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That’s actually forest and it’s showing where these lights came from
And those are most likely the spirits from the lightseekers, theoretically, they found these cool lights, shared them with the scholars and they made them into new lights. Elements of power
Oop , worked out how to add pictures! Yes, that's where the lights came from. And maybe the spirits?
This is when the ark was built and they decided to use these new lights for a journey towards prosperity
hmm yes
also does anyone know what the balls of light in isle do?
idk if its just a coincidence but two of the lamps in the small cave glow brighter and give off light faster than the other lamps
They don’t do anything game mechanic wise
But
Since it’s from the lightseeker season
And the lightseeker season has a connection to the enchantment season
It could be possible that the tiny light boat in isle could be connected to the ark
Like a hidden design or early concept or sumtin
On a recent candle run, I've spotted this drawing in the forgotten ark crab cave:
So i joined the beta and saw the trailer from start of the again
There’s a lot more than that Sonya
In trailer it said if only they have listened
We don’t have a confirmed story yet
They would have listened to what? To whom?
Oh we have the intro pinned and memorized already mel, don’t worry
We still don’t have anything confirmed on that statement yet
This game will kill me from curiosity
Yeah
This chat is mainly for theories, confirmed stuff is something barely have
It would


Sorry XD bad puns aside. The drawing in the crab cave, it seems to show them using the large jars to...get water in the cave?
For farming?
And tbh I don’t have much of a story in my head rn, but one thing I can speculate on is the fact that the environment was once rich with mantas and butterflies as shown in the murals
Ah, yes, because of the clouds.
But as we seen the krill actually.....u kno kill a manta
It was only safe to assume that overtime, krills kept hunting mantas one by one until they were all gone
True
Plus we have seen about 6 confirmed krill in wasteland so far
Well...there are still rays in prairie....i get the impression that's where they collected the lights.
Hm?
Maybe the wastland was already a wastleland when they set sail in the ark?
Is that possible?
Yeah...
I don't think their goal was wasteland
What I do kno for sure is that they were on a quest to seek prosperity or something in those words
I think they were going to eden
They could’ve been planning on going anywhere
And....that’s possible but
Ehh I kinda doubt it
But since we dunno for sure, ur free to theorize
But where they were headed doesn’t rlly matter tbh, what’s important is that they were seeking prosperity and they could’ve been on a journey anywhere. The point is that this never happened and they crashed. Even if there was a debate on whether they were going to eden or wasteland, it wouldn’t rlly matter
The weird thing is all the releams are a big cloud from low to high but the upper we the darker it gets
What if the corruption wasn't something from outside but started from inside?
Ur saying clouds is apart of corruption?
....we aren’t rlly going higher besides the mountain and eden
It should be brighter
shrug
May not seem like it
But I feel like ash is lurking here
👀
.....if u are I jus wanna say hiiii
so uh, what exactly did the orange light do?
it just showed like
fireworks
the shop was after the spirits left so it's not that
Maybe u should look inside the ark
I think it was mainly like "HEY GUYS WAKE UP THE KIDS BROUGHT ALL THE LIGHTS BACK"
Also I’m jus as confused as u are and to be completely honesty with you
I gave up all my theories on enchantment
I’m jus making up my own stories at this point jus so I can have closure or satisfaction
the season end flag on the constellation is still blinking for some reason though
oh and also
the middle shop in the arc is all the lights
is that where they were stored?
the ark spirits are merchants
I assume so
so why did the scholars entrust them with such powerful stuff
them being scholars could explain the presence of the vault like things in the shops
Even tho I’ve tested out the orange light in beta a while ago....u guys kinda reminded me how disappointed I got when I first saw the ending cutscene
Ig I jus had high expectations, I should rlly lower them and start making my own stories
what DID you expect
Sorry but are stars we collect the people of sky that once lived and died. Unlike spirits they have no good memories so they just wanted to become useful in some way ?
we dont know what or who stars are exactly
ill... start calling them winged light bc the usage of the word star is confusing
To be they seem to have a very sad story idk why I feel sad everytime I collect them
They are imprints from the child of light
Like they are waiting for someone or something just waited the died. Until they became the light to help us
Just look at them stare at the sky when we collect them
So sad T-T
what DID you expect
@desert sun I expected a little closure and at least a little bit of explanation or some kind of lore
I loved this season overall but....idk sometimes I wish they would jus give us something instead of making us figure everything out. No matter how much I speculate, it jus sucks that they will never give us any confirmed closure on the story of the ark. I have my theories but....I wanna hear something confirmed at least once 😕
Haha I guess I accidentally got off topic
Well
Back to lore talk ig
The feeling us different isn't it? When you find something when you know is there and when yi suddenly find something that you didn't know
So yeah that's the excitement I guess hehehe I smile everytime I find stars without knowing it was there.
Well, not jus the ark tho
To me, it rlly does suck that they depend on us to jus guess a story but.....I’m jus so bothered by the fact that I will always look at my theories and say “....none of this is confirmed, none of it ever will be 😔”
Awww
Why do I feel that lore channel is gloomy? Is it the rain?
