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hollow orbit
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WH Y

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i like the tiny sis idea

sour grove
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I mean when u think abt it

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They're all dead

cold steppe
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if there's a third twin, they're not twins though

hollow orbit
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yes but like an accident TT

lean rapids
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the lil sis died cause the yeeted fire hit her

cold steppe
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devs said they're twins

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not triplets

sour grove
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Yea, their throne is split into two

tender dune
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Mhm

jovial nacelle
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Or, a former valley elder taking two of his babies that didn’t have eyes. Separated himself and offered his eyes to the babies and died. But his energy lives in the valley twins

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There

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Happy with the positivity

hollow orbit
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hm, that brings us back to the valley elders being astronomers

tender dune
hushed steeple
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What if they are 1 but 2?

jovial nacelle
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In the old concept the forest elder seduces sky kids to steal they light-

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sO

lean rapids
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lamed was actually the lil sis

tender dune
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In the old concept the forest elder seduces sky kids to steal they light-
@jovial nacelle wot

jovial nacelle
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If we had the old concept forest elder.

short owl
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Don't forget that the elders are currently trapped outside time and space. That can easily affect the time of day they're allowed to have.

jovial nacelle
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In sky

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Then

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boss fight

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Forest elder drains our light

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And again

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We

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d i e

hollow orbit
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alef: here is a child

teth: let me steal the child

alef: NO

jovial nacelle
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No, crabs

tender dune
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Tbh. Teth can steal all my light for all i carestickerShy

sour grove
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I always assumed the twins lost an eye each due to battle or sumtin XD

jovial nacelle
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and she go kaboom

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And purify stage

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holy music

sour grove
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Smacking each other with fireworks XD

lean rapids
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loreeee

jovial nacelle
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Ye

lean rapids
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al

hushed steeple
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Lole

tender dune
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BACK TO LORE

jovial nacelle
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Hm, which elder would win in a scold off, wasteland or forest-

hollow orbit
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i feel like the valley twins even if they are elders are the youngest of the elders

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forest

tender dune
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Forest

jovial nacelle
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Hhh

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Knew it

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Who would win in a wholesome off.

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In all of the elders

tender dune
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Vault?

hollow orbit
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prarie

jovial nacelle
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Plot twist: valley elders are the oldest

tender dune
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Or dora

sour grove
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Vault grandmama

jovial nacelle
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Actually, prairie would just vibe.

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Like-

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Ye

hushed steeple
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OreostickerOreo

jovial nacelle
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Plot twist: elders were trying to shun our species by hiding themselves in rocks. Or dieing

brittle gust
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Armillary was use in Paralympics

hollow orbit
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ok so if the valley elders are the youngest then that makes me wonder who is the youngest to oldest starting with them

tender dune
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Hmm

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hahahahaha

jovial nacelle
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hm,

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HM

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HMSDHDJDNHDDH

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Plot twist: isle has a fake beard and is the youngest

hollow orbit
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always loved the fan interpretation that forest raised the valley twins and is just so sick of their shenanigans

tender dune
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Im guessing that the valley elders maybe have one eye for cosmetic/design reasons BUT if we go into details maybe there is morepSquint

hushed steeple
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They have multiple eyes👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀

brittle gust
tender dune
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Anime spoiler? ||Like how Rem and Ram got one horn cuz they're twins||

jovial nacelle
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The worst experiences for a sky kid to experience from a elder
Getting hit by forest elder’s hammer
Getting whacked back and forth with the valley elder’s paddles
Wasteland elder uses you as a shield with you using home shield glitch
Having a long lecture with vault about stuff

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Actually

hollow orbit
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crazy theory with no backing whatsoever and contradicts so much lore but it has angst: here let’s use one of my magic eyes to help krill hunt creatures of light

jovial nacelle
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Wasteland elder one actually makes sense

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Sky kids are just, invincible.

tender dune
jovial nacelle
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Like- the homeshield is perfect

tender dune
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Wow

sour grove
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Wow, nice catch

hollow orbit
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sam: hahaha you don’t have any depth perception

jovial nacelle
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Sending a video for extra lore

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It’s just loading

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HURRY UP

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FNDNNCNCNXBX

sour grove
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Also, has anyone ever tried to explain why at the entrance to flying race
The banners are red and blue
But in sliding race, the banners are both blue

hushed steeple
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You know what sushi at 1st I thought you've SkyElderValley2 on your name's either side

jovial nacelle
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@hushed steeple screms

hollow orbit
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no longer is ekh dora

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ekh is now sushi head

tender dune
jovial nacelle
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Finally

hollow orbit
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rice ball head

sour grove
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SkyElderValley2 = 🍙

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Yes
I know, thats why i chose it XD

hushed steeple
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"Forgotten hope and promise"

jovial nacelle
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Promise

hushed steeple
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Oh pEyes

hollow orbit
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makes me wonder if the sanctuary spirits died last because they were away and didn’t know what was going on

sour grove
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Can you imagine tho
If what we're seeing when we save the spirits are their memories
The sanctuary spirits' greatest memories are of their vacation

hushed steeple
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Wow I'm dumbstickerGloomy

jovial nacelle
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Sanctuary spirits died due to laziness

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Or

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Hm

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How did the belly rub guy die then

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exploding for eating too much crabs-

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💥

tender dune
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Sanctuary spirit (the guy u collect bells for) looks like he has many regrets;; dunno why

hollow orbit
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Can you imagine tho
If what we're seeing when we save the spirits are their memories
The sanctuary spirit's greatest memories are of their vacation
@sour grove wow the sanctuary spirits are very depressing now

jovial nacelle
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Sending more

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It’s loading longer

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sigh

sour grove
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I wish we got a bit more info as to how the world of sky....got this way
But for now we can only imagine

jovial nacelle
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so.

tender dune
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It's probably the memory from the bell guy since he's in all the sanctuary spirits memories

jovial nacelle
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sips tea out of nowhere.

hollow orbit
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The memories we see doesn't really mean that's the last times before they die
@hushed steeple although i’m pretty sure some forest and almost all the gw spirits are before they die

hushed steeple
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It could be possible that they died at another area maybe another realm even in eden

jovial nacelle
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Halfway

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C’mon..

tender dune
jovial nacelle
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chanting ode to joy

sour grove
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True
I'm pretty sure the GW area is set in a time after prairie/valley
What with refugees and all

jovial nacelle
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hm

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oh god

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got a disturbing image of spirits-

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yay

hollow orbit
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yknow those safehouse programs that are disguised as vacations to help people recover from trauma...

what if that’s what the sanctuary spirits are

thorn spade
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how did u do that sanctuary thing

