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Hello null!
I love how you say that all cheerful like I'm innocent
Is anyone innocent here?
Seemingly not đ
How far do I have to read back is the question? When did your propaganda discussion begin? 
Uhhh, long before my theories
it all started with golden wasteland...
It was at least yesterday that the memes were posted
King propaganda is everywhere
the beginning goes a few weeks back actually 
To be fair, the king statues have always interested me and I sat quietly through a lot of king denial, just biding my time.
i hope the essay that is being typed right now will change your mind
Mind control megabird was yesterday though
King propaganda is everywhere, we cannot escape it
ok i have a question
Hmm it answered one of my question .. when I play sky it's like someone always is watching me... Maybe the king from those propagandasđ
so basically prince is against birb right- but why does prince want to restore birb mind control
He doesn't. We were just lied to by a mins controlled isle elder
We were not immune to propoganda
what happened here
but that means king is good right- but why did he cause destruction?? is it bc he later became craving for power
King made a bad decision in trying to purge the light used by megabird to control people
no
The light is nessasary to live
So our theory starts with the narrator being unreliable, especially if theyâre megabird and biased against the prince/king (who will be called Alef for simplicity). We made a connection between the story of lucifer and Alef, thinking that megabird, much like old testament God, did not want to give free will to the people of sky and rather control and plan their destinies for them. Alef is against this and thus is kicked out of orbit down to the world of sky. The elders soon follow, since they agree with him.
The 7 of them make it their goal to rid the kingdom of Megabirdâs control. This starts with Alef stealing the light and bringing it down to the kingdom, with the power of which they can make the Eden Diamond. Without the light, Megabird is weak, and their powers are weak too which means that their control is not as strong. For a time, the kingdom is free from Megabirdâs grasp.
However the light grows to overpower the elders, in their hubris and fight against God they cause the storm. This leads to famines and battles and destruction, and eventually the death of everyone in the kingdom. The light returns to Megabird and using their powers, they banish the elders out of space time, but not Alef. Using the theory of mind-body dualism, heâs put into a new body and most of his memories wiped, and tasked to return the light to the elders, which does nothing but give megabird control of them.
When the elders are given the lights, few of them truly  accept  it. Teth (forest) bashes it with a hammer then turns it into a power source rather than taking it for herself. Samekh (valley elders) literally punt it into the air. Ayin (prairie) turns it into a butterfly. Lamed (vault) has it put in a diamond and yote into the sky.
they know the light is bad, but in the end they are forced to accept it or else face even more isolation.
aaaaaah i get it
conclusion: the elders were trying to do good, as was Alef. Heâs not as bad as others may say. he just kinda. messed up every now and then like everyone does
So
thank uuu for the summary
i hope boon sees this, idk if theyâre still here 
Megabird is bad?
yes
in the theory yes, also claps
Also wasteland yote it as well
Y O T E the light
Isn't megabird god?
bad god in sky
But like... why is megabird bad?
Wasteland literally used it on his spear.
imo any god is bad but we wonât get into that
but god made us exist and if we dont exist then there will be no grocery stores nooooo
And became free
baaaad birb :(
h e a t h e n s
I have a question
Is sky realm flat or round?
Wow you really like grocery stores
Wow you really like grocery stores
@delicate coral they are the ESSENTIALS of life
@lethal stump nice summary btw
thank
Sky realm appears to have curvature if you fly up in orbit
For the sake of argument
@lethal stump nice summary btw
@short owl brick did it to spread the propaganda. long live propaganda
I see NO curve
The world is flat
If light is not good then I'm not going to do candle runs anymore
I'll stay with those lovely dark creatures
Think we lost Boon tho
nOoooo
I want the table!
@delicate coral they are the ESSENTIALS of life
@thorn spade đ¤ˇââď¸ I canât argue with that
But...I'm pretty poor...so...yeah
@thorn spade đ¤ˇââď¸ I canât argue with that
@delicate coral grocery stores good
i wanna @ boon but i donât wanna get yelled at for @ ing a mod
Boon come back!
i have it screenshotted so they can see it now
let us convert you
Good
if a mod ever comes online
Actually maybe worth bringing up now since this... uh... âmegabird badâ theory has popped up
This was in the concept art for wasteland:
Appears to be megabird carved into a mountain in GW
Possibly significant here
I am here. I had to nip to elsewhere for a few minutes
BOON IS TYPING
IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED MEGABIRB BAD!
maybe the rebellion army carved that into the mountain cause they wanted megabird back 
Or maybe megabirb is so full of itself it carved itself into a mountain
Ya know, to show everyone its power
Scare em into compliance, "If I can do this do a mountain, just imagine what I'll do to YOU"
@hushed steeple we all have bad hair days, I have one every day
Ah ha it also tells why megabird asks us to comeback orbit everytime
The song at credit is like kinda for control our mind
king had a bad mask day
ahhh no wonder i listen to the credit song every day to fall asleep..
I like that theory. I need to read it over a few times to âdissectâ it a little so i understand it. I have my own understanding (incomplete) of what I think happened etc and that isnât far off. A few distinct differences but overall... itâs good.
@hushed steeple maybe Megabirb hated him since he couldn't have a bad hair day
WE DID IT
I have trouble with the megabird fitting anywhere other than being a poetic term for the light that regenerates the creatures and skykids. I donât think itâs a sentient being so to speak.
I have trouble with the megabird fitting anywhere other than being a poetic term for the light that regenerates the creatures and skykids. I donât think itâs a sentient being so to speak.
@zealous sedge
I don't think the Megabirb is sentient either, but it does make sense that the elders would leave the light to try to make their own way
i have simultaneously gained and lost brain cells reading these crack theories trying to learn about the lore
megabirb imo is like old testament God but less human
Read this translated form of the credit song ... It's kinda demonic
is that the actual translation ?
Did the elders leave the light or did they try and bend it and mould it to their will?
But could be similar with actual
@lethal stump only old testament God was very sadistic
exactly, thatâs my point, Smoll
Did the elders leave the light or did they try and bend it and mould it to their will?
@zealous sedge
Mold it, but I think they came to the earth to try and help?
i feel that's where we don't really know? did the elders really leave on their own, did they try to tamper with the light and thus darkness came or was this darkness a completely external force?
They left the sky and came to the earth
And then they began to harness the light and use it
Did the elders leave the light or did they try and bend it and mould it to their will?
@zealous sedge Both. They became disconnected from the light and instead took light and turned it into darkness
They were cast out, werenât they?