@hushed steeple my bad 😂
It’s jus.....idk today reminded me of the disappointment I had when I first experienced this in beta
But ill try not to give up
Ikr!!
It makes sense
The murals on the ark sortnif adds to it as well
is a bug indeed
The ? in the seasonal constellation is supposed to activate the end-of-season cutscene once you’ve completed all the ark light quests. However, the function of using the ? to watch the cutscene seems to be bugged right now and isn’t working correctly. Please report this bug and wait for a fix.
I wanna ask tho
In the ark there’s a lone krill flying above the gateway to the ark
Does it have a connection with the krill on those paintings on the boat
Someone's pointed out before in beta that the shop with the Vault lanterns summons things (rainbows, tables, fireworks), but it's also worth pointing out that the shop with the 6 lights we collected gives us light related spells (glow, antigravity, fast recharge)
like the lights together are ingredients to make things light boosting things with
as a note, I'm not sure if Hage Jiisama edited the doc since, the very bottom info on the doc is his speculation
@cold steppe
That’s Hage’s speculation on things
@sly kestrel
I have made things more explicitly clear in my doc that whatever the things piercing the ship are I'm making an observation and not confirming the things there as canon
Ouyeah! Prediction came true! now we able to buy spells

Now I'm hype for next season! Next lore to unravel!

I imagine they'll add tall spells some day
Wait u can buy spells? Where?
u can buy them off spirits or in the forgotten ark if u have the orange light
Cooolcoolcool
Can anyone tell me where I can find today's travel spirit?
The underground caverns in the hidden forest
Thx
Aww the forgotten ark is lovely ||with so many purchasable spells in it||
It seems we now, with the Orange light, have the full key for how spirits create spells and craft different magic from light, and possibly to understand the murals more thoroughly.
How to make spell
A furnace to melt the light creatures 🤭
And store it nicely in a jar by this sleepy emote spirit
wow
Why did I believe we were gonna restore a Krill 
So the spirits in the ark had the knowledge to extract the different colors of the light spectrum and the different corresponding colors were the spells. The forbidden ark spirits were ambushed by a krill while they're on there way to deliver the spells somewhere. Maybe this is how they change the colors or the cape?
Even tho I’ve tested out the orange light in beta a while ago....u guys kinda reminded me how disappointed I got when I first saw the ending cutscene
@sly kestrel You're not alone. Ending cutscene is gorgeous but for real I thought the fire orb was gonna restore something else lmaoA Krill for example
god if it had restored a krill to attack us and return it to a dark wasteland that would have been so sad lmao
i also thought though that with the final light there would be like gates opening somewhere and krill would flood in
not sure if it goes here exactly, but while the idea of a family of spirits is cute, it also means they all died together at the same time. so what do you think happened to them? (the family in belonging)
They seemed to have a big meal at the end so maybe food poisoning
I was hoping the orange or fire orb will bring the spirits alive and stay to sell the spells
But it's fine either way because now i can buy resize potion

Question for speculation:
Do we buy the spells for the candles, or do we use the light of those candles to forge the spell?
The help text indicates the latter
I was hoping the orange or fire orb will bring the spirits alive and stay to sell the spells
@pearl void but they gonna b lonly 🥺

I would say you would be forging the spell with the candles, I'm pretty sure that's what it said when I picked up my rainbow spells
Sorry I'm late but I'd like to say that at least
Where do you find the rainbow spells?
Left side of the ship, below it there's a stall right there and u can click the question mark button........ I guess.
The items available at shop change every reset right?
BTW anyone else notice the sub text change?
"an enchantment pearl in the golden wasteland"
Random question: what does the wall art in isle of dawn indicate about the society there? What are the starlike things the elder is returning to the sky?
Maybe the World of Sky was a civilization that died 
Maybe the World of Sky was a civilization that died
@hidden dagger that's a very possible theory
It may also explain why there are spirits scattered around in the first place
They got....
Hm
Killed!
And the runes on Isle, Forest and Ark
Krilled
But how could they have died?
I have no idea
Wait
I think i got a theory
Eye of Eden was like the protector or something that protected everything
Perhaps by the things that got the krills
But then it got corrupted
But by who?
Hm...
Or should I say what
And they destroyed or corrupted Eden
BTW anyone else notice the sub text change?
"an enchantment pearl in the golden wasteland"
@cobalt palm there was a question before... what was covered in the sand... now it's the answer...
Hm
True
And the Elders were the protectors
Specially the Vault Elder
Who protected the entrance to Eden
Now let's talk about where did the world of sky even come from. Is it the heaven of the game's universe. Lol the Devs need to give us a story
Ye
And where did the children of light come from?

