Only absence of light
#lore-discussion-spoilers
frank jacinth
So technically speaking, everything is light, some are just void of it, and in a way, it’s a torturous existence
spring blaze
🤯🤯🤯🤯
indigo scarab
frank jacinth
In theory, there could be a light version of the krill
Which would be the /real/ one
indigo scarab
They just yoinked that manta
spring blaze
even though i havent really seen it as referred as light dragon for a whiiile
frank jacinth
Also I’m assuming the game krill digestive system is similar to real krill
indigo scarab
And irl krills are invertebrates
spring blaze
the krills and whale are two separate entities so i doubt they were like.. the same
mhm
drifting copper
wasn’t darkness always a natural part of sky so
frank jacinth
No not the same
indigo scarab
yeah
frank jacinth
But a counterpart
spring blaze
yea lyst
drifting copper
real life science can’t really apply
spring blaze
yeah
frank jacinth
I mean it partially can
spring blaze
well yeah lyst. i dont see flying whales irl haha
drifting copper
krills and crabs are natural bois with thermal vision
frank jacinth
Darkness is natural
indigo scarab
Spirits:
Haha lets paint shrimp with vantablack
frank jacinth
It simply exists as the absence of light
drifting copper
spray paint shrimp bones black
frank jacinth
indigo scarab
Maybe some creatures are more tolerant to light than others.
frank jacinth
Yeah
indigo scarab
OOOH
frank jacinth
While darkness is absence of light
Creatures born in darkness
Will be killed if you suddenly bring them to light
indigo scarab
the deeper you go into the game-
The more you find deep sea creatures
indigo scarab
i mean it would not burn
frank jacinth
Everything gets darker(less light) as you go on
indigo scarab
It would just collapse under diffrence pressures
frank jacinth
That too
indigo scarab
Like blobfish
frank jacinth
But if we ignore the pressure science
indigo scarab
Yummy shrimp
spring blaze
crabs and krill are deep sea?
indigo scarab
yes
frank jacinth
Crabs aren’t as deep as krill
spring blaze
ohh that makes perfect sense-
frank jacinth
They’re deep
indigo scarab
Crabs and shrimp/krill species can be found in deep area of the sea
frank jacinth
But krill are like
spring blaze
the game of sky is also an ocean 
frank jacinth
Bottom-of-the-marina-trench deep
drifting copper
mariana trench deep is vague
indigo scarab
deep
cold steppe
it all depends though
drifting copper
like bro we talking about hadal zone or twilight zone
frank jacinth
If you think about it, oceans aren’t too different from skies
spring blaze
yeah
cold steppe
In all fairness though, I believe the official name for krill is "dark dragon" now
frank jacinth
Again, that’s true
spring blaze
yeah but they’re still referred to as krilled by the devs
cold steppe
it's interesting that we only have two dark creatures though
indigo scarab
Krill = dark dragon
Evolution time babey
frank jacinth
Yep
cold steppe
and a whole bunch of light creatures
frank jacinth
We nicknamed them after the irl creature they’re based off
spring blaze
dark dragon are prolly just their official name
drifting copper
i mean we only have 2 dark places in sky that’s habitable for them
frank jacinth
Yep!
indigo scarab
And birds are just.....
spring blaze
like those scientific names
indigo scarab
Birds
cold steppe
it makes you wonder if dark creatures are the corruptions of light creatures, or if only two dark creatures entered the world of sky
spring blaze
birds
frank jacinth
And it’s deeper into the game
Exactly @cold steppe
No darkness, only absence of light
cold steppe
birds are creatures of light
drifting copper
well we still have to figure out the creature that took down the ship
frank jacinth
Darkness is interrupted light
indigo scarab
Isint eden diamond the only corrupt light there is
drifting copper
yeah
frank jacinth
Yes I believe so
indigo scarab
yeah
I mean, krill and crab still have some light
Their eyes glow like skykid masks
frank jacinth
Not really though
indigo scarab
Krills are flash lights lmao
frank jacinth
It’s a sort of darkness
cold steppe
crabs could just be reflecting light
frank jacinth
If that makes any sense
indigo scarab
There is no light in wasteland except the ocasional fire pit
frank jacinth
Yeah
indigo scarab
But even so the flame isint white or deep red
cold steppe
it's interesting too that the krill light is either blue or red, where most of the light in Sky is orangish-yellow
frank jacinth
Which we light ourselves
cold steppe
yeah
indigo scarab
So no reflecting light
sly kestrel
After a while I jus gave up back reading the chat
spring blaze
jay welcome to the club of “not bothering to read up and hoping someone would catch us up”
frank jacinth
Blue is in the deepest part of the flame
indigo scarab
Read like i did, noobs lol
cold steppe
I wonder if it could represent the fact that it's different from the "regular" light
frank jacinth
Deeper in the game, the deeper the flame
indigo scarab
maybe krill light depends on diet
cold steppe
like it's "unnatural" or "alien"
drifting copper
they don’t even need to eat i think
they just attack because they see our heat signatures
must be cold being a krill
spring blaze
dont they “consume” light? i remember reading it or something ingame
grim python
so then why do they attack you when your light is out?
indigo scarab
Actually darker hues absorb more light then white
drifting copper
maybe to power their eye or keep themselves warm
drifting copper
yeah
cold steppe
I wonder how much of that is tied into lore or game mechanics though
drifting copper
dunno maybe we’ll have to see next season
drifting copper
indigo scarab
Maybe the darker hues in fungi,krill and crabs are made so they can absorb more light thus getting more warmth
cold steppe
ooh, interesting
indigo scarab
Since they rarely see the sun
drifting copper
i think there was a theory about the darkness plants
indigo scarab
Not all deserts are hot
drifting copper
but i don’t remember anymore
drifting copper
deserts at night are really cold right
drifting copper
it can reach negatives
cold steppe
you can actually freeze at night in some deserts
indigo scarab
Yeah
spring blaze
it snows in some no?
frank jacinth
Also Antarctica is a desert
indigo scarab
Yep
drifting copper
ok i think i remember a little bit of the fungi stuff we talked about
something about the darkness plants consuming the spirits through negative thoughts
indigo scarab
we might not see snow due to the dark (and thus heavily polluted/viscous) water being hard to evaporate. Also desert is not hot and only one area in game rains, also looks to have low humidity.
