Too bad we never had this added
#lore-discussion-spoilers
sly kestrel
heady sequoia
Maybe someone ask in wishlist and idea
sonic urchin
Yeah. That looks incredible
sly kestrel
It won’t fit
sonic urchin
Yes. Chibi king
sly kestrel
No one would take him serious
sweet dirge
Throwing spears everywhere
heady sequoia
Hey guys what if the sky kids give the flame inside if them to the king and die. The king, un corrupted, heals the sky kid statue
jovial nacelle
Oh
sly kestrel
Yea, this is something that would be added if sky was a console game
sweet dirge
Best sacrifice
jovial nacelle
Hmm
heady sequoia
I hope so
sly kestrel
All that happening at once
I’m pretty sure it would murder an android device
jovial nacelle
How big would the elders be compared to the king-
Hmm
The elders would just be around ankle height
sweet dirge
But didn't the state of Eden was caused by the king
sweet dirge
sly kestrel
In the timeline, the events of the king caused the storm
I’m current sky story, I’m pretty sure it was something different
heady sequoia
Maybe darkstone corrupte him then he corrupte eden
sly kestrel
Also in the timeline
There was no eden mentioned, only the ark made of darkstone. Nothing mentioned about a huge city on top of the mountain, it was jus a mountain where a battle took place. That should tell you how old the concept timeline is
sonic urchin
Yeah. The battle aspect doesn’t seem very much like Sky
sonic urchin
Yup. I’ve gotten that a few times 
desert sun
its weird how for a lot of explanations for in-game things, we have to draw from the concept arts
i guess we can just chalk it up to be explained in a later chapter tho
sonic urchin
Well, is there any written/spoken lore dialogue in this game?
hushed steeple
Is there any spoken dialogue? no
sonic urchin
Only pictures. And animation
sly kestrel
I bet some tgc staff wrote down some of the lore story in a notebook somewhere 👀
nocturne monolith
It's in a cryptic little journal somewhere
sweet dirge
Storm tgc yes
hushed steeple
sweet dirge
We will get our answers
sly kestrel
Steal all notebooks you find
And if some of the artists have lil sketchbooks in their drawers
Steal those too
sweet dirge
They can't stop all of us skykids
nocturne monolith
sly kestrel
Area 51 all over again 🤣
hushed steeple
They can't stop us Moths
sweet dirge
nocturne monolith
We're gonna naruto run into TGC headquarters
sly kestrel
Skykids can naruto run as well
So yep, I guess we are repeating Area 51 raid but tgc office 😂😂
sly kestrel
Steal the red couches and the blue pizza in the fridge
I have a really really really really really really really important question to ask a devy
So if reika or ash shows up
Please ping me
sweet dirge
They come here?
sly kestrel
Yea
sweet dirge
sly kestrel
Oh u must b new
sweet dirge
Yess
sly kestrel
Sometimes they visit us and we have a lil chat
I call em dev talks
Don’t use them as lore machines tho
Say hi first
They are really friendly people
sweet dirge
wintry island
That could make sense considering the pots thing they have going. If I remember correctly I think it was referred to as a village somewhere
wintry island
Basically xD
sly kestrel
Ahhh there are a lot more places where that symbol is found
mellow sable
oh really?
sweet dirge
:O
mellow sable
I've only seen it at the outfit shrine and the docks
so maybe it's a symbol for something else
sly kestrel
Nah theres tons more
mellow sable
items could be a definition
mellow sable
it'd make sense it would be in ports
mellow sable
ohhh
sly kestrel
In other pieces, it represents natural light
sweet dirge
sly kestrel
In other stuff I found, it tells a different story
hushed steeple
sly kestrel
There’s also a cut off one on the constellation table with dots
mellow sable
so it's the jack of all trades symbol
sly kestrel
It’s also on the head of the child of light
mellow sable
well, it's used in places where light is, no?
sly kestrel
Like I said
mellow sable
so what if it represents just that, light!
sly kestrel
It’s hard to explain
mellow sable
light is everything
sly kestrel
For now; I saw it as like a symbol of life or light
mellow sable
could the items we use also be made of light?
sweet dirge
Table made of light
sly kestrel
Hence the symbol on the circular shield also opposing to the diamond shields
In other words, natural vs artificial
Connected organic light vs the power diamonds
mellow sable
yeah!
sly kestrel
If you are new to the game, I doubt u will understand what I jus said earlier but BASICALLY
It’s jus like the symbol of light
sweet dirge
Smack the diamond with chair
sly kestrel
huh?
sweet dirge
Nothing 
hushed steeple
That could make sense considering the pots thing they have going. If I remember correctly I think it was referred to as a village somewhere
@wintry island this is the closest thing i can think of regarding the symbol
pots are made to store lights (butterflies)
hence the symbol representing the light if we are to connect with what Jay said
Table made of light
@sweet dirge krills made from light
sly kestrel
I mean technicallyyyyyyy we are getting the table from a dead person so a table made of light isn’t a bad theory
mellow sable
we get everything from dead people in this game
and when we're snuffed out, we just look like a shadow
which means that yes
everything the sky kids wear are made of light
hushed steeple
it's pretty hard to imagine the gifts from spirits materialize into physical plane
like just give candles and hearts and poof there's your table
but considering how skykids materialize from the light at rebirth, i think that's one of the analogies that can be drawn
remote forge
Well think. Light is energy. If E=mc2 and you have enough light and a way to convert it technically it all works out.
sly kestrel
Ur pfp brings me memories of the old sky 😭
remote forge
Old sky?
mellow sable
remember children of the light is only the first game in the series
I wonder if we'll still be playing as sky kids next game
sweet dirge
A prequel perhaps
fiery condor
Sky: adults of the light. When sky kids ascend to orbit in a certain amount that they start maturing
sly kestrel
Chibi fans: NOOOOOOOO 😭😭
stiff oxide
:000
pearl void
These assumptions that light is the formation of things in sky, really was initially assumed from the thought that the cape is made from light because it do not have shadow, and the manta can go through column. Which Reika and Ash had debunked that theory saying the cape is due to technology limitation, and the thought of it made from light was fascinating, so it's not. I debunk that manta is formation of light due to their bones as the evidence in vault. Altho new concept arise saying the light creature materialise or leave bones after they die and still is light when alive, i leave that for more interpretation, for me it didn't make sense.
So i think we need to drop that light is the formation of everything in sky, instead sky is a physical world made from trees, clay and stone.
full egret
with what constellation Can i have this haïr ?
pearl void
@full egret the vault elder ultimate gift
full egret
Thnx
plucky plank
Do we know what the bones in the graveyard belong to?
pearl void
So I'm currently on the wasteland graveyard skull mystery, anyone know how many skulls there are? I found 3, idk if the last one is a skull or not
plucky plank
So I'm currently on the wasteland graveyard skull mystery, anyone know how many skulls there are? I found 3, idk if the last one is a skull or not
@pearl void I think those are it
Do you think they belonged to the creature we call whale?
pearl void
Do you think they belonged to the creature we call whale?
@plucky plank Reika have said that the bones are base of whale and the the skull of the turtle
So it's diffrent than any creatures we have seen so far in Sky
plucky plank
So it's diffrent than any creatures we have seen so far in Sky
@pearl void Maybe it's not one creature but just the scattered remains of many then?
humble barn
I also searched the graveyard and found only 3 skulls. I think the 4th pic is not a skull
pearl void
Right.. So If it is a turtle, it can't be it without a shell and there's no shell. But mind you prehistoric turtle actually don't have shell.
