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King is like the upgraded version of the prince
although he probably couldn’t fly in the king suit
imagine the flying giant
thats terrifying
flying king mech
imagine being in like valley or something and you just got home from work and you see the king flying over your house
f e a r
And prince was an elder, but was he above all other elders or his name is just prince
why did i think of the halo theme while imagining that?
idk, that was just one of his names in the concepts
he was probably Eden Elder
Ahh okay, thanks for answering my lore questions btw guys, I really appreciate it
but as he is called king he probably ruled the whole kingdom
Do you think he ruled over the kingdom as prince as well or there was some sort of transition from when prince became king
I think he was strongest of all people and elders from the beginning
prince = no mech
king = mech
but there wasn't a kingdom built in the beginning so he was just a prince then
Oh guys... Small thing - if we include our own bodies, there are 64 bodies in Eden
yeah

but there can be up to 7 other skykids
Imagine people giving lore tours in game
mural tours, 2 hearts a kid
Oh is it a thing already?
No
Gotta make a group of dedicated players willing to do it, I think it'd be awesome
Is there anything on the portal/doors to other worlds at home?
the masks are on the top of the door
their bases are dark stone, the rest regular stone
What's the significance of that@lethal stump
something, i guess
dark stone is, well, a force of the darkness. i’ve just noticed it, i don’t have any theories yet

Hello
Hi
Hi hello
Just reading whats happening
Also a bit sad sbout the new seasons lore shinanigains
All i can see is manta more manta more manta
yeah, not as much lore as we’d hoped 
Same for enchantment
But I hope u guys kno it’s mainly made for ur own story making and ur own imagination
There was no official story given, same applies for all lore
yeah but form beta it seems like there might be more shinanigains
When you first start, the dark stone foundations at home are all you see before you unlock the full arches
So do you think Isle used to look more like Sanctuary (green and nice)
it would make sense if it was 
You people ever noticed the jars in Forest are different from the ones in Prairie?
That prairie has some huge jars at the temple?
And that Mantas have mouths?!
- i think those are jars to store whatever they mine in forest
- Big jars for big creatures of light
- manta go nom
Big jars for kids of light
oh no
I really love the idea that kids existed before all Eden mess and they were to spirits and elders what pigeons and crows are to us
that’s terrifying
i like it
couldn’t be skykids though, we didn’t exist back then
- walk in bands
- noisy as heck
- steal shiny things
- can fly
- mimmic people
couldn’t be skykids though, we didn’t exist back then
@lethal stump I’ll keep on dreaming
the closest thing to skykids was the CoL, and he was the prince so...i doubt they would see someone like him as a « nuisance pest »
sad
doesnt mean they can’t be like that in orbit with megabirb tho
if the ultimate ultimate gift doesn’t have something to do with the king i bet it’s about megabirb
What if the prince is the king's new form?
Kinda like the king decided he needed to shed shed shed and the prince is what remains to store his mind
but the prince was there before—
hes what’s shown in the opening cutscene and everything
king is just a mech
technically he was always the prince
however
it could be him reverting to how he was before
getting rid of the corruption
so there’s definitely some merit there
what if skykids were supposed to be clones of the prince like Ayanami Rei (Evangelion) or “The Boys from Brazil” but the control conditions for reproducing his personality/upbringing were lost and we’ve just gone feral
Anyone got an image of that Eden King thing? I am confused about that uh king, and my theories are getting messed up-
manta mouth 😦
Manta WHAT
I’m sorry WHAT?!
Oh don’t like that
one way i picture the child we play as is, like a monster ripping out the heart of a child of light then consuming it
or maybe a black hole is more accurate description
I haven't been on in awhile, and the first chat I see is about sky kids being birds / being feral

waking up to manta mouths is the weirdest thing i've woken up to lately
also, elders/creatures doc is out 
@hushed sable and @gray bridge , you are both welcome 
- what even are those names
- those names + sky kids 8 sounds like some 2000's disney channel show
its the name of the headpieces and hairstiles I guess
I love the stone kids concept
they look evil
They look like corrupted sky kids or something
‘Youhere’ though
Ikr
Zoomed into the concept spirits, nice to see that some haven’t changed, like blush, green cape and point 
the headpieces looked more like natives central, south and north americans headwears in this concepts
wasteland elder could be an aztecan god
Oh that would be the coolest season!
I want to go here
It’s Eden but blue
And tho ost is different
Anyone know how you completed it?
Ayin is precious yes
why did I say that
divine iirc that was out of bounds
the way eden was completed before was going through the stormlock and reach to the end of the map and enter a door
back then you lost emotes instead of winged light, so they really had to be careful
Back at beta eden is blue?
And a lot less red
mega crab mega crab mega crab
I think that is crab before being crab
ascended crab
it is based on a tarantula
crab children when
hold on that bottom spider (oops) looks like a shield(?)
looks like some amalgamation of the ancestors
yeah
only place this could make sense
wasteland: is creepy
tgc: make it creepier! Put a spider with human arms as legs there!
i was hoping to see eden concept arts for the final day but maybe some other day

