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You can see a seige precursor to cannons in the wasteland called a "catapult"
Or the vastly superior trebuchet
So vastly
Much torque
Very seige
@fluid patrol are you ask what Canon means or what is Sky's Canon?
Sky's Canon.
Ah, that's diffcult to discern, but there are some things we know for sure. First I'd recommend you check the pinned messages. Then focus one a particular subject
Ur Welkies
Also , if there is an elder for each kingdom... is there an elder for eden?
Actually I think the weapon is spelled canNon. There is a canon in music though. Like Canon in D
Thats my first thought 😂
In game, no. But there was in the concept art
yeah there was an elder for eden but he can’t be saved anymore
Aw ; v ;
what did he look like <:0 I've heard lots about him
i think there was only one concept of him
then was scrapped probably to match the story better
aww
There this one that I’ve seen https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632004389137154048/711613813190951002/133k_Sky.png
But now I feel like there is an uncompleted story ; v ;
because sky is the first chapter lmao
Like I'm just wondering, why the intro to sky said " if only they had listened..."
OH WHAT
yeah
if only they had listened probably meant to their mistake
yeah it’s only the first chapter sjshsv
DIGksjs292ns I've never been so excited .ooo.
I'm gonna bite someone
Can't wait to get weapons
o.o ??? FIGHTING KRILL!? .O.
Are the elders dead or they higher beings? I like to think they were higher beings but my friend had a theory they were dead concerning they were probably fighting some war based on the Wasteland having weapons and shields as well as some of them having cutscenes that can resemble fighting or helping a cause (Valley, Hidden Forest and Wasteland and possibly more but they haven’t played much of Sky yet ) I just wanted to know what you guys think 🤔
they’re not really dead
Maybe they can't actually die?
they’re stuck in a place away from space and time
the eden diamond’s explosion caused that imo
they can affect the world of sky from where they are
so they’re not dead just trapped
who trapped them there 
I wonder if they’ll use the Eden elder concept in another game 🤔 It’s probably unlikely but it would be cool
ikr
Can someone explain to me this image
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632004389137154048/711613813190951002/133k_Sky.png
That’s old concept art for Eden. It was going to be an awesome boss battle against the king of Eden
it looks more like king king than eden king
You could be right. Idk much about that tbh
me neither ngl zjshhddjd
It’s prolly in the pins somewhere 
theories are just theories so no gatekeeping here
livestreams have the most canon info so rip
Yeah. Wish I was around when they happened
samee
Concept art I’m guessing!
Yup it’s concept art posters for the realms
i like the flying race, i dont think its talked about really lore-wise
for starters it looks to be in a state of disrepair unlike a lot of the rest of valley
and its also filled to the brim with clouds
Above, really really above, I assumed that since valley was the peak of skykid civilizaiton, they probably would have had sports and entertainment and things
Valley isn’t peak of skykid civilization....
Did u read that somewhere or...?
I thought that the two racetracks could have been what they watched, but then why would a racetrack connect to the citadel?
@sly kestrel Like I thought it was the peak of skykid civilization
Valley was built wayyy way before skykids existed
Wait really?
Well not skykid civilization, like maybe sky realm before skykid death storm
Wait no
That came out wrong
That’s why everything is in ruin
Tons of years past after the events of the sky kingdom and that’s when we were sent
^^sorry I message didn't send through
could’ve been millenia since the kingdom fell
I was going to say that I'm calling skykid time AS (after storm)
so you mean ascension?
And the time before that Before Storm
But as you can see, the shortening of that is a bit innapropriate so...
i thought you were talking about after storm as in the journey to orbit
Haha no
jay no disappointment in this channel lmao
Like after the storm came and destroyed all
Whaaaat
No one disappointed meeee
and wrecked lives
Ah yes
Good idea Lyst
Okay so my point is, I was wondering why there would be a racetrack heading to the citadel
Okokok
Here’s basic timeline, after the storm and the events of the destruction of sky, we came in
So there’s no possible way valley would have any sort of involvement in skykids if they haven’t even existed yet
😮
sjdhdbddhhs
citadel itself wasn’t home to citizens it was mostly for scholars to study the sky
but the races were entertainment and stuff since adulthood and such
Now I’m a bit confused what ur asking
I'm not stating stuff
I'm just wondering why the citadel would be connected to the ice rink
I know XD
English isn't my first language
ey me too
gang
also idk how these places even connect
but it’s probably ice rink being the center of the realm
Yeah i think so too
And also do you think the pre-storm civilizaiton are super big or the same size as us?
citadel is very high in the sky so it trails off from the sliding race
hmmmm not too big
probably like 5 feet tall
...was there a bridge connecting the ice rink and the citadel then?
Id say the ice rink is sort of like the center of valley
Kinda like the bridge of different areas
Okay give me a sec I gotta do math
probabbly not a bridge but a boat
Needa convert feet to cm
Leading to 2 races and both filled with slum and a citadel
Okay so five feet is 152cm
So a little bit shorter than like an average sixth grader/seventh grader
mhm
Hm.. how high are the skykids?
though all the spirits are different in height so that’s just an estimate
2 feet - 3 feet
Yea i know
Skykids vary from height as well
mhm
But there’s pins if u want the heights
the reason is because I was wondering if the rink is actually a lake or something
Well
it is a lake
a frozen lake
Yeah
snshshshs puddle
XD I was just like, did pre-storm people really like ice rinks?
