lore-discussion-spoilers

[inland narwhal]

That’s a picture of sounds. Where are those sounds?

[ember zodiac]

In game sounds

Look at the highlighted ones names

DID U JUS LOOK AT IT OR DID U CLICK IT
@sly kestrel Wanted to find to the orbit music.. And found these

[desert sun]

honestly... id want to do the same

orbit music >>

[ember zodiac]

Found them but they were in parts and not serially

Tho I was able to join them correctly

Very high quality sound...

[sly kestrel]

Wait what did u hear for the megabird cinematic

[ember zodiac]

Forgot🤣

PC is off now

I'll look into it tomorrow morning🤖

Maybe we are all part of the King?!

Have u seen the movie The Forbidden Kingdom?

Have u seen the movie The Forbidden Kingdom?
@ember zodiac That sorta concept maybe..

[desert sun]

basically, if the child of light is the king.. then we can apply all that we know about the shiny boys to the king

[ember zodiac]

Maybe

I think.. we free the king and the king merges with us so that we can take him to the orbit.. Do u notice that in rhe poat eden sequence we glow amd we have a cape to fly but as soon as we reach the inner orbit where we get the candles, our cape disappears?

And do u notice, we always have seven wedges in post eden sequence no matter how much wedges we had before?

7.. the 7th elder... 7th realm.....

[desert sun]

very interesting indeed, i always just assumed that it was 7 wedges because thats the default amount of wedges you get without any wing buffa

buffs*

[ember zodiac]

7 is an important number in the game.. 7 realms, 7 elders, 7th elder is the King, wedges without wing buffs is 7, after getting 7 wings flying anywhere becomes a lot easier..
And lastly... The number of statues in eden is a multiple of 7..

[exotic shuttle]

there are 8 elders, if you count the valley twins as 2 people

[desert sun]

i like to see them both as half an elder, evidenced by their tombstone

[unreal wind]

True

[cedar heron]

there are 8 elders, if you count the valley twins as 2 people
@exotic shuttle aren't there only 7 even counting the twins?

[sly kestrel]

They are talking about the king which is theoretically the 7th elder

But, we still gotta prove his existence first

[balmy totem]

does anyone actually know why the castle above ||eden|| is destroyed is it cause of the ||eden|| crystal?

Something my friend asked but also dont know enough of the lore to understand fjdnf

[sly kestrel]

It’s one of our theories

But no one knows for sure

Also u don’t have to spoiler tag anything in this channel

[plush moon]

uh

[wide root]

Why calling megabirb megabirb if it looks like an akward giant cape? Why don’t we call it megacape instead???

[plush moon]

basically, if the child of light is the king.. then we can apply all that we know about the shiny boys to the king
@desert sun in home, the place we are spawned in has the constellation of a cape (directly above the constellation is the crown constellation), the same constellation is on the barrier to the eden door. so maybe there are two constellations (representing different statuses) of the king (cape = prince, crown = king). hence, the old concepts of the prince seem likely to be sort of relevant.

[desert sun]

constellation of a cape?

[plush moon]

interestingly, the shiny bois don't have capes, but when they are with the eden statues (also capeless) they have capes. this is a similarity with us and the star bois when we "take" it we grow capes. i think this implies like the capes are some sort of non-physical object (our shadows don't have capes) as the result of two conditions a star (see symbol of winged light - hand holding a star) and a vessel (stone body). this goes for both us and the eden statues (i think the eden children meant as a collection - child of light, while we are children of light)

u can sort of see it here - on the stone disk

@desert sun

[desert sun]

ahhh that i see i see

[plush moon]

maybe the prince is the control z version of the king - and that' s the file megabirb is using

[desert sun]

btw, devs have confirmed the reason that capes dont have shadows is because of graphics limits

[plush moon]

ah so it's like the hair clipping issues

[desert sun]

basically

[plush moon]

where do u think the place we hug the child of light is? it seems to be in eden

maybe it's kinda like the elder cutscene maybe divorced from time

[desert sun]

^^ thats what i thought

[lethal stump]

Maybe it’s inside the diamond

[wide root]

I don’t think it’s a cutscene bc for the other elders we need to meditate

[plush moon]

what if the king sacrificed his prince self to use for the power diamond?

[wide root]

What if the prince and the king were 1 person

[plush moon]

and the power diamond wasn't a recent advancement but rather the most recent stage to "harnessing of light"

[wide root]

I think the 7th elder is dead

When we die, we see him

At his resting place

[plush moon]

like some sort of project, and we can see the light beaming down from orbit, maybe the prince acted like a "filter" or a "link" so the king had to abandon this part of himself so that he could harness the light for the civilization and disrupt the natural order of light creatures?

so technically the ruler has two personas and the king persona eventually won - maybe this reflects the light/dark thing?

[wide root]

Maybe it’s just that all wants to go towards the biggest light source

Just like a moth

[plush moon]

so he tried to replace megabird as the most powerful being by controlling the light and depriving megabird of it?

[wide root]

I didn’t said that

Or written it

[plush moon]

maybe after the civil war, the eden elder became disillusioned in megabird and realized his own morality (cracked wasteland monument)

I didn’t said that
@wide root i'm expanding on ur idea - basically all are drawn to the most powerful light right, so what if the king made the diamond to be that?

[wide root]

There’s a major distance beetwen the eye of eden and the orbit

[plush moon]

There’s a major distance beetwen the eye of eden and the orbit
@wide root but we've saw that the storm is around the beam of light

[wide root]

If the eye would have served such purpose, supposedly the animals would have followed

What is the beam of light made of?

Animals?

[plush moon]

it's just light? i don't remember when we flown to orbit

[wide root]

What are you talking of?

Game textures?

[plush moon]

.....that beam of light in eden

[wide root]

It’s too far to reach it!

It’s so far that we can’t clearly see thy animals in it!

[plush moon]

idk i'll look out for it next time i go to eden

eden was quite industrial right? and we see the creatures passing thru eden to get to orbit, which might explain some of the architecture (huge corridors) what if they blocked the creatures off from reaching the light and hunted and trapped them?

[wide root]

Flapping birbs going in thy pipelines

Who controls the birbs?

[plush moon]

what if that's only a recent adaptation presumably the pipes are that size for a reason? and it would have been used so it's unlikely that a bird can fly in there

it's only bc eden's dead (not operational) that they can use the pipes

[wide root]

Thy old men controls thy birbs!

[plush moon]

......

why are there pipes?

why is it that size?

[wide root]

To add decoration in eden

[plush moon]

other than that

[wide root]

why is it that size?
@plush moon krills highways

[plush moon]

.......

why would krills need that when they can fly?

[wide root]

Because people can better control them

[plush moon]

why are there krills in eden? why is there lightning in eden?

[wide root]

What if they were some sort of defense system for thy old town?

[plush moon]

defense system from what .-.

[wide root]

The war

it’s logical!!!

[plush moon]

....the only allusion of war there as i can remember is the light shields

[wide root]

Where were they?

[plush moon]

end of first part

[wide root]

....the only allusion of war there as i can remember is the light shields
@plush moon a castle can have many defense systems rather than just one

[plush moon]

there needs to a demand tho to go that extreme tho

[wide root]

The eden diamond

[plush moon]

we haven't seen eden under siege - it makes more sense to release krill onto their enemies rather than keeping it all there!

[wide root]

Didn’t you realized that the pipelines are going from eden to the wastelands?

Highway

[plush moon]

so u r saying that eden vs. wasteland?

[wide root]

-_-

[plush moon]

when wasteland makes power diamonds, which is something that eden makes!!

[wide root]

THEY ALLOW KRILLS TO GO IN EDEN AND IN THY WASTELANDS

[plush moon]

whyyyy

why not just throw a bunch of krills to forest or something

[wide root]

U really... defense system + offensive weapon

[plush moon]

but why wasteland?

[wide root]

Maybe because the forest is of lesser interest

Wastelands is closer to eden

[plush moon]

but why would eden fight against wasteland in the first place?

[wide root]

ARRGH

Maybe the wasteland was part of eden?

[plush moon]

.....

wasteland has an elder

[wide root]

I DON’T THINK THE WASTELAND WAS AGAINST EDEN

wasteland has an elder
@plush moon a solider

[plush moon]

:I a soldier that has a monument and is in the elder cutscene

[wide root]

What are you trying to say?