lol at that point tgc went “wait there’ll be kids playing”
exactly XD
if i were a kid playing this game and this spoopy stuff from old concept arts were left in-game then yeah, i think i'd be really scarred LOL
the darker, grimier sky concepts along with how floaty everything is is definitely interesting tho
would love to see some fan animations based off them
immagine a level where you have to avoid awakening 8 of those preventing you from calling
That would be amazing
and crab rooms
Whale is a mix of coelacanth and arowana
on the other hand, a level where you have to fire a cannon to throw a ball to it, and get a pat emote
whos a good boi
he does look like a big dog
I wanna know what that lil halo is
Honestly, the halo looks lo much like a call that a real part of me wonders if it is a call
I want it as a cosmetic

It was an old collectible cosmetic actually
But it got removed, u supposed to get it after u complete Eden
ye various designs of halos would be nice cosmetics
A A A A A A
It was called the eden crown, I forgot why they took it out but I do remember some hacker got into it
they should add it back but as a reward for doing a much more difficult task
its so pretty
would be nice if we got new story areas with gates
To the right
It was never obtainable
The only official image of the cosmetic is that image
We have no idea what it was going to be used for, it being obtained from eden was just speculation
Do you mean the concept art?
Like it was never obtainable even in pre launch beta and the devs never explained what the crown was
ah
no ur good
Okay so, this. Is incredible
the old elders original creature concepts are probably my favorite
god
I wish they made it in to an art book
there will be an art book 
I get that having a boss type monster in each level might make the game seemed a bit more creepy
, considering the designs
especially the monkey
that darn monkey
But I freaking Love these
I also love the fact that among these unique designs of fantasy creatures
there's also just. A big whale
A big Floating whale 
the whale has to be bigger so that we can fly trough it
Considering the drawings of the kids next to it, it's probably like the size of the fish 🤔
A bit bigger though
Also omg
I can't stop gushing about it
the OLD Valley Elders
and immagine it less organic and with an tempel on the top
They were based off of fire dancers
After checking out the Vault's concept art I realized that the room after the two player door reminds me a lot of those rooms that have these HUUUUGE cpus and there's a lot of tiny lights, made for storing information.
a server room
Those thingies ya
It wasn’t rlly concept art, it actually made it in game
But it caused over heating and lag so they moved to a simpler design
it is a datastorage after all
But hey, nice observation

