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Haha yeah right after that I just said that I'm not sure what the something is XD
No because above above, like 50+ messages above, there were long posts about theories like hurricanes and diamonds I was reading
And then I jumped down to say that we did a something because I feel like we have just found something important, though I'm not sure how the something works
It's like a feeling, you would say
Haha it's fine
It was actually discussed in a livestream
That door led to the archives, a place at vault that held forbidden secret knowledge
I don't really watch sky livestreams and I don't know how so Xd
And the belonging spirit was able to break in
Due to decay and years of ruin, he got in
That’s what I was told
He snooped in there
Also Jay can I ask if you're a professional liar or not?
I'm sorry I've wanted to ask that for so long XD
Ooh okay good
Because you know a lot of good information and I wouldn't want that to all be lies
After all, the point is to make ppl believe ur theories
Not lie ur way through everything 😂
Haha oh good
Why butterflies and birds are the only not marine based animals in sky universe?
So like
I'm just new here. But who carved the closets at social places
Like we've established that we're different from (long dead) humans?
We woke up on the isle of dawn, but it seems the boatman elder was kind of expecting us...
It has a light catcher so do you think we're some byproduct?
Why butterflies and birds are the only not marine based animals in sky universe?
@torn silo i dont know! thats actually something ive considered for a bit. at first i assumed that flight based animals were light creatures and marine creatures were dark, but that was just me forgetting that mantas were actually marine animals. ever since then i havent thought about it
I'm just new here. But who carved the closets at social places
@undone steppe some people speculate that there was actually a different version of skykids that came before us. like a first generation of skykids, sent with the same mission as we do
that theory covers the invention of social spaces and also covers what exactly the statues in eden are
but all we have are theoriess
Imo Sky mantas look more like birds or aircrafts than real manta rays

i can see the aircraft thing but not the bird thing
it looks def more like a manta to me
.. its been a bit since i saw a manta actually lemme look it up 😂
like a hawk gliding
its the tail that makes it look more manta like
imo it looks more like a stingray than a manta
to me the tail is making Sky mantas look less like sea rays
it's broad and thick
and the wings too, they are long and slim and do look like wings
The one marine-animal-ish feature of Sky mantas is that they do not have legs
hmmm im looking more at the aesthetic
i think its probably meant to be taken the same way as
this is not a whale
don't think the names are definite
?
sorry ig I didn't get wat you meant
its okay i didnt either
i need to word things better
We shouldn't guess the sky mantas are marine animals only because they are called "mantas"
So I have not been talking about the names, I was just saying Sky mantas does not really look like marine animals to me
ahh i see i see
They look a bit like manta rays so I am not complaining about the nomenclature either
i think the conversation was more "sky creatures are based on marine animals"
yeah, and imo sky mantas were probably not based only on a marine animal
so youre saying theyre more designed around birds or something ?
probably, but it's just my opinion tho
yeaa i can see that
especially considering manta rays probably dont flap their wings like a bird to fly
unless they do, in which case

interestingly they do flap their wings in Prairie and vault but the mantas in the forest and beyond do not flap much
irl mantas flap their fins
I think the forest and valley mantas are same and they flap their wings only a bit
prairie mantas look way different from other ones in terms of how they move, and I was wondering if they were different species
maybe because they are some kind of.. evolved form?
different species may be a bit too far, they look far too similar
maybe because forest and valley are kinda centered around civilisation and stuff
prairie’s pretty natural while forest and valley are really industrial
forest mantas might’ve been born in captivity so i can see why they’d be a bit awkward
the wings of forest and valley mantas look kinda hard and remind me of Maple seeds lol
interestingly if we look closely the shape of manta wings are also different: prairie vs forest/valley
i think Hage Jiisama has pointed out that difference before
i noticed there looks to be an extra set of wings trying to grow from the back in prarie
i never really saw the difference so that’s pretty good to know and i’ll feel more mad at teth
exactly, you wouldnt really think to compare them
unless youre mochi
bless you mochi
also the prairie manta has more slits? on their wings
righttt now that i think about the wing movements and size it just
ye ye thats what i meant! the weird slits are probably an extra set of wings growing in
explains the big manta in vault
Good morning everyone, Mochi When you say prairie manta are you also referring to the ones in the birds nest or just the ones at the bell towers?
Hi, it's both @mossy bay
tho the big mantas in bell towers do not flap their wings much
the big ones have prairie-type body
I always wonder how the single manta in golden 2nd part of map got there.
Where you encounter the first krill.
probably there used to be many mantas there, and he was the last one
ahh i just noticed, the weird glowing thingy on the mantas head is probably the same glowing thingy thats on our belly
a better look of forest manta shape
looks at my belly
The differences in manta's wings might be because of environment. Natural selection?? Kind of like how a bird species might have different variations of body parts, because they live in different conditions
having trouble englishing tonight 
no I get it Vibatu
I like that theory vibatu, because of the lack of light in the forest their wings and body has developed differently
I think the valley manta body suit the windy climate of the valley better
In hidden forest there are blue crabs instead of dark crabs compared to Golden.
It's the lighting I think
the crabs in forgotten ark look whitish
Also for the prairie mantas the extra flaps might help with staying balanced on random gusts of wind
and we know some crabs are bigger than others
Too bad all Krills are black 
You can't pick up that one crab at the beginning of graveyard
Too chonky
Maybe when the ark area becomes restored we will be able see more details of the krill, I wonder if they can even survive in lit sunny climates
ooo good point!!
maybe we can bring the crabs out and see how they interact with sunlight too
Yes plz
it may help figure out what darkness is
It would make sence Krill can only thrive in dark places
crazy how light creatures kinda can tho!
