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the megabird is well too big for that
The giant light fish spooked the heck out of me ngl
I wonder why this big box was the only one open? I assume some big boi smashed into the box and ruined some of those floating diamond shapes which also caused a leak of water on its lower levels 
Also whats the mega bird?
I still really think the crack was an accident of a big creature
Prob a big crab
Megabird is kind of a ‘god’ in the old concept and lore of sky
Ooh
Tbh i still odnt really understand the whole lore
Like how did the whole darkness situation came to be
I think there’s concepts in the pins here
In the old concept of sky, the elders or the ‘prince’ created dark stone which corrupted them and some light creatures
Oh my bad
we can blame forest aunt for that though 
Lol
the lore’s really vague so there’s not much solid story
I’m looking everywhere in the pins
it was it’s just really far down
True plus its old but interesting 
Btw is sky going to come to android
Mk
yes it will ray
Yay
it’s in the works right now 
Its released rn in japan and singapore if I can remember?
yes they’ll be connected 


Anyways, back to lore
Yis

Haha
?
since we have a layer of light and bodies of dark
we’re basically what the elders wanted to achieve
though ofc they only used the darkness for more power 
:0
And i wonder how megabird would create us with their two enormous wings
we’re just trying to bring back the balance and save the ones who remain
they’re not really
a being
they’re thousands of stars
all with thoughts
Lmao i cant take the name megabird seriously
kinda like the cluster from steven universe ya know
It remonds me of big bird but bigger
Yeah its kinda big as you’d expect?
i like to think that megabird’s actual form is kind of beyond our ability to comprehend, and that the megabird’s outline in the credits is like a glimpse of them, or like their shadow
Like what if the ‘bird’ form of megabird is more than that
megabird is a she in the tomcepts so i’m mostly following it
unless we get some canon info from reika
megabird is beauty though
the bird form is just so the worshippers can have a better idea of a physical form of what they’re worshipping lmao
when really it’s just many thoughts connected to one
I’m kinda confused about king and prince mentioned in the old concepts. I’m assuming the king is the mysterious eden elder not sure about prince..
the prince and the king are the same person
we all suspected they were different but nah it makes more sense that they were the same
especially when we progress through the levels his statues pop up more
i’m so curious about why there are so many statues of the king
Maybe cuz hes the king
wasteland ancestors were obsessed with them or something i guess
none of the regular elders got so much attention
Hes the king
yeah
Ye
i’m just thinking they seem particularly obsessed with the king
or the king was self-obsessed and made them make those statues...
i just want to know more about the king. what they were like, how they interacted with the ancestors
I think in the cutscene after you meditate in the vault temple you can see the king in the “constellation” of Eden. And if it isn’t him it’s someone, because the other area’s have their elders but there is no elder for Eden...
So it makes me wonder if they aren’t going to bring the concept of him back in some way
story heavy season would be 

Sadly they removed the king
Back in those concepts, those giant “statues” at wasteland that looked like the king were actually turrets. Wasteland was a huge fortress so it makes sense why they have them
And the dude in the eden crown constellation, I have no idea. It’s jus a dude holding a ball and I asked reika who it was but then she was like
“It’s me, I’m the man”
Lol reika will never tell you anything concrete
I also don’t think the statues in wasteland are turrets
I used to think that too
Maybe the whole king mural and friend constellation was just a reference to the old king concept
There’s a lot of good things in the concept art but not everything is in the game and shouldn’t be taken at face value
Oh I didn’t say it was in the current game I jus meant that the concepts said they were turrets
Bold of you to assume every theory isn’t cannon in some way Seraph
But it’d be cool if it is a nod to the old concepts
what if it came to life April first
Concepts are concepts
Some are turrets some are statues some are turrets and statues
It’s jus ideas
Modern game wise, idk what they are since the king is removed now
The king is not in the game but that doesn’t mean that there are no longer references to the king at all in the game
Someone had to rule the kingdom
Something just happened to him which is why we never see him physically
But....she said he’s removed 😕
During the live-streams they said there used to be an eden elder but there is nothing left to save
He was removed from existence
But he still existed
No like we actually asked her in the chat
He’s gone
That’s why I’m so confused about the lore here
So I guess he’s the one we see at the end of the vault cutscene?
I don’t think you should believe everything reika says bc she jokes around a lot ghdjsksk they’ve said it a lot in other places that there WAS an eden elder that existed at one point
I don’t think ash will say much either
Well sometimes Reika is serious
When she’s in serious mode
We’ll interview her

If the king rlly is in the game that would make a lot more sense. And I had would have a 10000 more theories
Also I’m really tempted to call you serendipity
What rlly does confuse me is the friend constellation and mural
I know sky likes to add old concept references but having this much is kinda suspicious.....
Who ran the castle
Why would eden even exist if there was no king to rule
The king is like a wd gaster situation imo
Yeah that’s what I’m saying, he existed in the past, something happened and now he is gone even in death
When they said there’s nothing left to save it’s like what!!! What does that mean!!!
What happened to this dude
the way they said it is so ominous lol.... like we save sky kids in eden and spirits but it’d be interesting to interpret their words as ‘the king has fallen into such darkness that he’s beyond redemption’ tho yeah, prob deleted from all existence
but lore thirst 
I don’t think they would just say that to say that
Everything in this game is well thought out and carefully planned, even if they don’t tell us what it means
It really is just like undertale 
yeah definitely agree with the ambiguousness... tho if they were straight up front about lore this channel would die
Just because I have no more theories to work on imma believe u
Maybe the king is in the game
ambiguousness a curse and blessing 
Like he used to be a part of the kingdom at some point
Yeah that’s what I’ve been trying to say!