interesting of you to say the vault elder protected the entrance of eden
Wait
devs did in a scrapped timeline
I got a idea of the Children of light
Who is the narrator in the intro should solve some of these
I got a idea of the Children of light
@hidden dagger ANGELS
I assumed that the children of light are just the souls of the kids in eden and eden is a type of hell
not angels, they were created by the megabird according to an old timeline
eden used to be a palace
hmmm you all know about the power diamond theory and the battlefield civil war?
nope
I guess they tried to defend eden before
Their souls are the winged lights, and their bodys are on Eden awaiting for someone to give them back their souls
To finally go to heaven (orbit)
But why are there sky children there? (Obviously to get ascended candles)
okay if most of you don t know about those theories i can explain they clear a lot of things up
But the candles are only to change the look
eden's a purgatory if I had to put a name to it
it may have used to be a grand place but now its just a trap
Could be the energy on eden
it s the energy from the failed power diamond prototype and the king s wrath
What king?
oh you don t know?
nope
Nop
lol i got a small thing to explain let me find it
Kk
Alsi
Also*
The only ones alive
Should be us (sky kids)
And the spirits of the season
king was the "eden elder"
QUIZ YOU RE HERE
🤪
i m trying to find jay s thing about power diamond and the battlefield
yes hi am i famous now? :*0
and the timeline
OH
I guess that we save the spirits because whoever did this to them go them trapped in corrupted bodies instead of them going to heaven I think. And we sky kids save them.
We know Granny is alive, because on the final custcene she doesnt ascend to "heaven"
But the other spirits do
Interesting
PLOT TWIST: GRANNY IS EVIL AND SHE CONTROLS EDEN AND KEEOS THE KRILL AND CRABS AND THERE WILL BE AN EVENT WHERE 100 SKY KIDS WILL FIGHT
ok sorry
LMAO
I wish I could know what the Devs are working on right now
Lol
PLOT TWIST: GRANNY IS EVIL AND SHE CONTROLS EDEN AND KEEOS THE KRILL AND CRABS AND THERE WILL BE AN EVENT WHERE 100 SKY KIDS WILL FIGHT
@verbal swift Infinity War in a nutshell
So this is about the theory of diamond production and the purpose of flying boats. Boats are mainly for the use of carrying pots of light. You can see these pots of light being made at prairie and I say pots of light because there are butterflies put inside them. In the wave emote cutscene, u can actually see one of the flying boats carrying pots of light.
These pots are being shipped to forest to make power diamonds, they combine the light with organic material at forest and use a diamond press to combine them into an artificial Star, or what we call “power diamond”. You can actually see the concept of this by looking at the forest temple door mural. To add even more details, right when u enter forest the text on the bottom says to “find the source of an ancient power”. The pic below is another way of looking how power diamonds are made and how forest built them. This diamond press in the picture is also seen at the golden wasteland, and there’s a krill flying around it. It may be broken down but it is noticeable that it is the same factory. Also the shipwreck at wasteland is seen to be carrying certain pieces of this diamond press, it goes to the top and sides. Now I know there’s boats everywhere and not all of them are carrying pots of light, so I jus assume they are for transportation since the people on the ground can’t fly naturally
Bc of the fact that the narrator said “if only they had listened” and the mass production of evil artificial power I think there were rebellions made attempting to stop this before it gets out of hand. These diamonds of power were jus evil and in the battlefield there are circular shields that had the natural light symbol on it opposing to the diamond symbol. This gives a motive as to why they fought
So the diamond symbol connects to wasteland’s side in many ways, first of all, the first krill area seems to be almost identical to the forest temple, indicating they used the same architecture. And the masks on the wasteland spirits have diamond symbols, just like the forehead plate on teth. Also, the diamond symbol is seen on 2 castles in wasteland that look like the one on the shields. Diamond shaped symbols were said to represent use of technology and to be an artificial symbol unlike the flowing smooth feel of creatures and nature. I got that from the concept arts but anyways, forest is known for their use of industry and their production of the power diamonds. Now regarding the sun symbol, there is a building in eden
here
all from jay
did everyone leave 
that s all from jay lol
Oh k
Oo
Oo
but there s a lot more evidence in sky that leads to this theory
Vault of knowledge huhhh? A huge diamond thing that creates constellations and leads to eden
vault is theorized to actually be within the mountain of eden with the summit of vault being the summit of eden
That would kinda make sense
but it doesnt explain the "corruption"
alright i ll be eating lunch then i ll be in qnh so ping me for anything
Also there's a eden door at home. And let's not forget that home is in the middle of an ocean. So we may be in Earth?????????
If that's tru an apocalypse must have happened on earth and it got flooded somehow
And maybe this island called home and the only thing tall enough to stay
Home might be where we are "born"
And sky kids existed to save lost spirits and are teleported to places where spirits can be saved. They also have an easy access to Eden maybe to be able to save it
The CoL might be the Fallen Sky kids that werent able to save the spirits
that may be true
Because after dying, when they "revive" they have a cape
Sky kids only have the purpose so save eden since they are always brought back so they DEFINITELY aren't humans
So the diamond symbol connects to wasteland’s side in many ways, first of all, the first krill area seems to be almost identical to the forest temple, indicating they used the same architecture. And the masks on the wasteland spirits have diamond symbols, just like the forehead plate on teth. Also, the diamond symbol is seen on 2 castles in wasteland that look like the one on the shields. Diamond shaped symbols were said to represent use of technology and to be an artificial symbol unlike the flowing smooth feel of creatures and nature. I got that from the concept arts but anyways, forest is known for their use of industry and their production of the power diamonds. Now regarding the sun symbol, there is a building in eden
@that.cambion.nerd#1202 this is one of my old statements, Nooooo
Professional Liar
And the huge paragraph u sent of my theory woulda made more sense if u included the picture with it
Sky kids and cotl are the same thing
I don’t lie on this chat btw
Elders that accepted the technology: Forest and Vault
OOOOOO JAY
It’s played by millions of ppl lol
And wasteland***
It’s just that the lore is so vaguely given
Jay do u make those images?
