#lore-discussion-spoilers | Sky: Children of the Light | Page 263

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 3:45 PM

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@plush moon you're definitely right that the eden diamond would steal power from the megabird, it's placed directly beneath where the megabird feeds from/gathers light to
@hollow pier maybe it is closely connected to the stars

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stars are mini megabirds?

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 3:45 PM

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I don't think the eden diamond was supposed to bring them back to the megabird, it's destroyed now and we can still make it back to the megabird, as can mantas and the big boi whale
@hollow pier
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/705237065121660960

This may can explain why skykid are able to ascent and the elders can't. I should add including reborn in that sentence.

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 3:46 PM

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I noticed that around the eye of eden we can see an eclipse directly above the eye, so I was wondering if the sun is the megabird but I don't think that's right because the sun in different levels is located not directly beneath the mountain IIRC??

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 3:46 PM

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i think you have to free them first free all the spirits in the rest of constellation then u can see them there

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 3:48 PM

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@pearl void the elders can still ascend, they do it themselves when we visit them in their temples

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 3:48 PM

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I noticed that around the eye of eden we can see an eclipse directly above the eye, so I was wondering if the sun is the megabird but I don't think that's right because the sun in different levels is located not directly beneath the mountain IIRC??
@hollow pier didn't the isle cutscene show an orb of light under an island

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Plus we can see them in eden when we complete their constellation and receive their ultimate gift

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Megabird is not the sun, I think there are places where we can see both Mt. Eden and the Sun

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 3:51 PM

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As a spirit yes, just like any normal spirits, turn to ball of light and fly to the sky. but iirc the cut scene of every elders didn't show they ascent, it just cut of like that

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 3:51 PM

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i think that's megabird

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so he's connected to the stars and the constellations of the spirits? maybe the spirits are like proxy stars?

flat charm Apr 30, 2020, 3:52 PM

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Are we (skykids) successful in bringing the elders back to the stars?

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 3:52 PM

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We see this after every scene

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The spirits/ancestors are definitely also stars, or at least they /become/ stars

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 3:53 PM

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If you remember it is the light that we are holding, that we gave to the elders, that went to the sky

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 3:54 PM

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wait have u guys noticed in the beginning scene - each star creates one city - then eden dissolves around the star of eden (what i heard was like an explosion effect)

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or lightning or thunder

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 3:54 PM

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I think the elders are the beam of light showing the way, or maybe it's the light we give like king suggests, and the elders stay behind until we've completely saved every aspect of their constellation idk

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 3:55 PM

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here's what i talked about earlier

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hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 3:55 PM

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We have noticed loft, those stars are the elders and that was the beginning of the Storm (the Storm rages on)

flat charm Apr 30, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Thanks for the clarification!

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 3:56 PM

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That glow is the eye of eden/giant darkstone diamond

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 3:56 PM

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We have noticed loft, those stars are the elders and that was the beginning of the Storm (the Storm rages on)
@hollow pier what if they built the darkness diamond around the original eye of eden

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 3:58 PM

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I personally believe that it was called Eden because that's where the light gathered for the megabird to eat from, and that the Eye is the one and same darkstone diamond we can still see today

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 3:59 PM

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We have noticed loft, those stars are the elders and that was the beginning of the Storm (the Storm rages on)
@hollow pier i don't think the stars are the elders...they are above each temple..maybe the elders are the one connected to it?

flat charm Apr 30, 2020, 3:59 PM

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Pardon, do you guys happen to know where the tuna king/whales natural habitat are or do they live below the clouds? Since we only see them often in game.

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 3:59 PM

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I personally believe that it was called Eden because that's where the light gathered for the megabird to eat from, and that the Eye is the one and same darkstone diamond we can still see today
@hollow pier i think that's where the light came down from the megabird - the largest most powerful star

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 3:59 PM

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@hollow pier oh ya hage, the reason why i said the power crystal at eden can transport them to the megabird, because it emits a beam of light to the sky, like what we see on everywhere in the game. That light in hope can ascend them to the megabird.

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 4:00 PM

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so like a natural elevator

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 4:01 PM

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@flat charm Not sure. He could be the last one of his kind

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 4:01 PM

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@plush moon the devs have confirmed the stars that fall in the intro are the elders

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 4:01 PM

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so the elders used to be like the subjects of the megabird?

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"but darkness blinds, so i cast them away" and then he banished them to the clouds - in the vid he had this radiance like a sun then it went away - maybe his choice? - and then the elders replaced him by giving their own light in the clouds

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 4:03 PM

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As I last mentioned when that quote got mentioned I'm not sure if that's still canon so it should be no.1 priority to ask the devs next time they join the lore channel

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 4:03 PM

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lol swarm them

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Or maybe just a form of communication that the elders try to establish with the megabird, sending SOS

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 4:04 PM

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SOS for what?

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Take them back from the clouds and be united

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 4:06 PM

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i think that's what just unites them

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then he banishes them and destroys the unity - the elders settle on the clouds and create their own light without megabird

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 4:07 PM

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unrelated to the current discussion but Im gonna post some pics of Eden and Sun-like light

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plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 4:10 PM

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each temple has their own sun maybe

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Slightly to the right of the storm.... hmmmm. The sun probably isn't the megabird then

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Imo Megabird is a being higher than any stars and most of the time invisible until we lose our body

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 4:18 PM

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so mega bird is like the mega star the animals surround after eden

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 4:19 PM

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ya, that mega-soul: What we see is an aggregation of souls, so dense that it looks like a shiny ball

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 4:27 PM

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So I don't think the bones are holograms, the spirit creatures.... I didn't think they were but in retrospect I see no reason why they couldn't be holograms (also no reason why they can't be spirit memories either) I'd say there's no proof either way
@hollow pier the bones are not hologram, they were there when the platform going up, like a displayed dinosaur bones. The elder manta is hologram or spirit, appear after the platform stop. Which suggest that the bones are the manta's

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 4:31 PM

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All the presence of the cosmic whale suggests is that they're related to Wasteland @pearl void

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In my opinion, and this correlation has made me think that the cosmic whale we see there is what an uncorrupted krill is

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That makes more sense to me than those bones fitting inside the cosmic whale

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Sorry to ping you hage, i was scrolling up and looking what i missed, i was about going to bed

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Ahahaha no it's fine, ping me whenever SkyTada

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 4:33 PM

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In my opinion, and this correlation has made me think that the cosmic whale we see there is what an uncorrupted krill is
@hollow pier oh yes i totally agree with you on this, I'm on this as well, tho not much evidence i can relate that

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 4:34 PM

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It occurred to me the other day like a krill slamming into my head, like OBVS that's why there's a cosmic whale on that level, because they're related to wasteland and if they're not related to the bones then they've got to be related to something else OH KRILL

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 4:35 PM

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And i am surprise you didn't use the home trick and get slammed by the krill

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The turtle bones is next tho, i haven't got any clue on that

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Oh you were correlating krill slamming yoi head, got it haha

sly kestrel Apr 30, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Jus a quick lil thing
Reika never confirmed them to be turtles, she jus said that she used whales and turtle bones as a reference when she was making everything

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 4:46 PM

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~~it's manta~~

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 4:49 PM

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The bones in the graveyard and the bones on the vault lvl 4 belong to the elder manta

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The mantas in vault are an interactive projection. Maybe the vault members predicted that the mantas were soon to go extinct.

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@hollow pier you posted a picture on here earlier this week of one of the murals in the vault with the mantas and the diamond stones? From what i recall it looks like the diamond stones are either projecting the image of the mantas or they are sucking energy from the mantas?

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 4:54 PM

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hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 4:56 PM

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I don't think that looks like projection beams but lines of text next to the diamonds

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but maybe their language is like magic, arrange the right symbols together and they project something, maybe that's how the projections in vault work?

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 4:58 PM

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the lines on the mural are the lines connecting the stars of the constellation

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yeah, i believe the symbols on the mural are codes

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either digital or biological

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:01 PM

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So the 6 rows of diamond with the text underneath so is that they store some form of information then right? There are still two power diamonds with text leading to the mantas and an even larger one for the elder manta

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:01 PM

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yeah i believe so

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:02 PM

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The diamonds hold information about the creatures and then reflect it back to us through the projection, their movements their synchronicities

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The creatures in the vault aren’t real. And the bones next to each of the creatures belonged to them

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:06 PM

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And the scholars couldn't or didn't replicate the original mantas

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so the creatures in vault are not only transparent but are smoother and much smaller than the real ones

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:07 PM

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I don't believe that's an elder manta in level four of vault, it bears no resemblance to mantas

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it's just an elder creature or as the community calls it a cosmic whale

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:09 PM

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You can’t see it?

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It has a tail that replicates the mantas

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:09 PM

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they have manta heads and manta tails

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Multiple wings that replicate the manta

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Thank you for providing the picture mochi 🙂

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:10 PM

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The tails match but the heads certainly don't, in normal mantas the head is streamlined with the primary (and largest) wings

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in the cosmic whale the head protrudes and the largest wings are in the center of the body

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mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:11 PM

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I don’t know I think you’re looking for the discrepancies rather than the similarities on this one

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It’s an elder manta though and through the concept art it even looks like the creature go through evolving stages

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:12 PM

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I see similarity

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mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Rather than just getting bigger

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Hahaha, that's an excellent point azaura, but that logic goes both ways

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humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:13 PM

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uploads keep lagging SkyFaint

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:14 PM

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The patterns around that head match in vault but not when compared to the praire manta

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:14 PM

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You’re right but I also think we’re making it harder for ourselves. It seems to be presented to us very clearly we should take what we can with how little the game actually gives us

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:14 PM

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and if the vault creatures are projections then they don't have to match what the creatures do

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Same I can’t see any pictures

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:15 PM

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I would disagree and say that it clearly presents them as unrelated creatures

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Sorry it would help if I could type English today 😄

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:15 PM

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this topic reminds me I should post the eden manta pic

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mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:16 PM

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But how? If you go to a museum and there is a display of bones infront of you, right next to where you’re standing you will see a picture of who those bones belonged to

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It’s the same here in the vault

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:16 PM

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I agree Azaura, when I made the chart i was like "that obvious hint was there!?! this whole time?!"