Wow
The mushrooms look really cool
spring blaze
evil shrooms
spring blaze
weehee
indigo scarab
Waaa
drifting copper
it was either
- darkness plants taking over abandoned areas
- darkness plants consuming spirits’ minds
- darkness plants using the spirits’ decaying body as a place for them to grow
indigo scarab
1 & 3 probably
cold steppe
yeah
indigo scarab
Graveyard is a example
drifting copper
but in the crying spirit’s memories the fungi was taking over their friend’s body even though they were still pretty alive
indigo scarab
abandoned military site + whale carcass buffet
drifting copper
no not yet
indigo scarab
Fungus grow on living people too.
drifting copper
they were talking
cold steppe
hmmm
indigo scarab
Like in the intestines or || toe fungus ew ||
drifting copper
well they must be stuck in place since the darkness plant was growing upwards and not from the body itself
cold steppe
that's what I'm slightly confused about
cold steppe
because it's a memory, and the spirit is dead, but the plant is burnable
cold steppe
like does the plant symbolize something?
cold steppe
that the spirit's friend will die?
indigo scarab
because uhhh ghost shrooms only exist in mario
spring blaze
i heard the plants were based off of flytraps and another plant
drifting copper
the amethyst mushrooms
cold steppe
some kind of remind me of lettuce
fiery condor
They were based on amethyst fungi things
indigo scarab
Goth mushrooms
drifting copper
LETTUCE
spring blaze
so the memories of the spirits we relieve were their final moments before they died from whatever happened?
fiery condor
They remind me of tacos
drifting copper
HHAHAEHBEDBBD
spring blaze
death cabbage
indigo scarab
Death Metal broccoli
fiery condor
What’s the difference between a lettuce and cabbage?
spring blaze
whhfhdfh
cold steppe
I'm not sure if it was final moments, or just an important memory
drifting copper
i think some are final moments and some are memories vividly remembered and held close to their hearts when they died
drifting copper
yeah
cold steppe
pretty significant, but probably not time of death
indigo scarab
Yes
cold steppe
even the cry spirit doesn't seem like they died personally
indigo scarab
DEATH BY BELL, COCO MOVIE STYLE
fiery condor
The plants grew on the bell towers because they weren’t used for so long I guess
spring blaze
idk why but yknow the hands on hips spirit. i kinda just imagined that as their final moments before the explosion of eden happened
cold steppe
just the fact that there were so many deaths and goodbyes
spring blaze
they died on the spot overlooking ice rink
spring blaze
which makes it even SADDER
indigo scarab
Rip kid
fiery condor
It’s like infinity war
indigo scarab
Maybe their bodies are preserved under all of that ice and snow
drifting copper
maybe
drifting copper
sounds ew
fiery condor
That is horrifying
drifting copper
plus it’s been hundreds, thousands, millions heck millenia since the kingdom’s downfall when we were sent down
could’ve been billions and trillions of years
fiery condor
The bodies could’ve decayed, and their memories remain
spring blaze
were spirits boneless
cold steppe
we see creature bones
drifting copper
maybe they were boneless
fiery condor
Um
spring blaze
jelly baby
drifting copper
ngl they’re very fat
cold steppe
I wonder if they simply became light
drifting copper
YES JELLY BABY
spring blaze
well
fiery condor
Gasy jelly bb
spring blaze
fat labourers were fat
cold steppe
or shattered
indigo scarab
If they are preserved then dig em
drifting copper
the spirits are like the human equivalent in sky
indigo scarab
If they are decomposing then ew
cold steppe
we're not exactly the same as the spirits, but we shatter then become light
fiery condor
Well they can grow as moss
fiery condor
But the concept of spirits decaying is 
drifting copper
maybe that explains why there’s the big darkness plant in forest’s temple?
indigo scarab
They seem organic to me
drifting copper
the butterfly and manta grinding
indigo scarab
And why the fungi grow on some of em thru flashbacks
cold steppe
maybe that fungi symbolized where one died
indigo scarab
Yeah
drifting copper
yeah
indigo scarab
Meaning the fungi is eating at the remains
fiery condor
Hm
indigo scarab
Meaning
drifting copper
like real mushrooms
indigo scarab
Decomposition
fiery condor
Could be a big manta that died there
cold steppe
ooh, that's an interesting point
fiery condor
dark plants
indigo scarab
The dark yea
fiery condor
Oh gosh that’s scary
cold steppe
idk
indigo scarab
Yeah
cold steppe
dark plants
indigo scarab
Because they are like venus fly traps had babies with shrooms
cold steppe
yeah, which could make the trapping plausible
cold steppe
maybe that's why the spirit died
couldn't get them out
though I wonder why the mantas are trapped
spring blaze
venus flytraps are carnivorous
cold steppe
true
fiery condor
Never seen an amethyst fungi, looks interesting on the internet
indigo scarab
Arsonist child burns everything they see
Ghosts? Done.
Candles? Ok
Plants? Aww yeah
cold steppe
burn it all
indigo scarab
BURN
cold steppe
fire solves everything
indigo scarab
EVERYTHING MUST DIE
spring blaze
yall can eat them amythyst shrooms
indigo scarab
cold steppe
which makes you wonder, is the red rain hot or cold?
fiery condor
spring blaze
everything’s already dead 
indigo scarab
You can?
