#lore-discussion-spoilers

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short owl
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Hi Boon

zealous sedge
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Hello null!

short owl
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I love how you say that all cheerful like I'm innocent

hushed steeple
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Is anyone innocent here?

zealous sedge
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Seemingly not 👀sLaugh

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How far do I have to read back is the question? When did your propaganda discussion begin? sLaugh

hushed steeple
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Uhhh, long before my theories

gray bridge
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it all started with golden wasteland...

short owl
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It was at least yesterday that the memes were posted

hushed steeple
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King propaganda is everywherepFIRE

gray bridge
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the beginning goes a few weeks back actually pEyes

zealous sedge
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To be fair, the king statues have always interested me and I sat quietly through a lot of king denial, just biding my time.

gray bridge
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i hope the essay that is being typed right now will change your mind

short owl
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Mind control megabird was yesterday though

hushed steeple
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King propaganda is everywhere, we cannot escape it

thorn spade
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ok i have a question

hushed steeple
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Hmm it answered one of my question .. when I play sky it's like someone always is watching me... Maybe the king from those propagandas👀

thorn spade
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so basically prince is against birb right- but why does prince want to restore birb mind control

short owl
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He doesn't. We were just lied to by a mins controlled isle elder

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We were not immune to propoganda

thorn spade
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ah yes

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p r o p a g a n d a

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long live king propaganda

kind bobcat
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what happened here

thorn spade
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but that means king is good right- but why did he cause destruction?? is it bc he later became craving for power

kind bobcat
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No, he just sucks at being king.

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In my opinion.

short owl
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King made a bad decision in trying to purge the light used by megabird to control people

kind bobcat
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no

short owl
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The light is nessasary to live

lethal stump
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So our theory starts with the narrator being unreliable, especially if they’re megabird and biased against the prince/king (who will be called Alef for simplicity). We made a connection between the story of lucifer and Alef, thinking that megabird, much like old testament God, did not want to give free will to the people of sky and rather control and plan their destinies for them. Alef is against this and thus is kicked out of orbit down to the world of sky. The elders soon follow, since they agree with him.
The 7 of them make it their goal to rid the kingdom of Megabird’s control. This starts with Alef stealing the light and bringing it down to the kingdom, with the power of which they can make the Eden Diamond. Without the light, Megabird is weak, and their powers are weak too which means that their control is not as strong. For a time, the kingdom is free from Megabird’s grasp.
However the light grows to overpower the elders, in their hubris and fight against God they cause the storm. This leads to famines and battles and destruction, and eventually the death of everyone in the kingdom. The light returns to Megabird and using their powers, they banish the elders out of space time, but not Alef. Using the theory of mind-body dualism, he’s put into a new body and most of his memories wiped, and tasked to return the light to the elders, which does nothing but give megabird control of them.
When the elders are given the lights, few of them truly  accept  it. Teth (forest) bashes it with a hammer then turns it into a power source rather than taking it for herself. Samekh (valley elders) literally punt it into the air. Ayin (prairie) turns it into a butterfly. Lamed (vault) has it put in a diamond and yote into the sky.
they know the light is bad, but in the end they are forced to accept it or else face even more isolation.

thorn spade
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aaaaaah i get it

lethal stump
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conclusion: the elders were trying to do good, as was Alef. He’s not as bad as others may say. he just kinda. messed up every now and then like everyone does

kind bobcat
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So

thorn spade
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thank uuu for the summary

lethal stump
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i hope boon sees this, idk if they’re still here pEyes

kind bobcat
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Megabird is bad?

lethal stump
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yes

gray bridge
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in the theory yes, also claps

kind bobcat
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This

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Is beyond lore

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this is a conspiracy

short owl
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Also wasteland yote it as well

thorn spade
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Y O T E the light

hushed steeple
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Isn't megabird god?

thorn spade
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bad god in sky

delicate coral
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But like... why is megabird bad?

kind bobcat
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Wasteland literally used it on his spear.

lethal stump
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imo any god is bad but we won’t get into that

kind bobcat
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So basically

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the elders doubted megabirb

thorn spade
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but god made us exist and if we dont exist then there will be no grocery stores nooooo

kind bobcat
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And became free

thorn spade
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baaaad birb :(

kind bobcat
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h e a t h e n s

hushed steeple
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I have a question
Is sky realm flat or round?

delicate coral
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Wow you really like grocery stores

thorn spade
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Wow you really like grocery stores
@delicate coral they are the ESSENTIALS of life

short owl
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@lethal stump nice summary btw

lethal stump
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thank

delicate coral
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Sky realm appears to have curvature if you fly up in orbit

hushed steeple
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For the sake of argument

thorn spade
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@lethal stump nice summary btw
@short owl brick did it to spread the propaganda. long live propaganda

hushed steeple
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I see NO curve

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The world is flat

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If light is not good then I'm not going to do candle runs anymore
I'll stay with those lovely dark creatures

short owl
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Think we lost Boon tho

lethal stump
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nOoooo

thorn spade
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BUT WITHOUT CANDLE RUNS ME POOR

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me want hair

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me want harp;;

hushed steeple
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I want the table!

delicate coral
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@delicate coral they are the ESSENTIALS of life
@thorn spade 🤷‍♂️ I can’t argue with that SkyLOL

hushed steeple
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But...I'm pretty poor...so...yeah

thorn spade
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@thorn spade 🤷‍♂️ I can’t argue with that SkyLOL
@delicate coral grocery stores good

lethal stump
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i wanna @ boon but i don’t wanna get yelled at for @ ing a mod

short owl
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Boon come back!

hushed steeple
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We have lost our chance

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BoonieSkyDontGo

lethal stump
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i have it screenshotted so they can see it now

short owl
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let us convert you

hushed steeple
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Good

lethal stump
hushed steeple
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Yesssss

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I was about to suggest that

delicate coral
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Actually maybe worth bringing up now since this... uh... ‘megabird bad’ theory has popped up

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This was in the concept art for wasteland:

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Appears to be megabird carved into a mountain in GW

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Possibly significant here

zealous sedge
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I am here. I had to nip to elsewhere for a few minutes

lethal stump
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BOON IS TYPING

hushed steeple
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IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED MEGABIRB BAD!

lethal stump
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maybe the rebellion army carved that into the mountain cause they wanted megabird back pEyes

hushed steeple
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Or maybe megabirb is so full of itself it carved itself into a mountain

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Ya know, to show everyone its power

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Scare em into compliance, "If I can do this do a mountain, just imagine what I'll do to YOU"

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@hushed steeple we all have bad hair days, I have one every day

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Ah ha it also tells why megabird asks us to comeback orbit everytime
The song at credit is like kinda for control our mind

lethal stump
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king had a bad mask day

gray bridge
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ahhh no wonder i listen to the credit song every day to fall asleep..

zealous sedge
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I like that theory. I need to read it over a few times to “dissect” it a little so i understand it. I have my own understanding (incomplete) of what I think happened etc and that isn’t far off. A few distinct differences but overall... it’s good.

hushed steeple
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@hushed steeple maybe Megabirb hated him since he couldn't have a bad hair day

lethal stump
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WE DID IT

hushed steeple
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WE HAVE A NEW KING PROPAGANDIST!

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Praise be the king!!

zealous sedge
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I have trouble with the megabird fitting anywhere other than being a poetic term for the light that regenerates the creatures and skykids. I don’t think it’s a sentient being so to speak.

hushed steeple
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I have trouble with the megabird fitting anywhere other than being a poetic term for the light that regenerates the creatures and skykids. I don’t think it’s a sentient being so to speak.
@zealous sedge
I don't think the Megabirb is sentient either, but it does make sense that the elders would leave the light to try to make their own way

noble ferry
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i have simultaneously gained and lost brain cells reading these crack theories trying to learn about the lore

lethal stump
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megabirb imo is like old testament God but less human

hushed steeple
lethal stump
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is that the actual translation ?

hushed steeple
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Theory tho

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Someone tried

zealous sedge
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Did the elders leave the light or did they try and bend it and mould it to their will?

hushed steeple
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But could be similar with actual

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@lethal stump only old testament God was very sadistic

lethal stump
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exactly, that’s my point, Smoll

hushed steeple
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Did the elders leave the light or did they try and bend it and mould it to their will?
@zealous sedge
Mold it, but I think they came to the earth to try and help?

gray bridge
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i feel that's where we don't really know? did the elders really leave on their own, did they try to tamper with the light and thus darkness came or was this darkness a completely external force?

hushed steeple
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They left the sky and came to the earth

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And then they began to harness the light and use it

round musk
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Did the elders leave the light or did they try and bend it and mould it to their will?
@zealous sedge Both. They became disconnected from the light and instead took light and turned it into darkness

zealous sedge
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They were cast out, weren’t they?