And Reika also mentioned that the company ask her to make 50 diffrent new animals ib the early days, and she kinda mix and match all the parts and came out a hybrid, and this one perhaps one of it
night heart
hushed steeple
isn't that just one of those fire pits but in the wall?
mighty siren
could the manta bone being invisible thing actually be something like this? Some materials and certain things reflect light in a way that whatever behind it is not visible. Could cosmic manta skin be actually something like that?
humble barn
perhaps
pearl void
could the manta bone being invisible thing actually be something like this? Some materials and certain things reflect light in a way that whatever behind it is not visible. Could cosmic manta skin be actually something like that?
@mighty siren this actually reminds me of naruto invinsible cloak, or doraemon haha.. That aside, i put aside the concept of diffrent sub spesies of manta for now, for me the important thing is they are manta.
hushed steeple
I am actually curious if Sky and Journey have some connection with each other.
devs haven't stated any connections between the two so we can't draw conclusions on whether they're in the same universe or not
:(
for now they're separate universes until devs confirmed otherwise
Oki
cold steppe
Devs have said Sky is the spiritual successor of Journey
storm wren
Crabs are tasty
north brook
hollow pier
I flew up that hole when I was a moth and it was my first time in Forest, it just teleported me to the Forest gate that's a little further ahead
pulsar burrow
Wait that takes you somewhere??
Cool
Oh wait
Nvm
I need to learn how to read haha
sturdy gate
It’s just a reset wall haha
fiery condor
I’ve went oob by flying thru that hole, just don’t fly too high up ig so you won’t reset
ornate anchor
This may be a lore question, but why do krill also produce light?
Like, when they begin their charge, they produce light
sly kestrel
Yupp
My theory is that we’re gonna use it towards the end of the season or sumtin
Cuz the placement of it is so weird
Jus a random catapult outta nowhere
hollow gazelle
sky kids go whoosh
stoic abyss
We boutta go into the sky and into a new area again I’d be hype as f e c k
They did say that they needed a ton of time for the final stuff or something
hushed steeple
oh? where do you get that info from @stoic abyss
plush moon
This may be a lore question, but why do krill also produce light?
@ornate anchor A theory says that krill are corrupted mantas and that they steal light because they want to be mantas again. How this process occurs is not touched upon yet (it may involve spores imo.)
But this explains that krill collect light and use light to attack us. They contain the light in their "eye".
idle harness
@tender dune Crabs are living inside waters. People come with bottles and get water. We see one spirit watering his garden behind Arc. Before he scares the bird with "Shoo-o-o" emote he gets water from pond. At last picture crabs are chasing people. But water level in picture is very low. So my theory is crabs went to shore because people get too much of their water.
tender dune
Thanks@idle harness
plush moon
Yet they seem to live in the wasteland just fine in the sludge? That's not exactly water. I don't know what water they prefer...then...maybe they were just attracted to the light...like they consume it also? Maybe crabs are territorial and very adaptable.. @idle harness
tender dune
I tried throwing a crab in the pure water but it drowned and disappeared
stoic abyss
oh? where do you get that info from @stoic abyss
@hushed steeple oh it’s something from beta, I don’t think I can talk about it here
idle harness
There is clear water in Live now.. But picture show crabs chasing peoples and also birds. They seems to not like light creatures. Only place we see crabs outside dark waters is inside Forest caves. But they are dark and one sealed with plants. Can assume that crabs reject and chase light creatures but can do very well in toxic water around shipwreck.
celest spoke
The liquid near the farm/qanat is still oil though
Was thinking about the mantas getting trapped in plants— what if they get completely encrusted into krills via malign symbiosis
Forest temple crab is under giant dark plant too
plush moon
Maybe crabs are scavengers of light
The liquid near the farm/qanat is still oil though
Was thinking about the mantas getting trapped in plants— what if they get completely encrusted into krills via malign symbiosis
@celest spoke OH yea I can believe in that. Were you the one to mention it before?
tender dune
Interesting
visual smelt
holy crap this is so interesting
celest spoke
...maybe? The dark plants drop dandruff just like krills and crabs
tender dune
I've noticed crabs just really hate light
Ive seen them attack a light source once 😂
idle harness
Forest temple water is not toxic.. in my memories. So maybe crabs can live in both waters.
plush moon
How did mantas get trapped by the plants? Like the plants have this glowing center? Maybe light creatures were attracted to it then the plant consumed it and eventually it spawned a krill
celest spoke
They attack the krabob campfire with the mysterious hexagonal stones— only other thing I’ve noticed w hexagonal cross-section is boats
sweet dirge
Heh krabob
plush moon
Forest temple water is not toxic.. in my memories. So maybe crabs can live in both waters.
@idle harness I see so the storm encouraged their numbers to spike it seems like there has to three conditions at least: dark, cold, wet. So crabs despise light for those reasons...
tender dune
Maybe its the greedy creatures that end up being fallen?
They want more light and consumed a lot or something
celest spoke
Crabs are in the sand pit around the mushroom wreck, but they don’t sit in the water there
sweet dirge
Is there any evidence that the people, the same species as what were the spirits are still living?
celest spoke
Dark plants also encrusted at least one of cry spirit’s friends
visual smelt
ooh what if there’s a biological limit to how much light the creatures can consume and if they consume too much they are overtaken with greed/ become dark creatures like crabs and krill?
tender dune
Im guessing that
plush moon
If darkplants are that much of a threat that explains why there's so many light sources. The presence of light creatures seem to affect the plants
tender dune
Anyone guessed what are we?
Because we're much smaller than the spirits and i noticed we make clay sound (if u hit ice or something fast). I know we start learning how to be 'humans' and learn different emotions through them. But. What exactly are we??
plush moon
Has anyone noticed how the plants seem to sprout from a sphere thing. K remember melting it annd stopping. It was glimmering with many colors
celest spoke
We are fancy clay pots for collecting light
idle harness
People on pictures are the third kind - with two stripes across. Maybe some kind ob belt? They are not first ones with umbrellas and not second with headgear. I see a connection between people taking water and crabs emerge. Before this pictures show very calm crabs around. Also we see big crab and small baby crabs that are not in the game now.
visual smelt
We are the descendants of the spirits maybe? doesn’t explain how we came about though
celest spoke
Unless we are seeing small baby crab, and bigger crab with more legs is alternate evolution toward krill
tender dune
The big crabs can be seen in the bbq
sweet dirge
Are they even alive
tender dune
Nope
plush moon
Maybe the outfit is a cultural thing
tender dune
Tasty tho
celest spoke
Pointing out again that Forest nest kinda looks like dark plants
sweet dirge
Yum
tender dune
plush moon
Uhhhh
sweet dirge
Where did those eggs come from
tender dune
Pointing out again that Forest nest kinda looks like dark plants
@celest spoke oo first time seeing this
sweet dirge
It's in the final part of forest I believe
plush moon
Maybe it's just a coincidence
The blue color shows the eggs are dead. Maybe when they were alive they could glow
Hey they have the stripe across them
sweet dirge
Blue means it's dead 
celest spoke
Final bridge tower w/ bell, look right to see tree trunk with glowing fungus ladder up to top
tender dune
Ok. Thanks @celest spoke
sweet dirge
I can't think of any creature which would lay those eggs
tender dune
Yeah i don't remember anything that large that would lay eggs
plush moon
Maybe it's extinct...or a different kind of manta..the mantas that were the spirit mantas in the vault?
