lore-discussion-spoilers

[hushed steeple]

illuminati

[sly kestrel]

🍥
🤣🤣🤣

[hushed steeple]

oh no

[sly kestrel]

From the sources I’ve seen, it’s illusion
And that would explain why it’s able to reveal the hidden murals on the ark

[humble barn]

@hushed steeple naruto means spiral, which derived from the huge whirlpools in Naruto Strait, so the name of the ninja Naruto Uzumaki could be translated to Mr. Spirally Spiral or something like that

[hollow pier]

@sly kestrel what sources?

[hushed steeple]

I think the theories regarding spiral as darkness / death fits in with the rest of the symbols. since other ones are 4 basic elements, wind, fire, earth, water, and then light (diamond)

Oh official sources? @sly kestrel

[humble barn]

https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/697556839260487731

this person said is psychic

[sly kestrel]

He meant the purple symbol

[warm fern]

he literally said left to right, so is psychic

[sly kestrel]

There was a definition where he looked at where the swirl symbol is, and it said illusion

Yk what

Ping him, see what he says 🙂

[hollow pier]

Psychic, Illusion/Conjuring, Fire, Water, Air, Earth
@lime narwhal
So Red=Psychic and Purple=Illusion/Conjuring?

[humble barn]

i never see them referring to any external sources, at least not in this channel

they said they knew those symbols from studying magic

(so, not from googling)

[hollow pier]

I have reasons to believe that is psychic energy such as it being the darkstone diamond symbol prevalent in vault

[sly kestrel]

A reaper named squid
Don’t mess with usernames like that
They kno their stuff

[hollow pier]

Also that the appears in vault

[pearl void]

The psychic didn't match with the scene where the spirit reveal the murals on the ark when he release the red light

[sly kestrel]

Exactly why it’s believable to be illusion

Why else would it reveal it

Wow, 3 bars of service and 3 bars of WiFi
That must b nice 🥵

[hollow pier]

Jay if it was like my theory, either death energy or time energy both explain why they'd release the murals

[warm fern]

I’ve figured out where it’s from

[humble barn]

omg lol

[pearl void]

I really like that the new season begins with a koru so this is the interpretation I’m going with
@warm fern oh i like this one too for the spiral

[warm fern]

yea seriously tho

[humble barn]

Well, what the symbol signifies

1. Is probably related to what the colored light does
2. Is probably related to how the symbol looks
3. Is probably related to the hint the quest giver gives us
4. Can be completely different from irl symbolism

imo we should keep 4 in mind and consider 1 - 3 thoroughly

[pearl void]

The strongest hint imo is no3

[indigo scarab]

Spiral go brr

[humble barn]

p.s. it can be the same as irl symbolism because of no. 2

[warm fern]

is now Fairy to me

is still bacon

[indigo scarab]

Woosh

[humble barn]

frozen bacon

[warm fern]

i’m making excellent progress

[indigo scarab]

Green eggs and ham?

Blue eggs and bacon.

[hushed steeple]

so this is the egg to that bacon

[indigo scarab]

Yesss

👀

[humble barn]

1.5 hrs to the next light

[warm fern]

yes blue eggs for my

[indigo scarab]

Yum yum

Thats some DEEP lore...

[warm fern]

season of enchanting breakfasts

[indigo scarab]

Yum

[hushed steeple]

we've confirmed the blue egg orb will be in forest

one step ahead

[indigo scarab]

is the fire we will be cooking our food on

Or Cheeto puffs

[hushed steeple]

crab puffs

[indigo scarab]

👀

[inland narwhal]

What’s the building on top of forest temple?

[sly kestrel]

That huge building

It’s actually not the forest temple

The buildings on the sides and on the top look like the forest temple, and a while ago I made a theory that those 3 buildings are separate diamond factories to add onto its process and faster production

Also I think it’s quite clear that this looks nothing like the huge temple in the middle

[inland narwhal]

So it’s pairie temple.

[sly kestrel]

Praire also looks different

This is a stretch but it actually looks like this building....

Idk if that’s the one on the mural or a building related to the one on the mural

I gave up on this theory cuz I had nothing else to speculate on 😂

[inland narwhal]

Hold on.

[sly kestrel]

But I might ask a devy one day, maybe they’ll b nice and gimme an answer

Holding on

[inland narwhal]

@sly kestrel

[pearl void]

That's the temple for each of the elders at each realms

[heady sinew]

44 minutes until next Light Orb quest smh, I need the theory juice now

[pearl void]

It can be seen at the first intro of the game

44 minutes until next Light Orb quest smh, I need the theory juice now
@heady sinew which orb you think will be next?

[heady sinew]

Orange maybe?

Would be cool if it followed the rainbow's pattern

[inland narwhal]

It does looks like wasteland’s building. And I thought the gate below was forest. But the gate doesn’t have pointy top.

[heady sinew]

It might also be the purple orb. Considering the red orb was the first quest and it's also the first orb in the picture

[inland narwhal]

Some beta players have already posted video.

Want me to spoil?

[humble barn]

reminder: no beta spoiler here

[pearl void]

This is a stretch but it actually looks like this building....
This is the wasteland building far at the back, you'll see the resemblance

Want me to spoil?
@inland narwhal don't spoil it hehe

[hushed steeple]

What’s the building on top of forest temple?
@inland narwhal quoting from a screenshot from someone https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/602914067044368405/704222455924785204

seems like the temple with two small temples are the building shown in the picture

the top-most building is the orbit i think?

[hushed steeple]

So the blue orb is related to the water enchantment that purifies the lake in ark

[mossy bay]

Mmm yes but it doesn’t purity all water in the area

Lighting changes before and after completing the second quest

[hushed steeple]

Yes, glad i'm not the only one who noticed the lighting

so i suppose the green orb will add grass to the land

[mossy bay]

Mmm possibly! Do you think we are restoring it to how the spirits once experienced this land?

Or what they hoped to accomplish?

[hushed steeple]

Considering that the land is a barren waste

and there was a spirit who had farms (the scare / boo spirit)

probably we are restoring it back to what it used to be

otherwise, the people would have died way too soon to have the memories

they couldn't also use the toxic water if it's not cleansed

[pulsar dragon]

i recorded this for those who want to remember/analyze it lol

[desert sun]

aight who wanna talk about the catapult in the water or has that already been discussed

[hushed steeple]

Still wondering what the catapults are used for, it doesn't make any sense if it's used for wars

[languid vine]

Where is the blue orb?

[hushed steeple]

Hey so is Valley the only place with pure water?
@hushed steeple there are also pure waters in isle, prairie, and forest

but considering the blue orb is in valley, i wonder if some of the people actually came from valley and brought the blue orb with them

speaking of which, the ark with the catapult may have some origins from valley, as valley civ is likely to develop several weapons of war / high-end technology of the civs

ah i see

[mossy bay]

Yeah i noticed that too, more green

[hushed steeple]

like something's toxic covered in the plants

whereas in forest they're more blueish

[mossy bay]

What could have contaminated it?

[sturdy gate]

There’s a strange boat near the ark

It’s different

[mossy bay]

I was thinking that maybe when the golden wasteland was once in the sky it was the most advanced civilisation and with that came more waste? What if they just dumped their waste down to the earth below and that’s what caused all the water to be like that? Plus there are a lot of pipes in wasteland, i wonder if it was waste moving through them and contaminating the waters

[hushed steeple]

seems more like over-industrialization gone wrong to me

[sturdy gate]

Or the king made some holes in the pipes

[hushed steeple]

also @sturdy gate i found diamonds on the back of the ark, they seemed out of place/weren't there before (or maybe i didn't notice them before)

[mossy bay]

Show us please?!

[sturdy gate]

YES

[sly kestrel]

Boop, psychic and illusion are 2 different lights

[hushed steeple]

here's a closer picture of the diamonds, they look like blue diamonds near eden gate or the multi person doors we open.

