lore-discussion-spoilers

[sly ruin]

Also it’s fun to see in the Wastelands that the ancestors had plumbing haha

[night sleet]

Hmm. Well the forest water the sometimes live in isn’t dark

But maybe the forest crabs (and valley and vault) are different types then wasteland crabs. I don’t know much lore so if they are then I didn’t know

[sly ruin]

I do notice that some of the crabs look bigger & more aggressive the closer we get to Eden

[night sleet]

He. The forest ones can also all be held, but some in wasteland can’t. So I agree, I think they get darker as the get closer to Eden

[zinc arrow]

i wonder how though..

[night sleet]

Hmm. Anyone have an idea why they’re not in Eden?

[frosty helm]

Maybe krill eat them?

[zinc arrow]

they get blown away by the wind ig

[frosty helm]

But we don't have any evidence of that

[night sleet]

Maybe they all hide

[craggy nexus]

There are some in Eden though? In the big... telescope looking building with water on the floor and the little red bits in the walls?

[mortal ice]

You all see the red crabs?

[night sleet]

Oh there are crabs! I forgot about those guys

[sly kestrel]

Not jus eden, there are a lot of different crabs, some white and huge

Some dark and small

They vary throughout the realms, not jus eden

[frosty helm]

So they do exist there

[night sleet]

Hm

[frosty helm]

I'm still gonna draw crabspawn tho

[night sleet]

Yeah I forgot about em

[desert sun]

pretty much in every realm

minus isle

[night sleet]

Hm

Prarie to?

[sly kestrel]

Actually idk I haven’t been to eden in a while but if I remember correctly, the crabs in eden aren’t even that big

[desert sun]

and prairie

[night sleet]

Hm

[sly kestrel]

They jus vary

[night sleet]

Can’t remember but ok

[desert sun]

you can tell how big they are based on if you can pick them up or not

[night sleet]

Yeah, you can pick up the smaller ones

[desert sun]

mhm, big ones like in valley cant be picked up

[spring blaze]

the bigger crabs were added during belonging

[night sleet]

Oh

[spring blaze]

im assuming those bigger crabs are for food lol

[night sleet]

Maybe.

[desert sun]

i find it funny that spirits can eat dark creatures like crab

or at least that they tried to

[frosty helm]

you can find a spit cooking three dark crabs in Wasteland

[desert sun]

exactly

[craggy nexus]

The ones getting cooked are HUGE

[frosty helm]

Oh yeah

[hollow dirge]

wait-

there’s crabs in prarie?!

oh

sorry

nvm-

[frosty helm]

So how many colors of crabs are there?

[sly ruin]

White, grey....I think there’s a reddish one?? But don’t quote me on that haha

[frosty helm]

Isn't brown the most common?

Or is that just my color blindness laughing at me?

[night sleet]

U dunno

I dunno

[torn silo]

Just notice it’s not a line of any mantas together. Is it ghost krill? Or what?

[frosty helm]

Ghost krill would be cool

[torn silo]

But they’re different in shape

[cold steppe]

it kind of looks like a sea slug

[frosty helm]

It would be really cool if they added an ocean area that comes before Isle

[sly kestrel]

What we see in the ascent of vault is more of a dream like sequence and what u see might not be real at all

Details of vault were hinted over and over again by the devs

But that creature is called the cosmic whale, and those are his/her 2 kids

[frosty helm]

So the Vault of Knowledge is all in our own heads... I feel like there's a powerful metaphor going on here

[sly kestrel]

It was said that each vault level represents a different stage

So most likely that level represents wasteland, cuz it was known for it’s whales and bones

[torn silo]

Interesting... but why we still found spirits in any stage on our dream? Is it dream connected to the afterlife? So it’s not a regular dream

[frosty helm]

Its our dream and theirs

I'll see if I can get a better scan later, but for now... behold my Crablet Spawnlings:

[zinc arrow]

*pats*

ive been thinking abt the vault and its elder for awhile tbh i swear its not bc theyre my favourite one

[hushed steeple]

@frosty helm Exactly!!! With tides! Caves! Sea creatures... And waves to surf!!!

[zinc arrow]

i dont know whats up with me and always getting attached to characters who cant let go of the past even if i didnt know at the time 😔
but yeah hearing that the floors are just a dream is very interesting. its a dream entirely (at least mostly) by the elder and you're there to experience it. the spirits might be dead friends the elder was close to or just important people/researchers. and the elder has been in this dream for who knows long. in their cutscene they seem sad to let the dream/past (the diamond) go, but they do and in turn destroy the platform thats been taking you up the level and accept that we must move on

[lethal stump]

Maybe they were the last to die of the elders ?

[zinc arrow]

anyway im not completely sure what that paragraph was but. "The new area (Archive) was a highly restricted area. No one should enter." is an interesting statement from the jpn devs

most likely

[frosty helm]

Slowly watching the rest of their people die and knowing that it was only a matter of time until the same fate consumed them, and so they constructed a mighty tower from which they could project the memories of them and their other people so that whoever remained could remember them...

[zinc arrow]

yeah!

[frosty helm]

Sometimes you just gotta wonder if the game devs just throw random things into the game and make us write the lore...

[zinc arrow]

oh absolutely. they made it ambiguous on purpose

[lethal stump]

Dev 1: hey, what’s the story behind [thing] ? I missed the meeting
Dev 2: we dunno
Dev 1: ???
Dev 2: just make the players figure it out
Dev 1: I like how you think

[frosty helm]

Dev 2: So what did they figure out?

[lethal stump]

Dev 1: they’re still talking about mega bird

[frosty helm]

And speculizing about baby Dark Crabs

[lethal stump]

dev 2: what about [thing] ?! We put it in there to help them figure it out !
Dev 1: apparently baby crabs are more important

[night sleet]

Baby crabs :)

[zinc arrow]

Dev 2: are they at least talking about the walk cycle hint?
Dev 1: nope, just baby

[lethal stump]

Dev 2: these players are a bigger mystery than the story of the game....

[sly kestrel]

Ohhh the archive is the 2 person door that has the purple light

It was a new area added in the belonging season

[frosty helm]

I think we switched Dev numbers XD

[mellow sable]

oh my god i just had a big brain moment

[frosty helm]

What is it?

[mellow sable]

the manta "eye" looks like a diamond/star

[sly kestrel]

The story of it is that it holds forbidden knowledge that’s kept hidden and highly restricted, but as time passed, the place became more ruined and holes were formed and small entry points made it possible for ppl to sneak in

[zinc arrow]

oooh and someone accidentally spilled their transparent kool-aid

[sly kestrel]

Literally like a million things in sky are diamond shaped

[mellow sable]

yes

your point

pun not intended

[sly kestrel]

I’m jus sayin a diamond eye doesn’t much.....say anything
Unless u found something

[astral basin]

do any of u have theories on what the weird statue in wasteland graveyard next to the catapult is ?