spring blaze
red rock rain is hard
indigo scarab
super mario is lie
spring blaze
yeah
indigo scarab
how could nintendo do this
spring blaze
theyre edible but like they also absorb arsenic soil so
indigo scarab
Ah
fiery condor
I mean the diamond is unstable so ig hot
cold steppe
hmmm, I wonder if it's more the force of the rocks hitting than the heat
indigo scarab
nah the red rain is parts of the eden diamond that broke off
Due to unstable nature
fiery condor
exactly
indigo scarab
Much like radioactive minerals but larger scale
It just shoots off
Nyoom
POW POW
fiery condor
Someone must’ve hit the big diamond with a big hammer
indigo scarab
Edgy diamond ♦️ is broken
fiery condor
Exploded from the unstable energy it contains itself with
indigo scarab
Radioactive minerals kinda just explode all of the time on a microscopic scale
spring blaze
funky lil atoms
indigo scarab
I remember a vid demonstrating a piece of radioactive rock shooting off atoms
Ima see if i can find
cold steppe
that would make sense
indigo scarab
ta-da
Makes sense
Poor skykid getting pummeled at that force lmao
(hopefully the link is visible)
hushed steeple
Hmm I back read a bit, the part with the cry emote? I don’t know if the guy with the dark plant actually died whilst talking there. I mean, they were talking so casually, hard to believe they would act that way if the dude was being consumed by a dark plant
Plus that was in the past, there’s no proof the dark plant grew while he was sitting there chatting, could have been a little afterwards or something
sly kestrel
I agree
And Ik I got too lazy to back read but
I think the plant was there after he died
sly kestrel
I still feel bad for her mannn
All her friends jus died 
gloomy orchid
Yeah
I had forgotten about the spirits’ stories, it’s been so long since I’ve discovered them all
lost relic
I’m just surprised after our character literally sees a spirit go through death we just get a wacky lil faint emote right over his corpse
grim python
well it is a child’s interpretation of death. Most children can’t grasp the concept of it at a young age so your skykid is just like “oh haha he fainted”
drifting copper
“he’s just sleeping! right?”
yeah kids don’t grasp the concept of death until they start seeing it everywhere
grim python
but you think they’d get it after going through eden so many times
drifting copper
n a h
grim python
actually wait no
That get reborn
They probably will never grasp the concept of permanent death
drifting copper
well they don’t really have their own thoughts or emotions
so yeah they’ll never know what anything means jddbdjbd
pastel garnet
What would happen if a skykid decided to never enter eden and just grow up? Would it work, or would they be a kid forever?
pastel garnet
So, the adult spirits must be something else entirely if they’re able to grow up and skykids can’t.
drifting copper
yeah the spirits are a different species from us
gotta remember they weren’t always spirits
they had a living life
pastel garnet
Yeah, I guess I sort of forgot they were alive at one time.
carmine saffron
Guys
Hi
I just wanted to ask
Do you know what krills or dark dragons exactly are and why they chase after us?
limpid basin
Everything has a sea theme if you look closely at the animals
That was a crap analysis sorry I’m tired
carmine saffron
I noticed that! I did also read part of the stuff you guys were saying earlier
I only don’t understand why they chase us: they don’t eat us or benefit of it...I thought they could be disturbed by the light but they have a shining eye
exotic shuttle
sometimes the ‘message of the day’ in sky says “the dark dragon is hungry for your light”
dull coral
They don’t eat your wings, they eat the light your body gives off
Think of the manta in the desert
pastel garnet
Sounds like they are starving for the light and innocence they know they’ll never have
So they just try to get as much as they can, even if it means hurting light creatures to get it
Sorry I know this is a bit dark 
drifting copper
it’s not darka t all
also there’s some reason to believe krills and crabs have always been dark creatures
i thought they just felt cold and wanted to absorb heat so they have a temporary high body temperature
pastel garnet
That makes sense
cold steppe
like reptiles!
sly kestrel
Heyyy list u changed ur username
carmine saffron
also there’s some reason to believe krills and crabs have always been dark creatures
@drifting copper cool idea!
sly kestrel
I have reason to believe that because a devy said that darkness was a natural part of the world and I always assumed crabs and krills were apart of that natural darkness
carmine saffron
I only find strange the way they hunt, but maybe it’s only functional to the game
exotic shuttle
i think i remember hearing that too (that darkness didn’t suddenly show up, there was always darkness)
i’m not sure if that means that krill are natural though. especially since they seem so mechanical (even electronic with that glowing eye/spotlight)
sly kestrel
True, but a mechanic war machine never made sense to me and Ik they are extremely related to the idea of guardians from journey and they were mechanic but until we have a confirmed answer
I’m gonna believe the fact that they are natural dark creatures
Oh yea I heard this somewhere too
All creatures in sky are natural
still valve
So the credits show that there are multiple sources of light? Idk if that’s canon or if that’s just an aesthetic touch since all (I think) of them except for the one we come from is next to a developer’s name, but if it is canon then how come our one is the only one that has seemingly produced life ?
spring blaze
all those stars make up the megabird at the end
if the megabird gave us life, then all those lights played a part in making us
which would make sense considering its the credits imo
also idk if im stretching but rewatching the credits scene i noticed some lines
something like that
exotic shuttle
nice find
cold steppe
I love that
willow pumice
Is there written article about detailed sky story? I want to learn what this game is about
fiery condor
Sky’s lore is all in your interpretation. Sky is, from what the developers said, is all about stages in life and death. Like isle being the time we are born, prairie our childhood, forest our teenage life, valley our mid stage life (young adult), wasteland our adulthood, vault possibly old age or revisiting memories before death since Eden is the end of Sky, and the end of our life is death.
sly kestrel
That’s what it symbolizes but the true lore of sky about the civilization and history and stuff, we barely have any clues, we jus have theories and speculations
So yea, it mainly depends on how u interpret the lore and how you make ur own story
fiery condor
Just that the history and the questions we ask about it is still a mystery, since we came to the sky world like, millennials later
I wonder is that how long the spirits were trapped after the big diamond destruction?
sly kestrel
We all have our theories but we barely have anything confirmed at all
pastel garnet
I like the lack of confirmation sometimes. It makes little “discoveries” feel special
Other times it’s just annoying
wispy jolt
Sometimes seems like they just wanted to make a game based on journey and didn't build a full story at all.
Meanwhile, you keep repeating the same thing everyday in the same realms, getting candles/hearts to buy outfits which the only use is to replay the game again.
Max your cape power to replay the game again.
Buy pass to get better cosmetics, used to replay a g a i n.
Keep wondering what the story is about..