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what does spirit guy want

tender dune
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I wonder if sanctuary came after diamond went kaboom (refugee) or if the spirirts were chilling there and never knew about kaboom

jovial nacelle
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Ack ima sneep now

hollow orbit
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yeah and like papa manta is all sad or solemn because like he knows

tender dune
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what does spirit guy want
@thorn spade he just wants u to find his bells

thorn spade
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I wonder if sanctuary came after diamond went kaboom or if the spirirts were chilling there and never knew about kaboom
@tender dune other spirits: save us therr are kabooms
spirits at sanctuary: there are WHAT

sour grove
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I like how those xtra special memories are just...
A new species

thorn spade
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@thorn spade he just wants u to find his bells
@tender dune ah okii

tender dune
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Ack ima sneep now
@jovial nacelle gnight

sour grove
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Sanctuary spirits could've been researchers pWow

hollow orbit
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papa manta: there is no war in ba sing se

glad geode
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So I assume that the cap is actual light? Since light doesn’t have a shadow, and our capes have no shadow

hollow orbit
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a little reserve for creatures so they don’t get turned into power diamonds?

sour grove
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Rest of spirit realm: dying
Manta papa: Ooh look a shell

tender dune
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Had fun but i g2g tooSkyCrabwalk

glad geode
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Uhm... Wrong timing for me hahahaha

tender dune
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xD

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Uhm... Wrong timing for me hahahaha
@glad geode there is no wrong timing. Just all lores

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Yeet us with lore

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do it

hollow orbit
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a lot of the sanctuary spirits seem to be not as relaxed as you’d expect for like people on vacation

pastel brookBOT
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don't forget sunscreen!

tender dune
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:0

hollow orbit
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thank you skybot

tender dune
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Skybrah i want crabs

hollow orbit
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aside from like the belly rub spirit

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he’s just vibing

sour grove
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Seeing jellyfish call spirit and manta suit kid kinda does make it look like they were there for something else

lethal stump
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they seem like siblings pSquint

short owl
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They seem too busy playing to relax

sour grove
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Like animal conservation or something

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Who knows

hollow orbit
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manta suit seems super young

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like a teenager

short owl
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His emote is epic tho

hollow orbit
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yes

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like with the timid spirit, grumpy spirit, and grateful spirit they seemed to like need encouragement from papa manta

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to like,,,relax

sour grove
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What if all the sanctuary spirits were of one family?

hollow orbit
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i mean the ages match up

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or maybe two families seeking refuge from something?

glad geode
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Manta suit seems to be into sports?

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Manta racing maybe? 🤔

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Although its cute, especially as a chibi. The suit looks like a uniform? Like the daredevil suit or for race car drivers

hushed steeple
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They killed mantas to get manta suite and manta capeSkyBoogie

lethal stump
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i think, if they’re all from different realms, Thrillseeker would be from valley
or they’re all from valley, if they’re an affluent family

glad geode
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@hushed steeple thats just....

hushed steeple
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Hail oreoSkyDeepBow

lethal stump
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hail oreo

hollow orbit
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just a rich family taking a vacation

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it reminds me of like a slice of life story and jelly is the protagonist

lethal stump
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i just...thought of something

hushed steeple
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"Rich"

What's the currency for spirits tho?

small perch
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I got lore questions

hollow orbit
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i mean our currency is light

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candles

small perch
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During the time on the ancestors, were skykids around?

hushed steeple
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No

hollow orbit
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nope, unless you count the prince who is kinda?? but a lot of people don't;;

hushed steeple
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i mean our currency is light
And what about for spirits👀

small perch
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So we were birthed Into this dead world to restore light

hollow orbit
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yup

small perch
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Prince? pEyes

hushed steeple
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Prenc

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Alef

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Hello- I’m here to ask : where did the shrimps / krill come from-

hollow orbit
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he's like a tiny skykid with a diamond/star face

lethal stump
hushed steeple
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From jenova Chan's nightmare

lethal stump
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really ?

hushed steeple
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MaybepThink

small perch
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WOAH

lethal stump
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the prince was inspired by a nightmare ?

hushed steeple
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What 😮

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Anything is possible

hollow orbit
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the king is still canon but i hear differing things about the prince

small perch
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Is the king just a tiny dude on a big throne LUL

hollow orbit
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nope that's his body uwu

hushed steeple
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That's what we also think👀

lethal stump
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prince may or may not be canon
king is definitely canon

hushed steeple
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The king body is a mech

barren bloom
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@lethal stump that's sauron

small perch
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pPogKid mech

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So canonically every living being that was before the skykids is dead?

hollow orbit
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yup uwu

hushed steeple
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It could be also possible that's the king's body as well

barren bloom
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So canonically every living being that was before the skykids is dead?
@small perch even trees

hushed steeple
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Not creatures tho

small perch
hushed steeple
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Or wait are those?

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👀

sour grove
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I guess light creatures dont count as "being alive"? Since they're not made of flesh

hollow orbit
barren bloom
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Imagine fighting the king 💀

hushed steeple
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I guess light creatures dont count as "being alive"? Since they're not made of flesh
Hmm. .. Maybe👀

small perch
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I wish there were more lore

hollow orbit
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there is its just impossible to find pEyes

small perch
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Like by the end of the game, it doesn’t feel like you accomplished anything lore wise

sour grove
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The whale i feel is totally alive tho
It does dmg to us

hushed steeple
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Whale has natural body

analog temple
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Wh

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How do you see the king where he at?

small perch
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The amount of the times the whale has hurt me lmaoo

hushed steeple
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We can't see him

analog temple
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Sad

hollow orbit
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ye, there are statues and murals depicting him tho

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so he is canon

hushed steeple
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Or maybe we can👀
A theory says skykids are the king thopEyes

barren bloom
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What statues?

analog temple
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Ugh eden is already hard enough but thats be cool

hushed steeple
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Wasteland statues I guess

small perch
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I don’t feel like the king is dead imo

hollow orbit
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i like the theory that says he became the storm

analog temple
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What if he came with a new season

small perch
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I would say he’s still alive but corrupted and unable to die by the darkness

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What if he’s trapped inside the diamond

analog temple
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Yeah

hushed steeple
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We're the kingpWow

small perch
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Prince

analog temple
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Werevall scattered pieces of the king💕

small perch
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We gotta save dad pCry

lethal stump
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i hope someday we’ll see the prince/king in game

sour grove
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Me too

hushed steeple
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Till then take Oreo as the king?

hollow orbit
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im crying just imagining a little skykid crawling up to a corrupted and fallen king and just honking

sour grove
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He is the king in our hearts

heady sinew
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If the king does ever show up I think I will cry doe

hollow orbit
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just a sad little honk like "hello me/dad/grandpa"

heady sinew
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"I made it, I can save you" while halfway gone to orbit already

hushed steeple
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King might be you.... King might be me... king might be all of us

gray bridge
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sad boi hours

analog temple
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I'm gonna look up the complete unabridged lore of this game cuz I have a absolutely no idea what's going on

sour grove
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God if we do get to relive the spirit of the king
Imagine doing those seasonal spirit drag quests in rock rain

lethal stump
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i am you, you are me

