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“Brick is IN THE BUILDING”
“Correction, brick IS THE BUILDING”
only light
Bruh
Prince got yeeted down and had to catch a ride in a random sky boi and be reconnected like the rest of the elders
Is wat i got from this
imo nah
when he lost all his light and became pure darkness, basically « dying », megan took him up into orbit and reshaped him into a skid
she sent him down and now he has to keep reliving the same experiences over and over and over again, caught in a time loop where even his old « friends » forget and remember him every time
it’s their punishments
Bruh that be sad as hek
Why meganbird called megan tho
because my autocorrect did that a bit ago and now that’s her name
Fair enough
it’s just a joke name
My typo wasnt a typo after that so thats cool i guess
Sky lore is pretty much done for now i guess
Anybody noticed that if you look straight up in Orbit you can see megabird and a constellation of sky kids? Apologies if this is common knowledge and I’m just realizing now
I thought sanct was gonna give me some juice but the only thing that stuck with me was where the hek did glass like material on chill spirit came from
Here is a tiny (not that great) sketch of the prince
Tfw your incarnates keep krilling themselves on purpose
OH MY GOD I LOVE HIM
does
does he have a mullet
LMAO
no its just slicked back longish hair
prolly will, just will take a bit
take your time, it’ll pay off
is he still gonna be a tiny gremlin
I could barely draw a potato
Looks great tho
And the way sky kids were designed looks oddly similar to that big hero 6 robot
Mee6 came to mind when i think of the name for some reason
Baymax ?
Ah yes baymax
Nobody:
Skykids: ⚈--⚈
weeeerrghh?
ri pls
is this price gonna be a smol gremlin like before or no—
so like, jelly or thrillseeker spirit ?
ye
Which height skid 
like the thrillseeker spirit
Oh ok
i love his design ngl
i cant say it enough
Confetti Cousin
- saves image to admire it later *
My version of the "prince relives his life as a skykid as punishment" theory involves the prince purposely shoving himself into the skykid to protect the skykid's will, even if he himself must be lost
Ive taken some inspiration of various middle eastern royalty clothing
mine is involuntary, cause that’s how punishments be
even if the prince regretted what he did, he wouldn’t willingly let himself be punished
the king
the prince/not corrupt king
My version of the "prince relives his life as a skykid as punishment" theory involves the prince purposely shoving himself into the skykid to protect the skykid's will, even if he himself must be lost
@short owl my version is he regretted the ruin that he brought to his kingdom, he was dying though, so in a last ditch effort he incarnated himself into the skykids knowing that they could achieve what he could not
Would he allow himself to be punished? No. Would he do something drastic when he knows he can't escape punishment? Perhaps.
Prince and king are both seperate characters?
no
no
Oh ok
the prince was crowned king
Then whose the corrupt king
I dont believe it was a punishment but allowing himself to right some of his wrongs
How can the prince fly you out of the corrupt king if he is the corrupt king?
The prince was crowned king and then became corrupt?
I don’t think the storm itself is the king. I think it represents his ambition and it got out of control and destroyed him.
yeet
I think the big diamond is bad
:0
Could it be just a super powerful darkstone?
I think it was meant to use orbit's power, but a mere diamond could not handle such an energy, so it blew up
i mean it looks like its in a crater
It went boom
Angy big diamond couldnt handle all the chewables
old eden was a pretty deep crater
it had bodies floating around it too 
me too
same
cries in late ios
i wish i knew about the games' existance last year
lowkey wish we still had the beta's landscape but still the red color theme
Old isle looked livelier than it is now
it seems everyone likes old beta more 
Not all of it
for me its the colours
I heard u used to lose emotes instead of stars
its mentioned in one of the pins
I mean old eden looked brutal but i liked that they changed it from blue to red, blue eden seemed cold and empty but i prefer its current menacing and chaotic color theme
well, do people die willingly?
eden represents death, orbit represents rebirth
i think snowy eden would be cool ngl
cold...isolating...biting wind
although i don’t think tgc wants to basically copy journey 
yeah that is basically journey tbh
Well no one does, but u can die peacefully aswell
some people die willingly
that topic is a little eh for this channel dontcha think?
im not gonna continue that one boss
Oh ye im.getting hooked by that topic but nvm
lets n o t
Yes
im not talking about ||su*cide||
Uhnuno
im talking about old people who willingly let themselves be taken off of life support to finally have peace
ah well
tbh death is a scary thing, even if you accepted it its still scary, so it only makes sense that eden is scary as well
Krills are fun tho
also not to mention that a disaster took place in a literal sense
Waaait
Meh atleast spirits had a place to return to
What do we know about the prince?
that he is dead
dead
That’s all?🥺
is he though ? i mean, his soul is in us
How do we know it?
we don’t know, it’s all theories
Uuh
he's technically dead, and alive at the same time if we use theories
it would've been cool to have him as a guide only to have a plot twist where we realized he is long dead
Imagine the whole lore of sky on the merch shop 
sky novel 
like he would communicate to us similar to how aang talked to his past lives in Avatar
Y E S
Too poor for merch tho
i was thinking subtitles like the intro but that works too!
But i saw the crab poem thingy
And i think im not wrong about the crabs not being the way they used to be before
i’m working on elder voice headcanons
idk what voice the prince would have
i mostly listen to adult voice actors so none of them would be fitting
I’m so tempted to ask a lot of questions you’ve probably already answered million times🤠
ask !
But I’m neww and I want to know your theories🥺
A S K
Uh aw okay
ask away :)
Ask now