Yes
the order in the intro goes "darkness came, and the stars fell" so darkness came first and then they fell, so uhhh
We can see it both ways honestly
falling biblically speaking is a bad
I think it's just general symbolism of the fall of adam and eve
or lucifer 
True
So if darkness came, that would mean the humans were the corrupted ones
NEW TINFOIL HAT THEORY
The elders are a lot like angels
The next line âif only they had listenedâ indicates to me that they were probably cast out
"The darkness come and they fall"
It's kinda vague maybe the actual is
"They knew the truth and leave from here"
Like yeeting them was the warning
What if the humans brought the darkness and the elders came to help
the thing is that before that listened line, they went down and established their own realms
I feel that. I wonder what they did up there. Because the true evil (that we know of, or at least theories of) didnât happen until they were down here.
Darkness is only natural in the sense that it evolved naturally out of the byproducts of diamond production
Helped them harness the light and turn from darkness
i think it was their decision to try and use the light to advance civilisation that caused the 'if only they had listened' line to come up
But some of the humans still remained corrupted and in the end caused the storm
Which in turn tool all of the Elders light
And cast the world into darkness
Yeah I think it makes sense that the elders were the main causes of darkness
As we can see in Wasteland
Humans aren't really portrayed as having dark pasts, whereas the elders are
In spirit memories humans always look so innocent
Angles are allowed to love humans, but never become attached to them
this is what i think
megabird/whoever's up there, to the elders: nooooo you can't overuse the light when you go down there
civilisation after elders introduced light to them: haha power diamonds go brrr
Because when they begin developing feelings for them, it's when they fall
See as far as I understand it, the elders used the creatures to manufacture their diamonds to power their industry. When they used too much, the light creatures revolted and turned against the elders. Battles occurred which culminated in a big war and battle in Eden where the elders tried to flee, and the giant power diamond exploded which corrupted the lands and the creatures who were caught in the blast (creating the crabs and krill).
That's a good theory boon
My theory involves the elders trying to save what little land they could before the storm and sending it up in the sky
Krill and crabs already existed before the blast though, assuming that's what caused the extinction of humans
In many ways, it would make a lot of sense if humans became corrupted
i think the gigantic fart of the eden diamond killed everyone though
I think some spirits took on the fight along with the light creatures.
If we look at today's humans and all throughout history, we see that humans can easily become corrupted
What about the crabs in forgotten ark, they have a mural that shows the water being drained and then the crabs revolting
Which suggests the opposite
What if the mural shows them pouring corruption into the water, and the crabs emerging from that poison water??
Potentially
Megabird is just called The Light now from what I understand
you can see the megabird in orbit and in credits so maybe
i don't know about the murals in ark,, maybe they're dumping whatever corrupted water they got from the storm or something
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thing is that the light is the title of your friend constellation
Oh yeah the water levels are decreasing, not increasing
The friend constellation is titled The Light because it's the "realm" that skykids are most associated with
All the other titles like that are realm names
maybe thatâs what Eden used to be called when it housed the Eden Diamond 
There doesnât seem to be concrete evidence one way or the other, over whether the dark creatures existed before or after the boom. I donât think either theory is incorrect. Both have solid merit and itâs really fun to explore both ideas.
I can for sure agree with that haha
I am developing a new theory, and I will die on this hill now
I never noticed before yesterday that in orbit there are mantas flying into the light portal at the end where your skykid runs to rebirth.
Yeah I only noticed that on my last Eden run too
Yeah creatures get reborn too
everything gets reborn
except it seems the elders canât be, aside from Alef 
Mhmm! The elders did something bad enough to deny them the right/ability to use that portal. They are stuck. Gosh thatâs so sad to think about.
elders have been going crazy in isolation for ages before the game starts imo
I think it's more likely that the elders are so powerful that, when connected to the light, they can regularly move between worlds
I prefer to think they are stuck in a perpetual loop, and unaware of the vast expanse of time passing.
Yeah! Outside the realm of existence. I like that
When we connect them to the light we free them from their cage outside of space and time
and re-cage them under megabirdâs mind control
i feel like the valley elders perpetually argue/fight, like they do in the cutscene
I second that
I think the valley elders appear to be in good spirits but in reality they're hiding the pain of their mistakes
Isle - Guider
Prairie - Collector
Forest - Creator
Valley - Athlete
Waste - Knight
Vault - Scholar
do you have siblings
i donât even see mine often and i know if i had to live with them for centuries weâd be at each otherâs throats
I suspect they try to hide their feelings by trying to upkeep their realm and an image of grandeur. And probably do have some fun along the way
Vault cut scene seems like has a continuation
But also lean heavily on spirits and sports to remain in good spirits
Or like every cut scene has like continuation
If you think about Valley as a whole, it's whole deal is that it profited and benefited from the other realms' corruption, choosing to do nothing to stop the other realms out of selfishness
It looks like valley was built to house many though. I think they may have been disconnected simply because they had so many od their own to worry about
So it would make sense if the valley elders represent denial, and they only know how to avoid their problems
So the valley elders are stuck in an endless loop of running from their problems until they learn to face their mistakes
that or theyâre ignorant to the problems
since they represent young adulthood, i.e., new and trying

Ignorance is a choice
what is going in here?
Everything will make sense once the reason of the corruption will be unfold.
We're discussing the valley elders and what they have to deal with as punishment
This is my latest theory.
What if the Elders are the constellations themselves, their jod is to watch over humanity and help those who need to be reborn.
But like always, humans become corrupted, bringing darkness to the lands of light. Concerned they decide to fall to the human world and create their own lands, in an effor to help the humans harness the light again and banish the darkness from the lands. They help them build technology and so on, while at the same time creating the things they themselves could not. Like the Eye of Eden, a source of infinite power.
Only this will backfire on them, humans will become more and more greedy, seeking more and more, corrupted they will start a war against the elders, taking their light as they go through each zone, only when they reach the eye the corruption from them themselves and the light from the elders will cause the eye to explode causing the storm.
Knowing what will happen, the apocalypse, the elders took the few humans who still followed them and used what was left of their powers to push pieces of their land into the sky, away from the corruption that will take over the rest.
Sky children were then born of the light, with their only mission being to try to save the eye and with it stop the storm, only non of them succeeded and so, their new mission became to save the spirits of the followers, bring hope back to the elders and return them back home and save the kids who were lost in a futile effort to save what cannot be saved.
citadel though, there were scholars there studying the night sky. armillary sphere looks like the light ball sphere in orbit, maybe they knew of what happened with the elders and were trying to find a way to get back?