[plush moon]

I DON’T THINK THE WASTELAND WAS AGAINST EDEN
@wide root oki so why are there krills going to/from there according to ur highway?

[wide root]

...

[plush moon]

i'm basically testing ur theory rn

[wide root]

You really don’t read what i wrote.,.

[plush moon]

?????

[wide root]

READ

Try to do the dam easy puzzle instead of using a blindfold!

[plush moon]

....brb

[wide root]

The wasteland elder was maybe some sort of general

That died in-beetwen the beginning and the end of the war

Or else how they do a memorial?

[plush moon]

U really... defense system + offensive weapon
@wide root then it's just defensive

[wide root]

@wide root oki so why are there krills going to/from there according to ur highway?
@plush moon i will ONCE AGAIN resume it for ya: because krills ARE IN SERVICE OF EDEN

[plush moon]

and apparently wasteland?

[wide root]

Let’s say EDEN IS A COUNTRY

[plush moon]

we haven't seen eden under siege - it makes more sense to release krill onto their enemies rather than keeping it all there!
@plush moon then it still asks this question

[wide root]

WASTELAND is in the COUNTRY CALLED EDEN

[plush moon]

....i think it's more an allegiance than a state - then the wasteland elder won't exist - i think it's independent but alligned with eden

[sly kestrel]

Why calling megabirb megabirb if it looks like an akward giant cape? Why don’t we call it megacape instead???
@wide root bc that’s what the concepts called it, it’s not supposed to actually be a physical giant bird, but a giant entity of life and light

[wide root]

@plush moon then it still asks this question
@plush moon who is dumb enough to let a man-killing animal out in thy wilds if it can easily kill civilians

[plush moon]

u are contradicting urself????\

[wide root]

Not really

[plush moon]

ur said krill can be used as an offensive weapon

i'm implying why don't they do that? why do we only see krill in wasteland + eden?

[wide root]

Just for trying to make you understand why it’s in the wasteland

i'm implying why don't they do that? why do we only see krill in wasteland + eden?
@plush moon JUST [] READ

[sly kestrel]

When theorizing turns into arguing

[plush moon]

i feel bad rn

[wide root]

When theorizing turns into arguing
@sly kestrel you’re not better criticizing at people

[plush moon]

can u read my question differently? u explained why there was only krill in wasteland + eden? then why aren't they used as offensive weapons?

[wide root]

-_-

[plush moon]

@sly kestrel you’re not better criticizing at people
@wide root he's pointing out a valid point. i feel aggravated rn

[wide root]

YES IM CONTRADICTING MYSELF BECAUSE I’M TRYING TO USE THE MOST WORDS POSSIBLE IN ORDER TO MAKE YOU UBDERSTAND

[plush moon]

ye...and there's the caps lock

[wide root]

Happy now?

[plush moon]

no

[wide root]

Is that really just for making trouble?

[plush moon]

i just wanna eat chocolate

[wide root]

U troublemaker

[plush moon]

...

[lethal stump]

Deasktop i suggest you stop using caps lock and try and be a bit calmer about this. This is a lore discussion channel. Not ‘yell my opinion louder’ channel
(Note I’m not a mod or anything, I’m just pointing out immaturity)

[wide root]

Immaturity... what a beautiful word

How would’ve you react when someone makes you reapeat yourself over and over ‘till he can finally make you angry by saying that youcontradicted yourself?

[lethal stump]

I’d say ‘this conversation is going nowhere’ and leave

Not use caps lock to yell at my opponent

[wide root]

Then that’s how you react

[lethal stump]

It’s a much better way to react than yelling at someone

[plush moon]

it's a misunderstanding dude (i assumed that since u set the premise of wasteland vs. eden bc u responded to my question of krills as defensive rather than offensive - in the end it was just the conclusion of krills as more defensive?)

we haven't seen eden under siege - it makes more sense to release krill onto their enemies rather than keeping it all there!
@plush moon

Didn’t you realized that the pipelines are going from eden to the wastelands?
@wide root

i would advise to maybe summarize what u think at once? so there's no room for repetition if all of the ideas are there in easy agreement and flow?

[wide root]

This conversation is going nowhere

[plush moon]

i had to guess what u said so i asked questions. i was confused, i'm sorry if i was too closeminded to understand

yeeet. we need a safety and terms of service - needs to be 90+ pages long tho :I

Anywaysss...so there's a cape constellation (on the home stone disk we spawn on and on the eden door and a crown constellation (friend's list)

Winged lights and the child of light are capeless yet when u bestow winged lights upon the Eden statues they get capes

Has anyone compared the height of the Eden statues, winged lights, and the child of light to see they are the same size?

Now I think about it the Eden children can fly....like us? So I guess that further supports the case that maybe the prince is like the prophet of megabird

So it really shows how much the old timeline can still be sort of relevant

Does the isle vision show the winged lights falling from the sky and that's why they look up all the time?

[desert sun]

Does the isle vision show the winged lights falling from the sky and that's why they look up all the time?
@plush moon the intro cutscene?

[plush moon]

@plush moon the intro cutscene?
@desert sun ye if I recall that's what happened. Basically something falls from above (yellow trail) we then see a sky kid with yellow wings

[cedar heron]

Also u don’t have to spoiler tag anything in this channel
@sly kestrel ooh, I was only forwarding a picture that already has a spoiler tag on its name

[plush moon]

That makes me wonder literally about winged lights. Why do these lights give wings? If I recall they have a bluish glow (like our spirits) and the Eden children will have blue fire on their backs. When we use a wing wedge the cape glows blue

[desert sun]

@desert sun ye if I recall that's what happened. Basically something falls from above (yellow trail) we then see a sky kid with yellow wings
@plush moon that signifies us iirc

[plush moon]

So..they are stars then? I had a theory about the child of light being a constellation and its imprints are from it's fallen stars so it's like a trail of stardust - maybe the child of light does this on purpose and it's their version of death and rebirth? Then it's like a cycle?

[hushed steeple]

That makes me wonder literally about winged lights. Why do these lights give wings? If I recall they have a bluish glow (like our spirits) and the Eden children will have blue fire on their backs. When we use a wing wedge the cape glows blue
Blue signifies darkness

(the cyanish blue)

My logic is that when you fly you lose light

[plush moon]

But what about us giving wings to the statues and they have the blue fire?

[hushed steeple]

That blue is different from the darkness blue

[desert sun]

they turn gold once you give them light

they are blue before

[plush moon]

I don't have a pic..

[hushed steeple]

The blue flame... more like a flame than darkness

Blue flames are the most intense so

[desert sun]

next time you go to eden, take a closer look at the colors of the statues 👌

i like that connection, that blue = darkness

[hushed steeple]

Blue flames are not darkness tho

They belong in the flame category

Whenever you receive winged lights the thing is a blue flame with a wing flying to you

[desert sun]

there are no blue flames? are there?

[hushed steeple]

Whenever you receive winged lights the thing is a blue flame with a wing flying to you
This happens

[plush moon]

next time you go to eden, take a closer look at the colors of the statues 👌
@desert sun I know but that's from far away up close they just have the blue flame I think

[hushed steeple]

I think that blue flame is only applicable for winged lights tho

It's a type of flame

[desert sun]

i swore it winged light was yellow

also no, up close it is still golden lofty

[plush moon]

...I need a pic could've sworn it was like that

[desert sun]

.....im not willing to lose all my WL again just yet

[plush moon]

@desert sun

Taken from Eden spoiler chat

[hushed steeple]

Who would look at the statues up close when you go to eden

[desert sun]

ohhh i completely forgot about that bright blue light

i still swore there was a hint of gold somewhere on them up close...

[hushed steeple]

They turn gold in orbit tho

[plush moon]

Ye...and we do too

I remember the Eden description having "ascending winged light"

[vague plover]

I dont have any pictures but if you look closely on the cracks In it's back you can see a little bit of yellow light I believe.

[desert sun]

OH YEa

^^^

i was thinking about the cracks in the statues

[hushed steeple]

They turn a bit more warm in the colour spectrum I think

[vague plover]

Wait what are we talking about I'm confused😭

Are we talking about the trapped dudes we gives our stars to?

[desert sun]

yes we were haha

[vague plover]

Okay just wanted fo make sure lol!

Also I see in one of the pictures shared there is a purple Aurora around the child of lights head, does anyone know why?