What’s up with the big red diamond?
Its angy
its overloaded and went boom
And erupted
Why?
the eden diamond ! it was likely used to store light of some sort, perhaps something that made the king/elders more powerful. but eventually it overloaded and went boom
Yes
Oh that’s wild
Why?
@cunning smelt because thats what happens when you use a force (most likely orbit in this case) as an energy source that you cant control
What happened to the elder of the wasteland?
the final spirit is called elder in English right?
my theory goes is that he was krilled in battle
thats a little iffy, we dont really get much about the elders
the final spirit is called elder in English right?
@cunning smelt the Vault Elder ?
my theory is that he is trapped in a pocket dimension powerless and unable to return to orbit
nop like, every last spirit of every realm
@cunning smelt the king (the one you don't get to see) is "not arround to be saved" according to tgc
Chonky wasteland elder looks too c h o n k y to lose tho
no, thé only things called elders are the ones we meditate to see
even the best get o o f e d
I’m Italian and I still haven’t learn all the correct terms lol
that’s ok 👍
NOOOO


MY EYES

I know. If you are gonna put somethin on a pizza, SLICE IT FIRST

UUH YEAH, next question
Wat did the spirits eat tho
What are the krills and why they exist
I mean forest hunted whales for sure
pizza with basil and baked tomatoes is the only type of pizza ill accept
crabs apparently@frozen pivot
You’re wise
we don’t know what the krills are or why they exist
some theories are that they are natural beings trained to hunt and krill
@normal berry still too much imo. Peperoni and olives only
unfortunately
Best one? Bufala and tomatoes🤩
we new yorkers are pretty good at pizza, of course you cant beat the original
I wonder if pizza in sky is canon tho
anyWays i have derailed the topic once again
I wonder if pizza in sky is canon tho
@frozen pivot valley twins would make the most cursed combinations
valley twins at 2 AM putting nutella and cookies on pizza
Sounds right
Thats really accurate, its scary
I doubt that. Prarie might do it though
they only have one braincell and they fight over who gets to use it
My theory is that they are the same entity just split into two
they're dummies, and i love them
so if my theory is correct then they canonically have one braincell
Valley twins oversee a very important buisness district. I feel like people forget that
Skid: give light
Twins: haha light goes ping pong
thank you for coming to my ted talk
Well they are considered one
since when was valley business ? it’s entertainment. like if the superbowl was a city
i mean there is the citadel
Isn't the superbowl in a city?
Well they pay to see superbowl
but that’s just...where people live
I dont think its only the colosseum
until valley is expanded we only know that they do sports and live there
Like... People worked and lived in Valley.
Theres the citadel in it aswell and its.pretty peculiar
We see evidence of people living there
sports and probably arena fights
in the olden days warriors would participate in sports and games to train, perhaps its the same there
I forgot wat citadel means but it goes along the lines of a fortress that watches over something
ye
Yeah there are sports, but theres no way that's all Valley has
So why of all places would it be in valley
its a fortified section of a city (a little city, if you will)
And the big globe in the middle aswell
"A citadel is the core fortified area of a town or city. It may be a castle, fortress, or fortified center. The term is a diminutive of "city" and thus means "little city", so called because it is a smaller part of the city of which it is the defensive core"
some theorize that the globe is orbit 
Yep heard about it
Tho i like to think they were watching the world for some reason
or it’s a way to say it’s the « centre of the kingdom »
i feel like the valley elders are selfish enough to have that made
I mean valley is at the summit
read...read that sentence again
Ah
I worded.it wrong but wat im tryna say is the city is at a higher place compared to other realms
yeah
but eden is the highest
i mean, you can always see it unless you’re indoors, it’s always looming over the kingdom
lots of places seem to teleport you, it’s not unimaginable that you go from the elder room to the bottom of eden
i’d imagine that’s why the king/elders chose eden to be the castle. from there they can see everything, everyone. an easy sense of grandeur
i imagine if the summit wasn’t blocked by the storm, you could see the whole kingdom stretched underneath
you'd be able to see just about everything that's happening
Ok how about this: from the temple in wasteland is a tunnel that leads to an underground vault, which throughout the level you are raised to the top of the vault, which has a door to the base of eden's moutain
that sounds pretty good, Ri !
imagine the clouds clearing and getting to see the kingdom 
i would love that
tmw you feel like the prince
tfw you are a piece of the prince

if we all get on each other's shoulders we will become the prince
F U S I O N D A N C E
90% of lore chat: imagining what the game would be like if things were different
9% of lore chat: off topic rambles
1% of lore chat: lore
lots of places seem to teleport you, it’s not unimaginable that you go from the elder room to the bottom of eden
@lethal stump u do kno vault is a tower right? And once u get to the top, that’s where the top of the mountain is, and eden
Vault is in the mountain 
vault is the mountain ??
read my sentence again