Keep buying. 
indigo scarab
The game is about my bank account and how i should surrender my wallet to tgc
ancient mountain
😂
hushed steeple
exotic shuttle
finally we can close the lore channel. it’s complete.
that’s it everyone, y’all can go home now
fiery condor
Your job is done, it’s been revealed
brazen solstice
nova tiger
i think i remember hearing that too (that darkness didn’t suddenly show up, there was always darkness)
i’m not sure if that means that krill are natural though. especially since they seem so mechanical (even electronic with that glowing eye/spotlight)
i like to think of it as that fish with the light on their head
exotic shuttle
oh right
humble barn
i think I've seen a sketch of an angler fish in this channel
but I agree with joshur about krill light, it does looks artificial. I know some creatures on earth which emit light, but none of them emit a spotlight, directional light, like krill do
fiery condor
And the way they attack us, it’s like they’re programmed to do that
Makes me think that us skykids are secretly robots
pastel garnet
Noooo don’t say that
pastel garnet
Yes we do, we just didn’t know how to express those emotions until we saw the spirits express theirs
It’s like language. I don’t know how to say something unless I learn to speak, but I know what I want to say
fiery condor
Hm I guess you have a point there
exotic shuttle
i think there's good points on both sides. i want to believe we're not soulless automatons tho so i choose to believe that.
fiery condor
Maybe to merge both sides, at the start of isle, we’re born weak and capeless. And no emotions yet, the spirits in isle teaches us basic interactions to communicate better to others. Then in prairie and forest some spirits teach emotions.
I’m starting to think spirits played a role to develop the skykid the more they progress until Eden
pastel garnet
Yes, that sounds right. I like that idea
velvet burrow
And the cosmetics can be a way to express the emotions, but not definitely
fiery condor
Valley is all about sports and their culture? I guess..
I guess they teach us certain stunts, to have fun with others and how to have good sportsman ship (like the bow spirit).
Wasteland is when you have to be alert to your surroundings because of krills.
Oh yeah, but not really. It’s sometimes for aesthetic purposes too. To me, cosmetics helps sky kids’ find who they want to be, to express who they are
Dang this went deep
hasty surge
heylo peeps, why is the sky behind Wasteland temple a big wall
like is that just how big Vault is or what
sly kestrel
Vault is in the mountain but who knows that might be vault
We’ve noticed it for a long time but could never guess what it is
fiery condor
Maybe it’s what the wasteland temple looks like with the gate entrance to vault
brazen ravine
A fallen city hufufh
fiery condor
I mean look how long the hallway was when we are about to enter vault
sly kestrel
The whole sky kingdom is a fallen city 😂
brazen ravine
The golden wasteland is just the fallen city but it took the extra steps
Into despair
sly kestrel
Love how u censored the cape, spoiler free 👍🏼
fiery condor
Not anymore golden
brazen ravine
oooOo
Seeing as so many krill probably live there I wonder if they were once captivated in the temple by the elder and their army (probably had o ne)
And then once things started going sideways they might’ve just broken ou t at the wrong time for everyone
o r b u i l t t h e r e
hasty surge
oh wait yeah this could still be part of the temple, since it's just the entrance to Vault, ohhhh maaaassiiive
brazen ravine
Very much tempted to draw an assumption of how the entire temple would loo k
indigo scarab
Krill maik clanky noise
tepid island
Hello everyone
indigo scarab
Hi
sly kestrel
So to add on my diamond production theory I noticed that these gold carriers are actually identical to the top of the diamond press and on the sides. Before I jus theorized it but with an hour of screenshots I noticed they are all the same. Based on the forest diamond press I think the power diamonds were produced and taken out of these gold carriers, THEN they were ready to be used
indigo scarab
Epic 0-0
broken seal
a bit late to the conversation, but i personally believe skykids are created with empty souls made of light with the sole purpose of completing their mission. they learn emotions by copying the spirits until, as we see at the end of eden, they truly possess empathy
charred willow
Guys I think I know exactly how sky kids work
So they're body is made of a stone which has a winged light/ soul inside it. It then has an internal flame lit up so that it can have a design it then has multiple layers of winged light to protect the internal winged light
cold badge
Yo I’m super late to this conversation (and discord smh) but whatever I’m here. Anyway I believe all the lore in this game can be summed up into a single sentence that, let’s admit it we’ve all thought: Hehe the crabs are so fun.
spring blaze
ur wrong
sly kestrel
Nice pfp
spring blaze
its "hehe the crabs are so fun and boats are so cool"
cold badge
@spring blaze you are so right I’m sorry.
spring blaze
fiery condor
This is something I thought of while I was just looking at the ceiling of my room. Lighting up your friend’s star means you’re still keeping in touch with them, keeping stable your relationship. But the less times you light each other’s stars, the less you’d see them in your constellation (if not on favorite list), and the more thar goes on, the more they’ll drift away from your constellations.
Just a thought really not about lore stuff.
hushed steeple
Okay so.. i make wild thoughts about the history of each of the elders because my brain makes way too much vivid imagery.
Now if im not mistaken, fan names for the valley elders are Pollux and Castor. While theres this..complex story of the gemini twins, i mostly looked into their relationship, like how pollux mourned over castor’s death, and begged to zeus to bring him back, thus pollux’s immortality is shared with the twin, and now are inseparable from each other.
Idk but imagining this moment where Pollux (mushroom hair?) holds her brother close to her, asking, begging endlessly to Cassiopeia (vault?) to find a way to bring him back. With compassion, she splits the sister twin’s immortality to Castor’s, and now they both rule the Valley of Triumph AND completing the X-style constellation.
What is this i- ;-;
spring blaze
thats a neat theory!
hushed steeple
Im not sure if its considered as one actually🤔
ember temple
:O
spring blaze
thats a neat connection/thought!
cold bough
I have a theory that there are multiple “kingdoms” in Sky. Each Kingdom is like the main one, and it has 7 mini kingdoms, including their version of Eden. Sometimes spirits from there will leave (traveling spirits) and visit other kingdoms, making seasons. If our spirits decided to travel, then they would go to other kingdoms. I think that they would be the Season of Life, because each kingdom/realm is meant to represent a stage in life. The Winter Season spirits would be from a chilly realm, and their 7 kingdoms would be winter themed. The other realms/kingdoms/homes of traveling spirits are across the ocean, each with small islands with portals to the kingdoms. The Skykids can’t fly or swim far enough to reach the islands, but the spirits can.