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there is no unabridged lore, there’s no lore

heady sinew
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I'm gonna look up the complete unabridged lore of this game cuz I have a absolutely no idea what's going on
@analog temple there's a document pinned here with a compilation

analog temple
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Oh noice

hollow orbit
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just concept art and popular theories

heady sinew
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It can help getting you started

analog temple
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I'm just so lost and I need answers lol

heady sinew
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Keep in mind most of the stuff there is speculation

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But it makes sense lol

hushed steeple
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I'm loving the pfp isuharu

gray bridge
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if you have questions we can answer with theories and the very rare canon crumb

hollow orbit
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i just imagined

skykid: sad tiny honk

king: GIANT SAD HONK

heady sinew
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Manta call but make it ✨big

hushed steeple
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Krill call

hollow orbit
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there is no storm, just the king spamming honk

hushed steeple
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Uh can I uh share something I noticed here...? Might spark some conversation

small perch
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So loud it bust my speakers like how dying in Eden does sometimes

hushed steeple
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There's a krill in my souppFIRE

hollow orbit
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yum, shrimp :))

hushed steeple
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Yes it's actually a delicacy

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Should try it

hollow orbit
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but yes tell us

lethal stump
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theresasnakeinmyboot

hushed steeple
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Anyway not sure if this has been seen before

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But

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I know that shape is a motif in the game but they are almost identical

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That's the king statue?

lethal stump
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that’s not a boat, that’s the king pFIRE

hushed steeple
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That is the mast at the front of the boat (':

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That's the king

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Anyway

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I was wrong but i just wanted to share

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My apologies SkyRespect

heady sinew
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King protecc boat

hollow orbit
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you're all good! diamonds are a popular motif in the game

heady sinew
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From what tho, Krills?

hushed steeple
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Tho it shows forest mama wearing a king mask👀

hollow orbit
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forest mama was a king fangirl

heady sinew
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Forest aunt might be onto something pEyes pEyes

hollow orbit
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teth: senpai

alef: uncomfortable

sour grove
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That's solid XD
I agree that the forest people were smiths of a sort, most of the spirits are involved with mining
And we know that forest was intended to show the "price of modernisation/tech advancement" through the anniversary tweets

heady sinew
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Also, since forest is the place where the physical/rocks/structure for the power diamonds is created what if the connection here is that the King got corrupted bcz of losing all his light. No energy, no soul, just body

hushed steeple
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That is the mast at the front of the boat (':
@hushed steeple you can find more statues like that in wasteland

hollow orbit
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im guessing that since mines were probably heavily monitored the masks miners and blacksmiths wore were king propaganda in a way

hushed steeple
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Cursed king bodystickerCold

heady sinew
small perch
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LOL

heady sinew
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This meme is peak comedy

lethal stump
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thank you

heady sinew
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You're the creator? pEyes

hollow orbit
heady sinew
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If so thank you for blessing us with such a good meme

lethal stump
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ehe i am a propagandist afterall

hushed steeple
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🧱 is the king

heady sinew
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Anyways, they could have also wore the headpieces willingly

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Y'know how some people use merch of things they like

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So like "I support king!" propaganda

lethal stump
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someone brought up the statues in wasteland, and we chatted about them. someone called it « king propaganda » and so i made that meme

hollow orbit
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so what you're saying is

hushed steeple
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That headpiece also represents powered diamond as well thopEyes

hollow orbit
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everyone in the forest is a king fangirl?

gray bridge
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what did they even see in the king

sour grove
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Maybe since the miners/smiths made diamonds (right?)
They wore that as a sort of identity XD

hollow orbit
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not to be cursed but maybe by ancestor standards the king was hot and charismatic ???

lethal stump
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  • screams *
hollow orbit
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IM SORRY THEY ASKED

gray bridge
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how do i unsee a message-

hushed steeple
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Don't see

hollow orbit
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I'M SO SORRY

hushed steeple
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Close your eyes

lethal stump
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time to rebirth

hollow orbit
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WAIT GUYS

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WAIT

sour grove
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?

lethal stump
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w ha. t

desert sun
hollow orbit
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I DIDN'T MEAN IT I SWEAR I JUST AM ALWAYS CONFUSED AS TO WHAT THEY SEE IN STAR HEAD

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charismatic

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good with words

gray bridge
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i wonder that too

lethal stump
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i always thought that since he came from the stars they saw him as a god

hollow orbit
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because considering the theories he was not a good person

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oooooh

lethal stump
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less...awkward to think about

hollow orbit
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please forgive me for i have sinned

hollow pier
desert sun
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all the elders came from the stars tho

lethal stump
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i do not forgive you

hollow orbit
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cries

hushed steeple
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WwwwooOoooaahhhhhhhh

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Hage SkyClap

vague adder
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All hail Megabirb

gray bridge
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yoo hage

lethal stump
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p r e n c

hushed steeple
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Alef

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||me||

sly kestrel
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Did u mean to show that?

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^

lethal stump
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hah his head is in the ground

hushed steeple
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Jay your prenc buried in grass

sly kestrel
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Oooh the dude in the middle

hollow pier
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Now we know what the mural version of the Eden elder looks like; and it does not match the person in the intro

hushed steeple
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And don't you forgot something jay?

sly kestrel
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OHHHH U WERE SHOWING THE HEADDD

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Nice pic hage

lethal stump
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then who could it be in the intro pThink

hollow pier
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ALSO NOTEWORTHY THE EDEN ELDER IS HOLDING AN OOORRRBB

hushed steeple
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||Apple||

hollow pier
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like the king in the vault mural pFIRE

sly kestrel
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It’s identical to the old concept timeline and in the old concept timeline, thats the prince

lethal stump
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although it’s office...should we count it ?

hollow pier
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Since they’re the prince in the concept art I think this means prince crowning them self king is canon

gray bridge
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hold on the elder's head looks like the light in the intro pEyes

hollow orbit
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y e s

sly kestrel
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It does relate to this tho, the prince in the middle
Oh and how he’s holding and orb

hushed steeple
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Hey that's the symbol we see everywhere

hollow pier
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@gray bridge not quite, there’s a tall line coming from his head

gray bridge
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oh yeah true oops

lethal stump
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it’s the eden crown

gray bridge
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is the symbol for the constellations at home different as well?

sly kestrel
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It’s sort of both
The diamond prince head and the symbol from the intro and the....other places where we see it

lethal stump
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not quite the same

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they’re rlly close tho

sly kestrel
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Yeah the constellation table is different as well

hushed steeple
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👀

lethal stump
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im hesitant to use that thing in the water, it might just be an easter egg, since it’s behind the tgc cape wall

sly kestrel
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They explained before I think

lethal stump
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wdym ?

hollow pier
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Then there’s two questions to ask a dev when they’re in the chat next; is this canon and is « but darkness blinds, so I cast them away » canon

lethal stump
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if a dev comes on and you’re not here, can we cold @ you, Hage ?

hollow pier
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You can always cold @ me about questions or new lore

lethal stump
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okay !

cold steppe
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oh question, does the one thing near the island on the bottom look like a boat at all?

