I wonder why they have sooo many religious references
#lore-discussion-spoilers
wild sun
fading bear
There are?
limber canyon
I got a question, regarding the shipwreck, are there any theories about why its there? It seems it transported very valuable things, the golden cubes, that are seen in the temple of forest
clear stone
Hey guys,
I was looking at the Ark and there was some storm with thunder and after that there was definatly a golden krill drawn on it. So I was thinking, if the krill we saw on the way to the Forgotten Ark was the krill that was depicted on the Ark and it had a part in breaking the Ark
Sorry if this theory has already been put forward
sly kestrel
We don’t kno if the krill took part in breaking the ark and the main idea is that the storm caused it to crash
But I’m 99.9% sure that the krill on the mural is the same krill that roams around the mountains
vocal lantern
after looking closer at the valley twins i noticed that they both have an artificial arm
or what seems to be one
wonder what happened
actually both arms look artificial
rotund cipher
what did the corrupted skykid sounds, sound like? i dont need the actual sound itself but i would wanna have a visual or sumth 🥺
novel cloak
I really just want someone to make a YouTube video explaining all the theories
spring whale
or maybe its all just to keep players wondering
sly kestrel
There’s way too many to fit in one video 🙂
vague plover
I'm kinda sad the lore chat isnt active but at the same time.. pretty much everything has been discussed. I hope more interesting things will come our way soon!
I believe they were on it when the crashed because I dont know if they would have been able to find the story of what happened to it if they weren't on it.
vague plover
But it would be a cool concept though! :o I wonder If there was pirates/bandits back then. Because if so I need some of that action.
tranquil gyro
will the ark area stay after the season ends?
lethal stump
brave socket
So here's the thing, I think that this world that sky is set in is technically a post apocalyptic world thing... Here's how it goes
Eden was a main hub area where people (more like settlers) and children(us) came over to find a home or to build a community, they weren't as advanced as humans, but they could use magic. They built the vault to keep information and temples and shrines for the elders and such... They built towering buildings to live/study in and villages to live in. They travelled further and further till they reached a forest that is raining all the time, it was inconvenient but they still found ways to live their lives...
wind bone
The word eden isn’t a spoiler and you don’t have to use spoiler tags here
broken veldt
I heard that the elders are named in Hebrew or something, is that right?
hushed steeple
Can you post the art please?
brave socket
Then darkness struck in the form of the eye, it was kinda like a nuclear bomb? Everything died on the spot. Vault was in a weird ish place so it wasn't struck as hard, but something did die there which what i presume is the big eel thing in the forest or a manta.
Wasteland was struck the hardest, since they were almost a proper civilisation, everything went in ruins, ships that were leaving to help build the villages in prairie were struck down and broken some of the buildings or villages were taken over by crabs and krill...
Valley, was a race track, they buildings were built for the people to cheer on their racers and stuff also crashed down in the hands of the krill...
(hu boi there's more this is longggg)
low mist
does anyone have like a document or something where the most of the lore is in order? i'm new and i'd like to know more about the backstory
brave socket
There's not much definite lore when it comes to sky? I'm sure you can find some stuff in the pinned comments tho!
In forest , nothing much was destroyed… Maybe another manta or an eel at the boneyard area, or some things near the temple which look like storage facilities(?) but in general, nothing much was destroyed since they didn’t have much there…
I felt like darkness went in parts, so prairie and isle weren’t hit as hard, they were more like the aftershock or something.
In isle you could also see like ships and boats crashed down in the sand.
Imo the boats weren’t filled with people, but they were just empty.
Stuff like the season of enchantment is like, some spirits found that there’s another group of people out somewhere, they were affected by an aftershock that didn’t come to them after a long time after their ship crashed.
The children that were in the midst of the eye, ran away in the form of winged light, they found places to hide so that people will either find them or save them
We start off the game as empty husks, confused and not knowing why we’re in this world. We collect winged lights to try and remember who we once were before the eye struck, same reason why we relive the spirits… The spirit let us learn emotions so that we can communicate with other children with noises and emotes…
I think in a point in time, we gave up looking for who we actually were, but instead we take up pieces of the spirits and call them ourselves (another way to say it is that we forgot the main point of why we were playing the game and decided to play it just for fun)
Elders are stuck in like a limbo situation (where they can never leave) , they were broken without the light but they couldn’t fix it themselves, so they waited for someone to help( being children like us).
Yep there it is, my hand is now broken
I feel like there's a lotta loopholes in this so plz tell me ur ops
sacred beacon
We definitely helped the spirits out, so they can ascend to the light. They gift us wax when we die, and help us get back on our feet before rebirth with wing buffs.
O u said elders there
vocal lantern
the explosion would definitely be devastating, but not on the level as a nuke i think
hushed steeple
Nukes aren't that bad
vocal lantern
i saw somewhere that everything within a certain range of a nuke gets vaporized so
hushed steeple
Map of the US of probable targets if russia used 500 or 2000 nukes.
vocal lantern
dang what did montana do
hushed steeple
I mean, I don't want to be in any of those areas, but a couple cities over is fine.
It was mostly important infrastructure and military bases
lilac stone
Golden wasteland is supposed to be closest to eden, right?
So that's why the water went mucky, ships tilted and broke and many buildings fell
sacred beacon
Yeah there's industry stuff in both places too
distant kite
Nukes aren't that bad
@hushed steeple yea no Biggie, just totally destroys a city/region. Whatever
hollow pier
@hoary violet the horns or whatever they are in the shipwreck don’t match krill horns, I’ve taken super close photos of said horns and krill horns and they don’t match
@cold steppe That theory that krill were made is based on concept art about keeping creatures of light away from the hold land
@hushed steeple W O A H
spice crane
does anyone have the megabirb timeline? pic
(couldnt really find it in search 
)
spice crane
aa tysm!
mossy bay
They also managed to get super close to one of they other ‘Factory’ building in GW and made this theory
Have these factories only been found in gw and Forest? Really supports the idea that they have caused the pollution of water in both maps
magic relic
Wow
wicked dragon
That’s a pretty good lore tho I usually think it was an Abandoned Castle or an Abandoned city that the spirits used to live in when the Dark Dragon didn’t exist yet
hushed steeple
@distant kite Yes, not a whole world.
distant kite
Well what's the context?@hushed steeple
Some nukes can destroy a big part of an European country, think of the tsar bomba
And this is only from the explosion
hushed steeple
Someone said a nuke was worse than the eye
I said the eye was worse than a nuke because nukes aren't that big
distant kite
Is there an earth size version of the eye?
hushed steeple
The tsar bomba was actually tested. No eye of eden irl.
distant kite
Oh well
desert sun
Have these factories only been found in gw and Forest? Really supports the idea that they have caused the pollution of water in both maps
@mossy bay just a correction-- the water in forest isnt actually corrupted, its perfectly fine. its only the rain that does damage to you
which opens a bunch of different theories and plot holes
id like to point out that the "water" in wasteland isn't actually water, but its all oil
does this mean its raining oil in forest? 
gilded fossil
/anyone notice the boat under the ice rink tho?