i have angst who wanna hear it
M E
Okay! Players, so you got some older ones, some newer ones
The newer ones are bright eyed and bushy tailed and the older ones are not. They have cracked masks, torn clothes, dirty or scarred arms. (They have shadows and are therefore not pure light)
And legs too
The newer ones ask what happened, why do they look so hurt, so tired
No one tells them. The name, Eden, is whispered, almost as if fearing what could happen if they say it too loud
When they go through eden the first time, they understand. They don’t feel as tired as they look. They say something about how they’re glad that’s over, when the older ones inform them that no, that’s not the end. There’s more that needs saved. The younger asks how many times they’ve gone through.
They’re horrified when the older has lost count
Things that horrify new players, like krill, or graveyards like in the vault, don’t even get a flinch out of the older ones.
More more ,am on the edge of my seat reading
The older players have gone through this cycle for ages. They know they can’t stop the new ones, but they can try to keep them safe, at least. They lead the new players through the forests and the krill spaces. They try to show the young ones some good in the world.
Those who play alone feel lonely, ||but better lonely than seeing your friends die over and over. Perhaps when they were young, they brought someone with them (or someone brought them along) and they watched as their friend slowly turned to stone.|| They were horrified, and rightly so. They don’t get to experience high fives, or hugs, or piggyback rides.
Butterflies are enjoyed alone, if at all. Mantas are ridden in silence rather than laughing and pun sharing
Theory:
Crabs are just baby krills; they move around in circles until they spot something, at which point their eyes turn from blue to red, and they screech as they make their strike.
Convince me I’m wrong 🧐
i love that angst, Hades
Those who play music fall into two categories. They’re happy and cheerful or dark and solemn. Those who play happy music try to help others by lifting up spirits, by reminding others that there is still good out there to fight for. It reminds them of butterflies and exploring, and flying so high that the winds push you back down. It keeps spirits up as you push past the darkness
Amazing
Those who play dark music try to share their story, hoping to protect the young ones. They hope to stop them from an endless cycle of self-sacrifice. Once you go in, there’s no turning back. After all, how can one just sit there and do nothing when others need their help?
It never works, of course, but they try
actually @pallid citrus , i think you are on to something
The way you write is amazing ,draws you in and is deeper than the abyss 🤍
Sometimes, the older ones grow angry. “How can those who came before care so little?” They ask. “How can they allow this cycle to continue?” They cry out, angry, outraged. These are friends and family. These are innocents who feel the urge to help those in need.
I love your lore
They slowly grow angrier and angrier. Their light starts dimming more and more, their friends grow worried, for loosing light is never a good thing. Perhaps this is how krill are born. Perhaps krill are trying to protect children of light, but in their rage, they end up hurting them instead.
Beautiful
Omg! 😱 @modern smelt o have “goosebumps” more! More!
(I would like to reiterate my absolute love for angst)
Well, what do you want more of? A certain area? Creatures? Darkness? Candles?
that is so poetic 
The stars?
angst is the best
Well, what do you want more of? A certain area? Creatures? Darkness? Candles?
@modern smelt i wanna know your take on the king/prince
angst >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Angst
Angst!
This is amazeballs @modern smelt I don’t like reading one bit! But this! This has got me hooked! 🎣
The prince was once like us, too. Perhaps we were created in their image. Young, hopeful, and kind. But everyone needs to grow up, especially when the world is cruel. Perhaps the prince tried to save someone, or someone he cared deeply for was badly hurt. He learned, and he grew. He gained scars and covered himself in armor. He tries to raise others up. Perhaps his kindness was taken advantage of. Perhaps someone hurt him, or he grew angry at the world, too, and slowly turned corrupt. Did he come before the stars? Was he raised in their image? Did they, too, forget him?
what’s up with emoji spam
we must praise great storytelling
bows dramatically emotions are what drive us to be who we are. Emojis can be used to express these emotions
I must say , never clicked on this channel, glad I did , so refreshing to read something so inspiring and completely different from other channels ,i find myself relating to the emotions felt while reading the stories
Exactly
Not spam it’s praise
lore channel is great for some tears every now and then
If you need help with angst, hit me up. I have had years to develop this skill.