@round musk, you people know how to make this dark
To conclude my new theory, the elders sin was loving humans and giving them the tools they needed to harness the light
Like sure... They may know about trouble brewing in light production, but also people need houses. There's limited ground space. Air space is the best available option.
Yeah, there are problems in food production. Guess what? People still need to eat.
If it's cold, people need to he warm.
Valley has the simple issue of people needing things. That won't and can't change, so it becomes harder to help other realms
It is canon that the elders were initially supposed to represent a sort of past generation where the new generation has to make up for their mistakes
And then they changed it to make the elders more sympathetic and complicated
But the basic idea still stands: the elders were the origin of darkness, and we have to spread light in their wake
What if the krills aren't bad, but they were gaurding the large power diamond to stop the elders from creating chaos, but they failed, and since sky kids work with the elders, they target us
i think that was a good call, it doesn't put light as automatically good or bad and the same goes for darkness
But it doesn't make sense that the elders are sad and need light then
No
No
elders are removed from spacetime, theyâre still alive
The people knew the King all along and worship him
nom
I don't think either darkness or light is inherently bad. Megabirb may be tho
Is he eating the orb or chanting on it?
I think you're missing the point of what light and darkness represent
But sky kids are made of both light and dark
Which means the Megabirb knew what it was doing when creating us
No skykids are basically all light
There is a saying, wherever there is good there must also be bad
Our souls are made of winged light
Sky kids are hybrid
Yes, but our souls are literally half darkness half light
what about at the end of eden when we split into dark and light ? the two are equal and must accept each other
Yes, but our souls are literally half darkness half light
@hushed steeple How so?
Like how in the begining of orbit, a dark and light child merge into one
@hushed steeple How so?
@round musk
End scene after we die, we see our two halves, a light and dark child hug each other and form us
what about at the end of eden when we split into dark and light ? the two are equal and must accept each other
@lethal stump
What I think of that is The Light we are hugging is the Light dedicated on us and was waiting for us to go comeback after sacrifing the light we collect from the land
I always assumed that was just our neutral body reconnecting with its soul
i think itâs two halves of us reconnecting after dying
afterall, in the concepts we are  hybrids 
Like we have our own light but they cannot come to the land as well so they separate from us and wait for us to comeback
I would also like to say that the Megabirb is made out of light, but it resides in perpetual darkness, space
So in a way it balances itself out
thing is when we die, there's the same black particles that are around our body
not sure if that's just eden things or legit
something like the dark stuff on crabs and maybe krills
or that's just the absence of light in our body lol
Aren't Winged Lights just borrowed lights to return them into the Orbit?
Imo winged light are the scattered bits of the king's soul
We use them to save those who have fallen before us
We have to bring them to orbit so the final star is reconnected with the light
So they arent our true Light and our true Light is the one waiting for us the one we hug when we die
Nah the child we hug is just a winged light that was given to us by another skykid
Imo winged light are the scattered bits of the king's soul
@round musk
That would make sense, the king was in Eden, it would make sense that he would be the only one to explode and turn into pure light
the light kiddo is always the same height as us though o:
We are already shattered we don't stay in eden
Can u Ask a question
shoot
What the link with journey ?
there's no link lore-wise
We kinda are just winged light taken a physical form, and our "dark" half is just our body and basic motor functions but without light or a soul
They are different games, the only link is, the same company made them
There are some links in the general concepts and symbolism, but not in the direct lore
Well, the games are similar in the way they are made, a post apocalyptic world and death in the end
I think they like stuff like that
Soo you know how the elders are in spacetime limbo? Are we sure we're not trapped in a time loop? Are we being punished in a similar way?
thatâs been my theory from the beginning, Null
we (Alef) have to relive our broken kingdom over and over and over again
Like for example we can use journey as evidence of sorts that there was a civil war in sky, cause there was a civil war in journey too so it would make sense if they just transferred the idea into a different game
Or are we being rewarded in a way they are punished? Granted eternity in a small space and time where we get to play bongos and pianno and make friends we never theoretically have to lose
Journey and Sky are different they already told that
imo since sky is solo, lore-wise, itâs a punishment
Yeah but we can see what ideas tgc already had that they could have used again in sky
Nah the child we hug is just a winged light that was given to us by another skykid
@round musk
We can't receive Winged Lights once shattered
Wdym by shattered
When u die in eden you are shattered and will turn blue light
Might just be a gameplay mechanic
@lethal stump it may be solo lore wise... But if it's solo with copies of ourselves then maybe not so much?
@lethal stump it may be solo lore wise... But if it's solo with copies of ourselves then maybe not so much?
@short owl wdym  solo with copies of ourselves 
Like for example we can use journey as evidence of sorts that there was a civil war in sky, cause there was a civil war in journey too so it would make sense if they just transferred the idea into a different game
@round musk
That's what I'm saying, it isn't unusual for a artist, writer or developer to use the same concept in their other works
Like if we exist, but like 8 versions of us (in different points in our reruns) could be in the same place at a time
So there are 8 of the same person at a time
Might just be a gameplay mechanic
@round musk
If it is they could've turn the player into a stone and cut scene to the hugging of light
We see all our friends plus like hundreds of other skykids in orbit, so I doubt it's solo
Like if we exist, but like 8 versions of us (in different points in our reruns) could be in the same place at a time
@short owl theres a term for this but i donât remember, but yeah that would work. Lore wise though I donât think that we can interact with others, theyâre at most a ghost of sorts
different timelines?
yeah !
That doesn't hold true to the very essence of the game though. I doubt they would design the lore without incorporating the main point of the game, which is altruism and helping one another
but what about the part where we help the elders when we have nothing to stand to gain aside from dying over and over ?
If you think of the fallen skykids as ones who have died trying to save other skykids, then it makes more sense
i think of it as past timelines tbh
We're just trying to help each other get to orbit
There isn't really a point to the game if it's all separate timelines lore-wise
We're just dying over and over for no reason
except to be punished 
Maybe this is a training ground of sorts. At some point megabird realized that the elders had a problem because they never grew up before falling. They were just expected to be Adults from the beginning.
This may be how we are growing up. Granted spirits and access to the elders in their loops so they can teach us what they know, and given incentive to learn altruism, trade, and sacrifice
I actually love that theory
oo
I think in a way though we're kind of teaching the elders a lesson instead of the other way around
i think all of us are trying to learn/be taught a lesson
We're reminding them that they can still learn how to be selfless
For helping the spirits whom remain, the megabird gives the elders a second chance (since the spirits are able to show that the elders have both their and your favor), or at least a break.