tender dune
Hmm~
celest spoke
If not megabird, maybe like kilobitd or decabird?
sweet dirge
Oml
plush moon
Why not just Birb
sweet dirge
tender dune
Mantas dont lay eggs tho (if going with real world rules)
Im guessing if i search the hidden forest more i might find something
plush moon
True...
tender dune
Like maybe bird remains or so
plush moon
OH what if it's from the turtle
tender dune
Possible
plush moon
And then some people took it and put it there
sweet dirge
Turtle??
plush moon
tender dune
Yep
sweet dirge
That's huge!
willow pumice
Is there a higher resolution version of this image? İt is taken from tom zhaos page
Pictures and letters are blurry
tender dune
Interesting
plush moon
I don't know
Maybe check the pinned messages this is what I could find https://imgur.com/a/iGkSRIX
It's not identical but similar subject
plush moon
Omg his spine
sweet dirge
I thought u were gonna send megabirb
plush moon
Its creepy...
humble barn
Daleth is an elder
At some point in development, all the elders were designed based on animals
and they had Hebrew alphabet names, which are not used anymore
tender dune
Hmm~
modern grail
Can you meet the megabird ingame?
tender dune
Not sure, based on the drawings we basically give our light to the megabird
Im guessing its what we see in the end of the game?
Ill try to focus more when i go to eden again
modern grail
What does it mean by Sky World and Human World? If the kingdoms we go everyday is part of the Sky World...where’s the human world, then? 
willow pumice
Below
tender dune
Im guessing we're in the human world
and sky world is when we're at eden? ||when you fly with all the light creatures after dying||
modern grail
Oohh that part 
tender dune
Because it does seem like a completely different world
willow pumice
tender dune
Hope they make a Sky art book cuz i love reading lore and seeing the art there
willow pumice
sly kestrel
Not everything in the concepts made it to the game
willow pumice
Is this sky children on human world?
sly kestrel
Jus wanted to point that out
tender dune
Not everything in the concepts made it to the game
@sly kestrel awh. But its ok i love reading the ideas there
Is this sky children on human world?
@willow pumice looks like it
sly kestrel
Everything on the “tomcepts” or any concepts actually, they are old ideas and brainstorms or different art. So if u see something from there don’t assume it’s immediately in game.
modern grail
Is that official arts?
willow pumice
Yes
sly kestrel
Also I have a higher resolution of the timeline but like I said
It’s not current canon
willow pumice
From zhaos page
willow pumice
Yes
tender dune
Its stays small for me so i cant read the text
willow pumice
But I need higher higher resolution
I want to check details on the pictures on the timeline
tender dune
im a blind child
sly kestrel
Jus....zoom in
Even if u zoom in it won’t lose its pixels
Can u read it?
Even tho it’s not current canon it’s actually a rlly nice story
willow pumice
Yes it is the closest story as in game
tender dune
No i cant really read it..
sly kestrel
It was a rlly rlly rlly rlly rlly old timeline
Back when elders looked like random dudes with beards
Back when darkstone was a rlly big concept
tender dune
But i read the one lofi sent which is kinda close to what the timeline looks like
willow pumice
There is forgotten ark spoiler in the time line so it strengths the concept of tom zhao
sly kestrel
Ok idk how u can’t read it but jus in case here’s another one
Oh no that’s a different ark
Wayyy way different
humble barn
The Ark in concept is far larger than the one in Forgotten Ark
sly kestrel
willow pumice
sly kestrel
Yea that’s a different and very old concept of another ark
tender dune
thank you
sly kestrel
Not the one in the season right now
modern grail
Gosh thank you so much for that timeline pic @sly kestrel
tender dune
Still really interesting
It helps me kinda connect what are we and why do we give light to those beings
sly kestrel
And if u prolly noticed
There’s no eden mentioned at all and no mention of any city on the mountain. In the timeline the mountain was jus a huge battlefield. And this was back when the elders were referred differently. Shaman, ferryman, etc. and if u look even closer at the models of the elders, u can tell it’s really old. The forest elder didn’t even have an umbrella yet, and even that concept is rlly old
tender dune
Isnt this eden tho. 'The storm'
modern grail
Is the Holy Land mentioned in the old timeline refers to Orbit?
tender dune
I dunno i could sit here and read lore all day but i g2g
Thanks for all the info guys
modern grail
Nice talking to you, Ginko! 
tender dune
Likewise Brunhild!
pearl void
Is there a higher resolution version of this image? İt is taken from tom zhaos page
@willow pumice well well, looks like from here there's no mystery to crack anymore, who is ready for next chapter? 🙋♂️
If read Tom Zhao bio, he was with TGC as game illustrator for Sky from 2014 to 2018 and went on to other game after that. Sky was released on ios on 2019, within that short period of time, i don't think a lot of concept have been altered from his illustration after all those years. So i can accept this story base on the timeline as a whole.
No more headache
sweet vine
So the gigantic ark was a freakish bomb in a way? Because it was made of dark stone, was destroyed and caused the storm? Very much reminds me of real-life nuclear bombs.
And the damage they cause.
Compare the dark stone and the things the ancestors built with them to the usage of nuclear fuel.
The acid rains too. Those are real
humble barn
I think the gigantic Ark did not make it to the game
sweet vine
Darn.
humble barn
and probably replaced by the huge power diamond in Eden
sweet vine
What is the story behind the power diamond?
sweet vine
Thank you.
humble barn
there are plausible theories on diamonds + a tiny bit of facts provided by devs
sweet vine
""Throughout the world there are these imprints this child of light, a character you are connected to and have a relationship with” frequently called shiny bois by devs"
humble barn
and I suppose many of us think the huge power diamond in Eden was a "bomb in a way"
sweet vine
It seems like a bomb.
It remind me of chernobyl actually.
It's a radioactive area
Just like eden is
A radioactive storm that will absorb your light away.
humble barn
yeah, actually it still looks like a kind of bomb
sweet vine
In Journey there's the same mountain I believe, but it's much less stormy? The storm is at the bottom of the mountain and it's cold too.
Nuclear winter?
humble barn
and the way skykids die reminds me of atomic bomb attacks, how people died there
sweet vine
Yeah.
The light of the skykids is blown away by the storm.
Are the rock rains from the power diamond?
humble barn
Journey storm is more like a natural snow storm on Earth
sweet vine
Yeah.
humble barn
I used to go to school in a storm like that lol
sweet vine
Same lol
I had my jacket open too
don't do that tho
I wanna know if Journey is before or after Sky.
humble barn
the red rocks are apparently coming from the diamond
sweet vine
The diamond is thus shattering.
humble barn
Journey is neither before or after Sky
sweet vine
I've heard they're set in the same universe?
humble barn
no
sweet vine
Ok damn
humble barn
ik it's a popular theory
"Sky is a spiritual successor to Journey", devs said, so though the world is different we can see lots of similarities
desert sun
i had assumed the "explosion" that happened in eden is what caused all the spirts to die, implying they all died at once but that isnt true. Many spirits have gravestones built for them which means they were plucked off one-by-one. did every spirit die simply due to natural causes? or did something else happen?
humble barn
It's a mystery
But at least I think the timeline of Sky is more complicated than the timeline from tomcepts
Some spirits' memories showed that they were living in the time when the decayed buildings were already decayed
quick frost
Like in wasteland
I was wondering the same thing
How come we are reliving the spirits memories while they are interacting with the ruins around them
humble barn
yeah, and the valley archive
quick frost
Does that mean this catastrophe that was bestowed upon early ancestors before or after the SPIRITS memory we relive
mossy bay
Hi everyone 🙂
quick frost
Hi @mossy bay
mossy bay
A community elder once mentioned on here that the creatures only leave bones behind when they die of unnatural causes, do you think that could be the same for the spirits? That their memory is left behind when they die unnaturally?
humble barn
so I think some or all the spirits we release were living in the world after the catastrophe
desert sun
thats what i thought to azaura, especially considering that you have to burn darkness in the spirit before you can live the memory
humble barn
that's from tomcepts, Azaura, and if that's still true, I think the bones and memories are different
desert sun
ohhh it was a tomcept 😔
quick frost
A community elder once mentioned on here that the creatures only leave bones behind when they die of unnatural causes, do you think that could be the same for the spirits? That their memory is left behind when they die unnaturally?