[sly kestrel]

Illusion

But, this is jus me and some others theories

Psychic is purple

[hushed steeple]

I have a theory about GW and Valley connection:
In the Q&A talk (in the pinned messages), Reika said that behind the beauty of Valley, they hide the ugly slum parts below the clouds. I'm guessing that would be the wasteland?

It would be weird to build an important tower like Vault there though...
@hushed steeple could be, since wasteland is beneath valley (the spiral vortex).

[sly kestrel]

Also also also
From alllll of my observations in game and in pinned messages, the golden wasteland is somewhere underneath the huge mountain and the vault is in the directly in the middle. At the top of vault is where the path to eden is, the summit of the mountain

[hushed steeple]

so vault is like the elevator inside the mountain to the summit?

[peak ore]

@hushed steeple idk if richs and poors has to do with sky lore

[hushed steeple]

just realized the ark season has a lot that can be drawn as connections between valley and wasteland

[sly kestrel]

I suppose u could say that
It’s like the elevator to the mountain, BUT an elevator isn’t the purpose of vault ofc

[hushed steeple]

yeah, would be weird to store all knowledge in something that's supposed to be an elevator hahahah

Reika did mention citadel in valley as living place for riches, covering the slums

[sly kestrel]

Hmmmm

I know where u got that

But

It wasn’t a q and a

It was jus something reika wanted to say relating to the inspirations in the making of the citadel

[peak ore]

too much Parasite

[sly kestrel]

I was there, ofc I wrote it down but tbh it’s kinda hard to understand

Also, she was being MADLY interrupted by people so it was kinda hard to ask questions and stuff

Also making holes in some of her explanations

[peak ore]

I mean gw is more like a war contaminated zone, poor after that but not during his creation

[hushed steeple]

here's a closer picture of the diamonds, they look like blue diamonds near eden gate or the multi person doors we open.
@hushed steeple a bit oot, i suppose the diamonds here were used to power the flying ark or something, assuming the theories that blue diamonds are used to store light or energy

[humble barn]

from tomcepts:

[sly kestrel]

Well if u oob, u can see paddles underneath the ark

Ahhh there’s the pics

[hushed steeple]

yeah. paddles help keep the boats float and glide maybe?

[sly kestrel]

It’s in the mural as well

[hushed steeple]

with blue diamonds powering them

or has there any theories regarding ark flying w/o diamonds

[sly kestrel]

U haven’t been here very long and u already know about power diamonds

Thas pretty cool

[hushed steeple]

that's the theory that got stuck with me while skimming the pinned docs so yeah

[sly kestrel]

Well, In the sky world, boats are confirmed to be able to fly and I actually never thought this before but u could be right. The diamonds could be the power source that could make it fly

Paddles are on the bottom of course but I remember, in old beta there were flying boats u could ride at praire and u had to light a diamond to activate it
Also, in the season trailer it showed the boats diamonds glowing before it took off to flight

[peak ore]

so how would work being poor in sky?

[sly kestrel]

Huh

I’m a bit tired sorry but I think ur asking how people would be poor in sky
Well the people in the kingdom had a civilization and of course in every civilization, there’s rich, there’s poor, and as seen in tomcepts, the working class counts as poor. They get put inside the slums while the rich get more wealthy architectural buildings

We don’t have any details on how the people lived in the kingdom and what they did and how some were poor and some weren’t. But, based on concepts, common sense, and Reika
There was indeed separate classes of power in the sky kingdom

[fiery condor]

Makes me think what currency they use. Candles and hearts maybe

[hollow pier]

from tomcepts:
@humble barn that EXACTLY or almost matches the flying race

[ember temple]

:O

[humble barn]

@hollow pier yeah we see some floating buildings there

[wind root]

What was the importance of blue orb? was it just needed to bring life in the polluted pond

[humble barn]

it purified the water

[hushed steeple]

it puts a broken catapult on the water

[wind root]

and bring life

u can see fish there lol

@hushed steeple catapult?

[humble barn]

they are goldfish crackers

[mossy bay]

The catapult was already there just hard to see under the murky green water

[hushed steeple]

ah okay

i thought a catapult suddenly appeared on the pond

[wind root]

@humble barn cracker? what?

[humble barn]

google goldfish crackers, the koi in Sky look exactly like them

[wind root]

ok

[sly kestrel]

Don’t judge us, we like making jokes 🙂

[mellow sable]

so we know all the orbs do different things now

that's confirmed

[sly kestrel]

ye

[humble barn]

No I am serious Jay, I see them like a kind of Easter eggs, so I think it does not necessarily mean the blue light had a power to bring life itself.
They did show the water is now habitable though.

[sly kestrel]

No I meant u talking about gold fish crackers

[humble barn]

yes and im not totally joking

only a bit

[sly kestrel]

But yes the blue light is able to do that and judging by their journey to prosperity, the blue light scholar was most likely going to use it to cure some more water

I’m confused why it didn’t work when he tried it in the caves tho
Maybe not enough power ig

[hushed steeple]

@hushed steeple catapult?
@wind root also yeah, there's a broken catapult thrower inside the pond once you give back the blue orb

[sly kestrel]

It was always there, the clear water jus made it easier to see

[hushed steeple]

yes

[wind root]

@hushed steeple I think it will be used in the upcoming quest

[sly kestrel]

Fire and psychic wasn’t demonstrated in beta yet so u could be right, that catapult might be used later on

[wind root]

the catapult will sprinkle water everywhere and everything will be changed 😀 , plants will grow and life will evolve , lol , what i am thinking

[sly kestrel]

Ur thinking

Like a lore thinker

[mellow sable]

oh! I noticed something

the blue light went into the sky and the water

and it purified both

the sky doesn't have the weird green tint anymore

[stoic abyss]

I am unsure of where I should put this photo but what do you guys think is this thing? To me it looks like that thing that launches you

[sly kestrel]

It’s a catapult 😁

[stoic abyss]

Ah I forgot the name for it lol

[sly kestrel]

It was always there but the clear water was able to reveal it more

We don’t know why it’s there
But.....it’s there

[stoic abyss]

Maybe the orange light will fix it or something

[sly kestrel]

Maybe

[stoic abyss]

Because there isn’t any way to get out of the area other than going home right? Idk tho

[sly kestrel]

U can either take the boat back to wasteland, use the bird shrine next to the ark or jus simply teleport home using the home button

[flat charm]

How many krills did the spirits in the ark fought?

[pearl void]

They may not have fight tho

[sly kestrel]

Where’d u get the idea they fought Krills?

[pearl void]

But if you ask there's one krill at ark @flat charm

[sly kestrel]

Doesn’t mean they fought them

I mean we can’t say for sure but it’s highly unlikely that they did

[mossy bay]

Is the vault of knowledge in the wasteland?

[sly kestrel]

Nah it’s after wasteland

In the middle of the mountain

Wasteland is under the edge of the mountain

[mossy bay]

So could the krill and the clouds on the ark just be showing us that the ark was entering the wasteland and shortly after entering it got zapped?