[desert sun]

i just assumed it was a bug? its never happened to me as far as i know

[livid valley]

Eden elder

[mild parrot]

Omai god

[hushed steeple]

Eden elder

[mild parrot]

What if Eden elder was you...

[livid valley]

I can find the old concept of the other elders give me time

[hushed steeple]

What if the kid was you

[mild parrot]

That's already how it is

[hushed steeple]

Well if A=B then B=A

We're all elders now

[mild parrot]

But if you were Eden elder, you could go to all the realms to regain your power.

[noble mango]

Noo it's too early for me to feel old

[hushed steeple]

What do you think we do before orbit?

[mild parrot]

THEN BECOME EVEIL

[hushed steeple]

The winged light is our power

Our power is friendship

[mild parrot]

Power to fly

HOW ABOUT POWER TO DESTROY MAUAHA

[proud heron]

Is there more info on the Prince in theories?

[livid valley]

i found it 😄

[proud heron]

I just read the confirmed lore

And

The Eye of Eden is a giant fractured power diamond/darkstone

Wow

Interesting~

[cosmic portal]

this is the actual eden elder, the eden king, he was scrapped before sky released

can we mobe on

[mild parrot]

TGC should make a sky comic and put all this lore in it.

[hushed steeple]

Is that elder or just monster

[proud heron]

All I can see is the ice titan

[cosmic portal]

elder

they got scrapped

[hushed steeple]

Where does it say that

[mild parrot]

I would love if they did that

[livid valley]

i have the old concept of elders! 😄

[hushed steeple]

This text is for ants

TGC should make a sky comic and then pull a tf2 comic and never update or finish it

[mild parrot]

Apparently they gonna add additional content so maybe this Eden elder might be in it...

[hushed steeple]

Also

How do you know the kid isn't that monster?

The monster is the kid infected with darkness

[livid valley]

All elders of the realm in old concepts

[mild parrot]

TGC should make a sky comic and then pull a tf2 comic and never update or finish it
@hushed steeple yeah, we'd all get invested and the next will never come. But they could just hire comic artists to do it and stuff.

[desert sun]

oh how theyve grown

[cosmic portal]

How do you know the kid isn't that monster?
well i guess we really dont know, eden was one of the most changed map in sky along with isle

[livid valley]

I also have the old concept of capes

[cosmic portal]

dang old isle was different

[drowsy spoke]

Hm guys

[heady sequoia]

It was

[drowsy spoke]

You know how there was someone talking about the thing where sky:children in the light is the first game in like a series?

So what do you think the next game will be?

[heady sequoia]

OOOOOOOO IM EXCITED NOW

[drowsy spoke]

Okay I'm not sure about this I read it somewhere

Maybe this was in a fever dream

[heady sequoia]

A village or a cilivizan* of sky kids

[drowsy spoke]

Please don't be disappointed because of me

Sky: Villigars of the light

[livid valley]

so

we can eat

[heady sequoia]

Sorry i suck at spelling-
@drowsy spoke nonsence im never disapointed with tgcs games

[drowsy spoke]

Nono I was trying to say that I'm not sure they're actually gonna make another game

I have a vague memory of reading something like that

[livid valley]

it will take years tho grantee

[heady sequoia]

They still-

Will

[drowsy spoke]

So I'm saying that I have pretty lucid dreams so if it's not true don't be disappointed XD

[heady sequoia]

And das good

[drowsy spoke]

Wait so is it confirmed?

[livid valley]

not confirmed

[drowsy spoke]

Okay

[heady sequoia]

Well uh i have a memory of an article saying-

[livid valley]

but its posibble

[drowsy spoke]

@heady sequoia Yeah that's me too

[livid valley]

its just takes years

[drowsy spoke]

Like vague memory of article

Somewhere, in sometime, in someplace

[livid valley]

to make something beatiful like sky

[drowsy spoke]

Yeah true

[heady sequoia]

A village

A village i say

[drowsy spoke]

Sky: villagers of the light

You farm candles, like actually farm candles

You plant them

[livid valley]

to make a village is hard enough already

[drowsy spoke]

And harvest them

And have little cottages with your pet crabs and mantas

[livid valley]

have to do many many desgining

[drowsy spoke]

And go fishing for big black shrimps

[heady sequoia]

And soldiers

[drowsy spoke]

Wait this is a lore channel

[heady sequoia]

To protect us from krill-
What oof

[drowsy spoke]

Haha poor people that will have to read all of this

Like I just realized we're not talking about lore at all XD

[livid valley]

want to see the old concept of the capes?

[drowsy spoke]

Sure!

[livid valley]

its spoiler after all

[heady sequoia]

Hehehe

So beatiful i need it

[cosmic portal]

dang

i want it

[heady sequoia]

Same

[livid valley]

im guessing some of these capes are manta

[drowsy spoke]

Woah

They look like birds

[heady sequoia]

Maybe they comeback as seasonal cape 🙂

[livid valley]

maybe

[drowsy spoke]

they have taaiiils!!!

and butterflies!!!

[livid valley]

just heard rumors

[drowsy spoke]

Hm guys

I feel like the lore findings are like a big all over the place

[heady sequoia]

What will the new season be

[drowsy spoke]

Do we have like a big goal that we're pointed towards finding?

[livid valley]

i cant tell

is a spoiler

[drowsy spoke]

-_-

[desert sun]

this is the spoiler chat bro

[drowsy spoke]

Yeah

[livid valley]

BETA spoiler

[drowsy spoke]

Oh..

[heady sequoia]

Oh

[desert sun]

ahhhhh

[heady sequoia]

WHYYYYYYYY

[pulsar dragon]

you can talk about things when they go live

[drowsy spoke]

Can we make a group and then you beta spoil it for us :D?

[pulsar dragon]

if they are in beta, do not talk abt it yet

[desert sun]

man bless you for not saying then

[drowsy spoke]

darn

[heady sequoia]

:mad:

[livid valley]

already have one #beta-discussion-android

[drowsy spoke]

😄

WAit so question

Do we have like... a common big goal we're finding?

Like right now we're just discovering random things like pots and crystals and things

But when you look at the big picture it's still confusing?

[livid valley]

;0;

[drowsy spoke]

^^ that looks like a big koi fish

[livid valley]

the whale?

[drowsy spoke]

Nono your emoji

;O;

It looks like a koi fish

[livid valley]

AHAH

[hushed steeple]

The whale is the manta elder

[vague plover]

[sly kestrel]

W H A L E

[pearl void]

What will the new season be
@heady sequoia there's hint out there hehe

[sly kestrel]

Shhhh

[drowsy spoke]

There is?

Pleae tell us!

[sly kestrel]

Any season leaks or hints is most likely from beta, and any information that was given from beta channels or YouTube videos is not allowed here. Beta content stays in beta channels

And yes I did the point emote bc I wanted to know what it feels like to be nagati

[ember zodiac]

Do we have like... a common big goal we're finding?
@drowsy spoke To bring back the elders to Orbit by giving them our light and freeing them

[drowsy spoke]

Haha no I'm talking about the lore channel

Like what's the big thing we're trying to look for

[ember zodiac]

Do y'all hear cheering in the valley races?

Are there more spirits?!!

[coral quail]

It’s the wind running through the mountains that makes it sound like cheering, I believe is the lore explanation. Game-design wise, it sets the tone for the area

(There are always two answers. One lore, one game design)

[rotund oak]

Teach me the ways of lore

I must know

[hushed steeple]

What did they mean by this

[sly kestrel]

Each realm represents a stage of life

Birth, childhood, teenage years, adulthood, midlife crisis, old age/enlightenment and death

That’s what those posters are showing

The drawings on there are simply old concept drawings of the elders and the realms

[hushed steeple]

But that's not how it works

Thats deep

[sly kestrel]

Wdym it’s not how it works
I got it from a livestream 😂

Unless they lied to the entire audience, then what I said earlier is what’s canon and it’s something I can actually confirm

[hushed steeple]

What did they mean by this

That's not a picture of orbit

[marsh isle]

Woah that looks cool

[desert sun]

its most likely a concept for orbit

[marsh isle]

Probably is

[desert sun]

every picture in there is from concept art

and office holds no hints to the lore as anything in it isnt canon

including the area itself

[marsh isle]

I'm assuming this is the concept art to the golden wasteland?

it reminds me of it

[desert sun]

yupp

[marsh isle]

Part of me wished they used that instead

[desert sun]

ha ha im glad they didnt use the concept art for krill

[sly kestrel]

What did they mean by this
@hushed steeple thats simply jus a concept art poster but the stage of life posters are the ones next to the table

[ember zodiac]

You haven't seen the old orbit probably

Old orbit

@hushed steeple

[hushed steeple]

Yeah, because android didn't get outdated cool orbit

[ember zodiac]

I'm assuming this is the concept art to the golden wasteland?
@marsh isle looks like the graveyard

Yeah, because android didn't get outdated cool orbit
@hushed steeple Nah new one is more peaceful and beautiful

[brittle gull]

Now that we have the Ark we can see the huge difference between the 2 ships. This one looks like a derelict ship from our world while the Ark has game lore design. I am now curious as why?