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:17 PM

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have u guys seen this yet

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humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:17 PM

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well come to think of it the elder manta is only in the concept art images so that wasn't so obvious

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:17 PM

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I need a close up of the markings on the praire mantas

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:18 PM

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yes we have Lofti

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:19 PM

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You’re right the elder manta bones theory just hit me today but now I can’t Unsee it

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Markings don’t match, I think the diamond markings that match between the cosmic whale and cosmic mantas are evidence they’re a:related species or b:both projections

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:26 PM

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sub-species?

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:27 PM

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but I can see diamond on prairie manta?

heady sinew Apr 30, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I always thought they were different types of mantas

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Like, all manta, just sub-species

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Sorry what marking are you guys talking about?

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:28 PM

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the praire and eden mantas have a central diamond and gold bands extending from either side, while the vault creatures have a central diamond and three pairs of smaller diamonds extending from each side

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:28 PM

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I was talking about the diamond on their head

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Oh I see

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:29 PM

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maybe the design depends on their age like tree rings

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:29 PM

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oooooh that's an excellent screenshot of the praire manta actually, we can see two primary wings, two sub wings, and two wing stubs, where as just above the eden manta we can see the same wing stubs

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I don't think mantas age is the thing, because we summon the praire mantas into existence by ringing the three bells, and we summon them into being as large as they are with that many wings

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:30 PM

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The marking wouldn’t match though? One is the real creature and the other is a stylistic replica of the real thing

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They have the same diamond head

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:31 PM

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That's exactly my point just above, if they're not real creatures then the fact they've got a matching design doesn't mean a whole lot

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Why would they make a new manta design in the simulation?

heady sinew Apr 30, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Never realized prairie mantas and eden mantas have different tails

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:33 PM

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I have no idea but as you can see in the screenshots the vault mantas have a different design than the praire/eden ones

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:34 PM

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...maybe those designs are like wings for us

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Why would they make a new manta design in the simulation?
@plush moon they either didn't or couldn't. I guess they couldn't

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:34 PM

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And they rather make it more complex?

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:34 PM

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think about 3D games irl people usually don't look like real human

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Technically prairie has a simpler design

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:34 PM

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the characters are prettier than us lol

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:35 PM

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But their job was to keep knowledge correct? Why would they keep inaccurate info

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:35 PM

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I guess they couldn't

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 5:35 PM

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A unique marking for each manta, like human in general, big, small, long nose, short hand long hand, but still same species

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:36 PM

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But we don't have like two noses or three eyes there's consistency and not much variation

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I think the variation is too great to conclude it to be a unique trait

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:36 PM

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I see the lore chat has moved on from boats pEyes to mantas pHelloKrill

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:37 PM

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I think the variation is too great to conclude it to be a unique trait
@plush moon then what do you think the vault creatures are?

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Honestly another species of manta. Maybe their more complex designs imply that they hold more light than prairie ones - these mantas were like special cattle - for this reason maybe they were raised and then died off whether from the storm or for their light

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 5:38 PM

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A python, a cobra, anaconda, still have diffrent physical but the same resus, snakes
You got what i mean

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Well, if it's indicative of anything this pCosmicManta is called a cosmic manta

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you know what we really need, that livestream on the creatures of sky we were promised ages ago

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What would we ask?

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 5:39 PM

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You can't say a human born with no leg, or with extra finger, is not human

But we don't have like two noses or three eyes there's consistency and not much variation
@plush moon

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:40 PM

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I know those are generally mutations

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They are abnormal

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Abnormal manta

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Single isolated instances not an entirely different species

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Are the creatures in vault spirits, projections, or something else? Are krill corrupted versions of the cosmic whale? Do creatures of light grow?

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Did the tuna king ever converse with spirits?

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:41 PM

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They do seem to have a life cycle they ascend...

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I also think the concept of Elder manta was something relatively new, and thus some older concepts art images are not consistent with the Manta Bone Theory. I think krill being corrupted whales was a thing at some point but not anymore

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but that's just my theory

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:42 PM

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The theory of krill being corrupted tuna kings is an old one, corrupted cosmic whales... idk I forget

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:43 PM

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See this is what I’m saying why are we looking so hard for differences instead of going off of what the game has given us? The cosmic mantas are also made up of stars? It’s such a slight difference and doesn’t really make any difference to the larger scale of things

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I like the idea of the krill being corrupt elder whales

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I need to write up a theory on that

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Azaura because we can't pick and choose what details the game gives us so that it fits into our theories

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:43 PM

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I still believe that the vault mantas are different species. It's ridiculous to think that the design was changed for convenience it's like a history textbook saying ww2 never happened bc it wanted less pages

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:44 PM

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A good theory should take into account all the facts instead of discarding some because they don't fit

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Lofti that is a weird comparison

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But I understand

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Next question, do the cosmic mantas between floors 5 and 6 have the same diamond markings (one major, three smaller either side)

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:46 PM

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A good theory should take into account all the facts instead of discarding some because they don't fit
@hollow pier the artists follow a rationale. Their designs are specifically that for a specific reason

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:46 PM

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I get what you are saying but I think the differences can be explained

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:46 PM

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OH YEAH unrelated but I noticed a boat in eden matches one of the boats by the ark

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:47 PM

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of all people the game devs know that they have limitations, they cannot copy the real creatures exactly

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:47 PM

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EDIT: here's the boat near the ark https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/704242898077483088

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mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:47 PM

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And if the vault is meant to be like a dream like realm then why can’t the design be slightly different?

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Why would the artists make entirely new assets...

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:48 PM

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to make a virtual reality in a virtual reality

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:48 PM

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I think this theory has some solid ground and somehow we’ve almost completely dismissed it because the cosmic mantas have a diamond pattern

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Really?

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:49 PM

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to make a virtual reality in a virtual reality
@humble barn I think that's a stretch it's too misleading

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:50 PM

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you can ignore me lol

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:50 PM

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If it were that way I would assume that they already done it

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It's like a dream scene except it is never said it is one

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:50 PM

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but the vault is designed to be a dream-like realm

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Why confuse your customers like this

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:51 PM

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~mystery~

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Yea but there are many other more clear ways to convey this

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 5:51 PM

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I am saying to make a virtual reality [Vault] in a virtual reality [Sky]

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Sorry Mochi! I see you pSkyHeart pEyes pCry

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:52 PM

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I still really like my theory that vault is another dimension (like the elder cutscenes and orbit), that's why we go from the top floor to outside of eden

desert sun Apr 30, 2020, 5:52 PM

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heyyo

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Doesn't mean that the things inside it can't be virtual though, still goes nicely with that theory

desert sun Apr 30, 2020, 5:53 PM

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are we talking about whether vault is real or not

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:53 PM

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We're talking about mantas and cosmic mantas and cosmic whales and whether cosmic whales are elder mantas

desert sun Apr 30, 2020, 5:54 PM

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i think theyre more elder mantas and not whales

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:54 PM

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and whether the cosmetic design on cosmic creatures is due to vault being virtual or the creatures being related

desert sun Apr 30, 2020, 5:55 PM

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i feel that all cosmic entities in vault are spirits, hence the small bones in vault summoning that cosmic manta

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for the call

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we call them spirit mantas anyway

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:55 PM

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I don't mean cosmic versions of pWhale but cosmic versions of uncorrupted krillhead krillbody krillatail

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 5:55 PM

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And who said the real manta dont have more diamonds on their head?

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mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:56 PM

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The cosmic mantas and the living mantas still share 99.99 % likeness. The vault is a library and archive of knowledge, it replicated their likeness through this projection

desert sun Apr 30, 2020, 5:56 PM

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true true

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:56 PM

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@pearl void cosmic mantas have more https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/705466400227065876

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:57 PM

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I could argue that they aren’t spirit mantas because the only time we ever see them is in the vault of knowledge

desert sun Apr 30, 2020, 5:57 PM

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right, theres evidence to support it and go against it, for example

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 5:57 PM

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I just gotta flip the manta over and im sure I'll find it somewhere more diamonds underneath

desert sun Apr 30, 2020, 5:57 PM

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why are jellyfish designed the same way

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jellyfish are the only "cosmic" entity outside of vault

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:58 PM

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And the jellyfish are definitely alive

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I'd say that's good evidence that cosmic whales and mantas are living things

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:58 PM

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How are we so sure they are alive?

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 5:58 PM

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How did I forget that correlation

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We're not sure they're living but neither are we sure they're dead, everything we're talking about is pure conjecture

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 5:59 PM

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They float out of the water at the end of forest like they were switched on

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They don’t move around freely

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They are stagnant

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 6:00 PM

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All the jellyfish do that

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Even the baby jellyfish in forest, and the baby jellyfish beneath valley ice rink

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Even the ones in the ascent

desert sun Apr 30, 2020, 6:01 PM

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they jellyfish in prairie (8 player puzzle) also react and move on their own once you get near them

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 6:01 PM

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And they're definitely switched on haha, but we also switch on the praire mantas the same way

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 6:01 PM

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I don't think the translucency is the evidence of the vault mantas being virtual

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Wait what, there's jellyfish in the 8 player area?

