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They might have fallen off
oof yea true true
Anyone know why some have capes and others don’t?
The piano spirit died from being smacked in the face by a moth flying at mach 3
Hmmn
I guess yeah
Maybe its a choice
ohhh like an occupation kind of thing?
Yeah
Yeh maybe
some are musician and some are skypeople
Does the prarie boat builder dude have a cape?
no?¿
Okie
oo dunno
Cause if he’s a boat builder, it wouldn’t really make since? You know?
He builds boats
Yrah
so builder
i mean each spirits are remnants of the past right?
Yeah, they’re like, well spirits
it shows what the civilization was like
Yeah
so makes sense if each have their specific careers, equipped with accurate stuff
Yeah
So like, name a caped spirit
Purpel cape
What is she doing again? I know she’s the frustrated spirit I think
still heree
but then i dont rmbr what she does oof ahah
Now we need to find it okie
ahahah yee
Great
forest spirit is what i know abt her
ooo yellow cape is the butterfly emote!
Yeah
maybe that spirit herds butterflies?
trueee
Question: are our capes like part of our bodies, or like clothes
Yeah
and u get the capes from spirits right?? so maybe clothes?
So kinda liek wands
i mean when u boost urself it kinda shows those sparkles
Harry Potter you know
yeee i was thinking of like pixie dusts lol
im guessing the important part is the lights we get from glowy golden bois
Yeah
and we capture them?? to put it in the cape
So the light is our life force
like harness their energy
But yeah, the cape is a way to harness it
And the spirits in prairie, the ones behind locked doors. Got locked inside
@stuck oyster
Where’d u get this? Doors can open you know
i mean u need two people to open it dont u
Yea but what makes u think 2 ppl didn’t open the door when they existed
huehhhh dunno then lol
If it’s openable today in the sky world
Don’t u think it’s openable when they first created it 
What if the doors were just locked. Liek with a key
thats rlly sad oof
I don’t think keys like that are in sky
Okay fine
i mean do they forge iron?? i saw somewhere that glass can be found in sky cuz thats modern
Hmm
I’m jus confused how u guys got the idea of them being locked inside the door and then dying in there
Jus bc their spirit memory is there, I don’t think that specially means they died there
I don’t know
Can anyone explain to me what is the story with the big bones that you can find in the vault and forest?
Sky is meant to give an ancient civilization vibe
OOp right typo didnt put the t in cant ahah
big bones? i thought theyre whale bones
im guessing theyre like the ones we see in sunny forest
glass is not that much more modern than goldsmithing
Yea but it’s not something in sky is my point
Yes ancient civilizations used glass
But not sky
I think
but then theres those see thru mantas, r they like spirit mantas??
See that’s what I’m confused about
The tiny skeleton gives us cosmic manta call, but the skeleton don’t look anything like a manta

Mantas are flat and I don’t think they have bones at all
yea it kinda looks like it has a head