[sly kestrel]

I think the krill on the mural was there jus to show us that they got into this environment with a hostile krill at their area

It also had sunken boats in the mural so I think the back of the ark mural shows like the environment they were stuck in

[pearl void]

So could the krill and the clouds on the ark just be showing us that the ark was entering the wasteland and shortly after entering it got zapped?
@mossy bay ohh that might be true, considering the ark crashed at the first map

[mossy bay]

I think you’re right, sorry if it sounded obvious but i thought the krill and the clouds might have had a deeper meaning but now i don’t

[sly kestrel]

Hm, deeper meaning? Wdym

What were u gonna say

[pearl void]

I think you’re right, sorry if it sounded obvious but i thought the krill and the clouds might have had a deeper meaning but now i don’t
@mossy bay azura was saying, she thought that the krill mural may have something significant meaning since it is there on the ship

[lime gust]

I think the spirits was fought with those krill, the spirits with black cape running away from it, the other theory their realm is in the states of war (with krill or something else) since there are cutscene of the elder which seems exhausted, or maybe the elder feel desperate because they're losing

[mossy bay]

I intentionally left that part of the mural out of my theory because I couldn’t understand it. I think i was looking too deeply into it when really it just meant that they were in the overcast wasteland with a krill

@pearl void he thought* 😆 but yeah exactly

[pearl void]

I think the spirits was fought with those krill, the spirits with black cape running away from it, the other theory their realm is in the states of war (with krill or something else) since there are cutscene of the elder which seems exhausted, or maybe the elder feel desperate because they're losing
@lime gust sorry to debunk your theory, but there's mural on the ship, that shows the ark crashed because of the storm, lightning

@pearl void he thought* 😆
@mossy bay ohhh you a he haha my bad!

[sly kestrel]

I think Yama is talking about the battlefield

Not the ark

[lime gust]

Oh yes sorry, i was talking about wasteland battlefield 😅

[pearl void]

I think Yama is talking about the battlefield
@sly kestrel as in the battlefield, lore seeker agrees that the skull that we see in graveyard is not from the krills, it's something else

[sly kestrel]

We aren’t sure if they fought the krill, and a lot of theories are going around

But, one thing I do kno is that the spirits we see in wasteland are most likely people who didn’t participate in the battle at all

The weapons there are enormous, elder sized
An average spirit is shorter than the length of one sword

[rose yacht]

Different subject but in timeline talk would journey be before or after sky? I think it would be after because (endgame spoiler) ||everything turns to sand when you die in eden||

[sly kestrel]

Oh the graveyard and battle field are 2 different places and yes I agree, it’s pretty obvious the bones there aren’t krill 😂

[pearl void]

This is the cut scene from vault elder, it shows the wasteland elder is fighting with something with several followers

[sly kestrel]

I don’t think journey is related to sky story wise
Yes they were made by tgc and they have their similarities but they are also 2 totally different games with different storylines and lore.

Also journey was made by companies other than tgc

[mossy bay]

Do we know if the elders all died at the same time? Or one after the other?

[sly kestrel]

We don’t KNOW but we can theorize

And um

In my opinion

I don’t think the elders died at all

They aren’t spirits like the others
They are a different race

[rose yacht]

Hmm, I suppose. I was putting it together as if it where a Zelda timeline

[sly kestrel]

Hmm, haven’t seen dragon in a while

Hey Shira

[edgy sleet]

My personal pet Journey and Sky theory is that the mountains in both games are the same ones. But the Sky mountain is so far into the future that all the stone has worn away, leaving only the pure life energy of it. But that's mostly just something I like to think, it's not supported at all haha

[rose yacht]

Yeah it’s fun to think about :3

[lime gust]

@sly kestrel i do think they dissapear tho, while its possible like you said that they are different race, then it bring another question, why do we have to experiencing the memories of the past if those elder still exist on their realm, and then lead to what is exactly our purpose 🤔

[sly kestrel]

Our purpose is said in the intro

And I’m kinda sleep deprived rn, lemme read that paragraph again

[mossy bay]

@sly kestrel haha ok, they don’t ascend with us to Eden but we still give them light to finish their ascension, i think they were stuck in the sky kingdom just like the spirits but maybe under different circumstances

Damn get some rest man!

[sly kestrel]

This is me rn

[hushed steeple]

get some rest @sly kestrel

[edgy sleet]

I do think there's some decent evidence for the elders being a sort of powerful spirit. The details on how they got that way are blurry, but I do think we can be fairly confident that they're not normal living beings. If they were just normal people hanging out, we wouldn't need to meditate and meet them in a special meditation realm. If they were just normal and alive then there'd be no reason we couldn't just walk up to them like "hey yo rainy aunt how've you been"

[sly kestrel]

Okokokok elders aren’t displaying memories of the past if that’s what going on about and omg

[peak ore]

I think that most of the ideas that couldn't make it to Journey are in Sky, the director of Journey extend from 1 to 3 years the development of that game to finally "give up" or "let it go" a lot of them, also if another studio as Santa Monica make some decision about the overall history or purpose of Journey I found it unlikely

[sly kestrel]

So many paragraphs

[mellow sable]

guys

we do know what the elders are

they're the stars that fell in the intro

[sly kestrel]

Yea

[mellow sable]

orbit

[sly kestrel]

Cam

[sturdy gate]

Lol

[mellow sable]

we didn't come from anywhere

we were created

[rose yacht]

Come * ^.^

[sturdy gate]

Yes

[sly kestrel]

We were sent by someone ofc

Question is

WHO

[mellow sable]

the narrator

mega bird?

[hushed steeple]

by the devs

devs invited and sent us into the game

[sly kestrel]

Is it the megabird from the concepts
Or the child of light hinted to us by the devs

Or
Some other person we never expected

[mellow sable]

the child of light is the thing we see when we're dead

[sly kestrel]

So confident

[mellow sable]

at least that's what I think it is

[edgy sleet]

I figured we were all children of light. I think the devs have even referenced player characters by that name directly before.

[peak ore]

maybe there's someone hiding in the beach of isle, maybe he make us from clay of that beach

[sly kestrel]

Oh shira, reika hinted us a while back about this child of light

I made a huge theory that isn’t done yet

But it’s a person that skykids have a close relationship with and the winged light is imprints from this child of light

[mellow sable]

we do know the winged light is imprints of the child of light

but what does imprint even mean

[edgy sleet]

The star kids are also children of light probably, but maybe we all are? Like in general maybe all the kids are children of light, them and us.

[mellow sable]

that's what I think too

how else would there be winged light in the ark

[sly kestrel]

Child of light
“Child”
We happen to look exactly like each other including the passed skykids at eden, we also look exactly like the child of light in the intro

[mellow sable]

and we become glowy bois too

[peak ore]

I think that we are more like the pc of Hollow Knight, but not in a dark way

[mellow sable]

a vessel made of light?

[peak ore]

a vessel for light

[mossy bay]

Mumma megabird

[sweet vine]

Hey, if Jouney and Sky are from the same universe, where are they put on in the timeline?

I kinda feel like Journey is in the future, but that's based on two points so I can't say much

Since the mountain has calmed down and everything is covered in sand.

[sweet vine]

Yeah

Freaky

[night heart]

Does anybody know why is there a krill?

[sweet vine]

It might have something to do with the broken boats and ark.

[night heart]

I think it's the same krill on the ark

Maybe they ran from the krill

[sweet vine]

I'm thinking that krill attacked the ark a long time ago.

And now it's just kinda vibing nearby

You guys know the circle-shaped island next to the collapsed ark?

Maybe the precious thing has been buried in the sand under the island?

[night heart]

Idk, if the krill is the cause of the broken ark, if it were the spirits won't be here

Maybe it killed their leader

[sweet vine]

How come?

[night heart]

Well, they already did a camp there

[sweet vine]

True.

Maybe there's a chance they survived the attack.

Or at least some of them did.

[night heart]

The krill killed their leader, that's why we can't find his statue

[sweet vine]

Could be!

Wasn't there a discussion about how the krills were previously used as a weapon.

[night heart]

Idk

[sweet vine]

Maybe the leader was put as their target.

[night heart]

Gotta find the blue light, I'll be back

[sweet vine]

Ok!

[night heart]

Back, I think I figured it out

[wind root]

what?