It’s played by millions of ppl lol
@sly kestrel it has 10M downloads I honestly excepted 100M
And I doubt they will find anything
They need live-streams and the stuff we found
Mhhmm?
Wasteland has the natural symbol on the shield and that’s my theory of the faction going against the diamond production
They maked the technology on wasteland whitout the permission of the elder
But go ahead
And he might have destroyed it
Oooo
Oh I figured out Isle of Dawn's role in the manufacturing
Well, he has a diamond shield on the mural so that could’ve indicated that he used to be on their side of industry, but later he had the sun shield and this could mean that he changed sides and supported the light
The twins could be neutral
They simply thrived off of the diamonds
And Prairie and Isle werent affected yet
But they may were about to be affected but the war started
They didnt have diamond prudction or use of them at all, this was the early stage of the civilization where they used primitive tech
And Prairie and Isle werent affected yet
@hidden dagger there are spirits there though 👀
Dead ones
They did however help in the production process by delivering raw materials e.g. butterflies and birds
If they were involved with the war in some way, I’m pretty sure they would’ve been soldiers of the sun shield
Wait
Maybe the "wasteland army" went to Prairie and isle
But the "enemy soldiers" Killed the innocent
Are we talking about the different symbols on the shields?
Haha I jus made up that name
I’m not exactly sure about it being a sun, but the symbol is seen around things that....yk, involve natural light
So basically the circular shields are the good guys
the sun folk aka eden peeps
Ok to understand what went on with the war u sorta have to kno about the diamond production
Vault: technology
Wasteland: ok add on me
Vault: BAD TECHNOLOGY
Wasteland: no u me destroy and then make a rebelion
Did the isle elder send light in the form of birds to the forest?
Huh
Did the isle elder send light in the form of birds to the forest?
@round musk and butterflys
diamond production is a really polluting and corrupt process that basically means stuffing light creatures into pots and cramming them into the diamonds with other presumably 'darkness' materials
I’m confused about isle elder actually, never formed a theory about his purpose
Butterflies was prairie
Isle Elder and Prairie Elder maked the organic light
no there were butterflies in isle too
They can’t make light
They can’t make light
@sly kestrel explain how Prairie Elder makes butterflys
Welp he seems to be involved very little in the lore
They just sent creatures of light to be manufactured
...
they collect it in the form of creatures
Captured?
Faith trust and forms of creatures
Did U forget we gave him the light in the first place
Butterflys isn’t a word and maked isn’t a word either
I speak spanish too! ^_^
Ohhh it’s fine
o
Sorry
There are like almost no spanish users on sky
Wat does the prairie elder do with the fire again?
Maybe from 10 to 100
At the cinematic
Butterflyes
Did the isle elder create birds out of light?
Ok the elder cutscenes isn’t something with a clear picture, it’s a symbolic cutscene and what we see involves a lot of representation
The final custscene maybe the Vault elder started to regret the technology
They all did
Still there should be some info relevant to the lore that can made out of it
Since it started the war
Not jus the war, it destroyed everything and was the cause of their extinction
Rip
Was the elder there before the war even started?
They wouldn't be reconnecting with the light if they weren't regretful
Yep
yes
Br
The elders existed far before there even was a civilization
Yeah
The Elders are like gods or something
Maybe
Something like that
Or just powerful aliens
I mean....technically they are aliens
They fell from their world onto the “human” world and started making a civilization there
Lmao
Also skykids are technically aliens too
Does that make all gods aliens?
We aren’t from this world
Kinda
Hard to say
I jus kno that it was created and elders most likely helped them
Or helped the spirits atleast
Anyway, no one ever gave any insight about what this means in isle of dawn. Is the elder creating birds out of light? In that case, why did the light fall from the sky?
Moth 
Btw im not the moth
And as far as I know, no clear theories yet
It’s all jus us guessing, isle is a very mysterious place
No structures other than the tunnels and the ramps
Also that symbol seems to represent a lot of things
This might be a stoopid question but, did the elders already "fell" before all this happened or was them falling just a word similar to smth
Hes chonky not big
it's believed that the fall of the elders was first
then Sky was destroyed
then we came along
I think
thikn
So they basically fell because of smth and they helped a civilization to be destroyed then we come and save them
pretty much, yes
The very first wall art we see in the game is of people catching those glowing things falling from the sky. Anyone have any ideas as to what those symbols might represent?
Theres only 7 elders that fell right? But are there more elders that havent gotten yeeted yet?
yeah, 7 elders
the Eden elder is not confirmed to be in game
so we only know for sure that the 7 elders have fallen (and exist)
6 elders fell, one in middle is child of light
wouldn't it technically be 7 because twins?
Oh
or are they counted as one?