[sly kestrel]

Well don’t look at it and compare it to the enchantment ark jus bc it’s a big boat

Think of it

Like a cargo ship

[ember zodiac]

Now that we have the Ark we can see the huge difference between the 2 ships. This one looks like a derelict ship from our world while the Ark has game lore design. I am now curious as why?
@brittle gull I think shipreck ship was a goods ship or something

And ark is smaller and carried passengers

[sly kestrel]

U don’t have to quote every statement since the message is recent

[ember zodiac]

[real ether]

bird??????

[brittle gull]

Definitely cargo ship; I can't help but notice how much it reminds me of a derelict ship from our own world. It has always been at the back of my mind, but could not put a word to it, now that we have Ark, the difference in design is huge! Even the small boats we see scattered around the realms have more commonality in design with the Ark than this ship. So I am still wondering.

[sly kestrel]

It’s simple

The ark, the cargo ship and all the boats found in sky have different purposes and built for different uses

There were also technology improvements at some point

So not every boat is gonna look the same

[brittle gull]

Ark and boats are made of stone, this ship is metal, like the pipes.

Anyway, I keep wondering on my own. ☺️

[sly kestrel]

If u take a close close look at some of the pipes u will notice some are actually made of stone as well

[celest spoke]

What I can’t figure is why does shipwreck have so many windows and for that matter where was the ship’s waterline supposed to be???

Maybe it was actually a warehouse? Might explain turret/tower (beacon?) thing at one end which would otherwise seem dangerously unbalanced

[sly kestrel]

Titanic

[celest spoke]

When I carry an instrument I always chill up front by the lantern and play “My Heart Will Go Oooooooon”

[humble barn]

do I see manta

[royal kiln]

Wait I saw a krill on my way to the lost ark

[humble barn]

yup there's one krill there

[royal kiln]

Never saw it before lol

[humble barn]

It can be the one krill depicted in the Ark mural

[royal kiln]

Yeah that would be a very boomer krill

How long do they live

I mean light creatures live as long as there is light but what about krills

[humble barn]

we don't know their lifespans

[waxen elbow]

We've never seen a dead krill so...

[humble barn]

and I personally think light creatures also could die of old age

[wind root]

we are light creatures too

and we die

[humble barn]

btw I am not an artist but I made some graphic illustrations for our manta bone theory

*Manta Bone Theory

• Transparent creatures in vault are not real living creatures, but are some kind of interactable holograms (Supporting evidences: Vault cutscene mural + vault livestream, the vault manta call spirit being named "Memory Whisperer", disappearance of spirit mantas in a distance, the huge vault diamond receiving lights from multiple projection cubes before it moves up while the elevator itself having its own power diamond attached below)
• The bones at the 4th level of vault are of a manta (Supporting evidences: The bones giving us spirit manta call, the small cosmic manta flying around the bones, the 4th level being the valley level)
• The bones at the 5th level of the vault and wasteland graveyard are of long-extinct(?) multiwinged mantas (Supporting evidences: The 5th level being the wasteland level, wasteland graveyard bones having similar skulls as the bones at the 4th level of vault, existence of multiwinged creature at the 5th level of the vault, with huge rib bones places at the same level)
  Note: Manta Bone Theory is not my own but is based on findings and theories made by multiple people in this channel.*

I know my drawings are poor😂 but hope these could explain what I meant to explain

[brittle gull]

Seasons seem to follow the realm unlock path. We are just finishing in Wasteland, I would not be surprised if 6th season took place in Vault. Then the following season would logically point to the 7th realm: Eden. It would be a fantastic opportunity for tgc to use it as a launchpad to following spirits to their original homeworld, so we would learn more about them, history of light an dark creatures, and Skykids' creation too.

[steep coyote]

Yes yes yes
YES

But how would we save spirits in eden?

:0

[brittle gull]

Maybe a new area added to the Eden map, where we would learn what happened in the realm which is now Eden?

Then with the cutscene we would depart together with the spirits, instead of being reborn again?

Sky 2 awaits 🙂

[steep coyote]

Plus another thing: I think Krills are not real living creatures like Mantas or Crabs. They are most probably machines, that can be explained by their sounds, they sounds like a machine when they move. Plus everytime we see a Krill their route is already planned, they keep spawning and guarding the same areas. Another example is the 3 Krills in the last part of Westeland, they appear if u actually activate the last switch in order to get away to the place, not before. If a Krill spot us their only "Eye" becomes red, but they don't attack us immediately, they actually start making a lot of noise and the light procedes to light up even faster, like they are saying "Alert, intruder spotted, go away from here". Another thing: they release a black dust that seems like Petroil or something like that. When they attacck us they don't actually bite us, they just push us away! But the impact is so strong that we are sent away and we loose our lights, that's because they are actually heavy.

Then with the cutscene we would depart together with the spirits, instead of being reborn again?
@brittle gull

I would love that! But idk if the Devs wants to make a possible Sky 2, because that would kinda ruin the message of the game?

[sturdy gate]

So let me understand
Winter wasn’t taking place in a realm
Gratitude wasn’t talking place in a realm
Lightseekers was possibly Isle or even more possibly Forest
Belonging seemed to be in Forest again so that means lightseekers might actually be in Isle
Rhythm was clearly in Valley
Enchantment is definitely taking place in Wasteland

It looks like the realm thing only started around Belonging

[steep coyote]

The next season will be in Praire

If the rumors are true

[warped reef]

Got a good shot of the building in the first area of Eden, thought i’d share for lore purposes

[hoary violet]

In forest?

It's said to be a whale skeleton-

[ember zodiac]

The floating castle in Eden maybe the King's castle

Duh.. I can't figure where the Megabird cinematic audio plays... Maybe you guys can help?

If the extension of the file is missing just add a .wav at the end of its name

[foggy wren]

Hi I spent some time scrolling but had a hard time determining if or where there is a place with confirmed lore that can be read through ?

[sly kestrel]

We don’t have every confirmed answer of lore on top of our head
Sadly we jus have theories and that’s what this chat is for

Lore “discussion”

But there is SOME confirmed stuff in the pins 👉🏼

[foggy wren]

Okay I thought i saw someone say they read through some confirmed stuff and just wanted to ask and WOW I’m new to discord and had no idea about the pins thank you Jay !!

[blazing terrace]

I know we see the mega bird at the end of the credits in rebirth, is that it?

[waxen elbow]

Yeah I think so

I missed some huge parts of the discussion so...

[hushed steeple]

Is this constellation before rebirth supposed to represent megabird as well?

I wouldn't call it false, nothin is confirmed or not confirmed. I finished all the constellation s, however I never noticed that until last night 🤦‍♂️. All of the times I have been and did not see it, I also did know there was a bench in there.

[desert sun]

this was ignored earlier but im bringing it back because this building really intrigues me as well

its the only "building" in eden that we can really see/walk into

and it has 2 swords and a shield inside of it, which causes a lot of ppl to think of it as some sort of weapons storage

[ember zodiac]

I wouldn't call it false, nothin is confirmed or not confirmed. I finished all the constellation s, however I never noticed that until last night 🤦‍♂️. All of the times I have been and did not see it, I also did know there was a bench in there.
@hushed steeple It is.. And u see it again before the credits end

I think it is called the Megabird... Because there are files named Megabird in game

[sly kestrel]

Not jus files

Have u forgotten our huge library of concept art

[compact scarab]

https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1

[hushed steeple]

Not jus files
@sly kestrel
I thought most of the concept art is no longer canon.