He’s gone Now
But before we existed, before the incident
He was there
What I was told was that he was completely scraped from the game
Not death wise but game mechanic wise
But
Idk u could be right
Is it alright if I post a screenshot in here? Because I think it would technically be a spoiler
Eden spoiler?
If it’s not relating to lore discussion post it in #screenshots-and-videos with a spoiler tag
Eden spoiler
It’s related to the current discussion
Then sure!
Okay, so this is at the very end of the vault cutscene. This has to be the king, right? Even if he’s not currently alive, I don’t know who else it could be, and he seems to have some kind of crown
Yes that’s what we are lead to believe
I think that’s the eden mountain in the bg too!
Along with the statues of him in the wasteland, like something had to happen because to some extent he’s still an influence on his kingdom
Yeah, it’s the Eden constellation so it would make sense
Darkstone is removed
Darkstone is in eden
And it’s not a power diamond so
The red rocks you see everywhere are darkstone
Well not the darkstone in the concepts
Yeh it’s not exactly what it looks like in concept but it’s still darkstone
Darkstone is referred to a lot of different things
Exactly! I kind of thought it could be the large power Crystal at the end, and since he was much larger than any sky kid I wonder if it isn’t explaining his death
But even if it was darkstone
Darkstone is jagged or sharp edged, this looks like a ball
I think the red rocks you see in eden are from the large power diamond
The power diamond is cracked and broken
Yea I always thought they were shattered pieces of it
Figuratively speaking, I mean. Like he tried to become powerful but he was greedy and it lead to the downfall of his race (and his death)
Not jus him, I think the whole kingdom was greedy for power
But it’s shaped like a ball, and there isn’t anything ball like in Eden..maybe it’s a large light orb?
Which would play into how dark and stormy Eden is
He definitely is-
He will eat the ball
That’s what I was thinking ^ 

True true
I jus thought it was some sort of light or power
And I found it strange bc it seemed like actual light, actual power
Not the artificial power that led to their downfall
I wonder if they’re tasty
I am wondering what those towers on either side of him are supposed to be
I think it’s like the things you see in eden
The large spikes
When you get to the top
Eden has a lot of those spike spines
I figured it was an architecture thing
With enough skill, u can actually land on some of them
You’re probably right I’ll have to remember that on my next run
Speaking of eden
I thought I’d show this, the orbit statues are actually in the storm
a.. quick question
does magabird ever appear in the game?
cuz I've seen it mentioned many times
thank u 😄
it doesn’t really make sense lore wise, but the king-mural looks like it’s referencing the apple of eden, if you know what i mean.
like he’s eating an apple of eden, committing original sin and all that
that wouldn’t literally be it in lore tho obviously
Hey people: We always theorize about krills-they're manmade, they were actually light creatures etc. But what about crabs?
It's just a random theory that came to my mind:Crabs were actually machines made by wasteland people, if we think of wasteland as a diamond production site. Another theory told is forest and wasteland were connected to trade diamonds etc. That explains how forest has some crabs too. And if crabs were machines, in the 'war', wasteland people may've used them to hurt weak ones of the other side. Crabs don't do anything to krills even if they touch the ground(yeah I know they fly but when we fly too they do charge at us). They may've set them to charge if they saw anyone, and attack with full power. Because of the 'oil', they are weak against deep calls.
This just brings one question..
How are they edible?
We see the traveling spirit of belonging father brought to the wasteland a campfire with three crabs cooking over- implying they are edible.
If they were machines, how are they still edible? Is edible substance also shoved in?
Maybe they’re portable protein
Oh sorry for that hole lol never got that spirit was a newbie moth then
So edit to clear the hole... re-read when I'm done editing
Or wait
Just a new theory: Crabs are made by Wasteland during the days of war. They were man made food. Undermining 'forest and wasteland were connected', wasteland helped both sides we said because of the shield having sun and spear having diamond right? Wasteland elder changed sides. Forest was diamond, when wasteland was also diamond, wasteland made those crabs as a kind of meal. When wasteland changed sides, the land broke apart from forest. Because wasteland stopped giving crabs to forest, the crabs in forest nearly became extinct. After the war, when the 'oil' appeared, the crabs got affected and charged against everyone, especially the ones tried to eat them. And again like the last theory, that's why they're weak against deep calls. That was how only wasteland caught them while the war.
It may just be a bad theory because I wasnt that into the lore...
Maybe darkness breathed life into passed crabs of life?
All bigger sky creatures of light are sea creatures.
Manta rays and coelacanth-like creatures and even the krill like dark dragons.
Would make sense crabs too were once of these creatures but then turned darkness.
Maybe..
I have completed all constellations ages ago.. but .. I noticed this in valley...
Is there a new spirit hiding somewhere?!
Ugh I don't know... maybe you have to revisit the temple?
that’s just the spirit you need to relive for the quest
Odd
Crabs r probably butterflies but after diamond production squad ™ go slurp and slurp light out of the butterfly then is crab . Tl;Dr: crab are dead butterflies
well that doesn’t make even more sense lmao
pretty sure tgc said all the creatures are natural
They said there was always dark and light in the world, nothing created darkness, it was something that was always there
I always thought crabs were always dark
i think in a livestream they said mantas just sort of form like that. specifically, the uber-mantas in prairie.
they form from the clouds ye
What is this symbol on the Forest temple door? 
