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drifting copper
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forest aunt

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ye s

signal zinc
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tru xD

drifting copper
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she has a hammer she knows how to use it

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i can’t trust an elder who was supposed to be sexy and possessed

spring blaze
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valley elders has paddles they can just smack them

signal zinc
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forest aunt is thor but better xD

drifting copper
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prairie is sleeping shhhhh SkyShush

signal zinc
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he a sleepy boi

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let him sleep

modest sequoia
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How did she get make that hammer without having previously said hammer?

spring blaze
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she used a hammer to make a hammer

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or its like.... materialized of light, like mantas

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its very glowy

signal zinc
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forest aunt's hammer is mjolnir 2.0

spring blaze
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it glow

signal zinc
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big glow

modest sequoia
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Or that was one big ash butterfly, with claws

drifting copper
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i still feel like krills are more like programmed war machines or even trained war creatures they made

modest sequoia
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Maybe it was just a bad day

drifting copper
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leaning more on the former

cold aspen
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hello everyone

signal zinc
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police krill-

drifting copper
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like 2 krills at battlefield are almost synchorised in movement

cold aspen
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and yea i wonder how the krills even spawned into existence

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hello!!

drifting copper
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police dogs

cold aspen
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yes

signal zinc
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don't the krills have a set path that they patrol? xD

cold aspen
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very large german shephards

drifting copper
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yeah they do

cold aspen
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JDJCKDJD

drifting copper
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that’s why i said synchorised movement lmao

modest sequoia
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Made to stop escaping butterflies and eels?

drifting copper
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they’re very blind

signal zinc
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ik xD

modest sequoia
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Jail wardens

drifting copper
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no they were made for the war

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i still wonder who’s fighting who

cold aspen
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i kind of thought everyone died in a sense

drifting copper
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everyone died

cold aspen
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yea true,,,

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pretty sure those are the mantas

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perhaps?

drifting copper
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no it seems like it was transport between broken temple and battlefield

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the odd shapes of graveyard

cold aspen
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ohhh

modest sequoia
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Why krill no eat krill?

drifting copper
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can’t be natural

spring blaze
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they aint the type to eat they own kind

cold aspen
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cannibalism

spring blaze
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plus they only target light anyway

drifting copper
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cannibalism is bad in every way

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no too far away

spring blaze
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i mean

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its plausible

drifting copper
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though it could be wind

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like

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radiation

modest sequoia
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Destruction too organized, not organic

spring blaze
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any theory here is plausible at this point pFIRE

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i wonder why theres so much.. bones in one area anyway. did they all just die there? were their bones moved there? theres bones in rocks

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im just ???????

signal zinc
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maybe bc there were a large group of animals that lived there, idk

drifting copper
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well we do have shipwreck

spring blaze
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why are there krills patrolling the graveyard area? everyones dead. what are they patrolling for?

drifting copper
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i think it was an army base camp

signal zinc
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part of their internal programming?

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idk

spring blaze
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they were there before we existed

drifting copper
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used animals to make their camps

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since they are pretty sturdy

spring blaze
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would make sense as to why theres a literal crab roast and why theres lamps in hiding holes

drifting copper
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ye ah

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army camp right before battlefield too

signal zinc
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perhaps travelers passed through and put those things there idk

drifting copper
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so it makes the most sense for me

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hell no

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wasteland is a literal wasteland

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army dogs could work

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like the mantas maybe

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whales would be to transport their barricades or weapons and such

modest sequoia
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My theory, krills scavengers, feeding off the waste put out by the Wasteland refinery just beforehand. Like seagulls at a landfill

drifting copper
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ooooo

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interesting theory

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i think the krills were there for protection though

modest sequoia
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That's why bones and stuff, they'd just throw the scraps there after they got the usable light

drifting copper
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yall keep going with your theories i have to go

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everything in sky is dark

modest sequoia
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A pipe can carry a whale, boat not big enough

signal zinc
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bye

drifting copper
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no happiness in this post-war world

jovial nacelle
signal zinc
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lol

jovial nacelle
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I should add an angy mark on that squint emote-

spring blaze
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sky looks adorable and pretty and nice but like when you dig deeper its prettt dang dark

signal zinc
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angy squint

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darker than the valley seasonal tunnel

spring blaze
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in the pray area?

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no clue

modest sequoia
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Gotta find expansion space

signal zinc
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secret tunnel

spring blaze
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kinda wack of rhem to throw in a tunnel that just twists and overlooks the room lol

modest sequoia
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Things don't just stop dying

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Bad contractors?