@mossy bay then does this mean the whale bones from forest died unnaturally?
mossy bay
Sorry for my ignorance but what is a tomcept?
desert sun
i assume its old concepts for lore that may or may not be true anymore
probably made by a guy named tom
desert sun
the darkness thing?
humble barn
ya
desert sun
dang
humble barn
tomcepts https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1
desert sun
im glad at least thats confirmed for me
mossy bay
Ohhhh Tom Zhao’s Concept art.. damn i should have been able to make that connection by myself. Thank you!
rain olive
humble barn
It seems that the spirits' souls were somehow "trapped" in the world.
I like to think it was due to those people's connection to Megabird being lost, but perhaps it was due to their unnatural death
@rain olive I think there's no canon explanation for that question
we can take off our masks, so the question might be the same as "why we wear clothing"
desert sun
mhm
also the theory that skykids are emotionless and emotes are them acting and pretending to have emotions from what they learn from spirits
lilac stone
Yea
When the kid first wakes up it looks at itself
Trying to figure out what it is
humble barn
who am I
desert sun
argument can be made that skykids can befriend spirits and receive blessings and things,, but that can simply be passed off as game mechanic
sly kestrel
Even tho this is an old concept it actually makes sense
Unnatural deaths cause their bones to be left behind and their corpse. As we see in concepts and in orbit, we can see that creatures are meant to migrate from the world to the light and be reborn from the light AGAIN as we heard the devs explain. If this is what they do then it wouldn’t make sense why their remains would still be in the world, so this little fact sort of fills in the hole
And when I say unnatural deaths I think u guys kno what I’m talking about......especially since it’s in wasteland
Murder 🥺
humble barn
If a person died but couldn't accept their own death, their ghost haunts the place where they died or the place/people they knew.
shrewd escarp
The emotes and stance you get from wasteland hurts my soul when we think about the story ;;
carmine saffron
What is the story
winged topaz
What if drones are flying whales but their dark form?
sly kestrel
Drones?
There are no drones
If ur talking about krill it’s highly unlikely
2 different creatures with 2 different bodies and a krill is also about 3 times smaller than a whale
tepid frigate
Anyone discussed the meaning of falling buildings in orbit ?
mellow kayak
@hushed steeple
hushed steeple
@shrewd escarp whats the story?
abstract kelp
This thing hard to obtain what will happen when done
hushed steeple
When you finish that you get a spirit (I think) and a rideable dog.
high fiber
you get a spirit!?
hushed steeple
Not too positive about the spirit one, but I think it's the "holding your candle up high" emote
And the dog can only be ridden in the area.
hushed steeple
Actually, it is after lighting the puzzle to get to that area. I believe you also have to light all of the groups of candles as well.
high fiber
ahh i see
sly kestrel
The spirit is gained when u light all the candles from the elevator and that butterfly circle u were in, if all 8 ppl stay still doing the emote for about a minute then a dog named oreo will spawn. It’s jus a lil Easter egg
sly kestrel
Ginsy it’s been years since u typed in this chat
Darkness is an evil thing in the sky world but gins is right, there’s no fighting
This game is more about a journey than other games of simple “bad guy vs good guy”
hushed steeple
I understand that, just curious
Because I saw a video on ign of 13 minutes of gameplay of sky
And the intro confused me
sly kestrel
It might’ve been the old trailer of “Sky light awaits” but idk
mellow musk
Darkness is an evil thing in the sky world but gins is right, there’s no fighting
This game is more about a journey than other games of simple “bad guy vs good guy”
@sly kestrel
You could say it came after a game about journeys
Called journey
In a line of games about journeys
pearl void
Even tho this is an old concept it actually makes sense
Unnatural deaths cause their bones to be left behind and their corpse. As we see in concepts and in orbit, we can see that creatures are meant to migrate from the world to the light and be reborn from the light AGAIN as we heard the devs explain. If this is what they do then it wouldn’t make sense why their remains would still be in the world, so this little fact sort of fills in the hole
@sly kestrel i like to relate the concept reborn to our real world. Buddhist believe in reincarnation and rebirth, the reincarnated oneself not necessarily transform all of the body, instead they did go through death and leave physical body behind, and go through samsara, the cycle of life
also the theory that skykids are emotionless and emotes are them acting and pretending to have emotions from what they learn from spirits
@desert sun if tomcept still applys here, he mentioned that the skykid gain experience through the journey to the holy land, i supposed Eden. Like a new born child, learning emotions and expressions as they grow, i think devs want to mimic that process as a mechanic for 'gaining experience'. In other game it may as well like farming, crafting, cooking, fighting etc not like gaining experience to gain level, but as a growth.
dull coral
In the vault where the pool for the great bird is, you can hear people talking in the background! Anyone know what this is? Likely just an easteregg, but still...
hushed steeple
Why is Dwayne Johnson in scranton?
sly kestrel
Ah u found that too
I heard it while I was playing with headphones on, since that portal leads to the tgc office, i guess the only assumption is that those voices are the devs talking on what seems to be like a normal day at work. “Jus another day at the office”
brazen lantern
I wonder about the krills
pearl void
Can someone show me the concept art state about unnatural death of the light creature?
sly kestrel
Left side
pearl void
Thanks jay
sly kestrel
Hmmmm
Can someone send all the murals in the vault cutscene, idk if anyone has screenshots but if there is anyone who does
Please send 🥺
I have a ThEoRy
sly kestrel
It doesn’t have em 😔
I need the ones in the vault cutscene
Oh wait
IM DUMB HAHA
I found it
shrewd escarp
@hushed steeple by story, I mean each spirit has a story to them of sorts when you get them and follow them around at first. They have reactions to the environment, as if you're seeing a glimpse of their memory. Some of the wasteland spirits have emotes that imply negative feelings, such as fear and insecurity from forces of their environment. Perhaps krills, perhaps something not in the game. All I know is that I feel really bad for them ;;
Today's spirit to relive was the scared one, so it reminded me of it
acoustic inlet
what do these symbols mean? Megabird?
lilac glen
They could just mean regular bird/light creatures in the game, I’m not sure though
acoustic inlet
I was thinking about it... if it was Megabird, it wasn't represented collectively
pearl void
It's the light creature, that door is at isle, if you look back at the isle elder cut scene, the elder role is to guide the light creatures back to the clouds, i like to think to prairie where the prairie elder take care of them. The last picture is the quarry at forest to process into power crystal from the light creature.
clear stone
Hi guys,
I just wanted to know about the dead bird in front of the citadel. Why is it there? It looks like a sacrifice.
lone epoch
That was actually part of the early beta!