Especially wide ribs which they don’t have
So
And u can confirm that jus by simply looking at it
Everyone hold on.
We have mantas and cosmic mantas
So, ‘cosmic mantas’ are like spirits, but normal mantas are alive
“Moth devourer”
Should we be concerned?
okokokok makes sense
The big bones I assume are from the whales
but then we only see normal mantas in forest and valley
The big bones where?
and one in wasteland thats always sacrificed to the krill 
OH!
But how did they die?
maybe they cant stand rain?
Or maybe suffocation
cuz u find one in the sunny forest right?
Was it when the darkness came?
Probably
like its a light creature
Well... actually
And they were attacked by krills?
while other creatures there r like cosmic
I don’t think a whale specially died and left behind spirit bones
What we see in vault is more of a spiritual/symbolic thing that is happening
Devs even hinted it as well
Why does the rain in forest drain you of light, when the water dosnt?
ooooooo
@night sleet bcs the rain is touched by darkness
For example
The level with the trees supposed to represent the forest realm
ok so i think cuz the water is still pure, while the ones in wasteland is corrupted
Like in wasteland the water is corrupted
eyy same thought
Yeah, but would the rain do it when the water dosnt@hot coral
And so is the rain
hmm maybe the rain is corrupted by eden?
Tbh I don’t even think wasteland water is even water anymore
Yeah, but if the rain is coming down to make the rain?
u know that its spouting those red crystals
So, the bones are in tact, right? There isn’t any meat on them either, so they died fairly long ago and were bleached by the sun, the ones in the vault may lead to speculation that the vault originally was exposed to sunlight, but when the darkness came they had to shut it off and lock themselves in, the whale bones in the vault could have been caused by many things, like starvation, old age, or suffocation, the point is, neither were killed by darkness as the bones are unscathed.
I guess the Less corupted kingdoms are isle,prairie,valley and vault
Yes
ahah yea wasteland water even sounds weird kinda like those factory stuff thats thrown out
woah eldritch u should help my eng assingments
How did the darkness came
So, the bones are in tact, right? There isn’t any meat on them either, so they died fairly long ago and were bleached by the sun, the ones in the vault may lead to speculation that the vault originally was exposed to sunlight, but when the darkness came they had to shut it off and lock themselves in, the whale bones in the vault could have been caused by many things, like starvation, old age, or suffocation, the point is, neither were killed by darkness as the bones are unscathed.
@mellow rune
Like I said earlier, the ascent of vault isn’t much of a physical thing. It’s more of deep meaning and representation, devs even hinted that. And what we see simply supposed to give us knowledge and the whole vault ascent is jus a symbolic journey
Well it was them abusing the light and power I thought
It came from the sky, as stated in the lore, the people of darkness went to war with the people of the sky/light because the sky people stole their crystals to power their things
like they made the world corrupted
Huhhhhh
ohhhhhh wow
It was confirmed and pieced together by the land earlier
That’s bc there are no ppl of darkness
There’s no concept or any evidence of it at all rlly
Confirmed?
They spectate from a distance, well live in a different land
like would krills be the guardians of ppl of darkness
Like everyone agreed that it all lined up
Ur the only one that said this before
That actually interesting
Krill=whale, basically
Huhh
@mellow rune I call them worms
I honestly don’t kno where ur getting all this
But this is ur interpretation and I’m not gonna shut it down
I can go over the whole basic lore now, if you want.
I've never understood what they meant
?
I never understood what you meant
I’m confused
It was confirmed and pieced together by the land earlier
@mellow rune
May I ask what ur talking about specially
Somebody explored all the land/kingdoms of sky and pieced together a lore that everyone agreed on later. Like everything fit with the lore they gave
Do u remember the username of the person
I’m guessing u discovered something
The Krystal's power the people of the sky, someone stole it from the vault
Then destroyed it.
FOUND IT
Listen
What
See this icon?
Where.
On the center of the skykids chest is a emblem found on the chest
OHHHHH
No that’s an old concept art that isn’t current canon anymore
What is?
No I understand now
What is current cannon, that’s what I’m asking, woman.
The diamond is a way of harnessing wax
Current speculate
Have you even read it?
What if a lower eldar began a rebellion again a kingdom of light
I’m the one that sent it lol
Ah
Is there a new document?
Have u even read it
There are no ppl of darkness in the timeline
It’s about the prince and his downfall of the kingdom from his corruption and obsession with power
Darkstone
I know
Is there no darkstone?
But I didn’t mean to send that, about the dark people
Alright well all I gotta say is that it’s an old scrapped idea
Like.....really really old
I think that the children of light are created by megabird
So it’s not much relevant to the current story
Or like a creation of spirits guided by elders.
Then what is?
Look at pinned messages I guess
We don’t have a full story planned out already
We simply have our theories and speculations and very little stuff confirmed by devs
Are pinned messages new enough ?
If we had the whole sky lore already
This chat wouldn’t exist
I'm speculating tho
So why are we slowing down speculation
Yeah, we don’t.
I’m just saying your old theories made sense! And your still rambling on about it like I’m some uneducated person! I get it, it’s not the current lore, but it makes sense, at least to me, we are here to speculate and I think that your timeline matches the closest to the real deal, and I might be wrong, and I might be right, but saying that it isn’t the current lore does not make your old timeline wrong. @sly kestrel
My......
It was taken from the concept art from Tom Zhao
It’s what USED to be thought of as the backstory of sky
Now it’s jus a story I like reading
I’m the one that sent it lol
@sly kestrel what about this?
Sending it doesn’t mean I made it
Then who did
i literally jus told u
It’s concept from Tom Zhao
One of the devs
That timeline USED to be the concept of the backstory
Yeah, and I liked it, why are you making more of this than there needs to be?
I’m confused honestly
I’m jus trying to tell you
It’s an old concept
Made by Tom Zhao
Yeah.
In his concept arts
Yeah.
I get that.
And your saying it doesn’t line up with the current lore, and in my opinion, I think it does line up with the current lore.
This was back when the forest elder was called the shaman elder
It’s also back when the king used to be stuck in the storm and he would attack you
Does he attack us in the storm
Do we see the king in the storm
Then why did you post it this year
Wdym?
The timeline, you posted it less than a year ago.
Well I didn’t post it to tell ppl it’s canon
I posted it to simply show people for who wanted to see it
But everytime I always reminded them, it’s not current canon
Yes, and I agree with the timeline. That is literally all I am trying to say.
Well, ur opinion is ur opinion
Everyone has their interpretation of the sky lore, and I won’t shut it down 😁
Even better
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U did it 
i noticed that the elevator has little blue cracks in it, which im assuming is tied to the diamond above and below it
i didnt get a screenshot but the platforms that rotate the armillary spheres in valleys citadel also have the same cracks