[zinc arrow]

yknow what thats wack actually i headcanoned thats where my skykid lived for a long time
but anyway are u trying to hint that the mantas are part of the technology?

[frosty helm]

Isn't that the guy who was shooting the darned thing?

[astral basin]

darned thing ?

[sly kestrel]

No it’s a statue

[zinc arrow]

idk what statue ur talking about

[frosty helm]

So are the Fallen

[mellow sable]

no no

[sly kestrel]

And no mantas are completely natural creatures

[frosty helm]

I'll go check it out (am in Golden Wasteland rn)

[mellow sable]

im trying to say that what if manta are ALSO stars

[astral basin]

this thing

[mellow sable]

we see them go into orbit

[sly kestrel]

Yea it’s a statue

[mellow sable]

i think thats the elder

[zinc arrow]

OH. that theyre like related? well yeah

[sly kestrel]

Elder....? No

[astral basin]

the elder ? just hanging out next to the catapult ?

eh

[mellow sable]

a statue of the elder

[sly kestrel]

Looks nothing like the elder

[mellow sable]

duh

[astral basin]

i dont think the elder is this small

[mellow sable]

thats the only buff spirit in wasteland iirc

[sly kestrel]

It’s not a spirit either

[astral basin]

it's just a statue

[sly kestrel]

It’s not uncommon to put a statue of a soldier next to a weapon

[astral basin]

it's like the only humanoid statue i've seen

[mellow sable]

anyways, back to mantas

theyre stars

[sly kestrel]

That....huh?

How?

Jus cuz they have a diamond eye?

[mellow sable]

we see them go in orbit

and theyre made of light

[sly kestrel]

A creatures natural life is to migrate to orbit, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they are stars

[mellow sable]

then what ARE the mantas

theyre clearly alive

[zinc arrow]

i can see where ur going with this but theyre just creatures

"light" creatures

[cold steppe]

they're creatures of light

[sly kestrel]

Born from light

[frosty helm]

Is it possible to see Eden from Wasteland?

[sly kestrel]

There was even a dev talk about it how they can form in the clouds

And no it’s not bc golden wasteland is RLLLY close to the mountain underneath

Ok so valley is where the edge of the mountain is at, wasteland is under, and vault is in the middle. When you ascent in vault, u go directly to the top of eden

[frosty helm]

That's kewl

[cold steppe]

you can see the mountain of Eden from an oob area in Wasteland

[zinc arrow]

cloudy

[cold steppe]

but no, you can't see Eden from Wasteland proper

[sly kestrel]

Yea, you have to go ABOVE the clouds

[hardy crown]

@cold steppe wait how

[frosty helm]

Lots and Lots of winged light

[cold steppe]

piggyback rocket is how we did it

plus tables

[hardy crown]

ohhh

[frosty helm]

Or that

[cold steppe]

to get that high

it's a really fun oob

[hardy crown]

thank u imma try it lmao

[cold steppe]

to get as high as we got, you'll need tables

piggyback will hit a wall eventually

[frosty helm]

Tables are my fav

Once someone put one in the path that the Season Boat went

It almost knocked me off

[cold steppe]

I'm wondering about the lore of some of the cosmetics

it's been a while since I've relived some of the memories, but like the table spirit, did that spirit just carry a chair around??

[spring blaze]

[torn silo]

Levitate spirit bring a chair in his back and climb up a cliff thing. I think it’s the way he could get a levitation ability so he teach us how to get that too.

[spring blaze]

i realized that the capes the spirits sell matches their realm lol

[mellow sable]

oh yeah huh

prairie has yellow

[frosty helm]

Who wouldn't want to carry a chair on their back?

[mellow sable]

forest has purple and teal

[spring blaze]

valley has pink and red
waste has green and black
and vault has white

[mellow sable]

white and indigo

[spring blaze]

i forgot where navy blue is though

ahhh

[mellow sable]

wasteland has the puke cape

[spring blaze]

isle has no capes bc moths start capeless owoowowowo

[mellow sable]

technically isle has brown

and it makes sense

[spring blaze]

for moths

[mellow sable]

what with all the sand

[spring blaze]

mothmothmoth

[torn silo]

We all were moth

[cold steppe]

I think navy blue is Vault

but wow, TIL (or I guess Today I Realized) that the colors correspond

super cool

[frosty helm]

OoOoOH

I had AWESOME idea!

[spring blaze]

ik the emotes corresponds to the realms but i was wondering if any of the cosmetics matches their realms too

[frosty helm]

Dark moth children with dark capes!

[sly kestrel]

I have some cosmetic lore 🥺

[cold steppe]

give

please

[torn silo]

Tell us

[frosty helm]

Speak, Jay! We shall not chastise you (probably)

[spring blaze]

does anyone have any lore for the music sheets??

[mellow sable]

salute has the firework staff to alert nearby sheets

[spring blaze]

the base ones, not the seasonals

[frosty helm]

Nope

[spring blaze]

cus im wondering if the sheets has lore too for the longest time

[mellow sable]

bird call is probably his song

[frosty helm]

They prob do

Because they're kinda rare

[low mist]

every time i'm on pinterest and searching for something scotl related, i see this guy in the middle? who is he 😳

[sly kestrel]

That’s the quest giver for the season of rhythm

[mellow sable]

rhythm quest giver!

[spring blaze]

thats the rhythm quest giver

[frosty helm]

I have not been playing this game long enough...

[spring blaze]

they were very well loved

[low mist]

why he kinda hot doe..

[cold steppe]

no

[low mist]

i meannnnn

[spring blaze]

probably the most popular quest giver

[cold steppe]

very popular

[low mist]

the hair is so cute 🥺

im a sucker for v-shaped bangs

[spring blaze]

that was an ultimate reward!

[sly kestrel]

But anyways, this is prolly obvious already but.....u guys kno how each elder mask is available? Well except for valley but
Each elder mask actually has a different meaning and

NO

[cold steppe]

would say Grandma is most popular

[sly kestrel]

GRANDMA WAS MOST FAMOUS

CHANGE

[low mist]

WHOS GRANDMA

[sly kestrel]

My MIND

[spring blaze]

the belonging quest giver!

[low mist]

gogole time

[cold steppe]

it's fixed

Jay, finish your thoughts

[sly kestrel]

It was the quest giver for belonging season

[cold steppe]

!wiki @low mist

[pastel brook]

https://sky-children-of-the-light.fandom.com/wiki/Sky:_Children_of_the_Light_Wiki

[low mist]

gradnma.........

[spring blaze]

heY i said the rhythm quest giver was probably the most popular quest giver!! i didnt say they were my favourite

[mellow sable]

what about the elder masks?