If you get them all... Well that's a reward not in the game yet, but it may be a long term release, since the elders are probably not willing to leave until they all can.
@lethal stump oh no...
You're right
The king
AND WHEN WE HUG THE COL AT THE END WE REALIZE WHO WE ARE
not necessarily
the elders are still trapped, even if we collect their ultimates
because The Prince, The King, Alef, all the same person, he is still stuck being reborn and living an endless loop
I mean I'm glad I went from conspiracy to wholesome but this is sad
i love sad, angsty stories.
I am the epitome of Hidden Forest
Uhhhhh off topic but, i realized there's another elemental orb that restores bells. It's not the same colors as elemental orbs from Enchantment. So...new elemental orb?
@hushed steeple which orb ?
they arenât elemental though...they seem a bit more like ÂŤÂ light 
I think the king is stuck in an endless cycle of death and rebirth as a way to show that there are some mistakes that can't be fixed fully, but you have to keep trying nonetheless
love that you used Hatsune Miku as a comparison
What if the ultimate gift is that the elders leave their loops and a new version of each area (one more full of life and less full of damage) becomes available
would we have to save ourselves, then ?
WOULD WE GET TO FACE RESH LIKE THE CONCEPTS ?!!
We would already be saved
then how do we do that 
It's not about stopping the distruction at that point, just rebuilding
but wait, wouldnât that just put the same guy in charge ? i mean, if we save the elders and ourself (return to prince) and then start rebuilding the kingdom...thatâs a recipe for disaster
yeet the king
While we have learned a lot that would make us more fit to lead, there's no guarantee that we would be the leaders
@lethal stump Megabird does regularly
the elders werenât much better though, they messed up too
no one in this case is fit to lead aside from the people themselves
Anywho... Maybe the new governmebt will be a council style government
governmebt
No king to rule, just people making the world turn
problem arises when everyone is dead
o quick question: is the eden diamond still exploding when we die and when all the kids we rescued fly up with us
elders and prince: *restored *
lamed: so what do we do now :> ?
us, prince: i dunno...I didnât think iâd get this far...
o quick question: is the eden diamond still exploding when we die and when all the kids we rescued fly up with us
@gray bridge
Its still exploding maybe like in next Sky chapter a resolution will occur
Hahahahhaah
When will we get the answeeeeeers?!!!!
If we know the reason of the corruption we will know what happened to the elders and others
the diamonds caused the downfall of the civilization, which is presumably the corruption/darkness
Read this translated form of the credit song ... It's kinda demonic
@hushed steeple I'm sorry to interrupt like this, because I can't catch up with more +400 messages but where does this poem come from?
end credits song, itâs a fan translation
There're lyrics?
yes
Huh
just an interpretation of it
no problème friend
i think, if sky ever ÂŤÂ ends  and we somewhat restore the kingdom, the elders donât need to lead they need therapy
thinking about sky ending is sad
but hey it's been mentioned that there's still stuff to be added to the realms like valley and gw, more lore content for us coming up soon hopefully 
i swear to eden they bETTER ADD TO VALLEY
Ye... It is sad. But it may be a situation where one thing ends and another begins
second chapter of sky 
sky 1: save the elders and deliver the light !
sky 2: therapy
@lethal stump YES PLS AAAAA there's a lot of potential
yeah i think they need group therapy
i love valley so much but itâs so plain rn 
Well, hopefully next month they'll also release the switch version
I hope we can find cry's friends
I'm hoping some of the old versions of the zones will be used there
The videos I watched of the beta are very cool
since there's cross-platform play i think switch might be getting same stuff as mobile tho
I'm hoping it's like Animal crossing, similar concept but different in gameplay and everything else
Since a phone game can never compete with a console game
im definitely making a  therapy  comic based on the joke
There are people who will specifically buy a switch to play the game
Much like with AC
And while the game is great, it still needs to be able to run on most phones
So content has to be cut down
Which is why most phone games are trash
Buut that may not work in all countries. Nor does it allow players without a lot of moneys to play
Yes
But just like AC there is a mobile version that those with not a lot of money can play
The two games are however completely different
That may not be the same with this game
But it would be quite insulting to ask for âŹ60 for a game you can play for free on phone
Which is why I'm assuming they'll add more content
Or the game won't be âŹ60
i think theyâd try to make it free
I would not be surprised if switch playes got betrer graphics
Yes but paying even âŹ15 for better graphics kinda is ehhh
@hushed steeple if cry is also dead then there's still a chance!
At least for two of them!
People will still pay it to support the Devs, it's still insulting when you can it for free on phone
At the very least I hope they'll add the beginning zone
Which leads to the new starter zone and has a very elaborate tutorial
we don't know the prices yet tho, but i think it should be free unless nintendo something something
/yall 90% of Vietnamese has never seen a console
i've never had a console either, i only have a famicom 
we don't know the prices yet tho, but i think it should be free unless nintendo something something
@gray bridge
I'm certain it'll be with money, they wouldn't develop a console game and give it out for free, they need to eat too
we have derailed quite a bit from lore eh
i just watched a video and the people in it have the exact masks of vault
Lore vise, the beta version before also had a better explanation of things
/ye okay what part then?
itâs like. the same.
Including a bot that explained stuff for you
Yeah but I think they trimmed on purpose
/which lore are we talking about?
And that created the megabird mind control theory
Which is why I'm thinking that will be added to the console one
i think they did the same with journey where they basically stripped down the game lore so that it wasn't all in your face
Since not a lot could have been added to a phone game without causing your system to die
the king in eden was removed bc of mobile restraints iirc
the king in eden was removed bc of mobile restraints iirc
@lethal stump
IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED TCG DOESNT WANT US TO KNOW ABOUT THE KING!!
??
/what king?
heâs in game though
@lethal stump WHERE
like we can't meet meet king
the statues in wasteland lol
but he's around as propaganda statues
But no one knows the statues are of him
the king in eden was removed bc of mobile restraints iirc
@lethal stump
What were the restraints about?
Unless someone tells them
Unless someone tells them
@hushed steeple ahh yeah i didn't hear of any king or megabird or power diamond when i first came here and was so confused as a lore moffi still am a lore moff
@lethal stump
What were the restraints about?