Mostly because they have their own source
Dark creatures are constantly dark, being under the sun would drain away their darkness
unless
Mmm like the saying there is no light without darkness
Yup
I think it might be possible
Do the krills only charge at us because we replicate a baby manta?
Mm ok just scouting for light creatures seeking to destroy them
I guess we are more resilient than the mantas, I wonder why they don’t consume our light though
i’d be annoyed to see this random red orange creature moving around and ruining my sight
we’re not 100% light like mantas so krills can’t straight up consume us
the in game start menu sometimes says that krill are eager to consume your light
why? man idk
They are inside our holy land, UNFORGIVABLE.
does that mean that crabs also are hungry for light?
we’re batteries for its flashlight
i think crabs also want your light
but they’re too small to actually do anything major
In the spanish version of the home intro sometimes it will pop up too. It says it's hungry for light in this case
So yeah, they probably think Skykids = snacc time
I think the crabs are angry at us for different reasons, because we share a likeness to the spirits who destroyed their habitat
understandable considering the poor manta that gets in wasteland
The whole "walkcycle reveals how Crabs are made" hint had led me to the theory that Crabs are mimicking a boat's sway because they are intimidated by the spirits that come on them.
I wish the krills hoovered up our winged light like how a spaceship abducts you with its light 😅
Like a defense mechanism, "this scares me, it should scare predators too"
That would be cool lmao
but the hint implied that discovering what the walkcycle mimics would also lead us to discover the origins if crabs
Broken boat pieces 
which is why its actually a really big thing bc if we discover the origins of crabs we can potentially figure out where all dark matter and creatures come from
What nags me is, I have no clue wether I should think of in-game stuff or if the walk is related to something in the real world

heres this by the way
this was a while ago but i found it in my gallery again
it presents us with... nothing 
For the love of Elders 
Big brain time
I assume the first part is "the [crab] [walkcycle]"
No wait
walk cycle?
The walking cycle of the [crab]
should we make a doc only for crab hints
i cant believe i just said that string of words
I forgot who said the hint but I remember they told us the walkcycle had a reason for being animated the way it is
Not a bad idea tho
That’s not even fair
The only movements I’ve noticed on the crabs is that they like to circle around and then they get riled up if you’re too close and then charge and if they hit you they hide and turn into a pebble they stay as pebbles if you leave them alone.
literally ash gives us all the hints on the crab
we shout at her for being such a cryptid. but she only laughs in response
actually, ash has responded to the thought of boats being tied to crabs. but shes only ever entertained the idea
that would make sense, i never really stopped to question it tbh
ash came back in april for a lore drop?? why didnt i hear about that
bruh
@humble barn what do you think about crabs?
i don't have my own theories on them now
i am at a loss how to interpret the crab murals
🦀
If anyone finds another sighting of this symbol, plz tell me
It has 3 connected triangles with 1 big triangle in the middle, and in the middle of that triangle there is a diamond
ive seen a bit jay, i will keep an eye out for you 
Everyday
I take one step closer to solving ash’s hints
I have a question, is the eye of eden goodguy or badguy in the story of sky?
The eye of eden isn’t a person
does this count?
As a whole
And technically there is no good guy or bad guy
It’s simply darkness
And light
Eden was corrupted by this darkness
It was once good?
And hmmmm that symbol does sort of resemble it
And yes
Eden wasn’t made with rock rain and destroyed buildings on purpose 
Ur name says professional liar should I believe u? :<
no
I don’t use my lying skills for this chat
Thank u
i do 
Everything is the truth when it comes to lore discussion 😌
Also dae keep a lookout bc that symbol actually is kinda close to it
It jus seems like the top triangle was cut off but they both have the design concept
ok but seriously, what connections are you drawing with that symbol jay?
i know its been hinted at before but i havent seen much on it till now
I think the crabs are angry at us for different reasons, because we share a likeness to the spirits who destroyed their habitat
@mossy bay have you guys checked the murals in ark's cave?
Or lady.
they told the story of crabs
rushes to golden
@tough iron i knew i wasnt crazy! theres a glitch with the forest elder atm
you meditated at the shrine
No
It was before the reset for hidden
I got to the final stage in hidden transition place to Valley
Went home
Then went to checkpoint
But sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't
I use a glitch called
universal cutscene
Heheheh dramatic name right
And wow she’s big
Can someone enlighten the pictures? Especially the 3rd one :<
Wdym enlighten?
Sorry, I'm new here so not sure if I should speak up but I never looked at these murals closely and it looks so fascinating
On the first picture Lynsa posted it seems like crabs were living in the water/lake
Then on the second picture the people came, it seems like they're filling the jugs/pots from the lake
On the third picture it seems that the level of water in the lake fell, or possibly it dried out or got polluted and more crabs are coming out of it
And people and mantas are fleeing away from crabs
I think the pollution thing is the Canon one, and we can see it also because there are tubes in the entire Westeland
It would be cool if in one of the next patches they add a season where we need to restore the entire Westeland to it's original beauty

Like the Ark :3

I think there’s a YouTube video on a pretty dated eden I’ve seen it and they sacrifice emotes instead of wings
But that might not be the oldest one
in beta the spirit emotes were the ones that allowed you to gain wedges
If everything is made out of Light (megabird), does this includes the spirits? 
Detail on the game I just realised today. If you almost run out of light, you can transfer light to a lantern/candles. Then if need to recharge, you can go to the lantern/candles.. I feel like this is an analogy for the game. When you transfer the light to another vessel, it won't cost you more light. I feel like this is telling us that it doesn't cost anything to give (or share), and in the long run, it might even help you more. Also technically can be used between player to player interactions
Just got this bug, and noticed a thing...