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 6:01 PM

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So the existence of jellyfish won't affect my believing the Manta Bone Theory

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 6:02 PM

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There's also jellyfish at the end of forest and they don't move either

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 6:02 PM

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there are many small ones in the room where the flower-Easter egg is

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Ok I’ll give you the jellyfish counter you’re right

desert sun Apr 30, 2020, 6:03 PM

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i just remembered

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the meditate quest for vault says "meditate with spirit mantas"

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are they called "cosmic" or "spirits"

plush moon Apr 30, 2020, 6:04 PM

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If it's spirits..then does it imply they r like ghosts

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 6:04 PM

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this pCosmicManta is called cosmic manta

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heyyyyy I'm going to look at the ice rink jellyfish right now and I just noticed some mantas

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they look the same size as the vault mantas

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 6:06 PM

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I'm fine as long as it is still name manta

mossy bay Apr 30, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Spirit mantas or projection mantas either way it still backs up that they are next to their respective bones InThe vault

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Cosmic manta,prairie manta, eden manta

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Speaking of jellyfish, I think they do go through evolution as well, although getting bigger is the only different

wind bone Apr 30, 2020, 6:08 PM

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It’s spirit manta

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Bc they’re dead

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 6:08 PM

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I avoid making theories based on how they are named

desert sun Apr 30, 2020, 6:09 PM

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so the big bones in vault belonged to the big manta ray ?

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they seem too big for it

wind bone Apr 30, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Possibly

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 6:09 PM

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wind bone Apr 30, 2020, 6:09 PM

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But we don’t really know what the manta ray looked like when alive

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 6:09 PM

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this Elder one

wind bone Apr 30, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Just a small reminder that light creature bones only appear when the creature dies of unnatural causes

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 6:10 PM

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OH HEY I remembered something: the bones in graveyard the rib cages have BIG spikes attached to the spine, but the vault rib cages lacks those

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 6:11 PM

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I avoid making theories based on how they are named
@humble barn I'm with you on this, sub spesies that'll be another topic for me

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 6:12 PM

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how does the elevator work “(...) left it up to interpretation (...) is it real? Is it a dream? Well later in the level we do have something to hint at that
(from Canon Sky Lore doc)
I think this is also relevant to the vault manta theories

wind bone Apr 30, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Well I think it’s pretty clear that spirit mantas mean they’re dead

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Like there’s bones everywhere and you literally get spirit manta voice from baby manta bones

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Seraph we've been told before that the names in game aren't anything we can draw logical conclusions from because the grandma spirit was named so simply because that's how we perceive it

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That was in the season of belonging live stream, I should add that to the canon lore doc now that I think about it

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Just a small reminder that light creature bones only appear when the creature dies of unnatural causes
@wind bone this is new

wind bone Apr 30, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Yeah but

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They’re clearly dead

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 6:14 PM

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As it was pointed out earlier they match the jellyfish in design and those are clearly not dead

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Just a small reminder that light creature bones only appear when the creature dies of unnatural causes
How do we know this is canon? That's from concept art IIRC

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I'm fond of pointing out that the bones the baby cosmic manta hangs out above wouldn't fit inside a manta

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And we know whales and ancestors leave behind remains that would fit inside them if they were alive

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 6:18 PM

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(from Canon Sky Lore doc)
I think this is also relevant to the vault manta theories
@humble barn i was thinking where did i see that before, definitely related

warm fern Apr 30, 2020, 6:21 PM

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a little while ago there was some discussion on how to yeet oneself into the eden whale
I’m here to announce that I just yeeted myself so hard that I lost all wedges upon collision

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so whatever the status of all the other creatures, I think whales are alive when they ascend

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and also very solid

desert sun Apr 30, 2020, 6:22 PM

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lmao im so sorry you had to do that i couldve told u that for you 😂

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 6:23 PM

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I bump on them few times when ascending orbit but I'm pretty sure i didn't lost stars

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And they are solid steel

humble barn Apr 30, 2020, 6:23 PM

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I'll just post this revised-but-still-confusing chart of Manta Bone Theory here and go to bed, see y'all!

📎 mantas2.JPG

desert sun Apr 30, 2020, 6:23 PM

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thats an incredible feat SkyLOL

warm fern Apr 30, 2020, 6:23 PM

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i don’t think you have any stars to lose at that point

desert sun Apr 30, 2020, 6:23 PM

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gn mochi !!

warm fern Apr 30, 2020, 6:24 PM

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just flight power, and that’s easy to refill because you’re in a river of birbs

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 6:24 PM

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@warm fern https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/705254468677140500

desert sun Apr 30, 2020, 6:25 PM

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in eden ^^

warm fern Apr 30, 2020, 6:25 PM

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I’ll record the eden one next time

desert sun Apr 30, 2020, 6:25 PM

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the whale in eden can damage you

hollow pier Apr 30, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Sleep well mochi! SkyHeadpat

warm fern Apr 30, 2020, 6:25 PM

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it’s neat that the wasteland one has no collision

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 6:26 PM

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a little while ago there was some discussion on how to yeet oneself into the eden whale
I’m here to announce that I just yeeted myself so hard that I lost all wedges upon collision
@warm fern oh you were saying wedges, ok got it

desert sun Apr 30, 2020, 6:26 PM

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probably cus you arent meant to get rammed by it

warm fern Apr 30, 2020, 6:26 PM

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yea i meant flight power

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they give you 6 wedges to fly into orbit

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Yeah the vid is misleading, the one at orbit really hit you hard, like bang your head to the big bell

warm fern Apr 30, 2020, 6:28 PM

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lmao

pearl void Apr 30, 2020, 6:28 PM

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I mean the sound

warm fern Apr 30, 2020, 6:29 PM

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come to think of it, is there a way to record with the UI

desert sun Apr 30, 2020, 6:29 PM

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maybe regular screen record?

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not in-game?

night sleet Apr 30, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Regular screen record, yeah

rose yacht Apr 30, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Could sky kids be made out of ceramic? Since the sound they make when skating on ice sounds like a vase sliding 🏺

hushed steeple Apr 30, 2020, 9:19 PM

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maybe new chapters to the game, or at least like a seasonal chapter?

vale axle Apr 30, 2020, 9:36 PM

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@rose yacht They sound a little less “brittle” tho, so maybe something like marble? Idk, I’m just taking a wild guess

rose yacht Apr 30, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Hmm maybe? I find there is a lot of death symbolism so I thought ceramic pThink like urns. But they can be typically made of anything really but most common is ceramic

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Which make sense for them to be hollow which is where light would be?

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stickerHuh

heady sinew Apr 30, 2020, 10:03 PM

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devs said they used something like ceramic/clay/marble for the Skykid calls if I remember correctly

celest spoke Apr 30, 2020, 10:09 PM

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“clay whistle” iirc— ocarina?

desert sun May 1, 2020, 1:44 AM

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is the big beam of light shooting into the sky from the cracked diamond in eden or is it from the light animals migrating to orbit

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bc the light animals going up to orbit is actually near the giant floating ark/castle thing

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but once ur in the eye of eden you dont see it

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or maybe theyre one in the same?

celest spoke May 1, 2020, 1:54 AM

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hmmm— our meeting with shiny boi is “under” the statue field, then we get beamed back up into it and fly up to the castle gate, then down through the castle floor into the terrain that resembles Valley, soar back up through the fall of Wasteland, and from there it’s straight up through the broken crown towers of Eden into Orbit.... could the red diamond be a turbocharged version of Vault’s holo projectors?

humble barn May 1, 2020, 2:33 AM

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I think the beam is from the cracked diamond in Eden.
We usually don't see the beam during the ascent. Also, the thunderclouds above and around the top of the Eden castle are not there. So maybe what we see during the ascent and in the orbit is kind of a different dimension of the world. A skykid during the ascent and in the orbit is a bodiless soul, so what they see there is something perceived through their spiritual eyes.

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zealous summit May 1, 2020, 2:40 AM

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That's a good theory. I've never thought about it like that before

humble barn May 1, 2020, 2:46 AM

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I was mining my screenshots and found these pics. I think this is the only place we can see the "beam" during the ascent, and here the beam is NOT pointing towards the bright sphere in the orbit. Maybe this was unintended, but if it was intentional, then this suggests that the beam and ascending souls are different things.

📎 IMG_0909.JPG

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lilac stone May 1, 2020, 2:46 AM

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I think I saw that mountain in one of journey's murals?

humble barn May 1, 2020, 2:51 AM

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there are a lot of similarities between Journey and Sky but I believe the mountains are not the same

lilac stone May 1, 2020, 2:51 AM

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K

pearl void May 1, 2020, 2:56 AM

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This is the megabird! Jk

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I also dig my pictures, so here shows the light creatures and skykid souls ascending to the orbit and heading to the bright sphere, the beam of light could be the stream of souls ascending

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junior scroll May 1, 2020, 2:59 AM

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beautiful

plush moon May 1, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Does megabird create our bodies?

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We never seem to grow up

humble barn May 1, 2020, 3:04 AM

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maybe

plush moon May 1, 2020, 3:04 AM

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Do u think there is a distinction between yellow and white light

humble barn May 1, 2020, 3:05 AM

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depends on what light you are referring to

plush moon May 1, 2020, 3:06 AM

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For example the power diamonds are white, we and the wings are yellow. In cutscenes the elders seem to emit white light

humble barn May 1, 2020, 3:09 AM

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the power diamonds are usually blue or blueish white, and I think that is distinct

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pure white light is kinda difficult to assess

plush moon May 1, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Like pure energy?

humble barn May 1, 2020, 3:11 AM

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more like artificial energy

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blue means death in Sky so

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like "lifeless" or "dead" energy

pearl void May 1, 2020, 3:12 AM

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It just occur to me that the bright sphere on the sky is actually the gate of orbit

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plush moon May 1, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Maybe the return portal glows white

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..then is that artificial too?

