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oh
if you happen to fall in a full silo, you are pretty much in trouble
you will sink and be crushed by the weight. the more you move, the more ypu sink, a lot like quicksand
maybe that’s how bird call spirit died
it is...
but there seemed to be stairs inside
true, which is why i think it was a breeding farm for creatures of light
but light creatures can go through walls...
time to play....
GAME MECH OR LORE 
they are literally born from the clouds
they are ?
yes
i never learnt that
where did that info come from ?
lore doc I think
i’ll have to reread lmao
weird q; but the fossil(?) in the hidden forrest, is it a krill or a whale
no problem
Don't you guys find kind of weird how the sky civilization was barely leaving their "stone age" and entering their bronze age and then suddenly collapsed?
it wasn’t, they had precious metal and technology (power diamonds)
heck yeha
I'm pretty sure the devs said that the power diamonds contributed to the fall of the civilization
some here believe the giant red diamond thing in Eden is a giant power diamond that exploded, causing everyone to die
we don't really know for sure, but I think the power diamond theory is pretty strongly supported
some here believe the giant red diamond thing in Eden is a giant power diamond that exploded, causing everyone to die
@cold steppe
I mean maybe?
The farthest you are from Eden the more nature and beauty there is. Everything in Eden or next to it it's death or wants you to be. It's kinda sounds like a nuclear bomb, it contaminates everything with the added nuclear winter there too, since theres a never ending storm in Eden.
hmm
What if sky kids themselves can't feel like... anything other than whether or not their flame is critically low?
And pressure bc they have to know when wind is making it harder to move
And pressure bc they have to know when wind is making it harder to move
@short owl
Sky kids do feel cold however. There's an emote about shivering. However, they are very resistant to both cold and got temperatures. So one has to wonder, if you can walk in a snowy lake without ever feeling cold, how cold is contaminated water for it to be actually hurtful?
If ur talking about pain, I believe you
I believe the only “pain” they feel is when their light is low or anything related to their flame being extinguished
Besides that, I don’t think they feel anything
Temperature doesn’t bother them, nor does hunger, thirst and they can fall off huge players
If ur talking about pain, I believe you
I believe the only “pain” they feel is when their light is low or anything related to their flame being extinguished
Besides that, I don’t think they feel anything
Temperature doesn’t bother them, nor does hunger, thirst and they can fall off huge players
@sly kestrel
There is pain, if you are going to fast and you crash you lose some light
Cold doesn’t bother em in my opinion
The emote is jus an emote learned from a spirit
It's an emote, but they may just he coppying someone rather than doing it naturally
U don’t have to quote and ping me I’m right here
yeah they literally dip in ice water
smackdab on the floor after flight and theyre fine too i think
And yes I do remember them hitting hard surfaces rlly hard can take their light
But it still doesn’t prove that they feel pain from it
Maybe skykids interpret losing their light to the respective feelings.
For example when they get krilled or bonk on walls they feel pain
Maybe skykids interpret losing their light to the respective feelings.
@kind bobcat
I think feelings don't matter when a high velocity red rock crashes on your face
And feel cold when they stay too long in wasteland water
I’ve been there for an hour, it doesn’t bother them
yeah, I've wondered if shiver emote is just them copying a spirit or do they actually get cold and shiver
And feel cold when they stay too long in wasteland water
@kind bobcat
Yes but that's because that's contaminated water. So contaminated water has to be hundreds of degrees below zero, somehow
i wouldn't be surprised if they were just emotionless, like if they just lost their light they'll be like "ö"
oily water is not cold though
for example
it's just very contaminated and deadly
(if it's like natural oil and not like olive oil)
it's just very contaminated and deadly
@cold steppe
No no hear me up
As i say, the skykids interpret losing their light to the corresponding feelings
It could be wrong
Ok point is, we have no way of knowing if they do feel pain bc of our perspective of what pain looks like
We say “ow” or “AHH” etc, and skykids cant make noises besides honk, who knows they could either be in deep pain in the inside
OR
They could simply not be affected at all, it simply effects their flame
I don’t think we can ever kno for sure
You get the emote because a spirit I'm the forest was shivering due to contaminated rain
Maybe black water isn’t cold at all? Going back to the nuclear meltdown theory, maybe the water’s just really contaminated, which is why you basically die in the final place in Eden, because it’s so toxic there it wears away you without your light as protection.
Black water was hinted not to be water at all, including the rain at forest
So it could simply be the substance
Ooh...
Maybe black water isn’t cold at all? Going back to the nuclear meltdown theory, maybe the water’s just really contaminated, which is why you basically die in the final place in Eden, because it’s so toxic there it wears away you without your light as protection.
@hushed steeple
So we need a protective suit?
Cold for sure doesn’t take our light
teth (forest mama) in a hazmat suit
Black water was hinted not to be water at all, including the rain at forest
@sly kestrel
But the sustance acts like water. It seems to follow the water cycle, since it rains. Or worse, something it's dropping it on the forest
megakrill pee
nO
Well the water is more like oil or tar, but we don’t kno for sure
a lot of really, really awful chemicals act like "water"/liquid
Soy sauce
coffeee
HEY THATS NOT AN AWFUL CHEMICAL, COFFEE IS 🔥
I haven't drank coffee in a while
caffeine is designed to be a poison
oop sorry i derailed it a bit-
we speculating on what the water is now :0
you know where this is going
It could be soy sauce
@kind bobcat
Barbecue sauce
There are two types of soy sauce.