Well maybe
But then I'm like oh wait maybe it wasn't an ice rink and was actually like a fountain or apfdipk
Who knows it was prolly an ice rink when they existed
Height and an ice rink....
So like if they're giants then maybe it's like a fountain thing
Ooh wait do you reckon they used to fish there?
not rlly no
it’s pretty cold up there so i don’t think people would do much at the lake
did u kno the tilt of the armillary sphere at the citadel is the same as the tilt of the earth
FLEX TAPE
flex tape or flex seal should do lmao
also yeah i noticed it moved in one direction that i remembered in science class but i didn’t remember what it was
whats the next light?
orange
The ice rink is a lake, the enchanment season quest gave that away, the mountain lake where the blue light is
I thought it was made of glass because of the sounds
yalls probably seen this already but i cant tell if this is intentional lmao. it extends to one side of the ark
i cant find another
That before realizing there was another place under the surface AHAHAH
probably is
Like... Inside the Ark I kept hearing Krill noises
nyom those are probably visual bugs
foreshadowing
2 weeks!!
yep
I thought 1 :(
2 weeks for the next, then another 2 weeks for the last
Oh wait the next light is here! I just realised lol
Imma do it now
Super pretty
Thank you! @drowsy spoke
when does the event start?
The event? Which one
Also if this is about the season of echantment can we move it to the seasonal chat? This is supposed to be about lore discussion
Uh guys! Is this the right Place to talk about the Ark role? Or we consider that only as a seasonal thing?
yah go right on ahead
Oh no wait, someone in the seasonal chat is doing it already, is it okay if I wait them instead?
So if the speculations are the same I won't repeat the same text :3
i mean sure but its best to keep lore theories here bc if they type it there it could get drowned out pretty quickly by seasonal questions
especially since the purple light’s out
Oh! Okay then :3
So as the "mini trailer" said about the Ark and also as Jesus pointed out in the other section, we can see the Spirits going in a journey in order to find a place where they can find something important. In the murales it shows kinda the story it seems... Maybe the spirits travelled not under the Mountains (like we do while going to the Ark), but where the Krill fly around... And since we know how the Krills act, he probably cought them flying in his territory, damaging the Ark and making them fall off of It. The chief Spirit in order to save them lured the Krill to him and then we don't know what happened to him
That's it, idk if the theory will be correct or not :0
i mean if a krill attacked them then this woulda made sense
i said this before but im not sure if this thing is some landscape error or intentional
it woulda taken a massive krill to take down an ark this big
theoretically this wouldn’t have been the first time a ship’s been attacked by a krill
is it possible the same krill that attacked the ship at shipwreck attacked the ark as well 
do krills shed their antennas like how deers shed their antlers..?
i was thinking krill would thrive in the clouds since mantas manifest from them
probably?

i mean krills could thrive in the sky
but lol i always see them come out of the ground
like they burrow under or something
im just assuming that the krill in the ark area likes to be that dark dragon and sleeps in the mountains lol
if they
come from the ground
have they been hibernating to prevent energy loss
since with the downfall of the sky kingdom i’d expect their light source to be gone and they’d make themselves a burrow, hibernate and save their energy
or preserve that might be a better word
Can someone explain these lights in ark please
@sweet dirge looks like this

Just my wild guess, at the end of the season the spirits will be revived, with the power of fire breath life to the soul and become alive again! Hohoho
True that (about the Krill ones)
i feel like my suspicion might be true about the same krill attacking both the ship and the ark??
because red light can be found at both areas, and they’ve been kinda associated with light with the mural reveal
Omg never thought about that -
@drifting copper it wasn't a krill that attacked the shipwreck, the horns piercing it don't match krills
you've got a good idea, thinking about why those two areas have the red light though... The red light in the ark lingers by a pool of dark water and the entrance the a krab cave, the shipwreck light is directly beneath a krill path and above a krab nest... so the common denominators there are: a few krabs and corrupted water; so why doesn't the right side of graveyard have a red light as well?
oooo that’s interesting
does that mean there’s another thing they have in common that seperate other areas that share the same things?
Just my wild guess, at the end of the season the spirits will be revived, with the power of fire breath life to the soul and become alive again! Hohoho
@pearl void hohohooo
Random thought, do skykids have photographic memory with how many emotes they memorize?
Isn’t it weird how eden tells us what’s the time? Every detail matters right
@sturdy gate
I know this is a bit late to ask but...
Can you please elaborate what do you mean by time?🤔
It makes a bell sound at reset for example
Hm wait does sky time match our time?
I don't think there's day or night in sky actually
There is actually :0
REally?
home is a weird place
Like... In evening the sky change and also at night
@drowsy spoke a place where they can play around I guess
What is this office everyone talks about?
And like an endless ocean
You mean after watching a constellation?
No no I mean like day and night in general
Like it's always dark in the foreswt
Always bright in Prairie
is there a day and night or...?