i dont think its a stunning revelation or anything but i did think it was cool to show how exactly the armillary spheres work
(assuming the connection i just made is an actual thing)
Where can i read the lores??
Pinned messages I'd the best you got
Ohk
wait really?
I need some noice theories...
It's alittle faded, but I didn't catch the other side before it opened
so is that the second important symbol?
i got a closer picture btw
theres that symbol and then theres also this symbol
It's also on the sky kids chest
We need to isolate these images and locations
I suggest a lore hunting party on Saturday. We should see if we can do voice chat via discord
i saw this particular symbol as well, but i dont know if these are only isolated in valley
lore hunting party 🤔 that requires a lot of organization
I'll get it ready
i think its entirety possible that all these symbols are variations of the same one symbol
which is the one located above eden, with six diamonds
im gonna look for more evidence
Alright so I have a sort of lore theory about the Ark's position and condition. It's gonna take a little bit to type it out.
...thinking about dark plants in forest and how do they catch live creatures like mantas and cryspirit’s friends— is it possible that sometimes they grow on mantas/people like a weird tumor? like, I dunno, stored light going bad and erupting outward idk
ahem.
When the Ark was trying to leave the Golden Wastleland, possibly as it was falling to corruption and ruin, something struck the Ark's oars. This damage threw it off course and into the mountains, the Ark basically being pin-balled through the mountain range until it slammed into its current spot. The people who were fleeing the area on the Ark resorted to using their supplies, and possibly the pool of water you go to to talk to the spirit guy. However the corruption and darkness spread to that area as well, dark plants forming in their fields, lush ground wilting away, etc. However with the last of their power they sealed some life into the various lights, the ones you collect now, to various parts through some magic so that they won't fade away as they would be in the biome that can sustain that light. And slowly, everything eroded and died.
Supposedly, the thing that struck the Ark before it slammed into the mountains and into the area it is located in is that Dark Dragon you see in the mountains. That Dark Dragon now looms over its territory like a Lion.
that theory is kinda similar to mine!
i base my theory off the murals, which suggest the ark was caught in some kind if storm and struck by lighting and supposedly the krill came along later
Oh? That's really interesting!
Maybe it was a conjunction of storm and krill.
The storm made the crew of the Ark lost, and move into the mountains. The Krill took the advantage of their vulnerable area and basically beat up the ark to a point it crashed there.
Like, using brute force to "throw" the ark into the mountains and damage its oars.
Without the oars it can't function, and so it crash lands.
Oh and also you know the guy that sends you to get the lights?
I have a theory that guy was actually the captain of the Ark's crew.
But how did the lights end up in those other realms
I kind of assumed that the ark and company were fleeing the wasteland and got hit by a storm. Its not uncommon for ships to fall off course in them. This could have directed the ships to the krill, which ended in them being attacked. Between the storm and krill damage, it could have caused the ships to ultimatwly crash in the desert and leave the crew/passengers stranded.
My theory I that when they lights got separated, they moved to a place that fits their element
Like praire being the green light, cyan light going to the wind, etc
That could also be a case.
Sort of like it got attracted to it
The blue light’s water element got attracted to the freshwater at the ice rink and that’s why it went over there
They're simply attracted to the biome that fits them.
Maybe in the chaos the lights were lost from the ship and drifted to where they landed? Like bottle messages but with the lights
Oh wait crab mine murals showed mantas fleeing— were the lights carried away by mantas?
Maybe!
All the lights after things began to wilt in that area fled through different methods.
Maybe they carried the other ones too
And I like that theory bc it gives meaning to the mantas on the ark mural
Green needs something earthly/living. So it used a manta.
Cyan is wind right? Therefore it used the air currents.
There may be some mantas hanging out in the clouds where the cyan light starts too— will have to check
I reallylike the manya theory!
why was purple in vault then?
mantas have never been seen in vault (- spirit mantas)
It’s a secret vault area, someone had to know about it
I doubt mantas are that smart
Hmmm
That's why I said each light had a different way to flee.
Green needed something alive, so a manta flew away with it.
Blue is water.. so maybe it catched a ride on some rain.
Cyan is wind so it's simple as 'it rode on air currents'
i believe that purple light is memories, something along that line, so thats why the purple light gravitated towards the archives
But Purple.. purple is the real mystery.
Forest has mantas tho
What is red too
Illusion
I forgot where does red show up?
Shipwreck = illusion ??
No no the lights were attracted to something.
red shows up in wasteland
But based on the theory of creatures carrying the lights to their place
It said that red veils in darkness...or something like that
Maybe a krill saw it and put it over there
at both shipwreck and ark
Or my theory of how they simply attracted to their place
Yeh.
i personally prefer the attraction theory
Ark red light is in crab qanat tho, not near krill
Maybe a crab took it.
Shipwreck = illusion ??
@celest spoke
The illusion element was able to reveal the hidden murals on the ark. We already kno it was previously painted before the light show bc the mural painter was seen painting it
Envisioning crab paddling its lil feet all the way from ark back to main wasteland
It makes sense to me but u can interpret what makes sense to u
Personally
I think red is illusion
Also I like how me and Dae sorta stirred this whole thing from our theories on how the Ark got to its location.
And now we're talking about how the lights moved.
The ark....crashed
Not much talk about how it got there
Oh I see..
The storm probably threw the ship so far off course..
They basically went straight at a Krill.
Krill then attacked, ship slammed into area.
Have we actually seen lightning in Sky? (Maybe at home if you’re partway thru Eden?)
Survivors had to use their stored supplies, but the corruption spread to their area.
yes, we see lightning at eden and we see it in the trailer for season of enchantment
So in a last ditch effort they created the lights, the lights then spread to the biomes they were attracted to.
Because when you give back a light, another spirit shows up.
And they clearly know how to work it.
Lights are seen being created and loaded onto boats at the start of the trip tho
im not sure the spirits really "made" the lights
Also
One my my theories is that bc all the elements were together in one boat, it caused an unstable power and this attracted the deadly storm that caused them to crash. There are no storms in wasteland and isn’t it strange that the storm isn’t there anymore. In my opinion, I think the Orbs all being in one place caused the storm and it’s not natural
i think its smthn like each spirit specializes in a certain light
Like, they didn't make it but they know how to work it?
specializes is very loose tho bc shrug spirit couldnt work it well
if you remember his memory
Yeh.
water...bE FRESH 
Oop, didn’t work