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I noticed it when I was there last time

lethal stump
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looks like a boat to me

cold steppe
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brick, why do you have Vault twice in your nickname

sly kestrel
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Ye it’s the prince on a boat

cold steppe
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ahhh

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nice

sly kestrel
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And I’m guessing he jus likes that nickname

lethal stump
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it’s vault vault !

sly kestrel
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Here’s what we got from reika but I think we’re still all unsatisfied

cold steppe
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"this is a picture of the final scene of the last stage ["Original Sin" in Japanese] in Eye of Eden"

lethal stump
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so is the prince in orbit ?

cold steppe
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interesting that it's "original sin"

hollow pier
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Though I think you’d be better asking yourself if I’m not online haha SkyLOL devs aren’t usually online long

lethal stump
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i have the questions queued up pEyes

sly kestrel
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And I still got confused about it
It’s identical to the megabird and the prince and their cycle of life, I don’t get how it could be the last stage of eden

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Pretty sure light awaits isn’t canon but when they sneak around, I’ll ask em

hollow pier
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Ah so it is canon; don’t need to ask that then

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Just whether darkness blinding is still canon

short owl
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Light Awaits may be interesting, but I don't think a lot gets to be cannon

lethal stump
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there’s parts of LA i hope are canon

cold steppe
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do they mean the ascent to orbit

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with the portal?

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as the last scene of Eden?

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it kind of looks like that in the picture, but it's hard to see

sly kestrel
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Idk, but
I think nagati put that picture in the notes

cold steppe
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ah

lethal stump
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like the elder bodies around the diamond...that’s so cool and i hope it connects to something

sly kestrel
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So either the pic is wrong or we are all interpreting it wrong

hollow pier
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That’s a good question, does it represent the ascent to orbit or rebirth? Or is it their lifecycle? Does it mean the prince is canon?

lethal stump
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yeah there’s so many things it could be

sly kestrel
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King is canon but the prince talk
That’s still questioned

cold steppe
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yeah

sly kestrel
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There are tons of prince concepts, there’s a million options to base on

cold steppe
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is it prince--> king in CotL
or prince vs king

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or something else

hollow pier
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Stuff to ask devs pEyes

cold steppe
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also, and I'm so sorry to be asking again, has it been established that king=eden elder or no

lethal stump
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raf saïd that one of the devs said the price was scrapped, but couldn’t find which one it was so hhhh

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i don’t think it’s canon, but most believe that’s the case wren

cold steppe
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pics or it didn't happen

sly kestrel
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2 main sides of the prince
One where it’s a different person, and one where it’s the king before he got crowned at valley

lethal stump
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imagine if we got a cutscene of the crowning pEyes pEyes pEyes pEyes pEyes

cold steppe
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I mean, the one mural has a figure with a crown

static spoke
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Yeah!

hollow pier
lethal stump
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i’d go rabid

cold steppe
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I would think that the crown indicates a king, not a prince, especially given the size

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it's also interesting that the old Eden constellation was a crown

lethal stump
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old eden constellation ?

cold steppe
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might technically not be current canon, but still interesting

sly kestrel
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The mural shows his humanoid figure as a head with a crown, but theres a lot indicating that his head is the diamond thing from the concepts

lethal stump
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are we talking about the water mural ?

hushed steeple
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I got some good pic of that should I post it?🙃

cold steppe
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also thought it was interesting that the favorite friends constellation (crown) was renamed The Light, which is Eden

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pics pics pics

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there's so much detail in the game

hushed steeple
sly kestrel
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Ooh

cold steppe
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oooooo

lethal stump
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damn that’s quite the crown

sly kestrel
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Hage im sorry but I think Alefio one uped you

cold steppe
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wait Jay, can you send the pic again?

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I think I see something

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could be imagining things

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also, does anyone have a pic of the old favorite friends constellation?

hollow pier
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Haha I’m okay with that

sly kestrel
hushed steeple
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Nope jay hage was my inspiration

hollow pier
hushed steeple
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That's my pfp tho

sly kestrel
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Technically that’s not even my pic
That’s the pic I stole from hage in the search bar

cold steppe
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prepare for absolutely terrible drawing skills

short owl
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Hey... Why does it look like their light is draining out their arm

sly kestrel
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Are u talking about the pentagon thingy and the hidden lines in the mural?

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I had a better pic but I accidentally deleted it

cold steppe
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did it on my computer, so I'll have to go over it again later

hushed steeple
cold steppe
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the lines are a little faint

hushed steeple
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What did I miss?

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Oreo is the king theory

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Ohhhh

hollow pier
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That’s canon alefio pFIRE

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I am oreo

hushed steeple
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Really👀

cold steppe
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there's some fainter lines that kind of go across the king's face and into the ball

hollow pier
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No oreo isn’t canon haha

hushed steeple
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I HAVE MISSED TOO MANY CRACK THEORIES!!

gray bridge
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how could we have not known before hhh

hushed steeple
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I am oreo
I wanna eat youpPineapplePizza

cold steppe
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he is in our hearts

hollow pier
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But what if pEyes

lethal stump
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lots of things are in our hearts, we don’t have much canon SkyLOL

hushed steeple
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Brick!! What happened to you pEyes

lethal stump
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runes stickerGloomy

hushed steeple
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Should I be afraid?

lethal stump
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always

hollow pier
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Never noticed that

cold steppe
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yeah that

hushed steeple
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I have my tinfoil hat on, will it keep me safe?

lethal stump
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yes

cold steppe
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I have terrible drawing skills

hushed steeple
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That's in mural tho
Watch the mural on 0.25x speed

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*cutscenes

lethal stump
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yeah that’s the constellation already—

hushed steeple
hollow pier
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Wasn’t that the old fav friends constellation ?

cold steppe
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yes

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I think

hollow pier
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(Since someone was asking)

cold steppe
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pretty sure I deleted my old pics

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I was asking

hushed steeple
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It's old or it's still that?

cold steppe
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lemme check youtube

hushed steeple
cold steppe
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it was extended in a relatively recent update

lethal stump
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pretty similar to today’s

cold steppe
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used to only have 17?? visible

lethal stump
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but us skiddos are too friendly and we needed more fav friends pFIRE

hushed steeple
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You can definitely have more now, that's for sure

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And, fav friends are the best

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I only have those who actually like me there

lethal stump
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i only have friends that give me light there

hushed steeple
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And those who send me hearts back

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Ahhh, great minds think alike

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The others are banished to the sides

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Nyeeeee

lethal stump
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mainly cause i’m a solo kid, i just. do things on my own

hushed steeple
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what the hell has become of this chat i was reading past messages

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Crack theories

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LMAO

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i saw one that said teth/ forest elder was a nine tail fox

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me: wh-

cold steppe
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oh yeah, old concept art

hushed steeple
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ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE

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The only way to make us stop is by giving us more lore

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Yeah

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thats tru

lethal stump
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imagine if the elders had the ability to turn into their old animal concepts pWow

hushed steeple
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TGC GIVE US LORE THESE THEORIES ARE MAKING MY BRAIN GO NYOOooOOm

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Animals

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what kind of animal will vault elder be

lethal stump
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i dont remember what she was

hushed steeple
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she might me

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be*

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a cosmic whale

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imagine if the elders had the ability to turn into their old animal concepts pWow
@lethal stump
I don't care as much about the elders, but what if WE get to be animals pEyes

cold steppe
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bull mask makes you an actual bull pFIRE

hushed steeple
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This gives me jojo vibes...