just physical storage not digital
tho the crystals might be something like a memoty storage
Based on concepts, they are
Those vault lanterns, they store both knowledge and memories
Hello there!
Does anybody would have an idea why theese weird things are scattered accross the world?
... I have not seen those. Do they only show up at higher graphics levels?
Here’s where i found them, up to down:
Isle of dawn
Valley
Isle of dawn
The lost ark
... I have not seen those. Do they only show up at higher graphics levels?
@short owl no
They look like the Hebrew alphabet which I’ve also seen scattered in the concept art
Wich one would be what?
I took tons of pics of those, and the only conclusion I could get is that they are graphical glitches
I liked the part of isle being the transition of the real world to sky
maybe we were knocked out, robbed of our memories and placed on the sands of isle
I sadly deleted them all bc I didn’t see a purpose in keeping em, but there’s a lot more and I couldn’t find any language or writing resembling it; and looking even closer it doesn’t seem like writing at all
Idk, there’s some behind the statue spears btw
And a lot in valley
And behind the cargo boat at wasteland
There’s a lot in valley
And I can keep going but like I said, I couldn’t find anything relevant
Are there some in eden, forest and in the vault?
Interesting...
If i saw that wasteland human hand crab i would delete the game
🦞
Delete!?!?!
Noooo, it gives you motive to keep the game
Gives more excitement and adventure!!
I hate scary things
...
Also spiders
I am beautifull!
AND BIG SPIDERS MUST DIEEEEEEE
But.... There’s no spider in sky
If only sky was an horror game
i'd have worse nightmares about big spiders than krill but it's be fun
i dont want nightmares,they must be scrapped
begone spider
Also i love this concept art
if only eden had lava in it
Ahhh the glowing night city
It doesn’t makes fire
._.
#concept-discussion-spoilers
I wanna fly into a city with my friends
😎
I WANT THE CITY
Petition for new chat!!
It brings ambient objects to a temperature where a chemical reaction with ambient oxygen produces intensively more energy than it takes for it to occurs
CoMe BAAAAAAAAAAAACK
I KNOWWWW
Krills used sewers!
we have the office
I wanna go to the real office
Anyway i don’t think the hebrew symbols are a glitch; each have some sort of similar pattern and some of them are identicals. And unlike graphical glitches, they are easy to miss
tgc was like: SPIDERS WITH HUMAN HANDS HAHA
but then
the rating is 10+ children are playing
ok,
scrap the spider
But spiders with hands, that does 18
How many legs a krill has?
Another useless question is:
Has anyone noticed the board with text in the office?
Wow that’s 18 x 2
Yes and it has some cool info! Reading it is a bit of a challenge tho
So a krill is two handed spiders fused together...
Oh no. Krill.. 0.0
There’s no way i could be able to read the text on it sadly
krill is a type of shrimp is that your point
your school had low standards', I dont know?
-_- really?
not sure what counts as passing in your school byt mine was 40%
or so, tho back to lore
It’s a cube from vacation island that misteriously disappeared a few days after its apparition
Sanctuary. Below in the caves with one winged light on the ladder. Reachable by jellyfish caves.
Not sure if it's still there.
Ash confirmed it’s a graphical glitch
Ig but i was going to say something more "revelant"
Nvm it won’t be funny if i say it because it’s vaguely the same
...
My reptilian brain told me that it was the tesseract
Yesss Sky tesseracts
....
Well i feel i need to ignite another conversation
Does it makes sense to compare the sanctuary island with the real-life galapagos islands?
Ooh that’s a cool idea
This reminds me about those skeletons in graveyard
Maybe we did have big fish creatures 
I just noticed all the creatures in sky are sea creatures
Except birds and butterflies
one of the indirectly linked tweets from #news kinda touches on that:
https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1284977323754708993
they had a lot more animal designs at the beginning before gradually setting on an aquatic theme
maybe that's kind of why it's in the underground forest??
this whale was shown as one of animal-themed elders so WHICH ONE WAS IT
or was the whale a part of teth concept??
kawaii
Teddy
Isle: "Trapped souls" idea was confirmed
Isle?
Prairie?
These are close-ups of elder images with texts we've never seen before
my face is like 👁👄👁 trying to reads the words
aylin, end of Day, exsomething to factory
You think they run into walls often
- screams * ITS HD
NO MORE BLURRINESS
look at the flat vault elder in the second one—
beautiful—
The wasteland elder is secretly a pizza chef.
Vault elder has experienced the effects of extreme gravity
forest elder is so flamboyant
she'd make a perfect cover for Sky vogue
isle elder shrunk
imagine that striped prince cloak being an ultimate ultimate
m o o d
This doesn't shape like a diamond
nooop
i forgot what those statue thingies were tho, are they weirdly-turned boats...?
Nope not boats
yeah they’re boats i’m pretty sure

Is that the butterfly cape?

I'd buy the prince cloak, even if it costed me a ton of hearts or a kidney
Just ordinary cape
i’d buy the prince mask even if it costs all of my organs
The Sky kid's mask looks like this
i don’t think we can access the skykid mesh
that would count as hacking, since it’s looking into the files of the game afaik
i cri
You do not defy the words of the King!
and the king says no hacking !
Do the King honk?