Krill cause wind
The krill died suffocating
He eventually wiggled free
My thoughts were, if the krill cause wind, is the storm in Eden an indication of the darkness?
I was always struggling with the causal relationship between darkness and the storm, but with this seems the darkness causes the storm
Isn't that the best time to get close for real and try to climb on it?
We don't usually got this kind of chance😂😂
I did indeed
@cobalt palm the krill have a small pressure around them that forces the player away. Most of the pressure is forward, but if you pass closely underneath them or above while not getting seen, it will force you away from the krill just like an Out of Bounds wind wall
I wonder though if it wasn’t just the devs using the push coding they already had available instead of creating a separate library for Krill push effects.
could be, but then they could have made the bodies have a collision object, like the boats or manta
The Krill have an immense amount of detail to them, so the collision would need to still be a separate object linked to the krill to save resources... however, the Krill are scary and meant to instill fear and force you to run away, so it makes super sense that it would be a wind wall object thinking about it from a lore perspective.
Jus some whale lore passing by, don’t mind me
im getting that mask immediately
thats cool though, the spirits thought that whales were important enough to make masks out of if
Wow
(also jay your character looks sick)
Ugh. I have a theory I wanna post but im too lazy to type cause I jsut wrote 3 essays in one sitting
Is it a scar or a tear?
It looks more like a scar bc it’s more pointy and there’s a broken part at the bottom
There also is a different tear mask, but it could just be a different style of tear with the spirit
IMO it's a rust mark
Caused by tears, maybe?
Notice how there's a completely differently shaped mark at the bottom, but it's the exact same color
AKA regular wear'n tear rust
Ah yeah that makes sense
Do these triangle support beams appear anywhere outside of Eden? I don’t think I see one at shipwreck pipe area. I found them interesting because that seems to be the only metal thing in Sky besides the gilded roofs 0.0
I feel like I’ve seen metal pipes in wasteland before? Maybe not triangle ones though
Yes
ok
Maybe it is 
Yeah, we don’t know.
Hah time to parkor the pipe area
It has been said that each area represents a stage of life tho
IE isle is birth prairie is childhood etc.
Nah, I think it’s middle age. Teen makes WAY more sense though 
I think Forest would be teen years
let me find the "official"
Or forest. And valley would be like, early adulthood
But maybe that’s just bc I cry a lot idk
I hope it’s eden doesn’t signify that it’s the old age of humanity after industrialization lel
probably represents giving birth
Or actual death
Ehhh
idk
im tired and its not even 6
i was thinking yeah ok death probably since you literally die
Isle is birth, praire is childhood, forest is teenage years, valley is adulthood, wasteland is mid life crisis, vault is old age and enlightenment, and eden is death
Thanks Jay. Figured we could count on you
That’s the motive for the state of the realms they are currently in but in terms of the sky ppl, they didn’t have stages of life in mind when they built everything
ah right
also I just saw Tom Zhao's website for the first time
it's amazing
I kind of wish Sky was a console game so we could have gotten a lot of those concept art elements
For example, they didn’t build golden wasteland to be a wasteland and they didn’t build forest to be all corrupted and making it represent teenage depression
Devs did that
And yesssss
but then we would have missed out on it being an amazing mobile game
BUT ALSO the final battle would have been amazing
So epic
Especially these 😖
That’s console game status 😂
SO COOL
Vault remains pretty much the same, it looks like
Ohhh that’s gorgeous
They even said that if they were ever gonna add sky to console or pc they would need an upgrade
If they make it a console or pc game, they could make it more of a spin off almost? Like use some of the same lore and gameplay but change it up and make some different areas?
That’d be a lot of work though, admittedly
it's just so breathtaking
in a way though, it really drives the point home that Sky is the story of a post-apocalyptic world
And as u can see, it matches the story of the timeline and the concept of vault
Vault is filled with memories and knowledge and according to the timeline, it’s showing the battle of the prince against the creatures
But
Sadly this never made it to game 😂😭
I don’t think they were planning krill exactly but from the stuff I seen, they did have dark creatures in mind
wonder if there will be more dark creatures
they kind of look more mechanical in this
And yea sentries and turrets were thought to be in wasteland before
But once again, it was never added
we were robbed of crab piles
OH OH I JUST REMEMBERED
the front part looks like metal, and the back looks like shadow
kinda, yeah
I want a giant spider to try and kill me. And squid. Oh my gosh these are all SO cool!
tbh, if TGC had added the giant spider-like dark creatures, I probably wouldn't be playing now
We were robbed of a lot of dark creatures but since this game is 9 and up and ppl are scared to even go to wasteland, I think it’s understandable why they never added all that
I'm terrified of giant spiders
lol im scared to go to wasteland, not because it's scary but because it keeps crashing the app hahahah
True. I’d pay a lot of money for a console version if it had this though
Scared of crashing 😂😂
if I had a console, I would too
had a bit of wasteland crashing today. lol now the zone scares me both in function and form.
Also they still have to make it compatible for android as well
So that restricts it even more
yeah
Yep. Well, it’s amazing now anyway so as long as they keep going the way they have I’m happy
anywyas
Let’s try to get back on topic, concepts are old ideas of the game and it’s not much relevant to the current story of sky
Could’ve been
you know im just gathering from the art that this could've been a completely different game
yeah
and i think thats neat
but the limitations of the mobile platforms changed it to what it is now, which is also amazing
Things cut to the game doesn’t necessarily mean it was due to hardware restraints or age ratings, it’s usually just their vision has changed
true
that's also what i gathered, i just like looking at what things could've been
¯_(ツ)_/¯
just cuz i think its cool
Quite honestly, I think turrets would have been a more reasonable explanation to why the lights have set patterns
What lights?