Only immediate ark area is being affected by most lights
That
Is probably the only spot they could really salvage.
Yes I know there seems to be the makings of a farm in the far back.
OMG WHAT IF THAT IS WHAT THE CATAPULT WAS FOR LAUNCHING LIGHTS
Cultivation and Archaeology I guess
Cuz they got stranded in the desert
They had to survive somehow, so I think that’s why there was a farmer
Cause there's murals inside the caves too
interesting, but why would they need to launch lights 
Simple.
Catapult is RIGHT THERE near central light effects
After the corruption spread to the area the ark was in.
the cave murals are mostly some kind of crab lore that we havent looked into
They had to save their lights somehow.
So they quickly made a launching device that resembles a catapult.
And blasted the lights out of the golden wasteland.
either that or yeeting crabs everywhere
And with the lights out of the wasteland, their natural attraction to a specific element allowed the lights to travel to the specific realm.
Maybe they NEEDED MORE POWER SO THEY WERE PUT INSIDE PLACES THAT WOULD ENHANCE THE LIGHT
The isle wind, the praire biome, the ice rink water, THATS WHY THE WATER DIDNT WORK FOR THE SHRUG SPIRIT, IT WASNT STRONG ENOUGH
:0
That would make sense why it wasn't strong enough!
Because the ice ring isn't water, it's all locked up in ice!
It's still a majority locked inside the ice cap.
Remember the blue light is ONTOP of the ice.
Not inside the water.
so, they catapult the lights across sky, the lights gravitate towards a place that is natural for its element, that powers up the light, and we go get the powered up light and return it to the spirits so they can use it?
ooooohhhh I’m thinking that ice isn’t just frozen water, it’s crystallized PURE water so locked away from corruption
and the blue light does go underwater tallahasse
Oh yeah!
The water would've had to be pure
else all that time we are under the ice our lights shoulda been taking damage if it was corrupted water.
Oh, I mean when I caught mine it was ontop the ice.
it goes over the water and then back under for a bit
Every time I’ve caught the blue light It’s been underwater
it follows a set path, like how krills have a path they follow
Ah.
But that makes me wonder.
That we'll probably have to wait and see though.
What would orange and silver's meaning be?
Now I’m considering krills as pointy protective packaging for lil blue and red lights
Are there lores about season of enchantment
To a degree yes.
thats what we are on about rn
We've been discussing that aamof.
Ohhhhh lol
I have a summary but we don’t have anything confirmed yet lone wolf
we are loring right now oh noes
First it was me and Dae's theories on how the ark ended up there.
Is it pinned??
nahh
Now we're on about how the lights got from the Ark to their respective biomes.
Alright so the general consensus of the lights is.
Rainbow light yeet from catapult
The lights were launched out a catapult.
Ohhhhh
And their natural attraction to a specific thing led them to the area they're in.
Oo
I would say my theory but u need to know about the season of lightseekers
And from their time in said area 'empowered' them, and now we bring back the empowered light to the Ark.
Main flaw I can think of is red light was right there behind ark; didn’t need the one from shipwreck to boost restoration
Yeah..
Red and Purple are the real mysteries.
The other four are easy, they're the four elements.
Ground, water, fire, air.
And we don’t have full info about orange/fire yet
On the murals, we see that the spirit's were going with their respective lights with the quest master and suddenly a thunderstorm appeared. Because of lightning, they the ship fell and broke.
Other than it is probably fire.
Yeah, our theory is that the storm was caused by the lights.
Oh
Like, it was an unnatural disaster.
But! The storm set off a chain reaction that attracted a Krill to the area, the Krill then began to beat the Ark, and the Ark crashed.
Because on the other side, you see a Krill drawing.