🤛
Sweet and salty
we are technically off topic
there's light soy sauce and dark soy sauce
we speculating on what the water is now :0
@safe osprey
This is the lore Channel, the devs could make some rambling on a rock and we would discover it's an ancient mesopotamic civilization death language
And sweet soy sauce is viscous which could be wasteland water
source? am asian
res, your name is genius
THE WATER IS SOY SAUCE
whatever the substance is, i think the acid rain in forest came from the evaporation of the wasteland water
thank you wren 
@red grove ah noted with thanks
i still think the water is actually creature remains
it's kind of interesting that the snow or whatever substance that we slide on in Valley is harmless though
also the clouds are all regenerative
When ur in a factory, smoke comes out right? This leads to lots of air pollution
Well, both wasteland and forest are industrial areas with the diamond factories, maybe the acid rain and the water is all effects from the factories
ngl i used to think the snow thing in valley was salt
let's play game mechanics or lore
ooh, yeah, Jay summed up what I was thinking but could not express
@snow void i thought the snow was sand bro
let's play game mechanics or lore
@cold steppe
My favorite game
sand is better than saLT
tbh, salt would be interesting to consider as salt is actually rather destructive for living things
The technology the ancestors used could be different than ours 
there was a reason that invaders would seed the land with salt
it killed plant life and prevented new plants from growing
salt makes ice colder aka better slip and slides whoop whoop
salt melts ice too
when I lived in cold places, there were salt trucks to make the ice and snow melt faster
keep people safe
Well I learned something new today
here in canada, salt is used to make roads less slippery
ah, I stand corrected
technically salt prevents melted ice from refreezing
I just looked it up
it killed plant life and prevented new plants from growing
@cold steppe
Poor cartage
baffles me that some people don’t know about salting roads...
i dont
I AM BRICKY
Brick is vault vault
I thought that the king one was a well-established fact
sorry man some of us live on the equator 
So you think someone salted the GW to stop any live from living there again?
And then contaminated the sea?
But why?
As a warning so that skykids wouldn't go there?
I AM BRICKY
@lethal stump
Hello bricky, I'm blinky, you friendly neighborhood bad theorist plant
Why do spirits and elders have VISIBLE fingers while we don't?
And the nasty tar coming out of the pipes 🤢
Yes, the pipes could be some exhaust pipe for the factories
Oh and the SOUND EFFECTS TOO
“Djsbekkebnkdorhdkrj”-wasteland pipe
WHICH COMES BACK TO THE BUTTERFLY SLUDGE
though I do think it's either snow or white sand
@cold steppe
Yeah why does the snow looks like sand but white?
because we're not biologically related to spirits and elders
or pipes for waste
still, why can't we have fingers :(
The only source to the corrupted water is the pipes
@sly kestrel but how did the pipes reached the forest?
Why did they skipped valley?
Hage clarified and said that the devs only said that we aren't related to elders. nothing about spirits though
Pipes aren’t in forest
Valley is a high-up place
Why do spirits and elders have VISIBLE fingers while we don't?
@spice kernel
Time to play
Artist liberty or lore
Pipes are only in wasteland and eden
ohh, i get the spirits part because both skids and spirits have the blue spirit in them
artists find it hard to draw fingers man spare them @spice kernel
so, my thoughts were that Forest is the production of the raw power diamonds and Wasteland is the refinery, which might produce far more toxic waste than simple production
Maybe wasteland was also the place where Valley's sewage ends up in.
oh god, ancestor waste
Valley might be the salted one
@cold steppe
But there is life there. Also why do you hear screams and aplausses at the fire when there is no one there?
I meant plant life
Also
There is another reason to believe the pipes are sort of innocent
If they were meant to simply transport waste and sewage, why is there a pipe in eden that’s transporting fresh water...
Coolant.
I think some of the pipes are decorated. It might be interesting to see if there's a visible difference
Eden is a big power plant i tell you that
This leads me to believe that the pipes were originally for water transportation but SOMETHING messed it up
so, my thoughts were that Forest is the production of the raw power diamonds and Wasteland is the refinery, which might produce far more toxic waste than simple production
@cold steppe
So sky it's industrial/nuclear revolutions gone wrong?
Actually makes a lot of sense.
It even makes fresh water sound effects as well
@red grove kinda poetic in a way
So yea I believe something corrupted the clean water
Corrupted / Contaminated
maybe the gw/forest waste got mixed up with the fresh water pipe
some moron in wasteland decided to join the water supply to the waste disposal pipes
And this corrupted water corrupted the normal water
And this corrupted water corrupted even more water that later became corrupted and starting spreading corruption to make even more things corrupted
~someone pulled the wrong lever~
Omg so the krill and the crabs are the species that not only did survive the cataclysm but they adapted to it and atack you because without the contaminated water/biomas (Which for them our clean lands are contaminated) they will die?