Krill lights
Turrets would've made more sense if there are pre programmed paths
But eh, krills are more terrifying, I'll give them that
It’s good that way
Yessss
lol i cant take them seriously now that i know we call them krills
thank Alex for that
AI krill would be even more terrifying
the 'dark dragon' thing stuck with me for a while lol
now im just like
giant shrimp with legs
I knew they were called krill before I even got to GW
it make helicopter noises lol
Like jeez imagine trying to hide from the krill after it saw you and you see it slowly move towards where you hid
it make helicopter noises lol
@exotic narwhal Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that
yes
@cold steppe Lmao nobody calls them dark dragons
"Face the dark dragon"
so were the spirits the invaders or was the darkness the invader?

“NOOO YOU CANT JUST STAY IN FRONT OF THE KRILL THEY WILL TAKE YOUR LIGHT”
“hehe krill go helicopter noises “
"Face the dark dragon"
translation:
"play peekaboo once with the krill"
I completed one of those quests in eden and I was like "now's not the time!" as I got spotted by the krill near the hallway
we are getting off topic
Hnggg Does anyone have a reason to why krills follow a set path lore-wise? (I feel like I'm asking stupid questions each time I go to the big brain channel)
people speculate krill are actually robots because of that
Makes sense
or maybe not robots, just some kind of invention
probably meant to guard something
i personally dont have a reason
i usually shrug it off as [game design]
i was thinking about how when you find a hiding spot they just completely shrug you off
and was like, do they just detect light?
is that why they're always hanging out in the dark, they like the dark and whenever they see something light they wanna "snuff it out" i guess
But the krill’s eye is a light too
So my personal theory is that humans created krill
like the spirits made krill?
Yeah, in a sense
See, I'd like to pose the theory by stating that in The beginning, there was light and dark. Light embodies the heavenly, ethereal, energy and generousity
While dark embodies earthly, solidarity, absence and entropy
Spirits were industrious creatures, like the elders. They caught light and used it to power their machine made of darkstone
This caused polution which lead to the decay of light and the need for more lead them to build more machines that gathered stray light and gave it to them
(I'd like to note that TGC is no stranger to classical story elements influencing their lore choice as journey was a hero's journey masterpiece)
Sky's concept of dualism can probably be attribute d to early western mysticism.
Things like the tarot, astrology, and gnostism had a particular subsection involving "The Mountain"
It's the idea that the earth and heaven connect at a place atop the peak of a mountain.
This is the place where up is down, white is black and Epstein killed himself.
The theory that we are hybrids also fits nicely into this idea (as well as if we were the prince as birbmama and the king of the mountain represent heaven and earth.)
Tldr earth and sky had lil babies because humans decided to end the world and mix the two.
By the by if we haven't already deducted this, I'd like to lay claim to
"The Heirophant Theory"
(Because Heirophants were thought to marry opposites and be a connection between realms :)
Alright lore junkies, what's your thought on the season of enchantment?
heheheheh
Copy and pasting time 😆
This is my view and opinion on the backstory of the ark. The spirits from the season of lightseekers found this mysterious light source and decided to share it with the scholars, they then adapted it to make new powers, psychic, illusion, fire, water, air and earth. Scholars had an idea to change the world with this power, to seek prosperity and change, probably to undo the damage in wasteland. When the season started it even said that these spirits were on their way to prosperity. But with all that power and all the orbs in 1 single ark, it attracted a deadly storm and caused them to crash into a deserted place. They were stuck here without a way out so they decided to adapt to their environment and wear clothes for the desert and we see them as “turban” clothes. One of them even made a farm. With no way out, another one of the scholars painted murals on the ark so someone could know their story and maybe one day, someone will find the ancient ark buried underneath the sand and return the lost lights.
If u don’t know about the season of lightseekers, this might not make sense
@uncut bone the spirits were the ones to create magic from light gathered by the lightseekers.
They go on an ark to bring prosperity, but are hit by a storm which lands them in wasteland and scatters the light from the pots they were carrying.
They gather mushrooms and start farming the land, and paint their story on the cave walls.
They try to use their limited light that escaped to change the land, but it fails until it is restored to them.
After a while they and the ark are covered by sand for an age.
Until we discover them and return their light and then are able to restore the beauty to wasteland.
The types of the magic created from light are:
Red that dwells in darkness, which restores memories and murals.
Blue that dwells in pure waters, which restores the purity of water.
Cyan that dwells in early morning breezes, which restores the air.
Green that is a gift to the earth from the sky, which restores nature and plant life.
Purple ?????
Orange ?????
Krills are immortal and undefeatable because they always have the high groumd
But anikid was supposed to be the chosen one!
Is there a reason why we can only have access to the elders in orbit
I was reading through the interviews and out of all the things to not be canon in sky this was not what I was expecting
then what are they in 
It’s jus our interpretation of it looking like glass
P-plastic bottles?
Most likely not
And I wouldn’t put too much thought to it
It’s jus something magical and it’s shaped like a potion for our interpretation and our view. No glass, no plastic
for beings who carry around fire all the time, i'm surprised that glass hasn't been discovered simply by tripping and falling into sand
But,, mah plastic
(that's an exaggeration and a joke of course but you know what i mean)
@worldly linden Maybe physics are somehow altered enough in their realms that such method is simply not feasible?
oh maybe! 