[sly kestrel]

It’s not

Well most of em aren’t

But @/𝕲𝖊𝖗𝖆𝖑𝖙 𝖔𝖋 𝕽𝖎𝖛𝖎𝖆#2828
Made it sound like he got the word “Megabird” jus from the game files and I was jus tryna say that there was a lot more megabird references than jus the game files

[ember zodiac]

Nah nah

I mean it's almost confirmed that the Megabird is called the Megabird🤣 🤣

[sly kestrel]

Ur confusing me

....it’s an old concept of a high entity of light and the name “megabird” never changed

Idk where ur goin with this

[ember zodiac]

I found the megabird textures

😋

Idk where ur goin with this
@sly kestrel Someone said sometime earlier that the name Megabird isn't confirmed by TGC I'm kinda confused

[sly kestrel]

Yea and it is

The name megabird never changed

[ember zodiac]

I'm thinking of looking at other texture names and the open and see what they are

[hushed steeple]

So i found this building in eden,it looks interesting

[ember zodiac]

The broken castle at the beginning of isle cutscene is eden right?

[hushed steeple]

I dont think thats it

[acoustic inlet]

I was thinking about the reason why the isle's elder isn't in the Eden's gate... maybe that explaination in tomcept, at least in this part, ramains in the atual current canon...

[hushed steeple]

Here is a little closer look

[acoustic inlet]

this is the vault

if you look back while you are in front in the Eden's gate you can see it.

[lethal stump]

Builder: sir I dunno if this is the correct direc—
King: just BUILD IT
It: ^

[ember zodiac]

[rare field]

ppffp

[crimson grove]

@ember zodiac and all in this chat: please refrain from sharing any of the game files. that's borderline on some more problematic and serious topics we would like to avoid here

[desert sun]

rlly? how come ?

[sly kestrel]

I knew it was a crime

[ember zodiac]

Oh kay Mirian

[sly kestrel]

Mirian has been typing for a while, it must b rlly important
Maybe we should pin it

[ember zodiac]

Hmm

[crimson grove]

this is a really big server maintained by the devs of the game, and this channel is to talk about theories and lore presented by the game itself- with the help of other officially shared media like concept art and the devs livestreams. the game files are not meant to be accessed by players, and while viewing them causes no harm, sharing them here and talking about it can spark all kinds of discussions that, at best is not the intended way to see that content, and at worst venture into hacking territory

[ember zodiac]

Okay Mirian..

Didn't actually share but still shared..

Won't happen again

Just tried to view the file names and what they represented in game so that we can get a more clear picture of the lore

[crimson grove]

I understand the intention, and that is not a bad thing in itself, but the discussion in such a big server is what might be problematic, so we just avoid it altogether

[ember zodiac]

I won't share how I extracted them. Don't worry

[eternal valley]

perhaps... the spirits were petrified from an accident in Eden, freezing people to wherever they were last. Eden's red power diamond bears a similarity to a volcano, so what if the event that ended all of their lives was a blast of something like volcanic ash? What if it happened multiple times in history? Perhaps they just petrify once they're already dead, in place of decomposition

[ember zodiac]

perhaps... the spirits were petrified from an accident in Eden, freezing people to wherever they were last. Eden's red power diamond bears a similarity to a volcano, so what if the event that ended all of their lives was a blast of something like volcanic ash? What if it happened multiple times in history? Perhaps they just petrify once they're already dead, in place of decomposition
@eternal valley So I'm not the only one who think it looks like a volcano

perhaps... the spirits were petrified from an accident in Eden, freezing people to wherever they were last. Eden's red power diamond bears a similarity to a volcano, so what if the event that ended all of their lives was a blast of something like volcanic ash? What if it happened multiple times in history? Perhaps they just petrify once they're already dead, in place of decomposition
@eternal valley U can compare the darkness to the volcanic ash

Do Crabs really hide when krills spot them?

[sly kestrel]

Yep

They hide in their shells

[night sleet]

Hmm cool

[ember zodiac]

They hide in their shells
@sly kestrel what if they were turned upside down?

[sly kestrel]

Nah they only do that when they honk

When the krill spotlight hits them they jus get scared and hide under the shell

[acoustic inlet]

I just found out we can catch the red light in shipwreck area... is there any lore discussion about that?

[humble barn]

there was some discussions and i think you can find them by searching

and as always, we still don't know why

[acoustic inlet]

thank you

[stuck geode]

whoa

[humble barn]

I wanna point out that volcanic explosions can kill people but won't petrify them. The famous Pompeii human remains were made by injecting plaster into holes which were found during excavation: People's buried bodies had slowly decomposed and left holes in the thick volcanic ash layers.

[worthy mist]

Yes, but the next town over had vesuvius' lava petrifying them (mostly bcs tenctonic shifts and an impending tsunami aided that), but hey it means lava petrification is possible if followed by instant cooling temps. And eden is very...windy.

[humble barn]

didn't know about that. won't lava just burns people out?

[worthy mist]

It does! But instant petrification is a little like fossilization

I think someone actually found bones @_@

[humble barn]

bones?

[worthy mist]

BooOoOooones, yes. Within the shell of a petrified human.

Ghastly

[humble barn]

I want to know about that more to look it up myself

I live in a place where we have multiple volcanoes around and I never heard of human petrified by volcanic explosion

[worthy mist]

Lemme see if i can find something

[drowsy spoke]

WOAH WOAH OWAH

I'm sorry but you know how you can catch the light in shipwreck and in the forgotten ark?

What if the two places are connected?

Like okay, someone probably has already said this, but what if the shipwreck is like forgotten ark but in the past or something?

Or maybe the future

Like I know there's the theory that the two places are probably just two islands, but what if forgotten ark the farm place, after years and years of decomposition, turns into the shipwreck place?

And that's why the red light is still there!

Like I'm pretty sure lights don't wither away or whatever, so it would make sense for it to stay there

[sly kestrel]

Hmmmm nope ur the first one to say this

[drowsy spoke]

Really?

Cool!

And the thing is, we already established that the forgotten ark events happened in the past... like way past. So the timeline works out

[pulsar gyro]

That makes sense

[ember zodiac]

I just found out we can catch the red light in shipwreck area... is there any lore discussion about that?
@acoustic inlet yea I found that too only yesterday... There are two red light locations

[desert sun]

people say there are 2 red light locations so you can pick up the red light if u want to during regular candle runs

[sly kestrel]

That’s what I always assumed

[drowsy spoke]

I know but I wanna work it into the lore too

Everything is lore~

[ember zodiac]

people say there are 2 red light locations so you can pick up the red light if u want to during regular candle runs
@desert sun oh

The gong at the end of the orbit feels so peaceful and holy.

[shadow coyote]

Yesss

[kindred oar]

And the thing is, we already established that the forgotten ark events happened in the past... like way past. So the timeline works out
@drowsy spoke how do you guys know that forgotten ark happened in the past? Sorry, I'm new to the community and the discord

[latent onyx]

About the shipwreck and the ark:

The theory you brought up could be true but there are things I get confused about.

Let’s suppose the two are the same ship. If the ark was there before the shipwreck then someone/something must have tried to fix it. The Krill who patrols the entrance area of the ark then must have tried to stop the fixing as the shipwreck is wrecked obviously.

Furthermore, the ark has a completely different shape, it has two floors while the wreck has three.

The last thing is about the location. The ark is covered in sand and around it there are dunes. If you look at how the wasteland is made from above, the ark is quite distant from the shore where the wreck is. And considering the weight of the ark compared to the water it could not just have been carried over there by the waves as it would have drowned.

[hushed steeple]

Yeah that makes sense i was also kinda confused about how ark and shipwreck are connected😅

[drowsy spoke]

Haha yeah it's just a small theory tho but one that I like

there's no saying that the two are the SAME SHIPS, it's just that they are at the same location

(It can't be the same ship anyhow, unless the light can move up and down)

And for long distances

So the ark and the ship can be different ships

Just that the light was there, in the farm, and decades of wind and sand an erosion and earthquakes and tsunamis ended up having a ship crash and slide UNDER the light- probably while it was up high high- and cause it to lodge in the shipwreck

The things that happened in between still need to be worked out tho

But we can also consider that the ark is the shipwreck

This will need a lot of suspension of disbelief tho

Okay so let's say someone (inbetweeners spirit time and sky kid time) came in going oh boy, let's fix this ship

And they build a new level and fix up the structure bits, because maybe a lot of it would have rotted away at that point

The paddles, without magic, probably wouldn't have worked, so he could have sawed that off to use as naterials

And he probably did a bit of testing, but obviously it didn't work because he wrecked... this time near the red light

Worker bro died, leaving the shipwreck behind with the red light

Wind, pollution, and natural stuff caused the rivers and all the geographical changes

And here we go

[undone yacht]

is there any lore for krill?