Oooh!
Hmm.... I guess not, plus remember that the forest is not dark as if it's night, it's dark because it rains :3
I know
dunno but the realms’ names were based on day and night
True that

Heyyooo forgotten ark theory?? 😬
being in the lore chat really helps with the weekly light quest lol
the moment i saw "ancient secrets" thats when i knew
What's this?
i have a weird theory lol
sorta about the forgotten ark
i think this is a good place to post my theories??
i believe that possibly by the end of the seasonal thing after you get all the coloured orbs that something bad will happen.
why? because
when you're on the boat to the forgotten ark, if you turn aroumd after the boat washes up against the ground you can see a krill circling the mountain
my theory is that slowly the area will get more n more dangerous, if that makes sense?
this only popped into my head because i dont remember seeing the krill before
Maybe it is the destroyed because the orbs all combined attracted the krill
hmmm
it could be forest or wasteland, or just for scenery
but knowing this game it's never just scenery
my guess is that it's just forest or wasteland,
maybe wasteland since it's all sandy hills and whatnot
Wasteland is below valley, we fall down from above after go through the end of valley
Forest is also below valley at the end of forest remember we fly up to valley among the mantas
So that island can't be wasteland and forest
ahh, thank you for clarifying that error!
Why did they rename the krills into dark dragons though aren't they sorta two different things which can bring new meaning to the lore?
we name em krill because they are quite literally based off shrimp
Krill was the old beta name for dark dragons iirc
oo really!! TIL
@fading plover because Krills are literally Shrimps AHAHA
Do anyone know or speculate what animal are these bones?
possibly squids 🦑
Krill was a fan name that became official for a little bit
🤔 I think that it could be a whale
There were no names for them outside of dark creature when beta first started
What does lore say about the Warrior ancestor?
So many questions
Which one shall I answer 🤔
Lore wise we don’t know what the creatures are for sure
And the warrior ancestor
Well there’s a lot to that
How much
Jay, professional liar is typing...
(you forgot the joker card)
breh
In his vault cutscene mural, he was seen to tower over his troops by being the tallest height, and as u already know, the elders are extremely tall
But if u look at the battlefield, u can see that the weapons there are HUGEEE. Elder sized weapons that looks as if only the warrior elder could wield them, but there’s only 1. So this can lead to many theories, such as a new race of people besides the spirits we’ve seen, or the spirits somehow manipulated their height, or.......idk, ur choice to see what u wanna believe
🃏
Hm.
resize potion, for elders?
There is only 1 wasteland elder
Maybe being able to resize his army?
You know one of the 2 player doors in the prarie village? There is a boat model in there and it looks a lot like the one for ark. Does anyone know what that is
Yes?
I believe he was a boat designer, in his workshop he sculpted the simple model and then they would build that model
But the ark...
Oh okay
Idk about that
Hm just wondering
Praire was towards older times and the ark is something that came when the scholars existed, which was later later on
So my guess is that the boat designer at praire didn’t create the ark
Okay
So hm
Yeah, I don’t tihnk he created the ark, but maybe they all had similar boats for some reason
All the realms are 1 civilization
So their older boat models could’ve lasted all the way to later times, jus simple and slight changes overtime
I dunno whether the weapons are nec’ly oversized; I just figured they were pike-type polearms (rl pikes are like 10-25 feet long)
quick ques, is there a reason why some areas naturally recharge your cape (like in the valley chapel or the area in daylight prairie with the broken towers)
The shield is literally the size of the spirit standing up
And one spear
Is like 2 or 3 spirits
I wish I could rewatch spirit stuff in game
U can
Pinned messages
Well i mean... big shield = more protection
quick ques, is there a reason why some areas naturally recharge your cape (like in the valley chapel or the area in daylight prairie with the broken towers)
@noble sandal its probably because of the birds in the area or the armillary spheres
i think its the birds bc the spheres were used for researching the sky
but you never know
Wait weren't the kingdoms united? The other Elderlyies were behind the ultimate Elder (the one of Vault)
@steep coyote yup! OaO they were all connected. I just realized how all the realms were enemies with each other or sometin ;;—;;
Btw i think that the winged lights are staring up at the eden mountain
And that just makes me rlly sad ;;—;;
Get what?? OwO
That the winged light was looking towards the eye of Eden
Yeah, cause of the cutscene near the end and the way their facing when you find them
@steep coyote im not sure qaq but the relationship between wasteland and vault doesnt seem to be enemies. Maybe they just—
Fell apart or something
I think they are just different, like... The Westeland is in not in a High place like Valley
@unreal wind yuppa! It makes my heart cry whenever i see a winged light now TaT
They want to be freeeeeee
The winged light shown as a four pointed star when you lose it after you pick it up makes a lot of sense too. Cuz the winged children are supposed to be ascended to stars
Now I'm crying
They’re basically like fallen stars in a sense
Which by the looks of it could be real
@steep coyote I guess so!
I kinda ship vault mom and Wasteland dad because it rlly looked like Wasteland dad was protecting The vault.