You could do these little mini games and from those you could summon creatures.
clear stone
Oh! Thanks!
lone epoch
There was a sparrow, a sea turtle, an eel, and a pufferfish.
Of course! There’s still some videos up online if you want to see how they worked.
clear stone
Thanks. I will check them out now.
rustic marlin
Any idea what that egg in the forest is?
Right before you leave if you go all the way to the right there’s a spirit and other darkness plants.
One of these trees near there has some huge eggs in it
Where the jellyfish are ascended and descending
hushed steeple
Can someone tell me in somewhat basic terms what the story and lore of the game is?
What I need to know most, so that the little parts of the lore makes more sense.
lone epoch
@rustic marlin They’re easter eggs!
The gist of the game itself is that you’re set in a ruined world, and you and the other Sky kids must follow the light and restore it to the kingdom of Sky, if I remember correctly. It’s not very deep due to the lack of a deeper plot, but that’s mostly what we’ve gathered through the intro and the painted murals throughout each level.
cunning pelican
Not sure if this was discussed here yet (missed the last 4 days of chat) at the Ark area there is one small boat that looks completely different to any boat I so far seen in Sky. I marked it with the pointing hand on my picture. The other small boats in the area are included for comparison.
Or is it even a boat?
humble barn
it is a boat
Jiisama found the same boat model in Eden
and this is Fun Fact from Pines back in February
pearl void
Idk but that looks like a smiling fish
There's the sun shield and two handed weapon in eden too
rugged cave
Those first two pictures, isn’t that a giant skykid mask?
hushed steeple
Looks liike a broken head of the statue, maybe the king?
sinful stratus
When you find the crying emote in forest, you can see two spirits in the memories, and one spirit went away at the end and the girl spirit was crying. Was she crying because her partner spirit died?
ivory pike
sinful stratus
Oh ;_;
tender dune
When you find the crying emote in forest, you can see two spirits in the memories, and one spirit went away at the end and the girl spirit was crying. Was she crying because her partner spirit died?
@sinful stratus they got stuck and they slowly died until she remained. 4 spirits, 3 gravestones cuz she was the only one left so no one buried her
That spirit makes me so sad
fallen pine
I saw this floating away from the shipwreck today
fiery dagger
Hey, I'm not sure if it was discussed already but is there any connection between krills and the big fish we see three times in the game (the one before wasteland social area, in the forest caves and the orbit)? I mean, its body is quite similar, but bigger, but the thing that caught my attention is their way of turning.
fiery dagger
I wonder if I can see the fish' face in the orbit befor it breaks the building.
One eye would be a nice thing
humble barn
@fallen pine that's from Salute spirit's memory.
fiery dagger
Well, the 'whale' always turns his body segment after segment at one point, usually in quite a sharp angle and krills do a similar thing, which is best visible when they spot you just before a moment when they turn, and you hide. Then they can turn in a sharp angle as well, which could suggest similar interiors of their bodies. They also look similar when they do a roll
When I fist seen a krill I thought 'why is this skeleton flying?' and that's another thing: apart from the krill's horns, it also has those little legs.
While we only see the whale quickly jumping above the clouds for a while, the krills can fly at different paces. I think that's because of those legs, that I think act as the oars of the boat used to fly to the forgotten ark
hushed steeple
I think the way they turn is simply how creatures are animated, especially in the case of longer creatures. that long spirit manta does the same thing so I think they just have all longer creatures turn that way
mossy bay
I only just noticed that the spirit elder manta is accompanied by two smaller ones, maybe it actually is a different subspecies.
That could just be a gameplay/ graphics issue Volter
But I believe the krills are the corrupted version of these elder manta
fiery dagger
Mantas are quite thin, but you may have a point
reef plover
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kfYQgZaRsugshLZ8A
I'm sure I'm not the first to theorize this, but I think Krills are robotic war machines/guard soldiers. ||In Journey, tgc's other game, there were Guardians that resembled krill, and lots of people from Journey theorized that they were war machines as well.|| Also krill sound so mechanical, especially in this video I have from a friend. They repeat their movements, scoping the area, almost like a soldier that's guarding something, making sure that no one gets past them. Also, it's very interesting how when u open the door to the last area, three krill show up on cue. It reminds me of alarms going off in a museum, alerting the guards to run to someplace. Anyways, my overall theory is that Krill are man made machines that were meant to guard the power diamonds or something.
plush moon
@reef plover if that is true then that raises the question how they engineered them. I don't know if there's evidence of a krill factory. So far I am only familiar with quarries and power diamonds and krill look for too different from each other to conclude they were made at the same place and by the same materials (stone and light). I don't remember any man made tech that resembles krill. I think that they are corrupted mantas, corrupted on purpose as weapons for the war. I believe that there's a theory that mantas trapped by darkness plants turn this way. I always thought it was strange, but it makes more sense that this was a rare phenomenon taken advantage by either side until one side was defeated and the other side lost control
last cobalt
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sly kestrel
The gist of the game itself is that you’re set in a ruined world, and you and the other Sky kids must follow the light and restore it to the kingdom of Sky, if I remember correctly. It’s not very deep due to the lack of a deeper plot, but that’s mostly what we’ve gathered through the intro and the painted murals throughout each level.
@lone epoch
We supposed to bring back the elders as our main mission, where’d u get the idea that we are following light and restoring it. And there is a TON of deep plot, a lot of us on this chat found some and we still have yet to discover more. Also I don’t think any murals or cutscenes showed that we are supposed to follow the light and restore it...
plush moon
@sly kestrel there's a difference between world building and plot. Is agree that the former is much deeper than the latter. Plot hinges on conflict and character. Sky has the conflict but not much character. I bet that some other stories with their far more nuanced characters (and character dynamics), moral compleixies, and various endings and plot twists show this.
flat flint
Wait we're supposed to rescue the elders? Not the children in Eden?
swift agate
were supposed to be rescuing someone??
plush moon
It's technically both - that's why I like the light description better it describes what we are doing more generally (removing darkness plants, giving flame to spirits and the elders, lighting candles, collecting winged lights, avoiding being extinguished, avoiding krills, restoring the souls to the Eden children (so a theory says), etc)
sly kestrel
We don’t give our flame to spirits but, I get what ur saying
flat flint
Hopefully this season will shed some more light onto the lore, maybe what happened before whatever happened to wastelands (which is somewhat connected to the big diamond in Eden right? Like, a fall of a civilization kinda thing)
swift agate
@sly kestrel bruh we literally give them candles and light them up w hat are u talking about
sly kestrel
That was a game mechanic added
And giving em candles is different than giving em our flame
sly kestrel
Who told u that
flat flint
Lol
swift agate
same here tbh
plush moon
We don’t give our flame to spirits but, I get what ur saying
@sly kestrel I mean that literally. The game gives us a button to give flame (light) to them. Not our flame just flame
hushed steeple
I don't think giving candles is part of lore imo
and lighting the spirit to see its memories is freeing them, not giving them light, you are burning the dark plant inside of them
plush moon
and lighting the spirit to see its memories is freeing them, not giving them light, you are burning the dark plant inside of them
@hushed steeple thats towards the end after we see their memories I think
hushed steeple
wdym towards the end
plush moon
I think it is part of the lore bc there's theories about that's why we were created in the first place
@plush moon> wdym towards the end
@hushed steeple after we see their memories we are led to their bodies where we melt a way a shell of darkness and the spirits show us their emote
flat flint
Has anyone thought that the entity who sent us back to "bring them back" maybe meant that the elders owed her money and it's due time they paid? Nobody?
hushed steeple
Yes @plush moon but once again, I personally interpret that as freeing them, not giving light
plush moon
the creator's a college student
sly kestrel
Where’d money come from
plush moon
Yes @plush moon but once again, I personally interpret that as freeing them, not giving light
@hushed steeple yea there's two stages first we give them light to see their memories then we give them light again to see their emote so it's technically both. if you give them light but don't follow through u just gave them light but didn't free them
swift agate
yeah that makes sense
hushed steeple
Ah ok I see what you mean now, though to be fair, not many people would do that lol
plush moon
i did that before ;-; i am a mothie
i did that three times on my first time with a seasonal spirit
pearl void
Has anyone thought that the entity who sent us back to "bring them back" maybe meant that the elders owed her money and it's due time they paid? Nobody?
