lore-discussion-spoilers

[plush moon]

XD

Gonna drop us an essay

[sly kestrel]

Why

Jus why

Would I drop an essay

[wide root]

Because....

[sly kestrel]

About my questions

[wide root]

If you drop it on someone...

[sly kestrel]

I drop an essay for theories and stuff I found or speculated like I did earlier about the flesh and bone thingy
But questions itself....eh

No

[plush moon]

What breakthru were u talking about

[sly kestrel]

Scroll up

[wide root]

Another quiz for the dev...

That’s the essay

[plush moon]

Ik but u said a lot of things

[undone steppe]

I promised my fiance I wouldn't get deep enough into sky to write Essays

[plush moon]

Which one is it

[sly kestrel]

Read it all

Well technically it’s not an essay

It’s jus

A lot of messages

[plush moon]

All creatures seem to be made of this pure light or pure darkness, they seem to be made of light or their body IS light. They can recharge as well as take light away. But whales....have a more physical body. Their body seems to be one made of flesh and bone. No dark force, no light force
Simply....flesh and bone
@sly kestrel this?

The light and dark seem to have no bones, krill don’t have bones, mantas don’t have bones, butterflies seem to be made of light and butterflies are also made of light....with no bones or natural flesh
So I’ve come to another conclusion
Creatures with flesh and bone are the “neutral” creatures while light and dark creatures have no bones or flesh
@sly kestrel or this

[undone steppe]

TLDR Jay's Essay:
There are light dark and neutral creatures, Dark creatures feed off things. Light things tend to be eaten and/or turned into usable energy. Neutral creature's remains also get eaten by dark creatures.

[wide root]

Krills seeeeeeeems like an invertebreae

Crunchy from the outside...

[sly kestrel]

Ok I didn’t say the last part but I do agree on the 3 types of creatures

[undone steppe]

Fixed

[sly kestrel]

Neutral/one of flesh and bone
Dark
And light

[grim python]

Which creatures are neutral?

[sly kestrel]

Ash said there was some lore about the whales she hasn’t see us discover yet
Gosh I wish I’ll find that

[wide root]

Which creatures are neutral?
@grim python the fishes apparently

[sly kestrel]

Well according to my theories and speculations
It’s the creatures with flesh and bone

The whales for example

[desert sun]

i want to find it too

[wide root]

Ash said there was some lore about the whales she hasn’t see us discover yet
Gosh I wish I’ll find that
@sly kestrel maybe in the next ark spell whateever stuff

[undone steppe]

Maybe Whales are the ones who caused the wasteland

[sly kestrel]

😐

Well that’s different

[wide root]

XD

[undone steppe]

like giant pearl harbor hindenburgs.

[grim python]

Hmm

Whales have never seemed aggressive to me

[desert sun]

someone said fishes earlier and that is a good point, the only animals based off fish are the koi and whale, neither seem to give you light

[undone steppe]

^

[desert sun]

whales aren't aggressive they just vibing

[sly kestrel]

They are what I call the neutral creatures

[undone steppe]

The Whale warlord theory has been scraped, thank you for tuning in.

[desert sun]

changing my name to whale apologist

[wide root]

someone said fishes earlier and that is a good point, the only animals based off fish are the koi and whale, neither seem to give you light
@desert sun the littles red fishes at the pond on the home and ark!!!!

[grim python]

Yeah if you go into the whale too fast in orbit it can knock some wedges off of you

[sly kestrel]

So far we have seen only some neutral creatures
The koi, the whale, and the creatures in the graveyard

[grim python]

So def not a light source

[desert sun]

yes exactly, i never considered it a creature of light exactly

[undone steppe]

So are crabs Neutral?

[sly kestrel]

Nope they are dark

[desert sun]

crabs are dark

[grim python]

Crabs are dark

[wide root]

Ummm

[desert sun]

if they arent i will lose it

[grim python]

[plush moon]

Why are whales neutral if they can evolve like us

[sly kestrel]

Protest

[plush moon]

I thought it was the later stage after manta?

[desert sun]

they are definitely different species

imo

[sly kestrel]

They are neutral bc they are made of flesh and bone AND they aren’t light or dark creatures

[upper condor]

Crabs are not only dark but also delicious

[grim python]

I wonder if crabs just taste like real crabs

[wide root]

Only 1 way to find out

[grim python]

I’m allergic to all shellfish-

[undone steppe]

Crabs are neutral unless you destroy their habitat. Then they hurl themselves at you like highspeed eden rocks

[desert sun]

well so are krill, by that info

[plush moon]

They are neutral bc they are made of flesh and bone AND they aren’t light or dark creatures
@sly kestrel how would u explain them ascending then?

Along with the other light creatures

[wide root]

I’m allergic to all shellfish-
@grim python should i take it somewhat personnal?

[grim python]

I mean that means I can’t eat you

So I couldn’t really see that as a threat

[wide root]

XD

[desert sun]

i used to think that whales werent "neither" dark nor light, but "both" dark and light, which would explain how they ascend to eden, but that would bring up a whole different set if questions

questions

[wide root]

Krills and krabs are both invertabreas

And dark

[sly kestrel]

Well my theory is that light and neutral can ascend
I didn’t call em specifically light creatures bc they are made of flesh and bone and they can’t recharge us. Light creatures also glow and automatically give a light creature vibe
Whales....are jus neutral

[wide root]

Whales are whales!

[desert sun]

^^

[grim python]

But on the topic of crabs again, some people have theorized that after the ark people started taking their land, the crabs imitated the krill and started attacking things

Probably explains why their eyes turn red like krills

[sly kestrel]

To me
Light creatures are defined by their appearance and by their essence of light
Not by their ability to ascend

Did u get that lofi

[grim python]

This is something I just thought of

[wide root]

Probably explains why their eyes turn red like krills
@grim python well it’s a darwinism theory that makes sense

[grim python]

I wonder what would happen if some random krill went into the big beam of light

[wide root]

He’ll get krilled

[sly kestrel]

Tried it
Doesn’t work

[grim python]

:o

Not in the game

Just in theory

[desert sun]

what if dark creatures can enter orbit they just choose not to

[wide root]

How you do that?

[grim python]

Imagine going through orbit and then you get krilled and fall back to eden

[sly kestrel]

Dae

I jus wanna say

I love ur pfp

[desert sun]

thanks, i thought about changing it again but its grown on me

[grim python]

jöhn arbuckle

[sly kestrel]

I can jus hear john’s voice from the pic

[grim python]

New theory: Garfield is the source of the giant light beam

[desert sun]

Garfield is the crabs true identity??????

[grim python]

That’s a lot of Garfields

[wide root]

So we are eating... cats?

[sly kestrel]

..

[grim python]

[sly kestrel]

Skykids don’t even eat crab

Well

THEY DONT EVEN EAT

[grim python]

s a y s w h o

[wide root]

I tough they had no mouth!

[desert sun]

• that is a different batch of cookies for another glass of milk

[sly kestrel]

They don’t have a natural body like the rest of the ppl

[wide root]

It’s noticeable

[desert sun]

also, general sky chat would like to disagree. seriously every topic somehow loops back around to food

[grim python]

skykids eat the pizza from office

[wide root]

No mouth and can still makes sounds with horns

[plush moon]

Did u get that lofi
@sly kestrel I just found it strange how the whale goes up to the Light imo it may hint that the whale goes thru the same light evolution too

[desert sun]

omg that reminded me abt the skykid body

[sly kestrel]

Ight I’m out

[grim python]

[sly kestrel]

Illusion time, I was never here

[grim python]

woah

[wide root]

So you are a lie?