Awesome stories ,so so amazing 🤍
(This is why I wanna work on games after college. There’s so many stories I can share, so many tears that can be spilt, and so many experiences that can be seen)
maybe you could work for TGC 
(Maybe)
Leonie , keep the feeling the story gave you and don’t worry about other stuff ....don’t let anyone bring you down 🤍🕊️🤍
I’m sick of people doing this constant
Anyways love y’all good people
^-^
Send CV to TGC
Thankyou @gaunt sleet I mist admit they did make me feel that way! And Thankyou @modern smelt for your kind words! I am In touch with my feelings and NOT afraid to show that!
Me too! @gaunt sleet 🙄🥺 no one is just friendly no more or has something nice to say! (Not you @modern smelt or @gaunt sleet ) you 2 are great! 😉
That’s wonderful! Emotions make us who we are. It makes us compassionate and it makes us colorful and textured and three dimensional. To lose that is to lose who you are
y’all are so wholesome 
Leonie ,listen don’t worry ,people pick on you because they want a piece of who you are ....🤍🕊️🤍
Thankyou! Thankyou so much! @modern smelt you have made me feel better already! And you to @gaunt sleet!
^-^
I wanna make angsty fanart of starting out and finishing the game fully
Also I wanna do one with butterflies
gasp I can do both
I’d love to hear more of your work for sure @modern smelt ,I hope I can find you on this channel again 🙂
Thankyou
I’ll be on here often, I love hearing and sharing ideas. If there’s anything you would like to request for lore thoughts, lemme know!
now i wanna make more angst
I’ll listen!
im still thinking...i think i’ll draw it
Nice
i want to write from a skykid's perspective....
Do it!
Okay I will Thankyou ,,,,anyways sleep time for me ,, goodnight kind ones ....butterfly fan never stop what you do ....it’s amazing 🤍🕊️🤍
goodnight !
^-^ night!
Thankyou Night night 🙂 ...oh @turbid crescent head up keep being you and don’t let em get to you /I know you really really find it hard but remember only you know who you are 🙂 and I will see you in sky tomorrow
ktjn 
Thankyou so much @gaunt sleet 🥰 i just don’t get why I come in new to a channel and instead of being welcomed with open arms (community bearing in mind!) I get why you doing this! Why you doing that! 🙄 yes see you in sky for another amazing fun packed day as always! 😘 & Thankyou 🙏🏻 once again @modern smelt for your kind words & storytelling that had me hooked from “get go!” ☺️
Coming in a little late, but if people are being unkind, please report these things to #contact-the-mods or DM @untold pivot
We want everyone to feel welcome, but please keep things on topic, fan art have their own channels. Canon and fan theories about the lore of sky are both welcome here. Don't shame for use of emotes and reactions, I'd hate to have to disable them in this channel if folks cannot be respectful.
Huh!? I don’t understand are you saying not to use the emotes @agile galleon
You don't need to @ me, i'm right here
I don’t understand what you are saying
That wasn't what I said either.
You put a bunch of reactions on a message and someone questioned the reasoning for their presence, it's a weird thing call someone out for.
The reminder to keep things respectful was directed at the whole channel.
Ohh yep yep I get what you mean
There have been reports of folks being aggressive, dismissive, and unwelcoming in here, so that's why I'm lurking in here more than in the past.
sorry if my emoji spam comment came off as aggressive, i’m bad at tone through text
Leonie was confused because she keeps getting treated like that every post or reaction she puts up and I’m a witness to that and unfortunately I get the same on every single post I post someone has a problem with it and to be honest coming on this channel and reading such beautiful words was lovely until the same thing as usual happened to leonie as always
What your saying is I now have another high up member to convert to the Mind Control Megan theory...
I am glad you are in here more often now as I have been tret appallingly lately Thankyou so much
Anyways goodnight peoples ...really got to go to sleep ..I hope all gets better sometime soon ...Sky is a beautiful game and you’d think it be the same on the official discord ...boy was I wrong ...night everyone take care 🙂
good night !
Goodnight!
Good night @gaunt sleet ❤️🥰😘
Goodnight @modern smelt ❤️🥰😘
Goodnight @lethal stump ❤️
i don’t sleep
i sap energy from the power diamond in my room 
Sometimes less is more, just because you can put 20 reactions on a post doesn't mean they should all be put up by one person, if that makes sense. It can be perceived as trolly or disruptive to the topic being discussed.
Communicating through text has its own etiquette and nuance. Things like @ ing for every response, or failing to remove the @ when quote-replying (unless a long period of time has passed) are considered less than ideal etiquette. while you two might appreciate the pings, that isn't a widely accepted sentiment. Being cognizant of your audience is important when maintaining respectful behavior.
Once again aimed like we have done wrong
Once again I am being targeted! 😱🥺
You two
Serious
🙄
Night good peoples
Night
gn yall !
Good night
...what jus happened?
Yes, I am aiming this at you two @turbid crescent @gaunt sleet now, you've burst into this channel with chatter that doesn't contribute to the topic of the channel. Your banter would better live in #general-sky-discussion
i dunno jay im as confused as you
I apologize if I’m coming off as rude, but I’m not sure what’s wrong? The only sort of issue we have had (and we resolved) was someone commenting on how others were reacting to my message, which seems to be an ongoing issue.
The only issue I saw was the repeated amount of pinging when that isn’t much appreciated to some ppl, including me
Fair point
Was on topic quite happily until the issue happened which was not us
It’s a free country
Yes but did u listen to what ktjn said?
It might be a free country, but that doesn't mean you are free from repercussions of your actions.
Why do you always butt in
but the server has rules, Leonie. And the devs are...kinda in charge here. it’s respectful to listen to them to build a strong community 
It was resolved
Every channel I’m in or go to you follow me!
Some people have no business even getting involved in something that was resolved
Only official
Ok, so on topic question: what determines strength in Sky? Is it physical body size or energy levels?
I don’t...get it
I thought we were all simply appreciating what butterfly fan had to say at first. I’m confused where the “rudeness” came from and how an issue came to rise. No one was attacking you guys in any way
everyone has a responsibility to hold each other accountable for maintaining a welcoming environment. Having a differently colored name shouldn't determine whether you decide to listen or show respect for one another.
The rudeness was a message that was perceived as rude
That might feel to some like being picked on , so plz think about others feelings and be empathetic to their issue in the first place