hushed steeple
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Yes

gray bridge
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the order in the intro goes "darkness came, and the stars fell" so darkness came first and then they fell, so uhhh

hushed steeple
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We can see it both ways honestly

lethal stump
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falling biblically speaking is a bad

round musk
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I think it's just general symbolism of the fall of adam and eve

lethal stump
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or lucifer pEyes

round musk
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True

hushed steeple
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So if darkness came, that would mean the humans were the corrupted ones

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NEW TINFOIL HAT THEORY

round musk
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The elders are a lot like angels

delicate coral
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The next line ‘if only they had listened’ indicates to me that they were probably cast out

hushed steeple
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"The darkness come and they fall"
It's kinda vague maybe the actual is
"They knew the truth and leave from here"

delicate coral
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Like yeeting them was the warning

hushed steeple
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What if the humans brought the darkness and the elders came to help

gray bridge
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the thing is that before that listened line, they went down and established their own realms

zealous sedge
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I feel that. I wonder what they did up there. Because the true evil (that we know of, or at least theories of) didn’t happen until they were down here.

hushed steeple
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Yeah

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My guess is this

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What if

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The elders came to help the humans

round musk
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Darkness is only natural in the sense that it evolved naturally out of the byproducts of diamond production

hushed steeple
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Helped them harness the light and turn from darkness

gray bridge
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i think it was their decision to try and use the light to advance civilisation that caused the 'if only they had listened' line to come up

hushed steeple
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But some of the humans still remained corrupted and in the end caused the storm

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Which in turn tool all of the Elders light

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And cast the world into darkness

round musk
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Yeah I think it makes sense that the elders were the main causes of darkness

hushed steeple
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As we can see in Wasteland

round musk
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Humans aren't really portrayed as having dark pasts, whereas the elders are

hushed steeple
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That could be it

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They sinned by trying to help the humans

round musk
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In spirit memories humans always look so innocent

hushed steeple
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Angles are allowed to love humans, but never become attached to them

gray bridge
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this is what i think
megabird/whoever's up there, to the elders: nooooo you can't overuse the light when you go down there
civilisation after elders introduced light to them: haha power diamonds go brrr

hushed steeple
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Because when they begin developing feelings for them, it's when they fall

zealous sedge
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See as far as I understand it, the elders used the creatures to manufacture their diamonds to power their industry. When they used too much, the light creatures revolted and turned against the elders. Battles occurred which culminated in a big war and battle in Eden where the elders tried to flee, and the giant power diamond exploded which corrupted the lands and the creatures who were caught in the blast (creating the crabs and krill).

hushed steeple
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That's a good theory boon

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My theory involves the elders trying to save what little land they could before the storm and sending it up in the sky

round musk
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Krill and crabs already existed before the blast though, assuming that's what caused the extinction of humans

hushed steeple
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In many ways, it would make a lot of sense if humans became corrupted

gray bridge
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i think the gigantic fart of the eden diamond killed everyone though

zealous sedge
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I think some spirits took on the fight along with the light creatures.

hushed steeple
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If we look at today's humans and all throughout history, we see that humans can easily become corrupted

delicate coral
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What about the crabs in forgotten ark, they have a mural that shows the water being drained and then the crabs revolting

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Which suggests the opposite

zealous sedge
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What if the mural shows them pouring corruption into the water, and the crabs emerging from that poison water??

hushed steeple
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is megabird real or

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nah

delicate coral
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Potentially

round musk
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Megabird is just called The Light now from what I understand

gray bridge
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you can see the megabird in orbit and in credits so maybe

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i don't know about the murals in ark,, maybe they're dumping whatever corrupted water they got from the storm or something

hushed steeple
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:00

gray bridge
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thing is that the light is the title of your friend constellation

delicate coral
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Oh yeah the water levels are decreasing, not increasing

round musk
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The friend constellation is titled The Light because it's the "realm" that skykids are most associated with

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All the other titles like that are realm names

lethal stump
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maybe that’s what Eden used to be called when it housed the Eden Diamond pEyes

zealous sedge
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There doesn’t seem to be concrete evidence one way or the other, over whether the dark creatures existed before or after the boom. I don’t think either theory is incorrect. Both have solid merit and it’s really fun to explore both ideas.

delicate coral
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I can for sure agree with that haha

round musk
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Imo Megabird=Orbit=The Light

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Orbit is just the light but shown as a physical place

hushed steeple
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I am developing a new theory, and I will die on this hill now

zealous sedge
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I never noticed before yesterday that in orbit there are mantas flying into the light portal at the end where your skykid runs to rebirth.

delicate coral
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Yeah I only noticed that on my last Eden run too

round musk
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Yeah creatures get reborn too

lethal stump
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everything gets reborn
except it seems the elders can’t be, aside from Alef pEyes

zealous sedge
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Mhmm! The elders did something bad enough to deny them the right/ability to use that portal. They are stuck. Gosh that’s so sad to think about.

lethal stump
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elders have been going crazy in isolation for ages before the game starts imo

round musk
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I think it's more likely that the elders are so powerful that, when connected to the light, they can regularly move between worlds

zealous sedge
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I prefer to think they are stuck in a perpetual loop, and unaware of the vast expanse of time passing.

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Yeah! Outside the realm of existence. I like that

round musk
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When we connect them to the light we free them from their cage outside of space and time

lethal stump
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and re-cage them under megabird’s mind control

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i feel like the valley elders perpetually argue/fight, like they do in the cutscene

opaque rune
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I second that

round musk
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I think the valley elders appear to be in good spirits but in reality they're hiding the pain of their mistakes

brittle gust
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Isle - Guider
Prairie - Collector
Forest - Creator
Valley - Athlete
Waste - Knight
Vault - Scholar

lethal stump
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do you have siblings

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i don’t even see mine often and i know if i had to live with them for centuries we’d be at each other’s throats

short owl
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I suspect they try to hide their feelings by trying to upkeep their realm and an image of grandeur. And probably do have some fun along the way

brittle gust
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Vault cut scene seems like has a continuation

short owl
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But also lean heavily on spirits and sports to remain in good spirits

brittle gust
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Or like every cut scene has like continuation

round musk
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If you think about Valley as a whole, it's whole deal is that it profited and benefited from the other realms' corruption, choosing to do nothing to stop the other realms out of selfishness

short owl
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It looks like valley was built to house many though. I think they may have been disconnected simply because they had so many od their own to worry about

round musk
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So it would make sense if the valley elders represent denial, and they only know how to avoid their problems

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So the valley elders are stuck in an endless loop of running from their problems until they learn to face their mistakes

lethal stump
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that or they’re ignorant to the problems

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since they represent young adulthood, i.e., new and trying

mortal viper
round musk
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Ignorance is a choice

mortal viper
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what is going in here?

brittle gust
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Everything will make sense once the reason of the corruption will be unfold.

round musk
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We're discussing the valley elders and what they have to deal with as punishment

hushed steeple
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This is my latest theory.

What if the Elders are the constellations themselves, their jod is to watch over humanity and help those who need to be reborn.
But like always, humans become corrupted, bringing darkness to the lands of light. Concerned they decide to fall to the human world and create their own lands, in an effor to help the humans harness the light again and banish the darkness from the lands. They help them build technology and so on, while at the same time creating the things they themselves could not. Like the Eye of Eden, a source of infinite power.
Only this will backfire on them, humans will become more and more greedy, seeking more and more, corrupted they will start a war against the elders, taking their light as they go through each zone, only when they reach the eye the corruption from them themselves and the light from the elders will cause the eye to explode causing the storm.
Knowing what will happen, the apocalypse, the elders took the few humans who still followed them and used what was left of their powers to push pieces of their land into the sky, away from the corruption that will take over the rest.
Sky children were then born of the light, with their only mission being to try to save the eye and with it stop the storm, only non of them succeeded and so, their new mission became to save the spirits of the followers, bring hope back to the elders and return them back home and save the kids who were lost in a futile effort to save what cannot be saved.

gray bridge
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citadel though, there were scholars there studying the night sky. armillary sphere looks like the light ball sphere in orbit, maybe they knew of what happened with the elders and were trying to find a way to get back?

mortal viper
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@round musk, you people know how to make this dark

hushed steeple
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To conclude my new theory, the elders sin was loving humans and giving them the tools they needed to harness the light

short owl
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Like sure... They may know about trouble brewing in light production, but also people need houses. There's limited ground space. Air space is the best available option.

Yeah, there are problems in food production. Guess what? People still need to eat.

If it's cold, people need to he warm.