@flat flint i like this
hushed steeple
Money...?
hushed steeple
Wow, that’s impressive
swift agate
woah hey stop flexing on us lmao some of us cant even hold a proper conversation for a solid minute-
hushed steeple
flat flint
What can I say, practice makes perfect. Ok I'll stop because I'm bringing y'all off topic
plush moon
tbh you make me feel the same way when i found that the big long fish thing was named "whale" or "tuna king"
spring blaze
fat fish
sly kestrel
Jus a little dev nickname
zealous summit
I named him Big Jimbo
swift agate
make him into sushi
zealous summit
Noooooooooo 
zealous summit
Ikr
hushed steeple
cough stay on topic cough
zealous summit
Srry
hushed steeple
No worries, lore channel gets off topic a lot haha
plush moon
krill look more delicious because of their design to resemble irl shrimp, this relates to how many sky creatures are flying sea animals maybe this shows that the ocean and earth world are closely related that there's overlap /s
zealous summit
We once had a discussion about how Krill are addicted to Cheetos, and how they took out their rage of not being able to quit on us
Lore channel can get weird xD
hushed steeple
Yeah
plush moon
but it is weird how it goes from land animals (birds and butterflies) to sea animals (mantas and coelacanths)
you can assume that's just the art direction...but it's just weird
why no giant birds?
spring blaze
there were giant birds
the bird statue in valley citadel was an old beta quest
bird
hushed steeple
Weren’t there sea turtles at some point 👀
spring blaze
yeah
and apparently the eggs in the final area of forest had like hawks that would swoop down, though i don't really know other proof of that aside from this one pic
humble barn
Flying animals in Sky are not sea animals. They just resemble sea animals on Earth
hushed steeple
:00000
plush moon
oh yeah do you guys think that the floating islands were man made or naturally occurring
hushed steeple
They were sea animal inspired
In birds nest, might be due to the updraft of wind
But idk
plush moon
Flying animals in Sky are not sea animals. They just resemble sea animals on Earth
@humble barn i know but i noticed that the "higher level more evolved" creatures are from the sea...but yea I agree that the devs just wanted them to seem more otherworldly with the sea inspiration
humble barn
Jenova once said having sea animal-like creatures in Sky (and in Journey) wasn't even intentional
spring blaze
they were easier to animate too
plush moon
the cool rule lol
humble barn
he said it just felt natural to him
plush moon
yea sea creatures are beautiful...some of em
humble barn
it's interesting that when you dive, the animals under the sea actually look like they're flying
plush moon
i know right jellyfish look epic. i used to swim and i was always fascinated how long hair would move underwater...if that sounds weird...im sorry
humble barn
i get it
hushed steeple
Omg yes
plush moon
oh yeah do you guys think that the floating islands were man made or naturally occurring
@plush moon what do u think? did the elders create them when they settled in the clouds? and then they gradually expanded down to earth? @humble barn
hushed steeple
Hair underwater looks dry 🤔
humble barn
I think those islands are natural, but there's no proof
at least we see no power diamonds there?
spring blaze
kinda odd theyre they only flying islands
plush moon
but i did find it weird how the opening scene showed the elders settling on the clouds then the wasteland temple is on the ground and some cities are built on actual land...
humble barn
yeah
spring blaze
i dont think they literally meant on the clouds, just among them
humble barn
Ive been wondering whether the islands with bell towers are also afloat or not
plush moon
yea...one time I accidentally flew under one and fell into the void...then i asked myself that question
However, i do find a strange coincidence that the only temple that isn't on the clouds (nm hidden forest is too aaaa) is the one with the darkest atmosphere with the krills and with the most power diamond factories
spring blaze
i kinda imagined that the elders built their realm around the area they fell on
but the temple is where the elder fell on, would make sense for their shrines imo
pale kestrel
Hello everyone!
sly kestrel
Wait gins
pale kestrel
flat charm
Does anyone know what's the place on the left side of wasteland?
flat charm
The first area
sly kestrel
Reika said that the temples are merely jus places that had great importance to that specific elder
And I suspect it’s jus another diamond factory
plush moon
Does anyone know what's the place on the left side of wasteland?
@flat charm another power diamond factory?
spring blaze
more mountains probably?
sly kestrel
Hah I beat u
spring blaze
eh
flat charm
@plush moon Yes, but will it be unlocked or will stay as a background? It looks interesting tho
spring blaze
we dont know
sly kestrel
We dunno yet
plush moon
but the temple is where the elder fell on, would make sense for their shrines imo
@spring blaze the opening scene showed all temples on the clouds ("together, the fallen stars made a new home in the clouds") If that is too old then is the earier scene of that vision may be unreliable too?
humble barn
btw Jay, it was Yui. Reika was absent on the day of Elders livestream
humble barn
no wait, she was there. my bad. but it was Yui who gave us that info
and they never said temples aren't temples
sly kestrel
Well they did say they aren’t places of worship
humble barn
maybe I should correct my notes, he only said that it's not that the elders are living in the temples now
really?
isn't that an idea came from my bad notes
or I just don't know where it came from
anyway I corrected my notes on the elder cutscene
desert sun
elders are confusing
humble barn
ig this is much closer to what they said
sorry I just can't make the whole transcript
I seemed to have picked up "live" from a player's question, so I should also correct that to "are"
wind root
So this light energy fallen from sky?
and people started using it?
and worshiping it?
humble barn
elders were fallen from the sky
light energy was always there in the world, and people started using it
People probably worshipped the elders
dunno if they worshipped the light energy
maybe they did in the past and stopped doing it when they started using the power
plush moon
Do you think that the elders wanted to overthrow megabird?
humble barn
no I don't think so, but perhaps the king did
plush moon
Maybe some elders didn't want to and accepted the natural order of things and so they waged a civil war?
humble barn
you mean a war between the king and (some) elders?
the elders we see do not seem to be on bad terms.
humble barn
they look close in the vault cutscene
plush moon
True...however a war did happen as shown the wasteland...maybe they forgave each other bc they realized their mistakes?
desert sun
i dont think it was an elder v elder or land v land war
is it a civil war or a different war?
flat charm
The king wanted to overthrow a celestial being? Woah.
plush moon
Dunno...we theorized that the kingdom was separated into two factions (one supporting manufacturing power diamonds and one that opposed it and supported light). And connected this to the fact that hidden forest and wasteland are industrialized while priarie and isle aren't as much for example...