what do you mean by strength, null? as in physical strength or say magical strength?
We had handled it and talked about it
since it seems like the spirits can use some forms of magic as well as strength
Null: hmm that’s an interesting question. I like to think our strength is tied to the friends we make along the way. 
strength is tied to good friends, and wing power of course 
wren just say stronk
Anyways butterfly awesome work , night again 🙂
i think strength has to do with how many times you’ve gone through rebirth. afterall when we leave we’re « strengthened » by wing buffs
Like lets say you wanted to lift one of the butterfly jars. Ignoring that height limits your height and torque is a thing, can bigger beings lift bigger jars?
Thank you Samuel!
mental and emotional strength
I would think so, Null
well i know my skykid must be pretty stronk then, as they can lift max height skykids even as baby size. maybe theyre like ants?
could be why we don't get the butterfly jars
though we can carry crabs
hmmm, how heavy do you think a crab is?
they can withstand thousands of rocks in eden, so I'd say yes 
maybe a few pounds
we might be able to get a rough estimate for how strong skykids are physically
Null: I like to think, for comedy’s sake that the smaller you are the stronger you are. Just imagine a teeny tiny skykid lifting that quite huge butterfly jar 
we carry whole tables on our backs and still manage to fly, we re pretty strong 
i mean, Daisy brings up a good point. Chibis can carry size 1 skids, maybe our strength is just what we put our mind to
about the weight of a cat or dog
well, sanct crabs are like the size of my skykid, so probably pretty heavy
do you think crabs are/were rocks? they look like rocks with legs
i can carry them though, so does that mean i can almost lift my own weight?
wren, this might help you: https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/575827782144098304/683045158396231689
yeah, sanct crabs is quite the chonk, i wonder how much they weigh
living rock babies 👀👀
bless chia
np 
chia 
we stan alex for accurate skykid stronk info
no i do not wren, there are three crabs roasting over a spit, if they were rocks then they could not be skewered like that
Anyone know what's up with the small blue butterfly at the end of the valley race? I haven't seen any other blue butterflies
and it's pretty but, why is it there
? (sorry if i'm interrupting, ktjn
)
but yeah, what is the source of the power?
in the earlier concepts they looked like copepods 
Fire: they probably weight quite a lot. I believe the crabs in the jelly cave are bigger. Trying to kind of figure out their weight relative to their size could be an adventure for science 
oh true, Ri
we could try a physics perspective, but i don’t know anything about physics 
I hadn't thought of that
oh the pretty blue butterflies?
Yes!! Why are they there 
for science, em 
physics perspective? like calculate the density and volume? or like velocity and stuff 
Cough. For the lore science 
maybe theyre another species!
I think they were there to surround the winner of the race, if my memory is right
yeah, probably
So valley butterflies are blue? 
okay my phone is dying so i cannot talk lore anymore. peace 
only the winner of the sliding race at least gets a blue butterfly at the end
Jus a tiny lil feature to praire the winner
bye daisy!
Oh cool Jay! That... actually makes sense 
see you daisy 
Bye daisy! 
someone brought up a point earlier that crabs were adolescent krill and i gotta say i like that theory
And I beliveeeeeee they were there in pre launch beta as well
I do wonder if the blue butterfly has any symbolic value? Since it seems to only appear for the one that won the race
so we get recharged by butterflies, but does that mean that spirits were the same?
Ri, that's a bold theory but I love it 
or do they rely on artificial sources
well, let’s take a chibi, 2’3
they’re hollow on the inside, but made of clay. if we can find the possible weight of a skid we might be able to figure out how much we can carry 
they follow the same search pattern as krill, and they do turn red when they spot people, so i agree with the crab is baby krill theory
Ri, that's a bold theory but I love it
it wasnt my theory it was jo's, im just saying i like the theory
see but how hollow, what s the thickness of the skin, and what s the surface area of a skykid 
Well game mechanic wise, size can’t change how u can carry things
is someone willing to donate enough clay for the cause of making a 2'3" chibi skykid?
can we pick up krill tho? no, not yet
maybe one day
Em: Hmm the only thing that comes to my mind is blue as in blueblood which makes me think maybe the winner gets some sort of royal gift.... eh nah, doesn't sound like sky 
blue is also usually the color of first prize ribbons, at least in the US
You know that huge diamond in the last part of Eden. The so called eye? I like to think of it as a power diamond just about to explode into pieces. It looks really unstable 
Oh I didn't know that! 
gold probably wouldn't have registered as different since the butterflies are usually yellow
let’s all pitch in and make a skid for physics experiments
It makes sense though, they share an almost identical behavior: walking around in circles until they detect and charge at somthing
Ah true. Ribbons for first place are usually blue. Good catch 
Em, there’s actually a rlly big theory most of us had that it did explode, and this is what caused the destruction of everything and the storm
I wonder if the eden krill are a different species of krill to the gw ones 
We call it
The eden explosion
yeah, it’s assumed it already exploded and is currently causing the storm and is in the process of breaking down
Oh I haven’t been in lore for a while. Seems like I need to do some back reading when I’m not tired 
Idk about a different specifies but
Here’s one speculation, the eden krill can eliminate ur light instantly jus by being close to them
Other krill can’t do this
Ktjn is typing... Here's hoping it's a fun red herring!
Same Em! I don't think I've ever chatted here, only ever watched! 
The conversation has largely passed, but I do want to leave this.
If you feel you have been treated unfairly, please DM @untold pivot and we can look into it. Ongoing passive aggressive complaints in chat channels accomplishes nothing but attempts to target or hunt people down.
I want to reiterate, it is everyone's responsibility to show kindness and respect. If someone calls you out for being disrespectful, take a moment to reflect on how you'd react to something similar being directed at you. Immediately taking a defensive stance hinders empathy, growth, and understanding. Tone and intent can very easily get muddied through text.
it is widely accepted that the eden diamond is an unstable power diamond, most likely drawing energy from orbit which was most likely what made it overload in the first place!
aw no lore hints
thank you nonetheless ktjn !
thank you, ktjn!
Thank you ktjn! Making this community epic