[plush moon]

Then the fact that he is a liar is a lie

[sly kestrel]

Ight I’m back

I will always be a professional liar

Jus not in this chat

[desert sun]

yo, jay

[plush moon]

He will be a novice one

[desert sun]

can you send the image of those symbols you found? with the 4 diamonds or whatever

the exact same symbol in eden and valley

[sly kestrel]

I didn’t find them, I jus saw someone screenshot them and screenshotted their screenshot

[desert sun]

im making a doc for all similar symbols

well screenshot that screenshot screenshot

[wide root]

Then trying to understand their meanings?

[sly kestrel]

Oh this too

[desert sun]

okay i think the doc is ready

[undone steppe]

WHERE"S THAT EDEN PHOTO?!?

[desert sun]

do i put it here? i made it so anyone can add on to it

[undone steppe]

I would like to add to it

[desert sun]

WHERE"S THAT EDEN PHOTO?!?
@undone steppe when you first enter eden, turn around and youll be able to spot it

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10BG_PdhCJeIQnToxipkPQb_6bFQqrYdYmnUyHpyG1WY/edit

ive categorized different symbols

this ofc isnt all of them which is why im making it

editable

[undone steppe]

You sir are a saint,

Have my children

[desert sun]

i will politely decline i am not good with children

[undone steppe]

Please, they are free I really don't need them.

Besides family matters

Vinde's Vault Vump

[narrow siren]

Your kid has died and you don’t even bury him?!

[undone steppe]

Noticed this manta on a vault run mourning the loss of another. But if we take into consideration Jay's and loftis thought on manta cycles we can see that there are infact big mantas.

And they do infact have bones

[sly kestrel]

Never said anything about manta cycles
I believe ur referring to lofi

Also those bones are different from the spirit manta

Wayyy way different

[undone steppe]

Well far but consider that

We don't see a multifined manta in game

Only a ghost manta

One thing looks very similar outside of the Memory Vault

[sly kestrel]

Hage had that same theory

[undone steppe]

Disproven?

[sly kestrel]

Also
What we see in the elevator portion of vault is more of a.....spiritual/symbolic journey. And it was supposed to be very dream like and it was even hinted that maybe the whole vault ascent was jus a dream or memory

[undone steppe]

But we can interpret from memory

[sly kestrel]

They actually represented the levels as well
The 3rd floor has trees and these supposed to represent forest

[undone steppe]

Even if our little light kid meditates on a pedestal the whole way up

The way up...

What if it's just an astral projection.

Maybe I'm taking this too seriously

The vault symbol isn't on any of the constellation s at the top

[sly kestrel]

Because

Ur in vault....

[undone steppe]

Fair...

The power diamond fell out of the ceiling at the summit

[sly kestrel]

It’s not from the ceiling but it is safe to say that it’s the elevator platform
The diamond is no longer in use

[undone steppe]

You check the constellation s here (somehow??)

[sly kestrel]

It’s an update

Now u can check ur progress on the vault constellation

[undone steppe]

Nice I guess

Why is there a golden pot at the bottom???

[sly kestrel]

It was an old beta quest where u would have to find that gold pot

[undone steppe]

Found it :v

[sly kestrel]

Well too late, quest got removed 😔

[undone steppe]

What's the story for it

Where does it come from?

[sly kestrel]

I think ur thinking too much about it
It was jus an old quest from pre launch beta
Nothing lore about it

[soft saddle]

i always feel like the vault is an illusion
we can see from the rebirth scene the top of vault and things destroyed

[ember zodiac]

The Vault looks like an archive..

[nova tiger]

There is an Archive

[sly kestrel]

Inside the vault

[undone steppe]

It's just stored in the memory capsules

We're lighting them the whole way

Come to think of it our spirit kinda looks like a power gem

Lanterns and things too

[drowsy spoke]

Hm yeah

There's a person that said our skykids seem like batteries XD

[undone steppe]

Makes sense considering gravestones have that design choice aswell

Did I mention that this is the temple in colluseum.

I'd like to wonder, if you can steal the light from something... can you steal it from people?

[drowsy spoke]

Hm, we don't really have humans in sky so we'll never really know

[undone steppe]

I mean spirits

Whatever

[drowsy spoke]

But do you think this is why humans went extinct?

In the sky world at least

[undone steppe]

Citadel is nicely fortified if you consider spirits can't fly

[drowsy spoke]

Ooh yeah that's true

The citadel seems like a school of some kind actually

[undone steppe]

I'm saying there are some freaky things going on behind closed doors

[drowsy spoke]

yeah I agree with you

One thing I like about sky is that we're sort of led to believe that the skyworld is a really peaceful and happy place

[undone steppe]

This was a crab dungeon long before it was a shaft to a crab pit

[drowsy spoke]

But if you really start looking you start to realize it's actually kind of dark

[drowsy spoke]

Maybe it's just me (I'm a sucker for this kind of stuff) that the spirits, or a big controller of something, are lying to us?

[undone steppe]

Darkness preys on light

[drowsy spoke]

Like this has been on my mind for a while

[undone steppe]

It's possible that we are the harbingers of an apocolyspe

[drowsy spoke]

Yeah, exactly!

[undone steppe]

Like the day of judgement for the christians

[drowsy spoke]

Mmhmm

Do you think we brought on some sort of apocalypse, and our memories were sort of wiped to protect us, or maybe keep us in the dark?

Psst or maybe I've been reading too many dystopian future novels

[undone steppe]

A few sects believe that your body will rest in the ground before a final day where light grows thin. Those who were just would rise with angels.

I have considered that maybe skykids are wax creations of the spirits or elders

They have the symbol of Eden on their chest

I believe this to either be a krill or a whale skeleton

[drowsy spoke]

Yeah!

I think that's a whale skeleton

[undone steppe]

It's life force is big enough to power a large gemstone

[drowsy spoke]

Krills don't seem to have flesh...

[undone steppe]

Do they just desipate or something?

I think that everything has a touch of the light of Eden inside it.

[drowsy spoke]

So I personally I think they'll just fall into the ground and die or something

[undone steppe]

Except creatures of darkness... Which tend to suck the life out of things

[drowsy spoke]

Yeah

[undone steppe]

Anyway I have to sleep soon

Wanna catch a friend code?

[drowsy spoke]

Yeah sure

[little shoal]

do you guys remember the big fish which appear sunny area and when you are in eden ?

i think that fish has bone

[narrow siren]

The whale that reads through the building?

[little shoal]

yes !!!

[narrow siren]

Idk there’s whale bones in the forest tho

[little shoal]

this bone

[narrow siren]

Myup

[timber creek]

I think it's somewhat related to the whale call.

[cinder haven]

What if the symbol could represent a god of some kind

[sly kestrel]

This was a crab dungeon long before it was a shaft to a crab pit
@undone steppe
It’s not a dungeon, it’s actually a storage room. If u look around, u can notice that there are supplies put there as well as sparklers and fireworks for their celebrations.

[drowsy spoke]

Ooh cool

So jay what do you think of the conspiracy theory

[sly kestrel]

What conspiracy theory?

[hushed steeple]

it's actually a nice theory xD

i just read it, about how skykids are being kept in the dark from the truth by a higher being

the megabird?

[ember zodiac]

Are krills corrupted whales?