[night heart]

After the crystal broke these enchanters started a journey to take out the corruption from every realm, there are 6 spirits (not including the leader) for the 6 realms/gates (not including Eden), they went and purified each realm until they reached Wasteland, there they met the krill in the first zone and decided to run on the ocean, the krill followed them and lost them at the mountains

[wind root]

🤯

[night heart]

That's why we don't see any krill there, despite the fact that the spirits in the first zone were hiding

Maybe this shows that the crystal contains the power of elements

[wind root]

someone got krilled in the clouds

[night heart]

Yeah, the krill probably got their leader, that's why we can't find his statue

[pearl void]

The ark was struck by lightning not krill, it's shown at one of the murals

[night heart]

Idk, if the krill is the cause of the broken ark, if it were the spirits won't be here
@night heart

[tight willow]

Anyone else in shock that the blue light just purified water at the ark?

Like I knew theoretically it was supposed to do that but then the game actually had it purify water

So quick theory I’m throwing out: what if the end goal of the light quests is to try and purify that area?

[pearl void]

My prediction is the ark will be fixed and the spirits fly awayyy

[tropic cradle]

what exactly are the krills? do they have any "relation" with the last of its kind whale that appears a couple of times in the game? were they a different creature corrupted by darkness?

[spice kernel]

for all our lore aficionados out there!

1. the Ark is hollow

2. the wings are also powered by power diamonds

[lilac stone]

What did the add to the environment of the ark?

[spice kernel]

the murals

[lilac stone]

It could define foresight?

[spice kernel]

I guess :0

the old blue murals have been washed away by rain since it was drawn with paint

[lilac stone]

Like the blue orb added pure water

[spice kernel]

so maybe it had the ability to foresee into the past/ reveal hidden things?

[lilac stone]

I guess?

The orb viewed into the future and didn't think it was a good idea to tell the explorers about the danger

It could be foresight lol

[spice kernel]

WHEEEEEEE

[pearl void]

The spiral reveals the past through the murals

[fiery condor]

@tight willow’s idea is very similar to what I thought. I always think the elements the enchantment spirits used are in the ark to purify wasteland. Blue light to purify the polluted waters, green light to bring vegetation in plain old sand, cyan probably to clean possibly polluted air in wasteland? Orange to give light and warmth, purple possibly to heal the krills, since it’s symbol looks like an eye to me, and with the symbolism of purple too. Red light I’m not really sure, but I guess to tell about the past, don’t know if it’ll do something to restore wasteland

[hushed steeple]

Red maybe...restores what’s lost? Since it made the paintings new

Also low key annoyed that the green/earth symbol is actually the AIR SYMBOL in alchemy

[mossy bay]

The green symbol looks like a mountain though we have to find the correlation between the glyphs and the sky kingdom instead of the glyphs in our reality.

[hushed steeple]

Guess you’re right

[mossy bay]

even though this looks like fire I really hope it’s ‘light’ and with it completely clears the clouds and opens up the sky above the area

[hushed steeple]

-Witch boi will make the crops grow
-Crab boi...maybe make the crabs friendly?
-Angry girl will probably make mushrooms
-No idea what sleepy woman would do
-neither the quest spirit

[weak spire]

GUYS

I have a question

[nova tiger]

okay so

[weak spire]

Why are the sky kids immune to every single body of water (except the wastelands of course) throughout the game but not on the forest?

[nova tiger]

smol introduction on the lore i know

[weak spire]

ESPECIALLY THAT SAME BODY OF WATER THAT THE RAIN ON THE HIDDEN FOREST FALLS ON YOU

[hushed steeple]

Big brain club

[nova tiger]

okay so

do you want to hear

the lore i learnt from jay and lyst

if yes i will

if no

:')

[hushed steeple]

This place is officially called the Big Brain Club now

[reef plover]

@nova tiger I wanna hear the lore

[nova tiger]

okay

so

i forgot what isle was but

prairie is believed to be a place for boat and pot production, had slavery and delivery of butterflies

(more transport and they stuffed butterflies into pots)

[hushed steeple]

...hm

What do you mean slavery

[nova tiger]

they forced people to mass make boats n stuff

[drifting copper]

mass produce

[nova tiger]

oh yes

[hushed steeple]

I’d like to point something out

[nova tiger]

yay the pro is here

:D

[hushed steeple]

That actually might be pretty obvious

[nova tiger]

yeah?

[drifting copper]

behdwhehe shush i only stopped by

[nova tiger]

no lyst, stay

[hushed steeple]

See, I noticed that everytime we see like, floating islands or structures

[drifting copper]

it is 10:19 pm

i want sleep

[nova tiger]

ok fiNe

[hushed steeple]

It’s close to a large quantity of clouds

[nova tiger]

well.. yeah

theyre in the air

[hushed steeple]

...

[drifting copper]

originally they weren’t near clouds but after a couple millions of years went by, the kingdom was swept under

[nova tiger]

forest had the boats coming from prairie with the pots to make power diamonds by grinding the poor creatures of light (thats why you see so many doors and the bridge in sunny forest and the broken bridge because they were all made of the crystal thingies)

[drifting copper]

i’m still excited to see what wasteland looked like before the destruction and war

[nova tiger]

yes

maybe ark will introduce it

[weak spire]

what do the butterflies like, that might be in the pots they carry around though?

[rain olive]

6 more days

[weak spire]

Do butterflies like honey?

[nova tiger]

what do the butterflies like that might be in the pots they carry around though?
explain like im 5 pls i dont understand

[hushed steeple]

Say...why did the spirit fail in the first time to purify the water?

[drifting copper]

the butterflies in sky aren’t the same as actual butterflies

they’re manifestations of light

[nova tiger]

please use grammar or punctuation cause i dont understand

[last coyote]

im here cos im curious wth is lore

[hushed steeple]

Yah I mean I never seen butterflies glow yellow

[mossy bay]

Butterflies like nectar and pollen

[nova tiger]

this isnt real life

[mossy bay]

But I’m game butterflies could be totally different

[nova tiger]

we dont have oversized krills

[weak spire]

yeah but it doesn't mean real life stuff wouldn't apply to this area

[mossy bay]

Can you calm down?

[nova tiger]

so anything is possible

wha-

[last coyote]

couls someone explain lore lol

[nova tiger]

beefwhale

i explain

[weak spire]

Like that body of water in the forest

[drifting copper]

well you won’t be seeing flying manta rays

[nova tiger]

:D

i was being chill bro

[drifting copper]

ok nico you explain the stuff jay and i taught you i’m gonna sleep

[nova tiger]

why do i keep being misunderstood as angry

[weak spire]

it's fine, i didn't think you were mad though

[nova tiger]

okay lyst

so

i just said

im gonna copy and paste cause too layz to say again

[last coyote]

have u explained or will u explain

[hushed steeple]

🔥HOT TAKE🔥

Imma drop it

[weak spire]

are there different kinds of lore theories that people came up with?

[nova tiger]

i forgot what isle is but
prairie is believed to be a place for boat and pot production, had slavery and delivery of butterflies
(more transport and they stuffed butterflies into pots)
forest had the boats coming from prairie with the pots to make power diamonds by grinding the poor creatures of light (thats why you see so many doors and the bridge in sunny forest and the broken bridge because they were all made of the crystal thingies)

[hushed steeple]

This update has pretty much confirmed canon that skykids are able to sleep

[weak spire]

It does?