Just like the elders did
We have no facts on why they attack
it looks like the krill and crabs are corrupted
" Hey did you get the pipeline layout for the King's factory project? "
" Don't know man, King didn't tell us honk. Can't get honk in wasteland. "
Brick, how could you
ythink the krill and crabs were normal creatures that got affected by the water and then they turned dark
Crabs are crabs
I AM BRICKY
There’s reason to belive crabs weren’t always corrupted
Krill, idk about that since we haven’t seen any proof that doubts that they are naturally dark creatures
The ark has some krill murals though.
some of them (crabs) are docile so like maybe the ones that got a high concentration of dark water are just particularly agro
Or the ark spirits made those before they all died of natural causes
The ones that aren’t hostile don’t have black flakes on them
The ones that do have the black flakes
We get black flakes at the most corrupted place from eden when we are dying and krill drop these flakes for a living
Now question is
WHAT ARE THEY
concentrated dark water that crystallised idk
Corruption Dandruff
pollen ?
WHAT ARE THEY
@sly kestrel
More importantly.
Do we need to know?
Should we know?
yea
I would love to know
Question is, who doesn’t wanna know 
what if the darkness is signs of them slowly decaying
the darkness plants make pollen
Also with the nuclear theory, the it makes senses that GW and Eden are a mess but the vault it's not.
It's a vault after all. A bunker, but not for people it seems. So weird, to save your knowledge before your people
the devs probably look at this chat and go 'ack they're overanalysing the game design again'
Well, we get flaky when we die too
for a sec i thought u meant people and i looked at my dandruff like « i am currently very flaky, am i dead ? »
Also with the nuclear theory, the it makes senses that GW and Eden are a mess but the vault it's not.
It's a vault after all. A bunker, but not for people it seems. So weird, to save your knowledge before your people
Knowledge is valued in the ancestor's civilization.
Also with the nuclear theory, the it makes senses that GW and Eden are a mess but the vault it's not.
It's a vault after all. A bunker, but not for people it seems. So weird, to save your knowledge before your people
@red grove maybe that knowledge was all stored up in there after the extinction to pass on to future generations
This is random, but I hope that this counts as lore because I love the idea of this
@red grove maybe they couldn't save the people so they saved their knowledge so at least someone would be able to remember them and piece together what happened
I don’t even know what I’m looking at
Knowledge is valued in the ancestor's civilization.
@kind bobcat
The ancestors values knowledge more than people then?
Funny, cause skykids seem to be the contrary. I don't think they can even read
Vault is likely to be like the Svalbard seed vault ( or however you spell it )
Read our messages qbox
skykid: whaddup im jared i’m nineteen
And vault uses memory lanterns
They dont need the people who use them to be able to read
just tall enough to light them
Read our messages qbox
@sly kestrel
I'm in two chats at the same time sorry if I missed you
Let me reread everything
i think vault was made because the scholars all knew they were going to die soon
Or a Plan B sort of thing
@red grove maybe that knowledge was all stored up in there after the extinction to pass on to future generations
@sly kestrel
Wait, who did that?
If they were extint
Vault also acts as an elevator to eden though.
for the knowledge
oo yeah true
are we thinking of a sudden explosion or a gradual destruction?
that could make a difference in the theory
Given what we are, it's not improbable that we were in the works before the boom
I believe the initial explosion caused the storm around eden.
I think they made it because they wanted to
@cold steppe
Headcanon. Vault it's just some guys saying
"Let's make a super gigantic building Babel tower like building
-to save knowledge?
-uh? Yeah sure"
King-approved 
well, that could be one part of the theory of the destruction
are we thinking of a sudden explosion or a gradual destruction?
@cold steppe
Wait weren't we talkimg about the nuclear bomb like theory?
For what purpose is hard to say, but maybe we were supposed to be better vessels for the elders?
yeah
what's a headcanon
For what purpose is hard to say, but maybe we were supposed to be better vessels for the elders?
@short owl
It seems. They trust us to save their world
did it explode and wipe everyone out, or did it explode and poison everyone-type destruction
Just to clarify so i won't be wrong.
personal canon idea
Something that can more easily just be, and maybe isn't supposed to run out of light
what's a headcanon
@kind bobcat
Like, canon it's the actual history of something. Head canon it's what you think happened in that story
i'm throwing in the fart of the eden diamond theory, i was thinking that the scholars knew about the production of the gigantic eden diamond and they had a bad feeling about it, since powerdiamonds were usually small-ish in size
but it's possible vault could have been a public library of sorts as well
but i think that maybe instead of trying to save themselves they just accepted their demise and did what they can to save the rest of their history
what you decide is canon
I personally think it exploded and caused the storm + killed everyone
And the civilization just started falling apart on it's own
did it explode and wipe everyone out, or did it explode and poison everyone-type destruction
@cold steppe
Or both?
Maybe it's not so much a nuclear bomb but a Chernobyl like incident.
Considering the Cristals give energy and that
Power plant theory 
i think the deaths were gradual. The storm killed light creatures, water supplies were already poisoned, people ran out of food and water to keep themselves alive and add fighting over resources led to their demise
cries in lack of lore
Plot twist: sky it's just a very far stalker sequel
i think the deaths were gradual. The storm killed light creatures, water supplies were already poisoned, people ran out of food and water to keep themselves alive and add fighting over resources led to their demise
@lethal stump
Have you seen how spirits are doing something and then suddenly the memories stop?
Like only their essence remained there?
It kinda reminds me of the shadows people left in Hiroshima. Like you see what was the last thing they were doing before their death.