Someone once proposed the headcannon that When wasteland was being corrupted by the krills and dark stuff—
The dark stuff passed to battlefield. And as name says, Wasteland dad fought the Dragons and Crabs there. he couldnt defeat the darkness, so he Locked away the doors to the Vault. As a last attempt to Protect the vault.
And with how close Vault and wasteland is xD it striked me that the two elders are close as hecc
Vault Elder is a girl...? I thought it was a dude
Now that i think about that— i cant unsee vault mom as vault dad now :”D
@hushed steeple That makes sense considering how close the krill got to going into the entrance in the cutscenes near the elder
I agree with the part of the Elder fighting the darkness, It makes a lot of sense
Now that i think about that— i cant unsee vault mom as vault dad now :”D
@hushed steeple
AHAHAHAHAH MY BAD
There’s also a chance that the Wasteland elder is protecting the knowledge from the darkness, but since the elder has been gone the darkness crept in and destroyed some parts of the vault.
@unreal wind it makes me applaud The developers who designed battlefield.
When you light the pillar and trigger the cutscene. You feel the same rush that The wasteland elder mightve felt at that moment. He knew he’s gonna lose. He’s gonna die. He cant fight them.
You can feel the same desperation to get into the temple. I love the storytelling so much
@unreal wind hngg— that wouldve explained the corrupted elevator!! QaQ the elders really had it brutal
Wait they dont???
@steep coyote Are you glitching through the gate?
QaQ a a a a a lUCKY BUG
Not to me, yet to my sister they happeared
oh! Yeh— the glitchin through is rlly sky kid friendly xD no krill = no one getting attacked
@unreal wind I don't think so
Then idk
Defeneatly a bug ;;—;;
Theres a slight moment before the krills come out
Because I have fear they can chase me
Like after the gate opens, thatd when the krills pop up one by one
I become Speedy Gonzales
You won’t see the krill if you run through the cutscene
I saw it from my sister but I didn't unlocked the CG
Ahahaha
And everytime I run there I won't encounter them
Thats better than getting caught qwq the amount of time the camera is out of your control is frustrating TaT
EXACTLY
Ive learned how to Farm wax in battlefield with the krills out because i got so hecckin tIRED of gEtting cAUGHT IN THE CUTSCENE QAQ
I won't come to the Westeland except if I need to go to the Ark
Wasteland is rlly scary qaq
I wish we could smooch the krills tho
That would be fun
Flex your immortal i t y
Aa gtg to sleep now qaq
Gnightt gnightttt.
Thanks for today qwq
Mhm
Goodnight sweetie, sleep well 
Sooo reading up on really big weapons in history, I’ve found some interesting discussions about how the Macedonian-style phalanx formation, which depended on everybody charging forward with 4-6m spears, ultimately lost out to the Roman testudo formation where each legionary carried a huge shield and a short sword
IOW the long pikes and body-length shields could be reasonably assumed to belong to opposing sides which gets back to the civil war theory
diamond kite shields vs sunburst buckler shields?
there are both swords and spears in Wasteland, though admittedly not shortswords by any stretch
This is different, there’s no way they can even walk with it
I checked earlier
The shield is taller than a spirit
Roundish bucklers were also carried by archers, whose weapons tend to decompose except for arrowheads— maybe the tall shields weren’t meant for walkabout and were closer in function to the barricades?
maybe spirits have superhuman strength
or the artist had a fondness for epic battles with large weapons, in which case, respect because me too
Meanwhile looking uphill from the final approach to Stadium, there’s a nice view of how both the flying race (right) and sliding race (left) were originally part of the same metropolis, and that the latter area was more protected from whatever blasted apart the other side and the central/upper section
though that doesn’t explain why the two gashes in Stadium don’t directly line up with Eden (second pic is standing on one side of the big gash behind the winged light; Eden is kinda diagonally across over the other side of the gash; the offset is like 11’o’clock vs 12’o’clock)
Maybe some of the spirits were as large as the wasteland elder
Meanwhile looking uphill from the final approach to Stadium, there’s a nice view of how both the flying race (right) and sliding race (left) were originally part of the same metropolis, and that the latter area was more protected from whatever blasted apart the other side and the central/upper section
though that doesn’t explain why the two gashes in Stadium don’t directly line up with Eden (second pic is standing on one side of the big gash behind the winged light; Eden is kinda diagonally across over the other side of the gash; the offset is like 11’o’clock vs 12’o’clock)
@celest spoke so you think something blasted apart the flying race?
Yup
I have a not very important question... Why is this vase different from the others. It stands out a lot
It was something leftover from beta
U were supposed to find that pot for a....quest I think
Oh, i tried to break it..
?