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Tomb of the unknown skykid?

signal zinc
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it is the sacred tunnel that gives people ebic thonking power

jovial nacelle
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What happened here?

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Laughs in eden

modest sequoia
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I actually just like my bad contractors thing

jovial nacelle
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What tunnel?

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Oh

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To where the

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Seasonal spirit is?

signal zinc
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seasonal thonk boi

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yup

jovial nacelle
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Ok

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The tunnel was made to guide the residents that work inside the vault to get a view or transfer the magic towards the crystal.

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The crystal was then enchanted with the knowledge the crystals had.

modest sequoia
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Looking for a way out?

calm bobcat
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Maybe the tunnel was like quick travel or an emergency exit

jovial nacelle
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( P . S this was my theory )

signal zinc
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yup

jovial nacelle
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Yes

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I think the “think” spirit

calm bobcat
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unless........

jovial nacelle
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Is trying to improve their performance

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Think about it,

calm bobcat
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looks like vault spirit

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At*

jovial nacelle
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Why would that spirit be there?

signal zinc
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to seek knowledge probably idk

jovial nacelle
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Exactly-

modest sequoia
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Bad contrators trying to figure out where they made a wrong turnSkyLOL

jovial nacelle
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To gain knowledge to make their performance more elegant-

modest sequoia
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We went straight, I thought

jovial nacelle
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Anyways ima draw my sky valentine card.

calm bobcat
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Tbh I think the vault spirits are waaay older than the Wasteland ones

signal zinc
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lmao we're gonna have to get sum photo evidence of the spirit's story or sth

spring blaze
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“so here’s a tunnel that leads to a better view of the graveyard”
“i think we’re going in cirlces”

jovial nacelle
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And to mention that the wasteland warriors sweat more compared to the vaults

modest sequoia
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I like the fire escape idea now

jovial nacelle
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Hm

calm bobcat
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Like the vault sprits show u the vault and stuff like it’s whatever but the vault is in the wasteland and the wasteland spirits fight the krill like we’re krill bad when the vault spirits were there

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hewwo~

jovial nacelle
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I am questioning why there is an orange pot in the vault,

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I am still.

modest sequoia
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Or trying to link it to the 'cube graveyard'?

jovial nacelle
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confused

signal zinc
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the sacred orange pot of unlimited power

calm bobcat
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cUz ThEy LiKe OrAnGe

jovial nacelle
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Come to think of it, how long was that corpse of whale bones in the final area of wasteland?

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I mean-

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How did they kill it-

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.

calm bobcat
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It’s sinking in the sand so I feel like it’s been there for awhile

modest sequoia
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Same way as the forest whale bones

jovial nacelle
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Personally I would like to think that vaults help to support and enhance their weapons with light, and that light will help gain knowledge to know what happen with that corpse.

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Before it became a corpse,

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And after that.

calm bobcat
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My only problem is that games like sky are really like what’s it called landscaped based like a lot of stuff is there for aesthetic

jovial nacelle
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The vaults couldn’t detect why it wasn’t working?

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Hm.

signal zinc
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it looks like the think spirit is just looking around. after being found by the pray spirit, she guided them up to the top or sth idk lol-

jovial nacelle
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Switching conversation in 3 2 1...

calm bobcat
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I do not trust the vault spirits tbh they seem sketchy

jovial nacelle
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How would wasteland elder and vault elder die?

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.

signal zinc
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oop-

calm bobcat
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Well wasteland=kril—oh

jovial nacelle
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You saw nothing-

signal zinc
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i saw it alright lol-

jovial nacelle
calm bobcat
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Lol

jovial nacelle
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nO?..

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The force.

signal zinc
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idk, probably the polite stance

jovial nacelle
signal zinc
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since they have no cosmetic items, idk-

calm bobcat
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Ok what I need to know is what is the big light thing at Eden

signal zinc
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pray spirit

calm bobcat
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To me it’s just a very angry neon blender

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Like the diamond shape thing that you die in front of

signal zinc
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the giant power diamond

calm bobcat
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Oh

spring blaze
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my interpretation of the vault seasonal?

calm bobcat
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Has anyone played journey btw

spring blaze
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looks like im late lol but i think its just the pray spirit and another spirit touring them around

calm bobcat
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Because they are totally connected

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The worlds

jovial nacelle
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The big light is the beam that ascends skyboids.