/why it's there? there is no water in any of the surrounding areas
wind bone
Maybe valley used to be a river canal
The sliding race
Wait not the sliding race but the beginning part
And then there was a waterfall going into the ice rink
gilded fossil
/oooh that's sorta make sense
/that would also explain why the strutures are high up and a not around the sledge
mossy bay
@desert sun we haven’t seen any pipes in the forest though so it could have caused a different form of pollution.. air pollution which impacts the clouds and they rain down polluted water on us. I don’t believe all the water in gw is oil.. the shipwreck is on a shore to a sea and there is definitely different island dotted around. I believe it’s polluted water oil is enough to polluted water though
humble barn
I too don't believe the water in the golden wasteland is oil. We can see colorful patterns on the surface of water in wasteland, which means there's probably just a thin layer of oil or something, on the surface of presumably polluted water.
And this season we saw the harmful liquid purified to clear water with magic
gilded fossil
/hmmm, then who's been purifying the river water in forest then?
humble barn
I have no plausible theory on why the river in the forest does not hurt us while the rain does
gilded fossil
/maybe the presence of the stones and magic mushrooms and mantas are purify the water
humble barn
imo the rain is not toxic
gilded fossil
/the lack of krills killing the mantas are probably why
imo the rain is not toxic
@humble barn /or maybe the rain is jusst very very cold
humble barn
yeah
we do shiver when we are first hit by the rain
but that does not explain why we are okay in the icy lake of the valley
fickle glen
I think that the water in valley is clean, unlike the stuff in wasteland
Just like if you're standing in shaded water in forest
gilded fossil
/and you will lose light if you slide down the tunnel if your uncareful
/there's like plenty of sun in valley
@gilded fossil
fickle glen
The clue for the blue light also says something about pure waters in valley
gilded fossil
/yeah but why the rain harms us in forest but not the water?
/why doesnt the rain dilude into the water?
fickle glen
Forest rain might actually be acid rain from diamond production
/why doesnt the rain dilude into the water?
@gilded fossil magic (jk I really don't know)
humble barn
then comes the question why do we shiver
fickle glen
We cold bois
fickle glen
It is le pure water
I'm thinking that we're only affected by polluted water
Which that pollution is basically darkness crap
gilded fossil
/so like we rain->polluted,cold-> shiver
river in forest->pure-> (wait can someone confirm we shiver in the river?)
valley->pure->dont shiver
fickle glen
then why don't we shiver in the icy cold water
@humble barn If the jellyfish can survive there, so can we
humble barn
jellyfish can survive the rain but we can't
fickle glen
Oop
There goes that
That mini jellyfish in the broken bridge is going strong
If you stand in the river in forest, you don't lose light if it's not raining in that part. I stood under the reconstructed bridge in the water and it was fine
humble barn
yeah and the giant ones too. before the rain did not stop in the area
so this forest river-is-okay but rain-is-not mystery is really puzzling
gilded fossil
/theory: the mantas/jellys pures the water but cant purify the rain since it's sorta going every direction
fickle glen
Ooooo the mantas also survive in rain I forgot that haha
gilded fossil
/in wassteland the krills jusst headbutts all the mantas -> dirty water
fickle glen
And the jellyfish rise out of the water in forest...
humble barn
if there's a spring of clear water in the forest
we can say that the river is okay because dilutes the toxic rain
like, there's harmful level of poison in rain but in the river it's below the toxic range
fickle glen
Therefore the river wouldn't be as toxic and the effect of it on a skykid would be too small to be effective
Yup that
humble barn
BUT that does no explain why skykids shiver when they are hit by the rain
gilded fossil
/rain bad
humble barn
😂
humble barn
we don't shiver with acid rain tho
gilded fossil
/why dont we shiver by the acid in wasteland?
humble barn
it's just as cold as normal rain
fickle glen
Dark matter may have the same effect as the cold
because nowhere in valley do we shiver despite there being snow
gilded fossil
/but we dont shiver need the crabs, they're dark matter too?
gilded fossil
/sky kid deep call bacc
mossy bay
Maybe you are right and it’s not the rain that’s harmful at all? But the lack of sunlight? We are the physical manifestation of light maybe we can tolerate low light levels but with the addition of rain it worsens the effect of little to no sunlight.
I’m not sure if this is true so I will ask the question instead. Does anyone know if we recharge faster in prairie/ sunny hidden forest than in gw?
Our natural recharge rate, not by the help of a flame, just our recharge rate when we are walking, or flying
humble barn
I think in most places we cannot recharge on our own except when we lost the last wedge
gilded fossil
/you make it sound like our power is laughing cow cheese wedgies lol
/new theory game is a lie we just collect cheese wedgies
humble barn
our wing power regenerates in the bird's nest and the citadel
^really interesting theory on those areas
willow pumice
What are these yellow stones? I know blue ones are dark stone.
humble barn
they are butterflies
desert sun
when you light up a 2 player door, the diamond goes from blue to yellow
fickle glen
So they are filled with lightttttttt
desert sun
thats what i think at least
fickle glen
humble barn
or something that used to be butterflies
desert sun
diamonds require some sacrifices 
willow pumice
Do you think all the masks and instruments which has dark stone symbol on it work with dark stone? I mean do they get their energy to shine and illuminate from dark stones?
desert sun
thats very plausible ! many things in sky are powered by the stones/diamonds/whatever
willow pumice
Nearly all of the masks have that dark stone symbol
desert sun
including the armillary spheres in citadel
mossy bay
But isn’t that the same symbol we get on our capes?
desert sun
no no this is a different symbol
the ones on our capes is more like a star
this symbol in particular is a diamond shape
its also on skykids chest
willow pumice
Omg there is a dark stone symbol even on our chest
Also the shape of firework staff 😱
desert sun
im not sure the symbol is really "dark stone" i guess it technically is??
dark stones are the things that take away your light in eden
willow pumice
I guess the ones in eden are not pure dark stone, maybe they are overpowered with light idk, pure dark stone color is blue i assume
desert sun
so... light stone? 
broken basin
Why is office in vault.?
mossy bay
That is the symbol on the back of the season of belonging capes though.. a diamond
desert sun
Why is office in vault.?
@broken basin office has no lore connection
its a simple easter egg
broken basin
But it bugs me why they chose vault.
I mean why not any other place???
humble barn
The diamonds on the belonging capes are based off irl sweaters
desert sun
maybe they just liked vault? or they wanted it to be a late-game find
broken basin
Yeah, that can be the reason....
Dark stones are blue and yellow ones are light stones i guess.
Cause when we put our candle near a blue stone it turns yellow.
mossy bay
Oh just a stylistic choice then
humble barn
probably
and power diamonds are mostly square-shaped
tombstones have ◇ as holes
elder stones have those holes too
so i am guessing ◇ is a symbol of light/life
sly kestrel
The concept of darkstone and power diamonds are totally different
craggy nexus
the hole being an absence perhaps?
humble barn
@craggy nexus yes
sly kestrel
Nope
craggy nexus
I think they're similar in concept-- a source of power that eventually corrupts morally and leads to destruction
sly kestrel
Darkstone is something that played a big role in the old concepts
And.....actually yea verdant is right
mossy bay
I just noticed that the light seeker helms are the only ones that don’t appear with a diamond on the forehead give or take a few of the animal masks
sly kestrel
The lightseekers masks and the marks on all of them are supposed to represent a tiny message about the realm they are in. For example, the umbrella spirit in forest has a crying tear
First paragraph
craggy nexus
In old concepts darkstone was mined in forest, and had the property of... absorbing light I think? something similar.
Power diamonds seem to have stemmed from this, as they are created partly from the trees in forest, and partly from butterflies. They consume the light of the butterflies in their creation.