What's with these leftovers ;-:
Idk, It didn't work XD
Yup
@sly kestrel what's ur theory on that
Idk, It didn't work XD
@weak lion yeet it on the floor
@plush moon it can't be pushed and stomping on it doesn't make anything either. I tried to break it just because it is what i do with vases in another game
Telekinesis
It's what I'm doing in the screenshot @plush moon
Ye ik 😂
On the same subject of pottery
In the prarie elder temple u can see large pots
They are too big for the small boats around the map
Yet in the wasteland shipwreck I don't see em
@sly kestrel do u have a theory on those gold things
I actually have a theory for the big pots! I think that people destroyed the ones that were going to wasteland and the shipwreck is the only ship that did it to the coast, but there were more in the past. They are under the sea
There was a war in wasteland, so destroying whatever that made the opponent stronger was important @plush moon
So Eden was against wasteland? @weak lion
@plush moon i'm not sure
My current thinking is that Eden, valley, and vault were neutral - prarie and isle and forest were light - wasteland was diamond
I assume that wasteland lost and turned to light
Eden decided to make the big power diamond to restore unity after the war
While vault tried making their own light creatures @weak lion
prairie, forest and valley are diamond
the others are mostly neutral or have their own way
What's your reasoning for Prairie
vault is a dreamn sequence though so anything there is things that no longer exist
Lofi
prairie is a supplier for forest’s and wasteland’s diamond production sites
I told u my theory about it before
:D?
I'm a bit new to this game, I'll keep an eye on all that stuff
Maybe Wasteland wasn't the one fighting, but the fight took place there anyway
yeah
Ill check
Jus look at our dm, you’ll see it
it could’ve just took place there
Ooo yeah I get it
But it doesn't make sense for prarie to be diamond and valley too
There's only one battlefield?
I tough eden was a battefield
nah eden was the original home
elders dispersed from there and built their own sections in the kingdom
I would think that prairie would disagree with wasteland using mega mantas not butterflies
oh have you not noticed the murals 
Some of em
you can find some of them hinting at the fact that prairie sends mantas, birds and butterflies to forest
from the pot design you could probably tell it’s like prairie’s pots
the forest temple door also tells about the diamonds and the things used to make them
Ye forest uses mantas but wasteland skeletons show mantas much larger than we have seen bigger than any pot
There is those pots at the forest temple
oh those skeletons aren’t mantas
I saw the manta concept art
the skeletons are whales i believe?
reika said they were based on turtle skulls but we’re pretty unsure about what creature it could’ve actually been
They were inspired by whales :/
Well about whales...
the whales not really?? they have a different structure (forest whale skeleton)
they also said that skeletons are a result of an unnatural death
Forest never used the mantas

Their resemblance is based on reference only
Forest never used the mantas
@sly kestrel didn't the forest temple have a diamond press thing with a manta drawing going inside of it?
And there’s no possible way the graveyard was filled with mantas
And no
That’s another symbol
then why are there mantas trapped in the temple
Then why there is a lot of mantas in the temple’s window?
...
Old pictures but yea.....it’s a different symbol
It doesn’t exactly represent forest using mantas for their diamonds
And jus bc they come out a window doesn’t mean they were trapped inside the window
Idk my pictures show two exits maybe both exits opened
...
Any thoughts on connecting whale cave to lore, like if the butterfly shaft was essentially another elevator? Or all those lil dead-end areas behind doors?
Harp
It's decoration :'V
?
Ok so anyways
I can’t find much connection to the green forest cave at all actually
About whales...
Does anybody saw them depicted on walls?
It came out in the season of belonging and there’s scattered pots of light inside there, so it leads to a lot of confusion as to why they are there
My only guess is that the cave was sort of like a secret place to help smuggle pots underground or something but I rlly don’t know
Forest is weird, lore-wise— like the treehouses being skykid-sized, and what purpose could they have had?
Ye no ladders
Ehhh I think a spirit could fit in there
Idk how a spirit interacts with a mushroom
They gather them and playfight (ark mushroom spirits)
??
Where did mushroom come from, I thought u guys were talking about the forest
And sidera, idk if ur joking or not but that’s not what happened
Lofti prolly meant the shelf fungus ladders
Ye
Oooh those mushrooms
I'll just call them fungus....
Idk but they can die
Whelp then mushrooms will go extinct
Hello
Mushrooms just did go extinct we saw them die 😦
ASHH U CANT HIDE FROM MEEE
What if the mushroom actually can kill the spirit
Like when one of crying emotes spirit trapped between the mushroom
That was a dark plant
And.....actually idk why there was a dark plant there but I don’t think he got trapped between it like that. It’s something that happens occasionally in some spirit memories. They have an average memory picture and then all of a sudden there’s this dark plant that surrounds them
Ash idk if ur still here lurkin but if u are
I jus wanna say hi 
It’s probably because that spirit was slowly losing his light. The dark plant started growing on him, eating away at his light.
Lmao if Ash had an alt account
Heheh hi too, curennly obsessed with sky story telling that still ambiguous 😅
Cry spirit was just sitting there watching her friend get eat by plant
She does have an alt
Lost its purpose I suppose
She uses it often
I am here 
I mean how does dark plant catch manta for that matter
Dark plants showing up in memories is kinda confusing, so I don’t pay much attention to it
D:
You are here
Showing up like Ash here my god
The manta probably got caught in dark plant because of how fast it was growing?
@celest spoke
Also I dunno if this thing already been discussed before,
but what is the reason why the elder get ditched from eden
And why it always get trapped?