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I would suppose megabird made it...

humble barn May 1, 2020, 3:14 AM

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i don't think the gate emits blue light

pearl void May 1, 2020, 3:14 AM

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blue means death in Sky so
@humble barn i second this, the spirits, the elders are blue, it may suggest blue is also darkness, the dark plants and transition to black is the most corrupted, the krill and crabs

plush moon May 1, 2020, 3:15 AM

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Isn't the ball of light in the Ascension white

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Maybe white just means power...

humble barn May 1, 2020, 3:15 AM

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@pearl void yeah actually "blue means death" came from devs

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i am just lazy to find the source

plush moon May 1, 2020, 3:16 AM

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When we give light to the elders they glow white. The murals in the vault glow white...

humble barn May 1, 2020, 3:16 AM

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I think the bright sphere is this and the gate is also inside this thing

📎 IMG_0919.JPG

plush moon May 1, 2020, 3:16 AM

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Yea...it is white.

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And then the stars around it are yellow like a less pure version of the energy

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The creatures all have yellow light I'm not sure about the whale

humble barn May 1, 2020, 3:17 AM

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I think white light is pure and strong light, and could be either blue or yellow

plush moon May 1, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Oh yeah that works so blue is like artificial light and yellow light is life light

humble barn May 1, 2020, 3:18 AM

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iirc yellow and red represent life

plush moon May 1, 2020, 3:18 AM

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The absence of any light is blue and gray

pearl void May 1, 2020, 3:21 AM

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i am just lazy to find the source
@humble barn yeah i know where the source is, and megabird represent as bright orange, which suggest that we are related to megabird because skykid have a bit of orange colour, the descendant as the dev said it

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When we give light to the elders they glow white. The murals in the vault glow white...
@plush moon the colour transition before orange is white, suggest that the colour purest form of energy

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@humble barn i second this, the spirits, the elders are blue, it may suggest blue is also darkness, the dark plants and transition to black is the most corrupted, the krill and crabs
@pearl void and if we relate blue, dark blue specifically, as darkness to the colour of the elders, it can be suggest that the elder have darkness in them too, which tie to the whole theory about elders draining light creatures to harvest light

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I think I've written it somewhere

https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/705233038782496839

plush moon May 1, 2020, 3:48 AM

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I heard of negative light (krill) which is black. I think no light is simply gray. The elders aren't necessarily dark but not light either @pearl void

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@pearl void and if we relate blue, dark blue specifically, as darkness to the colour of the elders, it can be suggest that the elder have darkness in them too, which tie to the whole theory about elders draining light creatures to harvest light
@pearl void a simple flame was enough to revitalize them. The energy from the creatures went to power diamonds

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Have you heard about the war theory?

heady sinew May 1, 2020, 4:15 AM

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The darkness the elders have must be the one that made them fall off the nightsky in the first place

heady sequoia May 1, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Hmm

humble barn May 1, 2020, 4:56 AM

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The elders should have darkness in them but the their blue tint may simply imply they are dead

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I also found this fun: The orbit gate is solid but invisible when we get close

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maybe the light is just too bright

exotic shuttle May 1, 2020, 5:09 AM

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if we're children of the light, is The Light our parent?
and is The Light the big birb?

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:09 AM

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It could be symbolic too just in the sense we are flames and children

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Maybe...but name symbolism can be tricky sometimes

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But that's an interesting point and you can try going down the trail of concepts to think of something new

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But if we are children of the birb then how does that be consistent with the elders and the spirits

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Like I heard somewhere we are their descendants...but I don't remember the source so that also asks are we related

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Then what is our relationship to civilization

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Or are we simply another species...

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:14 AM

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the running theory is this (concerning megabird):

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the elders, skykids, and spirits are different species/subspecies, yet we were all created and given light via megabird

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for example, skykids were made with the sole purpose of bringing the "lost stars home" (evidenced by intro)

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:15 AM

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We are just tools ;-;

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:16 AM

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hehe if you want to get meta about it 😳

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then basically yes

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Then megabird...is like god it creates matter and life

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Like the universe but I suppose it's origins are too ambiguous to theorize about it

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:17 AM

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presumably, as in thats the most we can discern from the old concept art and lore for megabird

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Is megabird the ruler of the universe or its ....creator

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Cuz this changes the existence of darkness

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:17 AM

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exactly

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Did it create darkness

heady sinew May 1, 2020, 5:18 AM

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I once said megabird is Sky's milky way SkyLOL

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:18 AM

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megabird has never been stated to create darkness; only light

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Like in order for light there was darkness

heady sinew May 1, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Everyone is a part of the Megabird

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:18 AM

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darkness origins have still been unknown

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Yin yang thing darkness needs light vice versa

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Then it's not simply caused by the storm but a natural event

heady sinew May 1, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Like an Oreo, you can't have an oreo without the dark parts, or the cream

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:19 AM

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If I said that to my classmates they won't take me seriously

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Analogy to eastern philosophy OREO

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What is space then if the megabird is the ball of light

heady sinew May 1, 2020, 5:20 AM

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There are 11 Oreos in a normal pack btw.
Anyway, I think of Megabird as a milky way and a sort of god at the same time

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And the ball of light could be it's core?

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:20 AM

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What is the permanent darkness...of outerspace

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Is it connected to megabird or another unconscious existence

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:21 AM

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oreo is a metaphor for the sky universe SkyThink

humble barn May 1, 2020, 5:21 AM

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I think Megabird is the life itself, she is powerful but not an omnipotent god, and is not the creator of the universe
She may have created skykids tho

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:21 AM

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^ thats how i see it

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Is she also death

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There's no life if there's no death

humble barn May 1, 2020, 5:21 AM

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No I don't think so

heady sinew May 1, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Cycles is more like it

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:21 AM

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I think she facilitates the life cycle

humble barn May 1, 2020, 5:21 AM

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death is absence of life

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Yea rebirth

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:22 AM

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mmhm

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Then do sky creatures die?

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Or are they reborn...as a corrupted existence

humble barn May 1, 2020, 5:22 AM

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their bodies die

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and their souls recycle

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:22 AM

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i think the old concepts had it that people would make a pilgrimage to visit megabird in orbit and be reborn again to go and revisit, as a cycle

heady sinew May 1, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Also the credits finish with all the stars and a transition to candle. It's simple but the first time I saw it I got a "light is everything, we are all the candle's fire, and the candle's fire is inside us too" message

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:23 AM

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and their souls recycle
@humble barn as what exactly is there a connection to the krill corrupted manta theory

humble barn May 1, 2020, 5:23 AM

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and their souls sometimes trapped on the ground

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Also the credits finish with all the stars and a transition to candle. It's simple but the first time I saw it I got a "light is everything, we are all the candle's fire, and the candle's fire is inside us too" message
@heady sinew but what is the darkness the candle lights up?? Is it just empty space without light

humble barn May 1, 2020, 5:24 AM

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corruption happens while they are still alive

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:24 AM

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Then how can it interact with light

heady sinew May 1, 2020, 5:24 AM

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SkyThink

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Food for thought

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:24 AM

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corruption happens while they are still alive
@humble barn hey that connects with evolution thing there are more birds and butterflies than mantas

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If they die they're severely downgraded

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:25 AM

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corruption? this is new :o

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Are there any theories about the darkness spores? Or corruption. I would assume that these existed before the storm

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:26 AM

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i think dark and light coexisted in the world bc we have seen spirits interact with dark creatures

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unless they interact post-storm

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:27 AM

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As for life does every creature an extension of the megabird or just a creation...so is megabird omniscient and/ or all-powerful

humble barn May 1, 2020, 5:27 AM

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the souls are parts of megabird

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:28 AM

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feel like if megabird was omniscient we wouldnt be here

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Bc it seems like the elders tried to replicate the megabirds power or omniscience. Maybe that's where the holograms come in...

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They tried to replicate life...

humble barn May 1, 2020, 5:29 AM

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but the physical bodies are not usually created by megabird, they are born naturally

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:29 AM

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From life

heady sinew May 1, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Trying to play god hUh SkyThink

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:30 AM

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So our bodies...are born from where?

humble barn May 1, 2020, 5:30 AM

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skykids are kinda exception, they could be the creation of megabird

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:30 AM

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If they aren't made by megabird then megabird isn't all-powerful since it doesn't control everything

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So what exactly are those bodies or matter made of

humble barn May 1, 2020, 5:30 AM

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bc the way skykids are born do not seem natural

heady sinew May 1, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Maybe darkness is physical, after all you float over mantas but can't really touch them

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:31 AM

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there is a theory that skykids are hybridizations of light and dark

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:31 AM

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So like the creatures...maybe the bodies are automatically constructed through natural laws the elders discovered thru code

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:31 AM

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hence why you hug a light part of yourself post eden

humble barn May 1, 2020, 5:31 AM

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the people were there since before the elders fell from the sky

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:32 AM

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Maybe it's like a chemical reaction: two conditions for a soul and the earth dimension

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Then the elders made it a science

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Through observations and the scientific method

humble barn May 1, 2020, 5:32 AM

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yeah like humans

heady sinew May 1, 2020, 5:33 AM

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In the Intro cutscene the drawing that's meant to be the skykid is a pale blue (same shade as a spirit I believe) and then a winged light is drawn on top of it.
What if a Skykid is an intact vessel from the Eden Storm/explosion that got blessed with the raw light of megabird

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:33 AM

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So like the bodies containing the soul they made vessels for light essence

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I think that kids are autonomous since they are guided by us. There's no blessing. Just coincidence the light fell on it

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If that then why collect winged lights in the first place

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:34 AM

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the cutscene does state that a figure is talking to us and giving us life, "a long time has passed, now i call to you child"

heady sinew May 1, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Yeah you have a point SkyThink

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:35 AM

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What puzzles me is that the megabird is telepathic yet it takes a sort of distant position

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It simply sees and chooses when to intervene

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Then does it have a personality

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:36 AM

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maybe it cant directly interact with the world?