@brittle gust it was going to be hard to have this big, high poly character constantly moving and doing animations which interact with the player on any graphics setting, iâd imagine
/but if they ever made console, will the king be console exclusive?
that mural of the king towering over red dead sky kids would probably haunt me in my sleep if it was left in live 
Sad honk
not likely
@hushed steeple ahh yeah i didn't hear of any king or megabird or power diamond when i first came here and was so confused as a lore moff
i still am a lore moff
@gray bridge
Proof, those of us who are newer to the game never saw the old murals of him, which is why we never heard of him before
/and what role will the king serve? eden elder?
||So I have been thinking about something. The storyline of Sky is about how we're supposed to collect all this light and bring it back up into the heavens. But then you are reborn and all the lights you so tirelessly collected and brought back are back in their original spots. Plus the whole thing about weekly Eden resets. And all the darkness that you burn away, but resets every day. Is this just a practical matter of the game having something for you to keep doing? Or does it somehow fit into the lore of the game? Something about there being endless amount of darkness? Even with millions of children burning this stuff away daily, and trying to heard these wing lights back home weekly? Or a statement in hope and futility?||
i doubt TGC would make anything exclusive for any specific OS
if they wanted to add the king, they would add it across platforms
it... May be possible to get the king back, but that will take serious optimization considerations
i doubt TGC would make anything exclusive for any specific OS
@lethal stump
Right cause the general chat will be flooded with complaints
||So I have been thinking about something. The storyline of Sky is about how we're supposed to collect all this light and bring it back up into the heavens. But then you are reborn and all the lights you so tirelessly collected and brought back are back in their original spots. Plus the whole thing about weekly Eden resets. And all the darkness that you burn away, but resets every day. Is this just a practical matter of the game having something for you to keep doing? Or does it somehow fit into the lore of the game? Something about there being endless amount of darkness? Even with millions of children burning this stuff away daily, and trying to heard these wing lights back home weekly? Or a statement in hope and futility?||
@strong plume
I'm pretty sure it's for us to have something to do, all multiplayer games do this, it would be quite boring if there are no repeats
Probably start with a tiny map
The game itself basically ends once you finish Eden, the rebirth is there for you to continue playing it
ahh the age-old gameplay mechanic vs lore dilemma
But it could be a lore thing as well
/the repeat is usually answred with "bc video games"
MikaMika you've got an interesting questions there.
Also no need to spoiler tag, this is a spoiler channel anyway.
unless u just want to
@hushed steeple Thanks. Wasn't sure, since it does talk about the details of Eden.
/like all the other games lol
I'm going purely by other games that do this WoW being one I'm most familiar with
But i hope it's more than just "because video games"
So I have been thinking about something. The storyline of Sky is about how we're supposed to collect all this light and bring it back up into the heavens. But then you are reborn and all the lights you so tirelessly collected and brought back are back in their original spots. Plus the whole thing about weekly Eden resets. And all the darkness that you burn away, but resets every day. Is this just a practical matter of the game having something for you to keep doing? Or does it somehow fit into the lore of the game? Something about there being endless amount of darkness? Even with millions of children burning this stuff away daily, and trying to heard these wing lights back home weekly? Or a statement in hope and futility?
@strong plume there is a theory that this is a punishment, so itâs meant to be a loop, to constantly repeat as we repent for messing everything up (the theory is that weâre the king, the ÂŤÂ bad guy )
You save a village, stop a burning house, but the fire continues for others
we are an entire different species created to right the wrongs of the ancients
so it's not even our fault
/eden always exisst, and its not like we can burn eden
King propaganda is my specialty
i actually find it a little frustrating that the wing lights keep going back to the exact spots
@lethal stump we know, and that's why we love you
aww
i endured pelting by bright red hot rocks so you can go back home. Why are you back here again?

/hey Brick can you give me some king propaganda?
Honk for the King or 
NOT THE KRILL!!
/ĂŠ ĂŠ ĂŠ
I already get enough heart attacks passing by those oversized shrimp
@strong plume that's why I'm saying that the game continues because of the multiplayer
Our rebirth is in a way to allow us to further enjoy the game
@hushed steeple nightmare fuel
Hahaha I fear no krill
Why you do this to me?
/also alef in vietnamese sky communities is wasteland elder
krills still give me breathing problems when i'm near any 
#makeskyscarier
I'm keeping this forever and ever
My favorite image here is the king propaganda meme
@hushed steeple why are you trying to give me nightmares?
KRILL IN FOREST?! NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE
The twitter posts this past week, makes me think the lore isn't clear to the creators either
Krill in ISLE
they definitely have a solid lore down in order to add stuff to the game that won't clash with co-existing stuff
The twitter posts this past week, makes me think the lore isn't clear to the creators either
@strong plume /whaaaaat!
@hushed steeple I can't sleep
@hushed steeple
I'll be joining you
The twitter posts this past week, makes me think the lore isn't clear to the creators either
@strong plume
Those are just past concepts
@strong plume I'm sure they have a concept, they are changing things. The game was and still is in beta phases, which means that many things as we know them may change in the future
/okay what if the krill dress like a bee
But the main concept will always stay the same
ktjn mentioned that the lore has been established so i don't think we need to worry, we just have to keep scavenging for lore crumbs when we get em
Still wont be scared because it's just a game
We are sent to shepherd spirits and help our fallen brethren return home
/yall know why the wastland elder has a sun on his shiel tho?
ďżźďżźhow about krill at home? it would be an interesting experiment
@hushed steeple sure, come to me, and watch as the turrets laser beams us
@hushed steeple
If you are talking about krill, I will not join you, I have plenty of heart attacks as is
Also eden gives me the spooky vibes and I LOVE IT
i still can't get the red mural of the king over the dead sky kids out of my head 
ďżźďżźhow about krill at home? it would be an interesting experiment
@turbid spade /ooooh halloween theme
i still can't get the red mural of the king over the dead sky kids out of my head
@gray bridge where is this I wanna see
@gray bridge that's the ONLY reason I see him as a bad guy
@gray bridge where is this I wanna see
@normal berry /meeee etooooooo
ďżźďżźhow about krill at home? it would be an interesting experiment
@turbid spade
It has but not in home
But, how?! Isn't he supposed to be before the skids?
it's from beta and it's so creepy shdjdn
i still can't get the red mural of the king over the dead sky kids out of my head
@gray bridge no need to worry ! Thatâs just anti-king propaganda, everything is fine, theyâre just sleeping to the sounds of the rain :>
- Brick, Senior Propaganda Officer
@hushed steeple I am talking about turrets, not krills
@hushed steeple
Then yes, I am fine with it
The futility I feel is that, the world is the same when you return. You have more candles (selfish goal), but the world is no safer or better. Feels like a statement of the times we are living in. Where there are people working to try to make the world better, but there's still so much war and hate and stupidity.