Yeet
Well....eh ig that could count as one
tbh, your reaction was my thoughts as first too
So 8 elders with eden
if there is an eden elder
Or are there more elders and more lvls? Ik it sounds stupid
no??
That haven’t fallen yet
7th was the king but he was a long lost concept character
And yea no more elders
No more realms
It’s confirmed
there's no more confirmed elders
Oki
just the 6/7 in-game now (Isle-Vault)
Each realm represents a stage of life so they won’t add anything else
if they did, they would probably have to retcon some stuff
I don’t think it’s possible, they got everything
agreed
Birth, childhood, teen years, adulthood, mid life crisis, old age/enlightenment and death
Ig orbit counts as rebirth but that’s about it
Yeah it adds so much more meaning to the game looking at it through a metaphorical lense
I didn’t know that represented anything that’s cewl
I feel like im in a midlife crisis so ive been hanging around in wasteland a lot lately
More like a pre-life crisis but still
I’m prob on the younger end of the spectrum
@sly kestrel You don't have any thoughts on the very first cave art in isle?
With the light orb things falling from the sky?
the light orb?
that s another life coming into existence
being reborn and sent back to childhood
ig lol idk
That's actually a great theory
OHHHHH
Those were the elders falling
Identified as stars in the intro
But later confirmed that they were the 6 elders
So how do you explain why the isle residents were carrying the elders to the temple?
I mean... they fell from the sky
Then it looks like isle elder is turning them into birds
Maybe they fell in order and the isle elder is telling them that theres more elders falling? Idk
The murals are super vauge
Perfect for theorizing though
I think wat the isle elder is doing there is that hes telling a story about where the elders came from
The way the elder is pointing on the sky and how the stars are arranged seems like that to me
I think those are birds not stars
No the big cirlces
Why would the elders be falling from a flock of birds though
Where are u guys getting birds
Do they fly on the ground?
In the isle elder cutscene he raises his staff and controls the direction of the birds flying overhead
Was explaining smth about the mural
How do u know that?
The mural can mean anything
Ok the elder cutscenes isn’t something with a clear picture, it’s a symbolic cutscene and what we see involves a lot of representation
@sly kestrel
Sorry for the ping
Then where wat could the big stars mean?
Those circles also seem to represent the elders btw
Are they falling while the spirits are kneeling and the elder is controlling the birds?
Wel ye that was my point
They're not falling, look at the picture above it
No elders were already on the ground
The stars are the symbols that the elders had when they fell
I think wat the isle elder is doing there is that hes telling a story about where the elders came from
@frozen pivot
Did u jus quote yaself
Too lazy to retype it
Idk it looks like the people are bringing the stars to the temple, where the elder then does... whatever he's doing with them.
You have to look at the first picture
Also, anyone think these birds are being sent by isle elder to be diamond molded?
I guess theyre just drawn to the light
I think they're ultimately headed to orbit
Or orbs
People keep saying that there’s no canon eden elder this isn’t true there is an eden elder, they’re just beyond saving
Also the Vault elder does ascend because we can see them in orbit if you complete their constellation
What do they look like? I don’t know if I’ve paid enough attention to notice them
We don’t know if it’s what they looked like before death, but their “soul” is the CoL we hug after dying in Eden
Sky kids=/=elders
I always figured that was another part of us, the player, kind of “making ourself whole again” or coping with the trauma of going through Eden edit: maybe even the disconnect between the player and our character
I thought the CoL we hug is just a random placed skykid if you didn't complete Eden with a friend
The elders and sky kids are subspecies of CoL, it’s unsure if the ancestors were also CoL but the answer to that is probably yes
If you die after your friend does, the skykid appears as your friend
Whered u get that hage?
From a live-stream!
It’s always appeared blank to me, regardless of if I went through with a friend
Huh. Maybe you died first?
The note from the quote in the livestream said "subspecies probably"
And saying probably to smth doesnt mean theyre certain of it
The CoL we see after dying in Eden is definitely the king, that’s what the game files say (disclaimer: don’t look at the game files)
Subspecies is the closest approximation to what the difference between the elders and kids are
It’s probably more accurate to identify the difference as different types of golems
Because we know that the elders were always elders (which implies they were made that way)
That would also mean that the cotl we collect around and give on the statues are elders that somehow fell without deforming
To elders we know fell
The winged light=/= children of light
When you say col do you mean players?
Winged lights are “imprints” left behind by a “child of light” we have a “connection” to
Child of light doesn’t refer to the players but all of the megabird’s children
I thought we were? Like the megabird sent the players down to try and fix stuff
The term child of light encompasses the players but doesn’t exclusively refer to them
Ok so is the being referred to as the child of light the same person as the king?
We don’t know
Could you send some screenshots? Also what else are col?
The child of light could be the king but all I kno is that it’s a separate being than us
We jus look like him/her
Also I thought the king was supposed to be evil and vain and whatnot, why would he attach to a sky kid?
There are different concepts of the king so it’s hard to say
The being that left behind the winged light I used to think for sure was the same as the one we hug, but then we got confirmation that the hug child is the king so 
Confirmation?