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:36 AM

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And that personality transfers to the elders?

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So it's conciousness is not only contained but spread out

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Across all the creatures like a nervous system

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:37 AM

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the funny part is that we arent even sure if megabird exists as a real in-game concept SkyLOL theres no murals, no direct in-game reference (besides orbit and post credits) and no dev confirmation yet

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:37 AM

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So if it can affect the world does the world affect it. Like if the world is dark is it dark

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Megabird...isn't it in the opening scene...the narrator

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It's above the clouds and if we go above the clouds we go to a ball of light

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Nm I'm gonna face palm

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:38 AM

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yes, and itd be real easy to say it was megabird in the opening cutscene if we werent given this thing instead

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youd think itd be a bird... but no we have a person

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SHRUG

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:39 AM

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OH NO

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For real tho the constellations confuse me...so the shiny guy is connected to the stars (elders) and to the constellations (spirits)

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Then what are the spirits? Archetypes?

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And we see people resembling this archetype (the emote) in the world

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So the emote is like an archetype composing the necessary parts of the constellations..hence the elders world

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But then how did they exist outside the world before it began or were they blank slates given meaning

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Like placeholders

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:41 AM

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i guess, spirits existed on the earth below orbit, elders fell from orbit because of ""darkness"", the spirits praised them as higher beings bc they literally fell from heaven, elders took power.. etc

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:41 AM

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But the constellations.....what are they conscious???

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:41 AM

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so spirits were inhabitants of earth and elders are inhabitants of orbit

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:41 AM

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But then why do they become part of constellations

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:41 AM

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the constellations represent elders most likely

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Constellations that exist before the civilization was even born

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:42 AM

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hm

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:42 AM

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I know there's obviously a connection not sure of congruency

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:42 AM

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mayhaps its a for symbolism reasons? if those symbols werent there then wed have no clue what was going on

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as in we wouldn't know they were elders

humble barn May 1, 2020, 5:43 AM

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probably the murals are not drawn by elders themselves

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:43 AM

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^^

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:43 AM

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By megabird lmao

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He drew them with his feet

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Chicken feet

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:44 AM

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we see spirits drawing murals as well, moreso with the new ark

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EW LOL

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but yeah, the whole opening cutscene is kinda a mess trying to grasp it

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and dont get me started on the 7th star

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SkyScared

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:45 AM

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I want to be a good person.... ;-;

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:46 AM

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lol its okay SkyHeadpat

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:46 AM

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What are the murals made of though

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Like what's the paint

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:46 AM

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supposedly, pure light

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:46 AM

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I remember the shipwreck in the wasteland...it had murals on it

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Like did a spirit wander there: aight time to draw

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:47 AM

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they probably made the murals to document events

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:47 AM

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When it's supposed to be dead

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Honestly it could be megabird...

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Communicating us through the environment

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Maybe it can control how we perceive things

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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🤔 interesting theory actually

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Like we can detect each other

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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it would still contradict that we see spirits drawing murals themselves

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but still interesting

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Maybe auras like the winged lights

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True...

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But I can be floppy and saw that the birb plagiarized their style

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That sounds a bit stupid...but that shipwreck...

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How...

pearl void May 1, 2020, 5:50 AM

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@plush moon you should really digest your thought instead spreading them out like a big question. After that slowly connects them, finally make a hypothesis, a more guided thoughts and evebtually have an answer

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I mean I'm reading your thoughts and come to no conclusion

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Hmmm...I guess ..there's pros and cons like the pro is a group brainstorm con is yes that...

pearl void May 1, 2020, 5:50 AM

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I have to slowly connects bits and bits

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:51 AM

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And then have an epiphany?

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:52 AM

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hmm

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lets start with a big question then

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what do you guys think killed the spirits? was it a gradual process or all at once?

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Another question: Where do they get pure light from to paint murals...kill the creatures? Then was this like primitive tech

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:53 AM

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i feel like spirits could naturally do things like that, if upgraded emotes are anything to go by

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since spirits are made of light

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:55 AM

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I think the spirits are just people..whose moments are represented by emotes...to bestow upon the children a sense of history and personality. Megabird captured them from history from the sea of souls and placed them there, contained in shells of darkness maybe to reflect the current state of the civilization

desert sun May 1, 2020, 5:56 AM

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if megabird is real and the reason, then they wouldn't be able to create darkness to contain the spirit

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that is interesting though, i forgot about that

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why do we have to burn darkness inside a spirit? is that a hint to how they died?

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Maybe the darkness naturally attached to them like spores to butterfly pots and the golden prairie spires

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:02 AM

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I didn’t bother back reading anything today, and I don’t think I said anything today either, usually I talk a lot in this chat
But for all u active ppl, did reika or ash show up today? And if they did can someone sum up what they said

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:03 AM

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No idea

humble barn May 1, 2020, 6:03 AM

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no they didn't

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Mkay

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Any good theories?

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:07 AM

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I just realized that the golden wasteland was an industrial center yes? Maybe it was built there because there was an abundant of light creatures until they exhausted the local supply and had to ship from the priarie. The krills either vengeful or simply attracted to the light attacked the factories, leading there to be an army stationed there

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Until it proved too costly to maintain and it started shutting down..and that's when the war and more krills came

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:10 AM

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That actually connects to a theory a long time ago
Bc of the fact that the narrator said “if only they had listened” and the mass production of evil artificial power I think there were rebellions made attempting to stop this before it gets out of hand. These diamonds of power were jus evil and in the battlefield there are circular shields that had the natural light symbol on it opposing to the diamond symbol. This gives a motive as to why they fought

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Yes it was a prime example of the evil of power diamonds

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The forest wasn't as bad because there were mountains to block krill

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Sadly it seems the artificial side won

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Yep and they ruined everything.

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The vault seems to have all the newest tech...

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Maybe they built it after they won the war

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Also another thing
Wasteland elder constellation has diamond shield but the cutscene and shrine shows him with the light shield
Theory time, wasteland elder started off as a supporter of the artificial side but after a while he knew it was wrong and supported the natural light side, eventually using the circular shield

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Maybe to appease the other faction they created simulations of extinct creatures

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Hence vault of knowledge

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That fits with the body language of the cut scene. He seems brave, honorable and selfless

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Also, like u said wasteland has factories and part of my other theory, there’s a diamond press inside wasteland thats a lot bigger than the one in forest. There are also other factories on the side of the map. My guess is that wasteland was the peak of industry and this is where the mass production of diamonds got out of hand

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:16 AM

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The forest had more variety...didn't the elder have an anvil

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Another theory is that Bc of greed and lust for even more power
They stopped using butterflies and ended up using more powerful light creatures, perhaps the creatures in graveyard

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Yea I covered that with another person glad that its holding up

jovial nacelle May 1, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Has anyone noticed the pillars near the gate to the vault of knowledge looks like the king?

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Ye

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:18 AM

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OH the king endorsed the project then the light faction really was a rebellion. It was an actual civil war

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Although there is no confirmation on him being in game anymore, these building designs could’ve stayed in the game without having a reference to the king

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But, if he was, it would explain a lot

humble barn May 1, 2020, 6:18 AM

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@sly kestrel I think our Manta Bone Theory from yesterday is the most recent breakthrough but it was really controversial and I haven't prepared a comprehensive chart with pictures

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:19 AM

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True...they can just be motifs like statues of angels. These are just statues of humanoids

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Controversial?

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:19 AM

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I mean, they’ve done concept keeping before
The old concept art of the praire mask and forest mask is still on their temple

humble barn May 1, 2020, 6:20 AM

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many of you didn't believe in the theory

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:20 AM

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I believe it now lol

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I went to the vault and paid more attention

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:20 AM

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The civil war theory was something I was always interested in
Even before I got into power diamonds

humble barn May 1, 2020, 6:20 AM

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being controversial is not a bad thing

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:20 AM

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I never knew those 2 theories would merge one day

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Btw I got on the power diamond above the elevator...it didn't heal my wings

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Did u guys do the same?

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Game mechanics are expensive ya kno

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:21 AM

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;-;

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Yet they made a bunch of extra spaces..

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That made me suffer and pull out a guide

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:23 AM

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For example
Reika says a lot of things about environmental design but never actually put the meshes there, but in the sky world view, they are there
Ugh it’s hard to explain

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:23 AM

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Oof

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:24 AM

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LIKE.....out of bounds
If u go outside of isle of dawn, u can’t see all the way to praire, but u kno it’s there. There’s jus no extra unnecessary design

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:24 AM

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Earlier we discussed white light vs blue light vs yellow light

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:24 AM

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Ok that’s new

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:25 AM

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White is pure strong energy from the birb. Blue is artificial. Yellow is life light the impure version of white light

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Maybe the elders tried to create white light but failed and created a new type of light

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:26 AM

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....

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I think I had enough lore chat for today

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:27 AM

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The elders and the life sphere are white light. We and wings are yellow. Blue is like the power diamonds...

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Goodnight Lofi music

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Is it bad? I mean i think it's something to note...