I see Ri. Interesting. Definitely need to do some searching here tomorrow 
wait, did forest elder forged the small power diamond in the cutscene or is it something else 
Thanks everyone tbh 
either drawing energy from orbit, or storing excess light
My lore hint for today:
Soon™
Fire: maybe forest elder put the power diamond in Eden but she couldn’t contain the power it drew from Eden 

Omi, go sleep 
Soon? SOON?! BUT WE LIVE IN A TIME LOOP
SOON COULD BE NEXT WEEK AND WE'D NEVER GET THERE
Soon™ is a valid response to everything lol
and Omi why are you awake 
plot twist
Soon is an abbreviation
not a time loop imo but a loop of sorts
Time to spend hours decoding ktjn's message, only to find out we've been rickrolledTM 
soon stands for:
S the
O king
O is
N ||oreo||
Hah Ri, you act as if we didn't already know that 


of course 
soon is trademarked 
But, Ri, that much is apparent 
all hail our overlord

The answer to everything in sky can be answered with either Soon™ or Oreo 
👑
also megabird
or the prince
did i just got rickrolled
Megabird is oreo 
JK lol, but I've heard a lot about this megabird, not really sure what it is tbh 
answers to every lore moff question:
- Soon™️
- Oreo
- Power diamond
- The Prince
i think megabirb is a supercluster of planets/galaxies, like laniakea
Megabird is oreo
JK lol, but I've heard a lot about this megabird, not really sure what it is tbh
It’s something we found in the concepts as a high deity of life and light, our theories state that the megabird exists in the current lore
Brick, that's almost a complete sentence
that is surprisingly shaped like a megabirb
Soon stands for:
S — Sleep
O — One
O — Ought To
N — Now
Megabirb kind of strikes me as the Pleiades cluster or the Andromeda galaxy. Both equally as mysterious 
Also, yes, Omi. I’ll go sleep, but you gotta sleep too 
Woah that's so cool! But... the megabird isn't a literal birb right?
it’s only 6 PM for me 
In the concepts it’s the reason for rebirth and the cycle of life and ruler of light and stuff
But overall it’s not actually a bird
at least, what we think is the megabird
megabird reminds me or a nebula, cause that is where stars are born 
No, Es. But it looks like one
Thanks Wren! 
Hey jay have I missed any new lore the last few days?
yes
Hey wren!!
angst
Hey Hage, your imgur link to the megabird album isn't working
you’ve missed a lot
Oh my gosh it's so pretty....
Am I on a different wavelength or did Pines once draw a giant birb-like-creature 
haven't had the chance to ask about it lately
quite a lot 
@warped reef

the winter bird isn't the megabird, but it's a big birb
Okay, I'll leave now 
Omi 
Night Omi! Sneep snorp 
@cold steppe I know
that account got deleted for personal reasons beyond my control (nothing untoward just sad)
Anywho, happy lore theorizing. I’ll go sleep 
aw, ok
sorry that happened 
snee snorp em 
night, em!
Oooh, so what's the winterbird?
@lethal stump what’s new?
Megabirb child 🧠
Winterbird is the bird in the season ending cutscene
for Rhythm/Winter
It’s called winterbird since the season was first called winter
were you around for the mind control theory, Hage?
Is okay Wren 😉
Awwe cute! I need to see this cutscene
What’s the mind control theory and what evidence supports it?
has a softspot for birbs of all kinds 
Fun fact of the night: winterbird has been here ever since it appeared in the winter season. (Well not as a physical creature, but the cutscene back then also had a winterbird)
Eeeep Wren being epic again 
not evidence so much as it makes a cool story
I have the cutscene somewhere in my photo album of almost 2000 photos
ah yes, the unreliable narrator theory
all hail King Brick
or is it all propaganda?
I refuse to believe winterbirb isn't the megabirb's disciple, even though I know every little about the two 
Huh neat theory! I like it
it’s a fun theory just as such little backing
but then, most sky theories do since we have such little canon
Any new canon or credible theories? Ah krill I had something a few hours ago but I forgot it; it’ll come to me
It was something obvious we’d been overlooking but didn’t provide anything special I don’t think
OH
Think hard

Remember ur old thoughts and share it 
new canon is... soon™
bless ktjn
And omi
I remember, it was that krabs have the same colour and texture as the stone boats in ark, they hide until you get close
i hope it’s actually Soon™️
we need more canon
Some sort of evolutionary défense
I love how u spelled krabs like from spongebob...
I always spell it krabs 
kraeb

Krab and krill
k r e b
Well so far, no clues about the WaLK cYcLE from crabs
other than the fact that it was inspired by bats

still one of the freakiest things I've seen on this server
i was thinking they’re like those gold spinny power diamond things, or somehow related to them
what are you talking about wren ?
that looks cute ngl
it's cute, but... unsettling
i m extremely confused and concerned
bats are just cute
bats are definitely cute
but why is it on the ground??? and walking???
i want to share a headcanon, but i feel it’s a bit too much for this server, so i just 
nah, share it!
confirmation
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/713123900015378473
@cold steppe this is a mod speaking not a dev tho
fair
no i mean
not family friendly
it gets...triggering for some, i’d imagine
You can dm me the headcanon 👀
I'd also love to hear it