The damage done to the butterflies in the process does not seem to be reversible: unlike the butterflies in graveyard that emerge from that one dark patch after you burn it, activating a diamond doesn't release butterflies. They're gone for good.
It's confirmed that darkness and light always existed, presumably in some sort of balance. Perhaps the harvesting of light to create diamonds upset this balance significantly, causing darkness to spread farther than before?
desert sun
i thought i read one time that the red stones in eden were darkstone, but i guess thatd make no sense
i remember dark stone from the concepts but i just assumed it was retconned
sly kestrel
That’s exactly right!!
In the concepts, darkstone was mined and it was a forbidden power that was in the forest realm, now we have power diamonds that are CREATED in the forest realm
desert sun
i never looked at it that way 
sly kestrel
And I think u got the red stone/darkstone thing from seraph
Darkstone may exist in the current game but it’s not the same as the darkstone in the concepts
desert sun
yea yea thats what i assumed
if we can assume that darkstone and power diamonds are fundamentally the same in concept, can we draw more things from the concepts? and apply it to this version of sky?
willow pumice
Do you think the war that happened on wasteland was between power diamond supporters vs dark stone supporters?
craggy nexus
I don't think so, we don't really have evidence that darkstone was used for powering stuff
sly kestrel
Actually a bit of the opposite
We based the factions on the shield symbols and the sun shield seemed to represent light or something related to the natural side while the diamond symbol represented the industrial side. One of my old theories is that wasteland took diamond production WAYYY too far and the sun shields were against this, eventually an enormous battle struck
willow pumice
This 2 different types of shields gave me that idea
craggy nexus
That makes sense, and would also explain why people were fighting each other
desert sun
would the civil war only be between the habitants of wasteland? i dont see evidence of fighting in other realms
sly kestrel
After all, when a creature’s body is left behind to rot, it means it died of an unnatural cause, like murder
I can only imagine what happened at the graveyard 😖
craggy nexus
Wasteland was the center of industry. But forest and prairie were production areas, so I wonder how they managed to be unscathed..?
Valley seems like it was a civilian area
sly kestrel
Forest and praire started the industry, started allll the diamond production, and then valley used that tech and celebrated and thrived with it
Wasteland then took this too far and built more factories, bigger ones too, and possibly stronger diamonds
sand abyss
oh?
sly kestrel
This is where corruption rlly started to hit
sand abyss
sand abyss
henlo Jay, seems you guys talking bout one of my fave theories hehe!
pffft its fine there I could backread what you guys wrote X'D!
sand abyss
Ah cya then Jay! Tbh we're not too sure about what realllly happened at the graveyard ( and battlefield ). But would be interesting to get some potential tales/secrets as to why that's the case for future seasons/updates
craggy nexus
Hmm, what if graveyard wasn't the source of a battle? There's not really many weapons, besides the catapult. What if they decided to harvest light from larger creatures, such as mantas like emerge from the forest temple, moving up to creatures like whales?
sly kestrel
....slides back in
That’s what I was thinking, instead of tiny butterflies, they started to use bigger creatures, and when my dark mind came to play......I didn’t think of a battle at the graveyard, i thought if it more like a ....slaughter
But anyways I gtg fr now
Byeee
craggy nexus
Yea,,
cya!
sand abyss
byebye!
craggy nexus
It's probably not easy to kill that many whales (or other creatures of that size) at once, so maybe graveyard is just... where they put the bodies..?
Alternatively it could have been a location where it was easy to trap things
mossy bay
Maybe it was their breeding grounds? It would have been easier to make them stay if they had something to protect in the area, something to die for 
mossy bay
Wow that never crossed my mind. They are creature of light and seem to be able to travel to the source (orbit) whenever they want, which is essentially them flocking to their source the megabird, i have no clue
But then what are the statues in Eden and what do they represent? I always thought that the winged lights are aimlessly wandering around the map searching for their other half which has been lost to the storm in Eden. It is us that guides these lost souls back to their other half in Eden and in turn allow them to also ascend back home to the stars
63? I think
That just made me think that the statues in Eden represent something different then, because if my theory was right they would also add an additional statue for every additional winged light..
Exactly
Or maybe they want us to reach a certain point in the storm before the ‘big reveal’ 😄
Just babbling at this point, but i feel that the ending or the game and especially the storm is incomplete
There’s no closure is what I’m trying to say
craggy nexus
I'd like to think we can restore balance of dark / light eventually, but idk
mossy bay
Same I’d like to see the balance restored too, at present it feels like we are just being reborn to die again. Maybe i just expected us to cause a bigger difference once our overall task was complete (Saving all the spirits and unlocking all constellations 100%)
You’ll get there!
desert sun
the way i see it currently is that there is no way to restore a balance of light and dark. thats why skykids are tasked with saving the elders and spirits, maybe because we cant save the world, but we can save whats left
which means returning the spirits and elders to orbit
maybe in a future chapter we can return the world to what it once was or something along those lines
steady oriole
Hey this is my first time popping into this channel. Does anyone know the meaning of you hugging the light kid in Eden?
sly kestrel
We don’t have anything confirmed on the hug besides theories
mellow sable
wait
guys
we forgot a crucial part of the ark plot
in the intro it says "a group of spirits started their voyage towards prosperity"
"take the boat and set sail. follow their path, a new land awaits"
so the ark is in a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COUNTRY
noble sandal
oo that's interesting
maybe they were looking for a new land but didn't quite get there bc they crashed
humble barn
that is why I've been saying that I think the lights were not for restoration but for terraforming
terraforming isn't a correct word tho they were just traveling to a different place on the Sky planet and not to a different planet
maybe I should call it land reclamation
winter girder
No i think those 6 spirir are traders, they just go around and trading thing with their new invent "technology".
humble barn
i see them as scholars based on the ark mural
winter girder
mellow sable
I think the layered capes are royalty and the others are their servants
winter girder
Look at the picture its seems theyre giving something to other "people"
Like potion
humble barn
common people
winter girder
Yes
humble barn
and that happend before the ship left for prosperity
mellow sable
whatever that is
winter girder
Yeah.. maybe theyre look for a new land to trade theyre things, but everything goes wrong😊
humble barn
I would have agreed if the people on the ship were depicted as commoners
mellow sable
I just noticed
all the mural spirits seem to have capes?
what's the distinction between spirits with capes and without capes though
humble barn
scholars on board sound like irl astronauts, that's why i am assuming they meant to find a new land
imo the capes were not a big deal for spirits
mellow sable
could the spirits with capes fly though
mellow sable
and that's why they needed boats
humble barn
yes
sullen sluice
did the spirits have a concept of romantic love? we see examples of familial love (belonging season, hands on hips spirit) but did they have romantic love? the closest we have is the blow kiss spirit but given that spirit's context i don't think it quite fits
cold steppe
I see your point
there's a mom and a dad, and a grandma and a grandpa, so there should probably be something like romantic love, and we're going to leave it at that
peak frigate
cold steppe
that brings us to the question of whether or not skykids feel emotion, or merely mimic
I personally think they mimic
craggy nexus
I definitely think mimic, though they might not have a great grasp of what exactly they're supposed to be mimicking.