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Also I have a habit of nicknaming people.....I hope u don’t mind 😔

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Blue light is closer to white light than yellow light

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:27 AM

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And no it’s not bad don’t worry

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:28 AM

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Concentrated yellow light is close to white light so it's like yellow > blue > white which can explain why the elders try to build a bigger power diamond. This correlates with power. Yellow is easier exhaustable (due to naturally occurence of Ascension and rebirth and renewal) and it progresses from there. so it's like the creation of blue light and the quest for white light is like severing ties with Birb and trying to fix the everturning cycle of life by denying death. they want to be self-sustainable. maybe this relates to some kind of motivation. maybe they were prideful, jealous, or even angry at Birb for banishing them or just ambitious

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Also I have a habit of nicknaming people.....I hope u don’t mind 😔
@sly kestrel I don't have much to work with...that isn't fair

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:28 AM

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So u don’t mind me calling u lofi music

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:28 AM

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Nope

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:)

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:31 AM

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I have nicknames for almost everyone tbh
Mocha frap
Yankee with no brim
Vibe check
Vibrato
Shopping list
Etc

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But anyways, I’m sort of agreeing with ur theory on the different types of lights

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Keep it up

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:31 AM

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I bet these nicknames are longer than the actual nicknames

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Goodnight lofi

plush moon May 1, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Nightie

hollow pier May 1, 2020, 7:25 AM

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How do I not have a nickname yet

plush moon May 1, 2020, 7:29 AM

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Because ur name is good enough already.

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No idea how to pronounce it though can think like of three different ways

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 7:51 AM

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Technically

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Ur username is a nickname

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It literally translates to wise old man

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What else am I supposed to say?
wise YOUNG MAN?

hushed steeple May 1, 2020, 7:56 AM

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wise elder

pearl void May 1, 2020, 7:59 AM

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White is pure strong energy from the birb. Blue is artificial. Yellow is life light the impure version of white light
@plush moon Blue light is associate to death or darkness which i refer to, not artificial, the illustrator mentioned that

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Any good theories?
@sly kestrel https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/705400144287498292

This is what mochi was saying about the manta bone theory

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 8:10 AM

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Ooou one detail I should tell u

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The archive u are referring to

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Is a place inside vault

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Not the whole vault itself

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The archive is the 2 person door where the belonging spirit was
It is a place that is forbidden and contains forbidden knowledge

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The dev ur referring to that said that
I’m pretty sure it was reika

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And the decay over time that revealed it
It’s actually referring to how the belonging spirit got into the archive. Decay and ruin is how the belonging spirit snuck into that place

potent copper May 1, 2020, 9:06 AM

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Has anyone ever noticed that, when you light a spirit to relive their memorie, the game counts that as burning one darkness?
Not sure, what to make out of this but maybe that helps some of you with your own theories, about how the spirits died. skyShrug

humble barn May 1, 2020, 9:11 AM

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@potent copper https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/705297144378294292

pearl void May 1, 2020, 9:37 AM

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The dev ur referring to that said that
I’m pretty sure it was reika
@sly kestrel oh yes it was Reika along with Yui if I catch his name right during the interview

pearl void May 1, 2020, 9:55 AM

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When i first heard it, my initial thought was, oh the vault is decaying, because it can't be decaying only one part but as a whole

storm wren May 1, 2020, 12:52 PM

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A krill in forgotten ark

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Maybe the one painted on ark

mighty siren May 1, 2020, 12:57 PM

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Guys I'm a little lazy to process in the theories before. Where are we Skykids from. In the beginning scene, it tells us to wake up and bring the lost stars home. And the only "adults" are the ancestor spirits, which are probably dead. There is no clue of our early childhood, just waking up. We can only express ourselves through emotes learnt, so do we not have our own identity? Every child goes through the same experience, does this mean we are all chosen for the same task? Or is everything all just a false stimulation. ( idk what i just wrote)

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and yeah i think in the belonging spirit vault area, it is decaying. Multiple holes in the ground leading to the bottom levels ( would that mean that previously the forbidden knowledge was sealed, never to be opened again ever ) And a big hole as our exit. The rest of the Sky world is also in ruins, so maybe that implements the stars couldn't survive seperated and eventually their architecture crumbled.

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Help

storm wren May 1, 2020, 1:02 PM

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We may be just created

mighty siren May 1, 2020, 1:02 PM

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my brain is about to explode

storm wren May 1, 2020, 1:02 PM

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Like the awakening of nun in Egyptian mythology

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Nun existed in eternal see but when he accidentally met himself (actually Amon) he realised he existed and was born as a god

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We may be the same way

mighty siren May 1, 2020, 1:03 PM

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maybe

storm wren May 1, 2020, 1:03 PM

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We are light that already exist but someone (our mother?) awakens us

mighty siren May 1, 2020, 1:03 PM

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so were we all in a coma like state until that day

storm wren May 1, 2020, 1:04 PM

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Kinda he’s

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Yes*

mighty siren May 1, 2020, 1:04 PM

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or do we come of age and get our hair cut like that, put to sleep and our memories removed, then blooped to random island

storm wren May 1, 2020, 1:04 PM

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Probably no

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Like we exist as light

mighty siren May 1, 2020, 1:05 PM

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why the default hair

storm wren May 1, 2020, 1:05 PM

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Like a candle fire

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And someone creates us into a form and wakes us

mighty siren May 1, 2020, 1:05 PM

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so we would be farming our own wax :0

storm wren May 1, 2020, 1:05 PM

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It looks like a female haircut tho

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So maybe our mother creates us just like her

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Idk I always liked to imagine this game like a mythology

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I will gather some Mythos and publish here lol

mighty siren May 1, 2020, 1:06 PM

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All our looks are replicating the spirits and elders, is it tradition

storm wren May 1, 2020, 1:07 PM

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I mean we don’t even know how to do this and they teach us to emote

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So we may be just copying them

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We even may be like Valkyries

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To awaken fallen spirits

mighty siren May 1, 2020, 1:09 PM

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skyShrug who knows

spice kernel May 1, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Skykids have hearts

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Officially confirmed

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📎 Screenshot_20200501-210217_Discord.jpg

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What can we make of this? Or have we already?

calm flax May 1, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Wait, for me i usually heard like a tapping sound, like if someone was tapping something hollow, and it has bothered me, cause I don't know what it is

sinful oxide May 1, 2020, 2:28 PM

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There is a heartbeat when near a friend or holding hands. I've heard it on my earbuds

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Also, hi! I'm new to the server

strong crag May 1, 2020, 2:29 PM

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@sinful oxide what rlly

hushed steeple May 1, 2020, 2:29 PM

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i think devs confirmed somewhere they designed friends to have heartbeat sounds

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i forgot which devstream/article it is

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i never really noticed it but i kinda remember it somehow

zealous summit May 1, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Welcome to S.H.I.E.L.D, Valkyrie.

lilac stone May 1, 2020, 2:37 PM

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no

hushed steeple May 1, 2020, 2:37 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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Apparently yes it's confirmed by the devs in Osaka Fan Meet Q&A, found in Nagati's posts in the pins @spice kernel

lilac stone May 1, 2020, 2:38 PM

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fishtail fishbody fishahead krillhead krillbody krillatail

zealous summit May 1, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Battle of the century right there ^

lilac stone May 1, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Oh, you're approaching me?

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Instead of running away, your coming near me?

zealous summit May 1, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Who are you talking to?

lilac stone May 1, 2020, 2:39 PM

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I'm just creating a dialogue lol

zealous summit May 1, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Oh, ok lol

lilac stone May 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Even though your friend turtle told you about the secret of absorbing light?

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Like an skykid scrambling to hide themselves before I hit them?

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Whale

zealous summit May 1, 2020, 2:41 PM

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His name is Big Jimbo

lilac stone May 1, 2020, 2:41 PM

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I can't hit you without coming closer

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Krill

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Oh ho!

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Then come as close as you like

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fishtail fishbody fishahead krillhead krillbody krillatail

livid crypt May 1, 2020, 2:42 PM

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@lilac stone this isn't the ideal channel for monologuing/rp, maybe write it down?

lilac stone May 1, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Ok

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I will make it later

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If only there was a fanfic channel

mighty siren May 1, 2020, 2:51 PM

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:DDDD

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Tehe JOJO

lilac stone May 1, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Krill: WRYYYOAR

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A mix wry and the roar

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Krills are basically vampires

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Right?

zealous summit May 1, 2020, 2:59 PM

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No...?

fathom badge May 1, 2020, 3:00 PM

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?? Same building
@sly kestrel I'm extremely late to answer this but I think it's the temple in the forest. The swirly lines and the columns are trees. Or this could be the wasteland before it got polluted ¯_ (ツ)_/¯

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Reika said it was a different building but the one in wasteland sort of had the same motif

plush moon May 1, 2020, 5:14 PM

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why are there red candles and white candles? why the difference?

wind bone May 1, 2020, 5:41 PM

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White candles are triggers for cutscenes and such

sturdy gate May 1, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Here’s a closeup of a bird

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neon kelp May 1, 2020, 7:05 PM

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fishtail fishbody fishahead krillhead krillbody krillatail

hushed steeple May 1, 2020, 7:35 PM

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do u guys think they'll ever add like seasonal chapter, i mean they kinda added a new area for this season, why not a new chapter for a season?

cold steppe May 1, 2020, 7:51 PM

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what do you mean by chapter?

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like extend the season?

zealous summit May 1, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Do you mean like Isle of Dawn? Another Area like that?

nova tiger May 1, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Did you realize that

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The prairie temple

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The place we stand on

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It’s shaped like a big big pot

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 8:24 PM

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whAT

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I need da screenshots

nova tiger May 1, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Wait wait

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Lemme get my iPad

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It’s somewhere on my camera rolls

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Wait a sec hh m breth

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Here

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📎 image0.jpg 📎 image1.jpg

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Looks like a big big pot to me

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@sly kestrel

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Hdjsjcsi sorry for ping

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 8:32 PM

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AHHH UR RIGHT

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Big pot

nova tiger May 1, 2020, 8:35 PM

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b i g p o t

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I wonder how many butterflies were in that

plush moon May 1, 2020, 8:43 PM

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I wonder how many butterflies were in that
@nova tiger plot twist those aren't for butterflies :)

nova tiger May 1, 2020, 8:45 PM

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oh god

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pWhale pManta pEyes pEyes

sturdy gate May 1, 2020, 8:49 PM

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What?