[sly kestrel]

No

[ember zodiac]

Or there used to be light dragons

[sly kestrel]

2 way different creatures

[nova tiger]

They're different species

[sly kestrel]

i just read it, about how skykids are being kept in the dark from the truth by a higher being
@hushed steeple
I haven’t read ur guys’s theory but to add on to that, remember we were created without any emotion at all. We actually don’t feel at all, no pain, no real emotion or anything. We simply copy what we see the spirits do as emotes

[hushed steeple]

oh

:O

[nova tiger]

we're mocking the dead

[sly kestrel]

So this could add to the fact that we are being hidden from feeling these real emotions

[ember zodiac]

What if we could summon a great light dragon in the upcoming seasons and lore who would restore the kingdoms to its original glory?
Kinda like sheng long from DBZ

[hushed steeple]

so then there's no point to hide the truth

[nova tiger]

I'm sure people have already talked about this, but archives looks pretty broken into, entrances and holes everywhere

[hushed steeple]

maybe something happened with the crabs?

[ember zodiac]

They could dark kids... Our opponents

Created by the darkness

[hushed steeple]

interesting

[nova tiger]

I was thinking maybe they wanted to seal the darkest secrets into the archives, being forever hidden by everyone but can still be discovered but I'm not good at lore so

[sly kestrel]

well there’s always the kids that came before us
The eden skykids, they came before us and they prolly had a mission as well as us. I think they failed and as a second try, the narrator made US
No emotion, no pain

[ember zodiac]

The intro of the game kinda feels like Dark Souls 1 intro🤣

[hushed steeple]

well there’s always the kids that came before us
The eden skykids, they came before us and they prolly had a mission as well as us. I think they failed and as a second try, the narrator made US
No emotion, no pain
@sly kestrel ooohhh

makes sense

yea

[narrow siren]

The chain linked kids?

[ember zodiac]

What did the freed sky kids do then?

[hushed steeple]

go back to eden?

xD

[sly kestrel]

I was thinking maybe they wanted to seal the darkest secrets into the archives, being forever hidden by everyone but can still be discovered but I'm not good at lore so
@nova tiger
That’s actually the purpose of the archives. When it was first made by the devs, they said that the archives was a certain place that hides forbidden and secret knowledge, but after years of ruin, ppl started to break in. For example, the wise stance spirit

[ember zodiac]

go back to eden?
@hushed steeple I don't see the point of all this... We free them and become statues and the freed kids come back and free us to become statues again?!

[hushed steeple]

i wonder if the first-generation skykids were sent to purify the Eden Diamond. But because they had feelings, in this case, fear and pain, they failed.

[ember zodiac]

No the freed skykids went to orbit and become stars
@hushed steeple huh?

[sly kestrel]

I think we are able to free the statues over and over again jus for the purpose of replayability
Like after the credits I think that’s where we complete the game

[hushed steeple]

yea

or they become part of the megabird (Light, itself)?

[ember zodiac]

What happens after Eden

[sly kestrel]

....u didn’t complete the game?

😮

Oh..

It’s a

Moth moth

[hushed steeple]

😂

[sly kestrel]

Yea don’t be like that one dude who jus started the game and joined this chat when he finished prairie

I felt so bad....after u guys told him he had to die
He deleted the game 😂😭😭

[sweet dirge]

:O

[pallid delta]

We die?

Oof :'(

Sad life

[ember zodiac]

I have completed the game about 6-7 times lol

They should have an epilogue tho

[pallid delta]

I don't understand anything about the story, and even if the game is not really my type, I really like looking for cosmetics so don't worry! I can't wait to understand the story, she looks pretty and poetic

[ember zodiac]

My friend got to Eden and he didn't know how to make friends and so he got bored and quit.. And now I keep sending him screenshots of me Flying with my friends to make him jealous😂 😂

[nova tiger]

That’s actually the purpose of the archives. When it was first made by the devs, they said that the archives was a certain place that hides forbidden and secret knowledge, but after years of ruin, ppl started to break in. For example, the wise stance spirit
@sly kestrel Oof, I was too moth at the time to even get the stance, never saw anything

[ember zodiac]

Which is the wise stance.. the stance where u keep your hands under your belly?

[sly kestrel]

It was from season of belonging

[ember zodiac]

Oh

I wasn't there in belonging

Enchantment is my first season

[pallid delta]

Same

[sly kestrel]

We die?
@pallid delta I am so sorry for spoiling it, and I’m sorry to disappoint you even more but we don’t really have much understanding and confirmed info on the sky lore at all. Yes it’s a cool story but....all we have are theories and very little confirmed info

[ember zodiac]

That's the beauty of Sky..

U make ur own story

[sly kestrel]

Well....
This channel does say “spoilers” in it so

[pallid delta]

Sad lore... X.x

Yes i don't care aboug spoilers dont worry

[sly kestrel]

Wow ur a fresh moth out of the clouds
I haven’t seen one in so long

[ember zodiac]

Noob mode vids helped me a lot..

[timber creek]

This page name has spoilers in it...XD

[ember zodiac]

U won't be a moth anymore once u watch his videos

[pallid delta]

Yes it can be good but sometimes the music is too repetitive when I fly for an hour in search of candles 👀😂

[nova tiger]

We're talking about lore here

[timber creek]

But the music is very important in Eden.> Yes it can be good but sometimes the music is too repetitive when I fly for an hour in search of candles 👀😂
@pallid delta

What's the story so far?

[stuck flame]

There are candles in eden,

???

[timber creek]

Nope

[pallid delta]

Sometimes I try to read and understand the drawings but it often seems repetitive and abstract. Children going up to the temple ...

[stuck flame]

It looks like a bunch of boats floating on clouds with people holding stars or merch

[timber creek]

It looks like a bunch of boats floating on clouds with people holding stars or merch
@stuck flame that's how the history of sky land goes.

[ember zodiac]

But the music is very important in Eden.
@timber creek I play without sound🤣 🤣

[humble barn]

Does someone know if this big hole in the cloud has been there the whole time or not (Later I checked this place again and confirmed that the thing we can see above the clouds was just an OOB wall.)

[ember zodiac]

Ozone layer hole🤣

[timber creek]

@timber creek I play without sound🤣 🤣
@ember zodiac oh dear you absolute daredevil.
How do you figure out when the rocks will start blowing then?

[ember zodiac]

@ember zodiac oh dear you absolute daredevil.
How do you figure out when the rocks will start blowing then?
@timber creek Well I don't play with my eyes closed

[hazy merlin]

oop, not sure if that hole is supposed to be there

[pallid delta]

It looks like the hole from where we fall

[sly kestrel]

Nah it’s vault

[humble barn]

yeah at first i was was hyped because thought i was looking at Forgotten Ark area and

[timber creek]

Does someone know if this big hole in the cloud has been there the whole time or not
@humble barn Potential new oob area??

[humble barn]

then I realized the line I see is too straight

[ember zodiac]

It looks like the hole from where we fall
@pallid delta I think it isn't

[humble barn]

probably it's just OOB shipwreck wall

[sly kestrel]

What's the story so far?
@timber creek
We don’t have confirmed answers, only theories

[hazy merlin]

u can go up above the canopy, but ive never found anything except wind barriers :/

[humble barn]

shipwreck OOB isn't new, but I wondered if the hole was new

[ember zodiac]

Just some design I guess nothing related to lore at all

[timber creek]

@timber creek Well I don't play with my eyes closed
@ember zodiac that would be absolute crazy.

u can go up above the canopy, but ive never found anything except wind barriers :/
@hazy merlin wow really?
Keep trying you might discover something new...