/aaaaaaaaaaa
The futility I feel is that, the world is the same when you return. You have more candles (selfish goal), but the world is no safer or better. Feels like a statement of the times we are living in. Where there are people working to try to make the world better, but there's still so much war and hate and stupidity.
@strong plume /but we have more knowledge now
@gray bridge it really is, but!! What if they aren't skids?
Turrets might be long range and quick attack
Now I dont see the king as a bad guy, nor do I see any of the elders. I think the idea is that they wernt evil but were kinda full of themselves, so they made the mistake of creating the eden diamond and have to pay the price
@turbid spade
It has but not in home
@brittle gust really?
/turrets be like have own theme that bops like zelda
@strong plume but the world is a lil better. Sure, spirits are still reliving memories, but they also gather somewhere safe. They are no longer alone
@brittle gust really?
@turbid spade
Yup in the office Halloween event
All we need is one jerk already testing positive with COVID to decide to go to a party anyway...
In early concept arts Turrets shoot bullet likes once spotted a Sky kid
/can we beat the turrets tho?
Brick, what if the King isn't an elder and is actually a human?! 
no matter which aspect of the world you focus on i think it's how you respond and bring about change that actually matters (i forgot what i was responding to but why am i going deep into this-)
turrets and bullets reminded me of the ancient machines in Zelda BOTW
@gray bridge it's for the feels
Maybe the king was a local who accidentally absorbed an elder
Smh should had more dark creatures
Maybe the king was a local who accidentally absorbed an elder
@short owl youâre just the crack theory man arenât you ?
Maybe the king was a local who accidentally absorbed an elder
@short owl
That's actually really interesting
/nice
Smoll look! The octopus kelp!
@hushed steeple
I CURSE WHOEVER CREATED THAT THING!!
heck
we need pronoun roles i swear to eden
/wait, but why no elder have wings
Interesting how groups of crabs would attack a player
I CURSE THAT ARTIST!!
/wait, but why no elder have wings
@gilded fossil
Wings are for weak?
Evil!!
please don't
Oversized shrimp is enough
/but they have hair?
Yeah please dont actually curse the artist 
i don't think they had a need for wings tbh because b o a t s
The elders aren't allowed to fly. Only their spirits can bypass this, and only with great effort.
Well, I hope they stub their toe for it, but not curse curse them
Turrets are cute tho, until it beams the Light out of you.
/pettitoon to hug the turret
the spider thingy reminds me of Limbo
man turrets are breathtaking huh
/i wish we can like, light them once their down, and they wil be our friends
imo the spidery elder was far more creepy
/looks like a roache
Is this... a bunny? Insect?
@hushed steeple
Sky kid flying away
Defiantly agree on adding more dark creatures. Want something more to be scared of. we have a big boy in the sky now we need a big and quick creature on the ground. Perhaps under the sand and you can see it charging?
No not the orange one, the grey one
@hushed steeple /the dust?
A fish rabbit bettle?
i mean, i guess it would be nice if we had more dark creatures, but i think i'd really go breathless if i had more to worry about in-game
also that thing looks like a rabbit-fish-tortoise hybrid and i think it is very cute
i mean, i guess it would be nice if we had more dark creatures, but i think i'd really go breathless if i had more to worry about in-game
@gray bridge
I mean if they put more creatures they need to think how can Sky kids defend without fighting
that was originally Tsadi was it not ? the name is cropped out though
s...sprint?! no!
since the elders were originally animals
What if calm turrits with crab
/yo good idea
The name Tsadi was apparently on a different sheet of paper so I cropped it out but I think the spider was Tsadi
thank goodness we got wasteland uncle and not...that
EVEN WORSD THAN YOU
GIVE ME
Hand spider we have to lead into an area filled with historical items and get it to remember who it was
i'm getting reminded of that octopus from ff
CURSED
EYES

Oh wait it's tsadi
đď¸ Iđď¸ đď¸see đď¸ youđď¸ đď¸
if that was what tsadi looked like
what was the animal concept for the king 
We need to add more creatures like this! It would be cool and bring I think the world to life and defiantly add more questions as to like WHY IS THIS HERE?
How do we force him put of war mode hmmm
World War Crabs
that guy reminds me of River God in Spirited Away
Twins could be defeated by high speed flying into the game ending bell
is it that one with the face and the flooding
i love hands spider
Y'all always confuse me but im interested and i barely understand a thing
Sort of a GAME OVER CHILL OUT that reminds them who they are bc it's so familiar
~~ernesto dela cruz style getting crushed by a bell
~~
What did I missed
Nothing
Honk for the King
Honk
I want to know who the king is-
âŠ
If the j is silent then it's "ay"
Oooh I know
Memories
Stopping Tsadi could be a game of dressup
You have to make yourself a medic
I'm about to lose Internet soon and I'll miss the theories again. F
"I did not sign up for this"
aaa I want more lore on the game's creatures aaaa
Or like the old concept art to be brought back and revamped into the game
I really dig the wastelands
Or like the old concept art to be brought back and revamped into the game
@gilded pilot
We'll never know
Yes I also want that octopi concept in game
it's a mystery

If children of light are made of light and they "eat" winged light. Are they cannibals
Sky is still developing and still 1 year old so yeah
the king is really coool! i want to meet him
.
imagine we have a sword fight with the king
we are the king 
Someone tell me who's the king
me
Meets the King
King: *Bashed
ABSORB
He looks like he needs a hug
mystery but he got corrupted
Everyone gets corrupted đ¤Š
He looks like he needs a hug
@gilded pilot originally we were going to save him so yes, he does need a hug
Bad king bad king bad king bad king
NO HE NEEDS HUG. MUST HUG THE KING
So we're the king?
I like giving him a hug. But I like the more corrupt characters
So skykids bad
This kind of Krill is cute tho
c u t e
@hushed steeple not on purpose
thin spaghetti noodle krill
would like to take this moment to thank tom zhao for his concept art because it is beautiful + a whole gold mine
I feel like the Devs were trying to make a mini horror game
yessss
The skykid hiding said " I did not sign up for this"
@hushed steeple that's me when I visited wasteland for the first time
give me horror
original concepts were definitely PG-13
And then they remembered the game was for phone and kids don't really care if it says 18+
Horror games are 18+?
maybe one day they will be able to add more sections to the wasteland to balance out all the nice realms for the you better have friends to help you survive realms
Many are
Oh boy just imagine Dark Sanctuary cutscenes (no geta spoilers afaik, just spex based on season so far):
lil cute creb bebbes playing
young neutral crebs
Increasingly bigger and more angy creb
MEGACREB
So any theories as to why we can only walk, not run out of Orbit?