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the mask makes u into ZOMBIE

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Because of the stands?

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ok maybe im overlooking dis

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No not the stands the masks

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Ahhh

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Well, they aren't exactly zombies, more vampires

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ture

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ture

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true**

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they drain out blood

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With a very annoying sound they make

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Especially Dio

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I HATE DIO!!

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We went way off topic

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bUt this aint jojo this is SkyLogo

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But while I can I'm gonna still say it

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I HATE DIO

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O k

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is my fanmade season a good idea

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or a waste of time

lethal stump
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where did you put it ?

hushed steeple
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If u scroll up-

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actaully it got buried

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Uhhh

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Oh and while I'm at it, I HATE Kira even more

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its called Season of Honor...?

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um

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It would be best to just repost it

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i drew the quest master

lethal stump
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where ? in lore chat ?

hushed steeple
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Thats the quest master i drew

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with ultimate gifts

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uh

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enjoy.... i think

lethal stump
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ooo

hushed steeple
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That's pretty good

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thanks

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uh

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wishlist and ideas?

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And it would be a really good idea

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I think you put there things you want added to the game

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idk if tgc will see this season there are tons of fanmade seasons

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They probably will

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I drew one of the emotes

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lel

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Butterfly call

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But i edited the hair sketch

compact olive
hushed steeple
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Maybe

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i slready posted there

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Hi all. Does anyone recognize this language?
@compact olive someone translated

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Hi all. Does anyone recognize this language?
@compact olive
I'm insane don't mind me, I thought it was Arabic

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No

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Wait

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Or am I going insane

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I d e k

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I'm going insane aren't I

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I can't see it good

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ok im gonna ask about season of honor in wishlist

lethal stump
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it’s an english cipher

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lemme grab the translation

hushed steeple
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It isn't Arabic?

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Is that the language on the old bells?

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in sky?

lethal stump
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it’s not in game

hushed steeple
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Ah

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Looks like Egyptian hieroglyphs

compact olive
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It’s in concept art only

hushed steeple
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Brick did I posted the right pic?
Am little confused

lethal stump
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it’s correct

hushed steeple
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K

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I can't translate it, everything is connected

compact olive
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@hushed steeple what language is that image of translation in crayon?

lethal stump
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it’s not a language

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it’s a cipher

hushed steeple
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Well I was not in the convo when the maker posted it

sly kestrel
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I was actually talking about this pic earlier BUT NICE CATCH WREN

lethal stump
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woah what’s that ?

compact olive
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But once unciphered it in English ?

lethal stump
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yes it is english

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it’s just labels

hushed steeple
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It's like prairie dad running over rocks while spreading his leg

lethal stump
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« warrior »
« labourer »
etc

hushed steeple
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ballet prairie dad pFIRE

hollow pier
#

imagine if the elders had the ability to turn into their old animal concepts pWow
@lethal stump WASTELANDELDER YES

lethal stump
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spoider man pEyes pEyes

gray bridge
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imagine seeing spooderman elder in game oh gosh-

hushed steeple
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I have a theory to share!!

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It's about the king, but from the picture we have

lethal stump
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owo

hushed steeple
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This one

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We can see the ancestors praising him

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Looks more like worship

modern smelt
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It looks like he’s eating the light

glad forge
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So the king is god

hushed steeple
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What if he's a false god

lethal stump
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maybe they saw him as a god

hushed steeple
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And what if he stole light

glad forge
#

Yeah possible too

hushed steeple
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What if he's the reason the other Elders fell

lethal stump
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probably is pEyes

compact olive
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Is the Tomzhao concept art backstory not considered?

glad forge
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Hmmmm interesting pEyes

hushed steeple
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So they all knew each other and they all lived in orbit

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Which is where Megan is and where pure light was

lethal stump
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it’s considered, but it’s optional as it is concept art

hushed steeple
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They didn't listen meant they didn't heed the warnings that the king was becoming corrupted

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And in his quest for power he stole the light, and by doing that he brought darkness

compact olive
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@hushed steeple is the tomzhao concept art not a part of this theory?

hushed steeple
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@hushed steeple is the tomzhao concept art not a part of this theory?
@compact olive
Not it isn't, it is my own original theory

hollow pier
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I don’t think that the king caused the others to fall, the intro makes it seem that the other elders fell from the megabird and the Eden elder was born from the clouds afterwards

hushed steeple
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We don't know that

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All we know is that darkness came and the stars fell

compact olive
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@Serapis🔻#8192 But all of the concept art and the in game spirit stories + location sites generally point to the same thing, no?

hushed steeple
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The stars are the elders

hollow pier
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But maybe the intro isn’t chronological and the king was born from the clouds and lured the elders down

lethal stump
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we don’t know anything, it’s Hage’s theory

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This game has been in development a while, there were a couple different stories before the current one

hushed steeple
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My guess is that the king stole the light, which is why he is worshipped

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For bringing it

lethal stump
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same, Smoll

hushed steeple
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But in doing so he caused darkness to descent to the lands

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Which caused the elders to fall

hollow pier
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@hushed steeple if you watch the intro closely it shows the Eden elder falling from the clouds not orbit, but as I said that doesn’t mean they couldn’t have caused the other elders to fall, entirely possible

compact olive
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@compact olive
Not it isn't, it is my own original theory
@hushed steeple where did you come up with/decide on “the king” title For this theory?

hushed steeple
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In my own theory I at the very least think the king is a ancestors and not a elder at all

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He may be represented as big, BUT ancient Egyptians also drew their Pharaoh's bigger than all the others

lethal stump
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The King is canon, that’s the name the devs gave him

hollow pier
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There’s two canon events of darkness that happen: something causes the elders to fall “darkness came”, then they build a civilisation and later something happens in eden related to Darkstone/power diamonds and the storm happens

compact olive
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@lethal stump was this in a live stream? (The title of “king”)

lethal stump
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concept arts and dev confirmation in chat

compact olive
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@lethal stump I’ve been poring over the pins and can’t find the “chat” part you are referring to. Could you clarify?