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Kids*

spring blaze
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it seems like the rhythm spirits seems to be just looking around the kingdom

calm bobcat
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It yeets us

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I know I love it lol

jovial nacelle
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To also mention the middle of the wasteland vortex also users is.

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Yeets*

spring blaze
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the devs also try to avoid a lot of similarities between sky and journey

jovial nacelle
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Yes

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I tried

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I was disappointed but wow at the same time-

calm bobcat
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Like (spoiler!!!!) at the end it’s the mountain of Eden before it’s destroyed unless that it rebuilt idk the timeline it’s so confusing

jovial nacelle
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No need to spoiler that.

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:/

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Would anyone even mention why there is sand in vault?

calm bobcat
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I know I just didn’t want anyone who maybe wanted to play journey and didn’t want the end ruined lmao

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Oh yeah the sand

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I forgot about the sand covering the floor like the bottom of the vault is like sinking?

signal zinc
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lmao-

calm bobcat
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Gasp

jovial nacelle
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Vault,
The first time we see the vault of knowledge we get this alluring beauty of tower that had multiple stages that were divine each time we encountered them. Vault had many mysteries such as the secret door and the many deaths of others...

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After we finish vault, all of it is ruined.

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Which means

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Vault was a hallucination of perfection

calm bobcat
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Ooh that’s so creepy I love it

jovial nacelle
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Made by light

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To only see the truth,

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That it was already gone.

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Now an entrance to eden.

calm bobcat
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Dang beanie ur gonna keep me up all night with that

jovial nacelle
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Also-

calm bobcat
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👁👁

jovial nacelle
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True

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Vault is the process of aging and dieing

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Our memories get mixed up.

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Which represents the first stage we see vault.

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And we get hallucinations.

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The creatures are our souls we knew.

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Once,

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For a lifetime.

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Eee I gotta draw now!

signal zinc
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baii

calm bobcat
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Tbh what if like the star kids you collect (winged light) are like previous incarnations of yourself

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Bye!

signal zinc
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hMMM

calm bobcat
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HMMMM

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this discussion should just be called hmmm

signal zinc
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lmao xD

calm bobcat
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Yeah I think so

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Yeah lol

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Or just what if

signal zinc
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i mean, if u put it that way, eden would be like we're losing our memories. when we collect light, we gain pieces of our memories back.

calm bobcat
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Oooooooooh

signal zinc
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with each ascended friendship of the spirits that we have, we have certain memories that our brains never forget

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or sth like that lmao-

calm bobcat
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Yeah you know how the spirits are constellations and stuff like each has one, they are made up of all the sky kids (and now spirits) that died there I think

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Like when a sky kid dies they become a star

signal zinc
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aren't spirits, skykids, and elders different species? idk lmao-

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baii boop

calm bobcat
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Bye hope ur rice is good

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It’s 1 am where I am so rice is definitely perfect rn

signal zinc
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lmao

calm bobcat
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Tbh I wish we could have pets in sky like lil critters to follow us like I wanna have a krill pet

signal zinc
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if i had a choice of pet, it would be winter borbo uwu

calm bobcat
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Owo

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Do you think that the isle and the wasteland were once oceans because of all the boats

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I wonder if the world was once flooded with water

signal zinc
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i think i've read a theory that isle, wl and forest are under the clouds-

calm bobcat
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Yeah well duh the Forest is under some clouds, it’s raining lol

signal zinc
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lmao xD

calm bobcat
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The vault now is more scarier than the wasteland thanks to this discussion

signal zinc
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anything can be scarier if you think in a certain mindset

calm bobcat
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that’s vaguely threatening, thank you

signal zinc
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np lol xD

calm bobcat
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Add that to bird watching goes both ways

signal zinc
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i think that the boats were just crashed in the context of isle, since i think that the design is similar to the ones that the wave spirit's friend yeeted off somewhere, as well as the spirit with the boat in the shipwreck area of wl

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idk

calm bobcat
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I wonder why some spirits don’t have wings

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Like the bird call one in prairie

signal zinc
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idk, much interesting

calm bobcat
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Did they not have wings at the time

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She oldddd

signal zinc
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perhaps it could've been a prestige kind of thing? idk

calm bobcat
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p r e s t i g e

signal zinc
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like, they be prestigious bc they are now able to fly w/ their capes