...if the main places we see lightning are related to Eden, could the storm have been the same thing as the Eden kerplosion event?
Possible, but on a MUCH smaller scale.
Aren't the lights doing something related to the spirits. So the orange light should do something related to the playfight one.
why the ark in lower than other area ?

Hmm I actually think of Ark area as higher than main Wasteland— ferryboat goes up, Ark area is surrounded by cloud
Aren't the lights doing something related to the spirits. So the orange light should do something related to the playfight one.
@broken basin
Big mistake, i edited it
@celest spoke they are surrounded by mountains
Yeah, and the Ark's locale could be a valley in those mountains.
it looked like a crater , idk
Even magical boats don't create the crater on the size of what an asteroid can do.
There’s that one broken ship to the left in a really deep crater, over where oob mushrooms used to be
Unless there's a magical amount of gravity.
To this day I still don't know what oob means.
to stop the clouds coming to the ark
out of box
Ah.
No no I know what you meant it's fine xd
Oh also that HUGE ANCHOR back by farm seems too big even for Ark???
But still if the Ark really is this big.
Maybe cuz it’s not from the ark 
i think that anchor would work
@drifting heart the area which can't be accessable by us without using any bug
it suggests that boats can sit stationary in place which is neat
it looks like a trade market now
Then the amount of force that would've been needed to create the crater that it resides in would be almost be the level of the KT asteroid.
Yeah, that's probably what the spirits turned it to when they crashed.
Convert the wreckage into a home.
Dormant volcano caldera?
eruption
reika compares the location of cidadel to a volcano but idk if is one
I still think of Eden red rock rain as pyroclastic flow kinda
Eh no.
Couldn't it be like this:-
When the spirits couldn't find a way out of the desolate area they decided to deal with the situation and live there:-
- So that's why the scare spirit started growing crops.
- And that one spirit was gathering mushroooms
- One spirit was trying to make the water pure so that they could drink it.
- Thats why the muralist drew their story on the ship so that if anyone Comes, they could see what happened and help the spirits to go back.
a pyroclastic flow/cloud would be a massive smoke cloud hurtling at you like a freight train.
the spirits couldnt leave which is why they set up base there
Yeah.
they needed food and water for sustenance
Their only means of transport broke.
I still believe that the Krill you see on your way to the Ark played a part in the ship's plummet.
I think so too
isn't its our boat
i think it would be way more apparent in the murals if that was the case
There'd be no reason to draw a Krill on your own ship, AND to have a Krill ominously looming over the area if it meant nothing.
seems legit
i believe the krill was just roaming the area and/or blocking the spirits only means of escape
Did they eat so many fauna that the mantas fled and the crabs got crabby? (plot twist: mantas stole the green light that was keeping their land alive)
not attacking them directly
But then when the muralist was drawing their story, she must have drawn a krill attacking them
@desert sunyeah
otherwise why the krill is lost in clouds most probably becoz he was looking for them
True, but if the Krill just simply existed.. why draw it in the first place?
@desert sun that explains why they didn't go to that boat
@drifting heart maybe they never saw it before and where surprised and terrified?
i believe the krill had an impact on the spirits for sure, because it is an incredibly detailed drawing, i just don't believe it attacked them
Maybe..
Yes
Now this may be a stretch buuuut
The Krill is the reason they crashed in the storm.
Krill didn't attack them, but it was the like the same situation as when you see a deer in the road.
AND THEN THE DEER HITS YOU WITH LASER BEAMS
Is the krill in the clouds related to the krill in the first area becoz every krill has partners except that last one in eden
Here's how I see it.
Our crew is piloting through the storm, dodging the mountains and what not, when suddenly a Krill basically flies at them.
Maybe the main quest giver intentionally shot the lights with the catapult so that they would be safe from krills and hoped that some one (sky kids) Would come and return them?
The Ark swerves to avoid its charge, which they do.
But they swerve into the mountains.
The oars get damaged royally.
And the Ark flies off course into the ground.
But now that a Krill is there, they can't even rebuild and escape because that Krill might try and attack. It's blocking their only passage out.
i like that
This might be the season with the deepest story
sounds pretty solid to me !
@drifting heart nothing sound wrong! Feels great
they did say that this would be "the most impactful season yet
"
becoz its meh FIRST SEASON
🤗
Eh apart from season, i have a question, what are those rotating spheres in Valley orrey/citadel?