I know prairie is shaped like a boat

[sly kestrel]

No

[spring blaze]

grandma has my heart

[mellow sable]

forest is shaped like a diamond

[sly kestrel]

Isle is a boat

[mellow sable]

oh oops

[spring blaze]

isle’s shaped like a boat

[low mist]

heart been broke so many times i i dont know what to believeeee yeahhhhhhhh

[mellow sable]

pot

not boat

[spring blaze]

prairie is a pot

[cold steppe]

emanon, what are you even searching?

[mellow sable]

I wonder why isle is a boat

wasteland kinda looks like a krill tbh

[torn silo]

@low mist search in youtube. There a lot of then.

[mellow sable]

other than the obvious battle helmet thing

[sly kestrel]

isle is a boat bc....well actually idk but isle is known for its boats, praire is a pot for its pot production and forest is a diamond

Wasteland is interesting

raf I’m actually shocked you don’t know this

[mellow sable]

hm?

[sly kestrel]

Wasteland helmet.....is a whale skull

[mellow sable]

really???

[cold steppe]

ohh yeah

[mellow sable]

ooooooh

[cold steppe]

has it been confirmed that that was a whale?

[mellow sable]

that has

[cold steppe]

I wasn't sure

that's really cool

[mellow sable]

some pretty dark implications

[cold steppe]

but also brings up questions, yeah

[mellow sable]

what did you do wasteland senpai

[cold steppe]

are they wearing the mask of their fallen enemy, or the mask of an ally to respect them

[frosty helm]

Perhaps both?

[cold steppe]

though does that factor into the TS theory?

[low mist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp3iDVW2tBs&feature=youtu.be WH, AT IS THIS

[cold steppe]

old oob

[spring blaze]

thats a whale

[sly kestrel]

Whale belly

[spring blaze]

the** whale

[torn silo]

The whale graveyard and a whale kinda look like mask. Maybe whale was a war vehicle

Against krills

[spring blaze]

here’s grandma!!

[cold steppe]

grandma!!!

[sly kestrel]

I figured it showed like.....a symbol of strength
Kinda how ancient tribes use animal masks for their meaning, or representation. It prolly symbolizes their strength.....and the whale is pretty strong. Also, there are bodies of whales in the graveyard as well

So...the connection between whales and wasteland is pretty strong

[hushed steeple]

Wow

[frosty helm]

I now want to write a narrative about the tragic past of Sky

[sly kestrel]

I have a theory on the diamond mask but it’s not ready yet

[hushed steeple]

I have just reached level 2 but its so beautiful

[sly kestrel]

Oh....tragic huh

[spring blaze]

i mean no ones stopping you chan

[sly kestrel]

U wanna kno sumtin channel k

[hushed steeple]

Im so impressed with the game

[sly kestrel]

We all know creatures all migrate to orbit and this is their cycle of life. And I’ve seen concepts of something that makes sense. When a creature’s body is left behind, it means it died of an unnatural cause. Such as.....m u r d e r
And u can only imagine what happened at the graveyard..

[mellow sable]

mass slaughter

[spring blaze]

its called graveyard for a reason

[frosty helm]

All the more content for me to write!

[mellow sable]

oh wait

[frosty helm]

Will get back to y'all in a year or two, depending on how much I procrastinate

[spring blaze]

those bones are too close for them to die at the same area, they were probably brought there to decay

[mellow sable]

there's three main skeletons in graveyard right?

[sly kestrel]

I thought of it being a dump site too

But

[cold steppe]

also aren't the graveyard bones black

[frosty helm]

Also IK that the conversation has long sinced moved on from here but here's Crablet Spawnlings 2.0:

[sly kestrel]

How are they supposed to dump creatures 100 times their size and we don’t see any equipment....

[mellow sable]

if there are three big skeletons, what if what those things were became the krill?

[frosty helm]

Krill are whale ghosts?

[sly kestrel]

Kril are entirely different and...they actually have no bones

No they are 2 different species

Way different

Corrupted or not, they are no where near the same

[mellow sable]

ghost manta are memories so they don't really count as a species

but you gotta admit

krill are the same size as whales

[spring blaze]

here

[sly kestrel]

No

[mellow sable]

it's certainly within the realm of possibility

[spring blaze]

from reika’s art station

[sly kestrel]

Krill are 3 times smaller

[cold steppe]

aren't whales bigger?

[frosty helm]

I'm thinking that everything light has a dark counterpart, and the dark whale is the krill

[mellow sable]

they are???

[sly kestrel]

Whales are extremely bigger

[mellow sable]

I always saw them as being roughly the same

[sly kestrel]

U should take a closer look

[mellow sable]

but then again

[spring blaze]

whales are definitely bigger

[mellow sable]

without the bones, they WOULD be smaller

[frosty helm]

^ ^ ^

[sly kestrel]

Middle message ^

[cold steppe]

Whale

It’s not a great picture

Better one

[frosty helm]

They're pretty big

[hollow dirge]

i wish there was some kind of story behind krills-

[sly kestrel]

We actually have no idea what the creatures in graveyard are, she jus said they are based on whales and sea turtles but we can’t say for sure what they are

And woah

That is a good pic

[hollow dirge]

they seem very fascinating

[cold steppe]

I didn't get the tail in :(

[sly kestrel]

Hey raf, u still think they are the same size? 😅

[torn silo]

That big thing

[cold steppe]

Perspective is off on the last one

[mellow sable]

oh Jesus

[cold steppe]

they're massive

[mellow sable]

yeah

[spring blaze]

wren that whale pic looks like a sea angel

[mellow sable]

I only saw the whale before the ascend

they're HUUUUUUGE

[sly kestrel]

Damn

[cold steppe]

Krill head

tiny boi

[sly kestrel]

Ginsy woah

[cold steppe]

ooh, you're right ginsy!!

[sly kestrel]

That creature is.....interesting

[hollow dirge]

krill-

[cold steppe]

the one cosmic manta thing looks like a sea slug

[sly kestrel]

Looks like ur about to throw up 😂

[hollow dirge]

xD

krill ish stuck-

[mellow sable]

krill kinda remind me of sea dragons

[spring blaze]

krills are pretty tiny

[sly kestrel]

Oh yea that was a bug a long time ago, still isn’t fixed yet

[mellow sable]

I know they're a krill

but just

sea dragon works too well

[lethal stump]

Krill remind me of.......krill

[sly kestrel]

...

[spring blaze]

because it is.. a krill

[sly kestrel]

R/wooooooosh

[spring blaze]

[sly kestrel]

Y’all ever wonder why mantas look like mantas

[mellow sable]

hm

[lethal stump]

[mellow sable]

why is that

[spring blaze]

crabs look like crabs

[mellow sable]

crabs are decorator crabs!!!!

and I have proof

[lethal stump]

Jellyfish look like jellyfish

[sly kestrel]

Must be something they are hiding

It can’t be...