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idk

calm bobcat
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maybe that’s why the forest capes are colored like they seem like they have a high rank idk

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The valley twins don’t have wings either

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Neither does the elder isle

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0-0 wat this mean oh no

signal zinc
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the only elder with a cape is battle dad

humble barn
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some spirits have capes but I don't think they were wings

calm bobcat
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Oh yeah

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Oh! Hello mochi you scared us

humble barn
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HiOreoYes

spring blaze
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capes seems to be for just decorative purposes

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on the spirits

calm bobcat
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Well you also can’t fly without it that’s the only probl—WAIT

humble barn
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yeah

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we never saw the spirits fly,
or even, they actually swim in the orbit

calm bobcat
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WHAT IF THE CAPES WERE JUST CAPES UNTIL SOMEONE FIGURED OUT HOW TO HARNESS LIGHT AND MAKE US FLY

signal zinc
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probably us idk xD

calm bobcat
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Like you know how the vault spirits are lifting things using their minds

spring blaze
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i mean in space irl you kinda move like ur swimming as you move around the iss i think lol

calm bobcat
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Maybe that was them first trying to use light power (and diamonds and all that Jazz)

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Gosh my English is so bad what is it called when you lift stuff with your head I can’t remember the word

humble barn
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telekinesis? the emote is called telekinesis

calm bobcat
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O H

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yeah that

signal zinc
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lol

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'move things with your mind' power xD

calm bobcat
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l E a vE
m E
bE

signal zinc
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mb, was just making a reference xD

calm bobcat
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lol

signal zinc
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lmao

calm bobcat
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Do we actually have faces or do we always have a mask because when we lose all our light we have no eyes and look at that weird line across the avatars face like what is that lol

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And it has a diamond on the forehead

humble barn
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the spirits swim in the orbit because they never been able to fly when they were alive.
humans will swim in the orbit too
skykids and birds and sky mantas can fly in the orbit because they know how to fly

signal zinc
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when ur maskless, u have eyelashes uwu

calm bobcat
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Gasp

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Okay but what’s with the diamond on the head like are we living creatures because we are like powered by light and die when we get rained on too much and sizzle and when we lose all that light we have no eyes

signal zinc
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hihi boop

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lmao

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xD

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idk, but the last thing that was mentioned was by bluena about why the masks have diamonds on their forheads

calm bobcat
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It’s open game at this point lol

signal zinc
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lol

calm bobcat
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Got anything juicy

signal zinc
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^^

calm bobcat
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everything must have reason

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(Jk)

signal zinc
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lmao

calm bobcat
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Hmmm I dunno

humble barn
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i believe they don't

signal zinc
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no stars on the capes i think

calm bobcat
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I just remembered something ooh

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You know how we light white candles to see the stories of the elders

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What if like those were left for us to find if something went wrong because the elders didn’t really know if this whole power crystal thing was gonna work out

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Yeah

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Like a time capsule!

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Hm what do you mean

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why were you hoarding those butterflies elder, huh what were you gonna do with them

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👁️

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Too many pots

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you open all the doors and more butterflies fly out

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He got lost in the pots

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It’s like he’s still alive and there and he is trying to call for help with the candles and butterflies

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Oh geez I just looked at the time I need to sleepp

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they are just hiding more pots they hide them from the prairie elder

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Oh goodnight 💤

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b o a t s ?

cold aspen
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i wonder if like

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i guess it’s possible for uh

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hello!!!!

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and goodnight bluena

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i wonder if it would be possible for the ancestors to come back? like atleast the people besides the children of ligjt

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because it’s pretty vacant and lowkey sad once you think about everyone being dead

spring blaze
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where are their bodies though?

cold aspen
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^^ 😳

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we probably walk over their bodies in all honesty

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it’s like how after battles the grass covers up the bodies over time and we never seem to think about it

spring blaze
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sand covering up dead soldier’s bodies...

signal zinc
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tru-

spring blaze
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man i dont wanna think of that

cold aspen
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^^^ basically!!! they’re just there you know

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like gettysburgh

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you’re just walking on bodies man

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REALLY

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DJEMDJDJDM

spring blaze
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yeah

cold aspen
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NSNXNSNDND

spring blaze
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there was this skykid on a boat that like calls to you

cold aspen
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omg

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man we could’ve had actual ghosts

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although

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i guess we do?

spring blaze
signal zinc
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omg that's so sick

cold aspen
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THATS...