@short owl I think it's because we are finally at peace
I was able to fly out of the orbit today
the concepts would make that less mild 
Imagine if relams had day and night and at night krills and crabs appear everywhere
Shining
that would be awesome
@humble barn whoever rated that game 9+ wants to traumatise kids
Sadly its old concept art
I mean maybe it's coroline style horror
@hushed steeple you mean TGC
Parents fear but kids just excite
eden traumatizes me
Yeah, but this game doesn't have that
Unless you do Eden
But even Eden stops being scary after 2 gos
Eden isnt all that scary really.
Tgc making eden "death loop, nothing else. Oh and candles"
I could see it being scary with more horror themes into it
It can be scary
sky needs to be scarier
but jsut a bunch of rocks flying around and big krils flaoting about
^
Moffs are deffinately scared
oh im still trembling and sweaty at my fourth go
2nd Area of Eden is the only scary one
Need that hand spider
@short owl well, they are generally scared cause they lose everything they worked hard for
or weird ambient calls in the background
Last stretch is really rough.
But, I don't see how this game has horror, while the krill are scary, they're scary because of what they do to you, not because of what they are
krill sounds scary
hoping for more lore in the next season...
^
As shown by all the I WANNA RIDE ITs
Biggest fear I have is getting moths krilled in wasteland/Eden cuz I use krill shield but they donât know it and try to follow me anyway
Oh my gods!!
A season where new dark creatures appear would be nice
Biggest fear I have is getting moths krilled in wasteland/Eden cuz I use krill shield but they donât know it and try to follow me anyway
@celest spoke
I once tried to help a moth, I even explained to them what they had to do to pass the last krill in Eden, and they still tried to follow me
I was so annoyed because I ended up getting krilled because of them
I'm really soft for helpless moth tbh
And several times even after honking and indicating NOT to open the door in Wasteland they did so anyway and I almost got krilled
I help anyone who goes through Eden
Ya, Iâve tried dashing down from the last hallway to show moths the timing but they just see the physical path and donât take rock/krill timing into account at all
i never meet other people in eden ngl
idk why but my experience with sky was always very lonely
few people around in the realms with me
I usually plant a table in the gap and hang out for a while out of sight
only time i made a friend was in wasteland to help me understand shipwreck
other than that it was me going ÂŤÂ i have to get to the end and beat the game  since at the time i didnât know you couldnât ÂŤÂ beat  it
I usually plant a table in the gap and hang out for a while out of sight
@celest spoke
You are a life saver then, I can't wait to get the table to do that
I knew it was gonna be open world when I saw multiplayer
So I was in no rush
Watch the wind direction and donât stick to the wall there
But my gods do people who don't listen to me annoy me, I'm trying to help you by thors hammer,listen to me!!
I waste candles unlocking chat with them for no reason
Same, If they dont listen to me and almost get me hit by a krill, I purposely fly them into one to feel my pain.
Table is great for battlefieldâ set up near big plant, explain where to start on it, tell them about jumping thru temple gate
I love the table
But I'm poor
Same, If they dont listen to me and almost get me hit by a krill, I purposely fly them into one to feel my pain.
@gilded pilot
I just leave, and then honk near them
Sad canât play music while carrying tho
I hope they have sound on so I make their ears bleed
Oop lore
Actually came in to recheck elder names/realms but forgot
We're all out of fresh lore atm
We exhausted all our resources
We need to find new things to make propagand out of
im planning some fan-made propaganda posters, donât you worry :p
how about starting with this friendly crab in sanctuary
Forest cave seems confirmed as a mine by new name for cry spirit
all of forest seems mining and forging focused
Also butterfly jar transportâ first courtyard has dock
all of the realms work on transporting butterflies up until wasteland where they are infused with diamonds
Someone ping me if there are any new theories and stuff
alright
I still like the think the Krills have their own hierarchy system and those closest to edens center are high class and those who are left to wasteland are the lowest class among their kind. Each having some weird and dark language that sounds like dark and low frequency to skykids
Thats how I see the krills in game
@hushed steeple new theory come look
Like those in eden are the ones who eat well and live longer and the wastelander ones scrap for food and live shorter lives
what do they eat aside from skykids ?
Crabs and build structures
Looking thru concept art and someone prb saw this already but Tsadi (Prairie) was at some point visualized as a spider.... because he catches butterflies???
I think the more powerful krills in eden can shapeshift into skykids and fool them into befriending them and taking to eden only to turn back and devour them or share amongst the others
but they all have black capes and are faceless
Do we really have the identifications hammered down then?
we do, there are charts of them lined up and named
@gilded pilot ngl, would aggressively try to friend
i think one of them was posted on twitter, actually
LOL
Would probably try to offer candls as tribute
I think they would bite and eat the hand that tries
but thats my headcanon for Krills I guess
IF KRILLS SHAPE SHIFT AND TRY TO LURE WITH FRIENDSHIP I'M GONNA TWIST IT TO BECOME ACTUAL FRIENDS
I think they have no remorse and may spend months being your friend but in the end the entire goal is to eat you regardless
I think wasteland Krills arent as fancy and will just dive for it. But eden is more refined
krill go nom
if I can keep them friends for months, I can find a way to satisfy them without being eaten.