hushed steeple
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There’s two canon events of darkness that happen: something causes the elders to fall “darkness came”, then they build a civilisation and later something happens in eden related to Darkstone/power diamonds and the storm happens
@hollow pier
My two theories are that either the eye was corrupted by all of the elders light being stolen and it was overloaded or it was slowly corrupted which led to it becoming fragmented

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But the end result is and always will be the storm

lethal stump
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@lethal stump I’ve been poring over the pins and can’t find the “chat” part you are referring to. Could you clarify?
@compact olive this server, this channel. I don’t know if it’s in the pins or not, I don’t have a screenshot either

hushed steeple
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Which caused the apocalypse

hollow pier
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@compact olive in my pinned google doc down the bottom are some quotes from devs in this channel that confirm the king

hushed steeple
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But, it would make sense that the king lured the elders

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If he did, he probably earned their trust first and naively they thought him how to use and harness the light

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And then he stole it from them

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What if the voice in the beginning is Megan

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And those who didn't listen are the elders, who didn't want to believe the king was decieving them

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I think I have finally completed my theory

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Thank you @hollow pier

compact olive
#

I feel The king has to be an elder or at least some type of higher life form other than the normal people. He lived through both the sunset and dusk eras of time. Doesn’t that denote immortality(age only) or perhaps each descendant has represented the same king in statue and monument?

hushed steeple
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I am still going to die on my tiny hill tho, the elders used the last of their powers and plunged themselves into eternal solitude to save pieces of their land from the apocalypse along with the followers who didn't turn against them

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I feel The king has to be an elder or at least some type of higher life form other than the normal people. He lived through both the sunset and dusk eras of time. Doesn’t that denote immortality(age only) or perhaps each descendant has represented the same king in statue and monument?
@compact olive
We don't have much to go on, but anything is possible, he could be a elder, he could be a ancestor or even a completely different being all together

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We have very little lore to go off of, which gives us the free range to make up any theory we can

lethal stump
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imo he was the first elder created cause his story for me is a lot like lucifer’s

hushed steeple
#

It would make sense

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But at the same time

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Only 6 elders are mentioned

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They all sinned

compact olive
#

Maybe he’s not mentioned because he’s higher than an elder? He originated on the planet?

hushed steeple
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So it doesn't make sense not to mention him

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We can only speculate on what he is, but he could be

compact olive
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In the beta his Stone was broken next to the other 6 elder stones

hushed steeple
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He could have even been born out of the darkness

lethal stump
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what stone ? like the grave things ?

hushed steeple
#

I haven't seen that

lethal stump
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me neither

compact olive
#

I’ll find screenshot brb

hushed steeple
#

In any case, he could very well be the reason for the other Elders fall

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And the reason they all lost their light

gleaming flicker
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In the intro cutscene, the child there is supposed to be the king. The 6 elders in the in star forms were in support of him-

hushed steeple
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Oh btw, @lethal stump remember how you talked about the elders bring trapped in prisons, I just realized something

lethal stump
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what ?

hushed steeple
#

Was it you or someone else

lethal stump
#

it was me, what did you realize ?

hushed steeple
#

Ohh

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Remember when we die we enter a sort of similar area

compact olive
hushed steeple
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The only difference is there is nothing in ours

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What if it isn't a prison where they are Brick!! What if because they lost their light, they are stuck in the same place we get stuck when we die

compact olive
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He was clearly an elder or higher little over a year ago

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And the devs said “he cannot be saved anymore” like the other 6

hushed steeple
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Hmm, idk, since his grave has nothing on it, that could mean something

lethal stump
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imo when we die that’s not our time loop prison, we’re able to escape. the elders can’t, even when we give them light
the whole thing, the realms, are our prison. they’re always the same time of day, the plants reset daily, etc
we cannot escape the realms in their frozen state much like how the elders cannot escape

hushed steeple
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At the very least it would mean he was corrupted

compact olive
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Exactly Smoll

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Which gives rise to the “Lucifer” theory by...brick?

lethal stump
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by Null and me, yes

hushed steeple
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imo when we die that’s not our time loop prison, we’re able to escape. the elders can’t, even when we give them light
the whole thing, the realms, are our prison. they’re always the same time of day, the plants reset daily, etc
we cannot escape the realms in their frozen state much like how the elders cannot escape
@lethal stump
I think that's just game mechanics, but when you give them light, the thing that shoots up into the sky, the large beam, I think that's them finally being free, we get the same thing when we fly up and away from it

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I'm a complete idiot for not realising it till now

lethal stump
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ah yes
« game mechanics or lore »

compact olive
#

My theory is that nothing can rejoin megabird without light.

hushed steeple
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If he was corrupted it would mean that he either tricked the other Elders or fell first

compact olive
#

Elders only get “saved” after you bring them light

hushed steeple
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Yep

lethal stump
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so, Smoll, is rebirth just a game mech then ? for you

hushed steeple
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Nope, I think the rebirth is supposed to be lore, we are reborn, but we aren't supposed to be reborn as a sky kid

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That's why everything turns white

lethal stump
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as what then ?

hushed steeple
#

Who knows

compact olive
#

I think the cut scenes are lore, and the game mechanics are a foggy version of lore. (Just my opinion)

lethal stump
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i like working game mechs into lore

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that’s how i got the time prison thing

hushed steeple
#

I'm purely basing my argument here on WoW lore

lethal stump
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whats wow ?

hushed steeple
#

Even after you kill a boss and see the final cutscene

compact olive
#

Can you brief me on “time prison” ?

hushed steeple
#

You can still redo the boss over and over

#

whats wow ?
@lethal stump
World of Warcraft

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WoW isn't the only online game that does this, but I'm using it as an example here

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Especially since you are able to resurrect yourself in the game, but so far we know of only ONE race that has actively been acknowledged about coming back from the dead

lethal stump
#

time prison theory !
so the devs have said that the elder cutscenes take place in an area that is outside of spacetime, but still affects reality. the way i see this, this is their punishment. a time-out box, if you will. additionally, since i believe that the sky kid (there’s only one in my canon) is a reincarnated prince/king, i think that the realms themselves have been frozen in time as a punishment for him as well.