From my first impression of the game here is my take on the lore
We are all stars, the spirits are also stars
But brighter ones I think
Idk
But the spirits fell from the sky because of the darkness
And they didn't listen to the main star
Aka the glowy guy in the afterlife
He was calling them to free the eye of eden (the source of the light) that was trapped by the darkness
So the glowy guy (also the first person in the beginning scene) sent the moths (lesser stars) to save the day
Yes but we are stars too
The spirits weren’t always dead, they were ppl once too, and they were always on the ground before the elders fell
Ohh
Skykids, elders and spirits are all different species
Oh so there was civilization before the elders fell?
So I’m assuming the elders we see now were like megabird’s ‘angels’ whom she sends down to lead all their souls back to her
I’m not sure if the megabird exists or not since it was an old concept but if she was in the current game I don’t think she sent down the elders bc it said that it was darkness that caused the elders to fall, she didn’t send them down intentionally.
Hm, can you imagine how the skykids would feel like going into the office though?
Like Woah what is this ghost thingy, this transparent thingy, this thingy, and CRAABS
Bro what is this invisible wall ????
(There is no glass in the sky world)
Do you think that sky kids would run full speed into a glass door
Canon: sky kids are strong enough to walk straight through glass apparently
(Kidding)
Woosh
What I’m thinking is: Wasteland was probably this amazing castle!! It even looks like one!
But that begs the question: If it was a prosperous castle, where are the spirits there? How come it’s buried in sand?
They died

I mean, I figured— But there aren’t any spirits in the Wasteland near Vault....
While there are many in the Nest and Swamp..
Wasteland is the hardest hit by the corruption outside of eden
They either died or fled
Er— Theres one near Vault.
My thought process is, assuming Wasteland was an amazing castle with many folks— Where are the rest of the spirits? Did elder Sky Kids before us come to save them?
I don’t think so, the devs said we are separate from the spirits
I think that they caused their own downfall
The whole area is filled with pollution and corruption
They were blind with greed and power
so this may be a lot to ask but can anyone give me a rundown of all of sky’s known and popularly theorized lore? I read the documents in the pins but they were a bit confusing to me 😅
That’s kind of hard lol, can you say which parts were confusing and maybe I can elaborate?
(from way upthread) wait how can they not have glass with all that pottery around? Though I guess I’m not sure how to tell in-game whether the pots are fired or unfired clay, and they don’t have the sheen of vitreous glaze... and gold can be found in pure form so doesn’t need ore-smelting, and can be cold-worked... but surely the huge anchor and chain near the Ark farm are non-gold forged metal?
It was said during a livestream that glass is like.. modern? And the sky kingdom is supposed to give off an ancient feel
If you think about it it does make sense
When you look at ancient buildings they don’t really use glass do they
Glass was def’ly a luxury item, but it’s existed since like Mesopotamia and ancient Egypt— mostly small artifacts like beads/amulets and perfume vials are known, but larger items are exponentially less likely to survive unsmashed over eons
The fancy architecture in Skyworld has a very similar color scheme to the Ishtar Gate, though Sky stone seems to be naturally blue-tinged rather than cobalt-glazed
im sorry im just looking at the messages above and just imagined a sky kid flying full speed into a glass door and probably cracking it a little
@hollow summit we don’t see ALL the spirits who died in wasteland
We jus the spirits that are designed to teach us the emotes
There’s no doubt that TONS of ppl died at wasteland, so jus bc we only see a few emotes doesn’t mean only a few spirits died
Who knows
Thousands prolly died in wasteland
And we can’t have 1000 emotes 😂
So that’s why we don’t see all of them
well i guess some of them werent talented /j
Idea on wasteland-what if it used to be an ocean/lake and they drained it with those big pipes and built a palace
But why leave huge visible pipes everywhere
And that’s why the crabs are upset and why there’s boats, whale bones and water in the area? Idk
The pipes probably served a purpose in their time
yeah
Someone theorized that the pipes were for tar or oil transportation
But there were pipes in eden that held freshwater and if u have headphones u can hear the difference between the freshwater pipes and tar pipes
So overall
I believe the tar/oil came AFTER the pipes were built
OooooooooooooOoooooo
So water first and maybe they took too much and it became something else like mud or tar?
Something messed up the water is my guess
And I have theories on it but I need proof before I say it
I’m pretty new to the lore area, I just found it weird that there were whale bones and water inside of a castle
+those huge pipes
im sorry im just looking at the messages above and just imagined a sky kid flying full speed into a glass door and probably cracking it a little
@vocal lantern 😂
Wasteland consists of a lot of things
The whole thing isn’t one big castle
There’s factories, a graveyard, a partial wall, a ship doc, and I’m not sure what the huge building is but there’s that too
Also it was said that the temples for the realms weren’t rlly temples at all
They were simply places that had a lot of importance to that certain elder
So the huge wasteland building was jus something important or significant to the wasteland elder.
FORTRESSS
THATS THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR
Yea most of wasteland is like a huge fortress and a place of mass industry
Wasn’t talking to you 😁
I agree with that, it seems like the first area has the outer wall and then the boats are for bringing supplies, perhaps jars (of light/butterflies?) or something to provide power or food. Then the last area has the actual temple with a fortified gate and lookout wall around it that’s mostly fallen apart.