From the game files (that we shouldn’t have looked at)
Ig I won’t believe it until I see it 🙂
You can’t just say “the game files” and not show anything,,,
I mean its part of lore hunting
The devs have said before that they don’t want people rooting around the game files
If they gave info about the lore this vague, it wouldnt be a surprise if people resort to finding clues on game files itself
But ye
Its not cool
So what’s to say they haven’t intentionally mislabeled things to send people on a wild goose chase
Lore hunting doesn’t mean breaking the rules of this server
Exactly^^
Anything posted here that is due to ripping game files will be removed

So why are those pictures still up?
Were you there during the 12 Days of Forbidden Knowledge? Someone snuck into the archives of Vault and found something they shouldn’t have 
What?
What do you think caused all that damage 👀
Oh! The 12 Days are back haha
must have been a lapse in my memory 
Oooh they were explaining the new area at belonging and how it was filled with forbidden knowledge and stuff
It was said that ruin and long decay caused belonging spirit to sneak in but I believe others snuck in as well
I personally find it extremely hilarious that 12 days of chat we’re missing for a few minutes there 
The whale is on my mind right now, I just want to know more about it.
It's such an intriguing being in the game to me. I just wonder if we'll ever see more of them soon??
ah- i flew incredibly fast through eden and got really close to the whale as it was ascending
and i must say. that lad is MASSIVE
i love it
i always thought the head of a whale had a mask on it
Whales are basically a very large hybrid of the coelacanth and dunkleosteus
Neither of which are remotely related to real whales lol
I believe it started as a fan name and it grew to be canon but idk
Those creatures seem to be references tho, nice observation 🤜🏻
Wait I always thought it was a slug ._.
Lol
:')
From these concept sketches it looks like they were originally designed to resemble actual whales much more
New dark creatures > literally any other creature
It's not new! :D but I believe they readded it
It's for the accessibility for that wing they put up there and for future stuff
That was actually something from season of lightseekers
I believe they are prepping for a traveling spirit
...wdym
It was the path to get the seasonal spirit
It was actually pretty stressful, it was a carry spirit and if u dropped it....well ya had to start all over
I barely remember but in gratitude there were platforms like this too
It was to get the dragon mask 
The spirit ended at the very top with the pillars
If u still don’t remember, jus go on YouTube and look at the seasonal spirit guide. Watch nastymold or sumtin
Those moving platforms were from both the Gratitude and Lightseekers season!
Yep! The spirit would float to different places and you would have to use the platforms to reach the spirit memory poses.
I remember sometime when we were discussing birds and bird landing spots. I just wanted to confirm they do land at the ark! Whenever said that you were right!
If anyone else knows any other spots they land besides the ark and the social area in prairie let me know I'm gonna be studying the birds I think.
Ia krill a bird?
What do you mean?
Haha nah I'm messing around
OH WORKKDKEKE
Valley citadel and flying race area got bird, forest going in cloud tunnel and underground got bird
Okay! I'll go check out those areas. What I'm specifically looking for is where they land! :o so if you know if any places beside the ark and prairie social area feel free to let me know!
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hello luke
Heey!
got any theories?
I don't have :/
so if these arent manta bones thennn at least it confirms the presence of another winged animal besides mantas and birdss
it looks more like a bird
I always thought they were manta bones, since a ghost manta pops up when you use Normal Manta call to complete the "quest"
It’s the bones of the baby manta 
theres a discussion abt whether or not theyre manta bones or not bc
a) mantas and krills and other animals can fly through solid objects
and b) the anatomy of the bones doesnt quite shape up to fit a manta
i personally like to believe its manta bones, but there's always the occasion where im wrong
so ill entertain the idea that theyre not
I also initially thought it was manta bones because baby manta spirit
RL manta skels mostly cartilage
but yes, a manta is possible
some says they don't but I think they do
It is the same principle like the whale bone and sound at hidden forest
For me i think at least it is
u can see my awful sketches of manta bones here
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/716964953482985531
So I’ve been wondering about connections btw Prairie/Forest caves; both have odd features that aren’t in the rest of their realms
Like iirc Prairie has water only in caves, nowhere else; Sunny Forest (incl caves) is the only part of Forest with clouds other than entrance/exit areas— could they have been physically connected somehow? Deep underground bargeway/mineshafts?
maybe
I personally like to believe that neither ghost mantas nor ghost whales have skeletons while alive, but when they die their bodies congeal into solid bone-like structures
also there are clouds in the hidden areas
the 8 spirit gate
but yeah, forest and prarie look alike in the cloud areas
Wdym by the 8 spirit gate?
could have been a rainer, wetter section of prarie for all we know
Wdym by the 8 spirit gate?
@round musk the sunny area in forest
Oooh it's been so long since I payed attention to the gate requirements lol
Np
I was thinking of main Sunny as an extension of its caves (tho istr hearing that the caves were a later addition gamewise)
But does the Prairie water relate to Forest’s river somehow
Esp the P cave workshop with the butterfly jars w lil dark plants
Tho originally the P caves were much more elevated from the central area— used to be huge cliffs that moths slid off
forest could be connected to prarie in some ways, like eg the closeness of the two, the similarities of the "dry zones" and the spinny temple thingies that you melt the darkness off. but the water caves are pretty far away from the sunny area in forest, so it would have to be a REALLY long connection
sorry if i ddint understand what you were asking my brain is functioning at 50% today


ooh hello Jay
Ur username concerns me
meh I’m just tossing ideas around all random like moth nav splat
tossing ideas are good!