we call them "armillary spheres"
Ooff
@broken basin its a landmark in real world
i actually meant to bring them up before the season discussion
still flummoxed by why they had a literal boatload of luxury fabrics dyed in imperial colors
Oh you mean that weird globe thing with circles around it?
the area is called "citadel"
Valley is a city above the clouds, right?
here, ill pull up some lore for u guys in a sec 
Valley is a city high in the mountains.
@desert sunits called orrey as well
Like we're talking Kun Lai Summit levels of high.
orrey is it some sort of solar system model?
Yeh.
basically
Maybe it's a very highly developed city who tried to build models of dyson spheres so that they can harness the energy of their star.
Sounds legit
noo reika says they use the spheres to study the night sky
Ohhhh
Reika cant be wrong ofc
dysen sphere
its in the screenshot i sent
But one thing is clear, valley is a much much highly developed and technological City than any on earth.
oh for sure!
wasteland is its future
One last question from me
?

Nah, Westeland is like it is also because there was a War
After we hug that child in eden, we have to fly till we reach the orbit. In between we see the top part of vault with the vault elder statue in middle and all other 5 on the sides. Is eden related to vault??
ive seen that

see the thing about vault is that i always assumed that it doesnt take place on earth
We also fly through the clouds that seem to be from the Valley..
Also yeah, I've always suspected that the Vault is like.. a pocket dimension.
eden used to be a big city i think
Mantas
before everything got wrecked and torn down
@desert sun the vault directly opens from wasteland seems weird
@desert suni know that corrupt King theory lol
Don't forget in the Valley part of the flight to orbit there are also whales.
how could i forget
And eden directly opens from vault
Legit a Whale slams into a falling pillar as you fly so you won't get hit.
Yes
whales are my favorite
I wish there was a cosmic Whale call
That's another weird freakin' thing.
it look like yak
But the sounds never seem to correspond with the sound of the actual creature on which they are named after anyways!!
But COSMIC Whale look like an Anomalocaris!
thats because i dont think that big manta thing isnt a whale at all
i believe its some sort of elder manta
We're talking about the long boys in the vault.
the long boy, imo, is not a cosmic whale
And there shape is pretty similar to the actual Whale seen in Eden and forest
Yeah but the normal whales don't look like whales either.
Cosmic Creatures

They look like a Coelocanth.
there is a version of mantas that have extra pairs of wings growing in the back of it in prarie
The giant one that you ride to the prairie temple?
@desert sun those are their tails
there is a dark manta
I don't remember a dark manta.
mmm i wish i had screenshots
In the Vault there are
More like ... Space Mantas
They are officially called cosmic mantas
its hard to explain but if you compare some mantas to other mantas youll see that it looks like one has extra wings growing in the back
Oh wait... Maybe ya'll saw the video of the guy that edits some things on Sky
bruh... talking about hacks and hackers is against the rules @broken basin
Anyway the cosmic whale thing.
not hackers
Lol
One of the edited things was a Krill made as a Black Manta, serving the same purpose of the Krill
wait
I won't comment the name
They look really similar, minus the head
this
Oh I always wondered... What's the giant skeleton in Hidden Forest? A Krill?
i realllly wish i had screenshots of what i was talking about earlier
So many dark plants grows on it
ok ima go take some screenshots myself and dm it to yall so u can see what i mean
brb
That giant skeleton is supposedly a whale.
dying manta
Oh really? :0 because it's bones looks like the ones in the Graveyard

Yes but... Poor
ok im back
i have pics

so this is a regular manta right
pay attention to its tail
Yup
The giant ne, you can ride her

Oops

thats why i think that the large cosmic manta you ride in vault isnt a whale
its like an older manta/different version of a manta
the reason we probably havent seen a cosmic whale is because there is only one whale left in sky, and its the one we see in orbit
unless that isnt the case and there are multiple whales

I agree with your thought about the ‘cosmic whale’ being similar or the same as the cosmic mantas 
ye ye
i dont think that 

this would magically transform into a multi winged animal in cosmic form

The cosmic version of
(if it even exists) probably looks like a generic see-through, galaxy colored 
Just like how
looks compared to 
Aaaanyway, are there any other lore-related topics for discussion available? I love talking about sky lore