King honk-
Maybe a scary honk?
e l d e r c a l l s
the elders need their own spirit trees
King honk
i imagine king with scar’s voice from the lion king
GHJONKK
"Honk my child" said the King 
King honk would be a very low pitched manta call
How bout voice like Te kā but deeper?
hmmm
we need elder voice headcanons 
valley elders are fred and george, i will not change my mind
There’s a prince and a king??
yes
Not sure if this is the right place to ask it but there's only one way to find out..... OK my question of the day is is there another way to get to the international space station without going to the TV in the office?
Where did the info come from?
Not sure if this is the right place to ask it but there's only one way to find out..... OK my question of the day is is there another way to get to the international space station without going to the TV in the office?
@urban turret You should ask in #questions-and-help
I did they said go to spoilers
this is a lore chat, friend
Put || on either side of the question
but no, on sundays you have to go into the TV
They meant spoiler tag it not goto spoilers
Kinda makes sense that the prince could be a skykid or descendant.
Where did the prince info come from?
@signal vigil
the king and prince have been around since the beginning of game development. The prince may or may not exist in canon, but the king has multiple homages in-game (king propaganda statues in wasteland and other vaguely king-shaped things)
The prince has been in the lore since ages ago
Ah
Brick go nyoom.
it’s a common theory that we’re the prince, since every iteration of him has looked like a skykid
Oout of all the elders the prince is the most connected to the light.
Where do you get to read about them if you’re not part of the dev team?
bring forth the tomcepts
Wow this is pretty, wish they'd retained that
three prince designs (in the second pic he’s on the far right)
On where is what I’m asking. Twitter? The site?
pins uwu
also twitter yes
also prince call would sound like Ballon Boy laugh from fnaf 2 change my mind
Ah
concept links
(you can read the prince's old stories in https://imgur.com/a/iGkSRIX and https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1)
And there are a looooooot of images newly posted by TGC
“7 Days of Sky”
Isle of Dawn: https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1282813295779475457
Daylight Prairie: https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1283182889341837313
Hidden Forest: https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1283564674223505408
Valley of Triumph: https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1283925614588686337
Golden Wasteland: https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1284265047229739008
Vault of Knowledge: https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1284645576881999872
Elders, Creatures, & Characters: https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1284977308462223360

Hey guys does the time of each realm was always fixed?
I noticed something interesting
I could be wrong tho
wdym ?
You can see it's night time in prairie in yawn emote spirit cutscene
well we can see the sun going down from Valley OOB but usually it's fixed
technically it’s fixed, but i would imagine irl there would be night/day cycles
Cutscene
otherwise whatever they’re trying to grow in prairie is ded
that particular OOB place is technically the same area as wasteland social so maybe that's the reason why the sun can go down
that particular OOB place is technically the same area as wasteland social so maybe that's the reason why the sun can go down
I'm talking about prairie 😅
yeah and I was talking about the valley
I also believe all the areas had day/night cycle
Hmm 👀
bc you asked "does the time of each realm was always fixed?"
Somehow the time is fixed when skykids visit the areas
Maybe it changes when we don't play the game
👁️ 👄 👁️
probably a game design but maybe there's a lore reason behind that
something about megabird i’m guessing
how do home portals even work
Brick what's that
ok so, this kinda goes along with « we’re the prince » theory
yknow how the elder rooms are removed from space time ? home is the same, but it still exists and has an effect on the real world, like the elder rooms do
aNd since we’re the prince it’s basically his elder room
Sky kids have their own room👀
own HomE
Ah ye
what if the eden diamond is why time doesnt change outside of home? 
I think the time does change when we are not there
but i guess it's also possible the time is almost stopped?
You mean when we don't play👀
yes
this is getting meta 
Nocturnal Prairie
nighttime prairie 
nighttime prairie
In night time there'll be krills in prairie
morning eden
that sounds like Sky 2.0
speaking of sky 2.0
has mr chen like confirmed that this isn’t the only game in the series ?
It's up to our interpretation
he said something like that but I think he was referring to the seasons
i kinda hope we get graphic novels, take the ATLA route
i would love a sky graphic novel series 
what's ATLA?
i found something
The original "first chapter" comment from Mr. Jenova Chen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0XBmzddf40&feature=youtu.be&t=179
Avatar the Last Airbender
they didn’t want to make a bunch of new shows, so they made a graphic novel series to expand on the amazing worldbuilding
sky novels with or without illustration would be really nice
yes
I'm itching for fighting in sky, forgive me