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Valley has the simple issue of people needing things. That won't and can't change, so it becomes harder to help other realms

round musk
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It is canon that the elders were initially supposed to represent a sort of past generation where the new generation has to make up for their mistakes

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And then they changed it to make the elders more sympathetic and complicated

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But the basic idea still stands: the elders were the origin of darkness, and we have to spread light in their wake

tiny ocean
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What if the krills aren't bad, but they were gaurding the large power diamond to stop the elders from creating chaos, but they failed, and since sky kids work with the elders, they target us

gray bridge
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i think that was a good call, it doesn't put light as automatically good or bad and the same goes for darkness

hushed steeple
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But it doesn't make sense that the elders are sad and need light then

terse gust
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Elder are dead

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No ?

hushed steeple
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No

round musk
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No

lethal stump
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elders are removed from spacetime, they’re still alive

brittle gust
lethal stump
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nom

short owl
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I don't think either darkness or light is inherently bad. Megabirb may be tho

lethal stump
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pure one or the other is bad

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pure light is bad, pure darkness is bad

brittle gust
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Is he eating the orb or chanting on it?

round musk
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I think you're missing the point of what light and darkness represent

hushed steeple
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But sky kids are made of both light and dark

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Which means the Megabirb knew what it was doing when creating us

round musk
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No skykids are basically all light

hushed steeple
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There is a saying, wherever there is good there must also be bad

round musk
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Our souls are made of winged light

brittle gust
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Sky kids are hybrid

hushed steeple
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Yes, but our souls are literally half darkness half light

lethal stump
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what about at the end of eden when we split into dark and light ? the two are equal and must accept each other

round musk
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Yes, but our souls are literally half darkness half light
@hushed steeple How so?

tiny ocean
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Like how in the begining of orbit, a dark and light child merge into one

hushed steeple
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@hushed steeple How so?
@round musk
End scene after we die, we see our two halves, a light and dark child hug each other and form us

brittle gust
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what about at the end of eden when we split into dark and light ? the two are equal and must accept each other
@lethal stump
What I think of that is The Light we are hugging is the Light dedicated on us and was waiting for us to go comeback after sacrifing the light we collect from the land

round musk
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I always assumed that was just our neutral body reconnecting with its soul

lethal stump
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i think it’s two halves of us reconnecting after dying

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afterall, in the concepts we are  hybrids 

brittle gust
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Like we have our own light but they cannot come to the land as well so they separate from us and wait for us to comeback

hushed steeple
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I would also like to say that the Megabirb is made out of light, but it resides in perpetual darkness, space

lethal stump
hushed steeple
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So in a way it balances itself out

gray bridge
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thing is when we die, there's the same black particles that are around our body

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not sure if that's just eden things or legit

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something like the dark stuff on crabs and maybe krills

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or that's just the absence of light in our body lol

brittle gust
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Aren't Winged Lights just borrowed lights to return them into the Orbit?

hushed steeple
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I think it's the darkness of that half

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Yes they are @brittle gust

round musk
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Imo winged light are the scattered bits of the king's soul

hushed steeple
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We use them to save those who have fallen before us

round musk
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We have to bring them to orbit so the final star is reconnected with the light

brittle gust
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So they arent our true Light and our true Light is the one waiting for us the one we hug when we die

round musk
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Nah the child we hug is just a winged light that was given to us by another skykid

hushed steeple
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Imo winged light are the scattered bits of the king's soul
@round musk
That would make sense, the king was in Eden, it would make sense that he would be the only one to explode and turn into pure light

gray bridge
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the light kiddo is always the same height as us though o:

brittle gust
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We are already shattered we don't stay in eden

terse gust
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Can u Ask a question

lethal stump
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shoot

terse gust
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What the link with journey ?

gray bridge
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there's no link lore-wise

round musk
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We kinda are just winged light taken a physical form, and our "dark" half is just our body and basic motor functions but without light or a soul

hushed steeple
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They are different games, the only link is, the same company made them

round musk
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There are some links in the general concepts and symbolism, but not in the direct lore

hushed steeple
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Well, the games are similar in the way they are made, a post apocalyptic world and death in the end

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I think they like stuff like that

short owl
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Soo you know how the elders are in spacetime limbo? Are we sure we're not trapped in a time loop? Are we being punished in a similar way?

lethal stump
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that’s been my theory from the beginning, Null

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we (Alef) have to relive our broken kingdom over and over and over again

round musk
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Like for example we can use journey as evidence of sorts that there was a civil war in sky, cause there was a civil war in journey too so it would make sense if they just transferred the idea into a different game

short owl
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Or are we being rewarded in a way they are punished? Granted eternity in a small space and time where we get to play bongos and pianno and make friends we never theoretically have to lose

brittle gust
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Journey and Sky are different they already told that

lethal stump
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imo since sky is solo, lore-wise, it’s a punishment

round musk
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Yeah but we can see what ideas tgc already had that they could have used again in sky

brittle gust
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Nah the child we hug is just a winged light that was given to us by another skykid
@round musk
We can't receive Winged Lights once shattered

round musk
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Wdym by shattered

brittle gust
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When u die in eden you are shattered and will turn blue light

round musk
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Might just be a gameplay mechanic

short owl
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@lethal stump it may be solo lore wise... But if it's solo with copies of ourselves then maybe not so much?

lethal stump
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@lethal stump it may be solo lore wise... But if it's solo with copies of ourselves then maybe not so much?
@short owl wdym  solo with copies of ourselves 

hushed steeple
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Like for example we can use journey as evidence of sorts that there was a civil war in sky, cause there was a civil war in journey too so it would make sense if they just transferred the idea into a different game
@round musk
That's what I'm saying, it isn't unusual for a artist, writer or developer to use the same concept in their other works

short owl
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Like if we exist, but like 8 versions of us (in different points in our reruns) could be in the same place at a time

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So there are 8 of the same person at a time

brittle gust
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Might just be a gameplay mechanic
@round musk
If it is they could've turn the player into a stone and cut scene to the hugging of light

round musk
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We see all our friends plus like hundreds of other skykids in orbit, so I doubt it's solo

lethal stump
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Like if we exist, but like 8 versions of us (in different points in our reruns) could be in the same place at a time
@short owl theres a term for this but i don’t remember, but yeah that would work. Lore wise though I don’t think that we can interact with others, they’re at most a ghost of sorts

gray bridge
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different timelines?

lethal stump
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yeah !

round musk
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That doesn't hold true to the very essence of the game though. I doubt they would design the lore without incorporating the main point of the game, which is altruism and helping one another

lethal stump
#

but what about the part where we help the elders when we have nothing to stand to gain aside from dying over and over ?

round musk
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If you think of the fallen skykids as ones who have died trying to save other skykids, then it makes more sense

lethal stump
#

i think of it as past timelines tbh

round musk
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We're just trying to help each other get to orbit

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There isn't really a point to the game if it's all separate timelines lore-wise

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We're just dying over and over for no reason

lethal stump
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except to be punished pEyes

short owl
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Maybe this is a training ground of sorts. At some point megabird realized that the elders had a problem because they never grew up before falling. They were just expected to be Adults from the beginning.

This may be how we are growing up. Granted spirits and access to the elders in their loops so they can teach us what they know, and given incentive to learn altruism, trade, and sacrifice

round musk
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I actually love that theory

lethal stump
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oo

round musk
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I think in a way though we're kind of teaching the elders a lesson instead of the other way around

lethal stump
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i think all of us are trying to learn/be taught a lesson

round musk
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We're reminding them that they can still learn how to be selfless

short owl
#

For helping the spirits whom remain, the megabird gives the elders a second chance (since the spirits are able to show that the elders have both their and your favor), or at least a break.

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If you get them all... Well that's a reward not in the game yet, but it may be a long term release, since the elders are probably not willing to leave until they all can.

lethal stump
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until they all can
pEyes pEyes pEyes pEyes pEyes

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all

short owl
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@lethal stump oh no...
You're right
The king

lethal stump
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aka us

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until we realize who we are...the elders can never be free...

round musk
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AND WHEN WE HUG THE COL AT THE END WE REALIZE WHO WE ARE

lethal stump
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not necessarily
the elders are still trapped, even if we collect their ultimates
because The Prince, The King, Alef, all the same person, he is still stuck being reborn and living an endless loop

short owl
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I mean I'm glad I went from conspiracy to wholesome but this is sad

lethal stump
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i love sad, angsty stories.
I am the epitome of Hidden Forest

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Uhhhhh off topic but, i realized there's another elemental orb that restores bells. It's not the same colors as elemental orbs from Enchantment. So...new elemental orb?
@hushed steeple which orb ?

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they aren’t elemental though...they seem a bit more like « light »

round musk
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I think the king is stuck in an endless cycle of death and rebirth as a way to show that there are some mistakes that can't be fixed fully, but you have to keep trying nonetheless

lethal stump
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love that you used Hatsune Miku as a comparison

short owl
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What if the ultimate gift is that the elders leave their loops and a new version of each area (one more full of life and less full of damage) becomes available

lethal stump
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would we have to save ourselves, then ?