Like there is the same totems in vault and eden
I wanna ask some tiny questions but I feel bad that it always seems like I’m using ash and reika as lore machines
I’m friendly too 😖
Wait wdym ditched
Here's mine not much better
It probably didn’t make the cut. And the Eden Elder or “King” probably doesn’t fit the concept?
There's an elder missing
Maybe it's like a pyramid
I don’t see it
What elder is missing?
Based on power
I don’t know. It seems all the elder Tombs are there (I call them tombs)
Even Isle elder
But elder door doesn't show isle :I
Yea
There is still 6 symbols on the door
XD
I would send u the paragraph of mirian explaining that it’s jus an old beta model but
I’m assuming
I feel like there’s another reason as to why isle gramp isn’t there
Yeah my favorite bearded elder
I just wish his accessory was a mask not a beard :(((
Lmao
Back then that door would represent all the levels contributing to opening the gate
And isle didn’t count bc it wasn’t rlly a level, it was more of a tutorial
But my question is why they haven’t changed it yet if it was a beta model
Ah..
Ash if ur here, I gotta ask u something
It’s rlly important
It’s so important
That it’s important
Who are you talking to?
She may be still here
And tends to stalk this chat every now and then
she’s lurking
Know what I realized?
Know how when a nuclear bomb goes off, it often leaves imprints showing what people were doing before they unknowingly died. I think that’s why we find the last states of the spirits when we finally light them. That’s what they were doing before they died.
For example the stand-proud stance was what that spirit was doing before she and her child(??) perished
If that's the case then there would be souls everywhere :I
THATS WHAT I SAIIIDDD
Oof then sorry
Like pOMPEII WHERE THEIR ASH BODIES WERE LEFT BEHIND
What no
Don’t be sorry I’m jus agreeing with you
I think it's the spirits without graves
eden power diamond explosion
Ooooh shoot—
It probably could be from the mass shockwave from the explosion of the ultimate power diamond
eden power diamond explosion
@cold steppe wouldn’t it have destroyed all lifeform (plants included?)
however, some of the Prairie spirits were in the process of building the temples
so were they killed right then?
hi ash
@wide root plants can grow back
I had to step away! what was your question : o
hi wren!
also you guys sound like youre on an interesting discussion topic dont let me stop you 👀
It could have been a dark explosion.. that ended up wiping out creatures of light..?
jayyyyy
It’s okay!
Maybe I don't see many skeletons tho
I don’t know.. let’s just call it sky logic haha
Maybe they were just "thanos-snapped"?
Thanos-snapped by the all powerful diamond
War casualties
Thanotized for your protection
salute spirit buried his own crew : (
horns yeah
I saw this in the ship? Do u think it caused the wreck?
The tombstones are shaped like a cross btw butterfly jars and lanterns DO TOMBSTONES PROJECT SPIRITS AT US
Not really
I think we make graves for them?
i don’t know what kinda sea creature would have those kinds of horns 
Whales...
Or they find their own graves? After we free them
though the same creature that took down the shipwreck must’ve took down the ark as well
because the red light is at both areas
Whales (again)
the whales don’t have horns that look like a wafer jiggler
I was searching the ark area for krill horns but don’t think found any yet (other than mural krill and gateway krill)
Still they are able to destroy a building
also they’re pretty passive so they won’t attack things like that
Does someone knows if they see well?
No idea
no no one knows
And dam they hurt wen you touch them
we can’t go assuming things though they’re kinda just vibing at this rate
Vs using sound/smell/heat detection?
i feel like heat detection fits krills
Light detection
Hm... anyone know if krill attack a burned-out skykid?
Fffffffffudge
yeah they will
hmmm yeah they still detected me
no mercy from the krill..
they have no arms! they hug with the face!
It doesn't understand consent tho
Like dogs
well they’ve been hibernating underground so we gotta teach them
only hug with consent 
Omg so krills are dogs and krabs are cats ya
hmm... crabs are maybe just smaller dogs
Krabs are... playing tag
Krabs wiggle their butts and hiss before attacking
oh true
But I still can’t flip my cat with deep honk (sigh)
i think a cat would probably try and hunt a moth tho
Hey has anyone ever done a compilation of all cutscenes and light art (the art on various objects that seems to tell parts of the story) for research purposes?
The ark has a krill depicted on it...
Hey has anyone ever done a compilation of all cutscenes and light art (the art on various objects that seems to tell parts of the story) for research purposes?
@zealous delta check pinned messages there r good research resources there
(I think he wanted photos and videos, like a visual archives so we don’t have to go in the game to see them)
Ye but I don't think what they want exists so I just sent em an alternative
Does anyone remember what the prairie boats look like
Looks like sculpted stone
Exactly
Yet the mural shows them flying somehow
And why are they there?
They're prob carrying butterflies but why
Because they are not flying anymore
Those spirits must’ve had tremendous amounts of light to use it
Maybe its the butterflies that makes them float
The mural shows them carrying fallen stars
Maybe it was the merchandise
But I doubt butterflies carry it bc the mural didn't show then and boats are much heavier than skykids
We can only assume that the boats could float on clouds
I doubt butterflies can carry a child...
And they used the clouds as the sea
They could be carrying pure light...?