I for one am not surprised that anyone could surpass crabs’ guitar-playing abilities oh wait no
got nothing to do but toss ideas around
so is tossing crabs
But catapults won’t yeet crabs iirc
hey they wanted to fight first >: (
I’m also slightly concerned

They look like origami legs
Tho I was also considering crabs as butterflies gone really, really wrong— they circle around and rush twd you but instead of recharging your light they boop it off
Also this might be slightly unrelated, but any guesses to why I look cursed
I’m the chibi
chibis can be your angle or yuor devil
those eyes.......
Is that game mechanics or lore
game mechanics
It’s the only stance that does this
chibis also have expressive eyes
chibi eyes move when using the sleepy emote from enchantment
I think it’s interesting that we have chibis in a game of skykids
skybabies
We’re already small compared to the spirits and chibis are even smaller
Also chibi is the only height that can be controlled/chosen
are the spirits really tall or are we just short
Yes
yup
idk i just assumed chibi mask was also just a fun game mechanic
lore on chibi mask.......... wild
Do table lore next
I mean it technically is a game mechanic
how does it expand-
But we don’t have a super tall mechanic
There used to be 😔
What
Where u can be as tall as a spirit
😮
We were robbed
Boom stick is technically part of lore bc we see them in Prairie cave workshop
And there was one where u can be a MINIIIII mini chibi
Yeah, the fireworks
It was like the cutest thing ever
And how do we lore new rainbow spell what is why how
i mean... if u really wanna.... a rainbow is just light reflected off of water iirc
mayb its just skykids controlling light to make rainbows using water
shrug shrug
i once trolled a bunch of players by spawning a rainbow in the main oart of wasteland
But rainbows also depend on specific angle btw light source/viewer/refracty things
i wouldn't BUT it is fun to theorize on silly things
Main Forest rainbow is impossible to reconcile with planetary/realm mechanics
Bc why would it only apoear at certain times if it’s always the same time of day
For fun.....
Jus like oreo
Also magic of sorts
Someone has to’ve rainbowed inside Eden already
me i have

so, anyone know about the monster thing in prarie?
But, we all need a break sometimes so how bout we jus theorize about fun stuff

yup!
Monster?
prairie?
yeah, theres a sort of dark statue thing under the cave in prarie
(Mushroom flashbacks now)
THE WHO
Oh btw Forest mantas got grubby
they look shiny
Temporary bug
forest,wasteland and vault do be the most technologically advanced
Was wondering if the mantas has the light squeezed outta them
forest strikes again
forest,wasteland and vault do be the most technologically advanced
@pulsar nova valley?
Valley does have citadel doing whatever it does
spinny orb
U guys wanna take a break from lore for a lil bit and laugh at something
Valley does have citadel doing whatever it does
@celest spoke it’s an armillary sphere fortress
But uhhh
LMAO WHA T
Seraph don’t come at me 
finally the way to beat krills
mods are typing...
run
Delete discord 😂
Ktjn is out for blood 
Ktjn gonna boop you with laser eye
a collective beaning
What happens if you nitro krill
... like nitro boost?
foom
foom
Maybe test nitro on crabs first

crab walk cycle
its really fun 
i used to have a theory abt journey havng a war with sky peeps
And what the murals nthings mean
Plot twist: Skykids fall through time warp into Flower game
Bonus points for including Abzu
journey is earth, sky is fire, flower is air, and flow is water
it all changed when the skykids attacked
Agni Kai with crab emote
oh yeah
if you go OOB in valley, and go to the twins temple, the bridge thing behind the stadium is broken
and its the same for all models
Bridge thing?
is it just a easter egg?
yeah hang on
the pathway behind the valley temple
i cant send photos rn
I think OOBs are gen’ly considered questionable as lore tho fun— I mean valley temple OOB is floating over ocean instead of planted on ice mountain etc
all the OOBs like that haha
Diving off Prairie cave oob in one direction plops you into invisible water waaaay below
And Ark oob has the old pool of toxic oil under new clean pool
Tho we should prb make distinction btw cutscene oobs and non-cutscenes
But lore
Is new Ark store lore-compatible, or just game mechanic?
So did we refurbish spellmaking widgets dug up from the sand?
Or is quest spirit still kinda supervising spell production
They were scholars, Thas why
Scholars seeking prosperity tho
The ark was like their car
If u were a rockstar with a nice van, wouldn’t u dump all ur guitars and stuff in there
Scholars need to live too
Sailing around in search of VCs to fund IPO
me and the scholars pulling up in the new ark
wanna make Ark a lowrider
Ok just add spinners to the oars and bling on a spoiler

Gonna take my ark to the old town road
gonna, craaaaash it into the sand
im in me mums ark
I think I had enough internet for today
Get out me ark
You never sneep Jay
Noooo I broke lore again

imagine getting a big ark containing all sorts of magical light capable of healing a wasteland just for short fire kiddins to step on it
We could heal the rest of the realm NAH JUST RAINBOW EVERYTHING
why isnt there a ban emote-
Do you remember what the seasonal task spirit said for each colored lights?