It is the mask of the forest elder
From early concepts
The prarie temple also has the early concepts mask above the door
ooh
Guys I think I found out why moths are called moths
Moths like light and you need light in this game to do anything
Moths are jus nicknames we gave beginners because of their brown capes and clumsy flight
And....sorry I’m not the skybot 😕
what is a moth
A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!
there that's what i was trying to do
woahh I didn’t kno u could do that
do what
The sky bot thingy
So someone was talking about the crabs being food and I started laughing really loud. Now I’m thinking of what types of food the crabs would be made to and instead of food like soups or something, I went to the good old fashioned
DO HUMANS EXIST IN SKY?
I.... don’t think so??
idk if the ancestors are human but i think not
no they aren’t
but they’ve got human emotions and mentality compared to sky kids
i guess that just leaves theories that are too pointless to mean anything, like earth exists in the same universe but really far away
yep
We got new switch and android players coming and I think they’re gonna want straight lore just like we did
It’s gonna be disappointing having to tell them that we rlly don’t have anything 😕
Just theories 😔
i like the lore being so open to interpretation. if we had the answers i'd get bored instantly 
You say that but I know you still want them badly 

Aha! new theory that is equally as right and wrong and confusing as all the other ones
Theorizing was fun at first until the end of the day u realize u speculated everything and looked at every concept art and live-stream and ur still like “idk anything about the story”
That’s exactly what I’m talking about lol
But
So, judging from the end of eden every living sentient thing comes from this giant source of ball light
That for whatever reason is in space and calls all the dead spirits of things when it dies
EXCEPT for our ancestors
Who have to be returned manually
Which is weird
As everything that gets called back can fly
So maybe
They got their wings taken away by this big disaster
That happened
So they couldn’t fly back
And that’s where we come in
It seems like as though, before this big disaster happened that resulted in or had some connection to the war in golden Wasteland, and the giant hurling storm in Eden, our ancestor’s spirits were able to return to the light by themselves
But afterwards they lost their wings
And fell, evident from the beginning cinematic
But then settled
In valley and prairie and forest
Wait
I take the whole war thing back
Let me just solidify a timeline
That makes sense
And isn’t all timey wimey wibbly wobbly
Before all of these events, there were our great ancestors living in the sky and the very stars themselves, ruled by a single Monarch
But then some great disaster happens
Something of their own doing
That results in the storm and the shattering of Eden
Throwing our ancestors down below
Perhaps they got too greedy with the light and tried to manipulate it in some ways? Some sort of metaphor to pollution, global warming etc.
Anyways
They all fell and settled in 4 different places
They landed in isle, built boats and started traveling
Then they built homes in the prairie and learned to harness the light by shaping it in small ways
Such as butterflies or fireworks or controlling birds
And then they settled further in the forest
Where they began to ponder how to get home
And this wanting corrupted them
The forest elder, in her frustration creates a new device
Or rather a smaller version, of the levitating crystal at the heart of the storm
Think of it as when iron man figures out how to make the ark reactor smaller
It’s great and all but backfires in the wrong hands
Anyways they become consumed with trying to reclaiming their homeland and something else happens that results in the krill
Everywhere that they’ve taken light or shaped it, there are remnants of darkness
The only places where they haven’t and where there are no plants or crabs is isle
It’s seems their greed to return home ended up sucking up a lot of the light and corrupting many of these creatures
Just resources right?
Well what bigger resource than a sky whale
Hunted and extracted for light to near extinction, for all but one
Their skeletons corrupting and mutating, becoming the krill
All of this happening while they distract themselves in entertainment, oblivious to what the elders are doing behind closed doors
That’s what valley is
Like in Ancient Rome when the emperors would put on great dazzling shows in the arena
To district from the political atmosphere
And it’s all for naught
The krill overwhelm, they seize and invade the now barren and industrialized dessert land of the golden wasteland
And to survive they must fight
A Great War
That’s won
Actually hmm
Maybe not seeing as how there’s dozens still left
They lose the war, and fail to wipe out the infestation
In a last ditch attempt to save their species the last great warrior ancestor holds them off while his people escape behind him
Doors closed forever, until now
And they learn from this
Using the remaining levitating crystals they build a library of knowledge
Or rather memories
And become scholars
Leaving behind knowledge for any that would come upon the library
Yet they are dying
Everywhere you go there are stars scattered
The remnant spirits of children
Dying out throughout this saga
Only 7
In the vault
And the last 7 they will be
As all our ancestors die out
But it’s not over yet !
For some strange reason, the will of the monarch has reached out across all these years, decades, centuries, millennia, and for the first time in a long time
A child of light has been born
Tasked with reliving the stories and memories of its ancestors
And returning them to the light
Hmm plot hole with the children actually 🤔
I’m thinking either those kids were already dead at the beginning of the first disaster
But that wouldn’t make sense since their spirits are so far
There’s a more sinister theory I could think of
I’m loving this so far 
Which is, the children were in fact dying but due to the fact that they were all sent by their people into the storm
All the children of each generation of each place
And that’s why their spirits return back to only those places
But that’s kinda weird @_@
Idk
You guys figure it out 😂 I’m going to sleep
Night!