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WOULD WE GET TO FACE RESH LIKE THE CONCEPTS ?!!

short owl
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We would already be saved

lethal stump
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then how do we do that pSquint

short owl
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It's not about stopping the distruction at that point, just rebuilding

lethal stump
#

but wait, wouldn’t that just put the same guy in charge ? i mean, if we save the elders and ourself (return to prince) and then start rebuilding the kingdom...that’s a recipe for disaster

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yeet the king

short owl
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While we have learned a lot that would make us more fit to lead, there's no guarantee that we would be the leaders

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@lethal stump Megabird does regularly

lethal stump
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the elders weren’t much better though, they messed up too
no one in this case is fit to lead aside from the people themselves

short owl
#

Anywho... Maybe the new governmebt will be a council style government

lethal stump
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governmebt

short owl
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No king to rule, just people making the world turn

lethal stump
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problem arises when everyone is dead

gray bridge
#

o quick question: is the eden diamond still exploding when we die and when all the kids we rescued fly up with us

lethal stump
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elders and prince: *restored *
lamed: so what do we do now :> ?
us, prince: i dunno...I didn’t think i’d get this far...

brittle gust
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o quick question: is the eden diamond still exploding when we die and when all the kids we rescued fly up with us
@gray bridge
Its still exploding maybe like in next Sky chapter a resolution will occur

gray bridge
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aw yeah, sky 2: electric boogaloo

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pls continue sorry for interrupting

brittle gust
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Hahahahhaah

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When will we get the answeeeeeers?!!!!

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If we know the reason of the corruption we will know what happened to the elders and others

lethal stump
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the diamonds caused the downfall of the civilization, which is presumably the corruption/darkness

south sluice
#

Read this translated form of the credit song ... It's kinda demonic
@hushed steeple I'm sorry to interrupt like this, because I can't catch up with more +400 messages but where does this poem come from?

lethal stump
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end credits song, it’s a fan translation

south sluice
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There're lyrics?

lethal stump
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yes

south sluice
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Huh

gray bridge
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just an interpretation of it

south sluice
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ooh ok!

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Thank you

lethal stump
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no problème friend

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i think, if sky ever « ends » and we somewhat restore the kingdom, the elders don’t need to lead they need therapy

gray bridge
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thinking about sky ending is sad

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but hey it's been mentioned that there's still stuff to be added to the realms like valley and gw, more lore content for us coming up soon hopefully SkyYay

lethal stump
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i swear to eden they bETTER ADD TO VALLEY

short owl
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Ye... It is sad. But it may be a situation where one thing ends and another begins

gray bridge
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second chapter of sky pWow

lethal stump
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sky 1: save the elders and deliver the light !
sky 2: therapy

gray bridge
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@lethal stump YES PLS AAAAA there's a lot of potential

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yeah i think they need group therapy

lethal stump
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i love valley so much but it’s so plain rn pCry

hushed steeple
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Well, hopefully next month they'll also release the switch version

short owl
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I hope we can find cry's friends

hushed steeple
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I'm hoping some of the old versions of the zones will be used there

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The videos I watched of the beta are very cool

gray bridge
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since there's cross-platform play i think switch might be getting same stuff as mobile tho

hushed steeple
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I'm hoping it's like Animal crossing, similar concept but different in gameplay and everything else

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Since a phone game can never compete with a console game

short owl
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Idk... Sky kinda challenges that

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If Sky were console, not nearly as many could play

hushed steeple
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So far sky is the only game that is good

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Yes and no

lethal stump
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im definitely making a  therapy  comic based on the joke

hushed steeple
#

There are people who will specifically buy a switch to play the game

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Much like with AC

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And while the game is great, it still needs to be able to run on most phones

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So content has to be cut down

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Which is why most phone games are trash

short owl
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Buut that may not work in all countries. Nor does it allow players without a lot of moneys to play

hushed steeple
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Yes

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But just like AC there is a mobile version that those with not a lot of money can play

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The two games are however completely different

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That may not be the same with this game

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But it would be quite insulting to ask for €60 for a game you can play for free on phone

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Which is why I'm assuming they'll add more content

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Or the game won't be €60

lethal stump
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i think they’d try to make it free

short owl
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I would not be surprised if switch playes got betrer graphics

hushed steeple
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Yes but paying even €15 for better graphics kinda is ehhh

short owl
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@hushed steeple if cry is also dead then there's still a chance!

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At least for two of them!

hushed steeple
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People will still pay it to support the Devs, it's still insulting when you can it for free on phone

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At the very least I hope they'll add the beginning zone

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Which leads to the new starter zone and has a very elaborate tutorial

gray bridge
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we don't know the prices yet tho, but i think it should be free unless nintendo something something

gilded fossil
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/yall 90% of Vietnamese has never seen a console

gray bridge
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i've never had a console either, i only have a famicom SkyLOL

hushed steeple
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we don't know the prices yet tho, but i think it should be free unless nintendo something something
@gray bridge
I'm certain it'll be with money, they wouldn't develop a console game and give it out for free, they need to eat too

gray bridge
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we have derailed quite a bit from lore eh

lethal stump
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i just watched a video and the people in it have the exact masks of vault

hushed steeple
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Lore vise, the beta version before also had a better explanation of things

gilded fossil
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/ye okay what part then?

lethal stump
hushed steeple
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Including a bot that explained stuff for you

short owl
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Yeah but I think they trimmed on purpose

gilded fossil
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/which lore are we talking about?

short owl
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And that created the megabird mind control theory

hushed steeple
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Which is why I'm thinking that will be added to the console one

gray bridge
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i think they did the same with journey where they basically stripped down the game lore so that it wasn't all in your face

hushed steeple
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Since not a lot could have been added to a phone game without causing your system to die

lethal stump
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the king in eden was removed bc of mobile restraints iirc

hushed steeple
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the king in eden was removed bc of mobile restraints iirc
@lethal stump
IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED TCG DOESNT WANT US TO KNOW ABOUT THE KING!!

lethal stump
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??

gilded fossil
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/what king?

lethal stump
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he’s in game though

short owl
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@lethal stump WHERE

gray bridge
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like we can't meet meet king

lethal stump
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the statues in wasteland lol

gray bridge
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but he's around as propaganda statues

hushed steeple
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But no one knows the statues are of him

brittle gust
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the king in eden was removed bc of mobile restraints iirc
@lethal stump
What were the restraints about?

hushed steeple
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Unless someone tells them

lethal stump
gray bridge
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Unless someone tells them
@hushed steeple ahh yeah i didn't hear of any king or megabird or power diamond when i first came here and was so confused as a lore moff i still am a lore moff

lethal stump
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@lethal stump
What were the restraints about?
@brittle gust it was going to be hard to have this big, high poly character constantly moving and doing animations which interact with the player on any graphics setting, i’d imagine

gilded fossil
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/but if they ever made console, will the king be console exclusive?

gray bridge
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that mural of the king towering over red dead sky kids would probably haunt me in my sleep if it was left in live stickerGloomy

brittle gust
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Sad honk

lethal stump
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not likely

hushed steeple
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@hushed steeple ahh yeah i didn't hear of any king or megabird or power diamond when i first came here and was so confused as a lore moff i still am a lore moff
@gray bridge
Proof, those of us who are newer to the game never saw the old murals of him, which is why we never heard of him before

gilded fossil
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/and what role will the king serve? eden elder?

strong plume
#

||So I have been thinking about something. The storyline of Sky is about how we're supposed to collect all this light and bring it back up into the heavens. But then you are reborn and all the lights you so tirelessly collected and brought back are back in their original spots. Plus the whole thing about weekly Eden resets. And all the darkness that you burn away, but resets every day. Is this just a practical matter of the game having something for you to keep doing? Or does it somehow fit into the lore of the game? Something about there being endless amount of darkness? Even with millions of children burning this stuff away daily, and trying to heard these wing lights back home weekly? Or a statement in hope and futility?||

lethal stump
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i doubt TGC would make anything exclusive for any specific OS

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if they wanted to add the king, they would add it across platforms

short owl
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it... May be possible to get the king back, but that will take serious optimization considerations

brittle gust
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i doubt TGC would make anything exclusive for any specific OS
@lethal stump
Right cause the general chat will be flooded with complaints

hushed steeple
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||So I have been thinking about something. The storyline of Sky is about how we're supposed to collect all this light and bring it back up into the heavens. But then you are reborn and all the lights you so tirelessly collected and brought back are back in their original spots. Plus the whole thing about weekly Eden resets. And all the darkness that you burn away, but resets every day. Is this just a practical matter of the game having something for you to keep doing? Or does it somehow fit into the lore of the game? Something about there being endless amount of darkness? Even with millions of children burning this stuff away daily, and trying to heard these wing lights back home weekly? Or a statement in hope and futility?||
@strong plume
I'm pretty sure it's for us to have something to do, all multiplayer games do this, it would be quite boring if there are no repeats

short owl
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Probably start with a tiny map

hushed steeple
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The game itself basically ends once you finish Eden, the rebirth is there for you to continue playing it

gray bridge
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ahh the age-old gameplay mechanic vs lore dilemma

hushed steeple
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But it could be a lore thing as well

gilded fossil
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/the repeat is usually answred with "bc video games"

strong plume
#

MikaMika you've got an interesting questions there.