They weren't raised with families like the spirit children seem to have been, so they don't really have that kind of emotional exposure.
cold steppe
even if they did have a soul, would their souls be the same as our souls?
sly kestrel
Most likely they can’t, even if they do feel some sort of self emotion
It won’t be much noticeable since they grew up strange are made different
wind root
Doesn't whales look like these "sky bisons" from avatar
muted mango
I don't think skykids have souls. They are just programmed to do specific things with a specific goal. Imp
brave granite
Skykids can make friends with each other, wouldn't that require emotions
sonic urchin
I’ve always liked the idea of mimicry though. It makes sense, especially with the dead emote. We see a guy actually die, and the closest we can get is a cartoony fainting. Not to mention we are able to copy the look of all the people we meet
muted mango
Skykids can make friends with each other, wouldn't that require emotions
@brave granite
I don't know really. They could be making friends as medium of helping them through various stages of their quest
I’ve always liked the idea of mimicry though. It makes sense, especially with the dead emote. We see a guy actually die, and the closest we can get is a cartoony fainting. Not to mention we are able to copy the look of all the people we meet
@sonic urchin
Yeah that is what I thought too
Sky kids are mere puppets
sonic urchin
Maybe less than puppets and more like actual children though. All the things they do feel like little kids trying to be adults imo
sonic urchin
Yeah. Idk. Either way, sky kids are definitely different than spirits
cold steppe
Skykids are canonically a different species than spirits
muted mango
Yeah
cold steppe
@eternal hearth a coma theory is one that attempts to explain away a fantasy/horror/anything out of the ordinary world by claiming that the whole thing was made up/dreamed up by a person who's in a coma and wasn't really happening. The theory is usually "proven" by having the person wake up and realize it wasn't real
one (non-Sky) example is that the main character in Adventure Time isn't actually on whatever adventure he is in on the show. He's actually in a hospital in a coma
eternal hearth
So kinda like the theory in the game OFF with the batter.... ok thanks
cold steppe
however, I personally think that games/movies/books/TV shows that actually use coma theory as a plot device are kind of lazy (and therefore Sky wouldn't be one) because it basically claims that nothing can ever be out of the "real world" unless it's dreamed up (even if it's a fictional story in a fictional setting)
cold steppe
a lot of fiction doesn't use coma theory, but fans sometimes try to shove it on
eternal hearth
Ah
stark zenith
Is the new travel spirit coming soon a good one?
crimson grove
this discussion is for lore/story of the game, so that topic would be better in #general-sky-discussion as it's mostly personal preference
crimson grove
and this is not a general spoiler discussion, just lore discussion that can contain spoilers ^^
noble sandal
i just realized the crabs in the arc are a pale color compared to the normal ones in wastleland!
Is also cool that they sort of sit and do a "rock camouflage" thing when you're not around it
these mini details are so nice
fringe anvil
I'm not sure if its discussed before but theres 3 different cars of crabs that I have seen!
-Blue (Hidden Forest)
-Black (Golden Wasteland)
-Grey (Hidden Ark)
I think that the blue crabs are the species as they naturally are. Whereas, the black crabs could be a corrupted version that 'lost' their light. They share a lot of similarities to sky kids as seen in eden. Im not sure about the grey crabs though!
noble sandal
ooh!!
that's really cool
the grey crabs might be a cave variation since cave creatures evolve to be pale in general
not to mention most are blind
steep coyote
Am I the only one thinking that Krills are actually machines? What if they were built by the spirits in order to keep people away from Westeland? Since it was an industrial area it was a dangerous place. That would explain why they have one Eye that change color if they spot someone.
Blue light: the sorraundings are secure, no need to initiate attack.
Red light: someone spotted! "Please go away or i'll have to use brute force".
Also the Krills don't attack you directly, they start staring at you and after some seconds that you don't go away they hit you.
Something I noticed is that in the battlefield there are no Krills, and they appear after u activate the Pillar near the gates!
What if they were some kind of defense, also in Eden! Eden looks like an industrialized area way more than Westeland, in fact there are Krills patrolling also there.
And the strong wind can't push them away.
While you don't see birds or Mantas around. Just Krills
cold steppe
there's birds in Eden
steep coyote
Really?? Where?? I swear I didn't notice them -
fringe anvil
the grey crabs might be a cave variation since cave creatures evolve to be pale in general
@noble sandal
Ohh! I never thought of that! I've always felt like the areas we are playing have been out of use for a long time. Maybe those species have had enough time, seperate of manipulation by the spirits, to start working towards that outward phenology.
steep coyote
Maybe after we die
cold steppe
Not a good pic, but the white things on the left
cold steppe
they're heading for a pipe
noble sandal
@steep coyote oo really interesting theory!! the krills do seems mechanical in a way
@fringe anvil ik!! i love the idea that the crabs are slowly evolving over time
noble sandal
it really shows the age of the world of sky
steep coyote
@noble sandal also they do have a mechanical sound, and they relase black dust from their bodies
fringe anvil
@fringe anvil ik!! i love the idea that the crabs are slowly evolving over time
@noble sandal
Thank you! My big theory for the world of sky is that we are playing in zones important to the spirit society at a time far beyond when those spaces were in common use. So, in theory, there would be a lot of species reinhabiting areas that they may have been pushed out of or adapting to live in areas they weren't originally designed for!
steep coyote
Another thing is, their design: Krills were meant to be ferocius, aside from character concept, they choose that design to say something: they were probably released by the spirits during the night in order to avoid intromissions in the fabrics. (Spirits can sleep, as shown by that craftman in Praire).
Then with the Eden storm everything got destroyed, ruined and started to malfuction, and so the Krills were released
I hope my theory looked interesting enough! I wanted to share it since I was thinking about it pretty much lately
noble sandal
@fringe anvil yess!! theories about the environment of sky are one of my favs
they're usually overlooked too
@steep coyote it's a theory definitely out of the box but that's what makes it great 
imagine krill warfare oo
steep coyote
@noble sandal what I don't actually understand is... Why's a Krill in the mountains throu the Ark? As someone said the place where the Ark is it's probably another country, and those mountains were the entrance to the Skyworld. That's why the Krill is here... He's guarding that nobody can enter Sky's territory without permission!
fringe anvil
@steep coyote I have a similar thought! I think that the Krill were used in the process of collecting/harnessing/producing new forms of light with the industrialization of the society. But when there was a war and it reached the factory seen in the wasteland, the krill were repurposed for a last ditch attack.
@steep coyote I'm not sure why the krill is at the arc, but all other shown krill are in areas of importance for industrialization. Maybe he was originally there to guard a trade route?
steep coyote
@fringe anvil that looks so cool! But I still don't understand if the Sky World war was againts darkness only or there were people against the kingdom- even if the second thing is less to happen
noble sandal
ooh
steep coyote
@fringe anvil probably yes?
fringe anvil
@fringe anvil yess!! theories about the environment of sky are one of my favs
@noble sandal
Agreed! I wish they were discussed more! I'm a bio major so I really love thinking about the story using those concepts
noble sandal
it's interesting bc following this theory, after the great disaster in eden most of the sky civilization was obliterated or at the very least fell into ruin
i was one of the ppl who believed the civiliation was complete destroyed
until i remembered the spirit in wasteland! the one who was hiding from the krill
steep coyote
Guys sorry I'll read the rest later! I need to sleep forgive me
steep coyote
Goodnight or Good day to ya'll
noble sandal
gnn!!
fringe anvil
Good night @steep coyote ❤❤
steep coyote
noble sandal
@fringe anvil woaa a bio major :O
i remember mentioning this before but i always wondered why sky flora never included bushes or shurbs or any sort of larger plant life!
since the largest "plant"we see are the mini flowers in prarie
and the trees have
uh
no leaves
even in hidden forest mushrooms are the main source
fringe anvil
@fringe anvil that looks so cool! But I still don't understand if the Sky World war was againts darkness only or there were people against the kingdom- even if the second thing is less to happen
@steep coyote
I think that the spirits eventually were split into 2 different ideals that led to the slirits fighting. In the war zone, there are 2 different shield designs!