A nuclear bomb makes senses in that case
although to be fair tragedies like pompeii do something similar
thing is, we don't know if the spirits' memories are what they see before they die, it could just be a key memory in their lifetime
Yeah i think it's more of a pompeii than a hiroshima kind of thing.
i don’t think the eden diamond had the power of a nuclear bomb. if it did, everything up to valley would be razed to the ground and valley would be as contaminated as wasteland
Some of these memories very much seem like a "thing they did in their life time" that don't really fit with the idea of what they did when they died.
although to be fair tragedies like pompeii do something similar
@hollow orbit
Oh yeah
Eden was a powerplant, king go bonk and crystal go boom
People in blast range gets evaporated
I think it's similar to the "temples aren't really temples, just places that are special to elders", so the spirit memories are just favorite or most important memories
im not actually going to bed it was a joke
The scout spirit in wasteland
Climbs up the ruins
If wasteland was destroyed because of the blast, some of the ancestors survived
if they are favorite or important memories imagine your most important memory falling asleep at the job
faint spirit actually died of darkness poisoning
so many of their favourite memories seem to be basic things at work. did these people have social lives outside of it ?
i mean considering some theories they might not have
no-lifes
well, the one memory was putting up the bells
that may have been important to them as it seems to summon creatures
I mean probably, but most of the work we see seems to have been fulfilling work
A purpose
ah yes, a key memory in my life was working all day to the point where i fell asleep at work
They would have had a very different lifestyle
damn if only i could be a boat maker and be as happy as those spirits
wave spirit has some real serotonin
there's no better love story than the shy spirit's one 
He may just have worked himself tired on a really big project and thought the bed felt really really good that day.
there's no better love story than the shy spirit's one
@gray bridge Timid
as in the one in forest
heck ooops
i keep thinking about like,,the meditation spirit in vault
anyway uhh i still think they had social lives, but maybe we just couldn't see em
meditation spirit?
floating
Meditating Monastic
like that must of been an important meditation session
Yeah
Spirits had lives
And vacations..
And jobs
damn i just got out-lived by a videogame character that's already dead
Something that could also be a thing though - the people they had social lives with may not be around to call them to the world anymore.
If you have a really important memory that's shared with someone who's past, you would likely be called to the next world rather than heald on to this one
with the exception of cry apparently
daaamm
The only reason everyone knows crying spirit so well is because you have to relive him/her once a week for a candle
i know them because when i first got them i was watching a tutorial and the person was so upset
also their story is dark ngl
3 people die
In a cave
and then they died most likely
And then cry when they all died
From a mining accident
Before they died
and then they didn't have anyone to make their grave
Yooo you're making me sad
im sorry sad headcanons are my forte
it just happens
but on a lighter note
what sport do yall think the cheering spirit and their friends were watching
oh go ahead
sad first?
I was going to ask if you think there would be bodies
yeah probably
there's what we think are gravestones, but do you think there's a physical body
theyre super old memories so the bodies have decayed /been buried but yes
HAPPY TIME
in the elder cutscene, we see the twins with what looks like paddles and they play ball with it
possibly a ball game?
lacrosse but less cultural appropriation
looks like baseball but without gloves
that works too
ngl reminds me of field hockey
however in their mural it looks like hockey
oh true
ngl, I forgot field hockey was a sport
field hockey but in the air

the constellation reminds me of hockey too
mix of field hockey and lacrosse maybe
where would they play though
the colloseum ? that place is tiny
many many more balls going into the stands
you can’t eat at valley games for fear you’ll get a ball or paddle in your plate
That might not be too bad, think of base ball
(crab roast)
what sport do yall think the cheering spirit and their friends were watching
@hollow orbit races
and made their graves
@kind bobcat WHAT
but amaraylily has a point
the thing about watching races though is that you don't usually want to just watch the end
you want to see more of it
maybe they used the hologram tech to see all of it ?
hmmm, that could be interesting
Idk if the path we take was originally supposed to be a race track
would account for the smaller stadium too
it seems like it's through houses, at least for the sliding race
though the flying race has buildings, but they're more deteriorated
it seems the flying race was home to higher class buildings before something destroyed them
the thing about watching races though is that you don't usually want to just watch the end
@cold steppe
I mean we have races in my country and people sit all over the road. You see the cars like once every few minutes
yeah
Maybe people just watched out of their houses then
they don't all sit at the end in a giant stadium
I think the flying race isn't supposed to be a trip a track. We're just using it as one
Also what's the building style of Sky?
Like to what culture does the buildings seem to belong?
An Asian friend told me they looked like something from South Asia
I wish we knew if some of the concept art is still canon or not
There's a lot of different cultures that looks like they have influence on the architecture of sky
I was reading something and it said that some of the architecture was inspired by "the cultures of Bhutan, Tibet, Ecuador, and other mountainous regions"
Buddhism, Hinduism
it was from the Apple App Store
I visited Borobudur a few years ago
And it looked almost exactly like the prairie temple
oh yeah, it really does
“And so, as we create visuals, I wanted to have something that nobody had seen, but yet still feels familiar. And so the majority of the architecture from Journey had Middle Eastern influences. Because that still felt exotic. For Sky most of the architecture we took was from Burma, Bhutan and Tibet, which is exotic to Chinese and Japanese people.” He notes that it engenders a sense of high spaces, of altitude. “We want to bring something fresh in terms of aesthetics. The game is also fresh in terms of technology, we render our clouds in a way nobody else does.”
re "architecture influences"
it's probably to contrast with the visual theme, since wasteland and vault were a lot more technologically advanced
Wasteland and Vault are much blockier
wasteland in particular is pretty industrialised
Could be that wasteland and vault are newer
or more updated
But wasteland and vault doesnt have any of those though
@kind bobcat
Well boats and towers are something every cultures does.