[celest spoke]

From upthread: are there genuine examples of human petrifaction vs stuff like natural mummification (dehydration), saponification (fats reacting with alkaline minerals), or whatever they call what happens in acidic peat bogs (iirc more like leather-tanning)?

[hoary violet]

From upthread: are there genuine examples of human petrifaction vs stuff like natural mummification (dehydration), saponification (fats reacting with alkaline minerals), or whatever they call what happens in acidic peat bogs (iirc more like leather-tanning)?
@celest spoke there's a rare disease called Fibrodysplasia ossificans progressiva (wikipedia whoo) which causes damaged soft tissue to become bones. It's really disturbing-

i dont know if that helps but aaaa it exists-

[vague plover]

I'm going to eden to goof off and get an elder hair, does anyone want any pictures of anything past no return? I'm gonna be there for awhile

[celest spoke]

hmmm, I guess calcification counts in which case also lithopedion (stone baby, usually from ectopic pregnancy) but back to lore...

anyone have ideas why there’s a crescent moon or eclipse in the Orbit flare as you leave the statue field, but not from the castle on the way up?

(or then again, maybe there is..? but still why)

[ember zodiac]

The moon is always there

You can see it through the holes in the clouds in the ark

In golden wasteland, its evening.

In vault, its night.

In Eden its post midnight, or late night

[celest spoke]

it shows up over the office on space night too actually

reviving the question of whether Skyworld is tidally locked (wrt regular realms, not office)

meanwhile to invoke full-on timey-wimey sphere, what if it’s actually the remnants of Shipwreck buried behind Ark? there are some weird quasi-metallic structures inside that qanat

[covert isle]

You mean the anchor?

[ember zodiac]

Hmm.. Maybe the time of day doesn't change to reduce the load on the CPU and GPU..

And the time of the day on each realm signifies a different phase of life

[spring laurel]

Elders are fallen angels, spirits are nephilim, sky is Atlantis, diamonds are forbidden fruit, eden spirit is Yahweh, the storm is the flood?

Just an analogue not saying it’s a direct rip. All the best stories have mythic analogues in my mind

[celest spoke]

Not the anchor— in the underground waterway, the winged light is in a broken thin-walled tube like a pipe, and some archway tops have thin jagged/twisted bits that suggest corroded metal to me though in theory they could also be natural caveformations

And yeah, the time-of-day stuff mostly relates to life phase symbolism, but the time does change at Home OH HEY IS HOME THE MOON

[short summit]

Why are the archives flooded

[tender dune]

Anyone noticed the stars above? ||when you get reborn in eden?|| i took a pic but dunno if i should post here or not

[pulsar gyro]

What happened to the people already living in the clouds when the stars fell

[sly kestrel]

They died a long time ago

Those were the spirits

Of course....they were alive once
But the memories we see from the spirits are memories from the ppl that lived down there

[ember zodiac]

Elders are fallen angels, spirits are nephilim, sky is Atlantis, diamonds are forbidden fruit, eden spirit is Yahweh, the storm is the flood?
@spring laurel The anology in Sky is taken from different religions..

Anyone noticed the stars above? ||when you get reborn in eden?|| i took a pic but dunno if i should post here or not
@tender dune Yeah.. That is the Megabird

What is the blue dot thing in here? Valley flying race..

[ember zodiac]

Yes

[tender dune]

This ^^

[ember zodiac]

That is the Megabird

[tender dune]

What is the blue dot thing in here? Valley flying race..
@ember zodiac happens to me too. I think its a bug

[ember zodiac]

You will see it again like this at the end of the credits

[tender dune]

Ohhh

[vague plover]

Maybe it's a sun of sorts??

Or moon

[tender dune]

I thought this was megabird

[ember zodiac]

Everything is Megabird

[tender dune]

I should see the credits again for details

[vague plover]

Everything the light touches is mega bird

[tender dune]

Everything is Megabird
@ember zodiac yeah i figured that out

[ember zodiac]

Watch in YouTube

[tender dune]

[ember zodiac]

Megabird is the essence of life

It may or may not be God tho

[tender dune]

Yeah

[zealous sedge]

@acoustic inlet , the word (beginning with C) you are using is triggering the auto censor. Try to reword it so you can take it out.

[acoustic inlet]

oh thank you

[willow pumice]

The ship in wasteland is full of this yellow energy transmitter thing that we see on the forest castle, what are your ideas about this?

[acoustic inlet]

omg

[sly kestrel]

They are also on the top of the machine right above you

[acoustic inlet]

I figure out they don't worship Megabird, at least not in the way monotheistics do their adoration for a supreme God (for exemple), because we can't notice any evidence of this through the realms. I think sky's culture is based on a deep respect for ancestors in which the elders are a kind of canalization or a path to the light.

[sly kestrel]

I call em diamond carriers, the only purpose I see them for is....carrying diamonds
Once the power diamonds were made, maybe thy were refined or put into this carriers before actually using them

Also we dunno if the megabird is even confirmed in game yet 😉

[acoustic inlet]

There are references to megabird in the credits, secret level and orbit, perhaps it is not a relevant fact for the events that culminated in the current situation in the world, but megabird is referenced there.

[willow pumice]

@acoustic inlet In my opinion this crystal symbol is the symbol of light and life, in other words this is the symbol of the MegaBird. If we think like that, we can say that they were clearly monotheist, otherwise who would use the symbol of the Megabird even on their tablecloth, I am not talking about maybe a thousand other places that they used this symbol on.

[night sleet]

There are also dimonds on some elders clothing

[acoustic inlet]

that's a good point

This symbol is the same all over the realms?

[willow pumice]

Yes

[desert sun]

i always assumed that symbol is somewhat similar to the lone star, as a way to signify that its part of something bigger

in this case the spirits skykids and elders all bear this symbol bc they are all connected to the light

(im just assuming elders have this symbol on them as well bc i havent looked at them myself otherwise this theory falls apart )

[indigo scarab]

Yeah im pretty sure one does on their back

Dont remember which, but i remember it from when i glitched into a cutscene room

[willow pumice]

My other theory is there were a dictator leader of sky kingdom and he/she forced people to use this symbol on everywhere even on their tablecloth.

[indigo scarab]

Bam

All of them have it nevermind

[acoustic inlet]

Maybe is representation of the elder's heart... the missing part

[desert sun]

all tombstones have that

[acoustic inlet]

Yes

But it's kinda intriguing

[desert sun]

very sky really likes diamond shaped things

[acoustic inlet]

it's intriguing the missing part... in the heart place.

it's a vital organ

They represents the heart with the diamond shape

This is interesting

This shows us how important the diamonds are... like vital.

It's confirmed the temples aren't the elders' home, it's just a important place from them... the missing heart, maybe represents that they aren't really there... if the heart isn't... you got it?

[pulsar gyro]

Maybe ur right, mayhe it just shows they don't live there

Because it's on all of them

[ember zodiac]

I think the people worshipped the Elders as Gods and were simply unaware of the Megabird

The supreme entity

Or they knew it but they didn't worship it directly.. but worshipped the Elders as the manifestations of the Megabird

[celest spoke]

the <🔸> symbols may derive from a stylized boat

[ember zodiac]

Isn't there a boat designer in Prairie?

The Yawning spirit

[jade river]

Found a krill horn here at forgotten ark

(Maybe you already found it but i wanted to share it)

Also this would tell that there are confirmed 2 dead krills in the sky game

[serene pulsar]

Alright who’s out here murdering krills

[celest spoke]

oo, where is that ark krill horn exactly? I can try to get better lighting with boom staff, next time I go look at the lil cave under the front end of the main Ark

[jade river]

Enter the forgotten ark and go to the bottom right

[steep coyote]

Just wondering... What if this is a huge Coffin?

[vagrant badge]

O.o

[heady sinew]

There's also a group of those statues at the end of Eden when you fly towards orbit if you angle your camera to the left

[vague plover]

@steep coyote some of us believe this disks are a power source that powers those floating rings in (I forgot the name of the place but it's in the valley.)