Butterflies can litteraly carry you
They can
But the mural doesn't show any butterflies
Dots dots dots
.-. those are stars
Which brings us back to the point that the boats just floated on clouds like sky kids
Then why do some boats have power diamonds
Stone boats floating on clouds...
For their paddles?
The automatic paddles
And I don’t think it’s stone tbh.. I think it’s made of the same wood as the trees in Forest
The trees seems brighter still
"Light"
Can we test the sounds of us landing on the boat and the trees?
Or it could be the sand.. but maybe I’m thinking too deep
Sedimentary rock?
Hmm maybe
Not really
Brb I’m gonna check out the sounds
If it’s sedimentary and made out of sand it would be the same color
Ash u took too long so I decided to do my homework and make a sandwich
But if ur still here
I was jus wondering if u guys had the entire sky lore planned out and done. Bc I’ve noticed that there are new lore details being added occasionally in updates, and the ark seemed like a wholeeee new different topic outta nowhere
this would help a lot with my theories as well
Is the entire sky lore story planned out already?
Or are you guys still creating the story and adding more things as you develop.
JUST SAY IT
Sorry if it seems rudes but let’s go strait to the point: people can see older messages
My bad
Jus got bad WiFi
Quarantine issues
My entire fam is using the WiFi including computers and iPads, so it’s wayyyy way slower
Ur question is a good question jay
And the leftovers from beta I feel like they need to be cleaned up :/
I might have overreacted at that...
No worries let's restore the chill vibes
Confuzzled with what just happened but you may be right about the boats being made of stone. They make a thud sound when you land on the boats and the trees make a *clop sound.
:0 I'm impressed u know the difference
I’m so obsessed with the soundtrack in the game—
It’s weird to see someone cut a tree
It’s so realistic and I love it
Why would he do that, if not for making boats?
I don’t know..
I keep on hearing the first 5 seconds of the home song and it gets annoying sometimes
Rip
Yeah I just saw this
Liquid light hehe
Maybe both
If butterflies can't lift their jars, they probably can't lift a boat, so it seems unlikely that they are the source of power
But how then can they make us float?????
Cuz they maybe activate the light inside us
The jars seems to be made of stone as well, which could be much heavier than us as we can't move them?
yea... they seem connected to little blue diamonds like the ones that activate doors
There is a diamond at the base of each one
Powered by the diamonds
Same with the boat we take to the ark
And what makes the platform in the observatory floating?
The diamond
Exactly
Yayaya
there is levitation and telekinesis magic-- the diamonds could be concentrated sources of this?
Technically it’s the light but the diamonds allowed the civilization to harness and put the light to good use like solar panels except it’s diamonds
We power them with our light. The diamonds are like batteries
Or solar panels idk
Yep this guy
It’s been discussed in previous conversations in this chat haha
oooh! imagine the boat that powers! 
The boats or the eye?
oh rip
*light
We have linked two ideas together!
Also who else thought that the purple light would fix the forgotten ark 😦
To make houses for Valley???
I’m guessing
The houses seem like stone too though?
there is levitation and telekinesis magic-- the diamonds could be concentrated sources of this?
@craggy nexus this seems interesting but I think this is not the case because because we know the process of power diamond production and that magic is less widespread than diamonds
Stone and metal
Then that’s when we question what the trees are in the world of sky...
Do they even have leaves
Maybe the things that were made of wood rotted away
@craggy nexus this seems interesting but I think this is not the case because because we know the process of power diamond production and that magic is less widespread than diamonds
@plush moon boats are widespread, still...
Because I think everyone knows the trees are just huge pillars with no leaves only clouds
Maybe sky has sorcerers?
Little blue diamonds into the lanterns...
the vault has glowy trees which are smaller, and ark has smaller trees in more normal tones
Everywhere!
Dang.. the civilization thrived off of light
I think the vault deals with making holograms like with trees and light creatures
whispers: then the darkness came
Still... you can touch the creatures
Exactly they give u light
Trees there are solids
I think the vault created the spirit mantas and the vault tree
Stone pillars
:( why can't the trees be umbrellas
Yeah
oh yeah! those have cloude too
Their leaves are litteraly clouds!
That’s what I’ve been saying—
:I or the clouds cover em
There’s no logic to the trees
No
Literally land on top of a tree and you’ll see it’s just a flat pillar
Yes there is one: they are solids and sounds like wood
? Where in the game did u do this?
Did what?
Bc if it's out of bounds then u can chalk it up to efficiency
Forest’s clearing where the rain stops
If you fly high enough with friends then you can land on a tree
It’s not oob either
I'll go check
It’s out of bounds
So u saying that the trees in sky are hollow?!
Bruh—
If we go under one it's not hollow
Then that doesn’t explain why the trees have clouds as leaves
Hollow like a jar...
Do u think there's a reason why fungi like to stick with it
Decomposition
Theese kinds of mushrooms (by the form, i just presume) are usually parasites
Knowing that bioluminescent mushrooms do exist
Take two details and merge them into one
So maybe the trees are dead
And i tough of that...
Maybe they are extracting the light from the trees?