But it doesnt actually look like the structures we usually see in Sky
Yes the clouds are amazing. They look like big cotton balls
there's also the fact that most of the "cultural buildings" in golden wasteland are kinda half crumbling 
so most of the stuff we can make out are just the pipes
the temple on front
it's probably to contrast with the visual theme, since wasteland and vault were a lot more technologically advanced
@orchid crypt
I mean wasteland was technology advanced
actually wait, come to think of it...i think we already lost some of the tibetian thematics by the time we got to valley of triumph -- that one felt a lot more roman to me
« what culture do you want to use as inspiration ? »
TGC: yes
there's a lot less decoration in Wasteland, though that could also be from the wear and tear on the buildings
I think wasteland was built for more practical purposes
« what culture do you want to use as inspiration ? »
TGC: yes
@lethal stump to be fair it could apply to the fact their audience is largely from asia and north america from what ive seen
we did have ceremonial statues just before the first krill, those felt kinda similar to what we saw in valley
true
I kind of doubt that TGC was making a game specifically for a target audience, if that makes sense
TGC/Jenova Chen seems to be the kind of people that do what they want and enjoy
Soy sauce.
I am still sad that we never really got all the closure we were hoping for at the end of Enchantment
most of the lore we got was from the very beginning, with the new area and then the red light itself
we didn't really learn much past that, tbh
I mean we live for one day so... Food isn't all that needed
Really for 1 day?
we are literally moths
🧱y
don’t shame me, this is the nickname reika gave me and i shall cherish it 
Btw just woke up
What did I missed?
What does hidden forest represent in life?
teenage
teenage years !
Thanks 
teen angst
The transition from the innocence of childhood, to becoming older
yep, it's like being exposed to the cruelty of the world
also the level is a bit foggy with the rain and all so i like to think that it's where everything is uncertain and you're still struggling to understand yourself and your surroundings
forest is a mood
but since forest has LOTS of candles n money plants
teenage years make you rich
I think of rainforest as a struggle,
Rain is depression/anxiety/world weighing down on you and killing you slowly as you struggle through school and stuff, abd having an umbrella is like a free pass through life, or maybe a friend who helped you get through those tough times as a teen
yes, the rain can represent the problems that bring you down
but what's good is that there are shelters and light that you can rest, so you're not always being pelted by rain
hey free candles
ikr
hi just walking in because i keep seeig lore channel memes, but forest representing depression or anxiety is actually really fitting with the fact Forest represents being a teenager or something (since each realm represents a stage in life)
i’ll edit this if i feel like i worded something wrong ok bye
and maybe makes you defensive? the forest elder did snatch your light outta your hands
A
I also thought that
well i said it first so hAh
sky lore solved
yes
time to go home 
nOOOO
Aviary
i can't believe skybot just went and solved all our lore questions like that
truly the king

All hail skybrah
also seeing people in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived wanting more blue and darker colours just
- sweats in darkstone *

what's darkstone :0
power diamonds
so why are blue/darker colours bad :0
i’m confused what’s darkstone
crash course time
Then I want to be dangerous 😈
do we have to spoiler tag eden stuff in here?
nope !
these infographics are so cool oml
What is oml?
oh my lord
Oh haha

I want to be blue so badly
in the concept art, darkstone was mined from forest and used to create advancements technology
currently we have power diamonds/darkstone which were probably produced in forest and also wasteland, so it's a similar concept to the darkstone in the tomcepts
correct me if i'm wrong lol
also about the blue thing, i think it's used to represent death (but not all the time) in circumstances like
spirits
they're blue when you first see em
Let me be blue!!!! Haha
When you die you can see your blue soul
I do understand the concept and story behind the warmer tones. But there are blue items.
Some from past seasons.
I want more future seasons to have blue items.
wait then-
wait what
ohh
i understand oops sorry i misunderstood your comment ahha
I've seen players with blue capes with fur
stares at navy cape
some people really just want the aesthetics
Don't spam emojis please
Ok
Sorry
The current jumpsuit is Al white with yellow trimming. I would love it to be blue trimming. The white is fine.
As for the lore. I would love matpat to delve into the world of Sky.
I have no idea if he has heard of the game. But I would love to see a game theory about this awesome game.
i’d definitely make myself watch matpat way more if he started the lore of sky
u
i forgot what i was gonna say nor do i know how to say who matpat is
The tone of the environment and some items represent the emotion that was supposed to be implemented. Bright orange and strong colors ranging to the dark feel of blue and black
But that doesn’t necessarily mean every single color represents that certain meaning. For example, jus bc the navy blue cape is blue, doesn’t mean it’s evil
Matpat is a brilliant YouTube theorist. He has game theory, film theory and now food theory.
Sorry I’m late to the convo
food? 👀
ahhh thank you for the clarification
i repeat, he defaced hollow knight.
oh so you’re that kind of person

back to sky lore 
me sitting here knowing i have hollow knight
...let’s try not to get off topic talking about theorists on YouTube
back to topic! what is up with krill nest bros
krill nest?