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also using a fighting mmorpg’s mechanics in a convo about a game where you don’t fight and the aim of the game is to die kinda seems like a false equivalency there, Smoll

hushed steeple
#

But I'm not talking about the fighting

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And the lore is the same in that game as is in this one

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If the game ended after we die the first time, everyone would finish it quickly

#

The game itself it's big

compact olive
#

Maybe we should simplify and compartmentalize the game? For simplicity’s sake?

hushed steeple
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Which would mean not a lot of activity

lethal stump
#

im saying the game doesn’t end after we die, though. it’s a repeating loop. it never ends

compact olive
#

Here’s an example of what I mean....

hushed steeple
#

And I'm saying the rebirth part is the only part that is true, but not a never-ending cycle

#

We are reborn

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We just never see as what

#

And after the credits, we just get to restart everything as a new kid

#

Only it's our character

compact olive
#

There is clearly GameRules as intended. (GAI) you move a character, you press a flame button icon to use a candle to open a door...

hollow pier
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the elders can’t, even when we give them light
@lethal stump actually the elders do escape, they go straight to orbit where we can see them

lethal stump
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how does that not count as « what we’re reborn as »

hushed steeple
#

@lethal stump actually the elders do escape, they go straight to orbit where we can see them
@hollow pier
Exactly, we see them beam up, in the same type of light we get to escape from

compact olive
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Then there’s Personal Use rules.(PU) for example... using a chair icon to glitch through a door.

hushed steeple
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The issues is, we have so little lore we don't know what is what

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We need more

compact olive
#

Can we all agree that GAI (gamerules as intended) and PU (personalRule use) exist ?

hushed steeple
#

I agree

compact olive
#

Okay, so... the question then becomes...

#

Where does playing a second life (after rebirth) fall for you personally? Under GAI or under PU ?

hushed steeple
#

The cutscenes are definitely lore and follow the story

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GAI

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Based purely off of my experience with other games

lethal stump
#

neither GAI or PU seem to have anything to do with lore though, just game functionality

compact olive
#

And @lethal stump Brick ? Is playing the game a second, third and fourth time GAI or PU for you?

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Yes. But if we simplify we can then better gage where lore is for each of us.

lethal stump
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GAI i guess ?
I still certainly believe that it’s part of the lore, being reborn

hushed steeple
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I'm not denying that

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I'm just saying I don't think we are stuck in a loop

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The game just continues

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Like in some games where you have to take out a fire, and after a few seconds the fire starts again

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But you're told you saved the village or whatever

compact olive
#

Okay but here comes the tricky part we need to clarify... is the orbit scene lore?

lethal stump
#

yes, orbit counts as lore

hushed steeple
#

It is lore

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We are disagreeing on what happens after

compact olive
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So your friends who are not playing eden who you see their names flying towards megabird is GAI ?

hushed steeple
#

To clarify Brick, I believe we are reborn into anything living in the Sky universe after our rebirth

#

For all we know we are manta

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We just don't see it

lethal stump
#

but there’s nothing to show that
not even in concepts

#

why do you think that’s the case ?

compact olive
#

Does my question make sense?

hushed steeple
#

So your friends who are not playing eden who you see their names flying towards megabird is GAI ?
@compact olive
My guess is that those are some of the kids we save during Eden

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but there’s nothing to show that
not even in concepts
@lethal stump
Anything is possible, we could be reborn as kids again

lethal stump
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but what makes you think we can be reborn as not a skid ?

compact olive
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But then the game is designed to have your friends, who are dancing and playing piano in vault or wasteland, ......there... in Eden/orbit with you,

lethal stump
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and...?

hushed steeple
#

@compact olive
My guess is that those are some of the kids we save during Eden
@hushed steeple
To clarify, I think our friends we see have already fallen and when we free the other stone kids we save everyone

lethal stump
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like in beta where the statues had friends’ names, Smoll ?

compact olive
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Lmao😆 @sky kid = skid

hushed steeple
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Yeah

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Like that Brick

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Basically making it seem like we are saving everyone who is our friend or not

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We are in a way the saviour of us all

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but what makes you think we can be reborn as not a skid ?
@lethal stump
It is a mini theory based on nothing, which is probably wrong

lethal stump
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okay, that was what i was wondering about

hushed steeple
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But even if we are reborn as skids, the world around us is changed, and we get to reply the game over and over and over

compact olive
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But you believe that your friend who is playing piano in wasteland at the exact time you see their soul/light spirit flying in orbit is soul-less/lightless or that there are two of them? How do you explain that in your own interpretation?

hushed steeple
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For our personal use

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That's what I was trying to explain, I'm sorry I confused you

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But you believe that your friend who is playing piano in wasteland at the exact time you see their soul/light spirit flying in orbit is soul-less/lightless or that there are two of them? How do you explain that in your own interpretation?
@compact olive
But that doesn't matter, at that time we in the game are saving the other kids, so it doesn't matter where they are, it matters what we see

lethal stump
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in my interpretation, as someone who plays solo 99% of the time, sky is a solo adventure. no friends, just past rebirths.

compact olive
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So playing piano in wasteland is PU compared to the eye of Eden/orbit cutscene

lethal stump
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i really don’t understand these abstractions, Oz

compact olive
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Well it sounds complicated now, but it’s clarifying what you see as lore and what you just see as a game mechanic. What is personal canon for you and what is universal cannon

lethal stump
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i see friends as mechanics, solo as lore

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well, not lore per se, but headcanon

sly kestrel
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There is only one base of confirmed canon, and that’s the intro and the gameplay
But besides that, tgc wants us to make up our own story and use our imagination. Technically is there no written out canon story

compact olive
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I can respect that. I do have a question @lethal stump

lethal stump
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what ?

sly kestrel
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That’s what this chat is for
To discuss ur imagination of the game

compact olive
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How do you explain the double doors requiring two skids to open?

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Like in your interpretation

sly kestrel
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Ancestors may have opened them the way we do
Connect it with light as a key

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That’s my interpretation

lethal stump
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mechanics
in a « real world » application, they are able to be opened by one person. but that’s my headcanon

sly kestrel
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What do u think oz

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What’s ur interpretation

compact olive
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Well... there’s generally candles standing by almost every door in prairie but none inside the area for hidden forest end....

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So in the age of day, it would seem the ancestors used candles to light the dark stones (diamonds)

sly kestrel
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Those candles could be long destroyed, and we use our candles bc it’s our source of light
But they could’ve used any source of flame to activate the doors
But that’s simply my head canon

compact olive
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Like @lethal stump said. They could open it by themselves with whatever light source was available

celest spoke
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Maybe a security feature so only people carrying a butterfly jar could activate?