what would be even COOLER would be an immersive history book/journal
someone centuries in the future trying to piece together the history of the kingdom like we are, except they have some different resources and knowledge 
I love MYST novels which I think is one of the best Sci-fi novels i have read
any of this OR
a musical/stage play
but there were some inconsistencies between MYST games and novels
inconsistencies are probly unavoidable when people make good pieces for completely different platforms
Would you guys like it if Fighting system will be added into the game?
not particularly
i don’t like fighting games, that’s why my friend suggested sky to me in the first place 
I don't hate fighting games but a game cannot include everything
so I prefer Sky to have no fighting system
maybe for April fool's prank but that's all
I mean is the Lighting System will expand into Dark creatures
imagine they added a prince npc as an april fools prank
shoot a rocket at the krill
Rocket of light
It would be nice for newbies if we could stun or eliminate krill but ig that would make the game too easy
megabird, tired that the job isn’t getting finished: ugh, forget it
megabird: * hands skykid a gun *
megabird: shoot the eden diamond with this
i wonder if the elder things at the end of realms/end of vault are graves or if they’re thrones
Sacrifice a Light from us not really Winged Light just Light use fly to the Dark Creatures to save them?
Is anyone else having issues with valley?
i thought of the vault place as a sort of meeting place for elders?
#questions-and-help @midnight oxide
Oops wrong ping srry
i was thinking as much, but from a logistical standpoint the elders are too big to sit on those grave-throne-things
it’s hard enough for a tiny skykid, let alone a 7 foot elder
( i have tried to sit on them, it is very difficult in game—)
i thought of the vault place as a sort of meeting place for elders?
It could be just a copy of top of Eden too
budget eden
In pre beta there was only one tomb(don't know actuall word) at the top of vault
tmw the king dies so you need to make a quick meeting area
the top of eden and the top of vault are the exact same, though
Even those arch
but we gotta remember that the areas the grave-throne-things are areas that were important to the elder
that means that it’s equally likely it’s a throne or a grave
however bc of the candles around them, i would say a grave of sorts is the most likely
All elders died as well
For a moment I read that as”quick yeeting area”
“the king is dead and there he goooooes”
not on the physical plane of existence
Half dead (zombies)
yeet the king
« are the elders dead ? »
« well yes, but actually no »
Undead mobs
We zombie moffs, died but crawled back out
zombie prince
Holy! 👀
All these tweets about "Concept Art" I thought it was just the one tweet with just the in-game screencap, I never actually scrolled down until just now

gems
Haha buckets of concept art to roll around in
lore channel's most revered treasure is the concept arts 
And occasional drive-bys from devs (ask about crab walk I dare ya)
"Post your late night headtrips here! You're among friends" Lore motto 
me: can i have sky ?
mom: we have sky at home
sky at home:
i thought that was roblox
Now I’m trying to imagine Minecraft Sky
sky minecraft map 
NC Wyeth, The Giant 1923
that minecraft Sky was the actual Sky when Aaron joined TGC again (iirc)
A skykid in Louvre (Georges de La Tour, Joseph the Carpenter, 1642)
Posture of Elder reminds me of Wm Blake’s Cronus having a snack break with his kids
yknow what i wonder
what’s up with the order of the elders at the end of vault ? does it mean something ?
here’s the order btw
teth, tsadi, aylin, daleth, samekh, and lamed in the centre, and alef in front of them
forest, wasteland, prairie, isle, valley, vault in the middle a bit forward
i was thinking it was in order of who was most involved in the civil war lol
then again it was 3 am when i thought of it
I like to think Sky started like this:
Jenova gathered everyone around a table after Journey, team turns to Jenova and asks, "Ok, so what's our next game?" Jen lays the Wyeth painting out on the conference table, points to it, and whispers "this"
eden being us
you were talking about this cutscene
yes
and the supposed tombs are in a different order
yes they’re in the realm order
perhaps
i feel it should have a deeper meaning though 
that’s amazing framing omg
I mean Elders could be arranged to look like the mountain or Eden castle
Then some dev pops into chat and spoils it,
yah, they're just in alphabetical order 
that's deep tho
listen it's either we overthink everything here or don't overthink at all 
aesthetical reason
forest
wasteland
[vault]
prairie
isle
valley
"ah it just looks nice like that, a refreshing order from the usual realm order you know?"
devs also try to keep the game aesthetically pleasing
Except for tables, they just for fun 
Wonder how much time they spent on actually creating a in-game style table, and then had to scrap it for reasons 
they did that ?
That reminds me about looking for significance in the Hebrew letter names— have we checked the original hieroglyphic antecedents? Like “daleth” was “door”, “teth” was “wheel” etc
So I guess the order was set based on how tall the elders are, and maaaybe it was suggesting Eden
I have seen people checking them
yeah i think yesterday this became a linguistics-discussion-spoilers channel 
it did and it was amazing
and i’m not done with the linguistics
we’ve only just started

Are you deconstructing a hjonk based language 
we’re deconstructing the language in the credits
mochi and i are working together on it mostly, however y’all are encouraged to help too !!
if this ain’t an irl language i will scream
They're not