[hazy merlin]

oop...i am curious

[ivory epoch]

||SPOILER|| ALERT 📌📌

okay

[timber creek]

Or it could be the boundary of the world? I mean, the maps in sky is inside a big giant cube
@hushed steeple cube?
What makes you say that?

[ivory epoch]

wait

It's downloading

[ember zodiac]

The sky is flat

Flat Sky Society

What video is that

[pastel brook]

bruh... talking about hacks and hackers is against the rules @hazy merlin

[hazy merlin]

...

i was

[sly kestrel]

It’s a hacker

[hazy merlin]

talking about what it was bot

[humble barn]

thanks tokyo

[timber creek]

bruh... talking about hacks and hackers is against the rules @hazy merlin
@pastel brook now now, we'll stop soon. ^^

[sly kestrel]

I’m tempted

To cal you Tokyo ghoul

[timber creek]

I accidentaly oob in some maps before. And when i go to far a big cube appears
@hushed steeple
Hmm... Wouldn't that just mean the play area is a cube.

[hazy merlin]

thats what ive always seen above the canopy too :/

[timber creek]

To cal you Tokyo ghoul
@sly kestrel kaneki kuuuun

[sly kestrel]

They can’t make the areas too big and detailed
Oob areas aren’t lore related, they are simply outside edges of the maps that aren’t meant to be explored, it looks ugly bc the devs didn’t bother poslishing these oob areas

[timber creek]

I read it, I started laughing like crazy when I saw the elder vac.

They can’t make the areas too big and detailed
Oob areas aren’t lore related, they are simply outside edges of the maps that aren’t meant to be explored, it looks ugly bc the devs didn’t bother poslishing these oob areas
@sly kestrel you're right, and of they did polish it, it wouldn't exactly be oob anymore. I get your point.

[crimson grove]

@ember zodiac please don't repost other artist's works

can you delete that please?

[ember zodiac]

Sure.. sorry

[humble barn]

@hushed steeple sry I was late to react but yes it's the Shipwreck area

yeah, maybe it was there all along and we just didn't notice

[ember zodiac]

Did the elders teach the spirits?

Lifestyle

[humble barn]

Probably

[ember zodiac]

Hmm. I don't they are dead as opposed to the spirits🤔

Maybe just powerless

[humble barn]

i think we are not sure if the elders are dead or not

but probably dead, because we can see them in the orbit

[hushed steeple]

Hey, does anyone have the timeline picture handy?

[craggy nexus]

This one?

[hushed steeple]

Yes

Any better upclose ones? NVM, lemme see of I can zoom in. Thanks @craggy nexus

I know it's concept art. Was just curious to see if any of that lore is still part of the actual game.

[mossy bay]

Someone re-drew the first half if you would like to see it?

[hushed steeple]

Yes please

[mossy bay]

I’d like to think that the game is still loosely based on this timeline it adds up pretty nicely

But who knows

[hushed steeple]

Ty so much

[mossy bay]

You’re welcome 🙂

I need to start paying attention more 😄 If all the elders were laid to rest in their temples WHO put them there? I’m going to use Stronk golden wasteland elder as an example because his shrine looks more like a tomb which makes me think that he may have fallen during the war? And after his death it was set that the other side would win (I’m not sure who the other side was so I’m just going to say Light and Dark at this time). His shield and weapon are by his tomb and the tomb looks big enough to fit him, who knows how far down it goes.. I also have a feeling that the GW elder was on the dark side and maybe all of the elders were at one point, basing this off the intro scene where the narrator asks us to bring their ‘Lost stars home’ and that they ‘didn’t listen’ maybe they all became power hungry and fell off of the correct path which in turn resulted in the sky kingdom being left in ruin and also of one of the tomcepts where the gw elder is placed pretty high on a ‘Danger’ scale, i will try to find the picture*

Another thing that might be related to his death is that on every Eden reset, double the darkness grows, More lost souls become available in Eden, could it be that the eye of the storm, the red diamond leaches our light to spread further? fertilising the GW land with more corruption and darkess making more plants grow?

Or maybe it was on this day that the GW Elder died and the darkness plants almost represent flowers of thorny bushes in remembrance of his death? They are a physical manifestation of the darkness that fell on the land. Also the Stonk Elder has hair that looks like a baby albino krill and in the map just before the temple we can see that the gate triggers the krill like a remote switch (someone had mentioned this before) i think the GW elder and the krill were on the same side, he found a way to tame them and they worked as companions protecting the town and its people. After the elder was somehow killed they went on a rampage and destroyed everything and every creature of light. Now, with no master they follow their true nature patrolling the lands scouting any and all creature of light to destroy(bit of a long shot i know 😜).please share your thoughts!

[craggy nexus]

I always thought the Krill were attracted to the activation of the door, which requires light-- I didn't realize increased darkness growth lined up with Eden reset, though! That definitely seems to be connected somehow!

[mossy bay]

That’s what i thought as well but it feels like too much of a coincidence that 3 krill begin to stalk you as soon as the gate is opened

Seems more like a defence mechanism

[ember zodiac]

but probably dead, because we can see them in the orbit
@humble barn Maybe they are some higher dimensional beings?!

[humble barn]

yeah that's possible! It may be a metaphor but they were stars before they fell to the world of Sky

[ember zodiac]

Hmm

[humble barn]

the six stars that fell in the intro cutscene were confirmed to be the elders. i thought it could be a metaphor of aliens but maybe they were someone closer to the megabird than normal creatures

[mossy bay]

From that timeline could it be that the mega bird granted the king the option to reanimate 6 of his past ancestors? That previously ruled the kingdom?!

[humble barn]

I think it does not mean his ancestors

Ancestors = Elders

I read, the prince chose 6 of his people and gave them power.
So I think that part of the timeline is definitely no longer canon, because the Elders we know now were Elders from the beginning

[uncut bramble]

Are we......stars.....or candles.....or cause we are stars we are a ball of fire so fire charges faster?

[craggy nexus]

What exactly are crabs made out of that makes them edible? Are they actually like... shellfish-y? No other creatures really seem to be physically edible...

Actually, do skykids even have mouths to eat? Or do they just enjoy setting crabs on fire?

[jade river]

Probably sky kids didn't set those crabs in fire, maybe during the war in golden wasteland some hungry troops tried to taste them (at least that's what i think)

[ember zodiac]

Hmm

I have found some clues...

Maybe

[fading bear]

What are those clues?

[silver belfry]

I think the Warrior Elder is the one who made Krills but it was a fail experiment and when we lit the door activator at wasteland's end it actually releash the caged Krills

[wide root]

How many krills in total there is in the game?

[silver belfry]

4-8 at the wasteland and 4 at Eden I assume

[ember zodiac]

Nope.. I had a look at the soundfiles names

They were named like fall into the void, lost and found, king merged, etc

Eden soundtracks @fading bear

[plush moon]

Tbh why would the gate open (to the headquarters) and krill will come in

[ember zodiac]

Tbh why would the gate open (to the headquarters) and krill will come in
@plush moon Maybe they wanted to enter the temple

And so they came when the heard the gate open

[plush moon]

Outta nowhere

[silver belfry]

May be krill was made as a defend system to protect who hide in the temple when enemies are terrify outside

[plush moon]

Ik that was I was thinking and that was my rebuttal. Why would they make themselves vulnerable to krill and the army

[silver belfry]

Like there was a war in wasteland and Krill is a bio weapon or sumthing

[plush moon]

To release the krill u need to open the gate that doesn't make sense

[silver belfry]

And the gate closed immidiately after it open

[ember zodiac]

Maybe the people in hid in the temple from Krills

So when the Krills sensed the gate was open, they came immediately

[silver belfry]

Then why won't they keep patrolling like the other part of the map?