[hushed steeple]

Yah

Bc

[weak spire]

WAIT I HAVE YET TO FINISH TODAY'S QUEST

[mossy bay]

Sky children and spirits are not the same

[nova tiger]

valley was a place for scholars to understand the world iirc (<-- if i recall correctly)

thats what the citadel was for

it had those big globes

[mossy bay]

We are just copying spirits expressions

[hushed steeple]

And I mean skykids

[weak spire]

I've always viewed the sky kids as a metaphor for angels

[hushed steeple]

No

Because see

[nova tiger]

search it up

theres two

theyre twins

[hushed steeple]

I was vibin with a chibi friend

[last coyote]

-and i thought this was just a game with some meaning but not that much

[nova tiger]

guys oml i enjoy the enthusiasm but im being buried :')

[hushed steeple]

And the madlad actually had EYELIDS for some reason when doing the emoji

[mossy bay]

-and i thought this was just a game with some meaning but not that much
@last coyote hidden meaning

[hushed steeple]

(I wasn’t high I swear)

[nova tiger]

no references to drugs, boi

[last coyote]

did devs say about it or isit just players and theories

[weak spire]

It's like hyper light drifter where the game is open to player's own interpretation

[hushed steeple]

I’m starting to think I’m suffering like a Mandela effect at this point

[nova tiger]

some canon stuff are in pinned

wasteland used to be something before it became, well, a wasteland

nah nah

battle

wait aaa

im tryna explain

[weak spire]

yeah, i've always thought that it was a kingdom

[nova tiger]

wAit fjekdsnd

so as you can see in the first krill area

theres a big broken thing

let me find the image

[weak spire]

it was one of the kingdoms that was showcased in the temple on the isle right?

[hushed steeple]

wasteland used to be something before it became, well, a wasteland
@nova tiger
I think it was more of an industry area, like the way the forest temple and the ruined temple are really similar. Maybe another outpost of diamond production.

[nova tiger]

it was

it was another diamond production area

[weak spire]

diamond?

[nova tiger]

the crystals

[hushed steeple]

Maybe it looked quite similar to Valley

[nova tiger]

as i explained for forest

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632004389137154048/686879361822883850/image0.jpg

[weak spire]

those same crystals that the elders carry throughout the cutscene?

[hushed steeple]

the crystals
@nova tiger
Please call them Diamonds it’s confusing

[nova tiger]

okay

it was another diamond production place

as you can see

the same thing in forest temple

this is an exact replica

its the broken down temple

the next area, graveyard.

[hushed steeple]

The more I think about it the more confusing it gets

[nova tiger]

the ''caves'' you caan shelter under was based on turtle skulls if i recall correctly

[weak spire]

we need someone on this discord channel do some kind of game theory stuff or something

[hushed steeple]

It’s likely that the pollution maybe made the propagation of darkness easy, seeing that the Krill and the crabs emerge from the sludge

[nova tiger]

so it was theorized as being a breeding camp for more grinding

[hushed steeple]

From all the mass production

[nova tiger]

and then we have shipwreck

[weak spire]

what are the spirits btw?

or what were they?

[hushed steeple]

what are the spirits btw?
@weak spire
Dead humans

[nova tiger]

theyre not skykids, its confirmed

[weak spire]

but some of them got capes the same one as the sky kids do?

[hushed steeple]

Why y’all laughing it’s literally the truth

[nova tiger]

thats something we dont understand yet

[weak spire]

it's okay, i got you.

[nova tiger]

oh yeah big thing i forgot about prairie

[hushed steeple]

Because even without light they can still glide

[nova tiger]

so you guys know yawn spirit

he's in a workshop

[weak spire]

yeah that guy

[nova tiger]

it looks like he's making a boat

and there are pots stuffed everywhere

that was a main theory on the slavery

as he was tired form making everything

[weak spire]

he was or he is?

[nova tiger]

was*

[mossy bay]

Maybe just a hard worker?

[nova tiger]

from*t

this was a main clue on the slavery part

and it was theorized that after he yawned, he died in his sleep from over working

[hushed steeple]

Dude

Y’all get tired of work and school and work all night right

[mossy bay]

Lol what?

[hushed steeple]

But y’all slaves? No

[mossy bay]

Exactly!

[last coyote]

ill go observe the spirits next time lol

[hushed steeple]

Doesn’t prove that he’s a slave

[nova tiger]

this is the theory, bruh

and we have the crying spirit in forest.

[night patio]

Maybe he was poor

[nova tiger]

theyre in a cave and theyre mining

at some point they get stuck

[last coyote]

then whats winged light

[weak spire]

what if the stars that the intro was talking about were actually the elder spirits?

[nova tiger]

broh.... i told you i learnt this from someone so im not sure

[last coyote]

from where?

[nova tiger]

dont think of me as the pro here

i am merely a lore fan

lyst and jay are the og's

[weak spire]

like they were fighting some kind of big krill or something

[nova tiger]

[pearl void]

what if the stars that the intro was talking about were actually the elder spirits?
@weak spire yes this is correct, it's canon, the dev said so

[last coyote]

do yal look at the stuff that brightens up on the wall

i dont

[nova tiger]

okay i found it

''But as the memory depicts it
There were ppl in a cave, the cry spirit was one of them and it’s not confirmed what they were doing in that cave, but there was an accident and rocks collapsed on some of them, killing them. There was a desperate attempt to get them out but it was useless, they died there, and the cry spirit eventually made gravestones for them. As time passed, more of her friends died, reasons that are unknown and only theorized but at the end of her memory, she sits down remembering her passed friends, and cries''

-jay

[last coyote]

yes the murals

[weak spire]

weren't they the guardians of each realms?

[last coyote]

wow.

WNJDHIWDIUDI

[weak spire]

they must've had some underlings before, don't they?

[nova tiger]

underlings?

[last coyote]

so winged light is just dead children from where

[weak spire]

an army i guess?

[nova tiger]

the only places with power diamond production sites and material harvesting was forest and wasteland

[pearl void]

weren't they the guardians of each realms?
@weak spire no.. They actually fall from the sky, and form a realms each, the beginning scene shows that

[nova tiger]

the beginning of wasteland was a diamond production site and after graveyard it’s a battleground

[last coyote]

i only heard of the theory that its just the cycle of life

childhood to adulthood

to aging

and death

[weak spire]

did they fall face-flat, the same way you fell on the wasteland?

[nova tiger]

we know the first krill area is a diamond factory but then there’s graveyard. a lot of people just pass it off as a feeding ground for krills but slowly it didn’t make sense so now i’m thinking it was an army camp or a whale breeding and killing ground

[hushed steeple]

There’s a theory that there was actually a civil war

[weak spire]

i'm just kidding

[hushed steeple]

But it’s highly unlikely

[nova tiger]

-lyst

since wasteland elder is wearing a mask that looks like a whale’s head

[pearl void]

did they fall face-flat, the same way you fell on the wasteland?
@weak spire i think they did haha

[weak spire]

yeah there is

[hushed steeple]

The Krill problem got so out of hand they left

[nova tiger]

theyre based on turtle skulls

[weak spire]

i've always thought they were fighting the krills invading that kingdom?

[hushed steeple]

How bout the bones in graveyard?
@hushed steeple
Whale bones

[nova tiger]

'based on'

[last coyote]

i wonder how much the artists actually thought about before making the game

[hushed steeple]

i've always thought they were fighting the krills invading that kingdom?
@weak spire
Yah that’s what happens

[last coyote]

my brain cant handle so much

gdbye

[hushed steeple]

Also y’all seen the scrapped enemy from season of rhythm?

The big lanky monster thing

pic?

[weak spire]

yeah, i love games like these where the game devs leave the story for the players to interpret

can you show us?

[hushed steeple]

Wait lemme get the pic

[pearl void]

You were right about that, this is the vault elder cut scene, you can see the wasteland elder is fighting something with some followers

[hushed steeple]

I follow this skytuber

[nova tiger]

thats why it was called battefield, br u h

[hushed steeple]

They tamper with the code and all of that

[nova tiger]

there mustve been a battle

[weak spire]

aw man

[hushed steeple]

No

Wait lemme get it

[weak spire]

i was expecting a flying puffer fish

[hushed steeple]

l o n g f i s h

[reef plover]

Awww. The corrupt creature is adorablle

[hushed steeple]

^^^^^^

[pearl void]

People here agreed that they are not fighting krills, because the skull in wasteland graveyard is not krill

[nova tiger]

from the tomcepts

thats a hacker

we dont mention hackers

[weak spire]

wow a t-posting king

[nova tiger]

please remove the image

[hushed steeple]

Why

[nova tiger]

we are not allowed to discuss about hackers

periodt

[hushed steeple]

Can we discuss what the hacker found instead

[rain olive]

No

[nova tiger]

no

[rain olive]

No mention of that guy

[nova tiger]

or girl

who knows

[hushed steeple]

Also idk how to delete images in discord

[nova tiger]

long press the image

delete should pop up

[weak spire]

asserting dominance, i like it

[nova tiger]

shaddup about light mode

i know its blinding

deal with it

im used to it, so can you

[weak spire]

the closest to the dark stone are the red ones found in eden i guess

[weak spire]

plus, they share the same characteristics and effect.