yeah
i’ll share in dms, and spoiler incase
i don’t wanna trigger anyone
thanks for being mindful, Brick
it’s still being worked on a bit, i’ll tell y’all when i have it fleshed out in an hour or so
Or u can send it here and ask if anyone has a problem with it 
no, i’ll air on the side of caution and keep it in dms
is there any knowledge of who placed the candle clusters down ?
aw okay 😔
i don’t want to get muted for violence or anything
you probably won't get muted for a first offense. Either the post itself will be automatically removed or a mod will remove it manually
Do u mind sending it to me as well 
I tried posting something here yesterday and it was taken down automatically
i haven’t even written it yet, i’ll do so now and send in DMs
probably should have seen that one coming though, tbh
I think it should be fine if you give a trigger warning then spoiler tag it
Muting I believe that comes from repeated profanity or disrespect towards others
Takes a lot to get muted
I don’t think they will attack you for a simply head canon so yes
anxiety say no
worst that can happen is they ask you to take it down
But we say yes 
i'm curious
if you don't feel comfortable sharing here, DM is fine
Ah I think it’s a bit much for in here
why don't we test the waters and see what will get taken down even with a warning and spoilers
oh
did you see it then I assume
Yea, if they take it down, jus say a simple sorry and they will understand, but ur making it sound like it has something RLYYYY terrible in it that the mods will get mad at you for
Keep to DMs I think (I haven’t seen it just the trigger warning)
And the mods are actually quite nice
Family friendly and all
current list for DM: Jay, Hage, {Wren}, Campanella
Ur username reminds me of the terrible song La Campanella my piano teacher expects me to learn 
lmao
i don’t want any offences 
Why are you pressuring someone to post something that could be against the rules
Even if they don’t get muted, they would still get an infraction
If they don’t want to post it then they don’t want to
we're not. we're suggesting that they could post it here if they wanted to see if it was bad enough/as bad as they are saying but no one is pressuring them
The d# spam
I mean, if u don’t feel comfortable with it u don’t have to
You’re telling them to test the waters to see if it’s against the rules
yeah and we all said that was cool
And if it is they will get in trouble
I would like to hear your idea, can you dm it to me?
no? we said it was an option
sorry for making you uncomfortable, brick
not telling them to do so
Peer pressure may not necessarily mean telling someone to do something. While I understand that may not have been your intention, it can still feel like it
just to confirm, are we thinking that the hook is the head, or is it something else?
aight
i mentioned it once but 🤷 i don't think that was pressuring them
however, if you did feel pressure brick I am sorry about that
I think if the trigger warning needs a spoiler tag then it’s too much for here
also i have never actually looked at that, but ti does look like the megabird
Brick is gonna dm whoever Brick wants to dm
Let’s jus leave it at that 
sounds good
now that I look at the picture again, the stars kind of look like bat wing webbing
ah yes. very good lore
Oh yes
is that a dog??
Yes
why
My doggo
Nah it’s a gorilla
Poor thing
its lore
why
Is it oreo in disguise?
@oblique junco please keep things on topic to sky (lore specifically in this channel)
yes, it's in orbit
ah gotcha
Oop
i should pay more attention
there's a skykid constellation too
actually the skykid constellation reminds me of something
oh huh
It’s a tree
That skykid constellation was actually from pre launch beta
interesting that there's three skykids
Isn’t the skykid constellation similar to a manta?
everyone is jesus in purgatory
It was something along the friend tree, I actually forgot what it did honestly
But I simply saw the skykid constellation as a beta memory
Sky light awaits, back in the old candle space
I mean it could mean something to the current lore
But I’m jus saying it was something found in pre launch beta that involved a friend ability
in greek mythology whenever a person or creature was or did something memorable, their image would be placed in the stars as a constellation. maybe someone put our image in the stars, to honor our efforts and eventual sacrifice that we make to free the elders, spirits and fallen skykids
See like that
The skykid constellation could have a meaning related to what ri said
ooh, I like that, Ri
but also, that brings up the question about when was it put up there?
I’m starting to think some of the beta memories that are present in the current game are actually jus repurposed instead of jus “beta memories”
Maybe beta memories are fossils
hopefully they are, jay
some deity, maybe megabird, maybe the king's spirit or something, maybe someone entirely different
the prince 
maybe
but when was it put up?
Like the bird at the citadel
What used to be a simple quest could possibly have lore to the current game
Like a symbolic bird having a meaning to the citadel
when i first noticed that bird i thought my game had glitched
as in, if we were the first to fulfill our mission, when were we put in the constellation?
dead bird on a sacrifical altar
prolly megabird, because that would contradict my "the prince is us" theory
it's awfully fast for something you can see if you look up in orbit on your first time
if that makes sense
why couldn't it be fast though? you have died and are about to be reborn; why couldn't your image be up in the stars already
Yeah, before it was jus a quest to fly around and collect lights for a reward
It could’ve been repurposed for a lore detail in the current game
But this is jus me thinking
Who knows, these things prolly are jus simple beta memories
Guess we’ll have to wafo
it's awfully fast for something you can see if you look up in orbit on your first time
because others were there before you, and others will be there after, the constellation isn't there for you specifically but your kind as a whole, and their mission
Maybe the birb represents the flying race
we’re literal heckin kids ( Ì _ Í)/
we are smol
if the space with the elders is out of time and space, why couldn't your image be put up in the stars after you traverse eden but before arriving? maybe it was always there
I believe they said that was the old office they used when developing journey
i think if you think of time as nonlinear, or rather, as orbit being a space outside of time, it would make sense
Awwww I remember legokidlogan
we are small and childlike, but we are also celestial entities, so our characters may be older then they appear
it is simply a container for the flame
all appearances are but manifestations of the flame controlled by your will
lmao
I am deeply sorry, jay
but yeah, I like the idea that they aren't actually children but entities that aren't really comparable if that makes sense 🤔
remids me of that time someone says they think were humuculus. i cant help but agree
yeah, something like that, I think
If u rlly think about it, the skykids and elders are aliens
you've been called to and awoken and sent down to earth already fully formed
even the spirits are aliens!
The spirits were from the sky world tho
i love that tgc managed to design something humanoid without conventional human features ie eyes noses ears, without going into uncanny valley
i feel like skykids are a bit like golems
i like that there are 3 species/groups/??? going on in this
but all interacting
Natural habitants
Elders fell from their original home and thrived on the sky world, skykids were also sent down
The ancestors were actually from the sky world tho
the spirits worshipping the elders who came from the stars, humanoid but not
the skykids sent down from the heavens, but definitely not the same as the elders
i headcannon skykids as having bodies that are just a physical manifestation like a hologram but it can interact with the world, which is also why we are able to manipulate it so easily (resize)
if anyone has read kill 6 billion demons i think of them like the angels
they have this defined shell but the flame that it contains is what actually gives them animation, and can shape their appearance (well, sort of)
i feel like spirits could use resize potions too, afterall these guys did have magic
owo
so since the chat is dead ima bring up a topic ive been thinking about: what is the significance of red and white candles?
like red candles are just scattered around here and there, but white candles seem more sacred. They are only used for shrines, murals and friendship levels, so they seem to be held of higher importance
also reminds me of the red and white capes in journey
maybe the white candles were meant for meditation or trade? the red candles only give us light fragments/pieces
im not the best at discussing things
hey. artificial lights dont light us
that’s a cool observation, but office isn’t lore related qwq
I suspect we need both heat and light to recharge
A glowing ice cube wouldn't do it, and burning sludge probably wouldn't do it either
but clouds aren’t hot yet they warm us 
also who was it who wanted my headcanon sent in DMs ? i’ve sent it to Jay and Hage already
Headcannon?
i'm curious
Missed convo pls catch me up
i think also {wren}
i had a headcanon that was not family friendly and said i’d send in DMs if you were ok with triggering content
Ah... I would need more info before a yes
what did i wake up to 
I would like your hc
I have an idea how to start Sea if you want that in your DMs though
Semi moth here. Just found this at Isle. Couldn’t find much info about it online. Any lore masters able to provide insight? I’m assuming it’s related to the ark...
same with this
@cold steppe can i dm you ?
it’s from lightseekers !
yeah it must be from a season. i stumbled upon a past season spirit (the grey light smth) in this cave
Ok, thanks a ton 🙂
yeah, as a moff i was so confused when i found that, i thought it was a spirit from the constellation 
also @tranquil thicket may I DM you too ?
hey so anyone got a theory as to why the isle elders mask is so broken?
it’s part of my not-family-friendly theory, if you’re interested i can dm you, Ri
it’s spoilered and TWed
dms only
yes
could..i possibly hear this theory too?
sûre, i’ll dm you if that’s ok
its a-okay
I'm not really doing dms now srry
that’s ok !
But thank you for asking!