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Do the multiperson door areas have something in common? Maybe shared with the 8-person elevator? For that matter are the 4-person gated areas twice as something as the 2-person gates?

compact olive
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Only city entrances/exits have single dark stone locks

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But houses, storage units, etc. all duel locks

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Here’s a crazy thought

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Maybe they were never locked?

hushed steeple
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I have something to say

compact olive
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If we follow @lethal stump solo theory....

hushed steeple
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I completely agree with Brick, the game is solo

compact olive
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Yes smoll? I’m all ears

hushed steeple
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Everything is supported by the fact that we are the only skid in all of the cutscenes

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We shepherd the same spirit and so on

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We are supposed to be the only skid

compact olive
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Okay I can respect that. That kinda sounds like “fact”now that you linked cutscenes

celest spoke
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Pft so our contrails are skidmarks

hushed steeple
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The reason it's multiplayer is because like most games, it's more fun with other people

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But, I think the other skids are made like ghosts to us

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Because we are supposed to be alone

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They aren't supposed to "exist"

compact olive
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Even in the cut scene of the opening, the “sun god/megabird /narrator” says “I’ve sent you” and only shows one light fall from the sky.

hushed steeple
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Exactly

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We are the "hero"

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But like all games, everyone is the hero

compact olive
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Great head way! @hushed steeple @lethal stump

vital glade
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Hey

hushed steeple
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The difference here is, me and Brick don't agree on the ending

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I think the game ends after we go through the light

compact olive
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Does anyone have contrary ideas of it being a solo lore experiences (GAIj) but a multiplayer PU experience ?

hushed steeple
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The rest is just a reply of the game

vital glade
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I noticed something about the wings. Do they look like paper to anyone else?

compact olive
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We’re getting there smoll

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(To the ending that is)

short owl
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... How can the game have ended if we haven't unlocked the final gift? There's a surprise ending not in the fame yet and I really want it

lethal stump
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dépends on if you consider cosmetics to be lore or not

compact olive
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Bingo @lethal stump

short owl
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Why would it be a cosmetic?

hushed steeple
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They are definitely just for us

lethal stump
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ultimate ultimate, after unlocking all cosmetics

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that hinges on cosmetics as a « lore » feature

hushed steeple
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It would be mighty boring if we all looked the same

vital glade
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^

compact olive
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So is it a consensus that the “moth” look is the lore skid ?

hushed steeple
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Yep

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For me at least

lethal stump
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same

hushed steeple
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That's why we all start with the same look

compact olive
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So do you believe the duel doors are just a game mechanic that helps PU/multiplayer experience and not part of the solo GAI experience?

hushed steeple
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Yep

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The game is supposed to encourage helping each other and of course making new friends

compact olive
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So the ending... when does it become multiplayer experience territory for you ?

hushed steeple
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So it was definitely added to encourage us to help each other

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The ending isn't multiplayer tho

compact olive
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When does it stop being canon?

hushed steeple
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The entire ending is completely solo

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From the moment you enter Eden to the moment you die and are reborn

compact olive
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But it says “you’re about to be reborn”

hushed steeple
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Yes

celest spoke
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(quiet correction that generic double things are “dual”, “duel” is two people fighting, and now I have Hamilton stuck in my head again)

hushed steeple
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But that's the thing

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We don't know WHAT reborn leads to

compact olive
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But what does the cut scene show? (After it turns white)

celest spoke
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Reborn leads to wing buffs?

gaunt sleet
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You can warp to your friends throughout whole end so your flying with them 🙂

hushed steeple
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We could be reborn into a new world for all we know

compact olive
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Doesn’t it show a candle flame?

hushed steeple
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No, it shows us falling

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Which indicates we are starting the game all over

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As the fallen skid that is supposed to save the world

compact olive
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@gaunt sleet samuel (I think that would fall under using table to glitch through door, no?)

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Wait @hushed steeple checking cut scene on YouTube again. I thought it showed the candle light if you don’t skip

modest sequoia
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Oh, never really thought about that candle after the credits SkyLOL

hushed steeple
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I haven't seen that

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So I don't know

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I may have skipped it

modest sequoia
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You always skip the credits? SkyLOL

hushed steeple
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Yep

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I play with a friend

gaunt sleet
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No no , you can go through eden complete the statue bit together and just warp so you can hold hands as you cant hold hands the normal way, just trying to say your not alone through the end

hushed steeple
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We basically speed run the game after to get our wl

celest spoke
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Just delay skip until after orbit star

modest sequoia
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Must signify something, eternal flame? pThink

compact olive
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Okay back

hushed steeple
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It may mean we get to finally meet the others

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The other skids we saved

modest sequoia
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Hmm, what does that candle mean? pThink
Eternal light that cannot be put out? Does make me think that it is supposed to be the same skykid when you're reborn. His spirit lives on in new form?

hushed steeple
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But Oz that is before the end

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That is sky kids

compact olive
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No it after

modest sequoia
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Is that what happens when you respawn without unlocking any spirit locks?

compact olive
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Or during

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I’ll post in order

modest sequoia
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It is! And you glitched to the 0 winged light area SkyTada

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Actually have no idea how you got there from orbit SkyLOL

modern smelt
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I bring important news from the crimson wastes

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There are statues of king there

hushed steeple
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I think the candle in the end symbolises our creation, we are supposed to be like a candle for some reason

hushed steeple
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Or maybe it's supposed to be symbolism that there will be always light to counte the darkness

compact olive
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@modern smelt there are also statues of him in valley I believe as well (king)

modest sequoia
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Something funny, back in Droid beta, the candle was bugged and would appear unlit. Just wick.
It was so depressing SkyCry

hushed steeple
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There are statues of king there
@modern smelt
We've discussed them before, we think that the closer you get to Eden the more king propaganda there was that was being spread

modest sequoia
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Like saying, yep, yur dead SkyPoint

short owl
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I thought the candle because it's safe to interact with dark and light. Most of what we see is one or the other, but in reality you need both to work together for a healthy system

compact olive
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@hushed steeple where do you draw the line between lore and pU ?

modest sequoia
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pU? pThink

compact olive
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Personal use...

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Not lore or canon

hushed steeple
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@hushed steeple where do you draw the line between lore and pU ?
@compact olive
What do you mean?

compact olive
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In the ending cut scene

hushed steeple
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Even the song in the end has symbolism

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Everything in the game has symbolism

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But the credits don't have to be connected to it

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The candle appearing lit could very well be symbolism

compact olive
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In the end cutscene it cycles back to you being brought back with a wing to start game over again

hushed steeple
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Yes

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And I believe I already said that I believe that is the beginning

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Further supported by the fact we experience the same cutscenes and everything else

compact olive
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So at what point do you feel the cutscene doesn’t represent a second playthrough, or a loop as @lethal stump suggests ?

hushed steeple
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The second time we are reborn

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We don't know what happens after our rebirth

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But why would WE the hero of this universe be put in a prison loop

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It also doesn't make sense that we are the king

compact olive
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@hushed steeple no I understand that PU it’s a second playthrough, but what makes the lore part end before the rebirth fir you personally?

short owl
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cause we're not the hero but a prison

hushed steeple
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Why would Megan trust the king to do good, IF he is unsavable

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@hushed steeple no I understand that PU it’s a second playthrough, but what makes the lore part end before the rebirth fir you personally?
@compact olive
We see the credits roll, and we don't see what happens after

compact olive
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That’s a good question @hushed steeple (thinking on it for a second)

hushed steeple
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It is in my opinion done on purpose to let our imagination roam free

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Which part is the question?

short owl
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We force the prince to see again and again what happened to his kingdom and watch helplessly as we die a rather painful death because of it

compact olive
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Why would Meghan trust king if unsalable

hushed steeple
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Exactly

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Skids are made out of light and darkness

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We are both