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Then what is in those? 😮

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Stick a whole manta in there 😳

glossy egret May 1, 2020, 10:19 PM

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i always wondered if journey and sky had a connection

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what do yall think?

zealous summit May 1, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Never really played Journey

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I wouldn't know

wind bone May 1, 2020, 10:50 PM

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They don’t

terse arch May 1, 2020, 10:52 PM

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they don't, but they do seem very similar in terms of exploring ruins, falling from the sky like a star and getting smashed by angry things

wind bone May 1, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Yeah they both follow the hero’s journey storytelling

plush moon May 1, 2020, 11:00 PM

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What's the difference between the wasteland's style of production vs the hidden forest's. Both produce power diamonds yet wasteland seems to have a sludge by-product while the forest doesn't

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Does it mean that the larger the light creature is the more darkness it produces when it dies? Like wasteland uses larger light creatures (mural showing a skeleton) while the forest simply uses butterflies?

nova tiger May 1, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Wasteland had a graveyard too

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And a battlefield

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So we’re not exactly sure how the goo stuff appeared

plush moon May 1, 2020, 11:18 PM

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Yea...there's a theory that power diamonds is made from light and stone and to get light they trapped light creatures and stole their essence leading to a diposal system (aquaduct diposing the leftovers in the ocean (

sly kestrel May 1, 2020, 11:19 PM

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“There’s a theory”
Hi lofi

plush moon May 1, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Cuz if this true: the more light a creature has then the more darkness it has....then I have a working theory that all creatures have a balance of light and dark. That's why there's leftovers of darkness when all light was removed

glossy egret May 1, 2020, 11:20 PM

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i feel like sky is actually earth but seen from the children's eyes. it makes a lot of sense to me, since we know that we are actually young because of the emotes; what i mean is that we learn how to express ourselves through the spirits (the adults), cause without them, the sky children would never be able to know how to communicate. (the emotes!) and even tho the game is about connection and humanity, i think it says that pure human beings (the children, in that case) are this planet (sky) saviors. maybe im out of my mind rn but i just tought about that, im someone who really likes to think about real life situations in games

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myvhand hurst help me

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oh boi

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i marked the wrong message

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sorry

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i rushed

plush moon May 1, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Eh I'm reading this it's ok I get it...

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I also think that emotes arent just a game mechanic but part of the lore and symbolism

glossy egret May 1, 2020, 11:23 PM

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thats what i said

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in my theory, the emotes shows us that we need someone to help us to learn

plush moon May 1, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Yes...but I always wondered why I can't copy someone else's emote...cuz that's how peer pressure works lol

glossy egret May 1, 2020, 11:24 PM

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lmao but i think that would break the game point

plush moon May 1, 2020, 11:25 PM

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:)

glossy egret May 1, 2020, 11:25 PM

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i mean, finding the spirits is one of the mechanics

plush moon May 1, 2020, 11:25 PM

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I know I was joking 😂

glossy egret May 1, 2020, 11:25 PM

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if we could just learn the emotes from other children, looking for the spirits would make no sense

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oh

plush moon May 1, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Peer pressure...I copy other ppl cuz I'm terrified of being judged...that's part of life lol

glossy egret May 1, 2020, 11:26 PM

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deep

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sky also works as a metaphor for life

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people die and born everyday and they have one objective at all

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dying

plush moon May 1, 2020, 11:27 PM

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I had a theory that megabird was teaching us history and personality through the spirits...random people representing the aspects of life of each area

glossy egret May 1, 2020, 11:28 PM

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man, creating theories is really cool

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never tried it before

plush moon May 1, 2020, 11:29 PM

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dying
@glossy egret
Why not living. People say that the point of life is to die but I believe that's shortsighted. U have an existence you can affect others and create meaning. Acting like you are self contained existence and acting like it has no reason to exist doesn't acknowledge that...

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Why do we need a reason to exist to not exist when we can make our own reason to exist.

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Never got nihilism...but I'm not a philosopher so I'm prob missing something

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never tried it before
@glossy egret dude it's fun...but I do it too much. I got called out for thought dumping (not that its a bad thingg - the criticism i mean)

glossy egret May 1, 2020, 11:33 PM

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@glossy egret
Why not living. People say that the point of life is to die but I believe that's shortsighted. U have an existence you can affect others and create meaning. Acting like you are self contained existence and acting like it has no reason to exist doesn't acknowledge that...
@plush moon i think a lot about long term explanations for all kind of things, so everthing you do on earth today or later, in some time it will be forgot, all your relatives and friends are gonna die too and the world is more than 3 billion years old already, and i think it will "live" for more few billion years too. im forking nihilist and i cant avoid it at all c;

plush moon May 1, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Wanna take this to dm? I don't want to clog up this chat but I'm interested.

glossy egret May 1, 2020, 11:34 PM

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so the light children are stuck in a cycle of life forever basically..........

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ofc

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dm me

drifting copper May 1, 2020, 11:58 PM

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death is a part of life so living to die is pretty much part of it

glossy egret May 2, 2020, 12:14 AM

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what do you think that living stands for?

drifting copper May 2, 2020, 12:37 AM

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being free, do whatever

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sadly skykids can’t be free they’ll always have to stick to their mission dhhddjbd

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they’ve yet to complete it

arctic turret May 2, 2020, 12:38 AM

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That's a sad thought

plush moon May 2, 2020, 12:38 AM

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like us...i have to mission to be a human when i want to be a cat

drifting copper May 2, 2020, 12:38 AM

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destiny and fate was already organised for them

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for us we mostly choose our destiny

arctic turret May 2, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Yeah, they were born(?) for a purpose

drifting copper May 2, 2020, 12:38 AM

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mhm

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us humans don’t have a mission though

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everything that’s happened to the world are our decisions and not a set task

arctic turret May 2, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Well, only if we set goals for ourselves but it's not compulsory to live by a certain rule if you get what I mean

drifting copper May 2, 2020, 12:39 AM

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mhm

arctic turret May 2, 2020, 12:40 AM

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The basic is just surviving first, then do what you can to improve that living condition

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That's just my thought

raw barn May 2, 2020, 12:58 AM

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i just die for ascended candles

plush moon May 2, 2020, 1:07 AM

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i just die for ascended candles
@raw barn yes that happens ;)

arctic turret May 2, 2020, 1:07 AM

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It's part of the game

raw barn May 2, 2020, 1:09 AM

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is there a lore abt this game

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or are we going to find out the story???

plush moon May 2, 2020, 1:10 AM

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I had this theory that all creatures are made of light and darkness. light is the soul. darkness is the body. Thats why we turn gray in the absence of light, and killed mantas leave behind darkness like that in the wasteland (when deprived of their light)

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Darkness doesn't steal light but absorbs it and contains it, which connects to krills who may want to take light to turn back to mantas. the light doesn't disappear. it is just contained, so it's like a cycle - discharge of light - darkness absorbs

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So darkness creates a boundary or a container for light..since it absorbs it, creating a definite form

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The natural order requires a balance, leading to the artificial creation of the sludge and the otherworldly existence of ascended skykids...life is like yellow light and gray matter, representing white light and pitch black darkness...

arctic turret May 2, 2020, 1:18 AM

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..that felt deep

plush moon May 2, 2020, 1:19 AM

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thanks

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 1:19 AM

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Yes there is a lot of lore and I know a lot
This is a very detailed story.....BUT
We will only have confirmed details given to us little by little

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Other then that

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We jus theorize

plush moon May 2, 2020, 1:20 AM

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cuz it's fun

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 1:20 AM

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And like what ash said
A lot of things are WAFO’s

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Wait and find out

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🙂

plush moon May 2, 2020, 1:20 AM

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....i'll die till then

twilit forge May 2, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Is there somewhere we can read about the lore so far?

plush moon May 2, 2020, 1:21 AM

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yea see the pinned messages

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there are links to google docs of established lores and running theories

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 1:23 AM

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We have rlly good theories here too 🥺

plush moon May 2, 2020, 1:23 AM

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too bad they're buried

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 1:23 AM

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nah I saved all of em

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Jus waiting to see if they confirmed or not

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Everytime a devy comes I ask a tiny detail each time

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So I learn more and more

plush moon May 2, 2020, 1:24 AM

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lol and then u just throw it out to the chat

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 1:24 AM

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If this keeps up
I’ll BE LORE MASTER
AHAHAHAH

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Nah I saved a lot of stuff to myself

plush moon May 2, 2020, 1:24 AM

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just practice your profile pic

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 1:24 AM

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I only present theories when I have a lot of confirmed details and proof and other stuff

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My profile pic is FINE

plush moon May 2, 2020, 1:25 AM

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practice it..

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Right person is life
And left person is me
Life slaps me everyday

plush moon May 2, 2020, 1:26 AM

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and i bet u like it

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 1:26 AM

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But like fr tho
I have a lot of theories locked up in my notes, when I have enough proof and believable statements, THATS when I present them

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Ur weird

plush moon May 2, 2020, 1:27 AM

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tru i just throw things out? should i change that?