Also no need to spoiler tag, this is a spoiler channel anyway.
unless u just want to
@hushed steeple Thanks. Wasn't sure, since it does talk about the details of Eden.

gilded fossil
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/like all the other games lol

hushed steeple
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I'm going purely by other games that do this WoW being one I'm most familiar with

strong plume
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But i hope it's more than just "because video games"

lethal stump
#

So I have been thinking about something. The storyline of Sky is about how we're supposed to collect all this light and bring it back up into the heavens. But then you are reborn and all the lights you so tirelessly collected and brought back are back in their original spots. Plus the whole thing about weekly Eden resets. And all the darkness that you burn away, but resets every day. Is this just a practical matter of the game having something for you to keep doing? Or does it somehow fit into the lore of the game? Something about there being endless amount of darkness? Even with millions of children burning this stuff away daily, and trying to heard these wing lights back home weekly? Or a statement in hope and futility?
@strong plume there is a theory that this is a punishment, so it’s meant to be a loop, to constantly repeat as we repent for messing everything up (the theory is that we’re the king, the « bad guy »)

hushed steeple
#

You save a village, stop a burning house, but the fire continues for others

strong plume
#

we are an entire different species created to right the wrongs of the ancients

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so it's not even our fault

gilded fossil
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/eden always exisst, and its not like we can burn eden

hushed steeple
#

King propagand

lethal stump
#

King propaganda is my specialty

strong plume
#

i actually find it a little frustrating that the wing lights keep going back to the exact spots

hushed steeple
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@lethal stump we know, and that's why we love you

lethal stump
#

aww

strong plume
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i endured pelting by bright red hot rocks so you can go back home. Why are you back here again?

lethal stump
gilded fossil
#

/hey Brick can you give me some king propaganda?

brittle gust
#

Honk for the King or pKrillBEAN

hushed steeple
#

NOT THE KRILL!!

lethal stump
#

the king was never the bad guy, it was megabird

gilded fossil
#

/ĂŠ ĂŠ ĂŠ

hushed steeple
#

I already get enough heart attacks passing by those oversized shrimp

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@strong plume that's why I'm saying that the game continues because of the multiplayer

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Our rebirth is in a way to allow us to further enjoy the game

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@hushed steeple nightmare fuel

normal berry
#

Hahaha I fear no krill

hushed steeple
#

Why you do this to me?

gilded fossil
#

/also alef in vietnamese sky communities is wasteland elder

gray bridge
#

krills still give me breathing problems when i'm near any sqwarlockDed

hushed steeple
lethal stump
normal berry
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#makeskyscarier

hushed steeple
#

I'm keeping this forever and ever

normal berry
#

My favorite image here is the king propaganda meme

hushed steeple
#

@hushed steeple why are you trying to give me nightmares?

short owl
#

KRILL IN FOREST?! NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE

strong plume
#

The twitter posts this past week, makes me think the lore isn't clear to the creators either

normal berry
#

Krill in ISLE

gray bridge
#

they definitely have a solid lore down in order to add stuff to the game that won't clash with co-existing stuff

gilded fossil
#

The twitter posts this past week, makes me think the lore isn't clear to the creators either
@strong plume /whaaaaat!

hushed steeple
#

@hushed steeple I can't sleep
@hushed steeple
I'll be joining you

brittle gust
#

The twitter posts this past week, makes me think the lore isn't clear to the creators either
@strong plume
Those are just past concepts

normal berry
#

I only fear one thing

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Bees

hushed steeple
#

@strong plume I'm sure they have a concept, they are changing things. The game was and still is in beta phases, which means that many things as we know them may change in the future

gilded fossil
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/okay what if the krill dress like a bee

hushed steeple
#

But the main concept will always stay the same

gray bridge
#

ktjn mentioned that the lore has been established so i don't think we need to worry, we just have to keep scavenging for lore crumbs when we get em

normal berry
#

Still wont be scared because it's just a game

hushed steeple
#

We are sent to shepherd spirits and help our fallen brethren return home

gilded fossil
#

/yall know why the wastland elder has a sun on his shiel tho?

turbid spade
#

ďżźďżźhow about krill at home? it would be an interesting experiment

hushed steeple
#

@hushed steeple sure, come to me, and watch as the turrets laser beams us
@hushed steeple
If you are talking about krill, I will not join you, I have plenty of heart attacks as is

normal berry
#

Also eden gives me the spooky vibes and I LOVE IT

gray bridge
#

i still can't get the red mural of the king over the dead sky kids out of my head sqwarlockDed

gilded fossil
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ďżźďżźhow about krill at home? it would be an interesting experiment
@turbid spade /ooooh halloween theme

normal berry
#

i still can't get the red mural of the king over the dead sky kids out of my head sqwarlockDed
@gray bridge where is this I wanna see pEyes

hushed steeple
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@gray bridge that's the ONLY reason I see him as a bad guy

gilded fossil
#

@gray bridge where is this I wanna see pEyes
@normal berry /meeee etooooooo

brittle gust
#

ďżźďżźhow about krill at home? it would be an interesting experiment
@turbid spade
It has but not in home

hushed steeple
#

But, how?! Isn't he supposed to be before the skids?

gray bridge
lethal stump
#

i still can't get the red mural of the king over the dead sky kids out of my head sqwarlockDed
@gray bridge no need to worry ! That’s just anti-king propaganda, everything is fine, they’re just sleeping to the sounds of the rain :>

  • Brick, Senior Propaganda Officer
hushed steeple
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@hushed steeple I am talking about turrets, not krills
@hushed steeple
Then yes, I am fine with it

strong plume
#

The futility I feel is that, the world is the same when you return. You have more candles (selfish goal), but the world is no safer or better. Feels like a statement of the times we are living in. Where there are people working to try to make the world better, but there's still so much war and hate and stupidity.

gilded fossil
#

/aaaaaaaaaaa

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The futility I feel is that, the world is the same when you return. You have more candles (selfish goal), but the world is no safer or better. Feels like a statement of the times we are living in. Where there are people working to try to make the world better, but there's still so much war and hate and stupidity.
@strong plume /but we have more knowledge now

hushed steeple
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@gray bridge it really is, but!! What if they aren't skids?

brittle gust
#

Turrets might be long range and quick attack

normal berry
#

Now I dont see the king as a bad guy, nor do I see any of the elders. I think the idea is that they wernt evil but were kinda full of themselves, so they made the mistake of creating the eden diamond and have to pay the price

turbid spade
#

@turbid spade
It has but not in home
@brittle gust really?

gilded fossil
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/turrets be like have own theme that bops like zelda

short owl
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@strong plume but the world is a lil better. Sure, spirits are still reliving memories, but they also gather somewhere safe. They are no longer alone

brittle gust
#

@brittle gust really?
@turbid spade
Yup in the office Halloween event

strong plume
#

All we need is one jerk already testing positive with COVID to decide to go to a party anyway...

brittle gust
#

In early concept arts Turrets shoot bullet likes once spotted a Sky kid

gilded fossil
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/can we beat the turrets tho?

hushed steeple
#

Brick, what if the King isn't an elder and is actually a human?! stickerShock

gray bridge
#

no matter which aspect of the world you focus on i think it's how you respond and bring about change that actually matters (i forgot what i was responding to but why am i going deep into this-)

strong plume
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turrets and bullets reminded me of the ancient machines in Zelda BOTW

hushed steeple
#

@gray bridge it's for the feels

short owl
#

Maybe the king was a local who accidentally absorbed an elder

brittle gust
#

Oh

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I think it beam instead

normal berry
#

Smh should had more dark creatures

lethal stump
#

Maybe the king was a local who accidentally absorbed an elder
@short owl you’re just the crack theory man aren’t you ?

hushed steeple
#

Maybe the king was a local who accidentally absorbed an elder
@short owl
That's actually really interesting

gilded fossil
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/nice

short owl
#

Not a man but yes

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Crack theories are fun

#

Most dead end quickly

hushed steeple
#

Smoll look! The octopus kelp!
@hushed steeple
I CURSE WHOEVER CREATED THAT THING!!