[cold steppe]

they don't have stingers

or do they

[mellow sable]

wherever you see a crab, it ALWAYS looks like stone that is nearby

the ark has two different kinds of crabs actually

[sly kestrel]

Maybe a camo technique?

[mellow sable]

one that's white and one that's dark blue

[cold steppe]

crabs are wild

[sly kestrel]

Well some depends on lighting but I do believe you on the pale crabs

[mellow sable]

no no, I'm positive they're blue

I'll go get a picture

[cold steppe]

also the crabs kind of look more like the idea of a crab than an actual crab

[sly kestrel]

🦀

[cold steppe]

stubby little legs

[sly kestrel]

I didn’t get the impression of a crab until I saw the quest name

[cold steppe]

I thought they were hissing rocks with legs

[sly kestrel]

When i first saw it, I jus thought of it as a unique creature specifically for sky, and it didn’t resemble anything irl

Plus with the crab hint, we have potential to find out more about the crabs

But thas for later

[cold steppe]

Sky was surprisingly deep compared to when I started

my first thoughts: pretty game, where are the ads
my thoughts now: I know almost nothing about the history of Sky and I must know more

which crab hint? the one about them walking like bats?

or a different one

I know there was a theory?? about crabs being corrupted mantas

[cold steppe]

yeah

they walk like bats

[desert sun]

bats?

[sly kestrel]

She said that a long time ago

[spring blaze]

what makes you think that wren?

[sly kestrel]

I didn’t kno it meant anything until later

[spring blaze]

she did??

wait do you mean the bat part or the crab bit

[sly kestrel]

Here’s a better reference

[cold steppe]

https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/713123900015378473

[sly kestrel]

“A fun crab lore fact: there's a specific reason for the way that Sky's crabs walk the way they do. their walkcycle mimics something... ”-Ash

“Ok are their legs mimicking something, or is it their whole body”-Me

“Its the walk cycle, but what that mimics is also relating to what the crabs are, technically. How crabs are born/made/created/come to be. What are crabs 🦀”- Ash

[cold steppe]

and scroll up

[desert sun]

wait worde???? we got it?????

[sly kestrel]

Holddddd up

[spring blaze]

yeah its bats

[desert sun]

MAN

I WASNT EVEN HERE FOR IT

[cold steppe]

video
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/713123564039045180

[sly kestrel]

STELLIFY CAME HERE BEFORE???

[cold steppe]

yeah

[sly kestrel]

That....is a cursed image

Oh my

[cold steppe]

yeah

I like the bat gif better

[spring blaze]

yeah

[mellow sable]

@sly kestrel

[sly kestrel]

Look at toyata’s box crab thingy

[spring blaze]

the walking cycles based off of bats

but look at the gif, why is it walking like that though?

[cold steppe]

it's on the ground

[mellow sable]

the crab is the same color as the boat!

[desert sun]

how would anyone ever think of that

[cold steppe]

they rarely are on the ground though

[desert sun]

tuesdat is actually galaxy brain

[mellow sable]

which proves my theory that they're carpenter crabs!

or wait

[sly kestrel]

Ohhhh before the lighting from the colored lights, those crabs were actually the same color as the other ones

[mellow sable]

decorator

not carpenter

[sly kestrel]

Oh wow that was random

[mellow sable]

it's still the same color as the boat though

[cold steppe]

it might be a result of lighting though

[mellow sable]

which means the boat has an altered color too

my theory still stands

[cold steppe]

like how some capes look different in different lights

[sly kestrel]

Because.... the lighting

[mellow sable]

yeah exactly

[spring blaze]

let the man have their theory

[mellow sable]

it must have been grey but then with the purple light it made it navy blue

[sly kestrel]

U tellin me.....u guys...saw stellify AND DIDNT EVEN GET EXITED

[mellow sable]

also, ark crabs are HUUUUGE compared to regular crabs

[cold steppe]

we got excited

we didn't leave though

[sly kestrel]

But but

But

But

[spring blaze]

why so excited about stellify

[sly kestrel]

Dev=lore

☹️

[desert sun]

litrally a community dev stopped by in the lore channel

big stuff

[cold steppe]

Stellify was eating popcorn

[spring blaze]

dev=/=lore some devs just wanna watch the chat burn

[sly kestrel]

Well first of all I always get exited for em, cuz devs are awesomeeeee and friendly

[cold steppe]

also the whole crabs walk like bats thing was going on

[sly kestrel]

Well

[desert sun]

wait so

what do we learn from this info

[sly kestrel]

Coincidence that stelly came when u were talking about it

[cold steppe]

that crabs walk like bats

[desert sun]

yes but. like. what do we learn

[cold steppe]

and/or bats were the inspiration for crabs

[mellow sable]

crabs are also decorator crabs

[cold steppe]

that was not confirmed

but I do see a similarity

[mellow sable]

i know

i wonder though

what's under the rock

[desert sun]

learning about the walkcycle helps us learn about what they ""are"" remember? like where they come from??

[mellow sable]

are there organs???

well

crabs come from caves

[sly kestrel]

Haven’t got there yet

But I did get a bit interested

[mellow sable]

we know that from the crab cave murals

[spring blaze]

i think the way the bat is in the gif might help??

like wheres the wings

[cold steppe]

do they?

[sly kestrel]

Uh no
They appear wide open in wasteland

[cold steppe]

the crab cave murals are a little ambiguous

[spring blaze]

why would they walk if bats have wings?? its like crawling on the ground

[mellow sable]

I noticed something

[cold steppe]

Seraph had the theory that crabs are corrupted mantas

based on the murals

[mellow sable]

when a bat walks it looks like it has 6 wings

[cold steppe]

more crabs, less mantas

[mellow sable]

or wait

[sly kestrel]

And the mural doesn’t mean they came from caves
It’s jus a mural....in a cave, and it clearly shows that the murals weren’t dipicting a location in a cave

[mellow sable]

legs

not wings

god it's late

crab cave murals show

water?