i feel bad that i carry my harp everywhere & it might get dirty in wasteland ... so is there an in-universe reason that instruments arent made of real world materials?
so thats why
They literally materialize out of nowhere
Same goes for our candles which we just smack into our chests
since. the chat is sorta dead and im the ceo of bad ideas but. if the gw elder was invited to participate in one of the twins' land races. would he use his shield as a snowboard? Or go down the track normally? 
yeah somehow a skykid have their own candle at their disposal everytime
im thinking normally at the valley elders’ demands?
or they wouldnt give a heck
use the shield as a snowboard yesyesyes yesyesyes shdhfjf
i was thinking about this since yesterday because imagine how ridiculus it'd be seeing one big boi going down on a shield
i imagine vault elder would be entirely inept at the race
Vault mom: ends up skidding down face first
Forest elder bashing everyone's knees along the race
prairie uncle: literally just rolls
Isle : grouch emote
i was about to ask about isle grandpa lul
" I'm too old for this crap "
valley twins just laughing as they do the race with ease
Isle elder has osteoporosis
aw poor guy :<
let the grandpa watch the dummies on the track
i wonder how forest elder competes w valley twins (or their relationship w each other)
it might be a whole im better than you competition ordeal lol
imagine the king going down the sliding race 
local tall man trips and dies
yeah, forget the mech suit
just
yeet
slide down the track normally
y e a h
i just watched a vid about surviving a krill. is it me or i heard a mechanical noise (ch-ching) when the krill went red?
i think its an audio cue of oh god flee
yeah def dreadful yet makes me wanna dig how it makes that noise and what it says about its system
i wonder how the devs made the krill noises 
shrimp doggies
w......wait a sec
this mural shows flying boats, which need power diamonds to work, delivering the elders, who supposedly introduced power diamonds to the people of sky...
k o n f u s h o n
h m m
Maybe flying boats didnt use darkstones back then.
Or are those actually elders on the boats

i haven't looked into it but prairie does have an area where there's with some boats in it
there are some boats docked in water in the first few gated areas of forest too, but i'm not sure if they're the same boats
i just watched a vid about surviving a krill. is it me or i heard a mechanical noise (ch-ching) when the krill went red?
I hear a ominous bell, like one that's rung on the hour
There’s actually quite a few boats in sky seen without the use of power diamonds
Idk what explanation to give to it
But I simply said they used MAGIC
but then what do they need the elders for ? 
Wdym what do they need the elders for?
They simply worshipped them and admired them
They fell to the ground and a civilization was built with the help of the elders
I’m sure each elder played a key role in the lore
so they’re just. useless ?
they came down and advanced the civilization using science from orbit
That’s actually a pretty cool idea
That they used ideas from their original home and incorporated them into building the civilization on the sky world
But I jus got confused on what u said like how the ancestors “used them” and “needed them” as if they were an accessory. Rather than a celestial being that they chose to admire
yea
and also brought the light since they thought that the sky people needed it, however eventually they started hoarding it
Pretty sure light existed before the elders fell tho
They valued it and even harvested it on their own without elders manually giving it to them
If they did that, there wouldn’t be a need to make the power diamonds in the first place
If they can jus bring light outta nowhere and manually hand it to ppl
wait hold on i’m confused
well yes there’s a reason for power diamonds, to do more than just « give ppl light to Do Stuff »
I mean there’s a theory that they chose to “fall” to thrive on the sky world and build their civilization there. But if the intro rlly is telling the truth, the elders didn’t intend to fall to help the ancestors
im doing this in the mind control theory presupposition, where the elders stole the light
Ooohh head canon
yeah akshdhf
My bad go ahead 
Oooo
But if u are doing a head canon it’s up to you to make the details of the story
If u ask other ppl questions that don’t know about ur ideas on UR story, then we will jus b confused.
The krill sounds mechanical to me 
Who would the elders have stolen the light from?
Who else, megabirb
mmetabird
megan
Megan
Ah
That is if the megabird is in game 
Maybe light existed way before but the Elders brought the knowledge on how to manipulate it?
Megabird may be no longer a physical entity due to theft
Lile in Avatar! (The last airbender) if I remember correctly some creatures taught people the ancient art of bending
Ye
In the intro, the only high deity of light that we kno is canon is the person in the middle of the elders at the intro
The hinted “child of light” by the devs, and it’s likely to be that person
Maybe they were the ones who discovered that knowledge, hence why they're revered as Elders
Referred?
like, worshipped
In the intro, the only high deity of light that we kno is canon is the person in the middle of the elders at the intro
The hinted “child of light” by the devs, and it’s likely to be that person
@sly kestrel didn't the skykid have a connection to the Shiny Bois??
Mostly because I don't have any new ideas yet. This season is Manta Life cycle mostly
OH? Enlighten me plz

The king is finally confirmed canon 
Yes
look at this theory
Ash
OH MY GOOOD

Ahhh I’ll dm you, brick is tryna talk