Krill nest?
is it the blue eggs?
the area with a bunch of krills
Graveyard
That’s not a nest
the graveyard?
that's graveyard
ik i just call it krill nest bc there's a lot of em
And the dead bodies aren’t krill
it has so many bones. its not a good place, but the music sounds regal
its violin after all
i feel like graveyard’s named of course graveyard just because theres dead whale bones everywhere
I can’t even enjoy the music because of all the moffs loud honking
ohhh so that's what the bones are
wat ppl would honk??
ooo hage had a theory that the big bones were used to power the eden diamond
And there may be SOME whale bones but not all
Play on airplane mode
The skulls are completely different
iirc the skulls were based on turtles??
Are the bones giant ancestors?
Ancestor creatures perhaps
these bones are whales? idk if theyre close to the one in forest
Reika said they are based off of whale and turtle bones
We don’t kno the exact creature
Ah I see
It's more like turtle skull
And we don’t even kno if it’s a creature in real life
whales exist tho
It could simply be a creature that makes sense only in sky
But anyways, they aren’t whales
I wonder why the crabs are so aggressive
i think krills ate the whales
I'm thinking the sludge killed them
Kind of like when mammoths would die in tar pits
Since it kills us too if we stay too long
It could be possible that those are killed by ancestors to make diamonds
Well here’s one speculation
The “whale” is simply a fan name we all came up with, it’s not actually a whale 
It’s a creature based of off 2 different fish
Well the graveyard creatures are based on whales and sea turtles, so the same could apply to them
No exact name of their race
how did krills even come to patrol the area
ok in the end … krills are actually dragons
Maybe because they're attracted to death
Well, they all seem to be in key places and not jus random wandering creatures
I know that much
Their motive is still a mystery
oh i've only recently learned that there's a krill at the beginning of the ark area
Krills are in sky kingdom from beginning I think
and technically they dont kill you
why is it there
They can if u get krilled enough
Also we dunno, but the spirits recognized it and made a mural about him
Their existence lasted a long time bc some other spirit memories show the existence of krill
were they even friendly at some point
i would love a friendly krill
I don't think so
but the sneaky krill survivor showed he was evading one
Well, remember we don’t have the answers to everything
U supposed to make the answers to the story
Also yes, that’s what I was talking about earlier
krills look lowkey like doggies tho
The black cape
Ya just theory ...A GAME THEORY
Duck mask
😔
Ktjn where is the DUCK MASK STICKER
rhythm spirit mask 😔😔😔
actually
i was wondering about this for a while
was it some unspoken/established rule that the ancestors/elders/everyone who was in sky civilisation had to all wear a mask?
then again, for spirits like cry spirit and the bald whisperers, they don't seem to be wearing masks either
One true question I have is why do the elders wear masks of some spirits
it might be the other way around, jay
Nope, that’s what I thought at first but think about it
wdym by masks of some spirits o:
the headplates and helmets i think?
The masks are based on some key items that were made during the time of the civilization
The pots and the boats, even the diamond mask
If the elders originally had these masks from the beginning and some of the ancestors simply copied them, it wouldn’t make sense
Ahh it’s hard to explain hold up
maybe they didnt have those masks from the beginning, maybe they got them as society advanced
Aye, I think krill used to be good creatures and something bad happened like an endless darkness (or maybe the eden beam just suddenly stopped connecting the planet by some large celestial body getting on the way) , their lights burned out and they let the darkness take over
Actually, I think I jus answered my own question
Took me a while to think
Ur not alone rico, some of us think krills were once innocent as well
🤜🏻
Yee you see
i think krills used to be the mega mantas like you see in vault
I get this from the start message of them being "hungry for light"
i don’t think any of the animals are good or bad. calling krills evil and mantas good is like calling lions evil and zebras good just because one has to eat the other
There are lots of theories about the krill origins actually
They are the cosmic whales but corrupted
Man made creatures
Light creatures that got corrupted
Robots
Simply dark creatures that existed in the beginning
An adult phase of the crabs
Corrupted mantas
And some others that I can’t remember
I think the krills are some type of surveillance device/creatures
ah true, darkness isnt inherently bad as long as it doesnt bother the light, and vice versa hahah
ive seen theories for krill being rogue weapons/ai that were used during the wasteland wars
Perhaps not rogue but still fulfilling the purpose of an evil person 🤔
I also thought of toxic water in wasteland, you know how darkness drops from krill? Maybe those darkness drops polluted the water, since they have proably been there a long time
🤔
i made up some krill biology...i’ll draw a few diagrams and show u my headcanon
it’s not based on anything, i just think it’s cool
Oh yeah, there’s theories that they were born from the dark water as well
Like how mantas were said to be born from the clouds and light
🤔 🤔 🤔
Tho I do wonder if that’s the case
How do they suddenly have intelligence that only a person can teach them or influence them to do
imma sneep y’all úwù 
How can they fly
A manta from that was said to be “born from the clouds” suddenly knows to carry you to the temple when u land on them
And krill behavior as well
Good night🧱y
well i dont think theyre fully mechanical, the way they move seems more natural sometimes
They only guard certain places, they don’t hunt randomly
Maybe they're guards or something..
crazy krill cyborgs ahaha
But that sound they make sounds so mechanical
🤔
Like metal jaws unhinging
it does, even when they move..... 😬
I'm sure an advanced civilization could create metal creatures that move like that
Are we allowed to link to videos in the chat?