I think the children sacrificed themselves in Eden, maybe to defend against the corrupted King or something, and their spirits are the winged light and that’s why you have to return them
But I legit just thought of that on my last Eden run
I don’t mean to be that guy but
The ancestors (elders) came wayyy before the disaster and they fell from the sky. They are the ones that helped the people on the ground build their civilization and they are an entirely different race than the people on the ground. And the skykids came after the disaster of the civilization to bring back the elders and restore them back their original home. The ancestors didn’t start their life on the ground. But anyways u actually got some stuff on point.....and sadly the king is no longer in the game
- everything was the megabird
- stuff got created
- ancestors got created
- Some ancestors returned to the megabird
- Stuff got messed up and some ancestors didn't return
- megabird got sad and created children to guide ancestors home
Think that about wraps it up
Not gonna lie that does kinda sum things up
Ah yes
did the person who made the theory say it was only in wasteland or was it also in eden?
My old friend
Sundog clan 4 lyf
I did field research on spears and stuff
Also yes there is the sun shield in eden
Yep, only the sundog ones though if I recall
1 building and there’s a transition in the middle so it seems like 2 but there’s only one
Ahh there it is
There’s also duel swords on the left
One up against the far left wall (broken) and one on back wall to the right of the door
ooooo
I'll see if I have a screenshot
idk why but it looks larger than the ones at battlefield
and yet i’ve been blind for the past 25 eden runs xD
Immediate behind me on the wall is the broken one
oh i see the broken one
😂😂
I spend way too much time in Eden than is considered healthy, and I don't feel like I've scratched the surface on some oob secrets in there
Example, only found the static lightning streak a few weeks back
Looks like a constellation
M yes okay,, theory on realm dynamics,,,
A while back my friend pointed out the similarities between wastelands broken temple (the area before graveyard) and the forest temple.
The forest temple was referred to in concepts as a “diamond factory” and as wasteland is heavily industrialized 👀
Forest and Wasteland seem to be the big industrial producers of the realms while Isle and Prairie are the natural producers. Valley is likely the capital (since Eden was likely closed per the opening of the game, the elders and spirits being cast away by what is presumed to be something similar to the “king” or Edens Elder who held he highest power) and vault was the mega library hahaaaa
this ran from GW/forest to all of them oops
OK BUT BASICALLY, Forest and Wasteland were likely heavily allied and were partners in providing diamonds/power. As Forest made the mechanism that we see in its temple, it may have been expanded to the Wasteland to provide power for it as well ( they are both darker realms and can’t rely on natural light as a power source)
Further on Prairie and Isle were large parts in collecting and sharing natural light such as the birds and butterflies. Valley seems to be mostly a consumer, no indication of gathering or work at all other than activities such as sports and races.
Im half asleep so if this doesn’t make sense I’m sorry I can clarify in the waking hours
Nononono it does make sense
Valley used the technology made from the artificial diamonds and thrived from it. Prairie’s job was to send pots of light using their boats to send to forest. Prairie also supported the light and favored creatures and connection to the organic flame instead of artificial flame. But anyways, prairie sent light pots using their boats and forest used those pots and combined them organic material to form power diamonds
Prairie pot + organic material=
Power diamond 💎
Or as concepts call it
Artificial stars
@maiden glen nice theory, add in some boats and pots too (check out the lore walls in the start of forest where the boats are docked)
I know about the murals haha, I put together a whole album of them all. i was moreso focusing on overarching relationships and not with the boats and pots specifics but yes those too uwu
Flying boats that actually work please
Do you guys think the big vortex/wind spiral was always there in wasteland? Could it have used to have been a gentle decent into a city fortress? 🤔
i believe that the social areas were put there for us. they werent there
I think that was after the corruption of the world
i think the vortex was there. like imagine the social area gone and its just a vortex
Yes well excluding that, if they were just natural parts of the realms,
Yea but we if it was always there, wasteland would be excluded from the other realms
They would be stuck there
They had to have some sort of connection to the other realms
Hmmm maybe they had help from mr whale before
so many questions
Idek how vortex’s are formed
Sobs., brain hurt
@maiden glen there's still the invisible flying boat in the glitch under prairie
Yes I know that one
Oh that’s leftover from beta
I know a lot of things :)
eyes hurt
Rai sees all 👁️
rai sun god
Dont expose me Joshur
Anddddd the wave emote cutscene shows him saying hi to a dude on a flying boat
Yes I think the flying boats were peimary travel for the spirits who couldnt fly themselves
Primary*
At least not on the ground/ lower levels
Space is a different story coughs
Well he wasn’t traveling tho, he was delivering pots
But yea u right, they could’ve used flying boats for transportation
Boats are main travel method for every realm it seems. If you look at the GW shipwreck
man that boats big
Hmm not likely but it could have
then it was krilled down
Hinestly yea
thing is we dont see some diamond source for that boat lol
it coulda floated on water for all we know. i think we all just assumed it did bc it looks like a boat from irl
There’s the one krill,, and all those graves man,,,
spirit had it rough mdudes
Also it seemed to be a shipment boat
Those gold diamond thingies are needed for the diamond press. It goes on the very top and since there’s a diamond press for wasteland, it makes sense why it’s there
Mhm mhm
yeah
some things seem to just magically float in sky. like the islands in bird nest
I think the shipwreck area could have easily been a drop point or take of for materials
weird thing about the shipwreck area is that theres no proper exit or entrance to the place
They can go out to sea
thy were probably supposed to go around
But thats abt it
yeah
Well keep in mind everything is covered in sand
maybe that spot was for collecting supplies (through pipes) but not people
i mean theres some structure but they seem go be broken turrets so. just for defensive measures
Like the cities in Valley 
possibly
oh right
i forgot theres the entrance through that one ground hole by the krills
Yeb
Shipwreck has lots of entrances lol
MMM yea
Maybe that was a coffin boat
ah yes
Salute emote had one
the dude died too so
The one in prairie caverns too
LOL
OMG U RIGHT, PRAIRE DOES HAVE THAT BOAT
IT DO
THOUGH, It was shown in the wave cutscene they stand on the smaller boats meant for good movement,, so mayhaps
where
*product movement
“just a stray thought i—“
Finish ur sentence sir
Uh the one in the tunnel of the prairie caverns,, with the candles on it
I forget but its the one past spooky boogy man
Well there’s water in the way and there’s heavy pots nearby, must’ve been a pain if they DIDNT have a boat
Yeb
And that one in the picture is meant for flight too, it has the fins things on the side
A lot of boats have fins on the side
i hav. no thought. head wmpty
The ones meant for flight seem to have the fins moreso than the ones on the water like in prairies caverns
And the whole timeline of sky and their civilization goes a long time so it’s not surprising that they would make different models for boats
Welcome to the Sky lore channel: Ginsy Screaming and detailed boat analysis at your fingertips
Also the ppl can’t jus run everywhere
All the realms have clouds in the way or have high places and buildings only accessible to flight....so flying boats didnt seem like a bad idea
yes
i dont think spirits were able to fly
i mean, im sure they were physical before they died
ok that proves nothing
but yknow
why’d u mention them being physical....