Do you think the krill messed up the water? Or maybe the storm itself brought toxic rain or churned something toxic up @sly kestrel
Welllll
Here’s my opinion
I’ll try to shorten it as much as I can bc it connects to some of my other ideas
But
Let’s start on power diamond and industry
Light and butterflies were harvested at praire and put in pots, these pots were shipped to forest and forest had a factory that was able to mix the light with raw materials to make a power diamond. It was their form of artificial light and also their form of technology. Based on all the concepts and live-streams and everything, this was a corrupted power and this is most likely what caused the corruption and rain at forest. The first start of industry
Valley thrived from this new tech but wasteland took this power even further
They made huge huge factories bigger than the one at forest and no longer used tiny pots of light. Back to how power diamonds are made, they used creatures of light, butterflies specifically
Well my theory is that when wasteland took it further they used larger animals with more light. This is a small concept I found but apparently if a creature’s body and corpse is left behind that means it died unnaturaly and didn’t migrate to orbit. In other words, it was murder. And that should explain the graveyard. Overall, I think wasteland got corrupted the same way forest got corrupted, the industry of power diamonds
They killed whales?? ): my favorite animal in there
Only this time, it was much worse
Darkness grew from this corrupted power, this corrupted technology, water got polluted to almost oil, and.....yea
All the damage at wasteland was caused by this
So pollution from industrial production?
But this is all my theory
Usually I don’t type long paragraphs unless I have tons of proof, but here it is
I guess I’m wondering where the industry part in forest is?
I could’ve easily missed it tho
The temple !!
Well
Only it’s not a temple
It’s what I call a diamond press
Like I said before, temples aren’t built as temples but they are places that are important to the specific elder and the forest elder was known for her power diamond production
Oh I just figured the temple was their shrine like to honor them
I have a copy and pasted paragraph explaining power diamonds more clearly but here’s a pic that should help ur view
I’ll take a look around once I’m in there again I think it’s a really cool (but sad ) theory
Are the produced diamonds the same as the lantern things in vault? Or are they the diamond blocks players light up
The vault thingies are lanterns that store knowledge
But
Vault did use power diamonds
My theory on power diamonds is a developed and thought out theory I had for months. It took lots of dev talks and environment exploring to make this, lots of evidence as well
But the whole wasteland theory.....ehh I’m working on it
It sounds like you’ve done a lot so far! Hopefully this season will reveal some things about wasteland (:
Well, it revealed a cool story and better explanation about the season of lightseekers
But the origin of wasteland....eh, I don’t think it will show much
I’ve only been playing since the winter season so idk
I’m just going on what I’ve been able to see ig :0
the key to lore.....is to jus look around
Take a second look around things, notice the symbols, notice the shape of the buildings, the repeated architecture and try giving urself questions like, why is this here, why is this similar to this, how did this happen
Stuff like that
The devs even said from the beginning
The lore is in the environment
gotta be observant if you wanna find out more about the lore
i can’t unsee the differences between prairie mantas, and forest and valley mantas now
Even tho it does sound nice to have the lore all written out on a book, it’s not that easy
Also there are manyyyy many games out there that had their lore figured out by the players, they had to figure it all out, and the game devs helped them with it
Sky could be the same, and this game has been live for only about a year, they can’t jus give all the answers out already, no fun in that
Like this one right? @hushed steeple
Theres also in daylight praire
Those spinning bell
Yeah but i think its tell something but i know what it is
Dont*
All the bell models have those symbols
But
I never bothered to check the archive cubes 🧐
Nice one boop
Where do you guys think the enchantment ark is located in relation to wasteland?
you need transportation to reach it..
somewhere quite far from other wasteland areas we know
im not even sure if we should consider Forgotten Ark a part of Golden Wasteland or not
i was just mumbling about the location of the wasteland
the shipwreck area looks dangerous so maybe it wasn't a good place to add a proper dock
boats there are wrecked
I think we are not sure about that yet? but in FA there is a hint on why the crabs became evil
maybe
tho im still not sure how to interpret the crab murals
yes
skykids are used to storms
I think they would have avoided the FA area if the place had always been stormy
Hey guys
I don't think skykids are made of clay
I just fell from a fifty something story high mushroom, landed on the ground, and was completely fine
And didn't crack or anything
So yep
I don't think skykids are clay at all
I have no idea
... slime...?
I know XD
I'm not a veteran at all, I just supposed that clay would probably break from being thrown from fifty stories up
Woah really? Cool!
Then maybe they're made of fire clay
ooor maybe light clay
Darkstone can contain light and stand attacks
Where do you guys think the enchantment ark is located in relation to wasteland? :sThink: you need transportation to reach it..
@icy pewter somewhere east part of wasteland, but my thought is above the ground on the sky at the clouds, maybe similar to valley, height wise. We did reach there on flying boat above the cloud.
Whee i thought I'm done with Sky lore 
although I'm wondering why is their dock not in the same area as shipwreck?
@hushed steeple that just gave me idea, the shipwreck ship is meant for sailing, the ark is for flying, so the dock is diffrent
Btw is there a dock at the shipwreck?
Saw this at the top of Castle of Golden, i remember someone wanted pictures like these?
oops I totally forgot that the shipwreck area also has red light
maybe it has something to do with the location of FA which has red light
imo shipwreck isn't a port it's a shore
tho i dunno if the ship got too close to the shore and got wrecked or she was wrecked offshore and ended up there
GUYS
Guys I’m really sad I didn’t got it on video but
I literally landed on a crill
Krill
And It didn’t attack me I just randomly bounced on it
I was trying to do the quest “face the dark dragon”
And I flied right into it while he was changing direction
I don’t have ittt
I tried again and it krilled me
And I had green eyes after for no reason
Hi yall!!