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wow that’s sad

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but also radical

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save them....

hushed steeple
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this game makes you very happy but very sad

spring blaze
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aa i cant find the kid on the boat one but i swea ri remember seeing about it

cold aspen
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yooo i wanna ride a boat 🥺

spring blaze
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found it!

signal zinc
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oop-

cold aspen
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YO....

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ugh we stan deep lore

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i just want to know what’s up with vault mom

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ahhh

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she is a mom and that is all

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she probably got wacked since she has that scar on her eye 😞

spring blaze
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wonder what happenedSkyThink

cold aspen
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🤔

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think

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thonk

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war related things perhaps 😳

spring blaze
drifting copper
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possibly an enemy that landed a blow on her while she ran to the temple’s safety

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wasteland elder does seem like he’s protecting the vault and all its knowledge and resources

cold aspen
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oh yea definitely

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he is a Massive Unit

drifting copper
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we need 30 of him

signal zinc
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best boi

cold aspen
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JD@CMD@DKMD

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THICC MAN

drifting copper
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he’s just big boi

cold aspen
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he is the one to say all women are queens

signal zinc
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he's a tired boi, let him rest lol

cold aspen
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JDMXJDNDJ

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i WILL make his bed for him

signal zinc
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lmao xD

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and i shall help u xD

cold aspen
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yes i will need lots of help

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dude has an xxxxl king sized bed

signal zinc
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we must make it perfect so he gets the gud rest that he needs

cold aspen
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YES

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ikea mattress

hushed steeple
signal zinc
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it broke my heart when he fell in his cutscene ;-;

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it's beautiful ty

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wow, look at all of them buildings

hushed steeple
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those pipes run throughout wasteland (not sure where they start) and finally into the temple which is vault

spring blaze
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pretty

hushed steeple
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so they’re either dumping sludge (oil) into wasteland while trying to refine dark rocks, or they’re bringing in something, or exporting something else

signal zinc
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hMMM

cold aspen
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🤔

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also wow didn’t even realize vault and golden wasteland were in the same place

signal zinc
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the temple does lead into the first floor

hushed steeple
signal zinc
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wALL

hushed steeple
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so perhaps that’s the eden outer wall

signal zinc
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v good wall

cold aspen
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11/10 wall

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i keep thinking aboht the hero stance ancestor in the valley and how she had a kid 🥺👉👈

signal zinc
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big sad ;-;

spring blaze
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that kid is dead now

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since its also a spirit

signal zinc
cold aspen
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UGH I KNOWWWWW LIKE WAAA

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🥺🥺

drifting copper
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it’s real sad

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but hey we know spirits were basically human

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they naturally showed some affection towards each other while sky kids don’t

spring blaze
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confirmed: my skykid doesnt know what love is

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i bully my friends

cold aspen
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JSNXJSNDJD

drifting copper
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NDBDJSHEJSHSBS

hushed steeple
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last theory before i duck out: sky people made cosmic mantas through genetic engineering via slicing jellyfish dna (they both have the same appearance), hence why you only find them in vault. im convinced “knowledge” in vault is just all their most advanced science in the form of a giant research facility at this point.

spring blaze
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theyre called spirit mantas though

hushed steeple
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does tgc call them that or did players come up with the name?

signal zinc
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i believe that their names are cosmic mantas, as the voice is called the cosmic manta call

spring blaze
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tgc called them that

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in the quests its like “meditate with the spirit mantas”

hushed steeple
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ah ok. yeah, i was just going off the appearance alone of taking a normal manta and making it translucent using the jellyfish appearance. i’m not exactly sure if tgc simply refers to them as that, or what the actually sky ppl call them, or if the name has relevance to the species

spring blaze
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eh its alright

hushed steeple
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what i do know tho, is the sky ppl def tamper with wildlife if they turn them into diamonds. it wouldn’t surprise me what else they’re capable of

spring blaze
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your theory can still work out. you were able to back it up, and we dont really know how the spirit mantas really existed anyway

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oh geah

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i mean they chopped off trees to built thir diamonds

hushed steeple
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ya. maybe someone will translate the text for vault and we’ll have more answers like egyptian hieroglyphs 😂

signal zinc
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lol xD

spring blaze
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man one day i wish tgc will give us some answers