From the latest concept art description from the dev, no1 and no2, the dev reveal that the elder was supposed to be animal bosses, transition eventually to human like. I say the prairie elder is a polar bear hoho
what about them ?
Where are all the caterpillars 
I mean these are butterflies right 
You're thinking it too right now 
I have no other thoughts on the subject, I just realized caterpillars
the butterflies are beings of light, do they grow like regular butterflies ?
My head's stumped right now
I'll forget it 
@lethal stump that looks like arabic 
i mean, i could read arabic, i just dont know what it means
the butterflies are beings of light, do they grow like regular butterflies ?
@lethal stump
If this is true, they evolve into mantas
Birbs.
@kind bobcat i’ve tried learning arabic, it certainly looks similar however it certainly isn’t
and welp, now we have references to hebrew and arabic
guess it’s time to break out the big books
fun fact the first letter, the line, is called ‘Aleph’
Yes, there’s definitely some connection to Semitic languages going on
it’s also where the english ‘ay’ and greek ‘alpha’ come from
Who was the name Alef assigned to?
The Prince
gee imagine an ‘a posteriori’ Semitic-based fan conlang for Sky
The prince was the first elder to exist.
Who was the name Alef assigned to?
@kind bobcat prince ig
it’s the first letter of every alphabet that features ‘A’
also ah yes a r a b i c
the language i learnt for 6 years on elementary school but i didnt pay attention so i forgot most of it
it’s the first letter of every alphabet that features ‘A’
@lethal stump a is the main character of alphabets😳
greek, hebrew, latin, arabic, and phoenician
gee imagine an ‘a posteriori’ Semitic-based fan conlang for Sky
@lyric isle the devs made a conlang for the end credits song
as said before, this channel is now linguistics discussion spoilers
Isn’t that Aurora’s own?
@lyric isle the devs made a conlang for the end credits song
@lethal stump ooooooh
help I’m slightly obsessed with linguistics right now, trying to conlang something of my own
mood
help I’m slightly obsessed with linguistics right now, trying to conlang something of my own
@lyric islearent we all obsessed with linguistics now
i’ve compiled an IPA chart of the sounds i could find in the song, lemme grab it
big brain
Epic brain.
S h o w
what if the song was actually just made to be aesthetic, it wasnt an actual conlang
:(
i'm pretty sure it is a conlang because there are some phrases that are repeated in the song
Ye mayhaps but
we can imagine(...?)
holy crap this is very big brain
poggers
Holy honk.
now that we have ANOTHER writing system...well...might as well transcribe that as well 
mochi and I are working on it
i have the skeleton of a doc rn, i haven’t put anything in it
just organized
if this ain’t an irl language i will scream
@lethal stump English
Wonder if Aurora is supposed to be the child of light 
maybe aurora is megabirb
English ? where ?
English is not welcome in #linguistics-discussion-spoilers.
we only talk in old honkish and sky runes
i mean it's in English
huh what am i supposed to say xæ a-12 or something now
AAAAAAAAAAHH WHAT
OH MY GOSH
Its a font.
iirc ginsy made a list
Ah yes, intellectuals.
hey do we have lyrics for the credit song yet? In Journey it really tied in with the lore, so I would expect the same of sky
Those letters that are written the same seem to make sense as being so
I mean
Brick has transcript but I think it's impossible to translate the song at this point
the song of Journey was in irl languages but the Sky credits song is not
Maybe i should stay away from Sky linguistics and stick to architecture 
This is beyond my brain power
they’re closely related sounds with the only difference being if they’re voiced
@kind bobcat same i think i'll stick to analysing the music
also mochi beat me to it with the decoding 
actually, would it be possible to at least put glyphs to the song lyrics
thats what we’re trying to do
ahh oops
also mochi beat me to it with the decoding
@lethal stump it took me a good hour before I realized it's in English
oh
i think i’m looking so much for zebras that the horses are running past me
an hour of googling ancient writing systems
ahh so when the glyphs are put into english alphabet it translates to english and not something incoherent?