Wait.
The one you see on your way to the golden wasteland is the one you also see in your flight to orbit?
thats what i assume, yes
Aight.
Also here's a lore-related thing that's been wracking my brain..
There are your normal animals, your spirit animals, and your dark animals.
How are the dark animals existing?
Did they appear naturally or were they once normal creatures that got corrupted?
thats a question that plagues a lot of theorists minds
And if it's the latter.
I’m not sure. I’d assume they were just created as creatures of darkness because we don’t see any light crabs or dark mantas
What did things like normal dragons and spirit dragons look like?
heres what i think
i believe darkness is a natural part of skys world, as in it isn't something abnormal
Just like light
Wait actually that brings up another topic.
What if.
Spirit animals are the animals natural look.
And the Light/Dark versions are actually corrupted animals.
Hey i have a question not related to this
Light animals are animals corrupted by light, dark animals are corrupted by darkness.
@broken basin that’d be a question for #questions-and-help
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I believe that darkness can corrupt land, water, etc, but not animals. The animal’s opposite can kill or hurt it, but not change it. Light and dark animals are formed from light and darkness, rather than that animal changing sides through corruption
Then what would the spirit animals be?
The perfect harmony of light and darkness?
By spirit do you mean cosmic creatures
?
I can see why you're the "whale enthusiast", Dae. 
Yeh.
Spirit/Cosmic creatures.
i used to believe that spirit animals were like the light inside of animals given a body
like if you take the light away from a manta, the light forms a spirit manta
but i dont have much evidence to back it up 
And what, the husk becomes a dark manta?
I assume for the mantas, they become cosmic when they die (similar to what Dae said)
For jellyfish, I assume they may have been created by the absence of light in forest’s rain/water
Why there aren't any normal jellyfish
oh heres a fun lore fact: a sky animal leaves its bones behind when it dies unnaturally
= the primordial form of the creatures that exist, they are the raw energy given physical form.
= The light uses this energy, and makes it a Light creature.
= The darkness uses this energy, and makes it a Dark creature.
oh heres a fun lore fact: a sky animal leaves its bones behind when it dies unnaturally
@.EnragedTrickster#1750
The cosmic creatures may have formed from those bones when given light
Don't mind that I used a Krill head for the dark emote, that's really all I could use.
@young storm yah we can see that in vault When we do that manta call
Like how, in Vault, you can summon a cosmic manta from manta bones using the light manta call
Yeah that was what I was gonna say
Hehe you beat me to it
considering theyre called spirit mantas, thats not far from the truth
@young storm then where is the WHALE from the bones in Forest
Brb
the primordial energy given physical form.
maybe vault is the only place that spirit animals can manifest from bones
Hb jellyfishes
Again, refer to this.
= the primordial form of the creatures that exist, they are the raw energy given physical form.
= The light uses this energy, and makes it a Light creature.
= The darkness uses this energy, and makes it a Dark creature.
??
thats what i thought tallahasse but i dont know how to back it up
Well.
the only support i have for it is that when riding it it feeds you light
In the logic of physics, darkness comes before light. It always has.
Also the Jellies could be normal light creatures.
And Well, we all know what darkness creatures do when you ride them
But they look like cosmic creatures because, well Jellies are see-through.
i dont think they would design jellyfish specifically after the cosmic design for that reason
Yes
@young storm then where is the WHALE from the bones in Forest
@broken basin
We don’t have a whale call yet, so we can’t summon one from it’s bones
We have
You really only see them inside the vault after all.
That fish icon
What fish icon??
Yeh
Yeah that's the whale call.
Yup
From what I know, there are 6 calls:
Normal, bird, mask, manta, crab, and dark manta
That’s what I’ve gotten from their icons, at least
Mask??!
vault is one of the biggest mysteries from this game tbh
Whats mask?
Mask, the second call that looks like a mask
"dark manta" is spirit manta call
Its whale call
and thats the bird call
That looks like a fish
Yes
I might have gotten the order wrong
No mask call lol
Actually speaking about the animals.
Huh I always assumed that it was mask
What's the point of naming its mask call?
Also, is there any solid proof yet that those are whale bones?
Well
Does that mean there is a chance that there's giant versions of almost all the animals?
Cause it looked like a mask to me okay—
the skull is close replica of a whales face
The whale bones resemble that of a coelocanth.
Of which the "Whales" are based on.
No other creature, compelling enough, is there in sky other than the whale which we can relate the bones with
@drifting heartmaybe
That could be a possibility.
Maybe the whales Which we see are giant versions of normal Whales
trust me im an enthusiast
@young stormthen why do we get the whale call from it???
We do??? Oh
Yessssssssssssssss
Dae I really wanna know how much you've been theorizing about the whales XD
Sorry I’ve been playing sky since it was released. I forgot where each call comes from
there are 3 masks that are based on the whale, and when you compare those masks to the bones in forest, they are incredibly similar
Oh here's a question I have about the Elders..
Because the whales which we see are too big and the bones and cosmic whales are small compared to them.
Who is their leader?
Or all the elders the leaders and they worked in a council like manner?
I guess they have roles