[reef plover]

shaddup about light mode
@nova tiger how'd you know I was about to mention that lol. Please continue with your story.

[hushed steeple]

Doesn't show it to me for some reason

Also

[nova tiger]

cause. everyone talks about it and im tired of it as much as my name

[hushed steeple]

Why is the One who shall not be named so infamous around here

[rain olive]

Because he's a hacker

[pearl void]

The dark stone is also the power stone, this is cannon, dev said it so, the description in the art is correct

[rain olive]

And hackers are not welcome

[nova tiger]

please remove the photo before i call the

[hushed steeple]

CHILL MAN IM DUMB

[nova tiger]

im just sayin

you didnt do it

im just reminding

[hushed steeple]

I CANT FIND THE DAMN BUTTON

[rain olive]

It is

[weak spire]

what's with the amoled screen?

[nova tiger]

[reef plover]

Just press and hold over your image and then a delete option should pop up > I CANT FIND THE DAMN BUTTON
@hushed steeple

[hushed steeple]

Cool

[nova tiger]

why do i always have to sound mean

hhh

whatevver

im leaving

[hushed steeple]

Alright I did it

For some reason my phone doesn’t show it

[weak spire]

Are these pinned messages canon so far?

I wanna try and make my own interpretations from the game so far.

I'm now curious about the lore

[pearl void]

Are these pinned messages canon so far?
@weak spire some cannon it mentioned there cannon, some are not

[hushed steeple]

Are these pinned messages canon so far?
@weak spire
Yes but actually no

These are all fan interpretations

Of the game

[pearl void]

There's only one cannon part pinned there, you just gotta look one by one

[hushed steeple]

But I mean ppl here are pretty smart so yah

[weak spire]

But i still haven't got any answer to my question about why the sky kids are immune to every body of water throughout the realms (wasteland doesn't count though) except for the rain in hidden forest.

[pearl void]

Pffft my auto correct

[hushed steeple]

But i still haven't got any answer to my question about why the sky kids are immune to every body of water throughout the realms (wasteland doesn't count though) except for the rain in hidden forest.
@weak spire

Because game design

[nova tiger]

theres pinned canon lore

ill get it

[hushed steeple]

Also, wasteland isn’t water, it’s sludge

[weak spire]

that's a bad answer tbh

[hushed steeple]

It even makes a different sound

Than water

[pearl void]

Set aside design, it may be acid rain, i think i said that hahha

[weak spire]

yes, that's why i didn't count it.

[hushed steeple]

But how can the mantas survive

[nova tiger]

https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/654204348519153665

here you go

[hushed steeple]

I prefer the hidden hidden forest

[nova tiger]

thats the canon lore

[weak spire]

if it was acid rain, you should get hurt to those body of water where the rain fell in won't you?

Set aside design, it may be acid rain, i think i said that hahha
@pearl void

[hushed steeple]

If it’s acid, shouldn’t mantas get hurt too?

[weak spire]

how come nobody even mentioned this before

[hushed steeple]

Yah, when the rain stops in the final area, the water doesn’t hurt.

[weak spire]

Exactly. It's supposed to hurt you.

[pearl void]

Also, wasteland isn’t water, it’s sludge
@hushed steeple maybe it's water polluted by the corpes

[hushed steeple]

maybe because, the water is coming down so fast it hurts their skin?

[weak spire]

Nah, it's obviously factory waste as you guys mentioned.

[hushed steeple]

@hushed steeple maybe it's water polluted by the corpes
@King.#7185

So grim...love it

But unlikely. It is probably pollution from the industrial production in the past.

[weak spire]

That doesn't make any sense either.

If it was falling hard, there shouldn't be any creatures flying in the last area.

[hushed steeple]

Welp so it’s official

It’s game design

[vale ridge]

Yes

[weak spire]

I'm itching to ask jenova chen on twitter directly about this

[pearl void]

if it was acid rain, you should get hurt to those body of water where the rain fell in won't you?
@pearl void
@weak spire ok this is just my theory, the bell sound may have to do something to purify the water, the end of the forest it stop raining after the bell sound, the water is safe after that. At home, there's also bell sound every now and then to purify the water surround it

[hushed steeple]

@weak spire ok this is just my theory, the bell sound may have to do something to purify the water, the end of the forest it stop raining after the bell sound, the water is safe after that. At home, there's also bell sound every now and then to purify the water surround it
@King.#7185

If that was the case, shouldn’t they have already used it in wasteland to purify the sludge?

And shouldn’t there be like, blue sparkles, like the spell in the Ark?

[weak spire]

That contradicts the fact that the body of water also doesn't hurt when you touch it directly underneath those bridges in the last area on the hidden forest.

[pearl void]

They can but there's no pointy gold stupa, like in the forest, prairie and home to sound the bell at wasteland, if you notice

[hushed steeple]

They can but there's no pointy gold stupa like in the forest, prairie and home to sound the bell at wasteland, if you notice
@King.#7185

...what

I think the devs made the rain hurt to give a spice to forest, and to also teach players about damage and light regeneration.

[vale ridge]

Like when you lay down in the water, the rain doesn’t hurt because you’re under “something”

[weak spire]

That sounds low-key sadistic @hushed steeple

[pearl void]

@pearl void

...what
@hushed steeple the gold thing on the shelter or hut

[hushed steeple]

That sounds low-key sadistic @hushed steeple
@weak spire
And the Krills instakilling you aren’t?

[vale ridge]

Prarie introduces beauty

[weak spire]

they are high-key sadistic

[pearl void]

Prairie introduces idk
@hushed steeple manta!

And butterfly haha

[weak spire]

Hang on, the krills don't kill you instantly though.

[vale ridge]

Valley introduces excitement, just don’t go too fast or you’ll get hurt

[weak spire]

@hushed steeple game design-wise, kinda makes sense. but on the story telling side, not so much.

I hate the valley, not because of the ice walls that hurts you when you bump in it too hard. But the loud music every time you rush down the valley.

[vale ridge]

Me too

High five

“High five”
hugs me
“This is the best disobedience I’ve ever experienced”

[reef plover]

@nova tiger I wish you were here to finish the storyyy

[weak spire]

And the fact that android doesn't have the automatic mute for the music yet, adds more pain to my heart.

I get tired of it easily for some reason. ||Probably because i have bad taste in music, I don't know.||

[hushed steeple]

Going in the tunnel with full wedges, exiting out the tunnel with no light
@hushed steeple

That tunnel separates the boys from the men

True legends go through the tunnel and go out untouched

That includes me of course

You better do

teach sliding mastery/??
@hushed steeple
Fortunately for you, Ice sliding is one of my 5 PhDs

Along with Lore, Candlefarming, Being an Absolute Charisma Fountain and Being Annoying on the Internet.

[broken seal]

looks like theres a catapult in the forgotten ark area

[night sleet]

?

Do you have ot find the blue light for that?

To

[silk lynx]

Yep

[stray surge]

yea

[pearl void]

Even before the water is purified you actually can see the catapult

[stray surge]

does it work doe ? 👀

[pearl void]

I took one before, i thought wanna share it but never did

[heady sinew]

It looked like a normal rock tho

[silk lynx]

Not really

Shading is wrong

It's clearly either a concave object, or a buried pipe

[heady sinew]

Aaaa now I see it

I used to think it was just a normal rock lol

Silly me

[silk lynx]

Yeah I thought it was just scrap

[stoic abyss]

Yeah I noticed that as well, what do you think their gonna do with it?