Idk if this makes any sense 😂 Simplified: Seasonal spirits are from their own groups of 7 kingdoms across the ocean.
ember temple
Interesting
fiery condor
They made fan names of the elders based on greek gods and similarities of the gods’ stories?
I didnt know :0
cobalt palm
Lore moth is researching her first painting in live
uncut bone
Alright for the new season
I’ve got some info for you guys
This symbol means ascendance/ascend however you want to call it.
Now, realms.
There are 7 spirits there.
Overruling my own thinking, ascendance is the vault.
The middle one is the ultimate spirit, as he’s holding nothing.
The others we can easily recognize, air, fire, and water.
pulsar dragon
thats the alchemical symbol for air
quick star
Yep
quick star
It's fine
uncut bone
But that’s air?
quick star
Yep, easily recognizable by many
quick star
I'm not really sure what the wavy symbol is, anyway wind is just moving air
uncut bone
True.
The only things that I do not know of are the purple diamond and the yellow marks.
I think the yellow marks look somewhat like a footprint, maybe having to do with creatures?
pastel garnet
Ok I seriously cannot wait for this new season.
mellow rune
Dude, I already saw leaks of it before the announcement and I called my friend and keep in mind, I’m a very chill person and she said I was scaring her with how much I was freaking out, like I was about to have a stroke and she just told me if I calmed down enough to the point I wasn’t screeching she would buy the season pass for me, her and some other random friend (she’s very shy so she ironically doesn’t have many friends on the game where friends are key)
it still took me a bit to calm down
scarlet wren
sly kestrel
Megabird maybe?
hushed steeple
It’s labeled as the megabird🤔
Also..mightve been mentioned already but, the elder heads displayed on the eden gate doesnt include the isle elder right.?
Cuz if so, maybe the reason is that his realm resembles birth and stuff. Reasonable ig
sly kestrel
there’s a reason for that and it’s beta related but I don’t have it
I think mirian does
MIRIANNNN
hushed steeple
hushed steeple
Thank you!
sly kestrel
U can look up “sky light awaits” on YouTube if ur a lil confused
elder iron
who would like to tell me their version of sky lore?
or send me a link to some stories because i can’t find any
gloomy orchid
there’s a whole lot of things you can check out in the pins @elder iron ! i still haven’t read through it all haha
elder iron
dang i keep forgetting about the pins.... can’t believe i still haven’t figured out everything about discord
snow loom
@astral basin check pinned here
astral basin
ok thanks !
elder iron
can someone say what all the elements are what what symbol/color they belong to? i think the red one is fire, dark blue is water,and light blue is air. i’m mostly just confused with the purple, yellow/orange, and limeish green one. up there 👆 in the chat someone said that the limeish green was the alchemical symbol for air which is true but i’m pretty sure that the light blue is air..... idk that’s why i’m asking you all..... and please @ me if you are talking to be or else i will never know you said something lol
errant rivet
been thinking about making an easier to read version of the current lore theory compilation with a “”better”” (no offense to the original author i appreciate their work) layout, seeing as the current google doc is kinda hard to comprehend for someone like me who has a hard time focusing, yay or nay?
ornate apex
I had this floating in my brain and I need it out; I’ve just noticed that almost all spirits in rain and waste have darkness plants near the beginning and/or near the end of their memorys so that got me thinking.
since dark plants are known (correct me if I’m wrong) to steal light. so technically speaking if a thing of light fell, would plants not eat away at it? Like some kinda twisted light decomposing system?
And that’s why the plants give wax? Because wax is light in some for or another?
It would explain why some of the plants mark their final resting place, (aka where the memory ends)? For example the cry spirit in rain, or the sneak spirit in waste.
errant rivet
alright seems like my idea got generally positive feedback, ill see if i can start working on it...!
sly kestrel
Hmmm if ur talking about hage jiisama’s google doc u can edit it if u want
I understood it clearly, he’s jus presenting the current confirmed stuff we have and the info we got from some live-streams.
tribal locust
Perhaps the light blue is ice
It really does look like air though
Sun and moon/Day and night for yellow and purple?
broken veldt
So someone said that the green one is the alchemical symbol for air, if that's true why aren't the other symbols from the same "family" of symbols, and if you look at the light blue its the alchemical symbol for water, but that would be weird because the dark blue is a drop which usually represents water. So I don't think we should be looking at alchemical symbols I think we should be looking at a different family of symbols, one that maybe is ancient and old and came from the same place as the theme of the new season
violet lily
Hi I’m new to this but I noticed these weird stones popping up all over sky and I’m curious if it’s for the new season?
sly kestrel
Those are clocks
The one in the forest is the clock to show the rainbow, I forgot what time it appears but the inner dot is the hours and outer dot is the minutes
The other 2 clocks are leftover from beta, sadly they don’t do anything anymore
violet lily
Awwww, thx for clearing this up though 
sly kestrel
No problem
waxen scarab
so im guessing eden is like heaven and in order to make it there a child of the light needs to sacrifice themselves in order to fight evil
sly kestrel
That’s a new theory
pastel garnet
Why does this look like face?? What if it held something other than butterflies before it was left here? I can’t imagine what though
slender jungle
mellow rune
What if
They would hide soldiers in there, send them to the enemy and have them come out, that would be their form of ventilation/vision
just a theory
a game theory
hushed steeple
Let’s not stuff children in pots now
fiery condor
👁️
grim python
But stuffing butterflies in pots is completely fine
snow loom
Let’s not stuff children in pots now
And who exactly is going to stop me?
mellow rune
Not me
sly kestrel
Wha what did I come back to.....👀
drifting copper
hell
you came back to hell
the server’s so chaotic now i might take a break from discord
sly kestrel
Before u guys mention children again
Pleaseeeee don’t forget that skykids came after the civilization ended
drifting copper
we did not participate in the civil war
crimson grove
Anyone can mention whatever they think would be related to lore here even if it’s not canonical and the general consensus on this channel. We have many new players and everyone is welcome to theorize here, as you are welcome to state your own personal theory
warm fern
you can totally put a skykid in a jar
putting aside the jar mask, does anyone know if the spiky masks represent any specific objects in the game?
or are they just like... star-shaped
sly kestrel
Spiky mask?