do we have an album dedicated to documenting all the boats in the game?
No but I’m pretty sure ginsy screenshot every boat in the game
Or was that someone else....
I forgot but someone has em all
idk i was like “well they were probably physical before they died so they probably couldnt fly”
like i was thinking of the spirits as humans like us
Don't forget about the Isle buried boats
then i remember sky kids are physical and they can fly
so
And the 3 orb boat
Did u jus combine maybe and perhaps into one word 😂
Mayhaps

Perbe
I love it
did the boat album also include the well hidden boats in forest and wasteland?
Now I'm thinking of "the boat album" like the "white album" of the Beatles
It's a classic, but hard to find
where is it
was it posted here
if we cant find it im willing to rerun every realm and pic all the boats
Even if u did find them and screenshot em all
Are u guys making a theory or.....
Hmmmm a building
Why are there logs in oob Eden?
The first area
You can see it after piggy rocket or spinning upwards
That building looks like the building you enter it to see the eden diamond used to be small. Not sure though since I wasn’t in sky that long enough to see old Eden.
Don’t if anyone asked that but...
We gather children of light to after put them in the statues of Eden, right? And when we die, we become one of those statues who go get a child of light. But then, when we get to Orbit, we become normal sky kids and the others we saved doesn’t. Isn’t that strange?
I don't think we become a statue. We straight up die
But the statues are dead people too
what I meant is that we don't get petrified in stone. we go straight to rebirth
I know, but the process is kind of the same like the others, we see them in Orbit too
I think there is an ongoing debate (not sure if there was a definite answer to it) about whether we are simply reliving memories and the events of the game through the spirits or actively playing a role, which could be a reason why we're different
it could also just be like a "chosen one" storyline
I was just theorizing
it is pretty interesting. I hadn't really thought about it before
I believe there was some theorizing that the children in Eden were somewhat corrupted, which is what turned them to stone
that's why you had to return the light to them
So many theories...
yeah
this doc (it's in pins) is pretty much the canon lore we have https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit
it's not that much, but it's pretty cool
Yeah, it is cool
I'm currently reading the post about beta Eden, and apparently the child statues used to have friend names above them
you also used to be impaled by blue rocks
at death
It wasn’t green rocks once?
bluish-green, maybe
Turquoise?
probably
Personally I like to think that the kids in eden are early skykids the megabird created.. And they had a slightly different mission, theirs was to attempt to restore the realms after eden fall out (they built social spaces, put up graves/spirit stones). And the active skykids today are perfected and don't need as much assistance to be reborn and go into orbit.
heyy that was my idea too...
Cuz I noticed the skykids we save are a bit bigger than our race of skykids
ayyyy!! 
She was like
“Welp, that didn’t work, I guess I’ll send more kids”
“happy birthday children, now go save my interns and management
“
child slavery
We could theorize on that :p
But I think I saw someone answer it once...
I would personally theorize for fun that they could have been constellations from the past? :p
My friend told me used to activate mini games back in beta, you would sit down an cosmic animal would appear, like a bird or turtle even and you would have to collect light shards
Yep, in prairie on the manta looking constellation if you sit in the middle circle at just the right place, music will play and shards activate for a very short period
Yo, does anyone know the elders' names? My friend wants to know and eh
Yupp those are leftover from beta, some of them u can sit near them and u can still hear the bell sound effect of activating it
Hehe,,, I got blown off in Eden today on my quest for That One Star and I, found the boat and a pathway.
Really interesting
It makes me want to know what Eden was like before the Fall yknow 
The great album of boat pics starts
@stark marten there's also the manta one in prairie Bell towers, and a more jellyfish looking one on the last tower of forests broken bridge.
I have the feeling they were for summoning or honoring the creatures, as with the manta one in prairie, once you ring the 3 bells and the manta constellation stone lights up, the manta appear.
There's also a bit of an Easter egg (or rather not fully removed functionality) that sitting on these (certainly the birds nests, bell towers manta and caves one) with over a certain number of players with you, you hear chimes (like when you sit at the elder temples) and eventually smoke appears and some fragments of light appear. Previously (before live launch), collecting these made a creature appear, and you would get a candle, but now it does nothing.