lethal stump
#

heck
we need pronoun roles i swear to eden

gilded fossil
#

/wait, but why no elder have wings

normal berry
#

Interesting how groups of crabs would attack a player

hushed steeple
#

I CURSE THAT ARTIST!!

brittle gust
#

/wait, but why no elder have wings
@gilded fossil
Wings are for weak? SkyLOL

hushed steeple
#

Evil!!

humble barn
#

please don't

hushed steeple
#

Oversized shrimp is enough

gilded fossil
#

/but they have hair?

normal berry
#

Yeah please dont actually curse the artist SkyLOL

gray bridge
#

i don't think they had a need for wings tbh because b o a t s

short owl
#

The elders aren't allowed to fly. Only their spirits can bypass this, and only with great effort.

hushed steeple
#

Well, I hope they stub their toe for it, but not curse curse them

brittle gust
#

Turrets are cute tho, until it beams the Light out of you.

gilded fossil
#

/pettitoon to hug the turret

turbid spade
#

the spider thingy reminds me of Limbo

gray bridge
#

man turrets are breathtaking huh

gilded fossil
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/i wish we can like, light them once their down, and they wil be our friends

humble barn
#

imo the spidery elder was far more creepy

gilded fossil
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/looks like a roache

brittle gust
#

Is this... a bunny? Insect?
@hushed steeple
Sky kid flying away SkyLOL

gilded pilot
#

Defiantly agree on adding more dark creatures. Want something more to be scared of. we have a big boy in the sky now we need a big and quick creature on the ground. Perhaps under the sand and you can see it charging?

gilded fossil
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No not the orange one, the grey one
@hushed steeple /the dust?

brittle gust
#

A fish rabbit bettle?

gray bridge
#

i mean, i guess it would be nice if we had more dark creatures, but i think i'd really go breathless if i had more to worry about in-game

#

also that thing looks like a rabbit-fish-tortoise hybrid and i think it is very cute

humble barn
gilded pilot
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yessss

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give me that creature

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I want it sprinting

brittle gust
#

i mean, i guess it would be nice if we had more dark creatures, but i think i'd really go breathless if i had more to worry about in-game
@gray bridge
I mean if they put more creatures they need to think how can Sky kids defend without fighting

lethal stump
#

that was originally Tsadi was it not ? the name is cropped out though

turbid spade
#

s...sprint?! no!

lethal stump
#

since the elders were originally animals

short owl
#

What if calm turrits with crab

gilded fossil
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/yo good idea

humble barn
#

The name Tsadi was apparently on a different sheet of paper so I cropped it out but I think the spider was Tsadi

lethal stump
#

thank goodness we got wasteland uncle and not...that

humble barn
lethal stump
#

EVEN WORSD THAN YOU

gilded pilot
#

GIVE ME

short owl
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Hand spider we have to lead into an area filled with historical items and get it to remember who it was

gray bridge
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i'm getting reminded of that octopus from ff

hushed steeple
#

CURSED

turbid spade
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EYESpFIRE pEyes

short owl
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Oh wait it's tsadi

humble barn
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👁️ I👁️ 👁️see 👁️ you👁️ 👁️

lethal stump
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if that was what tsadi looked like
what was the animal concept for the king pFIRE

gilded pilot
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We need to add more creatures like this! It would be cool and bring I think the world to life and defiantly add more questions as to like WHY IS THIS HERE?

short owl
#

How do we force him put of war mode hmmm

humble barn
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yeah bicycle and a TV and

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pipes?

brittle gust
humble barn
#

that guy reminds me of River God in Spirited Away

short owl
#

Twins could be defeated by high speed flying into the game ending bell

gray bridge
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is it that one with the face and the flooding

chilly kestrel
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i love hands spider

hushed steeple
#

Y'all always confuse me but im interested and i barely understand a thing

short owl
#

Sort of a GAME OVER CHILL OUT that reminds them who they are bc it's so familiar

gray bridge
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~~ernesto dela cruz style getting crushed by a bell pFIRE ~~

hushed steeple
#

What did I missedpFIRE

sly kestrel
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Nothing

brittle gust
lethal stump
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Honk

hushed steeple
#

I want to know who the king is-

humble barn
#

⛩

hushed steeple
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If the j is silent then it's "ay"

short owl
#

Oooh I know

sly kestrel
#

Memories

heady sinew
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Wouldn't it be Ay?

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Like, ayyyy

short owl
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Stopping Tsadi could be a game of dressup

hushed steeple
#

Yea

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Ig

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Autocorrect always fails mestickerGloomy

short owl
#

You have to make yourself a medic

hushed steeple
#

I'm about to lose Internet soon and I'll miss the theories again. F

brittle gust
gilded pilot
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aaa I want more lore on the game's creatures aaaa

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Or like the old concept art to be brought back and revamped into the game

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I really dig the wastelands

brittle gust
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Or like the old concept art to be brought back and revamped into the game
@gilded pilot
We'll never know

hushed steeple
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Yes I also want that octopi concept in game

gilded pilot
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it's a mystery

hushed steeple
gilded pilot
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maybe next year

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yessss

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need a season based in eden for those brave souls

hushed steeple
#

If children of light are made of light and they "eat" winged light. Are they cannibals

brittle gust
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Sky is still developing and still 1 year old so yeah

turbid spade
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the king is really coool! i want to meet himpFIRE .
imagine we have a sword fight with the kingpWow

lethal stump
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we are the king pFIRE

hushed steeple
#

Someone tell me who's the king

humble barn
#

me

brittle gust
#

Meets the King
King: *Bashed

short owl
#

ABSORB

hushed steeple
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And how did he end up here

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What is he doing pFIRE

gilded pilot
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He looks like he needs a hug

humble barn
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mystery but he got corrupted

hushed steeple
#

Everyone gets corrupted 🤩

lethal stump
#

He looks like he needs a hug
@gilded pilot originally we were going to save him so yes, he does need a hug

hushed steeple
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Bad king bad king bad king bad king

lethal stump
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no !!!

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good king !

gilded pilot
#

I agree

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bad king

turbid spade
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NO HE NEEDS HUG. MUST HUG THE KINGstickerHug

hushed steeple
#

So we're the king?

gilded pilot
#

I like giving him a hug. But I like the more corrupt characters

hushed steeple
#

So skykids badpFIRE

brittle gust
lethal stump
#

c u t e

short owl
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@hushed steeple not on purpose

gilded pilot
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thin spaghetti noodle krill

hushed steeple
#

You made krill look scarier

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The skykid hiding said " I did not sign up for this"

gray bridge
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would like to take this moment to thank tom zhao for his concept art because it is beautiful + a whole gold mine

hushed steeple
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I feel like the Devs were trying to make a mini horror game

gilded pilot
#

yessss

humble barn
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The skykid hiding said " I did not sign up for this"
@hushed steeple that's me when I visited wasteland for the first time

gilded pilot
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give me horror

lethal stump
#

original concepts were definitely PG-13

hushed steeple
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And then they remembered the game was for phone and kids don't really care if it says 18+

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Horror games are 18+?

gilded pilot
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maybe one day they will be able to add more sections to the wasteland to balance out all the nice realms for the you better have friends to help you survive realms

hushed steeple
#

Many are

celest spoke
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Oh boy just imagine Dark Sanctuary cutscenes (no geta spoilers afaik, just spex based on season so far):

lil cute creb bebbes playing
young neutral crebs
Increasingly bigger and more angy creb
MEGACREB

short owl
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So any theories as to why we can only walk, not run out of Orbit?

humble barn
hushed steeple
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@short owl I think it's because we are finally at peace

humble barn
#

I was able to fly out of the orbit today

lethal stump
#

the concepts would make that less mild SkyLOL

hushed steeple
#

Imagine if relams had day and night and at night krills and crabs appear everywhere

brittle gust
gilded pilot
#

that would be awesome

hushed steeple
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@humble barn whoever rated that game 9+ wants to traumatise kids

brittle gust
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Sadly its old concept art

short owl
#

I mean maybe it's coroline style horror

humble barn
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@hushed steeple you mean TGC

short owl
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Parents fear but kids just excite

turbid spade
#

eden traumatizes me

hushed steeple
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Yeah, but this game doesn't have that

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Unless you do Eden

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But even Eden stops being scary after 2 gos

gilded pilot
#

Eden isnt all that scary really.

hushed steeple
#

Tgc making eden "death loop, nothing else. Oh and candles"

gilded pilot
#

I could see it being scary with more horror themes into it

hushed steeple
#

It can be scary

lethal stump
#

sky needs to be scarier

gilded pilot
#

but jsut a bunch of rocks flying around and big krils flaoting about

hushed steeple
#

But this game definitely isn't scary

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Yes

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Scary sky scary sky scary sky

gilded pilot
#

^

short owl
#

Moffs are deffinately scared

turbid spade
#

oh im still trembling and sweaty at my fourth go

brittle gust
#

2nd Area of Eden is the only scary one

gilded pilot
#

Need that hand spider

hushed steeple
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@short owl well, they are generally scared cause they lose everything they worked hard for

gilded pilot
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or weird ambient calls in the background

short owl
#

Last stretch is really rough.

brittle gust
#

I'm excited for next season

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Maybe more lores next season

hushed steeple
#

But, I don't see how this game has horror, while the krill are scary, they're scary because of what they do to you, not because of what they are

humble barn
#

krill sounds scary

lethal stump
#

hoping for more lore in the next season...

hushed steeple
#

^

short owl
#

As shown by all the I WANNA RIDE ITs

celest spoke
#

Biggest fear I have is getting moths krilled in wasteland/Eden cuz I use krill shield but they don’t know it and try to follow me anyway

hushed steeple
#

Oh my gods!!