Well if ur talking about the sleep spirit mask, it’s based on a whale
But if ur talking about the twin elder masks, they are meant to be “simple and comfortable” masks and this is mainly because they are athletes
warm fern
I wouldn’t have figured the whale one, can’t see the similarity
sly kestrel
Yea u can notice it more if u look at the whale corpse in forest
lone epoch
If you pay attention the the models of the masks, you’ll notice that some are based on the masks/headpieces worn by each elder, Valley twins excluded of course. The play dead/sleep spirit’s mask is close to, if not identical to the Wasteland elder’s mask.
hexed mist
I imagine it's very similar to a "tribe" mentality of being dressed similarly to those you're close with and your elders
maiden glen
Vault headpiece is the same as the vault elders! (Pretty close anyways)
There’s also the boat headpiece and the butterfly pot looking one
hushed steeple
Boat headpiece? This one?
maiden glen
Yes
hushed steeple
Oh wow! I didn't realize it was a boat
maiden glen
It’s similar to Isle grandpas 
hushed steeple
I have his beard 
sly kestrel
Isle mask is a boat, praire is a pot, forest is a diamond bc of the diamond production I believe, twins are jus comfortable simple masks, wasteland is a whale, and vault
I think it’s just a
SacReD hEAd pIeCe
sly kestrel
Yep
Not rlly noticeable at first
But if u go to the semi last level of forest where there’s a whale corpse
U can see it clearly
hushed steeple
Aw
That whale corpse always makes me sad cuz they're my favorite
Also does anyone know what type of eggs the ones in forest are, in the semi last level up on the tall broken tree?
hushed steeple
Ah ok
quick frost
There's an egg?
spring blaze
in the last area in forest, on a tree stump there’s a bunch of eggs
near the temple
hushed steeple
I see it now
cold atlas
I always assumed that the Vault mask was supposed to look somewhat like the Vault itself
hushed steeple
I thought it was like ancient knowledge or something lol
lime narwhal
Hey! I have studied magic for over 10 years and the symbols for the Enchantment Spirits are (from left to right):
Psychic, Illusion/Conjuring, Fire, Water, Air, Earth
AND IM SO GOSHDANG EXCITED FOR IT YOU HAVE NO IDEA
Anyway...had to get that off my chest. Lmao cx
grim forge
o
misty cedar
Does anyone have a theorie of why the sky children exist, since when they started existing and what the purpose or goal they have?
open perch
Is not really a theory is told on the story of sky ,as far as I know sky child’s are born to relieve spirits and the final goal is to save as || much children of light as they can in eden ,and ascend after ||
But exactly when I don’t know ,maybe after the war ,or after everything was lost
misty cedar
Okayy thxx 
lime narwhal
Imo, it’s based on reincarnation and mediumship after a war-ravaged planet was destroyed.
“Angels,” if you will.
sly kestrel
@misty cedar
The answer is in the intro cutscene
cold steppe
just as a note, you don't need to spoiler tag anything in this channel
lusty lynx
I got into the office once and now can’t find it again can anyone help me get there?
wary prism
@lusty lynx Not quite the right channel to ask as this channel is for lore discussion, but the entrance to the office is in vault. Once you enter the level via the portal at home, turn left and fly up to the ledge. The entrance will be behind the back wall there.
hushed steeple
lusty lynx
Thank you
abstract badger
Maybe this channel should be renamed to #don’t-ask-your-questions-here-lore-discussion-spoilers
spring blaze
#no-need-to-spoiler-in-lore-discussion-spoilers
spring blaze
#lore-galore
sly kestrel
I like that one
magic relic
I made a drawing of what I looked like in the beginning of the game when I was in the desert
karmic ledge
A fun crab lore fact: there's a specific reason for the way that Sky's crabs walk the way they do. their walkcycle mimics something... 
wise rampart
what wha?!
broken veldt
LORE BOMB 💥
wise rampart
mimics?
broken veldt
Penguins?
wise rampart
Uhhhh
broken veldt
Spiders?
wise rampart
Krill!
You see how the krill move their legs!
Its the same pattern as Krill!
You could assume krill eat crabs!
and the crabs would use mimicry to try to survive!
broken veldt
We know kills attack everything with light, but we can also assume it eats everything with light, like the manta
wise rampart
I mean, its just a possibility. It may not be krill at all.
broken veldt
Crabs are not creatures of light though, they themselves attack us because we are a source of light, it's an interesting theory though
Possible that crabs were the main source of food for Krills but then the crabs could have evolved into creatures that resemble Krills so they wouldn't be the main food source anymore
wise rampart
It has to be a creature from sky.
broken veldt
Try to look as similar as possible to Krills? Maybe they had light before but then lost it due to evolution and now they themselves attack light like Krills
wise rampart
We have jellyfish, mantas, ancestors, skykids, krill.
broken veldt
Why does it have to be a creature from sky?
wise rampart
and birds, but birds and mantas don’t have legs
I would assume as much
eeeh, I ruined everything again. I’ll go hide now
broken veldt
And it says their walk cycle, so is it the way they walk and the pattern which they travel in, or is it the way their kegs move?
You didn't ruin anything, you are free to theorize whatever you want
@wise rampart come back lol I don't want to be alone 😅
broken veldt
Hmm... Ok
wise rampart
direct quote: there's a specific reason for the way that Sky's crabs walk the way they do. their walkcycle mimics something...
broken veldt
But it seems like it's both due to "sky's crabs walk the way they do" and "their walkcycle mimics something"
It's two different things
Is there a walk cycle that crabs have other than randomly walk around until they attack light?
wise rampart
its not two. A walkcycle is just how and when they walk, which is the same as walking the way they do.