[sly kestrel]

Uh huh

[mellow sable]

and mantas fleeing

[sly kestrel]

They show em flying but not confirmed if they are fleeing

[desert sun]

time to do bat research never though itd come to this

[mellow sable]

ark is such a hassle to go to lol

[cold steppe]

my theory was that as Wasteland got more corrupted, the creatures of light left and the creatures of darkness/corruption took over

[sly kestrel]

Yes I looked it up, they actually do look like bats walking

[cold steppe]

but there's nothing really clear about which one is the case

[desert sun]

i think that creatures of darkness naturally manifest in areas that lack light

[sly kestrel]

Also wren remember....krills have the ability to kill mantas and we see about 6 confirmed krills in wasteland
Well in the mural it showed that the environment used to be rich with mantas

[desert sun]

or have an abundance of dark

[mellow sable]

we know darkness is light mold

[sly kestrel]

Jus imagine what happened later

[cold steppe]

oh true Jay

[mellow sable]

when there's a lot of light, there's also a lot of darkness

I also noticed a neat thing that's most likely not intended

[cold steppe]

in the physical world (ours) at least, darkness is the absence of light

[mellow sable]

you know how they say the brightest light leads to the darkest shadows or whatever

[cold steppe]

black is the absence of white, and white is all colors

or something

[mellow sable]

our capes glow the brightest in wasteland due to the lighting

[desert sun]

it is

[cold steppe]

it's been a while since I've been in art

[mellow sable]

just thought that's a neat lil detail that probably wasn't intended

[torn silo]

Uh how if crab mimicking cockroach? Both can’t wake up if they’re upside down

[sly kestrel]

Nu uhhhhh how come when I was a kid and mixed all the paint colors to get a rainbow, I jus got black

[mellow sable]

it's weird like that

digital colors combined make white

[spring blaze]

but cockroaches are gross

[mellow sable]

real colors combined make black

[spring blaze]

[silver forge]

Paint colors mixed together creates blacks. light colors mixed together makes white

[spring blaze]

i mean i always saw crabs as pests

[torn silo]

Something with a upside-down problem is a sky’s crab, cockroach, and turtle

[sly kestrel]

Wow physics is strange

All color is created by light, and when you mix em together with paint or something u get black
But with artificial color like on a digital screen, if u mix all colors u get white

I think my last brain cell died jus reading color physics

Well, goodnight

[desert sun]

night jay

i looked up "how are bats made" expecting to get the animal, instead i got the wooden bats

ironically, wooden bats are made from ash

[tacit spear]

i wanna make a elder theory

I'm nervous

[desert sun]

nothings stopping you ! go ahead

[tacit spear]

Okay!

I think that the different constellations are different tribes that have their own way of life and survival, and all depend on each other and their skills to survive, and each constellation has their own traditional clothing and materials, which is why they're so different.

[desert sun]

thats a nice theory! so something like different states?

[tacit spear]

Heart-ception

Yeah!

Like their own traditions

[desert sun]

i like it

[frosty helm]

Heya guys, so I'm writing a story about the past of Sky. I'm currently writing the part about the Isle of Dawn, and by looking at all the pictures and stuffs I can surmise I few things:

A: The people worshipped the stars because... well, they're stars. What else would you worship?

B: A few stars fell from the sky, and gave the people there the ability to make things fly.

C: They used these stars to make their boats fly and build a castle atop the giant cilff.

Any questions, comments, etc?

[sly kestrel]

The stars that fell

Were the elders

Devs actually confirmed it too

In the intro it said that the 6 stars fell and those 6 stars were the elders

[desert sun]

*valley elders count as one elder

[frosty helm]

Oh

Hm

So what did they make the boats fly with...?

[spring blaze]

possibly power diamonds since theres some embedded on each side of a boat?

like this

but there was also gold inside the boats (?) that mightve done something too

[frosty helm]

Hm

[desert sun]

we have a theory that diamonds are the things that power everything in sky

from boats to doors

[frosty helm]

"The power diamonds/darkstones are related to the downfall of their civilisation" -Game Devs

[desert sun]

rlly???? where was that

[frosty helm]

Somebody posted a doc full of the stuff

Canon Lore confirmed by TGC

This is everything we know for certain about Sky, nearly everything else is conjecture.
If there’s anything I’m missing ping me and I can add it.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE
Credit to @humble barn for help with the Japanese livestreams
This guy

[desert sun]

its been a bit since i read the docs 😭

[cold steppe]

ah yeah, from the pins

as a note, I'm not sure if Hage Jiisama edited the doc since, the very bottom info on the doc is his speculation

[sly kestrel]

Nope

That part was from a Japanese live-stream

Hage was CORRECT

[cold steppe]

oooo

[sly kestrel]

He knows his stuff

He can translate 👍🏼

[cold steppe]

so megabird is canon?

or are you referring to the comment by Ash

[sly kestrel]

I’m referring to the part where it said that the power diamonds were the downfall of the civilization

[cold steppe]

ahhh

I thought that was already established?

[unborn fog]

is this a bad time to ask a question lol

[frosty helm]

No

[unborn fog]

k cool

[desert sun]

(thanks for asking tho)

[frosty helm]

Asking about asking?

Hm

[unborn fog]

i mean it s a nice way to check if a conversation is finished

my question is:

is the theory that the valley races were a way for the elders to pick people worthy for venturing through the wasteland or smth already proven/disproven/proposed

[frosty helm]

Oh...

Uh...

IDK if that's cannon or not, but either way I think that's an epic theory

[unborn fog]

oh rly?

lol ok thx

bottlecaps you ve been typing for a while

u got a theory?

[sly kestrel]

Bottle caps

Oh

Oh there’s a person called bottle caps

I thought that was a nickname for Boop

Well, tbh I never rlly looked into lore for the races
I’m completely clueless around that area and confused, why is it there, why does it look like something jus for us, did the spirits fly like us, was it always built as a race track? If so, why does all the ruin look like it wasn’t always meant to be a racetrack, what was this whole thing for, etc

[unborn fog]

looks like an avalanche or smth swept the buildings and they repurposed it

earthquake?

[frosty helm]

Point 1: You don't have to spoiler tag things

Point 2: It's confirmed that Office takes place in a seperate reality

[tight nexus]

I am fairly sure the blob is just the office building

Because you can see that from space

When I went to space with friends and my friends went back to office, they were shown as in that blurry building when I honked

[sly kestrel]

Yea the office and the content from the secret area isn’t relevant to the sky lore

[tulip crystal]

I can delete it then sorry,,

[sly kestrel]

It’s jus an Easter egg area

And no don’t be sorry

[fickle orchid]

what did she say

[upper condor]

Was a theory about office

[fickle orchid]

oh

[frosty helm]

Here's the first few pages of my Sky backstory narrative: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IR9rE1XFnoWHQNCWUVtOazqgSXx-QJ4p8sH1ckerDeI/edit?usp=sharing

Feel free to comment and correct on anything out-of-canon, but let it be known that I am making up a lot of stuff.

[acoustic inlet]

Well, tbh I never rlly looked into lore for the races
I’m completely clueless around that area and confused, why is it there, why does it look like something jus for us, did the spirits fly like us, was it always built as a race track? If so, why does all the ruin look like it wasn’t always meant to be a racetrack, what was this whole thing for, etc
@sly kestrel I wonder why the racing spirit is fragmented ... this is a terrible thing... what happened to him?