There must be something keeping them underground

[ember zodiac]

Maybe they were trying to fool the people that they were gone

[drowsy spoke]

I feel like the krill is a weapon

Like a trick maybe

[silver belfry]

Yeah me too 😂 😂

[drowsy spoke]

“Hey, yeah, open the temple....haha sike krills”

[silver belfry]

What if Krills are a bunch of dark crab ? Or maybe an evolution of it?

They both hate light creature and turn slightly red when attack

[hushed steeple]

hey guys anything about forgotten ark lore story??(;_;)

[silver belfry]

The lost spirit are properly trying to return the star(light) to the sky by the ark but there's a strom (maybe they sailed to Eden) then the Ark torn apart

[hushed steeple]

by the krill?

[silver belfry]

The lights they carry got seperated

By the flying rock from the strom is more likely but maybe by krills too

[hushed steeple]

yeah but there is a krill on the mountain and there are like some drawings on the ark do you know possibly what they mean

does that krill kills u if you fly to it?

i have never tried

[silver belfry]

Yeah, then they stuck there and start farming and create their own India-like culture

[hushed steeple]

oh i see

[silver belfry]

I tried to touch a krill's tail once 😂 😂

It does turn back tho

[hushed steeple]

yeah seen on youtube

😆

okay thanks a lot let me know if someone have any other ideas

[drifting heart]

I've been wondering about this ever since I first did the Forest but..
If the rain in the forest can hurt our little Sky-babs, why is that? Is the rain water in the forest corrupted to such a degree that not even evaporation can distill it?

[drifting heart]

Here's another that's been wracking my brain..

If our capes are used in the same way as wings.

[hushed steeple]

The forest area does have a lot of darkness in it

[drifting heart]

How come we can take them off and put on another cape?

[hushed steeple]

Plants, crabs, rain

Oh. I believe we flow our energy through them. They're a tool for us to use our energy in a way that manipulates the air around I believe

The characters have been observed to have supernatural powers like telekinesis too so might have something to do with that stuff as well

[drifting heart]

..Wait telekinesis?

When?

[hushed steeple]

||The one where you lift the small rocks to open a secret gate||

||in vault I think? ||

[drifting heart]

Ah.

Also I think since this channel is super spoilery, the spoiler tags aren't needed.

[hushed steeple]

I guess so

Wanted to be safe

[drifting heart]

Also here's another thing.

Do Skykids age?

Is there any 'growth' they can do, outside the spell.

[hushed steeple]

I don't think they do. They're no human

They don't seem very "organic" either. They don't bleed or get disfigured like a human would

[reef flax]

Without the Flame, they are Human-

With Flame they are connected

[drifting heart]

That's for sure.. considering when you enter the wasteland you slam into the ground at the force of a bullet.

[reef flax]

Concept Chart art-

[hushed steeple]

I'm pretty sure if a Krill crashed into me I'd just die instantly lol

Sky kids are TOUGH

[drifting heart]

Sky Kids honestly remind me of Vessels from HK.

[sly kestrel]

They don’t have a natural body like humans, even without their flame

[drifting heart]

..Except Vessels are bugs.

[hushed steeple]

They look more like the embodiment of light, with the purpose of serving it and spreading it

Hence the never changing glowy white hair

[drifting heart]

serving and spreading light

Would that mean the light is sentient?

[hushed steeple]

Perhaps

Makes sense considering how the light creatures also help serve the same purpose

[sly kestrel]

Hmmm never thought of the white hair like that

[drifting heart]

Also that makes me wonder..

How tall are the Skykids compared to a person?

We somewhat know how tall the elders are.

Butterfly dad is 15' tall like holy moly..

[sly kestrel]

Person in real life or?

[drifting heart]

A person irl.

[hushed steeple]

There is a stone table in the sunny forest

[drifting heart]

Like, your average adult man.

[hushed steeple]

If we assume it's been made for humans of average size, then the sky kids are very small

Because the table is gigantic for them

And if we assume the spirits are of average human size, again, we come to the same conclusion

[sly kestrel]

We found a way to measure and our confirmed height in the pins somewhere but I forgot which channel

[drifting heart]

So like.. around 3-4 ft tall?

[hushed steeple]

Idk

My mind keeps telling me "they're babie"

[drifting heart]

'cause that's a similar question that's plagued the HK community.

[sly kestrel]

Well if ur jus wondering about height in real life, keep in mind it’s not on topic for lore

[drifting heart]

Well, it is sorta lore-y.

Because then we could use that height to find out just how big somethings are.

[sly kestrel]

Not rlly

They don’t keep the same exact height for everything and even if u measured the exact height of everything in the game
How’s that related to the story?

[drifting heart]

Simple, using their height you can find out how long it took the King.. or Elders.. or whoever built the civilzation.

[hushed steeple]

It can be helpful to determine whether or not some humanoid figures in the game are really human

[drifting heart]

That too.

Height plays a bigger role than you think.

[hushed steeple]

If an elder, as said is 15 feet tall, then they're definitely nonhuman

[sly kestrel]

U can tel their not human from the start tho

[drifting heart]

Butterfly dad is the one that's 15' tall.

Iirc Wasteland lad is.. 9-ish?

[sly kestrel]

This whole game is a fantasy so I don’t think it’ll be relevant if ur trying to base all ur clues to real life physics

[hushed steeple]

Symbolism can get confusing. Also I'm pretty sure the game is family friendly, so it wouldn't show some of the main things humans have--bleeding and disfigurement from the smallest hits

[sly kestrel]

And their heights vary based on our perspective
It jus supposed to show us that they are y’all

Like the elders at vault will appear shorter than the elders u see oob in their cutscene

[drifting heart]

I think that's because they can change their sizes.

[sly kestrel]

Even so, I think height doesn’t rlly help with the story at all
We should already kno that the spirits and elders are big

[hushed steeple]

Yea the FOV and angles do change drastically through gameplay

[sly kestrel]

And no that’s a game mechanic

[drifting heart]

Still, height does help with the story.

[sly kestrel]

If ur a game dev
Would u spend the time to make every single thing in the game the same height and same measurements and physics? I wouldn’t bc in different perspectives they will appear small so they make em bigger in oob

[hushed steeple]

Is it forbidden to discuss height here?

I don't understand why you're so against it unless this is a strictly story discussion based channel

[drifting heart]

Yeah.

Rules never said this channel is strictly story.

[hushed steeple]

I don't recall that either

[wide root]

It’s just normal

[drifting heart]

Just general lore.
Size of beings is a lore element.

[hushed steeple]

Because jesus christ, we get it, height doesn't play a huge role in story but can we discuss in peace?

[sly kestrel]

Well if u guys wanna talk about it it’s not forbidden but I highly doubt it will help with the story of sky

[hushed steeple]

Okay then

[sly kestrel]

I jus said u can talk about it

😂

[hushed steeple]

Okay?

[drifting heart]

Also here's something I've noticed about the spirit "whales".

They don't have heads.

[hushed steeple]

Oh, which ones? Like the one when you enter the underground forest?

[drifting heart]

No no.

[sly kestrel]

I don’t think they are spirit whales
It’s more of a larger spirit manta

[drifting heart]

The ones in the Vault.

[hushed steeple]

Vault?

They're some kind of a manta

[drifting heart]

I hate my hands sometimes ok?