[steep coyote]

Oh but I was talking about the round thing behind the Elder statue in Westeland

[harsh grove]

Hey everyone!! Has anyone noticed how some animals in Sky are sea animals irl? I find it interesting how they take creatures from underwater and make them land/air animals.

The Mantas in Sky are just stingrays that chirp 🥺 The big fish baby is a deep sea fish called a coelcanth. Dark Dragons are just giant goth shrimp. The dark crabs remind me of Kabuto pokemon, which is an interesting cross between an isopod and a horseshoe crab 🧐

I’m a big marine life nerd and... I get really happy when I see giant baby coelcanth 😭💖

[willow pumice]

The huge beam of light which emerges from top of eden is caused by overpowered dark stone. I found that the 8 player gate at praire creates the same light that we see on eden, is it possible to say that 8 people is too much for that little dark stone and it gets overcharged and creates the light?

[abstract swallow]

Where are the candle cakes locations today

[river ivy]

Quick question, what are krill horns?

[spring blaze]

the antennas the krills have

[river ivy]

Ah, thanks

[spring blaze]

probably another power diamond factory

a lot of the places share the same architecture

[lethal stump]

Y’all, I feel like Isle, Prairie, Forest, Wasteland, and Vault all work together like one big production line
Isle is the boat dock/place/thing, where all the boats come from. Then the boats go to Prairie where the jars full of butterflies are put on the boats. Then the boats full of jars go to Forest, where the power diamonds are made using the light of the butterflies. Those diamonds go to Wasteland to be bought and sold and such. Eden (the capital) profits from this whole thing.
I have no clue how Valley ties in and I’m still thinkin

[spring blaze]

in the concept arts valley was considered the capital of the kingdom

notice how the designs of the buildings in valley looks more.. modern and detailed? compared to the buildings in isle, prairie, forest and wasteland where its more stone and paint

[lethal stump]

True

[spring blaze]

valley was more fun and games

[lethal stump]

Although the commie in me feels like it’s a critique on the extreme commodifying of the entertainment industry, and how it’s valued over other things which we truly depend on
But yknow
That’s me overthinking

[spring blaze]

everywhere else is like chill and work

i mean theres a lot of gold lookin stuff in valley

[lethal stump]

Yeah, most definitely

And it has a part legit called ‘the citadel’

[spring blaze]

yep

yknow i always thought a citadel is like a church but no i just looked up what it is and its more of a fortress

[cold steppe]

it's honestly not much of a fortress

it's very open

[spring blaze]

true lmao

[lethal stump]

I think valley is where the high class live...I still believe Eden to be the capital, since the concept elder was the Prince/King

[cold steppe]

well, it's all concept art theorizing

[spring blaze]

i always just thought it was like a church for orbit bc the middle of the area has rhe floating orbs and stuff that looks like the bright light we enter in orbit

[cold steppe]

so we don't really know either way

[lethal stump]

Yeah, but also the fact Eden is always in the centre, even in in-game stuff

[spring blaze]

i still think valleys the capital haha

[lethal stump]

And valley is where the rich live ?

Country ?

Lol

Rome ? Rome..isn’t a country

I mean

1. Rome isn’t a country
2. Italy doesn’t have a king or an emperor
3. It is the capital and the President of Italy lives there

I dunno

Ask Wikipedia

Welp, can’t help you there

[sly kestrel]

When teachers hear the word Wikipedia
“ “

[lethal stump]

This is a Sky lore discussion thing, I’m here for Sky lore discussion

[heady sinew]

Valley is more of a prestigious city. Kind of like a "Go fulfill your studies in this place" vibe, and Eden is more of a "most of the population is here bcz this is the capitol or something" vibe

That's the way I see it

[lethal stump]

Studies ?

[heady sinew]

Like, imagine in real life, some cities have really good universities

[carmine palm]

YES, we can send screenshots

[lethal stump]

Yeah but Valley seems to be an athletics type place

[heady sinew]

And many people wanna go to those, because they are good

[carmine palm]

What do you think could happen with this area if it was expanded upon by TGC

[heady sinew]

Yeah Valley is the sporty place, I'm just saying the type of energy it has. Like a metaphor!

[lethal stump]

I think it’ll be part of the next season

[carmine palm]

This is the bird chamber area of Pineswood

[heady sinew]

Imagine caves

Fireflies

[carmine palm]

@lethal stump That's even more exciting

[heady sinew]

wait fireflies don't live in caves tho

[lethal stump]

no they don’t

[heady sinew]

Imagine if they added more light and dark creatures

[lethal stump]

That’d be cool

[heady sinew]

Bats as dark creatures and they swoop down and cause the same damage as crabs

[lament barn]

agrees

[heady sinew]

Big calling atracts them instead of helping, so you should not honk at all

[carmine palm]

I would like that, but that would be really annoying at the same time

[lethal stump]

Like if a krill and a crab had a kid....

[carmine palm]

Oh! Where we can only walk and be as quiet as possible!!

[heady sinew]

Yes!!

[lethal stump]

Yea !

[carmine palm]

Challenging, I like it >:)

[heady sinew]

The concept art had spiders as part of the dark creature fauna, so if bats are not posible, change that to spiders

[lethal stump]

We should put this in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived

[heady sinew]

I shall do it, then!

[lethal stump]

« A caves area (using the unused gate in the Underground Of Sunny Forest) in which the spiders from the concept art is used. They’re the opposite of crabs, leaning if you honk they attack, so you have to be rlly careful and quiet to make it through »

[heady sinew]

You beat me to it

[drowsy spoke]

Oh bro

Spiders are scary then

What can you do when spiders attack?

Like do you just... await death?

[lethal stump]

Maybe stand still ?

[drowsy spoke]

Yeah I dunno

I kind of wish we have a thing with krills where you can attack back

Like i wanna defend myself not just hide

Give us SPIDERS

[royal kiln]

Krill sized spiders in that desert area in wasteland

[desert sun]

how about... temple sized spiders.....

[potent gate]

How about... #wishlist-and-ideas-archived ?

[vague plover]

[drowsy spoke]

Heh okay back to lore

Hm what where we talking about?

[vague plover]

Beyond me haha

[royal kiln]

Lemme guess... krabs?

[drowsy spoke]

Ah yes

Crabbies

Everyone loves crabbies

[vague plover]

Probably, also I wonder why they can climb so fast??

[drowsy spoke]

I wonder who put the crab grill over in wasteland

[vague plover]

OOHH yes!

[drowsy spoke]

The crabs in sky aren’t exactly like real crabs

There’s like hollow rocks with lots of legs

And I thin k that increases their speed?

They also don’t have pincers

Let’s not think animation

Animation is in our world

We’re talking about SKY WORLD

[vague plover]

Kinda like how birds have air pockets in their bones?

[drowsy spoke]

Ah yeah

Like I view crabs as lazy but dedicated

Like if you’r3 all the way over there it’s like pfft whatever

[vague plover]

Welp I'm crab then

[drowsy spoke]

But if you’re over there it’s like POUNCE

Like a cat

Theory: crabs are sky cats

Yes

They can chill in acid water

Both in Eden and in wasteland

Like real crabs

But they don’t ‘swim’

Kind of like real crabs

Merp

[vague plover]

I swear they scared me so bad by the roast pit they just zoomed up the walls with no hesitation.. like that are they EATING
But anyhow, I find it interesting of the different properties and such, also birds??? Very mysterious

[drowsy spoke]

You don’t see crabs in the sea in wasteland

I think the ocean is th4 only thing keeping crabs from destroying th4 world

Like cats

[vague plover]

Indeed

[drowsy spoke]

[vague plover]

I'm just, there is alot on other creatures in this game but birds? Not so much. Maybe it's a guide of some sort but it intrigues me on they're flight patterns and such

Plus I think the only place we see them land temporarily is in the beginning of prairie I believe

Yeah, does anyone know if any other place they stop and rest?

[sturdy gate]

Some of them appear again in other realms but they’re only some of them

I mean when they land

[vague plover]

Oh really??

Wait do you know kinda vaguely where they land? I'm gonna go see

[sturdy gate]

There are some in ark, right?

[vague plover]

Landing in the ark?

[desert sun]

birds? no

[sturdy gate]

I think??