[spring blaze]

someone back then mentioned the flag colours in valley races but thats more the rivalry part of it than anything imo since its competitive

[royal kiln]

@frosty helm I like this a lot! I only read the prologue but I have 2 main questions/comments...
-who exactly is haratus (maybe I didn’t read right )
Also I think you should replace the children by whoever the spirits were

The children were sent by the light/megabird to restore light once the cloud world fell

[acoustic inlet]

someone back then mentioned the flag colours in valley races but thats more the rivalry part of it than anything imo since its competitive
@spring blaze I saw a video on youtube from the racing in a previous version to the official launch of the game, or something like that, and there were two separate quests, blue and red.

No. I'm sorry, i was reading and the keyboard was on

[spring blaze]

ahh good to know lemon!

[torn silo]

Bcs we need to warm up our body. We need a lot of something flaming to charge in that rainy forest

Orb is something that we need right?

[spring blaze]

[nimble siren]

wait is that not allowed for posting?

ill remove it

[spring blaze]

yeah orange hasnt been released yet

thanks!

[unborn fog]

i think they took the clue from the promo art, but yeah beta content is in beta channels

[spring blaze]

[nimble siren]

would it make sense for the fire orb to be a source of fire? like to help people survive in the rain

or did the orbs just fall places randomly???

idk this is my first time on the lore channel

[spring blaze]

maybe they did fall randomly but i doubt the devs would make it random haha

[torn silo]

It is not randomly. Quest giver give us riddles to spot the place of each orb

[nimble siren]

so the fire could be involved in power diamond making?

[spring blaze]

if the orbs are where they are theres a reason why theyre there

[nimble siren]

probably

[torn silo]

Like the green were gifted by sky to earth

[nimble siren]

and the green gift is fertility right?

okay phew

[spring blaze]

or from the sky to the earth??

since it fell from to the ground

[torn silo]

Yeah something like that. I dont really remember

[nimble siren]

could that be interpreted as the first life in sky came from the sky?

[torn silo]

The point is quest giver give us clue

[spring blaze]

me too LOL

i recorded all of the spirit cutscenes and the light cutscenes but not the clues???

[nimble siren]

wait but what is the purple light's purpose exactly? i know it turns ark to night but what are the implications of that? purple light =timetravell?

[torn silo]

Artificial thing i guess

[silver forge]

Maybe purple light is cleaning the air

[torn silo]

Red for storyline murals and purple for artificial

[nimble siren]

so then purple light is projection?

makes sense when you consider the vault projections

yeah probably

[torn silo]

Memory of sleepy spirit

[nimble siren]

actually probably recreation of memory because the|| tents(?) get partially restored||

at least thats what i assume they are

wait purple light is considered spoliers?

[spring blaze]

if the lights already released no

[silver forge]

Purple light isn’t the fact that they are ||shops || is

[nimble siren]

oh okay lol

i was assuming because they look like ||stalls||

[silver forge]

As far as we have gotten it just looks like there’s fancy tents

[nimble siren]

alright sorry

lol im gonna leave before i dig myself a deeper hole

[silver forge]

It’s ok! You didn’t mean it and were friendly about admitting a mistake

[torn silo]

Its not just a tent i guess. Its look like a small market or a festival. Tents, flags, light color (its becomen night time) and sound.

[silver forge]

Unobservant me didn’t notice that it looked like a market or festival

I was more focused on TENTS and being able to stand on them

[torn silo]

I just reliaze its similar to night market here/ or a festival or bazaar. Lot of tents standing bcs they’re not permanently here as a market

Besides that purple has the best backsound for me

In my opinion

[spring blaze]

it does give me market vibes

like when i relieved sleepy’s cutscene with all the stall setup my mind immediately went to “market”

[exotic shuttle]

i wonder if the spirits were expecting to have customers

maybe the lightseekers came to visit occasionally

[unborn fog]

maybe this reinforces the merchant theory?

(ik im like 20 minutes late but like still)

[spring blaze]

maybe

[rugged ermine]

Umm, excuses me ;-; may i ask when will the next travelling spirit arrive? 🥺

[silver forge]

June 11th! Questions are best suited for #questions-and-help

[drowsy spoke]

Ookay what be going on here

I saw something about a clothes hanging spirit

[worthy mist]

Spirits need to do their laundry too 🥺

[noble heron]

What happened to them????

why what when..?

[worldly edge]

probley lose his arms

[hushed steeple]

@noble heron who is the artist?

[bronze lion]

They probably found this on Pinterest

[nova tiger]

This ain't even lore tho

[bronze lion]

But again you should credit the artist

[nova tiger]

lmao

[worldly edge]

still dont know what this comic is about

[nova tiger]

It's just a comic

[bronze lion]

It just a funny comic haha

[worldly edge]

uh

[bronze lion]

And the bottom is just a sad story made by the artist

It's not canon

[drifting copper]

@noble heron could you please delete the images? not only did you post it here, the lore channel but you didn’t credit the artist as well so it’s best to delete that.

not related to lore at all, most likely a reference to an existing comic though.

[worldly edge]

are sky kids made to bring light to ppl

[nova tiger]

are pins readable?

[drifting copper]

no, they were made to save and bring back the lost stars. (elders and most likely the dead ancestors)

the light creatures are the only things to lend their light to people

[noble heron]

sorry, I did my best to find the artist before posting it here but I wasn't able to ( you guys were right, I did find it on Pinterest). I was just wondering if it is part of the lore or not so thanks for answering that

[zealous sedge]

@hushed steeple please don’t post other people’s art work here. All artwork is supposed to be your own. Also, this is the lore discussion channel, to discuss the lore of the game.

[hushed steeple]

Sorry

[crystal shadow]

do the elder spirits have official/fan names?

or any backstory too?

[noble heron]

I only heard people refer to them as forest elder, vault elder etc @crystal shadow

[dire kindle]

they do have fan names!

granted, they're not as commonly used as (realm) elder

and as for their backstory, that has not yet been entirely clarified, but we can speculate!

[crystal shadow]

@dire kindle what are their fan names?

[rotund coral]

Isle- Tandi/Tsadi
Prarie- Aplin/Aylin
Forest- Teth/Tet
Valley spiky dude- Alef/Alet
Valley the other one- Daleth/ Dalet
Wasteland- Lamed (or Caleb as some people translated)
Vault- Samekh

From joshur

I think they means this...?

I'm not entirely sure

[eternal totem]

those are old concept names

fan-names vary from fan to fan

[cloud orchid]

What does it mean?

[hushed steeple]

Supposed to represent the intro cut scene

[torn silo]

Isle- Tandi/Tsadi
Prarie- Aplin/Aylin
Forest- Teth/Tet
Valley spiky dude- Alef/Alet
Valley the other one- Daleth/ Dalet
Wasteland- Lamed (or Caleb as some people translated)
Vault- Samekh

From joshur
@rotund coral ibranian alphabet?

[uncut bone]

No, that sounds a lot like Hebrew.