Oh, I remembered a thing made of wood!
aren't the boardwalks between the two trees in the sunny forest area wooden?
And sounds as wood
...
Probably, yes
Wich made me think...
Why trees aren’t burning?
I mean
the trees were used to make the diamonds too
There is a firecamp in one of them in the sunny forest
they’re not really wood trees they could be hollow rock or something
petrified wood, maybe?
Weird
they don’t even sound like wood actually it sounds like it’s hollow inside
petrified wood, maybe?
@craggy nexus ye it reminded me of that
Sooooo if trees are made out of stone...
Maybe the thanos snap killed em
i love the dinner table in sunny forest though it reminds me of belonging
... it explains how they made the boats
And the boardwalk doesn't go anywhere
@plush moon it goes at that yellow glowing child
The boardwalk could just be some sort of treehouse maybe
It's pathetic
...
The boardwalk could just be some sort of treehouse maybe
@craggy nexus I don't think they would build it for a glowy child to be there
Maybe the rest of it collapsed into the clouds...
hmm wood petrification requires the wood to be buried in sediment... that doesn't seem likely in this case
Maybe the wave of darkness killed it
True
It’s a long and complex chemical reaction that leads to the formation of petrified wood
And also a bit of physical force, just a little bit
But this is a world where butterflies can make u fly up
I tough they made you activate your flight powers...
Like maybe light is like their food
But then the darkness choked em
I tough they made you activate your flight powers...
@wide root take what i said literally
the butterflies let us borrow their light dhdhdhdj
And we never return it :D
they’re light itself so they’re alright and don’t need food
But then the darkness choked em
@plush moon like an ash cloud after a volcanic eruption
They help us if only crabs can attack krill
the crabs are vibing and they hide away from krill
Maybe krab and krills do the same job as the butterfly
Think mathematically
Butterflies gives you (for example) +10 points
Krills gives you (another example) -10 points
They still both give
Butterflies help us, and in return, we help the krabs
Who knows
It might be painfull for the butterflies to help us
I think it's what the butterflies were meant to do.
since they're made from light ( and assumably from birbmama ) they don't have "bodies" to feel pain (sky kids have bodies and light). I assume when we absorb them, they're taken into our flame like any fire.
------Topic change-----
"I have bedimm'd, The noontide sun, call'd forth the mutinous winds,
And 'twixt the green sea and the azured vault
Set roaring war: to the dread rattling thunder"
What did shakespeare mean by this? Was he predicting Sky? What colour cape do you think he'd have?
Ooo literary analysis I have to do an essay on that
I can guess what he meant but ur questions...??? What do you like expect??? 1) I think he was describing a noontime sea storm (disrupting the peace - mutinous, roaring war, dread rattling thunder) . 2) no but I can see some similarities in the imagery and sky scenery 3) Honestly I have no idea of his personality soooo .-. no idea @undone steppe
Thank you for taking my absurdity seriously
Might be interested in the lines before
"By moonshine do the green sour ringlets make,
Whereof the ewe not bites, and you whose pastime
Is to make midnight mushrooms, that rejoice
To hear the solemn curfew"

Thank you for taking my absurdity seriously
@undone steppe I wanted to laugh and slap myself
I bet he would have a red cape. Seems fitting
O @sonic urchin I like ur username
If u see the whole thing it's a troll move lolol
It doesn’t really matter (or i hope so)
Well, say it anyway. This chat is dead. Doesn’t matter if it’s important or not
Also, after some thought, @undone steppe I’m thinking Shakespeare would have a dark blue or red cape
Oh?
"By moonshine do the green sour ringlets make, (moonlight shines on rippling pond surface)
Whereof the ewe not bites (ewe gently sips water), and you whose pastime
Is to make midnight mushrooms, that rejoice
To hear the solemn curfew" (making dinner like a mushroom soup with the water from the pond)
@undone steppe
Ooh which play is that from? Do you know?
Nope
Ooh which play is that from? Do you know?
@sonic urchin Google search lol Shakespeare
True. I’m just lazy
Yes. I believe it’s six of each? Actually I’ve never counted 
Anyway, back on topic, I read a little while ago that maybe the reason the trees are all broken is because of whatever landed and died in the last scene of forest. That might’ve also been the reason the cry spirit’s cave got caved in
O u r talking about the whale
Ye
So there's broken trees :D????
Yeah. That’s the theory I subscribe to at least.
Also, someone said maybe whatever is in the rain that drains our light is what petrified the trees? Not sure about that though. Don’t know enough about the science behind it
Why pay attention to the science?
True. Science doesn’t really apply to sky. In a lot of ways
Also, someone said maybe whatever is in the rain that drains our light is what petrified the trees? Not sure about that though. Don’t know enough about the science behind it
@sonic urchin was the guy on this server?
Yeah. Only place I really get any lore stuff
Hmm. Interesting. I wonder if they are more like horseshoe crabs then?
Hmm. Interesting. I wonder if they are more like horseshoe crabs then?
@sonic urchin not really their legs are longer
True, but it’s kinda the only reason it would make sense to calm them crabs
Not bad actually. I honestly don’t know what they are. Horseshoe crab is the closest I can get