The descriptions of where the lights were?
Like... For the orange light he Desired warmth or something
Orange light was something like brings warmth to a cold place, sounds more like valley tbh
Ahh thanks
there are descriptions for lights in there
What do people think the forest temple used as a resource to manufacture crystals?
😂
Way too lazy to explain again holup
So this is about the theory of diamond production and the purpose of flying boats. Boats are mainly for the use of carrying pots of light. You can see these pots of light being made at prairie and I say pots of light because there are butterflies put inside them. In the wave emote cutscene, u can actually see one of the flying boats carrying pots of light.
These pots are being shipped to forest to make power diamonds, they combine the light with organic material at forest and use a diamond press to combine them into an artificial Star, or what we call “power diamond”. You can actually see the concept of this by looking at the forest temple door mural. To add even more details, right when u enter forest the text on the bottom says to “find the source of an ancient power”. The pic below is another way of looking how power diamonds are made and how forest built them. This diamond press in the picture is also seen at the golden wasteland, and there’s a krill flying around it. It may be broken down but it is noticeable that it is the same factory. Also the shipwreck at wasteland is seen to be carrying certain pieces of this diamond press, it goes to the top and sides. Now I know there’s boats everywhere and not all of them are carrying pots of light, so I jus assume they are for transportation since the people on the ground can’t fly naturally
Is that good enough cluepod
Is ur head clear now
woo!
Well I hope it is
:0
Those trapped mantas in the temple could be one of the few possibilities
Huh
the mantas could've broken free
that also explains why the spirits were mining and all
I was asking because it seems suspicious that the birds are flying straight to the top of the temple, and the top of the machine is where the light is injected
They didn’t mine...
Minecraft has left the chat long ago
i was refrencing the crying spirits
Ohhh
they could have been gathering materials
No they weren’t mining, they were using the pickaxe to help get their friends out of the rocks but they ended up dying
o
I saw it like a trap since someone say that the dark plant might be the main ingredient, and it might feeds off light creatures like trapped mantas
But, mining for materials could be a possibility
my bad again-
Why did they conveniently have pickaxes while they were in a cave?
Like I said it could be a possibility
Why did they conveniently have pickaxes while they were in a cave?
@round musk maybe... They're miners
their friend could have been stuck and they rushed to get them out and brought pickaxes
In the end they all died 
Which makes all of us cry
The cry spirit story hit me the most
so the tiny rocks were graves?
oj okay
But u can still write urs, I was jus....kidding
Well, there is a pathway of rock stairs so she prolly made that to get out finally
But I believe in the end, she went back in the cave to make the graves and to.....you kno
Cherish their memory, this is where she cried 😕
It’s not uncommon to visit the places where a loved one died, and there were graves there so she prolly wanted to remember them
Would’ve been so wholesome if we were able to hug the cry spirit in the end 
What do you guys think the beam of light at the top of the forest temple is?
That shows up when u honk
Well....either that or it’s a glitch
Cuz it wasn’t naturally put there
Huh I must be remembering wrong then
Yea it’s a glitch, doesn’t show up for me
I just watched the final cutscene for Season of Enchantment and where I expected a lore dump I got a wholesome video.
Not complaining tho
U should’ve seen my rant yesterday 😂😂.....😔
I had to find a youtube vid because my parents inevitably made me switch off my phone the second I started it myself
Does anyone has any idea about a dead bird in front of the citadel in valley?
It’s something leftover from beta
Back then there was a quest where u would meditate next to it and ur job was to collect lights around the citadel
And then u would get a candle
I always assumed it was a snow sculpture
Hello
@round musk, just something I noticed.
The beam coming from the forest temple looks
1, like the ones on the fragments of light
2, like the one coming from Eden
Just something to think about
Also, I have some questions
I’m thinking about really focusing on the history of Sky, could people just spitball some theories that have been touched on?
Power diamond theory
Two shields theory
Those are two of the more popular ones. You can use the search bar to learn more about them
Also the Lightseekers-Vault-Enchantment connection
That one is a bit newer
Cool. I’ll look those up in a sec, but could I get some other perspectives on some theories my dad and I have?
Hi Mochi
Theories are always welcome here!
Also, check out the pins! There’s lots of info there too, including a doc of everything that has been confirmed to be part of the lore
And lots of really cool concept art that isn’t really canon, but it gives an idea of some of the inspiration/beginnings of what the game is now
Aight. So...
1: the trees in Sky are petrified, that’s why there aren’t any leaves
2: Eden is a somehow-explosive shield volcano that is erupting
3: there’s another game coming
It would be nice if there was something new on the horizon, but Sky isn’t even a year old yet
I think TGC is mostly focusing on porting to new platforms and stabilizing the game, as well as adding new content to Sky
And the power diamond theory explains your second one