For example, when they krill a person, they immediately go back the the spot they were guarding
And here’s the spots the krill are at
A broken factory, the graveyard, the shipwreck, the entrance to the hidden island, some are heavily watching over Eden, and some come once u open the door to the temple
I see intelligence in them, bred or created for guarding purposes
They are more like natural creatures than mechanical for me
i think theyre dark creatures enhanced with technology that stopped obeying commands
in concept art, i think from 7 days of sky? i saw somewhere that says “[krills] symbolize difficulties and hardships / not evil”. mb these ideas are abandoned but i dont think krills are naturally evil. they dont kill you. they damage you which brings huge trouble. but the whole process is p menacing.
i dont think they are created to terminate any lives.
I have an idea and scientific idea about how winged light works and what sky kids are made of
What gave u the idea they stopped obeying commands guava
Think about how light works
Photons
Wing light is a light a compressed bunch of photons
Wait, gauva let’s hold off for our krill talk a bit
Rico has a theory to present
...actually ive never thought about that too much, but i didnt think they would just start killing every spirit in sight yknow. although them being used as weapons definitely means the krill were commanded to harm
yea sorry
go on rico
Each use, releases a, big glow or explosion as if a bunch of photos have been released
Photons
And the darker skin also this light energy to be absorbed (be cause light kids are brown) and stored in stars
And light kids might be a, huge "bag" of photons covered in a dark skin
that would make sense
just wondering, what do you think capes are made of?
i think light but im interested in hearing your take
But look, clouds are made of ice water unless the white reflect charges energy
Capes?
yeah a skykids winglike capes
Not exactly sure but I'd say it's just like a light storage, made from proably the sane skin but thinner (because u can see the light in it if it's not fully charged) also it releases a low amount of photons (because all light kids have a glow) and u know, blue light is a shorter wavelength so when you take off from the ground, a flash of blue happens because, of the release in light energy
~~crack theory: pale king reincarnated as skykid/the prince/king
goodnight~~
Uh ok
Also, did you notice that the shadows of the sky kids don’t include their capes? I thought that was because maybe they are made of light
Hello Lore chat 
After all, if you lose all your light your cape vanished
It's about modeling, if you look closely only the main sculpture is there
A rough skykid model is the shadow I suppose
What do you mean? (Also, I love your profile picture)
I noticed while walking around, our skykid's shadows are rough models of them
Does anyone have any pictures of the headdress with runes on it?
It could also be that rendering the cape's shadow would take up processing power, but it could totally be a canon convenience which doesn't make it any less interesting.

its a device limitation
its easier on the gpu to put down a general shadow than to raytrace the whole skykid
I got done with my wl and crs early so I've spent the day taking pictures of bones in the game. So... so many bones.
Also, quick question. Why does rain hurt, but not plunging in to water?
(unless it's the bad water ofc)
I pretty sure only some water is bad and it seems like all the water in the forest is bad so just the whole precipitation cycle is why the rain hurts just a thought tho
the sky kids are actually fine swimming around in forests' water -- it's the rain they don't like
Toxic rain
Cursed rain
Yeah, that's what I thought too. Water in sanctuary, home, and valley commune spots are perfectly fine (and being in the water in forest doesn't make you lose your light faster. Just timed it ;-; ouchy)
But the rain itself seems harmful.
It's interesting because if it was the cycle of precipitation that was harmful, all sources of water would make us loose light. From puddles, rain and clouds. But instead it's quite dynamic.
Standing water does nothing. (except slow you down ofc)
Rain makes you lose light
Clouds give you light
It's an interesting choice and kinda a headscratcher as to why the devs chose to do this.
What is Lore discussion? I'm new to this game....And Still figuring out things
lore discussion is where we talk and theorize about the story of the game
Thanks..!I'm from India and New to this game🙄I literally don't know what I have to do to proceed
Yeah, that's what I thought too. Water in sanctuary, home, and valley commune spots are perfectly fine (and being in the water in forest doesn't make you lose your light faster. Just timed it ;-; ouchy)
But the rain itself seems harmful.
It's interesting because if it was the cycle of precipitation that was harmful, all sources of water would make us loose light. From puddles, rain and clouds. But instead it's quite dynamic.
Standing water does nothing. (except slow you down ofc)
Rain makes you lose light
Clouds give you lightIt's an interesting choice and kinda a headscratcher as to why the devs chose to do this.
@winged gazelle same question I have... I wonder tho if it's because the sky there got polluted since it was a logging/mining/industrial area, making the rain kinda dirty, but not enough to dirty the streams and lakes... 🧐
@surreal helm I wonder the same thing, like if it's acid rain.
I actually have been looking at irl fauna, to see if the irl glowing mushrooms need acidic environments to grow.
But it's also very late where I am so the words on my wiki is slowly turning to gray blurs.
I mean, it could just be chalked up to a neat mechanic to play the game. After all, TGC is very Nintendo where "fun gameplay first, story second." (Fear the Zelda timeline)
But if we did that, theorizing wouldn't be interesting or fun. There's a lot of interesting details to scutinize in the game, but juggling between what could be lore, fun gameplay mechanics, and just the limited processing power, it's hard to scutinize those details.
They are only 5 elders on the gate of Eden and one is missing. Why?
@gilded timber isle was just a tutorial level in early beta so they've not added him on that
But now they should update it I think
Also note that no need to spoiler tag anything here
@hushed steeple ok thanks for explanation :)
The “whale” is simply a fan name we all came up with, it’s not actually a whale
@sly kestrel I thought the devs confirmed they were called whales at one point?
i made up some krill biology...i’ll draw a few diagrams and show u my headcanon
@lethal stump YES PLEASE SHOW SHOW
akshdgf i just got up, but i’ll work on drawing it now
no rush bricky
🧱y
look at the liddol krill wyrm...........