Ayin: ע

Tzadee: צ

Tet: ת

Aleph: א

Dalet: ד

Lamed: ל

Sameh: ט

Ah cool.

[steep coyote]

Yes

[hushed steeple]

@hushed steeple it has been there since the ancient times,my child

[ember zodiac]

Did u notice the post Eden Jellyfish have crowns?!!!

[hushed steeple]

Yea

[ember zodiac]

King Jellyfish

[hushed steeple]

U

Are the legendary witch hunter ?Impossible?

[ember zodiac]

[hushed steeple]

Toss a coin to your witcher

[ember zodiac]

Toss an office cape to your witcher

[frosty helm]

@frosty helm I like this a lot! I only read the prologue but I have 2 main questions/comments...
-who exactly is haratus (maybe I didn’t read right )
Also I think you should replace the children by whoever the spirits were
@royal kiln Haratus's identity is yet to be revealed and the stars/elders call everyone children because that's how they view mortals

[royal kiln]

Oh ok interesting

[ember zodiac]

Haratus... Where is it?

[sly ruin]

Stars had fallen & the ancestors had picked up 4. I did some exploring & found 3

So why are they underground? Where is the fourth?
I’ve tried chirping & they don’t react.
I purposefully ran out of wl and they don’t replenish my energy.
They float & move, but they don’t respond to prayer or magic.

[cold steppe]

they and the cave they are in were added during the Season of Lightseekers for the piggyback spirit, but no one really know what they're for

or do we

[sly kestrel]

We found some connections between lightseekers and enchantment, a lot of connections actually, and bc of that some of us thought that boat seemed a bit important too

But

I can’t theorize about it, it’s too random

A boat with 3 lights

[cold steppe]

oh, the theory about lightseekers finding the light(s) and giving them to the enchantment spirits to bring somewhere else?

[sly kestrel]

Yes that theory

[cold steppe]

I tend to pop in and out of the channel randomly, so I'm never sure if there's been newer theories proposed

[sly ruin]

Same

[sly kestrel]

Well there has but

The lightseeker one seemed to stick around longer

[sly kestrel]

Yupp

Twinsssss

What are u talking about

Those masks aren’t meant to be combined into one

It jus symbolizes that they are 2 halves and....ok it’s hard to explain but

They aren’t meant to combine into one mask

Cuz that’s jus weird

No...

The location isn’t relevant as to why they are twins

[vague plover]

Doesn't the valley present youth and such?

[sly kestrel]

They were always twins from the beginning, way before they fell

And it was even explained by devs that their concept was to always have twins, and no matter how much the concepts changed, twins stayed twins from the beginning

No

The concept of twins started long before they even thought about the valley of triumph

Youth is more like praire

[steady pollen]

Prairie is what represents youth/childhood
I think valley represents adulthood-

[sly kestrel]

It is adulthood

[desert sun]

you think the twins thing is inspired from the gemini constellation?

[sly kestrel]

Maybe

[summer patrol]

thonkin.. what if krill r these

[zinc arrow]

i read that krills are corrupted from something (idk what) but that was only from the concept notes.. so possibly

[sly kestrel]

I mean I don’t think so but u can theorize those being krills

I jus don’t see a connection

[royal kiln]

What if the bones in wasteland are the early concept krills 😳

I mean that’s the only thing that matches the size lol

[zinc arrow]

😳
people say theyre whales tho

[sly kestrel]

They weren’t concept krills

They were simply old concept dark creatures

The idea of krill being a dark creature was later later

But man i wish those creatures stayed in game 😔

[zinc arrow]

they ugly funny

[summer patrol]

I mean there’s a correlation in krill and those creatures having one eyes and multiple legs, and that these creatures appear in the wasteland area of the vault

[sly kestrel]

They have multiple legs yes

But

That doesn’t rlly mean it’s a krill

[summer patrol]

it doesn’t but im just saying it could b

[sly kestrel]

Well, it’s called cosmic whale...

[desert sun]

isnt that a fanon name?

[zinc arrow]

krill or whale?

bc krill is, idk about whale though

[frail anchor]

isn’t there a whale in hidden forest?

it looks like one anyway

[zinc arrow]

u mean the bones?

theyre said to be fish bones but sometimes i do wonder if theyre actually from a whale

[frail anchor]

no, in the green place? where you have to stomp and then fall down a long hole

[zinc arrow]

OHH

then yeah thats a whale

[frail anchor]

ooooh nice

[zinc arrow]

idk what happens if u trigger the cutscene and someone is by it but im gonna assume (just like in golden wasteland) you get hit and lose light

[frail anchor]

oooh okay, thanks!

[sly kestrel]

Uh no it’s not fish bones

It’s a whale

The one at the forest

It’s even canonically called a whale

Since it was smaller than the one we see, I can only assume it was a younger whale

[zinc arrow]

ive only seen it be referred to as fish bones so i didnt know. thts cool tho

[sly kestrel]

Where’d u get the idea that they were fish bones

Did someone tell you or...

[zinc arrow]

someone told me

and i never bothered to actually check until now

[steep coyote]

I've just noticed ... There are graves here...

[zinc arrow]

whoops thought that was crab shrine
but yeah there are graves in the graveyard n alot of the wl spirits stories r quite sad

[steep coyote]

Yeah... But now I was wondering

We see in that spirit memories 2 spirits managed to escape

But then the others...? Is this a some kind of Titanic reference?

Idk just wondering

[sly kestrel]

Hmm

I didn’t see any graves in the graveyard

And in titanic....one person escaped

[zinc arrow]

if there were no graves in the graveyard id be a bit disappointed /joke

[frozen pivot]

Are spirits related to sky kids? Like biologically

[cold steppe]

no

skykids are a different species than spirits, and spirits are a different species than elders

[frozen pivot]

U say species

My idea was theyre not a species but an artificial life created by the spirits

[cold steppe]

ahhh

from the chronology though, it's somewhat unlikely that the spirits created the skykids, as the spirits are dead by the time skykids appeared

though nothing has been confirmed about the origins of skykids

[frozen pivot]

The glowing parts on the sky kids intrigued me so i looked on the design of the spirits and didnt find the same parts

[cold steppe]

there's a lot of debate about who the speaker in the very beginning of the game is

[frozen pivot]

And these glowing things in the sky kids are diamond in shape so it gave me the idea that these are the diamond thingies that the spirits used as power

[cold steppe]

some say it's an elder, some say it's the Eden elder (who has not been confirmed in-game), some say it's the megabird (also not confirmed), and some say it's something else

[frozen pivot]

Im kinda new to the lore so im not familiar with some of the theories yet, i am curious enough to be brought in so i try and theorize with my own knowledge

[cold steppe]

That's awesome! Do you want me to give you some links to some of the more popular theories?

[frozen pivot]

Anyway, arent the glowing diamonds like battey cells?