LOL
Ok, in center top âtsadiâ still has a spidery motif; itâs still trackable (necklace/beard) thru further iterations below, where the realm order is more certain
I still have thoughts of the mountains in eden are made of krill's hardened bodies over the centuries and fights for territory and food. Or at least parts of them are in there and then cause whispers and the realm to echo pain
Ya, was considering mochiâs image as ur-Tsadi
Still want this in game
would be so cool just to see it moving
or under the sand and you can see its trails of sand coming towards the player
That language would sound weird skbdsk
I think the language sounds like deep grumbles and harsh frequency shrieks. But in eden in order to captivate the player into a trap. It sounds like normal sky kids asking for help
and Tsadi is considered to be WL elder based on this image I think. maybe there's more
or just inaudible to skykids in general if krills could talk
I would love a cutscene in WL of the battle that went down lol
They be worshiping 
what does the bottom right say
Ultimate [incomprehensible]
Alef/Resh
Who's Tsadi tho đ
so this is prairie?
yes
spider good boy
unless they switched the names part way through development
so I captioned this wasteland werngbvfiju
Oh! I have an idea for defeating Tsadi without fighting. No running, no fighting, no flying or crab get mad. You have to offer the light without comming across as preditor, prey, or enemy soldier
Then what would you be
Sacrifice something to Tsadi to show your commitment
You need to be a neutral creature
do it
this tsadi is missing a leg and so does Aylin
- heavy confusion *
im betting though they just switched the names
thatâs the most likely possibility
im saying the appearance stays the same/similar, name changes
but the mask is wayyy too different
question is the twins a boy and girl đ¤ XD
theyâre confirmed to be one guy and one girl, we just donât know which
lemme grab yâall the names
moths like light đ
Isle: Daleth
Prairie: Aylin
Forest: Teth
Valley: Samekh
Wasteland: Tsadi
Vault: Lamed
Prince/Not Corrupt King: Alef
Corrupt King: Resh
đ
these are concept names, itâs uncertain if theyâre accurate in canon
They called forest elder Teth. Almost teeth
itâs pronounced Tet
I thought it was confirmed gender might not exist
although we have a character named the king 
but yeah gender isnât the same for the elders as it is for the players
The valley elders were twins from the beginning.
My sky kid still has no gender. Null shall be Null!
my skykid identifies strongly with bricks
that is all
i know it says theyâre related but i like the idea of them being datefriends (forest and vault) 
actually I think they're talking about the masks
YESSS THEY CAN STILL BE DATEFRIENDS
The masks of forest and vault elders look similar because <they> are related.
the masks themselves ?
iirc this pronoun was not used, because usually don't use much pronouns in Japanese
oh yeah ive heard of that
I added a comment to <they> and wrote the "motifs of their masks?"
but maybe I should change "they" to "they/those"
that might help
do we know if theyâre talking about the elders specifically, or just the masks ?
Im checking the video rn
megabird: show me what you have !
alef: the LIGHT
megabird: nOâ
im sorry this just came to my brain
they were talking abut elders' masks
now im 99% sure the relationship is about the masks
or like 99.9%. ill change <they> to <those>
Idk if its the right place for this but... why is rain dangerous to Sky kids as it takes their cape energy? We Have many ponds and seas of water in game and they are no harm for us. What if there is something bad in rain. Just like something is wrong with the wasteland water
it could be raining polluted water, after all forest was industrial too, kinda
The rain may exist to keep us out. Also I was thinking about WL. If they're imprints of the same child, maybe it's imprints of the prince, going through his kingdom
i was thinking the same, Null 
Whats wl
And they may mostly look up because he was shorter than literally everyone
i think we share a braincell
Oh
Not looking up at the sky, but at whoever he was talking to at the time
I think why forest rain is hurtful is because its somehow an acid rain? Poluted water hurts us
alef: ow, i wonder why my neck hurts
tsadi, kneeling and still being taller than him: maybe itâs cause youâre a microbe, little man
alef:
alef:
alef: im banishing you
I thought it was perhaps because of the cold temperature but we're alright in Valley, so its shouldn't be the case
what does the cutscenes at the end of each realm mean? aka those that show us elders (eg forest elder, valley elder)
those happen outside of space and time, itâs us giving them the light
ohh
so weâre supposed to give them light?
kk
some of them are not so nice about it
And most just straight up yeet it to the sky
skykid: hav lite
valley and vault: how about n o
And forest too
skykid: hav lite
forest: * bangs on it with a hammer *
Tho forest is more like LIGHT?! NO! PUNISH LIGHT AND REJECT
is it huge trouble if itâs yeeted to the sky? i hope it doesnt negatively impact what the valley elders are supposed to do with it
apparently they are not supposed to keep the light as Forest uses it to forge
wonder why the king and corrupted king have two different names
Can I request a slight edit to the photo - I know it's kinda selfish but as the one who went off the rails I want proper blame
Just a mention pls
hey dont the twins have two different names?
no, itâs just Samekh
ah
I like to think they're actually the same entity but splitted when they fell. Thats why they only got one eye and one of their hand look artificial
The valley elders were twins from the beginning. It was NOT that they were one person in the past that had been split into halves.
from the devs in the japanese livestream
I think megabird was just being lazy that day 
Actually, what's megabird? I thought it was the bird from Rhythm and someone said its not. I've heard about megabird but never actually know about it
@lethal stump ye it does. Thank you.
Sorry for delay, was in a call.
Maybe the twins were too compeititive to become one from the beginning
Twins: refuse to befome one
Megabird: YEEEEEEEET
megabird is like........their god i guess
thatâs how i see it, however theyâre like. bigger than a god.
Like, more powerful than God?
Ooh alright. Thank you
Then why are the twins under one name?
no clue, thatâs what we need to figure out
It's like Gemini
But they are still define as one
Valley is like you in 20s, you are in conflict decisions on what you want to be.
one question
how do i understand what u guys r talking about
wdym ?
like i can't follow the theories
i don't understand the alef and megabird thingy
do you know what the king is ?
letâs start there !
so, there was a ruler of the sky kingdom, the king
who was formerly the prince
Yeah it's kinda hard to follow too cause topics here kinda changes every second 
ahh oki so thats alef
and when he corrupted, he became Resh
megabird is, depending on who you ask
- Biblical god, old testament
- life, universe, and everything
- the light
ahhh
Uh isnât × the wasteland elder?
so does that mean that the end of eden is... megabird?
no, thats ׌
Ah yes
× is alef
makes everything backwards
Hebrew writes right to left not left to right
Quick show the King Propaganda!
so that means that the narrator at the beginning is a liar?
i'm so confused HAHAHA SORrY
Adding you to the list of lore theorists
isle: daleth (×)
prairie: ayin (ע)
forest: teth (×)
valley: samekh (ץ)
wasteland: tsadi (׌)
vault: lamed (×)
Prince/Corrupt King: alef/resh (× and ר)
@simple hare possibly 
hmm

like wait a sec guys
Woah reading all of this makes me question if we're taking about the same gameđ
the narrator is like
darkness came and the stars fell
but in the theory theres told that they got banned from there/left bc they wanted to
The narrator is someone telling us things. I pointed out that this someone need not know or be telling the truth
And then... Things spiraled

am i just stupid or wth idk-