There was this art piece in the office pinboard and I can’t figure out where to find it
It was all the elders carry-stacked 
Which one
I literally landed on a crill
@carmine saffron
OMG me too.😂😂
But I didn't bounce off instead I actually able to walk on it
I was so excited and afraid that I forgot to take some pictures 😭😭
Lmao
I’m still hoping for the art source of the pic above 
Which one
@pearl void woooooah where is this in the game??
@pearl void woooooah where is this in the game??
@rain herald it's in ||the office||
you dont have to spoiler btw 
I know someone already posted this but... ie was just so excited I found the mega bird!
Ooooo
@rain herald it's in ||the office||
@pearl void where is the office? How would I get there
@pearl void where is the office? How would I get there
@rain herald when first enter vault, it is on the left side, opposite of the 2 player door on the right, the entrance is at along the wall, you'll notice a fire emote to lit up, just push through the gap and enter the new area
You also need a "blue cape" person to hold your hand for access
They usually stand right there waiting for us tho 
Still not over these
hehe teef
Why did they have legs like that
They remind me of something but I don’t know what
People wanted to see and discuss
I was about to sleep and then i see that
Tbh if im flying above the clouds and then that jumped on me i will cry myself to death
I will quit sky if its real
Yes
I will die for shrimp boi
Concept krill belongs in a horror game
It seems like missing one
Rip grandpa
Poor gramps...🥺
hm
yknow
the concept art is very interesting
theres art of presumably the lightseekers
Sorry , i stole it, don't know credit
I’m interested in the indifferent
High quality ✨
go check out the page
its filled with theory worthy stuff
so the kids ARE stars
it seems the capes were meant to be different shapes instead of colors
Maybe for easier to understand, they were changed
Waste land elders?
that thing turns into a black hole
a thing no light can escape
much like the storm
the birds are seagulls? huh
If that is all, so dark
Cute one
Manta have eyes?
mantas are krills?
well
corruption looks really thick maybe?
so maybe enough corruption latched onto it
and... shifted it?
oo 
reminded me i wanted to bring up that idea i got after seeing the concept krill with teeth
Same like whale ig
hm
hm.
Looking like seeding and then farming
so megabird spits out kids in isle, they go through all the realms, go through orbit as a full soul and then get coughed up again
Like" recharge "it self
the old krill look like pinecones,,,
isle is below the clouds
oh, theres a map!
that sent in the wrong order
lol
dawn, day, rain, sunset, dusk, night, storm
in the original storm you fought the king?
woah what the
Hm
this is a treasure trove
dusk is wasteland
and theres an ark
so could the enchantment spirits be royalty?
they did get the lights from the vault scholars
Finding some where new to live?
oh this is cool
the world under the clouds was supposed to be flooded
it seems to be very early concept art though
theres actual lore in here
Well often only nobles had free time/resources to be scholars when peasants are busy peasanting all day
the holy land is vault!
memory cubes?
so this confirms the theory that vault is a memory
all these are different except isle
wait
prairie
not isle
Different "iconic?!?"
The boat, bottle, and diamond makes sense but the last two don’t..
megabird is just a giant krill confirmed
the last two are manta and skeleton
Oh gosh looking at those lantern pix makes me realize that the final floating lantern shape is kinda built of eight elongated diamond shapes attached together
these dont really confirm anything per se, but they do relate to many theories going on right now
so, what i think the story is
sky is a story of a lost civilization that used the stars for energy
I think last one have same in above the gate in IoD (where before sitting to meet elder)
when the stars werent enough, they made the power diamonds
this upset the balance and gave birth to the darkness
corrupted whales swarmed wasteland, the main city of the kingdom, presumably the capital?, destroying it
I wish I could
@misty scarab @mild prism it always reminded me of monsters from Japanese mythology, maybe something from Spirited Away, but can't say the specific
Nofaaace
as a last ditch attempt to save their civilization, they recorded memories and locked them away in vault, while sending an ark with the magic lights found by the lightseekers to search for a new land to inhabit
OH that’s what it reminded me of
the ark got caught up in a storm and crashed
megabird sends sky kids to maintain the balance of light in the world
they destroy dark plants, save other sky kids who had perished, and then go to orbit to be reborn
In the intro it says ‘bring our lost stars home’
sky kids, from my understanding, cant truly die
We only have one mission, to ascend the lost spirits
the lost stars are the winged light i bet
since we give them a vessel to inhabit
and then they ascend
i think sky kids cant be created OR destroyed
since theyre reborn
I was about to say they’re like energy—
I didn't understand it, sorry. But could u pls elaborate?
@hushed steeple Kinda like this I guess...
7 realms
it doesnt
when we're in orbit we have the same body remember
and during the ascention sequence
We break free from our physical bodies and become pure light
then we're given a new body in orbit
Does anyone have any idea on the theory that our physical bodies are made of clay?
I mean you said that our souls are literally light like our cosmetics..
That maybe explain why should we melt the spirit to awaken them
Ouuuu
If we were purely light then we wouldn’t even have a shadow
the cosmetics are most certainly made of light
also, i noticed something
the hide and seek spirit wears the chibi mask, but shes actually one of the tallest spirits
Any theory about CRY?
so the ancestors arent affected by magic
Yes I wanna hear about Cry
Oh
What’s her story..?
I just realize that i read one
cry is a story of 4 friends, each one slowly dying
we can see the graves
so this means ancestors had physical bodies
Awwww 😦
Low temperature and no heat resources so they dead slowly 1 by 1
that's actually kind of dark,,,
I have a small golden wasteland theory that i quickly wrote up, its a bit all over the place atm
But Sky is a dark as hecc game ngl
one caught up in the wall darkness, one killed in a rock slide, another dead by darkness and then cry dies alone from either starvation or frostbite
yeah
actually if it fell fast/hard enough that could work
Let us hear your wasteland theory, good samaritan
Poor girl :(((
yeah..