[cold steppe]

yes! They're thought to be power diamonds

[frozen pivot]

I see

[cold steppe]

there's a google doc of confirmed lore in the pins of this channel

[frozen pivot]

That just makes my theory seem more clear to me

Oh

[cold steppe]

it's been confirmed that power diamonds caused the downfall of the civilization

Some power diamond theorizing
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/675949293244383252

[frozen pivot]

Actually the capsule-like objects in vault with the glowing diamonds looks like hardrives to me

Theyre arranged in a way aswell

[cold steppe]

I believe Vault was supposed to store memories

though Vault is also supposed to be a dream-like journey

so you're not ever sure if what you're seeing is real or not

or if it's a dream or memory or somthing

[frozen pivot]

When u said species earlier, it confused me

Did u intentionally used that word to describe them?

[cold steppe]

I meant species loosely

[frozen pivot]

Oh i see

[cold steppe]

they're not the same, however you want to express that

[frozen pivot]

Wouldnt it make more sense to describe them as higher beings than spirits tho

[cold steppe]

it's unclear

size-wise, elders appear to be much bigger than spirits

[unborn fog]

i always thought of the vault as an ascension into the spirit/elder world, since it is more grounded on the bottom floors and more open in the top floors

[cold steppe]

part of the issue of defining "higher beings" or "different species" is that there's not enough canon lore to prove or disprove theories

[frozen pivot]

So in a way, theyre basically thanoses

[cold steppe]

for example, there's a theory that the megabird created the elders and then the spirits, and then the skykids as separate beings

it's confirmed that the stars that fell were the elders

[frozen pivot]

Fell

[cold steppe]

from the opening sequence

"But darkness came, and the stars fell..."

[frozen pivot]

Did spirits 'fell' too?

[unborn fog]

i remember hearing from somewhere that the spirits are dead inhabitants of the kingdom

[frozen pivot]

So they arent meant to fall but die

[cold steppe]

well, it's somewhat implied that the spirits died

[frozen pivot]

Now are the elders dead

[cold steppe]

you can see their gravestones

I think the elders are dead and are buried at the summit of Vault

let me check

[frozen pivot]

Theres 6 elders right?

[cold steppe]

yes

6 confirmed at least

in concepts, there was a 7th (the Eden elder)

what would have been the Eden constellation was repurposed into the favorite friends constellation (the crown)

[frozen pivot]

It changed to an anchor like pattern right

[cold steppe]

what do you mean?

[frozen pivot]

Wait lemme check

[unborn fog]

that s the seasonal constellation i think

like the curvy horn thing?

[frozen pivot]

Oh wait im dum

[cold steppe]

so I'm not sure if it's canon or not, but there's a theory that the spirits were "human" inhabitants of the world of Sky before the elders fell. I think that's the one that you were talking about earlier

[frozen pivot]

That was my idea atleast

[cold steppe]

it was confirmed that the elders knew each other before they fell

so in that respect, you could probably call the elders higher beings than the spirits

[frozen pivot]

Now this confused me more

Cus i thought stars in orbit were winged lighta

Or cotls

Or are they?

[unborn fog]

well they have capes

so probably children of the light?

i feel like the light that they are children of is supposed to be referring to the megabird?

so probably cotl

[cold steppe]

yeah, the light that's being referred to is unclear

I personally do think it's the megabird

[frozen pivot]

I got confused because of the narrative of stars fell being elders

[cold steppe]

if it helps, winged light were never referred to as stars in game

[unborn fog]

yeah, it s just a quicker way for players to say it

[cold steppe]

wl is much faster

[unborn fog]

but autocorrect and such

[cold steppe]

but that's one of the issues of a non-standardized vocabulary in this game

in this community at least, the only terms that have been widely adopted are moth and krill

if you said that to a person in-game, they might not know what you mean

[frozen pivot]

I tend to explain it to them when i do say it tho

Anyway, so then wat are cotl really

My idea is that theyre similar to sky kids but with a different purpose

[cold steppe]

it's implied that we are the Children of the Light

hence the nickname "skykids"

[frozen pivot]

Then so wats happening is that there are alot of cotl but some falls as sky kids to do wat we do ingame

[sly kestrel]

I have a better explaination of the power diamonds

Wren that theory u sent of mine was like months old

And no the elders were never dead

Why....would we need to save them if they were dead

[frozen pivot]

Oh yeah

[cold steppe]

I didn't think we were "saving" the elders

[frozen pivot]

The fire we give em

[sly kestrel]

I believe Vault was supposed to store memories
@cold steppe not jus memories, it’s a vault containing knowledge, it’s like a library. Some knowledge it holds is also forbidden and sacred, this type of knowledge is located in the archives

Wdym

Our main mission was to save the elders

Our way of saving them in reconnecting them with the light and we do this by using our flame

[cold steppe]

yeah, the projection lanterns

by "saving" I thought it was more of "return them to the stars"

not like, saving them from death

[sly kestrel]

If u find someone in stuck in an abandoned building and get them out that’s considered saving right?

[cold steppe]

that's fair

am tired

[frozen pivot]

Are realms separate kingdoms of sorts or are they whole

[sly kestrel]

Hmmm it’s sort of like
Separate parts of one kingdom

Hard to explain tbh

[cold steppe]

kind of like the US?

[sly kestrel]

But it’s arguable to be ONE single civilization

[cold steppe]

I guess similar to say, Japan and its prefectures?

or whatever they're called

[sly kestrel]

Also they weren’t all built at once
Isle and praire was the start of the civilization which is why they are using more primitive tech

[frozen pivot]

Then does the elders acts as, lets say chief of the realm or smth

[sly kestrel]

Like rock temples

Well....not rlly Cheif

I think they were jus put in a high position bc the spirits respected them and prolly saw them as “god” or assumed them to be leaders

After all.....they are way bigger then the spirits

And I keep saying spirits bc idk their race
But I do kno that they weren’t always spirits, they were alive once, and it doesn’t rlly seem fitting to call em humans either

[cold steppe]

in that respect, I always kind of thought the word spirit was used in more of the way to describe ghosts

[frozen pivot]

Then does the reliving the memories of spirits the work of the knowledge in vault aswell

I mean the concept of spirit seems far off when theres a place somewhere that can hold knowledge of dreams and anything alike

[sly kestrel]

Well the ascent of vault

I think that was jus for us skykids

[frozen pivot]

Ye

[sly kestrel]

I don’t think it was made for the spirits purpose, it jus seems like something meant for us, a simulation for us

[frozen pivot]

Wren said that sky kids are cotl so it wont make sense for spirits to ascent cus they doesnt have a place where cotls resides

[sly kestrel]

After all, atlas did say that vault was supposed to prepare us and let us kno about the spirits past before we face the “brutality” of eden

But I have to say

Vault didn’t rlly teach us anything 😐