@noble sandal I agree! I wish that we saw more plant life or a wider variety of species. There used to be a few different light creatures but they were removed to keep the game more simple and prevent confusion
noble sandal
ahh orz
i saw one of the models for an elder manta ray it was so majestic
also regarding the shield theory!! i really like this one because it's a pretty reasonable one explaining the destruction of eden
the common theory is the forest elder and wasteland elder had differences they couldn't put past each other and eventually escalated into a war i think
fringe anvil
My theory for why there is a lack of diversity in different locations is that we are playing in areas recovering from the spirit society. I dont think every area was as bad as the wasteland is but I think the spirits had a huge impact on what may have used to live in each area. What we are seeing are the more tolerant plants and creatures that could either avoid reprocussions or survive despite everything.
noble sandal
ooh yess!!
now that i think about it the acid rain in forest might have something to do with the plant life
fringe anvil
the common theory is the forest elder and wasteland elder had differences they couldn't put past each other and eventually escalated into a war i think
@noble sandal
OOOOHHH!! I never knew that bit of theory. I mean, it makes sense! Both have a light factory and produce in 2 different ways.
noble sandal
yeah!!
in the docs it was written the war might have been caused by different ideologies, but i'm of the belief that it was caused bc both forest and wasteland elders have similar jobs of factories and technology production, which might have caused a lot of conflict
since we can see in the wasteland the broken ship with the krill flying over it
it was used to transport materials judging from the golden caskets in the back of it where a winged light is
fringe anvil
The forest elder mostly focused on less invasive production means. Hence, why the forest has mostly recovered and still supports a large population of light species. Whereas the valley produced in more harmful ways. Hence the pollution, desertification, lack of bio-diversity and existence of krill.
noble sandal
^^yes i like that theory!
in the forest production place we can see the windows where mantas are free let in and beyond that where the door opens there's a thriving place with mantas, birds, and grass
but the wasteland seems to be the complete opposite
literally the krill in the production area in wasteland eats the poor manta
(although that could have been from after the destruction of eden)
fringe anvil
Another theory that I me and my bf have is that the wasteland production center harnessed light from light creatures. This energy went to power more unsustainable areas (think the height of the society like the valley of triumph) that required a lot of power to maintain.
This process would have created poor/underprivileged areas and contrastly rich/privileged areas. This contrast could have added a social aspect to the war in addition to the economic aspects
@noble sandal I am really interested in the forest temple because of that release.
If you notice, those mantas don't glow or charge you when interacting with them!
noble sandal
yes!!
actually i was going to ask about that
the mantas in the forest temple even have some of the rock crusts like wasteland for some reason
fringe anvil
My thoughts is that perhaps, the forest had the ability to harness light from living creatures. So the wasteland may have done it without concern for the creatures used (check the boneyard out back)
fringe anvil
:D
noble sandal
my personal theory is that the forest elder used a more ethical way of harvesting light, thus the still-alive mantas. but the wasteland elder was also in the same "industry" and instead of watching out for the well-being of the light creatures, he ended up killing a lot in order to get the same power. in fact, because of this the wasteland production might have had much more light production than forest at the expense of the lives of light creatures
that might be why forest and wasteland elders started arguing
since the forest elder is unhappy with the unethical way of harvesting light while wasteland cares more about the amount of production rather than the environment
and it's shown through the environment even years after they were gone too!!
fringe anvil
Honestly, that's part of the reason I think krill were used as part of the production process. My personal favorite theory is that krill were used to hunt whales/large creatures but they could have also been used for protection or something else. It explains why they are all over industrialized areas, especially around production zones. But after their misuse in the war, either (of they are machines) their programming could not be fixed (causing them to be light-seeking killers) or they were corrupted (explaining their appearance similar to light-less children and light-seeking behaviors.)
@noble sandal
noble sandal
^^it's a good piece in this theory too!
they could be constantly seeking out light due to their corrupted state after the disaster
i think the krill might've looked differently too, since they took on a dark appearance in the game
fringe anvil
they could be constantly seeking out light due to their corrupted state after the disaster
@noble sandal
Yes! If you note, krill don't care about corrupted crabs. They both share a similar coloration and they have the lightless Pixelation that is seen in children in eden. I personally think that they have both lost their light, which caused their appearance to be dark and the krill to attack light creatures
Similarly to how kids seek out other kids/light sources to be relit, maybe the krill are killing other light creatures in attempt to relight themselves?
Which could explain why the wasteland hasn't recovered but the forest, prarie and forgotten ark were able to!
noble sandal
ahh that's true
like they go after light to try and wash away the corrupted darkness
it's also possible that the krill in wasteland haven't moved on to other "biomes" in sky because they're programmed or have an innate system to stay in wasteland where they were stationed
fringe anvil
@noble sandal I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT! its such a great idea!!
fringe anvil
Yess! With the theory that they are machiens, their functional code may have been permanently altered but not their other coding such as range and patrol function
noble sandal
i was thinking of the hiding spirit in wasteland where she's hiding from a krill, which probably shows that some spirits survived the initial eden blow
don't know how she got stuck in a krill infested place though
poor her
fringe anvil
Yes! The hiding spirit could have been a worker? Or maybe they just lived in the area?
fringe anvil
But, theoretically, some spirits could have survived and lingered. Which would explain the hidden ark spirits story!
(Roan is my bf, he is teasing)
noble sandal
OKAY i was scared for a second 
LMAO
vast jasper
😂
fringe anvil
I personally think that us kids were sent after the last spirits that survived died
vast jasper
I was thinking that the people got into technology more and more and started experimenting with creating artificial life, I personally think those mantas that were realeased aren't even biotic
noble sandal
ooo the concept that the hidden arc spirits were looking for a new place as a replacement for eden is really cool!! i never thought of it like that
fringe anvil
This would have given a big time gap and a more full story (that hopefully we learn a lot more about)
noble sandal
@vast jasper yeah!! spirits might have been modeling some of their technology after the oceanic life theme sky has going on
vast jasper
that lead me to think that maybe these mantas were precursors to other forms of artificial intelligence mimicking life, which later turned into them developing the krill, and then repurposing them to be guard dogs or machines used to hunt down other creatures
noble sandal
like krill is just basically a giant shrimp
vast jasper
never say that again...
noble sandal
hehe
vast jasper
disrespect shrimp like that one more time so help me I will cry
vast jasper
you are right though
fringe anvil
!krill @vast jasper
fringe anvil
Do you know the current theories around eden?
I'm haven't looked into it a lot!