Ash its chaos, how could you be so vaaaaaague ;-;
broken veldt
Maybe I should just stop, my English is screwing with me 🤦♀️😅
sly kestrel
I didn’t even pay attention to their walk, I thought their leg animation was just little wiggles
Ash why u gotta make me think so much
What do they mimic 
sly kestrel
someone send a crab walking *
Idk if ur reading but u should do this more often
Give us tiny hints to think about and topics for the lore chat to go like
Just stuff for us to think about ya kno
woven perch
didnt you see ash's comment
sly kestrel
Yes I saw ash’s comment and that’s why I said that in the first place ^
I jus felt it’s a good idea for him and other devys to give us comments like that. It gives the lore chat.....LIFE
woven perch
oooh i c
pulsar dragon
plot twist the elders just took people and smashed them into crabs
waddle waddle
hushed steeple
Theory: krills are crabs evolved in PokéSky world 
abstract badger
A fun crab lore fact: there's a specific reason for the way that Sky's crabs walk the way they do. their walkcycle mimics something...
@karmic ledge “something” as in not necessarily an animal
Maybe it’s supposed to represent technology or robots?
How they’ll steal our livelihoods if we get to close?
sly kestrel
Hmmm
Could be a living thing or a non living thing
“Something”
karmic ledge
spring blaze
QUICK! SOMEONE PIN THAT CRAB LORE FACT
also crabs help each other up when one is knocked over
wise rampart
Ash please piiiin
fleet hamlet
am I allowed to post screenshots from beta? It about crabs
wise rampart
spoiler them
wary prism
beta things in the beta channels only 😔
fleet hamlet
cRap I’m in mObiLe-
wary prism
dsuafkvj not a mod but yup! please dont post them here even if they are spoiler tagged
wary prism
we'll have to wait till things hit live before we can all geek out about them
fleet hamlet
Ok but cr a b
wary prism
fleet hamlet
spring blaze
ah boat and jar
nova tiger
Forest mask(diamnod)
Uhhh
VALLEY MASK (athlete)
Valley mask 2 (athlete)
Wasteland mask (???)
spring blaze
loki mask
astral basin
loki !!!
astral basin
i love loki !!! okay bye
nova tiger
Here’s some uhh
spring blaze
^ that last one is the wasteland elder’s mask
nova tiger
References if you need lore on,it
sly kestrel
I think I said this already but that wasteland mask is based on a whale ^
Valley masks don’t exactly resemble a specific thing like the others
It’s jus meant to have a simple design that’s comfortable since they are athletes
hushed steeple
Spooky
sly kestrel
scarf mask...
sand abyss
so something interesting about this seasonal spirit ( aka my favourite ) seem to have brought something from the start of the pipe to the top of the pipes
don’t think i ever seen a sparkly thingy that’s shes holding before, especially during the light seekers season with her !
heard from my friends that she could be a healer/medic or something
that poor body tho
cobalt palm
Poor guy got crabbed
sand abyss
yup!!
Looks like it, seem like these critters really up for revenge upon the spirits !
wooden hazel
Oops I forgot I post captures from livestream in beta channel, will post those images later here(Link removed)
I guess the dev made some minor adjustment to the crab call lady, make the memory more fit to concept of Lightseekers, and the upcoming season
sand abyss
Thanks Akatsuki for the entire story pics of her!!
sadly i didn’t get third last pic since i had to get krilled for the new comers
warm fern
oh man I can’t believe it took me this long to realise that the crabs in Sky don’t walk sideways
wooden hazel
Have been waiting some sky kids there to revive memory 
sand abyss
and now you know that the crabs walk forwards, Eralea !
Also guess i had mine lucky with immediately entering into the server with a lot of players there!
warm fern
they waddle round and round but they move in a forward direction unlike rl crabs
broken seal
personally think the winged lights sitting down near the end of eden represent the fear and exhaustion the child of light(?) was feeling at the end of his/her mission
sly kestrel
Wow it was so hard to tell what was going on when I first got the spirit. She’s a.....healer
fiery condor
She heals crab wounds
sly kestrel
no..
Well I didn’t interpret it that way
No u could be right
When I first did the spirit in lightseekers, I never saw her sparkly thingy and with the blue glow, the memories jus looked like a blur. If it wasn’t for the grey update I don’t think we would’ve speculated any of this 😂
sturdy gate
Maybe the spirit she is healing is just bugged? It looks pretty weird
exotic shuttle
looks like they're half buried in the sand to me
brazen ravine
What if the crabs are just baby krill and that’s why they are always lurking beside their bigger and more violent parents the k ri l l
idle tapir
brazen ravine
Eat the children
cold steppe
no
brazen ravine
Wait is that why they they’re so angry with us 🗿
cold steppe
no crab eating
mystic moat
sly kestrel
Hey blame the spirits for that
Skykids are innocent
midnight remnant
Are the krill the big flashlights?
cold steppe
yes
broken seal
new theory: krill are flashlights the spirits used for construction
cobalt palm
danger light noodle
broken seal
also, to any mods or community managers here, we are allowed to theorize about the upcoming content so long as resources used are available in the full game or from tgc's media outlets?
cold steppe
not a mod, but the general rule of thumb is that anything NOT from beta is usually acceptable
broken seal
epic
pastel brookBOT
Hey @broken seal, do you think people like me?
broken seal
yes, especially when u protect oreo from evil krill
pseudo iris
Has anyone else noticed that this elder symbol appears more in valley? I’m not sure... I just see it on nearly every structure
rain olive
Does anyone have timeline someone posted here a while ago
sly kestrel
I’m not sure exactly what it is but in old concepts I saw a shape that looked sort of like that triple triangle design and it said that this sharp edged pattern kinda vibe is supposed to represent technology and the growth of power other than the smooth flowing natural feel
For example, round shapes represent natural
Sharp edge shapes represent artificial
Oh I have that timeline
It’s not current canon, it’s an old concept that didn’t make it to the game. But its still interesting to read
rain olive
Thank you
cobalt lintel
Not sure if this has been discussed before, but I theorize that maybe the cosmetics had some sort of significance to the spirits (Wow! Anazing! Not obvious at all!), and helped differentiate them, like, the current travelling spirit is theorized to be some sort of a healer, right? What if the cape signifies so? And like, not hard to miss, but the vault spirits’ headdresses probably all showed their rank or smth
And also that each kingdom also had certain professions for the spirits that lived there?