desert sun
if power diamond theory is fully correct then we can assume that all elders had aid in manufacturing power diamonds (e.g prairie elder using and shipping butterfly jars to factories to create light from the butterflies)
but who knows, that would leave out isle and valley
their elders dont have anything that would suggest they aid in production
i think
plush moon
I know then wasteland started using mantas instead of butterflies (as shown by the skeletons...leading to pollution)
Supposedly the birds evolve into butterflies
tepid frigate
If wasteland is industrialized, then its a failed factory
What bad happened there tho...
desert sun
i first assumed that wasteland got destroyed bc it was in close proximity to eden when it exploded
idk anymore
sly kestrel
My theory is that butterflies weren’t enough for the lust of power at wasteland. Sure they provided good energy but I believe they wanted more, so they used bigger light creatures
tepid frigate
Exploded ? @desert sun what did i miss
plush moon
Rewatch the opening scene
sly kestrel
It’s not there
The eden explosion is more of a theory but
It’s one of our most SUPPORTED theories
desert sun
based off the first cutscene in the game, we can assume something went down in eden that spread down to all the other lands
plush moon
The opening shows all the temples then thunder sound temples dissolve then eden
It sort of implies that there was an explosion
sly kestrel
That too
plush moon
So there was probably a civil war between the elders...
I don't know if the hidden forest was in the industrialized faction...they weren't as industrialized and they used manta imagery though there was a whale skeleton and an emote shows a spirit killing a whale?
sly kestrel
Forest started the diamond industry wdym
plush moon
Forest doesn't have many large scale factories like wasteland
sly kestrel
Yea but they started it
plush moon
If you go to the last level they have manta imagery
sly kestrel
It had one main one
flat charm
Does anyone have a concept art of what the Eden City looks like before the catastrophe happened?
plush moon
Though forest created the process I believe that wasteland expanded it. That's why wasteland seems so different from the forest. The forest was limited by land. Wasteland didn't have that limit and they explored vast factories, becoming the center of manufacturing
Does anyone have a concept art of what the Eden City looks like before the catastrophe happened?
@flat charm maybe check the pinned messages it includes concept art?
plush moon
I think the forest didn't use mantas they thought that was too far
Maybe that's why we only see the battlefield at wasteland
sly kestrel
Yea they never used mantas
It was the butterflies
U read my thingy I’m pretty sure
plush moon
They seemed to respect mantas they seem to be influenced or related to prairie
heady sinew
They even had a special seal for the butterfly vases (discovered that today at the caverns area of forest in which some vases hadn't been melted lol)
plush moon
So it seems that the forest wasn't in the industrialized faction
sly kestrel
....of course they were
plush moon
.-.
heady sinew
Forest was more like the "make the rough product" area
Then at wasteland it's made more fancy
plush moon
I said that forest wasn't as industrialized as wasteland and u said wdym
sly kestrel
Forest was the founder of it all
Wasteland was the expansion and made it thrive.....well more deaths of creatures of course
sly kestrel
I said wdym bc u said it as if forest didnt have any involvement in industry
plush moon
I meant more not not all .-.
cobalt palm
@sly kestrel do we know that forest started it? Could it be wasteland was once like forest, but became a wasteland due to over industrialization, and as the elders expanded to forest, it began to succumb (with the logging etc), but was stopped before it became another wasteland?
plush moon
The elder used an anvil
plush moon
Idk why there would be logging it don't see tree stumps...
But desertification is a real thing maybe ..
cobalt palm
@plush moon we do see a lot, and the clearing by the temple I imagine is a mass logging campaign.
Especially in deep bow spirits memories.
plush moon
I. Am. Blind.
cobalt palm
That's OK, TGC did an excellent job at incorporating it into a rich environment, it's hard to notice everything.
plush moon
Tru the krills are excellent are distracting me
heady sinew
Remember the Winged Lights are like, child of light imprints? At the End of Eden you turn all glowy like a Winged Light.
Maybe the sky kid before us visited places he loved, leaving imprints behind, before ascending into Orbit?
cobalt palm
@sly kestrel on the unnatural rain. I imagine that is what caused the energy depleting swamps of wasteland, but forest isn't so far gone, and there's still purity in the earth, water and trees (and bells) that the rain falling is the only impure energy depleting item and will eventually contaminate the waters with further industrialization.
plush moon
@sly kestrel on the unnatural rain. I imagine that is what caused the energy depleting swamps of wasteland, but forest isn't so far gone, and there's still purity in the earth, water and trees (and bells) that the rain falling is the only impure energy depleting item and will eventually contaminate the waters with further industrialization.
@cobalt palm we theorized that the wasteland water is actually from dead mantas. That explains the aquaducts and the pipes it came from the factory
I don't know about the rain though...maybe the clouds from the wasteland expanded there
cobalt palm
@plush moon yes OK that could work with rain, as we see manta released from cages after the forest cutscene
It could be the rain is the manifest suffering of the manta before we free them
Manta are associated with bells in prairie
sly kestrel
cobalt palm
So when the manta hear the bells of the broken bridge, hope is restored and rain stops
plush moon
OH that sounds interesting
cobalt palm
Ooh nice one Jay
OK so theory: manta are used, along with trees / raw material in power diamond production. We see trees dying now in the Forgotten Ark area, so maybe Wasteland did once have trees?
The water in forests rain and wasteland swamps is unnatural (Reika) and that seems to stop (in forest) with bells.
We know Manta are attracted by bells (prairie) and there are manta trapped in the temple of forest (post elder cutscene).
So manta certainly seem to be associated with the rain, and as the over industrialization of wasteland shows no trees, the manta are also no more.
A possible reason for the bell stopping the rain in forest is that it awakens the manta, or stops them being used in the production of the power diamonds.
Really sad theory, but I guess that's forest and wasteland lore for you... A warning to us all
plush moon
There were trees in wasteland I remember crashing into a tree stump
So the presence of mantas have a cleansing ffect, which is why the wasteland is so dirty
plush moon
Hmm so I think forest didn't experiment with mantas but these were only experiments and eventually they stopped
Maybe they saw wasteland and what their methods cause: desolation
And they knew that it conflicted with their origins (similar love for mantas like prairie)
It makes sense for the two to be closely related bc prairie transports their butterflies to them
I assume that those boats are war boats...
Which asks how did wasteland fight? Did they use krills?
heady sinew
The soft coos and howling could be the Manta's cries???
The ones we sometimes hear at the last forest areas
thick mulch
Hmm so I think forest didn't experiment with mantas but these were only experiments and eventually they stopped
@plush moon Didn't they use them for crystal production tho? They were held captive at forest temple. You'd see their cages open when you open the big gate to the forest clearing
cobalt palm
Forest gets sadder and sadder
fiery dagger
Seems dark but logical, yet there is one thing that conerns me: if krills were made to protect the production, why do they atack the mantas which were used as a source of energy?
cobalt palm
thick mulch
Pins said dark creatures could have emerged from polluted water
Crabs are from water
Or stay around water atleast
And the krills look like big flying shrimps
They sound mechanical tho so idk
plush moon
@plush moon Didn't they use them for crystal production tho? They were held captive at forest temple. You'd see their cages open when you open the big gate to the forest clearing
@thick mulch I mean "did" oof
plush moon
Seems dark but logical, yet there is one thing that conerns me: if krills were made to protect the production, why do they atack the mantas which were used as a source of energy?