I've been focusing on the societal and biological aspects between the isle and wasteland
noble sandal
i don't know a ton either lmaoo
yeah same!
eden is a big can of worms that i have no idea what to do about
all i know is that eden seems to be the centerpiece of the kingdom of sky
vast jasper
@noble sandal you know that bird that looks dead in front of the citadel in valley?
fringe anvil
Haha im still not fully fleshed out on the purpose of rebirth to understand the importance of the area
I feel that tok @noble sandal
vast jasper
ok so some people have said it looks like a sculpture
noble sandal
BRO i need a picture
vast jasper
but to me it... is a very disturbing sculpture if it is
vast jasper
so next time you go to valley to get to the second race, right when you finish coming up the steps
vast jasper
@noble sandal when you see it you are gonna be like... how did I not see that before
noble sandal
i'm excitedd
sly kestrel
The old beta quest where u fly around the citadel collecting lights
desert sun
i didnt know that was what the quest was but yes thank you
sly kestrel
It’s jus....a memory
vast jasper
I cry
noble sandal
sobs
fringe anvil
Its a creepy ice sculpture!
vast jasper
I was hoping for an ancient murder birb aztec ritual
fringe anvil
I was right @vast jasper
vast jasper
they said its a memory
fringe anvil
:p
vast jasper
they didn't say it was a sculpture yet
@sly kestrel please don't let her be right, I won't survive
noble sandal
LMAO
sly kestrel
No I meant it’s a memory from the very old sky light awaits game
noble sandal
vast jasper
@sly kestrel can I flirt with you instead?
noble sandal
unacceptable in publicooOOHH
sly kestrel
vast jasper
beta is interesting to me now... imagine how many questions could be answered
drifting heart
Guys guys guys I just had an interesting thought.
sly kestrel
Ehhh not many questions can be answered at all
vast jasper
😭
fringe anvil
@vast jasper !! 
sly kestrel
Pre release beta isn’t relative to the current story anymore
vague plover
What's that talla?
vast jasper
do you know where we can find cannon lore, or lore that the devs have confirmed?
noble sandal
psst chack pins
drifting heart
Hear me out but..
noble sandal
sly kestrel
In the pins, but heyyyy
We have good theories too 🥺
vague plover
Mhm?
vast jasper
I love hearing theories even if they aren't cannon, but I am also curious if any have been confirmed as well 😉
sly kestrel
The sticks they hold are more of a sporting game thing, I doubt it’s a weapon
vast jasper
infact I'm part of the annoying people that likes the fan ideas more than cannon usually
drifting heart
True
plush moon
does anyone have a theory about the hidden forest and why the trees in front of the temple are damaged
sly kestrel
...would u like to hear mine 😳
drifting heart
But Wasteland Elder probably taught 'em how to use items like that.
vague plover
Yes jay and no I dont lofti!
drifting heart
You see in his cutscene he's a clear master of those items.
noble sandal
@sly kestrel ENLIGHTEN US (please)
sly kestrel
Oh wow...4 ppl that’s a lot of dm’ing
noble sandal
O
drifting heart
Also Lofti I do have a theory on the trees.
vast jasper
create a group dm @sly kestrel
drifting heart
Basically, a whale crashed into them.
vast jasper
otherwise you can post it here I'm sure
drifting heart
Considering you find its corpse nearby.
sly kestrel
Well some of them are caused by the whale crashing
fringe anvil
does anyone have a theory about the hidden forest and why the trees in front of the temple are damaged
@plush moon
My theory is that the forest was being harnessed for the production of light as an energy source. As part of that the trees were being cut down and utilized
vast jasper
whales are jerks, always crashing parties
plush moon
but I believe that the twin's craft is their own such - their constellation (the sticks). i believe that each elder has their own gift to their civilization to explain why the constellation existed before the civilization came to be
drifting heart
That would seem highly unlikely Reia.
summer patrol
doesn’t a spirit fell a tree in one of the memories or am i mistaken? 😒
drifting heart
Those threes are MASSIVE
vast jasper
they really like hockey, my hypothesis is they are canadian...
sly kestrel
HEY WHAT IF SLMEONE SHOT THE WHALE CAUSING IT TO FALL
WHOS THE JERK THEN HUH?
summer patrol
: S **
vast jasper
beavers...
fringe anvil
doesn’t a spirit fell a tree in one of the memories or am i mistaken? 😒
@summer patrol
There is a memory where spirits fell a tree
drifting heart
They have jagged ends, as if something pushed them down.
sly kestrel
Ok some trees are cut and some trees are broken by the whale
Don’t get em mixed up
noble sandal
^^^^
sonic urchin
Yesss mantas are actually beavers
vague plover
RIP whale😔
vast jasper
mantas are beavers... this is cannon
drifting heart
But that begs the question...
noble sandal
mantas are beavers
drifting heart
What killed the whale?
summer patrol
maybe harvest was stopped shortly after the whale died?
noble sandal
i will not accept any other explanantion
vague plover
Mantas are beavers?
sly kestrel
Well I used to have a theory that the stress spirit accidental shot the whale; she’s seen with a bow and arrow
🏹
summer patrol
or maybe it was being hunted :((
vague plover
:((
summer patrol
we don’t see a lot of whales, there’s maybe like?? 3??
sonic urchin
It’d be pretty hard with a bow, but I could see it
noble sandal
why can't we have the bow and arrow :(
plush moon
@plush moon
My theory is that the forest was being harnessed for the production of light as an energy source. As part of that the trees were being cut down and utilized
@fringe anvil it makes for the tree stumps not for trees whose top parts (for above the ground) are severed
noble sandal
since the life in sky are all marine-based animals, it's possible that once they are "beached" on land they'll die like how whales in our world die when they get pushed by the tide?
sly kestrel
There’s 1.....it jus moves in different places
drifting heart
The one in the clouds and the one at the end of the game is the same one.
summer patrol
one in the wasteland, one in the forest and one in ||orbit||
sly kestrel
Yea it moves...
drifting heart
The one in the cloud is the one in orbit.
summer patrol
there’s a live one in the forest too
sly kestrel
Doesn’t mean there’s 3 different ones
drifting heart
The only other whale is the corpse in the forest.
sly kestrel
And possibly....the graveyard but nothing confirmed yet
summer patrol
aw, it must b so lonely lol
vague plover
I wonder why there isnt many whales anymore? Is it because they were an easy target for alot of the stuff going on? :(
drifting heart
I always called it the bone zone.
vast jasper
@noble sandal isn't their birds in sky, in the forest
it's not all marine based right?
vague plover
Bone zone is a superior name
sly kestrel
Dead creature feature
summer patrol
they’re big yeah and most likely pretty strong since it manages to smash through a building ||orbit||
sly kestrel
U don’t gotta spoiler tag in this chat
summer patrol
ohh, my bad sorry
noble sandal
eden rights yall
sly kestrel
🤜
vague plover
Eden rights!
noble sandal
eden
drifting heart
Actually speaking of Eden
noble sandal
NO
drifting heart
You know what's weird about Eden?
vague plover
What?
sonic urchin
A lot of things
summer patrol
what do you guys mean by graveyard btw?? Is there one coming or smthing?
sly kestrel
It’s dark
drifting heart
It.. looks way to modern compared to the other areas.
sly kestrel
...oh no
noble sandal
it has rocks
sonic urchin
@summer patrol graveyard is an area in wasteland
drifting heart
Like.
sly kestrel
U haven’t seen the graveyard yet have u....@summer patrol
drifting heart
There's steel girders
vague plover
Oh no...
summer patrol
No;; aw man;;
sly kestrel
Spoiler spoiler I guess
But yea.....it’s in wasteland
If u see a black thingy with a red eye, u should try and ride it, it’s quite fun
vague plover
We wish u much luck on that journey
summer patrol
ill, uh, go look that up now
vast jasper
I wish we could relive spirits stories and videos if we wanted to, there is some I forgot to be honest because I wasn't thinking that deep into the lore
sly kestrel
Pinssssss 👉🏼
drifting heart
You know what's weird thoough.