[sly kestrel]

Ohh that one
Yea bones don’t match the manta

[sly kestrel]

They don’t have ribs or a skull

[drifting heart]

Not that one

[undone steppe]

I just took this picture as soon as I saw it

[wide root]

That ressemble more of a butterfly’s larva

[hushed steeple]

The creatures that yoink you in the vault

?

Beautiful picture Vinde

[sly kestrel]

Yea Ik what ur talking about
The skeleton doesn’t match the actual spirit manta that comes out

[undone steppe]

Yoinking spirits?

[drifting heart]

Yeah that one Vinde.

[wide root]

That ressemble more of a butterfly’s larva

[hushed steeple]

Do they even have skeletons

[sly kestrel]

Nope

[undone steppe]

Mega ghost mantas

[sly kestrel]

Specifically they don’t have ribs and skulls
But the skeleton does

[hushed steeple]

That one is called a multimanta or polymanta

I think

[undone steppe]

Multimanta I like it

[drifting heart]

What's funny is that there WAS a normal variant of that.

In old concept art there was a normal multi-manta.

[hushed steeple]

Yea it's just the biggest one in there. There's a group of more normal ones

[wide root]

Here we go again...

[drifting heart]

So maybe..

[hushed steeple]

Oh?

[drifting heart]

The bones in the vault are the skeleton of the normal mult-mantas?

And the cosmic ones are their lingering energies.

[undone steppe]

Jay says nay

[hushed steeple]

No idea, but maybe?

[undone steppe]

We know that whales were a think

I still feel like belongs to bones

[hushed steeple]

Oh by the way Vinde I believe showing your face can be an issue, but idk if that includes profile pictures

[drifting heart]

Yeah that's definitely

[hushed steeple]

Is that the fishface

[undone steppe]

I would think so, this bone structure is different from. The one found in the vault

[drifting heart]

Personally I call "whales" "Mega-canths"

[hushed steeple]

Sounds like-

Sounds--

Li-

[undone steppe]

No

[drifting heart]

Because they look like kaiju-sized Coelacanths.

[wide root]

Coelacanth....

[drifting heart]

So..

Megacanth

[undone steppe]

Coelacanth?

[wide root]

With a face of what

[drifting heart]

Coelacanths are ancient fish, Vinde.

[wide root]

All but a coelacanth’s face

[drifting heart]

They lived through the mesozoic era and survived the KT mass extinction.

Hmm...

Well it's definitely armored.

[undone steppe]

I should remember my Pokemon names more

[wide root]

.........

Really?

[hushed steeple]

There have been armoured ancient fish

[undone steppe]

Yeah, I can see it's head

[drifting heart]

Wait..

The way the armor is on their heads.

There's only one fish that remotely looks like that.

[wide root]

There have been armoured ancient fish
@hushed steeple that’s bones on the skin and the skull used as teeths

[hushed steeple]

I'm stupid but it looks like megalodon

[wide root]

Placoderms

[hushed steeple]

Makes sense

[drifting heart]

Not just Placoderms.

Dunkleosteus specifically.

[undone steppe]

Perhaps the it would also suggest they are predatorary and use their head for ramming into things

[hushed steeple]

Oh yes! That one

Not megalodon

[drifting heart]

Placoderms are armored fish in general but

[hushed steeple]

I mixed it up from the shark game I used to play

[undone steppe]

Seems to be the mainethod of attack on sky

[hushed steeple]

Oof

[drifting heart]

Look.

[wide root]

Stone head

[drifting heart]

That's definitely a stylized Dunkle head.

[hushed steeple]

The fins don't match at all tho

[wide root]

With ears

[hushed steeple]

Also it's kinda fluffy

A cross between a mammal and dunk

[drifting heart]

Nah the rest of the body is Coelacanth-ish.

[hushed steeple]

?

[drifting heart]

So probably a mix of Dunkle and Coela.

And then sized up to be a kaiju

Now comes the big problem..

[hushed steeple]

I wanna make a plushie of that

[drifting heart]

How are these creatures moving?

[undone steppe]

I like big things

[wide root]

Magic!

[hushed steeple]

They're made of light, they're not dense at all

[undone steppe]

I'm tuned out

[drifting heart]

There seems to be no way these fat bois should fly.

But then explain the bones.

[wide root]

They're made of light, they're not dense at all
@hushed steeple whales are made of skin and bones

[hushed steeple]

Have you seen elephant toothpaste?

[undone steppe]

Not should islands full of people!!

[wide root]

That’s a liquid

[hushed steeple]

@hushed steeple whales are made of skin and bones
@wide root pretty sure sky creatures aren't

[drifting heart]

Whales definitely are.

[undone steppe]

The mechanism is nigh irrelevant

[drifting heart]

They don't seem to be a "creature of the light"

[wide root]

@wide root pretty sure sky creatures aren't
@hushed steeple krills are made of light u saying...

[hushed steeple]

I mean they don't look like they're made of flesh

[drifting heart]

Whales seem to be made of skin and bone.

[hushed steeple]

Krills to be specific look like they're more mechanic than organic

[drifting heart]

Yeah I've seen the bones.

Also that's sorta weird..

The Whale bones are stark white, like.. with no texture.

[sly kestrel]

Quick lil whale lore passing by....
Part 2

[undone steppe]

We've been whale lore'd

[hushed steeple]

Oh the helmet looks like the megadunk creature

[drifting heart]

[undone steppe]

Speaking of Pokemon names

[drifting heart]

That pun.

[undone steppe]

Wakka wakka

[hushed steeple]

How do I get the megadunk helmet

I want

[wide root]

Find it

[drifting heart]

I think it's one of the forest spirits.

[hushed steeple]

Thanks

Makes sense considering that's where the bones are found

[undone steppe]

OH

It's a whale mask

I see

[hushed steeple]

Also who is to say the bones we find there are actual bones? Like, in the context we know bones

[undone steppe]

I wonder if any other mask shapes have that kind of meaning

[drifting heart]

True.

But the bones are like.. untextured.

[hushed steeple]

Because they're not the bones of an organic animal

Also sky graphics can't be too detailed because of the platform the game takes place on lol

[drifting heart]

Yeh true

pc Sky, full textured bones.

[undone steppe]

Do light creatures have bones???

[drifting heart]

Probably?

[sly kestrel]

Ahhh it’s not forest, it’s the whale mask from wasteland

[hushed steeple]

Grotesque gameplay time

[drifting heart]

That makes me wonder though.

[hushed steeple]

What if the light creatures take the shape of a skeleton after they die?
Or they're just spirits of the animals that have died.

[drifting heart]

We know that some creatures leave bones.

So does that mean fossils exist?

[hushed steeple]

Latter makes more sense though, since in that scene, we pray for the bones and we summon a ghost manta

Probably? Lol

[drifting heart]

dinosaurs in Sky

[undone steppe]

Yeah, I feel like this manta is encircling it's old body

[sly kestrel]

This is still yet to be confirmed
But I believe if creatures die of an unnatural death (murder) then their body will be left behind
Bc we al kno the creatures main life cycle was to migrate to orbit

[hushed steeple]

Makes sense

[drifting heart]

So maybe..

The creatures are immortal.

[hushed steeple]

So most of those creatures are just ghosts?

[undone steppe]

Oh nice!

[drifting heart]

But if they're murdered then they become bones.

[sly kestrel]

Well they decay of course

[drifting heart]

And then from that, the spirit mantas.

[hushed steeple]

But the manta that was destroyed by the krill never turned into bones

[drifting heart]

Well spirit animals in general.