[silk lynx]

Didn't even pay attention to the fact 'till I saw it here on the server

@stoic abyss Probably nothing

Just a silly easter or lore piece

[lilac stone]

THERE USED TO BE TURTLES IN SKY?!

[zealous summit]

Sure?

I wasn't aware of that

[pearl void]

Who are these season spirits anyway? Including spirits from past seasons. We know that Children of The Light is the first chapter of the Sky Kingdom, the dev said so. Maybe they are from other kingdom in other chapters

[frozen escarp]

Is there any consistent state-of-the-art canon to be read?

[faint sky]

What do you guys think the golden wasteland used to be for? Two areas look kinda like some sort of factory or pumping system

[wind bone]

I think it’s a combination of a factory and protecting the vault

[hushed steeple]

Idk if this necessarily is lore but one thing has always made me a little confused.

So we all know when we are flying from the valley to the wasteland we see this big guy

We also see him in an area Via ||Forrest||

But he is alsp diving up and downward the same way in both locations but it makes me curious as to how everything is laid out.

[wind root]

and final ofc

[ember zodiac]

I think Wasteland was a village before the Krills destroyed it and forced the people to leave.

But the Krills couldn't do anything to the Vault.

[zealous summit]

@hushed steeple Don't we also see Big Jimbo at the end of Eden?

[ember zodiac]

When the stars fell, the darkness came.

[hushed steeple]

Oh yeah!

[zealous summit]

He smashes into a pillar and out into orbit along with us

[ember zodiac]

There is one in the Underground forest too

[inland narwhal]

Think it was krill’s alpha.

[hushed steeple]

Yeah I've seen him there,dean and the wasteland

[sly kestrel]

Darkness came CAUSING the stars to fall

[heady sinew]

Is it confirmed there's only one whale? Poor Big Jimbo

[wind root]

wut

[heady sinew]

I have an ongoing theory about Krills and Whales lol. Here's a screenshot. I can fetch the rest if anyone is interested

[zealous summit]

wdym whales? Gasp Is Big Jimbo a whale?

Also, I'm adding that to the lore compilation. Calling Big Jimbo a whale is just generic, and if it's confirmed there's only one whale, it deserves a name

Jk, i can't access the lore (non-canon) doc, but maybe whoever is in charge of it can add it?

[sly kestrel]

Devies Calle em the tuna king

[abstract badger]

So, this must be the vault

Because the headpieces look like Vault cosmetics

And the guy in the top left corner may look familiar if you played the season of lightseekers...

Here’s the Forest

[sly kestrel]

Scholars from vault, Yupp

[abstract badger]

Storm, Krill, etc

I guess they’ve been here the entire time??

That’s kind of depressing

All this to say that they probably met the Prairie spirit from season of lightseekers

I mean, I haven’t seen that hat anywhere else

Also, these spirits may have been Vault scholars before they were stranded

[mossy bay]

I have a crabby question!

[heady sinew]

C r a b

[mossy bay]

Do any of you have thoughts on why the crabs like to circle around once they’ve attempted to attack you?

[heady sinew]

maybe so that you can't catch them. It might just be a nice little detail without too much meaning

Kind of like how dogs spin in circles before going to sleep? If you leave them alone for a while they settle down and pretend to be rocks lol

[mossy bay]

Yeah you’re probably right, I like their little pebble forms, if they attack you and you stay down they’ll stay like pebbles too!

it’s like they have a playful side to them@and then BAM they switch

[heady sinew]

They are grumpy stones

[sleek sail]

a n g e r y r o c k

[mossy bay]

Is this a fat krill drooling over a butterfly?! I’ve never seen this emote before, sorry guys

[drifting copper]

chubbers is just being friendly with the butterfly

[zealous summit]

Lol

[hushed steeple]

butterfly good

except for that time it landed on my butt...

ANYWHO I AM WONDERING WAS VAULT a huge scholar realm?

and what was the hidden forest's purpose

[sleek sail]

i'm thinking hidden forest is where they mined some kind of resource, maybe?

[hushed steeple]

i always thought it was a trading/manufacturing post-

[sleek sail]

like, the weeping spirit is stuck in a cave with stuff that looks like mining tools (haven't been there in a while so not sure on that one)

but that might also be it

[hushed steeple]

in b/w prairie and forest they kinda seem similar?

[sleek sail]

oh true

[hushed steeple]

i mean the yawn one was forging stuff to

too*

[sleek sail]

and the forest elder is forging something also, so maybe it's a combination of the two

[hushed steeple]

yeah

and the prairie peeps always hold this sort of pit

or vase

most likely from trading with the hidden forest peeps

pot*

[sleek sail]

i can't remember if this was canon or a theory made here but the pots are full of light taken from butterflies

[hushed steeple]

yeah they were probably farmers

[sleek sail]

i would check the document full of canon lore

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE

[hushed steeple]

agricultural while forest was industrial

wait i have another question

[sleek sail]

yeah

ask away

[hushed steeple]

did the valley peeps have OLYMPICS??? XD

[sleek sail]

that would've been epic

[hushed steeple]

cuz i mean they seem really sportive

backflips n handstands and bowing at the end of the performance

[sleek sail]

i think maybe they were like the fun area, where everyone went to for fun and games or something

[hushed steeple]

yeah

and the cheering lady was there too-

[sleek sail]

and the olympics thing sounds pretty reasonable too- a lot of the buildings in valley have a lot of things in common with greek/roman architecture

[hushed steeple]

ye

i have a feeling the music playing during the races is the national anthem

[sleek sail]

ooo i like that idea

[hushed steeple]

apart from the general theme of the game

it sounds super patriotic

with the trumpets and the lively bursts of energy

[sleek sail]

it does

[sly kestrel]

The hidden forest is a place of industry for the sky world and it was known for their production of power diamonds

Boom

[inner kelp]

so, the season topics can also discuss at here?

[sleek sail]

i think we can discuss stuff from season of enchantment, as long as it's something that's happened with everyone at the moment

meaning that anything from beta that hasn't happened yet is probably a spoiler and/or off limits

adding on to @sly kestrel 's theory thing: maybe hidden forest was where they made pots to hold light or where they mined/processed raw materials used to make power diamonds, and wasteland was where they actually made the power diamonds?

because forest doesn't seem super industrialized, but wasteland does (what with all the pipes and stuff)

[round river]

That makes sense

I was wondering what all the pipes for

[cobalt palm]

@round river it has been mentioned on a TGC stream the pipes have some story behind them

I think my closest guess is inspired from the Enchantment season, that they are used to pull light from whatever natural resource was in Wasteland before it became a desert (maybe) and is in Forest (before the pipes were broken) to pull light into the factories to create magic light

[boreal basalt]

I have a question, where the krills come from?

[broken seal]

krill depicted on boat mural can be seen in the entrance to ark

its flight path is timed so that u cant be seen by it while in the boat

[sly kestrel]

Wasteland seems more industrialized yes

But forest started the diamond production

One of the first factories is in forest

And um I have this huge theory paragraph explaining power diamonds and pots and stuff but

I’ll only send if u guys want me to

[heady sinew]

Forest is the powerhouse of the cell

Wait that's biology

@sly kestrel send the big paragraph boye

[sly kestrel]

Vibrato u seen it already wdym

[sacred beacon]

Oh btw so everyone and also me calls End of Eden just Eden, but I guess the world we play in is Eden. I mean the game obviously has religious undertones. Creatures of light and such, kindness and friendship, heaven and spirits. And dark dragons, evil creatures that represent satan and the snake. End of eden, adam and eve getting kicked out of paradise. Death and rebirth, that's more eastern religion, however there is an afterlife where you see the truth and meet those you've helped.