When you open that gate in the bone yard.
3 Krills come out instantly
sonic urchin
Much speed
noble sandal
they smell you
drifting heart
It's like, what, did they know we were gonna do this?
sly kestrel
Ahhh that’s the battlefield not the bone yard
drifting heart
Oh.
Ok so in the battlefield when you open that gate.
3 Krill emerge and immediately make a b-line for your location.
Were they just.. waiting for something to happen?
And if they were
How smart are krill then?
sly kestrel
My theory is that since the sky kingdom is incredibly old and skykids came years and years after the extinction, I think the kills were resting underground, jus like how one emerges right when u enter the first krill area
And the gate awakened them
drifting heart
So it's less they were waiting and more.
sonic urchin
It’s pretty loud
drifting heart
The sound of the gate moving after so long of silence woke them up?
sonic urchin
Could be. Not much else there to make noise
drifting heart
And they were like ALRIGHT WHO PRESSED THE ALARM?
summer patrol
I didn’t realise THAT was the graveyard and the things I’ve been HIDING IN were BONES
sly kestrel
Or the smell of fresh skykid 😋
vague plover
Its like we threw off the emperors grove
summer patrol
sonic urchin
Dirt. And light
drifting heart
I don't want to lick my phone screen
noble sandal
vanilla ice cream
sonic urchin
Walnuts
summer patrol
like stars
noble sandal
WALNUT LMAOO
drifting heart
Maybe they taste like photons.
sonic urchin
What do photons taste like though?
noble sandal
photons
sly kestrel
....should I be concerned why temj knows what a star tastes like 😳
sonic urchin
Touché
vague plover
Photons
noble sandal
bc temji is a star
sly kestrel
We should prolly get back on topic
drifting heart
Ye
vague plover
Indeed
summer patrol
aw yea baby
sonic urchin
This is a very serious sky discussion. If we find what they taste like we know what they are made of
summer patrol
wasteland dad 
drifting heart
Basically, he sorta had a "Nakai the Wanderer" moment in the fight.
Nakai the Wanderer being a famous Kroxxigor, famous for holding off four scores of daemons before reinforcements arrived.
From how we see Wasteland Dad's cutscene.
summer patrol
but they still lost the fight, didn’t they? :((
summer patrol
o i meant the spirits
drifting heart
In fact Nakai is so terrifying, that daemons fear him.
Oh.
Yeah that's what I suppose.
Or at least it was a "short" victory.
From how I see it.
summer patrol
do we know where krill come from or do they just.. be?
sly kestrel
We dunno anything confirmed but we got theories
drifting heart
Wasteland dad is holding off countless forces on his own, to protect the vault of knowledge. Bam bam boom stab slam he's kicking enemy butt left and right. He eventually wins, but he suffered a lot of wounds.. eventually falling after he single-handedly beat the attacking force 'cause of them.
Basically he was a miniature doomslayer, but he didn't have the insaneness of the Slayer.
summer patrol
I’d like to think they came from Eden, but then again, idk anything abt Eden
drifting heart
A big theory is that they were once light creatures that got corrupted.
Or they are spawn of the darkness itself.
drifting heart
According to theories yes.
sonic urchin
Yeah. A big ol storm above it
drifting heart
It's either
A. the darkness' source
B. Ground zero from where the darkness came into.
summer patrol
so maybe krill were light creatures attempting to do as we do: free corrupted things and breach eden
summer patrol
only they failed?
sly kestrel
Darkness was always a natural part of the world and it existed long before eden was built
Eden is jus a place that is filled and corrupted with darkness
sly kestrel
Ok basically, eden didn’t originate darkness, it jus has a large amount of it
summer patrol
Man, all that work for it do b destroyed then lol
drifting heart
Ye
sly kestrel
“If only they had listened”
desert sun
is it safe to assume that the abundance of clouds in sky is because of what happened in eden?
the intro implies it
i just have a hard time understanding why.. or how
split scarab
desert sun
queen sage
Hi! Do u guys happen to know places where paintings or such appear once candles are lighted? I'm only familiar with two areas.
desert sun
i believe those are the only two places 🤔
queen sage
Oh, I thought there is one for every realm
exotic shuttle
there's murals like that in the isle temple
that appear when you light candles that is
marsh isle
I don't have enough candles to buy the mask 
I really want it aswell
And i don't think i have enough time to gather candles
sonic urchin
@marsh isle you might. It’ll be around for a few days, so if you get all the candles each day you should be able to buy all of it
blazing terrace
Is there any lore explanation for why the skykids eyes turn black with the dance emote?
elder iron
i noticed there are swords ⚔️ (idk if the twins were holding swords but to me they looked like paddles. also look like paddles in the constellation) so was this weapon storage?
desert sun
Is there any lore explanation for why the skykids eyes turn black with the dance emote?
@blazing terrace nah, its most likely a bug
@elder iron thats what i thought!
elder iron
wow really
desert sun
but at the same time, the place is far too small and cramped to have place as a storage imo
still, thats the only explanation we have for that place
elder iron
it could maybe be like a mini storage like back ups
and it’s some storage area that’s holding weapons so i’m still going to call it weapon storage lol
bold gull
i think its one of the diamonds built from light
elder iron
perhaps it’s not glass... maybe it’s a different material. there are other transparent things besides glass. but it is a question why it would be transparent
bold gull
like the red crystals in eden but withought the dark crystals
i think its transparent because it doesnt make its own source of light it needs to be powered with candles
elder iron
different types of diamonds maybe? kind of like there are different types of batteries?
bold gull
well it doesnt hold power it just opens with power
different types of diamonds maybe? kind of like there are different types of batteries?
@elder iron ya i was thinking that the red diamonds are like batteries while the see trhough ones are like plug in lamps
elder iron
well it does hold power for a bit. the doors don’t close till you leave
bold gull
ya they function the same way
elder iron
red diamonds?
bold gull
well the mechanism for a door opening would keep it closed, movement needs energy so it would need energy to close back, not stay open
elder iron
lol
elder iron
well they are not the same
elder iron
the red crystals do not function in a way that provides power. it takes away the light and keeps it
bold gull
im assuming theyre similar
i know but t=their original purpose
or theorized original purpose
the eye of eden was built as a power source but it went wrong (all theory)
i dont remember whats canon or whats not though
ya some people theorize it may have been where people originally llived
and wastleand is the dump
or maybe just destroyed after the eye of eden broke and the storm
elder iron
i remember that the red crystals (in theory) were surrounding the giant eden diamond so if there was a leak of power the red diamonds would absorb the power like a sponge that hasn’t been squished lol
elder iron
well it does some
because imagine if those red crystals weren’t there
damage would expand
bold gull
so maybe the eye of eden was the same type of diamond but they wanted to power it with the bird
elder iron
i think the bird is a being that can’t be reached unless you die
bold gull
true, some people think that the red crystals may have also been what caused the explosion
the bird isnt the light you go to when you die
elder iron
i know
elder iron
lol i doubt that
bold gull
or the red crystals were big enough to suck it out
elder iron
yeah
bold gull
also at the end the light you go up from the eye of eden goes up there so it is possible they were taking energy from the megabird
elder iron
i think the mega bird is just a being that can not be reached unless you die yet when you die you can not interact with the bird. no one can be around it. only the bird can come around you
bold gull
well like the sun it may be a limitless (technically not but lots of energy) power source
elder iron
yeah
bold gull
like the sun wont run out of energy until trillions of lifetimes away
im assuming the light beam when you hug yourself is the same one
could be wrong though
idk where else it would be from
elder iron
oh speaking of the light beam..... is where you hug the boy inside the eden diamond?