[hushed steeple]

It just disappeared

[sly kestrel]

Mantas don’t have bones

[drifting heart]

I don't remember manta vs a krill..

[sly kestrel]

Oh...

[hushed steeple]

In the forest, there's a manta flying around near the spirit

[undone steppe]

Literal manta bones

[hushed steeple]

If you wait a few seconds the krill attacks it and it goes POOF

[sly kestrel]

Those bones don’t match the manta

[drifting heart]

Which spirit?

[sly kestrel]

And mantas don’t even have bones they jus have cartilage

[drifting heart]

These are obviously not Earthen mantas, Jay.

They probably have bones.

[wind bone]

The bones don’t match the manta but it’s implied that it’s the manta bones still, mantas don’t fly irl but that doesn’t mean they can’t fly in game lol

[hushed steeple]

A manta flies out of them when you pray for it though. Also, they're only called mantas because of their resemblance to irl mantas. Who is to say the Sky game is connected to irl in any way?

[drifting heart]

Yeh.

[hushed steeple]

The game is full of symbolism

I don't think most things should be taken literally

[drifting heart]

We have kaiju sized dunkleosteus coelacanth monsters.

[undone steppe]

I agree Jay, why do you always argue with bone facts

[drifting heart]

That fly btw.

[sly kestrel]

But anyways
Look at that spirit manta and look at the bone, they don’t have skulls, why would there be a head
And mantas don’t have ribs either, they are flat, I jus don’t see how it’s possible to have that skeleton match the manta

[hushed steeple]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[wind bone]

Why would they just have an unrelated skeleton there

[drifting heart]

Then why does a manta come out?

[hushed steeple]

Again, it's symbolic

[drifting heart]

And not.. literally anything else.

[sly kestrel]

That’s what I’m wondering
Why is there a random skeleton there

[wind bone]

It’s not random tho ghejcjsjjs

[hushed steeple]

No point in looking for irl logic in it

[undone steppe]

Bone fact: careful, there's a skeleton inside you right NOW

[drifting heart]

Oh yeah Seraph.

We may have figured out what the "Whales" are.

[wind bone]

Whale bones in forest don’t exactly fit into the whale we see in game but that doesn’t mean that it’s not whale bones

[drifting heart]

tbf

[hushed steeple]

Bone fact: careful, there's a skeleton inside you right NOW
@undone steppe and even a more horrifying fact: that skeleton can crack, break, rot or grow tumours.

[drifting heart]

The whale bones in the forest could be of a younger individual/dwarf species.

[sly kestrel]

I think they do.....the whale bones perfectly match the whale

[drifting heart]

Not in size though.

The living one we see dwarfs that skeleton.

[wind bone]

There’s artistic liberty though

[hushed steeple]

It can be another whale's bones

[sly kestrel]

But they can grow....

[plush moon]

But anyways
Look at that spirit manta and look at the bone, they don’t have skulls, why would there be a head
And mantas don’t have ribs either, they are flat, I jus don’t see how it’s possible to have that skeleton match the manta
@sly kestrel I would think that when it died its body basically condensed into bones

[wind bone]

Just bc they don’t exactly fit into a manta doesn’t mean a developer didn’t make it and place it there to show that it’s a manta

Esp since a literal dead manta comes out of it

[drifting heart]

Yeh.

[sly kestrel]

That’s like saying whales are born huge
They have a life cycle too, they could’ve been a baby at some point too

That’s why the size doesn’t match the whale we see

[drifting heart]

Yeah why do you think I said that the skeleton was probably a juvie whale.

[hushed steeple]

Yea it's an artistic game with a ton of symbolism. It's not logical to, well, search for irl factual logic and anatomical truth in it

[drifting heart]

Or maybe a dwarf species.

[sly kestrel]

I’m talking about the bones in forest

[drifting heart]

I'm also talking about the forest bones.

[sly kestrel]

A young whale died there....well in my opinion

[undone steppe]

That would mean that most bones we see come straight from whales

But each vertabrae is different

[hushed steeple]

Also who is to say that skeleton stayed intact? It might be smaller because some of it was discarded

[drifting heart]

Probably for the dorsal spines.

[drifting heart]

The tall neural spines might be a sail.

Or a fin.

[hushed steeple]

Why are we looking for physiological correctness in a heavily symbolic and artistic game

[drifting heart]

Idk.

[hushed steeple]

That's like seeing Winx and going "where are her organs?!"

[plush moon]

I think the vault bones belong to a mega manta

[drifting heart]

Winx?

[plush moon]

We see more of em in the graveyard

[hushed steeple]

A cartoon in which the girls have basically no waist

Literal hourglass

[drifting heart]

That's a name I haven't heard in a long time.

[ember zodiac]

That is a megabird skeleton or whale?

[undone steppe]

We're desperatly clinging on the notion that the skills we learned in real like will support us here

[plush moon]

I just call big mantas that ;-;

I think it would be false to claim that sky doesn't involve any realism of logic

[hushed steeple]

We're desperatly clinging on the notion that the skills we learned in real like will support us here
@undone steppe probably why people keep inserting random stuff about bones even when the topic is different

[undone steppe]

What's the topic???

[hushed steeple]

I think it would be false to claim that sky doesn't involve any realism of logic
@plush moon it does, but its heavily symbolic and artistic

[plush moon]

Yes and even the symbolism involves realism

[undone steppe]

Can we talk about the important things

[ember zodiac]

The realms are phases of life

[undone steppe]

Like how come this pot is different

[hushed steeple]

Yes but not to the point where we can go "oh how does a child fly like that? Why does the creature not have bones?" because its fiction

[ember zodiac]

If u say realism

[plush moon]

I understand Jay's point and I'm saying that the existence or style of the.game doesn't refute his point

[undone steppe]

It's the only one of it's kidn

[hushed steeple]

Every product of human creativity is a result of reality after all

[undone steppe]

Why light blue?

[hushed steeple]

But we can only find so much realism in a heavily symbolic and artistic stylised game.

[wind bone]

You mean the little triangles on it?

[plush moon]

I know but imagination can be reasonable

We trying to find the logic of these skeletons

[undone steppe]

Yeah! You might be able to help seraph

[hushed steeple]

Nobody said it can't be reasonable. I'm just saying we can't compare it to irl stuff in its literal self because it's been changed and stylised

[wind bone]

I think that pot is also used for the prarie cutscene

After you watch it the pot is there in place of the candles

Why does it look different from the rest tho not sure

[undone steppe]

Hmmm

[plush moon]

I know but there's a fallacy when u try theorize about something having a reason and when u can simply resort to "it's fiction"

We should accept all questions

[hushed steeple]

That's one of the two extremes. The other being "Why is this that way, it's not that way irl, that doesn't make sense"

[plush moon]

And I felt Jay's point was logical and exposed a fault in the logic

[undone steppe]

I suppose, but we kind finding evidence of bones not matching up

Where are all the whales

[wind bone]

ded

[undone steppe]

Why do we only see one manta skeleton

But whales used to live in the wasteland too?

[ember zodiac]

We also see a baby manta skeleton?🤔

[wind bone]

I think they used to live everywhere

[plush moon]

That's one of the two extremes. The other being "Why is this that way, it's not that way irl, that doesn't make sense"
@hushed steeple but he said that the skeleton didn't fit the manta. And it's logical that a skeleton should fit it's creature

[hushed steeple]

That's subjective

[plush moon]

I guess...