[inland narwhal]

These shields are something.

[sacred beacon]

Probably huge battles against whichever side the krill are on

[inland narwhal]

I think the diamond ones are new version.

[sacred beacon]

I guess it's a symbol for the things on top of the temples?

[inland narwhal]

But we don’t see those shields in eden. The shield with sun marked is from eden.

[sacred beacon]

I was thinking of prairie with the temples and wasteland with the guardian at the end and the desolate civilization

The sun symbol is in line with the themes of astronomy and light

Man I'm stupid it's actually called Eye of Eden

But yeah same message

[ornate anchor]

Felt like asking here, what is that large fish before the gateway between valley and wasteland? Like right behind the wasteland...hub?

[eternal totem]

its this

big fishy boi

[cosmic crown]

@ornate anchor it’s a coelacanth. They’re rare and prehistoric fish that still exist today. I recognized the shape of the shadow and a big fish also appears at Ascension to break the building too. Coelacanths are also considered to be an old icon in Christian religion as well.

[tawdry flare]

IT IS KNOWN AS WHALE

OR LIGHT DRAGON

oh wait are u actually asking what it is?

oop

[zealous summit]

Neither, Big Jimbo

[tawdry flare]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[zealous summit]

It's also at Eden

[ornate anchor]

Yes that, thanks

[eternal totem]

some images of it up close
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/695127356637184020

https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/695127588674207794

[zealous summit]

Big Jimbo is some sort of dragon, i think

[ornate anchor]

So passive unlike krills, cause this last time passing through was the first time I witnessed him

[wind bone]

The devs call the whale tuna king

But it’s also referred to as a whale in game sometimes

[night sleet]

Where is that?

[ornate anchor]

Here's ya boy

[wind bone]

Wasteland social hub

[night sleet]

Ohhh

[ornate anchor]

Right before, so entering from valley

[tawdry flare]

its not only at eden

its also at the 8 star needed gate in forest

It's also at Eden
@zealous summit

[zealous summit]

Ik

I haven't seen Big Jimbo in the caves yet

Seraph, where did you take the one where it's floating around you in space?

[wind bone]

Oob in orbit

[zealous summit]

Oh. How did you get a table down, though?

[wind bone]

We just placed it lol

[zealous summit]

Oh, out of bounds

[celest spoke]

cave whale is just in the cutscene when you’re entering the main caves, after the tunnel slide and first butterfly boost

[zealous summit]

Ok, i see. And it just hangs out in the orbit area?

[wind bone]

Yeah until you reach the trigger where it breaks the building

The spirits were also there oob

Swimming...

[zealous summit]

Huh. Wait, how did you get there w/o passing the breaking building?

[wind bone]

This is an old version of orbit

There was a hole

We literally just flew toward it

It’s Really far oob

[zealous summit]

Oh. So it's not there anymore 😦

[wind bone]

You probably could still reach it if you tried

I haven’t tried

[zealous summit]

I will. I want to do more research on Tuna King Jimbo. Where was the hole? || Inside the steps, near the queen jelly, or inside the slide that resembled valley? ||

[wind bone]

Orbit looked completely different back then

[zealous summit]

Oh

I'll hunt it down next week by myself

[elder iron]

is there link for forgotten ark lore?

[sly kestrel]

Do theories count? 😔

[elder iron]

mhm

i already forgot some theories from a link that was provided in the past here... i just like to read other peoples thoughts and why they think that

[hollow pier]

The star kids are also children of light probably, but maybe we all are? Like in general maybe all the kids are children of light, them and us.
@edgy sleet the winged lights are imprints left behind by a « child of light » the devs have said

what exactly are the krills? do they have any "relation" with the last of its kind whale that appears a couple of times in the game? were they a different creature corrupted by darkness?
@tropic cradle it’s a really good bet that krills are corrupted spirit whales (the big flappy thing in vault)

Why are the sky kids immune to every single body of water (except the wastelands of course) throughout the game but not on the forest?
@weak spire the forest water doesn’t hurt us, it’s the rain that drains our light
Edit: the rain probably hurts us and not the water because it’s possibly from the storm

[pearl void]

@edgy sleet the winged lights are imprints left behind by a « child of light » the devs have said
@hollow pier the child of light, is it the one in the beginning game of the cut scene? There's a person that connects to all the stars, the elders

[hollow pier]

and it was theorized that after he yawned, he died in his sleep from over working
@nova tiger the spirits died where we burn their bodies, so the yawn spirit died just inside the doors not on the bed

[pearl void]

Btw i landed on some platform before entering the breaking building and wander around

[hollow pier]

Unsure King! That might be the megabird or it might be the child of light or the prince? No clue

then whats winged light
@last coyote imprints left behind by a child of light-someone we know and have a relationship with apparently

since wasteland elder is wearing a mask that looks like a whale’s head
@nova tiger fun fact the masks the elders wear are related to each level: isle boat, praire pot, forest darkstone diamond, so this means that tuna king whales are related to wasteland somehow

How bout the bones in graveyard?
@hushed steeple
Whale bones
@hushed steeple So the devs have said the skulls are based off Irl turtles and the attached ribcages are based off irl whales but the skeletons don’t match Sky whales/tuna kings

[zealous summit]

YESSS BIG JIMBO RULES WASTELAND

[hollow pier]

Also is there dark stone in sky?
@hushed steeple
the closest to the dark stone are the red ones found in eden i guess
@weak spire
Darkstone=power diamonds

[edgy sleet]

I've been summoned! But I can't find the ping that pinged me?

[sly kestrel]

Go on ur mentions list

[edgy sleet]

Where is that? I didn't know that was a thing!

Ah! Thank you! It's in a different spot since I'm on desktop, but it is around!

[hollow pier]

It was me who pinged you! I was just saying we know what winged light is, because the devs say they’re imprints left behind by a child of light-someone we know and have a relationship with

[edgy sleet]

Ahhh so that's why I got double pinged, someone quoted a ping of me

Haha darn, here I thought someone really needed me for something!

[hollow pier]

What I think is interesting is we know this glowy child of light from before we fall to the world of sky! So we know them from orbit or something??!

They can but there's no pointy gold stupa, like in the forest, prairie and home to sound the bell at wasteland, if you notice
@King.#7185 the bridge has bells in it! Above where we light the bridge up and summon it whole again

[weak spire]

Who are these season spirits anyway? Including spirits from past seasons. We know that Children of The Light is the first chapter of the Sky Kingdom, the dev said so. Maybe they are from other realms in other chapters
@pearl void what do you mean the first chapter?

[hollow pier]

The devs have said that Sky: Children if Light is game one in a series they’re planning

[weak spire]

There's gonna be more installment from sky?!

[lilac stone]

A whale appears in forest right?

[weak spire]

In the underground hidden forest, yes.

[lilac stone]

Why are there clouds underground

[weak spire]

I think it's the same whale we see throughout the game.

Hang on.. The creature we saw flying around before we get to the wasteland, wasn't it also a whale?

[lilac stone]

@weak spire where

I don't think there's a whale in valley-

[weak spire]

The wasteland social area.

There was a creature flying through the sea of clouds.

[lilac stone]

@weak spire picture please?

I really don't explore wasteland

So I haven't seen much

[hollow pier]

@lilac stone
There you go!
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/704513759170920509

[nova tiger]

@nova tiger fun fact the masks the elders wear are related to each level: isle boat, praire pot, forest darkstone diamond, so this means that tuna king whales are related to wasteland somehow
@hollow pier I know about that, I even put references to the mask here before

[lilac stone]

I found a pic from wiki

[nova tiger]

The whale is seen when you enter from valley

[lilac stone]

Yeah it is a whale

The trimmed ends are there

[weak spire]

Are whales hostile to krills?

[lilac stone]

Idk