The same happens in the forest temple on a stone to the right on the ground floor, in an alcove,which used to open the doors, again pre-global live stuff.
I’m currently drawing out the basic paths of all the areas to see if the level of where they are correlate to environment
Like the deeper it goes the sandier it gets while life occurs more on the top
And it’s darker and gloomier under the clouds
So I’ve concluded this.
Civilization happens above the clouds. The Prairie and the Valley are above for example. The Valley is the highest peak and therefore has the most civilians. Proven by all the buildings. It is also the coldest as ice and snow are its terrain. The isle is in the middle for clouds to appear but things are below them. The forest is under the clouds, yet it is not too deep it just rains. However, this rain makes it hard to live and therefore buildings of attempts are crumbling to the environment. Yet it can be inferred it was once part of the prairie for how close and similar the grassy terrain is and the prairie monument directly connecting to the forest. The deeper in the clouds is the wasteland. We can see through the before hub inner clouds and some OOB that valley buildings are at its top. Possibly meaning the clouds too shifted and blocked this area. Yet deeper.. and deeper.. we get the golden wasteland. An odd name for something so.. not golden. It’s sandy and polluted- destroyed. And most of all impossible to live in. Yet it’s building looks like a fort.. an area surrounding a castle.
Yet the vault is weird. It’s so clean and perfect in such a place. Yet it’s newest place implies it’s possible true destruction with the walls breaking off.. is this galaxy like place just an illusion? In a sense it’s somewhat like the below basement of a castle. Or an elevator. With next stop being what was eden. The highest peak. However it’s in utter shambles due to a, b, and c.
But as it was highest peak, it was where the castle lays. Buildings and boats are seen everywhere- people of sky must of inhabited it at some point. Plus, in all of eden before getting shattered.. there are no clouds.
I’d like to think that the ||statues are the past sky kids that died and you give them light to revive them so they can rebirth. And eventually someone comes along and does the same for you. It’s an endless cycle and it makes sense since there are always people doing eden so the rebirth time wouldn’t be to long lol||
How to make a big crystal:
Add 2 teaspoons of light from the trees , 2 teaspoons of butterflies juice from prairie, mix it, put it under the press and there u go, big blue crystal.
Here’s another view of it
Yep
butterfly juice i-
Could the crystal in Eden bethe corrupted king showed in the concept art? 👀
Well the pots carry light that is used for power diamonds and since we seen the praire elder put butterflies in the pots and since some of the spirits collected butterflies....I think we have to assume that they did slaughter the butterflies for their power diamonds
His head has almost the same shape of the crystal
Well Ik it’s just a theory but a lot of us like to believe the giant crystal is a huge power diamond gone wrong. The spirit’s greed for unlimited power and technology gone too far and they decided to build the giant city of Eden powered by the huge diamond. And then the eden explosion happened causing all the destruction and now there’s an endless storm
Yeah
Oh that’s an old concept, there was idea that the king would be on top of the storm all angry and throwing spears at you, and then u would have to avoid giant creatures raining darkness
But now we just have wind
Cuz that happened long time ago
Maybe the crystal is not so powerful as it used to
The king and the power diamond are 2 different things....
I feel like the king got corrupted and started stacking everyone so the elders try to take his power away by using dark (red) crystal on him but it didn’t work so the king broke thru shattering the red materials creating the storm
I think u should look at this. The king and the idea of that storm is an old scrapped idea of this timeline
Yeah I’ve red that
Well.....sadly the king isn’t in game anymore
What if a developer said it 👀
And like I said that’s a scrapped idea, for our current story had that timeline that would be awesome
But it’s not sadly
The game still refers to a big bird
Same in the timeline
I’m the time line there is a pic of the bird similar to what we can see in the orb and in the entrance to the office
They even mention flying boats
And it makes me think that is part of the arc
WOAH WOAH WOAH I NEVER SEEN THAT PART OF EDEN BEFORE
And as it’s shown in the pic The arc is below the Highesr point of Eden
imma try to get a better pic
This timeline makes a lot of sense
It looks like an Arc !
ark*
It’s all coming together
You know how when you die you see the ruins of castles and stuff
What if that’s the ruins of the arc
it’s howl’s moving castle
(from old beta, pic from ShiraChesire’s album)
That’s from beta
Ohhh that fortress was referring to golden wasteland
The “warrior” elder
He built that whole thing consisting of turrets and weapons to defend off another creature attack
right here’s the ruined version from live
from that pic it looks like the eden castle was ripped off of the land
gonna see if i can explore orbit. a kind player showed be a rough drawing on how to explore out of bounds and hopefully i can recreate if
it
i like the idea that the power diamond thing in the eye of eden is the king’s crown (but gone haywire)
But maybe it’s the king itself like the other spirits are trapped in a dark orb
did you notice that?
Every spirit we find around the kingdom have a dark orb inside
i knew the spirits were in dark orbs
didn’t occur to me that the king could be too. that’s a cool idea
They could be these dark stones
i’m starting to think the two types of shields were for dividing spirits according to their task
And there is the king
Also if you look at concept art for the king there’s a small child in the crown thing
This is a really cool backstory omg
There’s more
These are the krills we see now in Eden
And I think this refers to the birds we see across the kingdom heading to Eden
The migration
we sky kids are the new descendants blessed with wings by the Megabird cuz the last generation were not able to fly by their own but making use of their technology (floating boats) and since those method of transportation are destroyed, we need wings to move around . Also that’s why we have to recolector all those winged lights( the lost souls).