[hushed steeple]

The game is, again, extremely artistic and stylised. While questions are indeed welcome and people are of course allowed to wonder and theorise, I personally believe there isn't a reason for it all to fit exactly

[plush moon]

;-;

I know we have to think outside the box

He was just stating a perspective

[hushed steeple]

He was and I have nothing against it

[undone steppe]

I think everyone can agree that the bones in forest and graveyard are whales

[plush moon]

Aight

[drifting heart]

Yeah they're most likely whale bones.

[undone steppe]

That whales look like this

[steep coyote]

No other animal is that big so yeah

[plush moon]

I think the bones in wasteland are mega mantas

[steep coyote]

Like the Spirit one in Vault?

[undone steppe]

Megamantas like multimantas?

[plush moon]

Ye XD

[steep coyote]

Makes sense.... That's why in Vaults we can't find their Bones

[ember zodiac]

Why can't Krills be corrupted Manta or Whales?

[undone steppe]

Have we considered that maybe multimantas are the spirits of whales

[primal peak]

Life

[drifting heart]

Wait wha.

Where's thaat.

[undone steppe]

Because your spirit doesn't need to confirm to your body

[hushed steeple]

I believe when light meets dark, it gets destroyed. That explains the manta that POOFed when a Krill attacked it in the forest

So I don't think a manta can be corrupted and turned into a Krill, it'd most likely cease to exist in my opinion

[drifting heart]

But did the krill poof as well?

[steep coyote]

A Krill never went to the forest -

[hushed steeple]

No, the krill was much more bigger and denser than the manta

[drifting heart]

Ah.

[wind bone]

Krill are already corrupted

They have corruption all over them

[drifting heart]

Y'know that makes me wonder.

What did Krill look like pre-corruption?

[wind bone]

👀

[steep coyote]

Like a Shrimp

[hushed steeple]

A Krill never went to the forest -
@steep coyote I remember a Krill being somewhere like the forest. Maybe it was in the depths of the golden wasteland.

[steep coyote]

[wind bone]

I believe that krill are corrupted manta

[ember zodiac]

Can it be like this that the bones in the Vault were of a guardian manta? When it died, the elders kept its skeletons there to give him respec

[hushed steeple]

Maybe

[steep coyote]

@hushed steeple oh yeah! Then yes, it's in the Westeland

[drifting heart]

Possible.

[hushed steeple]

Yes!

It's the wasteland, indeed

[primal peak]

or maybe the elders died too and nobody’s there to maintain order

[steep coyote]

That poor manta...

[hushed steeple]

The area looks like a part of the forest smh

[steep coyote]

Hmm... Never thought about it ahaha

[wind bone]

I think crabs are also a corrupted light creature

[drifting heart]

Light crabb

[hushed steeple]

What would be the uncorrupt version of crabs?

"roasted crabs"

[wind bone]

Have you all looked at the crab murals in the ark very closely?

[undone steppe]

Docile crabs

[wind bone]

I think they were also manta

[drifting heart]

Yeh.

[wind bone]

So like krill were the Big manta

And the crabs were baby manta

[steep coyote]

Crabs are Indeed corrupted! In Westeland they have black particles around them, in Forest nope

[hushed steeple]

But the forest crabs still harm you

[drifting heart]

Maybe the black particles depends on their level of corruption.

[undone steppe]

They are red and angry in valley

[steep coyote]

That's why in Westeland they are way more aggressive than the ones in the forest

[cobalt palm]

Oh, that's why after seemingly time passes on the Ark murals, smaller manta return?

[undone steppe]

Maybe they're corrupt because of abuse and mistreatment

[hushed steeple]

Makes sense. The corruption levels do increase as you go to the later maps.

Maybe they're corrupt because of abuse and mistreatment
@undone steppe it's all because we keep flipping them over

[wind bone]

@cobalt palm yeah that’s what I think!

[hushed steeple]

I pick them up and YEET them into the dark water lol

[steep coyote]

Yep!

[wind bone]

When you look at the murals there were a lot of manta and a few crabs

But the more the ancestors dumped corruption into the water

The more manta became corrupted and turned into crabs

[steep coyote]

@hushed steeple I managed to Yeet one of the with the Catapult

[wind bone]

And then the clouds turn the area dark and they have to flee from all the crabs they created

[steep coyote]

AHAHA

[undone steppe]

Ahahah

[hushed steeple]

PFFT-

It's so fun to mess with the crabs. Idk why

[steep coyote]

I wanna do that again -

[hushed steeple]

Dewit

[undone steppe]

Bully the weak

[drifting heart]

Y'know that makes me wonder...

[steep coyote]

Then today I was "cooking" the one in the forest Temple

[drifting heart]

We never really see any "bodies" in Sky.

[hushed steeple]

Pfft- bruh.

Well.

[wind bone]

Maybe that would be too graphics for the kiddies

[hushed steeple]

I'd think the bodies would dissolve since the only living creatures we've seen were creatures of light and dark.

[wind bone]

It is rated 9 and up

[undone steppe]

Close enough

[hushed steeple]

Also yea it can be too graphic

[drifting heart]

Like the closest thing would be the bodies you give light to, which then you get the spirit.

But they look more like.. stone?

[hushed steeple]

We do see bodies of crabs being roasted though

[steep coyote]

Wait... Didn't the spirits were already Spirits when they came to Skyland?

[hushed steeple]

There's also a bird's corpse at the entrance of the citadel in Valley

[undone steppe]

!!

[wind bone]

@steep coyote no they all died due to an.... incident

[undone steppe]

An actual bird corpse yes, I almost forgot

[drifting heart]

Oh yeah!

I wonder..

Were there other civilzations in Sky?

[wind bone]

Yeah I think so

[hushed steeple]

Perhaps. They may have collapsed

[steep coyote]

Omg... I once tried to revive the Bird at Valley with my little candle... I was so sad it didn't work

[drifting heart]

Like.. there's the kingdom we explore but.. are there any others?

[cobalt palm]

They do appear to be flying up again from the ground, so what is it that transforms or corrupts manta into crabs and purifies crabs back into manta?

[wind bone]

The devs say that the sky kingdom we explore is only a small part of the civilization

[hushed steeple]

Aww

[steep coyote]

@wind bone the Eden one?

[wind bone]

Yeah

@cobalt palm oh I’m referring to the murals in the cave!

[cobalt palm]

Ah yes, there are manta depected in there too

[steep coyote]

Omg I hope they add new areas - I mean... There are so many mysteries to unveil

[cobalt palm]

It was just the ark was more clearly a linear timeline

[drifting heart]

Also here's something odd about the civilzation.. especially since you see it in Eden.

[wind bone]

They won’t add another gate but they will continue to add areas to existing levels

[hushed steeple]

I've gone into every corner in the maps but I'm sure there are still a lot of things to be seen

[steep coyote]

Oww

[drifting heart]

But it seems that the civilzation did have an industrial revolution.

[wind bone]

Adding another gate will throw off the theme they’re going for

Since everything is so heavily tied to the life cycle

[steep coyote]

True, Westeland and Eden are examples

[drifting heart]

Like in Eden.

You literally walk on steel gurdurs

[hushed steeple]

You just go and die in eden oof

[drifting heart]

And go into sewer pipes.

[steep coyote]

@wind bone true that - but now I'm too curious

[wind bone]

Yes I think wasteland was The industrial part of the kingdom

Pipes and sludge everywhere

[hushed steeple]

The ship wreck does make sense in that way

[wind bone]

Seeing factories in the distance

[hushed steeple]

I hate wasteland so much