Or characteristics
Except GW because GW probably used to be part of Vault before it became,, like that
Or maybe the spirits just liked mixing it up and looking different, either way
fiery condor
Hm you got a point there. I feel like the masks are the ones that shows the rank of the spirits, like Wasteland’s masks are like helmets that surrounds their head or sometimes the entire face, like a warrior. Vault masks look pretty ceremonial to me, even their dresses.
While Isle and Prairie are simple, imo. Like simple villagers living their simple lives.
abstract badger
The Hidden Forest shows some locals who know the ropes (bashful, lightseekers stance, etc), and other unfortunate souls who got stuck (crying). Maybe new inhabitants? They look like Prairie and Isle spirits
Perhaps on their way to the Valley
fiery condor
And yeah I do think the seasonal spirits are an entirely different, some of them play a special role.
What if the crab call spirit was like a nurse for injured warriors on their battle? ||And the spirits that will come next season came somewhere else to restore Wasteland?||
When you want to talk about the new season but it’s still in beta ):
abstract badger
She was a little ray of sunshine in such a desolate place
fiery condor
Hm maybe
I think once the new season comes out, my theory about it would be a full documentary by then
abstract badger
The Wasteland looks like a whole field of darkness that exists solely to either keep you away from the Vault, or prove your worthiness of entering.
Hence the warriors
fiery condor
I don’t think so
abstract badger
“Past the wasteland, the Vault of Knowledge awaits”
fiery condor
If you look at the Wasteland mural in the Vault elder cutscene, they were fighting something. To protect Vault.
In my opinion, that message when you enter Wasteland doesn’t mean the warriors are keeping you away from Vault.
abstract badger
No, the krill are
fiery condor
Ohhh
abstract badger
They were the danger that needed to be protected, but now they serve as a device within the game (from player’s view)
It’s kinda ironic
fiery condor
Krill’s origin is a big mystery
abstract badger
Yep
fiery condor
They could originate from corrupted big light creatures those were in Eden, based on the old Sky concepts
Or could be one of the consequences of the Elders’ doings. Aside from the big diamond destruction
mellow crater
Krills are the black dragons right ?
mellow crater
Well if you want to know more
fiery condor
Have you finished the game?
This channel contains spoilers and old concepts, be aware
mellow crater
Yeah no worries
fiery condor
Ok
mellow crater
So yea I was saying
fiery condor
Mhm
mellow crater
You should probably study their nature and their big eye
What are they looking for and why
What are their role and who gave them that purpose
fiery condor
Well they target us skykids, but I don’t think they really hunger for light, like what Sky’s description says
fiery condor
It’s like we’re the intruder
mellow crater
Everything feels oversized in this universe, it was clearly not made for the children of the light
fiery condor
It reminds me of black holes, consuming as much light as it can before it dissolves into black dwarfs
Forgive my knowledge about space and science I’m a bit bad at it
abstract badger
So, following some parts of the lore, Isle spirits serve to guide and welcome, being trailblazers into the new world. Prairie spirits have developed a simple community where everything is real nice. The Hidden Forest was the only path to The Valley, and people learned how to stay safe from the rain and help eachother. The Valley is the capital — they had competitive sports, gathering areas, and an arena. The Wasteland was where the spirits fought Krill to protect their archives, and the Vault explains the meaning of the constellations and is, quite frankly, a gold mine in terms of light-absorbing rock
fiery condor
Yes, and Forest created the industry, and probably the big diamond in Eden
Which caused pollution and toxic rain, draining our light later on
abstract badger
Makes sense
abstract badger
Hmm
fiery condor
Hm?
mellow crater
It looks like so
fiery condor
Imagine the Sky world, but there’s someone else following you silently, trying to stop you from your mission to save the spirits, would be a great other antagonist
mellow crater
league yasuo ptsd
Isle of Dawn cinematic is heavenly good
I never skip it
It's just too wow, the music gets me all the time
fiery condor
The color palette for isle is so pretty
I heard the music when you land on the isle temple changed
Gives me valley race music feels
mellow crater
I rly didn't like the gameplay of this area
fiery condor
Turtle shells and sliding on the sand
mellow crater
Probably cuz it's too rushed and you don't get enough time to walk around
fiery condor
It would be great though, in the intro of Sky, you don’t know your purpose and then a bird leads you to your first temple, when you slowly realize your purpose
abstract badger
They probably scrapped the original lore so the game could be enjoyed by people with different beliefs
And the Isle was pure story, so it must’ve been hard to replay
eternal totem
interesting lore: theyre camera shy and wouldnt let me take a photo with them
quartz mantle
Hahhaah
I think that spirit is a gardener... i mean the hat for the sun.... the flower shape cap
sly kestrel
Yea but in the end there was a body on the ground next to her and she attended to him....or her
Also nine of her memories show her planting
eternal totem
or tracking down a soldier
sly kestrel
Never thought of that one
eternal totem
i mean, is farming even possible in wasteland? with the state it is now
hushed steeple
for the dead bodies
eternal totem
right
hushed steeple
idk lol
eternal totem
anyhow, either shes wandering collecting light and found a half-buried body, or was tracking the body down to attend to it
hushed steeple
oh oof i thought she was burying the dead
eternal totem
that also could be a possibility
that works too
the true mystery of sky is the mysterious half-buried man in a memory of a woman who is in a jpop band that collects the light as a hobby
im aware
low isle
okay-
steel moth
I have a theory: The darkness is crab nests and the crabs are larvae stage krill. Change my mind
sly kestrel
when u change ur species*
—>
steel moth
who said that crabs area actually crabs and black dragons are actually dragons?