How her memories still there?
cry is the saddest spirit story
which one is that again
OH I REALIZED WHY THE HIDE AND SEEK LADY GIVES YOU A MASK THAT MAKES YOU SMALL
She makes you her CHILD :(((((
YEAH
Which is hips ?
It’s a persona pose??
Seasonal one?
its more triumphant than sad tbh
The hands on hip I mean
Like the hands on hip is a literal personality? Like a proud, triumphant one
tfw when i dont carefully analyze the spirits stories
Oh yeeeeaaaa
Ohhhh
I’m just gonna say this:
Sky is a dark as hecc game ngl—
Assuming yeah
I forgot the original butterfly field look like
Or she might be a big sister??
Playing with her little brother?
Just assuming
The fact that the hide-and-seek spirit makes you her child is still peak devastation

Hi there
Hey y’all I gotta question
So uh, yknow the race? If you hang around for a bit, there’s this blue butterfly that follows you
OH YEAH
That is spirit?!?
I’ve been meaning to ask about that—
But like you’ve relived all the spirits in the area so it doesn’t make sense
The blue butterflies at valley are an old beta memory
Oh goodness
Ohhh
The MatPat of sky is in the house, boys
Wowowowow
The points in the race used to be butterflies, i guess some decided to stay around 
You can even catch one if you're fast enough
Ouuu
Ahh hi guys im writing about sky for my english class so i wanted to ask
what do you think sky's main message is
omg i love that youre doing that
definitely a game about giving
you might seem lost at times and life can be both bright as dawn and dark as the wastelands; you might lose hope after giving and giving to those around you and there are times where you might seem lonely, but know that you're not alone, and just as you bring the light to others, there will be someone to give you light.
It's one hundred percent about generosity, reciprocativity and cooperation
The very idea is that by sharing, you create more than the sum
Well the main motive is the stages of life but there are a lot of messages about the whole game of sky
ok thank u guys! that was helpful 
I don’t know if this is the channel for it or not, but I couldn’t decide if any other channels were better for it so I’ll put it in here
I was wondering, do you think one of the reasons why the white cape is so expensive might be as a reference to how hard it is to get the white robe in Journey? I think that would be cool
I kind of doubt it. The prices for cosmetics seem to get gradually more expensive as you progress through the constellations (think the prices from Isle vs. prices from Vault). But it would definitely be an interesting easter egg
Eh, it’s just a neat thought I had. I wasn’t really expecting it to be true
I was wondering... Why the Blacksmith of the Hidden Forest acts so mean when we offer her the light?
people say its just their personality
i dont know if theres a definite reason, they probably just like that
Personality
If I were a elder blacksmith of a dying forest, I wouldn't take anyone's shade.
"Can you get on with it little light child. I have alot of smiths to black."
Being alone for probably centuries would do that to you
She also just has tired mom who stops at McDonald’s, orders a black coffee, and leaves energy
Am I wrong or is the boat elder not present on the gate to eden
He is not you’re right
Mirian said that’s just what she thinks and that could be a reason but not the reason
Basically the eden gate is an old beta model, the reason why it’s still not renewed is bc it prolly still has the same meaning of isle being birth while eden is death
Also
I think ur right
Cuz I keep telling ppl about stuff being old beta models, like the bird at the citadel, the gate, etc
But sometimes I wonder
If it’s an old beta model.....why do they still keep it
Isn’t it weird how eden tells us what’s the time? Every detail matters right
And sometimes isle does that too
Or maybe that’s just a bug
Update the gate to eden from it's beta model
@undone steppe
give isle gramps some rep
didn’t an early version have dead skykids half-buried in the sand at Isle
hey guys
Hi
https://m.imgur.com/a/1cYLqtx ded kids
^
the eggs in hidden forest are krill eggs? i mean they can only be either the krill's egg or the whales egg since no other animal in the game is that big other then the manta
I thought they were manta eggs
Krill eggs in the hidden forest 
I assumed they were manta eggs. Just took a screenshot of them today, and the one is painted like the jars.
I wonder if mantas take a long time to hatch and maybe someone painted them long ago (to celebrate them ?)
Crabs as ark barnacles (find the real one)
Ohhhh. What if that’s what the crabs do too? Mimic barnacles and rocks. That would explain why they are always near water
I think those are Easter eggs (literally)
No water in the ark crab mural maze or valley temple tho
Spoiler area not nec’ly loreable— but maybe it delivers pizza
I have a question you guys might be able to answer
In home, the Isle’s portal has darker stone than the rest
And the bottom stones of every portal have the same coloring as the isle’s portal
Why is rhat?
That?
I just read the pinned google doc containing fan theories, and I really like the ones talking about how children create their cosmetics with light, emotes being from children’s point of view, and other stuff like that relating to the children. It makes them seem so adorable!

They’re just the cutest〜
Hehe, I’m gonna go be an adorable child now〜

What if... What if the statues in Eden actually represent other players who die in Eden.. And then we go save those statues.. But we die and turn into statues.. And then someone else goes and saves us..
Cuz at the end we embrace our light,correct?
Not sure if that's a legit theory, just popped into my mind
since it was a feature that was removed, I don't think it's canon anymore
Kinda new to this.. whats Canon 😅?
i am here to lore discusstion
A large instrument for firing projectiles at high speeds using explosive materials
STOP IM CRYING