The big bird sent us to bring the lost souls back
And here we can see the elder from isle guiding us
I need to drink less coffee
Was some of this in the very start of the game? I can’t remember it’s been so long..
i just did eden and i wanna share some nifty pictures i took
i noticed that the red scarves are usually put as a marker, kinda like if you’re hiking and your putting something on a tree or whatever to indicate that you’ve been there (?)
(last pic from building in the first area)
the scarves are like guides..?
Yeah
Wonder if those stoned kids with blue stones are a reference to those who played sky: light awaits
Since the red stone ( currently in the game) used to be blue ish
yeah
hidden details. birds flying to a pipe
theres this hatch thing on the big pipe and i noticed red. looked cool
Looks like an eye of a krill
broken statue front of the tunnel befor stormlock
there wasnt a pair. looks like the same one in stormlock
entrance of the tunnel and a structure in eden are the same structures but ones bigger
a close up of the broken vault shrines
Looks like an A for Ark 👀 😝
the door detail at the krill cutscene looks similar to the isle temple door
mhm
I still don’t understand that broken vault shrines
damn discord still doesnt fix Videos ™
is battlepants' statue still cracked (like it normally is) there, or is it always smooth at the back?
i think it suggests that eden’s design influenced all architecture in the realms
all that geometric patterns and designs
Cuz it feels like if In vault we had a vision and went to the path that’s why we see the whole tower with no damage
jaggy
pointie
i’d love to be impaled on top of that lmao
hmm ok hold up
i think the vault shrine was the original memorial of all the elders
i still like my idea that most of the stuff in vault wasn't real, it was something like a dream, and the vault statues seen on the way to orbit are the 'real' statues
i was testing out the thjng someone said here where if you honk it follows the song, and it’s true! thats so cool
ooooooo
aurora is ethereal. i’d believe it
it’s like how human kids love to follow along when they hear someone sing
also the sound of the massive gate in orbit to go home reaallyy reminds me of the sound of the isle portal at home
ikr
dusts hands welp thats all of my pic spam

it was very fun!! though i wish ans and muse were with me to marvel at the spiky city together
white diamond
White piece of rock.
shiny boi rock
King’s soul container whity boi
moth trap 😔
portal looking thing
nah yall it’s probably the king’s dead manta collection
wonk square
they saw diamon and went **b o n k **
this is starting to look like a rap
oreo's broken chew toy
HSBCND
lick the marble
lick the shiny
b o n k
Anyways, this is not really lore related but it’s something that’s been going on in my mind
Remember the scene after we die we’re sent to this sort of void where we’re about to hug shiny boi?
I think of it like this part is not really part of the life and death concept that sky is all about, it’s about the hidden meaning it tells us. That scene when we’re about to hug shiny boi, it means that we must accept who we are or find our true selves, imo. The hug really hit me—
I’ve always wondered why the Wasteland Elder’s statue is the only cracked one at the vaults summit 🤔
Did something happen to them?
Or is the statue cracked just because

He got sliced in two by a krill. Thats why
oh heck he did?
Dunno lol
maybe he did a bad thing
Imo it's cracked because he switched sides in the war and was shunned for it so elders or emote spirits cracked it because they were a n g r y
Wait what if thw child we meet with after we run out of stars is actually thw king(prince) who takes up upward
We become one with him and both souls are released form the storm
Well I never seen that concept pic before so u may be right
The light in front of him is us after we run out of winged light(in the game represented as a blue spirit)
Didn’t someone say somewhere that the king was beyond saving?
And the lights behind him are the bois we shared the light with before that area and fly away with us as is shown in thw cutscene after we hug the boi
He’s got the crystal shaped head
And look the pics of him, while holding hand with you he has a King‘s crystal shaped head not a corrupted King’s head as is it is contrasted in this pic
😩
It makes so much sens e
In this pic we can see the king holding the dark crystal while being trapped under the storm or darkness sorrouding him. On his sides we see 6 pillars thwt represent the 6 elders we see in the game. Above them u can see like wind blowing which may represent the storm itself powered by the elders’ crystals. . At the bottom of the pic we see 18 monkey looking statues wich are the same amount of shrines we see in the tunnel before last area in Eden. Also, you can see there are lines connecting the shrines and lines connectiong the elders kinda representing How they holding or had trapped the king under the storm.
And maybe those shrines represent those who helped and sacrificed their lives
Makes sense to me
In fact, if u go oob in eden, u can see a frozen lightning
could be from, this bad boi 👀😝
Share!
I know the timeline is amazing and trust me I rlly do love that thing but remember, it’s not the exact story we have currently...
Sec in getiing the pics lol
According to the storiline ancients and creatures workshiped fire together
Untill they found thw dark matter used to craft crystals
They overused the dark matter with all their creations
The light creatures were atracted to the dark stones to they atacked the ancients
These creatures
that we can see flying around bosts in a previous pic
They weren’t attracted to it, they were against it, it’s a forbidden material and the creatures supported the megabird, so that’s why they attacked
After the first attack or we dont know how many there were, they built a fortress (wasteland) there cuz thats were most of the crystals were crafted which held a huge amount of dark matter that atracked thw creatures
The masacre in wasteland
According to this pics the creatures were not allowed passed wasteland fortress
But i beleve the edge of the city is right where u pass from valley to wasteland
And the fortress was built to protect their precious crystals storaged in ”vault”
They aren’t tomcepts
Vault isn’t protecting crystals, they’re keeping them, the lanterns are filled with memories and knowledge of the past
The fortress was made to defend another creature attack
There is enough crystal there to atrac the creatures
did i seriously just wake up at 2 am to see someone proving a point and not theorising 
and
They aren’t attracted to it....they are jus against the dark stone so that’s why they attacked the ancestors
And wow u woke up at 2 am to check the lore chat?