i saw the picture and the chat but i think my brain is too small
@gray bridge we're talking about this, but these runes are not in game https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/734710821350801447
it seems so
we can still try to make the cipher clear, i’ll do that rn
it's interesting to see that they placed the eden mountain or mecha king directly behind a skykid
if skykids are the king it's just going to be that spiderman meme
what is that
one is smol one is big
i hope people on the memes channel understand tho LOL
Okay two skykids with cool outfits
And which spirit has that cape?
mochi obviously that's the spirit from the upcoming eden area for next season
me: * doings lore things *
my brain: tsadi sounds like shawty
me: why do you do this
everyone wants a season in eden for different reasons
lore chat: more lore
meme chat: more “damn eden is hard” memes
eden junkies: more reasons to go to eden
moffs: masochism
The "for doh me" can also be heard in the isle opening scene.
Eden season map : the king's bones.
yeah we hear the first part of the same song when we enter the isle
I think they're the same but maybe not?
Honestly if this does have anything to do with Semitic languages I’d be useless with it in detail as my only experience with them is loshn-koydesh [literally ‘holy tongue’ - in Yiddish, loanwords from Hebrew/Aramaic] words
when and where we hear the song should be strongly related to the lyrics
ahh i got some stuff on that
the intro of aurora's song can be found in multiple locations
The first two words of the last line is definetly For Doh
Maybe it has something to do with Start or End.
the words "o te ma" are definetly in there
you can hear the first 1-2 lines' tune of credits song in homespace (night), gw broken temple, flight to isle temple, and vault first floor from what i've gathered so far (but in different keys)
The first line, the first 3 syllables from the third line, the fourth line, and the first 2 syllables from the second/fifth line
@gray bridge those places also be related to the lyrics then
not confirmed yet but that's what i remember
if u can hear the song (megaborb ?) in home maybe that works with my “home is like an elder room” 
i can link the homespace song actually
it's found in the last part
c major instead of f#major
if you're adding the concept image then yes, with ginsy's permission
ok
and now we wait
original images can be found somewhere in the Gnomon livestream
wAIT NOT NVM
sorry that was wrong url
minus the space character and the three lines character, theres 26 glyphs
maybe it’s another english cipher 
That assumes that the headpiece message contains every letter
which is possible but it might be quite difficult to decode that
^That's in response to it maybe being an english cipher
@gray bridge maybe trivial but when I tried to play the song with a flute in game, I found that the home letimotif was slightly different
this part; the first one is from the song and the second one is from home OST ignoring the key
ahh yeah now that i think about it it's pretty much off by a few notes
wait can i drop home ost here
yeah if you have the recording
I think that also plays in Vault?
oh yeah, vault elder cutscene's first few seconds of music match with homespace first few seconds of music as well
The whole second floor of Vault too
more linguistics 
i'm going to have to look at the osts again
also, does anyone have all four levels of the sleepy emote?
yeah because i need to get the tune
For some reasons why does it feel like Forest Elder hates Sky kids?
her concept was that she lured us into the forest and trapped us there in a maze of trees
i think she’s much nicer now, although she might not be as kind as the other elders
Did she see the prince on Sky kids?
maybe 
Did she hate the Prince or she adores the prince that it hurts her seeing us cause we look like the prince?
@gray bridge Yes and Lv 1 and 2, and Lv 3 and 4 sounds the same
i’d imagine she hates him
i don’t think any of the elders particularly like the prince
@humble barn hold on can i dm
Did the prince crown himself king or everyone did.
hm
in my hc he basically did it himself, it was less of a crowning and more a mech-ing 
when the chibi takes off their mask