I could just
SQUeEZE iT
oAAA iTS So cUtE
Also there's king propaganda in prairie
become a dark creature and it’ll imprint on u
ooo
vault symbol ?
uwuwuw
aight
a,skshdgf
lmao
but still, we can add it to the list of king propaganda
bricky and goober should be lore moderator
Well, brick should
i don't
Since i've been in sky lore for like
A week
Anyways, vault's summit is a big ball
The isle mural is simplified
ooh
I vote myself for lore king 
y e s
o f c
After all the canon doc is your property

Nevermind, if someone was crowned king i bet the lore channel will have an Eden of it's own
crown yourself king like alef
n o
no loyalists here we will have a revolution
I -
y
you’re not wrong
The king mask makes you huge instead of small
prepare yourself for
KING MASK KING MASK
THE GIANT MAAK
KING MASK
TALL MASK
so the king mask is like a mega mushroom
Y e s
alef: puts on the mask
mario growing sound effect
i need to draw that
So where did the king mask come from?
It's not much different than the prince's mask though.
KING MASK KING MASK
adding to wishlist and idea
wha-
?
You weren't here when we thought Brick was the king huh
Oh
is tomcepts has website?
thanks goober
You're welcome.
lmao i cant stop seeing it
round eden
made-up krill biology
all the krill we see are in the « pup » stage, and they’ve likely already laid their clutches
krill pups
I'm gonna make a dark plant anatomy.
where can i buy it?
Since it's been in my head for a while
also the names for The King’s krill babies were made by @hollow orbit so credits to them
« Akhat, Shtayim, and Spot »
oh
dark water prob
dry environnements
So which one?
usually in caves or alcoves
the names were following the hebrew scheme, theyre the feminine numbers (aside from spot)
So no theory needed.
yup
Wait so they are...er...what's the word for they don't need the male cell fertilization?
So I’m glad you did
asexual reproduction
Oml
omh
biology
owowowowowo
Omk
all krills are best gorls
Sorry my King its supposedly OMK
so basically theres no single male krill?
not in my headcanon
atleast one
nope, unless a krill is infertile
welp,okay
all the best gorls
mind you this is my headcanon
you can have your own, i won’t stop you


oof
part of me wants to do one of those joke anatomy posts where it gives cute names to all the parts of the animal
@lean rapids instructions unclear, drew krill turd instead
both
Anything else to discuss?
so yknow krill oil exists here but imagine if it existed in the world of sky and had the same medicinal properties
..medicinal?
No Man's Sky
Is that a UFO in the Sky?
:O maybe worm hole
Could be, in the tomcepts Sky had more circular shaped structures
All I can say is that if Sky ever is a computer game
I reaaaaly hope they support linux
Sky rtx
Sky is nice and pretty and dark, that's like my favorite combo
imagine sky with rtx
oh ya the picture could be portal,to map i guess?
like home but more advance
A broken portal
yes
collect the pieces to bring back something
Yes!
what i think from the pic is that located in isle
Maybe a transportation device of some sort like a boat or a whale or a manta
Notice how there’s a second circle in the background
So maybe it’s like a bridge
Restore the first circle to move on to the second
And then restore the second to move on to the third
And so on
is this the wind thingy on prairie?
I believe so
:O 2 fish
s h a r e
it’s those pillars again........
where is that?
it’s an oob
ohh
Yeah😔
what area
above wasteland social space
disneyland do be hitting different in that pic 
oh really ?
Ye
i never knew
you can get there after temple
I'm interested about the design of eden shown in the pic
also someone posted the krill sounds in #promote-your-sky-content and it’s making me so confused as to if krill are natural or not
although when they hit it sounds like hitting stone which further backs up that skids are clay or something
is it just me or does it look like there’s people in that eden alpha card ?
In that pic,?
yea
I also noticed
really ? maybe i’m not going crazy after all
ooo i think i see em 
Should we talk about it... I'm little confused... It's in game pic ... But in oob

i think it counts 
everything counts in lore chat
I saw a dog there as well
that doesn’t look much like a doggo
Idk
this all just might be some rendering(?) errors because it's oob though
but i still feel like
i'm seeing things in that photo
hello everyone
hi bluespirit 
Let me just drop something here before I forget.
I think I know why the rain in forest harms us
Tell us
:O the beginning of pollution
OOOOO:
i think you're right actually
the acid rain could have come from wasteland too
or be caused by their on factory
areas surrounding factories tend to be affected by it
it makes sense now 
So does it means those trees have no leafs for the acid rain
I think they are cloud trees

Maybe leaves are above the clouds?
but the white trunk is caused by the acid rain
Skykid and crab marriage
It's a lore?
I think its hard to make leaves in sky

And plants can be somehow smart?
@short owl deffine smart
Maybe I'm mistaken on what lore means ._.
since grass is in the sky i don't think it's that impossible that leaves could exist, but definitely much more difficult than on the ground
But i think leaves is useless tho in sky
how are they useless ? the tree needs energy somehow
i believe this tree species has clouds as leaves
Without leafs a white trunk trees can't be alive
due to the acid rain, they probably already aren't
Maybe