[vague plover]

I haven't seen any land there but when I go there tomorrow I'll take a look

Anywhere else?

[sturdy gate]

I’ve looked

They’re not there

Hmmm well they must land somewhere else

[desert sun]

what what r we talking about

ohh. iirc the last place you see birds is eden

[sturdy gate]

They don’t land there...

[desert sun]

wait birds can land places?

woahh rlly ?? do u know any places rn??

[sturdy gate]

I’m gonna go chase them

[desert sun]

i totally forgot they do that haha

[sturdy gate]

Bye ahaha

[vague plover]

I think that's the only place they ever land

Bye!🥺💖💞

[desert sun]

cyaaaa

[vague plover]

I love that game!

They usually sit there and on the ledge and then 2 other places in the hub

nO

On either side of the steps leading to the jump on each ledge there is birds squattin

Wait let me

Look closely to the edge and you can see a birb sitting

On the edges on either side though I've see only one sit for far while the other just faze through the ground

[sonic urchin]

Birbs use dark magic

[vague plover]

I am so sorry I need to stop spamming lore with bird watch

Indeed they do

[sonic urchin]

How else would they siphon the light from other creatures and force it into us?

Weeeeeelllll probably.... but. Dark magic

[spring blaze]

dem birds in isle too

iirc they used to fly with you when you reach the ledge before the temple

[ember zodiac]

Sometimes I see a blue butterfly when a finish valley races.

[desert sun]

ah yes.... the infamous isle butterfly... i think thats what we call it

that random butterfly that appears out of nowhere and gives you light

also i will cry if ash actually comes down and says something cryptic about how birds are a significant part of the lore

we still havent solved the crab problem

[ember zodiac]

Hmmm

What crab problem??

[heady sinew]

Their walkcycle is related to their origin

Basically

If we figure what the walkcycle mimics, we figute out part of the crab origin

[ember zodiac]

The ark crab cave

👀

[heady sinew]

After season of enchantment I came up with the idea crabs mimic a boat's oar

[desert sun]

i like the crab investigation bc if we can figure out where crabs come from we can also probably figure out where darkness and dark creatures themselves come from

[sly kestrel]

I also asked them what they meant by their “walk cycle” and then I eventually said “is it how their legs move”

And then they were like “😮”

And ash did did the Illuminati symbol

So rn I’m looking at how their legs move bc they sort of hinted me

But.....their moving legs don’t seem to resemble anything at all

Therefore I gave up 😌

[glacial linden]

The rhythmm??

I always wondered about there being a bigger crab somewhere..... like a bull crab that the others keep trying to mimic or avoid 💭

Plenty of players have called themselves “crab royalty” haha 😅

[ember zodiac]

Geralt those blue butterflies are beta left over
@hushed steeple ooh

[pulsar gyro]

I shall dedicate the next few minutes to watching the movement of crab legs

[spring blaze]

its been an hour wheres rhe crab

[serene slate]

When is the next Travel spirit? ❤️

[spring blaze]

!travellingspirits wrong channel but

[pastel brook]

The next Traveling Spirit is scheduled to arrive on June 11 at 00:00 Pacific Time (UTC -7:00)
You can read how Traveling Spirits work here: http://bit.ly/TravelingSpirits

[serene slate]

Oop sorry i just noticed 😅

[spring blaze]

is alright!

[ember zodiac]

Any idea who's coming?

[drowsy spoke]

Okay back to crabbies

I always thought that crabs are just like wild cats or something

Like the crab royalty people are just people that naturally attract crabs

Like I randomly attract random cats when I’m walking

[worthy phoenix]

I mean crabs are kinda pettable too

[drowsy spoke]

Yeah

But that’s not the point... we need to figure out the origin of crabs

Isn’t it weird that you can’t burn crabs like you can burn plants/?

I’ve held a crab over fire before and it just turned red and started running faster on it’s little legs

Do you think that if we get a bigger fire source the crab will eventually combust and turn into candle wax?

[sly kestrel]

..

[steep coyote]

Just did Eden again and

The Whales don't hit u

[undone yacht]

Also this would tell that there are confirmed 2 dead krills in the sky game
@jade river where are they

[sly kestrel]

I don’t think it confirms it

[drowsy spoke]

Confirmed dead krills?

I thought the bones were whale bones

And also why aren’t whales a big part of the game

Like you see them once in sunny forest

And once at the end

Like why do they even EXIST

[steep coyote]

Oof I think that wasn't a Krill horn, It seems like a piece of anchor or something else

[sick path]

I’ve held a crab over fire before and it just turned red and started running faster on it’s little legs
@drowsy spoke we know you can stab a crab and then cook them over a fire

@sly kestrel @glacial linden @pulsar gyro Also regarding the crab’s leg movements. There is a crab here in Australia that walks forward, called “Soldier Crabs”. They are usually light grey to bright blue...much like the crabs in Sky (depending on lighting)

[ember zodiac]

Did u figure out the origin of mantas and birds?

And once at the end
@drowsy spoke also when going from valley to Wasteland..

[hushed steeple]

Any theory about this statement?
The intro statement
If you know please tell

[humble barn]

there have been so many theories

if only they had listened in: lore-discussion-spoilers

paste ^this to your search box and you can find at least some of them

[hushed steeple]

Ok

Thanks tho

[humble barn]

have fun!

[abstract marten]

Marie Antoinette syndrome is caused by being exposed to stressful or life threatening situations, the stress turns the hair into a hue of white. Similar to how the real life Marie Antoinette had her hair turn white during her execution. Seeing as how Skykids are faced with the constant dangers of the Wasteland and Eden, their hair turning white due to these situations isnt kinda far from the truth.

[cold steppe]

I thought that was a myth

[humble barn]

yeah the episode of her hair color have not been confirmed to be true

and I think elders and spirits also have white hair

[livid slate]

ah that's true tho they do have white hair

[torn silo]

Children is colorless, bald, unmask when they lack of lights. I think warm white is basically color of the light. Cosmetics are different types of light shape.

[craggy nexus]

I think that also ties into how skykids learn through imitation. Similar to how they learn to imitate emotes, they can also learn to imitate the physical appearances of spirits by manipulating the light they are made from? When they run out of light, however, they are unable to maintain the appearence.

[torn silo]

Logic, cause we need spirits to learn everything. Even our hair.

[drowsy spoke]

Yeah

It’s kind of like skykids are toddlers without parents

We need people to teach us stuff

And the hair thing is more like now we do our hair

Like our hair itself doesn’t change, just the way we style it

Without my mom and dad I wouldn’t know how to style my hair either

[ember zodiac]

Hmm.. I think the elders fought among themselves... So they fell

When they were united...

Light was infinite

Does the tower signify a light house or it is the vault?

Light house (port, wasteland)

[uneven sonnet]

That’s the vault

It’s a summit way to ||Eden||

[ember zodiac]

Was this some previous season quest?

The stone

[pearl void]

Was this some previous season quest?
@ember zodiac nope that is actually a watch stone, it shows time when the rainbow will appear

There's one in prairie too

[ember zodiac]

Ooh

Does rainbow appear in prairie too?

[pearl void]

Prairie one is for diffrent purpose, back then it show the boat, but it is not available anymore, now it become decoration

Does the tower signify a light house or it is the vault?
@ember zodiac those towers represent each of the realm temple, from top is eden, mid vault, bottom is wasteland

And the other side is prairie, forest and valley

[near mural]

Anybody have an idea to what the second door is in hidden forest?

[torn silo]

@ember zodiac i think vault is the tower in the heart of wasteland temple (i saw the temple has a high tower in the middle). Like no other realms that base on natural place, Vault just room, it similar to light bank.

[ember zodiac]

Okay😊

[sly kestrel]

@near mural ahhh that was an old door used in beta for a light quest. Lore wise I don’t think it has much relevance

[acoustic inlet]

I suppose the vault is behind this huge wall

[sly kestrel]

Theoretically yea but in my opinion I don’t think it is

[ember zodiac]

I saw the moon today in Shipwreck OOB

[acoustic inlet]

Theoretically yea but in my opinion I don’t think it is
@sly kestrel What do you think about it?

[sly kestrel]

Didn’t rlly put much thought into it tbh

[hushed steeple]

Hi

[desert sun]

@hushed steeple #screenshots-and-videos

[sly kestrel]

Beautiful pic tho

[ember zodiac]

We're closer to the summit