@fiery dagger their function is to take light maybe since they want to be mantas again
plush moon
Like the dark "dandruff"
mellow sable
yeah that
plush moon
Maybe...yea possibly there's a theory that mantas trapped by spores turn into krill
That stuff overall symbolizes darkness ig
sly kestrel
Where’d u guys get the idea that they used mantas for power diamonds
plush moon
Trapped mantas
mellow sable
wait
forest
excuse me, it's very late
and the krill is next to the broken press in wasteland
plush moon
In the forest temple after the elder scene
Doors on either side of the room open releasing many mantas
These compartments aren't very wide though
The forest might have only used small ones not the big ones like the ones from the three priarie bell towers @sly kestrel
fiery dagger
And think how nice the game seemed at first
plush moon
where did wasteland get those huge mantas from? forest only has the small ones as far as I could see
cobalt palm
Not sure if anyone has done any lore vids yet, so thought I'd start on this one, as it's dark but beautiful
zealous summit
Hey, everyone! I brought back some pics from my eden run!
I forgot to photograph Big Jimbo, though
Anyways, I found the megabird, and I also want to know what this big ball of light is
Anyone have any theories?
faint sky
||I noticed there's a broken home area, similar to the end of the vault, at the end of eden||
zealous summit
That's interesting
I didn't realize we had to spoiler tag in here
I wonder what happened to make them abandon it like that
cobalt palm
Maybe that's the actual top of the vault, and the one we see in the level and cutscene is just a memory
sly kestrel
Oh we don’t need to spoiler tag don’t worry
zealous summit
Ok, thx
Oh, that makes sense, Maelstrom
But then why would it be near the end of Eden? It does make sense, but
Ohhh
The elder cutscenes exist outside of space and time
sly kestrel
Space and time
faint sky
Maybe a representation of the being that ask us to return the light in the game intro
pseudo leaf
I always though cutscene in Eden at end was how Eden once was a great civilization since it comes after Vault but something bad happened so that is why we must restore light.
@zealous summit There are balls of light in Isle. The cut scene there and cave drawings show Elders learned to use light and stars for flying and other thing. I assumed ball of light were harnessed light.
zealous summit
Oh, ok
Thanks! I meant the big one, but that's interesting too. The big one is in a picture further up
cobalt palm
@zealous summit in the intro it said "with the stars united our light was infinate"
Maybe this is a remnant of what the light used to be before the stars fell
pseudo leaf
Oh, I’m not sure 🤔.
reef pivot
This game is too beautiful
plush moon
Anyone have any theories?
@zealous summit Wow those are great pictures. i think that it is megabird - and that we alongside other light creatures return to him to be reborn - megabird is the source of Light, which is then bestowed upon the earth through us and the light creatures.
zealous summit
Thank you! I like all these theories. Most of what we know about the Megabird is speculation, so anything goes, but it’s nice to have a theory on the big ball of light
plush moon
in the opening scene: it shows a person right? directly below it we see eden. between them is a cloud layer (the atmosphere) i think it's likely that it is megabird
zealous summit
Hmm. I’ll go into Isle to confirm
plush moon
zealous summit
plush moon
that's the power diamond....if we can see it from there then it's huge
soft brook
Idk if this is supposed to go here but what is that!!
zealous summit
Mm
It’s the spirit gate for Eye of Eden
Anywho, back to Megabird
They do look rather alike, but in the video, I thought the clouds represented darkness
soft brook
@zealous summit But why is there a flame thing
sly kestrel
@soft brook that’s jus the flame for the eden gate
zealous summit
Hi! It is the light icon to light the Eden spirit gate
plush moon
to go thru the gate you need to use your flame to get thru the barrier
zealous summit
Right
soft brook
Oh so the flame can be seen from above too
plush moon
sky is weird that way
zealous summit
Agreed
soft brook
Okay I understand thank u
plush moon
i was behind a door in another map and i could still see the fire icon even though I couldn't open it
sly kestrel
If u see it at prairie, it’s jus a leftover flying beta boat
zealous summit
Oh, ok
sly kestrel
Oh she had it a while ago actually
zealous summit
Really? Like, before Enchantment
sly kestrel
It rlly matched the fox mask so she decided to put it on....or sumtin like that, I forgot
But this is off topic
sly kestrel
Whatever u want
plush moon
.-.
zealous summit
I agree that maybe Megabird saved them as they fell
Oh, it was Lofti
Sorry lofti
But it kind of came off that the clouds in the video were representing darkness
plush moon
i didn't call megabird a cloud
sly kestrel
Hey u had ur chance, it’s mah turn now
But the megabird isn’t the clouds
And I highly doubt it’s the person the middle of the elders
zealous summit
Me too
plush moon
enlighten me
zealous summit
Any idea who that person was?
sly kestrel
I belive it’s the
cHild Of LiGhT devys mention sometimes
sly kestrel
Rlly
plush moon
so we're not the children of light...
sly kestrel
No we are but there’s another entity called the child of light
“Someone we have a relationship with”
plush moon
(:
sly kestrel
And the stars(wings) are imprints from this child of light
plush moon
he's gone places my god
yea it probably is...in the next scene of it we see the winged lights falling to the earth presumably from the person
sly kestrel
plush moon
then what's that ball of light?
sly kestrel
We see the elders falling
Idk about seeing winged lights falling
plush moon
we see stars falling and a child standing on earth and growing wings (probably caught it)
sly kestrel
Do u have a screenshot
sly kestrel
That’s you
plush moon
yes...a child caught the star it's a winged light
here's the link if u want to see it
sly kestrel
That isn’t a winged light specifically, it’s jus.....you
plush moon
a star fell down and then we follow its path
then we see a child standing there
then it grow wings
plush moon
.......
how else do u interpret it??? the child is not even the same color as the star that just fell .-.
the thing that is the same color as the star are the wings. the falling star is a winged light
sly kestrel
Can u tell me how to pronounce ur name
plush moon
lawft - ie lawf -ie
sly kestrel
Ah ok
plush moon
tbh i prefer lofti over lofi music...
sly kestrel
plush moon
so do u think the person is related to the ball of light?
sly kestrel
Maybe
But
We all remember what happens when u die at eden right
We all remember the glowy kid we hug when we lose our light 🙂
pseudo leaf
Sorry it’s hard to keep up there are cave drawings of people praying a star falling and them learning how to use star
I don’t know if that is what you are referring to
The glowing ball at end before rebirth as you go through door I always saw as portal. It’s like people say when they die they see a light or to go@towards light.
It to me always represented rebirth.
@cobalt palm I always saw different realms as a progression so Isle is beginning in Forest we see destruction beginning Valley we see more civilization but dead mantas then Wasteland utter destruction Vault knowledge but no nature then Eden which is utter destruction of a great civilization and no longer a Eden. The realms almost show the progression of what occurred.
plush moon
ah the glowing ball i was referring to is the one that appears after eden
but the screenshots u sent r meaningful - it makes me wonder if stars fell before in the past - or the star is an elder...
@cobalt palm I always saw different realms as a progression so Isle is beginning in Forest we see destruction beginning Valley we see more civilization but dead mantas then Wasteland utter destruction Vault knowledge but no nature then Eden which is utter destruction of a great civilization and no longer a Eden. The realms almost show the progression of what occurred.
@pseudo leaf this relates to a theory that each kingdom is a different point in time. and to an established fact that each realm corresponds to each stage in life - i dunno if that is meant to reconciled with the actual lore...
pseudo leaf
@plush moon yes that one to me represents portal to rebirth. It represents rebirth to me or going towards the light,