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A season where new dark creatures appear would be nice

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Biggest fear I have is getting moths krilled in wasteland/Eden cuz I use krill shield but they don’t know it and try to follow me anyway
@celest spoke
I once tried to help a moth, I even explained to them what they had to do to pass the last krill in Eden, and they still tried to follow me

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I was so annoyed because I ended up getting krilled because of them

brittle gust
#

I'm really soft for helpless moth tbh

hushed steeple
#

And several times even after honking and indicating NOT to open the door in Wasteland they did so anyway and I almost got krilled

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I help anyone who goes through Eden

celest spoke
#

Ya, I’ve tried dashing down from the last hallway to show moths the timing but they just see the physical path and don’t take rock/krill timing into account at all

hushed steeple
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Moths are scary

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They really are

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They just rush through the game

lethal stump
#

i never meet other people in eden ngl

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idk why but my experience with sky was always very lonely

gilded pilot
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When I meet moths in eden I just watch them go

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good luck little ones

lethal stump
#

few people around in the realms with me

celest spoke
#

I usually plant a table in the gap and hang out for a while out of sight

lethal stump
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only time i made a friend was in wasteland to help me understand shipwreck
other than that it was me going « i have to get to the end and beat the game » since at the time i didn’t know you couldn’t « beat » it

hushed steeple
#

I usually plant a table in the gap and hang out for a while out of sight
@celest spoke
You are a life saver then, I can't wait to get the table to do that

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I knew it was gonna be open world when I saw multiplayer

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So I was in no rush

celest spoke
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Watch the wind direction and don’t stick to the wall there

hushed steeple
#

But my gods do people who don't listen to me annoy me, I'm trying to help you by thors hammer,listen to me!!

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I waste candles unlocking chat with them for no reason

gilded pilot
#

Same, If they dont listen to me and almost get me hit by a krill, I purposely fly them into one to feel my pain.

celest spoke
#

Table is great for battlefield— set up near big plant, explain where to start on it, tell them about jumping thru temple gate

hushed steeple
#

I love the table

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But I'm poor

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Same, If they dont listen to me and almost get me hit by a krill, I purposely fly them into one to feel my pain.
@gilded pilot
I just leave, and then honk near them

celest spoke
#

Sad can’t play music while carrying tho

hushed steeple
#

I hope they have sound on so I make their ears bleed

potent gate
celest spoke
#

Oop lore

Actually came in to recheck elder names/realms but forgot

hushed steeple
#

We're all out of fresh lore atm

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We exhausted all our resources

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We need to find new things to make propagand out of

nova tiger
#

any lore on underground cave?

lethal stump
#

im planning some fan-made propaganda posters, don’t you worry :p

potent gate
celest spoke
#

Forest cave seems confirmed as a mine by new name for cry spirit

lethal stump
#

all of forest seems mining and forging focused

celest spoke
#

Also butterfly jar transport— first courtyard has dock

lethal stump
#

all of the realms work on transporting butterflies up until wasteland where they are infused with diamonds

hushed steeple
#

Someone ping me if there are any new theories and stuff

lethal stump
#

alright

gilded pilot
#

I still like the think the Krills have their own hierarchy system and those closest to edens center are high class and those who are left to wasteland are the lowest class among their kind. Each having some weird and dark language that sounds like dark and low frequency to skykids

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Thats how I see the krills in game

lethal stump
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@hushed steeple new theory come look

gilded pilot
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Like those in eden are the ones who eat well and live longer and the wastelander ones scrap for food and live shorter lives

lethal stump
#

what do they eat aside from skykids ?

gilded pilot
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Crabs and build structures

celest spoke
#

Looking thru concept art and someone prb saw this already but Tsadi (Prairie) was at some point visualized as a spider.... because he catches butterflies???

lethal stump
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Tsadi is wasteland—

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Ayin (Aylin in concepts) is prairie

gilded pilot
#

I think the more powerful krills in eden can shapeshift into skykids and fool them into befriending them and taking to eden only to turn back and devour them or share amongst the others

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but they all have black capes and are faceless

celest spoke
#

Do we really have the identifications hammered down then?

lethal stump
#

we do, there are charts of them lined up and named

short owl
#

@gilded pilot ngl, would aggressively try to friend

lethal stump
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i think one of them was posted on twitter, actually

gilded pilot
#

LOL

short owl
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Would probably try to offer candls as tribute

gilded pilot
#

I think they would bite and eat the hand that tries

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but thats my headcanon for Krills I guess

short owl
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IF KRILLS SHAPE SHIFT AND TRY TO LURE WITH FRIENDSHIP I'M GONNA TWIST IT TO BECOME ACTUAL FRIENDS

gilded pilot
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I think they have no remorse and may spend months being your friend but in the end the entire goal is to eat you regardless

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I think wasteland Krills arent as fancy and will just dive for it. But eden is more refined

lethal stump
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krill go nom

short owl
#

if I can keep them friends for months, I can find a way to satisfy them without being eaten.

gilded pilot
#

LOL

celest spoke
#

Ok, in center top “tsadi” still has a spidery motif; it’s still trackable (necklace/beard) thru further iterations below, where the realm order is more certain

gilded pilot
#

I still have thoughts of the mountains in eden are made of krill's hardened bodies over the centuries and fights for territory and food. Or at least parts of them are in there and then cause whispers and the realm to echo pain

humble barn
celest spoke
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Ya, was considering mochi’s image as ur-Tsadi

gilded pilot
#

Still want this in game

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would be so cool just to see it moving

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or under the sand and you can see its trails of sand coming towards the player

hushed steeple
#

That language would sound weird skbdsk

gilded pilot
#

I think the language sounds like deep grumbles and harsh frequency shrieks. But in eden in order to captivate the player into a trap. It sounds like normal sky kids asking for help

humble barn
#

and Tsadi is considered to be WL elder based on this image I think. maybe there's more

gilded pilot
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or just inaudible to skykids in general if krills could talk

lethal stump
#

trying to read concept art like

gilded pilot
#

I would love a cutscene in WL of the battle that went down lol

hushed steeple
#

They be worshiping sqwarlockDed

lethal stump
#

what does the bottom right say

Ultimate [incomprehensible]
Alef/Resh

humble barn
#

WAIT

hushed steeple
#

Who's Tsadi tho 👀

humble barn
#

so this is prairie?

lethal stump
#

yes

gilded pilot
#

spider good boy

humble barn
#

but it says FACTORY

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and END of DAy

lethal stump
#

unless they switched the names part way through development

humble barn
#

so I captioned this wasteland werngbvfiju

short owl
#

Oh! I have an idea for defeating Tsadi without fighting. No running, no fighting, no flying or crab get mad. You have to offer the light without comming across as preditor, prey, or enemy soldier

hushed steeple
#

Then what would you be

humble barn
#

but it does look like Prairie Elder

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im so confused

hushed steeple
#

A bodyless creature?