all takes place inside eden diamond?
bold gull
i think it might be
because the whole goal of the game has kinda been to get there
well the assumed goal
whenever you call the icon appears there
it looks pretty til you actually get there lok
ya
elder iron
soo does that mean they try to contain the life force inside the giant diamond? because when you go through the beam of light you break out of the once living statues and come alive
bold gull
i think the sky children were built maybe
elder iron
i don’t think they were built
bold gull
and given life by the energy that you see at the end
oh
lol
hey have little lights
and survive as a blue orb near the end
i assume its their soul
elder iron
i think they are like normal children... born lol.... but i think only us can be reborn
bold gull
ya like the light is our soul and the dark is our body?
ya the elders became spirits
instead of being reborn
elder iron
i don’t think they are spirits because they do not have the see through body
bold gull
we also have masks that have light, we seem like a shell around inner light
the elders are blue too?
like in the cutscenes
maybe they arent called elders
elder iron
yes but they do not have the spirit looks
bold gull
just the spirits
elder iron
not see though
elder iron
idk
elder iron
i personally don’t think they are dead but maybe moved on to a different world because i hear they are not in our world anymore
bold gull
Hello. Just want to ask if anyone else noticed an open pipe in Eden (4 Krill Area) where light creatures (birds) are being sucked into. I'm just wondering if that is how the red crystal is being fed with energy.
@hushed steeple i didnt notice do you have a screen shot?
elder iron
@hushed steeple could you maybe put a picture????
bold gull
i think thats another reason our bodies might be built, the elders when they "died" (or whatever happened) went somewhere else while we recycle bodies, in the end when were reborn we come down to home as a light just like when we die
elder iron
i don’t think they are getting sucked into the diamond because i see no pipe or other source that would make them exit into the diamond
bold gull
ya they were probably using creatures of light as a light source
maybe not the diamond but
or its a factory for those pots filled with the butterflies
elder iron
there are definitely birds in orbit
bold gull
i think most of the light you fly with is the birds/butterflies at the end
lol
it does seem the birds are just light used as flying fuel anyway
ya i think in general they were a fuel source and probably used for the red crystal
elder iron
perhaps it is a place where they turn the birds light into the power they need and somehow put that in the diamond before it causes chaos
oh just now noticed what @bold gull said
bold gull
ya the pots are strategically placed in places you need to fly up
elder iron
lol sorry
bold gull
its fine
also when you light all the candles in daylight prairie the birds appear and the golden rods may be like an attractor of light or something and turn on when you light the candles
actually the golden rod are on most buildings so probably not
probably
dumb elders
elder iron
well about the red crystals... i don’t think they can hold an infinite amount of power but they can hold a lot of it. so does this mean if a red crystal has to much absorbed power will it burst like the diamond in eden?
elder iron
lol perhaps
hm now that i think about it maybe there is a way to take back what power the red crystals took away. like if someone put a vacuum up to the crystals to take back what was in there. because i doubt people would like to waste power
yes
lol
autocorrect
vacuum what is in a different vacuum
red crystals don’t unleash the power they collected. like a selfish child that won’t share toys
lol
i like comparing
elder iron
there’s a difference between the eden diamond and red crystals
bold gull
maybe its dark plus lighy
or maybe its fission and the divide is what creates dark in light
from other wise pure creatures
quantum entaglmemnt
jk jk
elder iron
actually i see the rocks flying as something happening behind the eden diamond
elder iron
nothing comes out of the diamond besides the light which is the power it contained
bold gull
but maybe
elder iron
yeah
bold gull
fusion creates much more enrgy so maybe it was meant to be fission but failed fusing light and dark creating an energy sucking rock boi
no the red rocks lol
i just said it weird
and maybe the crabs
elder iron
maybe when the diamond corrupted the power it made caused a storm and that storm caused the winds and the winds caused the rocks flying. and the pattern of the rocks flying (left to right) is just game mechanic
bold gull
sometimes games and movies randomly do science stuff to make plausible explainations for things so it could be
elder iron
i guess saying game mechanic is correct term? trying to say it was ment to be left to right
elder iron
yeah
bold gull
discord always says im idle lol
elder iron
and the rocks flying... when they hit ground they break into red. so maybe the rocks are just red crystals that have got the energy they needed and have stopped absorbing
bold gull
any theory is technically just as right as any other until the game confirms it
or devs
maybe at the end when rocks are bulging out fo us its just our energy being sucked out and forming that structure with our body
the red crystals are probably mined from there or something
they had to come from somewhere
elder iron
so was eden like the FIRST village ever? was it built while other places (like prairie, forest, etc)? or were the main lands first then eden?
bold gull
maybe its an underground suplly of them and they just grew out
ya its still in eden
i assume they travelled to eden maybe and had people settle down on the way but eden became the ultimate like kingdom maybe
like city and suburban to urban areas
theres one pinned
elder iron
yup
elder iron
i think eden and the main lands were all built at the same time but eden just had more focused
bold gull
Eden is like the royal capital in Sky
@hushed steeple with all the power hungry elders
elder iron
i say king
bold gull
ya like previous settlements became cities once everyone settked down
elder iron
yeah that’s what we mean lol
bold gull
Together, the fallen stars made a new home in the clouds.
If only they had listened...
listened to who lol
elder iron
i think fallen stars are the elders
bold gull
maybe
megabird maybe to both\
ya valleys like not evil eden with cool technology
lol what if people already wrote stuff on what were talking about 💀
im too lazy to read all the stuff
Here are the ideas and theories presented in the lore channel
THESE ARE NOT CANON
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24
I will try my best to keep up with you guys.
does this get updated
oh dang
we should have a open doc we can put stuff in but cant delete others stuff
i dont think thats possible tho
or maybe we can add comments and someone puts them in so others cant delete it
elder iron
oh yeah about valley and their races.... a while ago i mentioned there are 2 teams in the races. red and blue team (my guess because the 2 doors have 2 different color banners which are red and blue) but in both races with the giant flags in the sides of the bleachers near the 2 doors are different colors. one race has blue flags and one race has red flags. could this mean one race only cheered on the red team and one cheered on blue team?
bold gull
should i make one
modest sequoia
The ability for one person to keep up with this channel was deemed a fools errand once Droid happened
elder iron
i’m behind in convo lol
bold gull
i think someone who can pin should make a doc
but thats also a lot of work putting all the comments in
The ability for one person to keep up with this channel was deemed a fools errand once Droid happened
@modest sequoia whats droid
elder iron
i’m not talking about is being the red and blue team
i mean the people who once lived there
elder iron
oh soo ik this is old but i really like talking about it and hearing new thoughts..... about forgotten ark lol
modest sequoia
Do you mean the quasi-class division thing between the upper and lower race areas?
elder iron
i don’t think it is upper and lower class races
bold gull
i had to search skull but dead didnt work💀
elder iron
maybe it’s like an actual game. there home and there’s guest
modest sequoia
That's something fun, the buildings in the flying race and start of the sliding race have a more "regal" design
elder iron
if red is valleys color blue would be the guest