chibi = prince
also uh
have this
i tried writing phonetically without a phonetic keyboard 
correction:
Possible syllables
I'm putting "forest elder hates sky kids" into the "reasons why Megabirb may actually have mind control powers" box
This was meant to be a crack theory but if that's what actually ends up being the case, I'm gonna need to 
Oh god... What if the forest is full of rain because rain was summoned to protect the forest? And when we make it through the forest, the twins set up the races to get us through as fast as possible while trying to keep us interacting with as few as possible
The rain isn't just there it's a defence against us. Forest was trying to STOP us
the races were already there though, no ?
oh nooo the world is against us :(
CAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO RESTORE MIND CONTROL KERFUR
WAAAAAIT A SECOND
hmmmm ur right
so megabirb is mind controlling ppl? MEGABIRB IS BAD TOO!!! NOOOOO

MEGABIRB IS BIRB I LOVE BIRB WHY THAT BIRB BAD BIRB
I bet the only reason we have free will is because if we didn't, the elders would not only know what to expect, but have no sense of mercy on us
Because if we're an innocent child, it's a lot harder to just smack us with the hammer and be done with it
so basically prince and megabirb are on the same side?? im confused
and yeah tho
no theyre opposing
prince is for free will, megabird against
like the story of lucifer
You missed the unreliable author conversation which ended with the idea that Isle Elder has already fallen under megabirb's mind control and told us what the birb wants us to think
I...I just came to check and there's already a new conspiracy
there’s always a new conspiracy 
conspiracy and king propaganda
I'm pretty sure the conspiracy is from yesterday
King: you are not immune to propoganda.
Skykid: I am currently driven by propoganda.
Megabird: I AM propoganda.
the propaganda trilogy
the mind control crack theory is really cool, although it has little evidence other than speculation
Everything IS propaganda
Sky CoTL is propaganda
That's why it's supposed to be a crack theory
But uh... I'm starting to believe it?
Help, I'm not immune to my own propoganda
It's a trap!!
what could you possibly mean 
Our mind is trying to trick us!
we'll never escape the propaganda
how to escape the propaganda:
- you don’t
- ???
- profit
Spread it
???
Profit
Where's my money?
Did you ??? Yet?
- spread it
- krill tsadi
- profit
ooi tsadi is a cool guy don't krill him
whos tsadi again i forgot
wasteland uncle
Battle bread
Battle bread
battle bread is cool
battle bread ?
my mans tsadi deserves some love
he does
his glorious braids
tsadi appreciation club
Idk, I kinda want money more
me too so i can buy adventure pass
I'm sorry for your loss 
Eden diamond merch

EDEN DIAMOND
Do u guys know whos gon be the next travelling spirit. Just askin
Ask the King
with the EDEN DIAMOND you can now:
- dethrone god
- become god
- have a cool lamp
EDEN DIAMOND manufacturers are not responsible if you single handedly destroy your entire civilization and or kingdom
@limber carbon #questions-and-help
with the EDEN DIAMOND you can now:
- dethrone god
- become god
- have a cool lamp
EDEN DIAMOND manufacturers are not responsible if you single handedly destroy your entire civilization and or kingdom
@lethal stump
Sounds like a good deal
I MUST HAVE IT
sorry sir this is a wendy's lore-discussion-spoilers
We only serve propaganda
everyone gets a complimentary king statue with their order
And a conspiracy theorist hat
Is forgotten ark ark rlly just made out bunch of stone?
probably, iirc all the boats you see are pretty stony
just that they can fly and move around because of power diamonds i think
Is it true the hat is blue, cone shapped, and has a lil 1 on it?
is it true that you have to die in eden 😱
How did you know?!
@gray bridge is moff confirmed

oh NO i have been found out 
Everything I knew was a lie!!
Hello
hi
hello uwu
Why is there a krill in Forgotten Ark XD?
I hope whoever has to read our nonsense gets a kick out of it
it gives me a big f e a r
It gives me propaganda. And i love it
good
i think the krill came with whatever storm knocked out the forgotten ark but i haven't seen the murals in a while so take what i say with a grain of salt @autumn solstice
Fear is out fuel, propaganda gives us life
we have and never will be immune
consume the propaganda for its your lifeblood
mods are awake. Hide your propoganda

we rope em in with us 
I lost my net connection for a few seconds, I am being sabotaged for my propaganda
SABOTAGE
propaganda plan:
- recruit regular kiddos
- recruit boosters
- recruit shepards
- recruit community elders
- and finally...recruit the devs
Alright gonna go spread mind control light to all my friends
have fun comrade
does that mean hearts = mind control ?
cries in I have no friends
see that's why i don't know if multiplayer is canon or is there only 1 skid canonically
devs: a fun little game with some lore attached !
lore chat: POLITICS ! PROPAGANDA ! MIND CONTROL ! UNRELIABLE NARRATOR ! EVIL MEGABIRD !
devs: 
They did not know what they started
But soon, they'll not be immune to OUR propaganda


@gray bridge both make equal sense, so i guess it’s down to preference
@gray bridge it would make sense if it's multiple of us, since one kid won't be able to do everything alone
BUT we all shepherd the same spirit
Dev: so what are they talkin about in the discord lore chat?
Social media manager: Uhhh... Well...
The ones we relive the memories of
@short owl HIDE THE PROPAGANDA!! QUICK THEY WANT TO SEE WHATS HAPPENING
At least that's how I imagine it
considering not even any of the reactions are from mods or devs... We may be okay
i like the second option 
What’s.... happening...? 👀
- SCREAMS *
quick which propaganda do we present
The king is real!!
hello boon would you like to hear about king propaganda
yes would you like to hear our king propaganda apologetics
he might not be the bad guy
Tell me about the king. I am scrolling but this is not set out in a concise and sensible order.
Well guys I'm thinking to go that night time prairie😈