Also, I went into sky to look at the icon, and it looks strikingly similar to any mask, so uh don’t get mad at me for mistaking it for a mask because it looks like a literal face, nose and all
i dont think there is a leader, and if there is it would probably be the eden elder
Does Eden even have an Elder?
yes
Really? I've never seen him when I did Eden.
But we've never seen what the Eden Elder actually looks like?
the intro cutscene is apparently ""the tip of the iceberg"" but there is so much to unpack in it 
and no not really, we have only ever seen concept art
BUT
Isle elder- the guider
Prairie elder- the preserver/caretaker
Forest elder-the blacksmith
Valley elders-the athletes
Wasteland elder- the warrior
Vault elder- the guardian
Me too
i uh, dont know where it is
ive seen it before tho
maybe i was thinking of the king?
idek anymore 
Do we know what the king looked like?
Prolly the elder is eden and we go into his eye .
Lol jk don't take seriously
OH WAIT
i remember
some mod once said that "there was once an eden elder, but now there is nothing left to save."
But is there concept art of him?
He was a corrupt king
ill look lmao
Also you guys wanna know why I brought up the idea of the giant animals?
Where
Imagine those butterflies you have on your hand.
..Now scale it up to the size of the manta you ride.
Sky's literal own Mothra.
Ummmmmmmmm
i think the eden elder may possibly be the same concept as the king
idk if they were 2 separate entities or what
He wanted to make his kingdom the best so he used dark energy and power of darkness to takeover light but i guess he went a little too wild and overboard with it and ended up destroying everything in his realm, filling everything with dark energy
I think the Redstones are a form of pure dark energy
Because they steal your light
Is anyone there???????????
Yeh I'm sorta jumping between here and The Isle's lore channel.
Oh
Whilst also rping in another.
He wanted to make his kingdom the best so he used dark energy and power of darkness to takeover light but i guess he went a little too wild and overboard with it and ended up destroying everything in his realm, filling everything with dark energy
@broken basin is that your theory? It seems similar to an old concept art that was scrapped
Dang now I wish I had the king's concept art!
Scrapped???
I wanna see what he looks like.
Yes... Unfortunately
@plush moon Do you have his concept art, or know where I could find it?
The quality is too good for my eyes to perceive
This timeline includes a technology vs nature plotline with the king eventually being corrupted by the darkness
Download it :I then zoom in that's what we have
But thanks anyways
Wait is that literally the only picture we have of the king?
Well it seems the plot point is still relavent. One faction of spirits seemed to have mined their way to a wasteland.
I see an eclipse over wasteland
And here is the scrapped Eden concept (see Prince)
Wait is that literally the only picture we have of the king?
@drifting heart no there's another one
Look at the sun
Its the crescent moon
I must see that kingy boi.
Well reading that
So bright?!!
I feel the eden diamond was used to harness darkness
But something happened and the entire realms were covered in darkness
Kinda like a nuclear accident
Maybe the vault one was different, she warned them all but they didn't listen, that's why she's always seen so sad.
i believe that the eden diamond was actually used to harness light instead
Instead of what?
Have u watched green lantern?
Maybe like that... Where they want to harness fear
Here they wanna harness darkness to convert it to light?!
I can't recall much to support that
i think its the opposite in sky's case
hence the whole
yknow
having to regain light
plants, crabs, krill
Are the elders immortal or Godlike beings?
Also the dev hinted that the Eden elder is dead dead
Plus we see the crown constellation but no elder
Their lives are prob tied to their temples or constellations
Hmm
But i> i think, im assuming
@low seal maybe they just lost their powers.. that's y we give light to them
they.. they did..
Besides their interactions take place outside of Space-time
They lost their light. Apparently their blue color signifies death
theyre spirits, theyre interactions are within the continuum
Spirits are dead I can say.. But I can't say the same for elders
hence the need to unlock each of them to open each realm
??????
what makes you say the elders arent spirits please elaborate
they are called elder spirits
Do u guys know why our souls are blue? When we use our wings we have a blue light. When we die in eden we have a blue soul. When we tap on a friend at home, they have a blue soul even tho they aren't dead
Maybe a spirit of a higher power
im assuming blue is just the color associated with the soul, its the same for the spirits pre ascension
yellow is the light, blue is the soul, black/grey is darkness
its still a spirit? meaning they've passed
if the elders were alive i feel like the cutscenes would be a lot different, as well as the game play
all things considered you summon the elder spirits in orbit when you complete the constellations
this is the canon lore for sky kids vs elders
thus far
the winged lights are past sky kids
I think we get sent into another universe once we complete ||Eden||?
we dont
Then?
you get sent to another plane
What's the purpose of giving the light?
a different universe would mean an entirely different timeline, thus a continuation that doesnt put you back at home as we know it
giving light to the shrines in eden?
Hmm
Yep
Are the statues us who died in previous lives?
And turned into statues
After giving light to the other statues
theyre sky kids who ran out of light from the storm in eden
the same thing happens to you as what happened to them if you watch the sequence
youre just reborn
Hmm
im assuming theres the "chosen one" dialogue trope for the player, but im not 100% on that
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