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It would still see you as prey or preditor

gilded pilot
#

Sacrifice something to Tsadi to show your commitment

short owl
#

You need to be a neutral creature

hushed steeple
#

Imma sacrifice a moth

gilded pilot
#

do it

humble barn
lethal stump
#
  • heavy confusion *
#

im betting though they just switched the names

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that’s the most likely possibility

humble barn
#

and the appearance?

lethal stump
#

im saying the appearance stays the same/similar, name changes

humble barn
#

but the Aylin (with an umbrella) looks like prairie elder here

lethal stump
#

but the mask is wayyy too different

hushed steeple
#

question is the twins a boy and girl 🤔 XD

lethal stump
#

they’re confirmed to be one guy and one girl, we just don’t know which

hushed steeple
#

oo k

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Who's Aylin

lethal stump
#

i think

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Aylin is prairie elder

hushed steeple
#

the one with the bang like hair is prob the girl lol

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I'm a lore moth😔✊

lethal stump
#

lemme grab y’all the names

hushed steeple
#

moths like light 👀

lethal stump
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Isle: Daleth
Prairie: Aylin
Forest: Teth
Valley: Samekh
Wasteland: Tsadi
Vault: Lamed
Prince/Not Corrupt King: Alef
Corrupt King: Resh

hushed steeple
#

👌

lethal stump
#

these are concept names, it’s uncertain if they’re accurate in canon

hushed steeple
#

They called forest elder Teth. Almost teeth

lethal stump
#

it’s pronounced Tet

hushed steeple
#

Makes sence

#

So both valley elders are called the same?

lethal stump
#

yeah

#

there’s a theory they were one being before splitting

short owl
#

I thought it was confirmed gender might not exist

lethal stump
#

although we have a character named the king pSquint

#

but yeah gender isn’t the same for the elders as it is for the players

humble barn
#

The valley elders were twins from the beginning.

short owl
#

My sky kid still has no gender. Null shall be Null!

lethal stump
#

my skykid identifies strongly with bricks
that is all

humble barn
#

some information from devs livestream on Elders

lethal stump
#

i know it says they’re related but i like the idea of them being datefriends (forest and vault) pCry

humble barn
#

actually I think they're talking about the masks

lethal stump
#

YESSS THEY CAN STILL BE DATEFRIENDS

humble barn
#

The masks of forest and vault elders look similar because <they> are related.

lethal stump
#

the masks themselves ?

humble barn
#

iirc this pronoun was not used, because usually don't use much pronouns in Japanese

lethal stump
#

oh yeah ive heard of that

humble barn
#

I added a comment to <they> and wrote the "motifs of their masks?"

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but maybe I should change "they" to "they/those"

lethal stump
#

that might help
do we know if they’re talking about the elders specifically, or just the masks ?

humble barn
#

Im checking the video rn

lethal stump
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megabird: show me what you have !
alef: the LIGHT
megabird: nO—

im sorry this just came to my brain

humble barn
#

they were talking abut elders' masks

lethal stump
#

ok perfect

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now they can be GAY

#

thank you for affirming this for me mochi

humble barn
#

now im 99% sure the relationship is about the masks

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or like 99.9%. ill change <they> to <those>

lone wigeon
#

Idk if its the right place for this but... why is rain dangerous to Sky kids as it takes their cape energy? We Have many ponds and seas of water in game and they are no harm for us. What if there is something bad in rain. Just like something is wrong with the wasteland water

lethal stump
#

it could be raining polluted water, after all forest was industrial too, kinda

short owl
#

The rain may exist to keep us out. Also I was thinking about WL. If they're imprints of the same child, maybe it's imprints of the prince, going through his kingdom

lethal stump
#

i was thinking the same, Null pEyes

lone wigeon
#

Whats wl

short owl
#

And they may mostly look up because he was shorter than literally everyone

lethal stump
#

i think we share a braincell

lone wigeon
#

Oh

short owl
#

Not looking up at the sky, but at whoever he was talking to at the time

lethal stump
#

oof i wonder what set off sky bot

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m’y message just got deleted

tall vine
#

I think why forest rain is hurtful is because its somehow an acid rain? Poluted water hurts us

lethal stump
#

alef: ow, i wonder why my neck hurts
tsadi, kneeling and still being taller than him: maybe it’s cause you’re a microbe, little man
alef:
alef:
alef: im banishing you

tall vine
#

I thought it was perhaps because of the cold temperature but we're alright in Valley, so its shouldn't be the case

sinful anvil
#

what does the cutscenes at the end of each realm mean? aka those that show us elders (eg forest elder, valley elder)

lethal stump
#

those happen outside of space and time, it’s us giving them the light

sinful anvil
#

ohh

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so we’re supposed to give them light?

#

kk

#

some of them are not so nice about it

short owl
#

And most just straight up yeet it to the sky

lethal stump
#

skykid: hav lite
valley and vault: how about n o

short owl
#

And forest too

lethal stump
#

skykid: hav lite
forest: * bangs on it with a hammer *

short owl
#

Tho forest is more like LIGHT?! NO! PUNISH LIGHT AND REJECT

sinful anvil
#

is it huge trouble if it’s yeeted to the sky? i hope it doesnt negatively impact what the valley elders are supposed to do with it

apparently they are not supposed to keep the light as Forest uses it to forge

lethal stump
#

well...

normal berry
#

wonder why the king and corrupted king have two different names

short owl
#

Can I request a slight edit to the photo - I know it's kinda selfish but as the one who went off the rails I want proper blame

lethal stump
#

of course dude

#

what do you want me to add ?

short owl
#

Just a mention pls

lethal stump
#

ok 👍

#

does this work ?

normal berry
#

hey dont the twins have two different names?

lethal stump
#

no, it’s just Samekh

normal berry
#

ah

tall vine
#

I like to think they're actually the same entity but splitted when they fell. Thats why they only got one eye and one of their hand look artificial

lethal stump
#

The valley elders were twins from the beginning. It was NOT that they were one person in the past that had been split into halves.
from the devs in the japanese livestream

tall vine
#

Oooh I see

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I thought like that because they only have one name too

lethal stump
#

I think megabird was just being lazy that day SkyLOL

tall vine
#

Actually, what's megabird? I thought it was the bird from Rhythm and someone said its not. I've heard about megabird but never actually know about it

short owl
#

@lethal stump ye it does. Thank you.

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Sorry for delay, was in a call.

#

Maybe the twins were too compeititive to become one from the beginning

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Twins: refuse to befome one
Megabird: YEEEEEEEET

lethal stump
#

megabird is like........their god i guess
that’s how i see it, however they’re like. bigger than a god.

tall vine
#

Like, more powerful than God?

lethal stump
#

yeah

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the abrahamic one, anyways

tall vine
#

Ooh alright. Thank you

lyric isle
#

Then why are the twins under one name?

lethal stump
#

no clue, that’s what we need to figure out

brittle gust
#

It's like Gemini

normal berry
#

actually gemini has two names

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Castor and Pollux

brittle gust
#

But they are still define as one

normal berry
#

eh, depends on the mythology

#

similar to how pisces has two names

brittle gust
#

Valley is like you in 20s, you are in conflict decisions on what you want to be.

simple hare
#

one question

how do i understand what u guys r talking about

lethal stump
#

wdym ?

simple hare
#

like i can't follow the theories

i don't understand the alef and megabird thingy

lethal stump
#

do you know what the king is ?

simple hare
#

nope

#

i'm new to this channel

lethal stump
#

let’s start there !

#

so, there was a ruler of the sky kingdom, the king

#

who was formerly the prince

brittle gust
#

Yeah it's kinda hard to follow too cause topics here kinda changes every second SkyLOL

lethal stump
#

his name is Alef

simple hare
#

ahh oki so thats alef

lethal stump
#

and when he corrupted, he became Resh

#

megabird is, depending on who you ask

  • Biblical god, old testament
  • life, universe, and everything
  • the light
simple hare
#

ahhh

uncut bone
#

Uh isn’t א the wasteland elder?

simple hare
#

so does that mean that the end of eden is... megabird?

lethal stump
#

no, thats ׌

uncut bone
#

Ah yes

lethal stump
#

א is alef

uncut bone
#

Yes

#

Hebrew keyboard

lethal stump
#

makes everything backwards

uncut bone
#

Hebrew writes right to left not left to right

brittle gust
#

Quick show the King Propaganda!

lethal stump
simple hare
#

so that means that the narrator at the beginning is a liar?

#

i'm so confused HAHAHA SORrY

uncut bone
#

Adding you to the list of lore theorists

lethal stump
#

isle: daleth (ד)
prairie: ayin (ע)
forest: teth (ט)
valley: samekh (ץ)
wasteland: tsadi (׌)
vault: lamed (ל)
Prince/Corrupt King: alef/resh (א and ר)

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@simple hare possibly pEyes

simple hare
#

hmm

uncut bone
simple hare
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like wait a sec guys

floral iron
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Woah reading all of this makes me question if we're taking about the same game😂

simple hare
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the narrator is like

darkness came and the stars fell

but in the theory theres told that they got banned from there/left bc they wanted to

short owl
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The narrator is someone telling us things. I pointed out that this someone need not know or be telling the truth

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And then... Things spiraled

lethal stump
simple hare
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am i just stupid or wth idk-

lethal stump
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no it’s ok

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it’s a cracktheory

simple hare
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but the theory is cool pEyes

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i like that theory