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... ;-;

pearl void May 2, 2020, 1:59 AM

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do u guys think they'll ever add like seasonal chapter, i mean they kinda added a new area for this season, why not a new chapter for a season?
@hushed steeple i think they come from another kingdom, i do wonder too, written about that too, maybe next series?

https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/704373330307973160

mighty siren May 2, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Wait if blue light is dead, and now the seasonal spirits and travelling ones are orange, would that mean they are . . . alive?

humble barn May 2, 2020, 2:26 AM

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their light is blue if you see them in the constellation

mighty siren May 2, 2020, 2:28 AM

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then why is it that when you relieve their memories they are orange

humble barn May 2, 2020, 2:28 AM

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I think the color of seasonal spirit's light in the map is different to make distinction

mighty siren May 2, 2020, 2:28 AM

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lightseekers wasnt like that

humble barn May 2, 2020, 2:28 AM

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I think it depends on the seasonal candle color but I am not sure

mighty siren May 2, 2020, 2:29 AM

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skyShrug

humble barn May 2, 2020, 2:29 AM

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yes the lightseekers' candle was blue

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I meant distinction between normal and seasonal spirits, not the seasons

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and from Belonging they are using the same seasonal color

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https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/583370574449999880/667232373880127519

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Ahh u beat me to it

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Can I ask a lame question?

mighty siren May 2, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Then what about belonging

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ah ok nvm

humble barn May 2, 2020, 2:54 AM

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@sweet dirge hard to answer because if I say yes then I will feel responsible to answer your question before knowing what it is 😂 it's better just ask away

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 2:54 AM

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Ahahah ok then

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where do skykids come from?

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pEyes

humble barn May 2, 2020, 2:56 AM

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my best guess is from the sky!

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 2:56 AM

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pWow amazing

humble barn May 2, 2020, 2:57 AM

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lol but yeah they are apparently not from the kingdom of Sky

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and they are sent to the world to "Bring our lost stars home"

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:00 AM

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O I thought they were sent there to stop the Eden diamond

humble barn May 2, 2020, 3:02 AM

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I think in order to bring all the lost stars home, we need to stop it, but it's just a theory, not confirmed

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https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/634467426515288074

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btw "Bring our lost stars home" is from the intro cutscene

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Oo I see

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So the skykids were created for a purpose

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If stopping the Eden rock is the solution and if the skykids does so what will be of the skykids

humble barn May 2, 2020, 3:05 AM

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probably, but it's also possible that they existed since before and sent for purpose

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:05 AM

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pWow ooo

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Do you think they are closer to the creatures than to the people of the civilization?

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We seem to have a different life cycle

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:06 AM

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I mean from someone I heard they barely do anything to the landscape so I guess they're closer to creatures

humble barn May 2, 2020, 3:08 AM

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I think skykids are special and different from any other creatures/people, because skykids seem to be the only ones repeating the similar life over and over

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Other than the creature they come with us to the light sphere....(evolution)

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:09 AM

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I thought that was heaven

humble barn May 2, 2020, 3:09 AM

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I think the creatures other than skykids reborn as other creatures

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or at least, as other individuals

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:10 AM

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I thought that was heaven
@sweet dirge it is heaven...there is a theory that the light sphere we go into is megabird.

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:11 AM

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The megabird is like the God figure right?

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:11 AM

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So we are a hybrid of elders between creatures. We can call like the creatures and they like to help us. And we have masks like the elders

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Yeah I guess so

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The inbetween

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:14 AM

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We get those from buying it from spirits, it doesn’t mean we are a hybrid of both races

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:15 AM

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like when we call we create an aura of yellow light not like we can sound like them

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Though it is strange that we can mimic many things

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:16 AM

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See that the thing
We mimic, we aren’t the actual thing

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If it wasn’t for the spirits we met, we would’ve never been able to have the masks and the calls

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Even then we are default we can still see similarities

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There is a default call and a default mask

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We aren't mimicking anything there

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Yea and they have no relation to the elders or creatures

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Skykids are their own race

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:19 AM

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I'm saying that they seem similar: when we call we see the same effect (yellow glow) in mantas - when we look at ourselves we seem to be made of clay like the elders

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:19 AM

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Aren't they're different kinds of skykids??

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:19 AM

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I actually have a theory about that

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:20 AM

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In the concept art, there were other beings called the connected and the indifferent which are similar to skykids

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:20 AM

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Oh those are concepts

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:20 AM

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Those like statuses more than different kinds...I assume

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:20 AM

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concepts sqwarlockDed

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But we do become a sort of similar version of them

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:21 AM

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There were 2 types back then
One connected to the light and one that is distant, there was also one in between called hybrid

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Ehhh not rlly

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:21 AM

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We kinda do when we ascend we look like connected when we lose light we look indifferent

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:21 AM

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stickerHuh

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Yea

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:21 AM

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The way I saw all the concepts, indifferent is like

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Corrupted

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Or loss of light

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:22 AM

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How would the player act then?

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Like a zombie maybe

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Connected means full connection to light, no flaws or imperfections

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wait wha

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Doesn't that mean dark creatures like Krills and crabs are just corrupted creatures

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Ok what I meant about different skykids was our race of skykids and the race of skykids at eden

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:23 AM

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They're different??

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:23 AM

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They are bigger, have a different form and different sort of life
Ugh hard to explain

heady sequoia May 2, 2020, 3:23 AM

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The corrupted player would search for the person they last saw, kill them, and kill many more until killing themselves

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:23 AM

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They're the beta version lol

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Lmao

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:24 AM

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But I’m pretty sure those skykids were a race before us, a race prolly sent to do a different mission

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:24 AM

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But we do turn into a statue when we die

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:24 AM

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I think the same version

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Nope

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Wha

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:24 AM

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We just go away

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:24 AM

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O

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I thought we do cause we get all stiff

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:25 AM

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And there are beta models with darkstone coming out of their bodies but I’m taking about the skykids we give our stars to

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They are obviously a different race of skykids than us

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:25 AM

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And when we rescue them they just go away...th

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Could they be a prototype

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Or do they actually turn into candles I forgot

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:26 AM

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You should play eden again

heady sequoia May 2, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Elders will try to find the corrupted child, blindfold her/him/them. The corrupted skykid would stay still, thinking he/she/they are dead.
Cure: unknown

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:26 AM

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:(

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Omg

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Why

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Are u so dark

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:26 AM

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What

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Elders will try to find the corrupted child, blindfold her/him/them. The corrupted skykid would stay still, thinking he/she/they are dead.
Cure: unknown
@heady sequoia lmao parenting advice

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:26 AM

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That's harsh

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:26 AM

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That’s cruel

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:27 AM

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pCry

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:27 AM

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It's dark. Dark humor I approve

sleek sail May 2, 2020, 3:27 AM

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is your child c̷͆̿ö̵͆ṙ̶̐r̵̓͂û̴̫p̷̿̓t̷͛̓è̵͋d̸̂̃? try this to make them behave!

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Oml

heady sequoia May 2, 2020, 3:28 AM

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@serene pasture made these headcanons! Ask her why they be so freaking dark!

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:28 AM

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There was one part in the timeline I couldn't understand, it was the part before the creatures became dark

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What was the cause

heady sequoia May 2, 2020, 3:28 AM

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Darkstone maybe

lilac stone May 2, 2020, 3:29 AM

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The storm?

heady sequoia May 2, 2020, 3:29 AM

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I never see any in the other realms so darkstone

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:29 AM

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:O

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Dark stone be sending bad vibes

lilac stone May 2, 2020, 3:30 AM

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I think krills could have formed from the dead bodies of light creatures

heady sequoia May 2, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Maybe

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HEY WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ELDER OF EDEN

lilac stone May 2, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Dead

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Like others

heady sequoia May 2, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Rip

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:30 AM

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The dark king or smth??

lilac stone May 2, 2020, 3:30 AM

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The king

heady sequoia May 2, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Ye

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Is the king canon??

heady sequoia May 2, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Idk

lilac stone May 2, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Idk

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Cause I see him in some places

heady sequoia May 2, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Rlly

lilac stone May 2, 2020, 3:31 AM

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@sweet dirge where?!

plush moon May 2, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Didn't someone mention a manta being trapped by spores?

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Like the drawings on the door of isle Temple

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And statues of him in battlefield

lilac stone May 2, 2020, 3:31 AM

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@sweet dirge photo please

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:31 AM

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The statue motif could be the same as the king in concepts but since the king is an old concept
That statues currently might jus be a simple architecture design

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Also the timeline u are referring to I BELIEVEEE it is the one with the megabird and the story of the king. That timeline is an old concept that isn’t current canon

lilac stone May 2, 2020, 3:33 AM

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@sly kestrel but in one of the constellation murals in vault I see the king

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Sitting

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:33 AM

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How do u kno it’s the king

lilac stone May 2, 2020, 3:33 AM

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With folded knees

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:33 AM

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Yea Ik what ur referring to
And I believed it too

lilac stone May 2, 2020, 3:34 AM

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He seemed kinda large and intimidating?

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:34 AM

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But it’s not even confirmed that he is in game, it was hinted a lot that he was removed, game mechanic wise

sonic urchin May 2, 2020, 3:34 AM

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He also had a crown I think.

lilac stone May 2, 2020, 3:34 AM

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Tbh he kinda looked like cupid-

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:34 AM

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Even if it was the king
We still don’t kno if it’s the same person we have seen in the concepts

heady sequoia May 2, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Signs of corruption
Red eyes
Blood turning black
The light at the middle turning dark

sweet dirge May 2, 2020, 3:35 AM

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📎 SKY_20200502_133446_.jpg

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Ack I went all the way to isle temple for this

lilac stone May 2, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Thanks

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What if there's an update where we have to battle the king and free him from the darkness?😳

heady sequoia May 2, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Yeet candles at him

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Wow I sound like I’m rlly trying to turn down theories
Look, all I’m trying to say is that it was hinted many times that the king is no longer in game. And that we have absolutely no confirmation of whether the king in the concepts exists in current story. Concepts change overtime so even if there was a king in game, it might not even be the one in the concepts

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And

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There actually is a concept like that

lilac stone May 2, 2020, 3:36 AM

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I know

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I have seen the concept art

sly kestrel May 2, 2020, 3:37 AM

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📎 image0.jpg 📎 image1.jpg

heady sequoia May 2, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Yeet light at him