They might have gotten corrupted by the dwrk material as well
no i woke up by myself but i came online looking for stuff to read
instead i see someone’s consumed themselves into the tomcepts so much they’re not even theorising at this point.
And i doubt the king , already being corrupted, decided to build a fortress to save ”memories” but the most valuable currwncy they had
They gone into extinction
The eden explosion caused all the destruction
That’s why they made the vault, to pass everything on and leave all their current knowledge and memories
And the fortress was to defend off the creatures of light
it’s like how stuff works in real life since we have ways of storing important/classified information like perhaps a vault
Wow I sound like a nerd
But what I rlly wanna say is that these are early ideas that aren’t in the current game story. If they were, I don’t even think this channel would’ve been made. They want us to theorize and figure out the story, they won’t give us an easy timeline like that
lmao
whereis he finding these pics
even this place is like a type of vault for storing information
Tomcepts
in the depths of tomcepts and possibly other people
well they is a safer pronoun
They won’t tell me
oh theyre all in the tomcepts
I don’t remember seeing them....
i need to look at the site more lol
Wow I must be blind blind
jay’s gone blind blind which is beyond the capacity of blind
our lore hunting skills... are rusting
indeed indeed
I think the creatures atacked cuz the fire in them were extracted turning them into krills or dark creatures
im going to hunt for all of the boats im the realm and make an album. today. i will do it today 
maybe we’ll have to look at this from a more world history perspective? i already realised sky’s lore seems to be a mix of several different things from past concepts in real life lmao
Yea some similarities are in the timeline
Lyst qe already found the King the the actual game
i just thought this was a game about growing up ;3;
despite the fantasy elements it’s quite similar to early ancient civilisations so maybe it’s time to go back to learning history in school
“unnatural death leaves a corpse”
lmao i wish pope
so all the skeletons we see ingame were all killed
How about we just bribe the devs to give us a lore book
if they died of natural causes they wouldnt leave a corpse
the” graveyard” was the place were they ded whales were sent to
I’ll bribe them with friendship
slides devs 1.42 candles so where’s the lore book
i’d rather bribe for oreo to get teeth back
@smoky galleon sea turtle skeletons were used as well
And the graveyard is a variety of creatures
Well any kind of light creature just lihgt butterflies from prairie
reika basically said it to us since she designed those and also the weapons at battlefield despite her fear of the area lmao
How about we snatch another tomcept album
i need another
Or.....we jus snatch Tom Zhao and interview him until we are satisfied
i dont think keeping him hostage would give answers—
maybe bribe reika with korok seeds for some canon lore 
More Korok seeds 
yeah i don’t think keeping him in someone’s basement threatening with 1.73 candles is gonna do it
Threaten him with love
❤️ 🔫
nerfgh you’ve clearly haven’t gone with the flow of this channel lmao
threaten him with the love of the sky community
that would be very overwhelming in my opinion

Nerf u might have to delete the profanity, even though it’s an abbreviation, it’s not allowed here
What the fudge?
so.. are the playable characters the same as the winged light kids and ||the ones in the eye of eden that are all gray and dying?||
To be honest
We don’t kno
But we have theories that they are a different race of skykids that failed to do their mission
ah
so is it just an infinite cycle of them dying, helping the others, hoping that one will get to the center?
not exactly
Not rlly
i mean it’s more like restoring light to the kingdom
or perhaps shattering that power diamond?
Somewhat more or so saving the ones lost but in turn you sacrifice yourself
We were able to save the passed skykids
Not sure
yep jay
that cycle wqs used before to acquire knowledge and bring it to the big bird
Seems when the loose all light they simply turn into a statue and or a spirit at the very end if there’s enough darkness
my theory is those sky kids were trapped there during the explosion thats why they turned into stones
I think thw cycle of life used to be just like we do now: we die th3n go back to the orb to meet the bird
They were there when eden exploded so that may be why they are stuck
So eden was a process everyone had to get thru
chekc that pic
it just seems like journey’s concept except more altered
like how the vault is similar to the giant tower in journey
yeah
The race,
the undergorund
vault
”eden”
Theres enough evidence to prove this timeline is the official one in the game
It’s not
the one in the tomcepts?
theres many similar aspects but since its concept art we dk if its the same timeline in the live game
for all we know tgc changed some parts of the lore in the timeline so that it shows ingame too
Like?
.. we dont know?
i do believe parts of the timelien. just not the entire thing
specifically the ark bit. eden is pretty much just a mountain, plus the massive diamond isnt in the timeline. the diamond is a big part of the eden lore in the live game
im sure tgc tries to put their vision of the game in live whilst trying to keep money and resources stable. thats the thing that sucks. imagination and creativity is free but once you try to make it to reality it costs
this is what i was talking about when i said i came to the lore channel seeing someone proving a point instead of theorising
it looks like a polished darkstone that the king consumed and possibly killed himself with
Polished dwrk stone thwt broke apart sending pieces all over the eden