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though i doubt it cus they like secrets lol

signal zinc
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i mean, who doesn't? xD

spring blaze
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me :( i want some answers

grave totem
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Okay... so some spirits appeared to have kids... right? So that may mean that before all of Eden and stuff, perhaps there was a community or town of some sort? (That’s a weird way of wording it)
But if this idea that children of light grow up somewhat and can reproduce and parent their offspring, what happened to the protagonist’s family?
Basically, I decided to create my lil’ baby’s mom because why not.
I would really like to see (if the idea of towns/villages, prior to everyone’s untimely death I guess, is real) these towns and potentially spirits could live there?
I know, that makes no sense. But I would really like to see more depth to the protagonist and their history. I wanna visit a town that has spirits of parents, Warriors, shop owners, etc. I wanna see them just lowkey be there. Because in the valley of triumph, it looks like some remnants of a town were there, where did they go?

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Sorry for me pouring out my feelings, I just wanna see that there was actual life within the world before the fricking apocalypse.
(It would be really fun for me because angst)

hushed steeple
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not sure if that’s a suggestion ^, but TGC has indicated the elders, sky spirits, and child of light are all different beings.

elders are more like deities to the sky ppl, and children of light seem more or less created from light to save those incapable of moving on. i remember someone in here talking about children of light not functioning the same as sky ppl, with respect to aging etc.

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as far as cities go, I think the sky ppl colonized all the different realms, but eden and valley were major cities. i think of eden as their capital so to speak, likely where this king of theirs was.

since the elders fell from the stars and there is orbit, I also think there is an ascendant realm where they lived. tho i’m not sure if the child of light has any of that if they were created by elders for a specific task

wild vortex
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lol i was thinking about whether elders and spirits were related and i saw this message, thx for explaining this

split sleet
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Wasn’t valley the center of their civilization?

delicate belfry
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Could have very well been, and maybe later they decided to expand to Eden with golden wasteland providing the resources. Kinda like how Kyoto used to be Japan's capital for a long while until they changed to Tokyo.

grave totem
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I mean, I knew that Elder and children of light were different but ya know... tea.
Does that mean that children of light are potentially angels in some way? Sky spirits are humans (or what’s left of them), elders are gods, and children of light are angels

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I meant, that way, angels can’t be born to a family, so that would add

hushed steeple
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I have to leave in a minute but what if

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The skykids

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uhhh

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so u know how all the spirits were wiped out

inland dune
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Yea

hushed steeple
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we don’t see many child spirits, most are adults

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what if the kids survived

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and turned into children of light

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because

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the fallen stars protected them from the storm

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and created their capes

inland dune
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Well, proud stance in valley had a child

hushed steeple
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and turned them into beings of light

inland dune
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And they look different from us

hushed steeple
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@delicate belfry ya, valley might have been their main civilization. eden is just so massive compared to the other cities i assume they moved there or expanded

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idk

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i gtg tho oof

inland dune
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Besides, i think in a livestream, the creators said that we’re different species from the spirits

grave totem
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@hushed steeple I agree with you. Thats what I thought about in my first post, I just worded it terribly

hushed steeple
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working on a mega lore doc which encompasses many of the theories here and what is known about sky, so look forward to yalls cannonocal critiques when it’s done. hopefully will be able to add some of it to the sky fandom which is devoid of lore

grave totem
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YESSSSSSSS

hushed steeple
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I wouldn’t get too excited yet 😂 this thing is turning into a book

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do we have any in-game examples of these corrupt descendants?

wind bone
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Statues in eden

hushed steeple
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@wind bone the ones we give wings to? or are there other statues too?

wind bone
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The ones you see when you’re scaling the mountain

hushed steeple
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the old bodies of the spirits that you burn to release them also look like the corrupt descendants

grave totem
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Maybe the adult sky spirits were corrupted somehow, maybe it’s some d e e p metaphor about adults and how they get corrupted once they grow older?

hushed steeple
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deep

grave totem
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d e e p

hushed steeple
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thanks Seraph 🙂

calm bobcat
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If you look closely in the background there’s these huge factories surrounded by pipes makes me wonder what they were doing

hushed steeple
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writing about that in my doc, but basically the pipes seem to exit into wasteland and i believe they trace all the way back through all of wasteland into eden. on my next eden run i’ll trace back where the pipes lead to figure out what sludge it is they were pumping

celest spoke
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What if the weird side tunnels in Vault were supposed to be pipe channels but were never finished?

Also, I noticed when rewatching the Prairie temple cutscene that the Elder takes candlelight and uses it to actually create a butterfly; did they create all the other light creatures too?

fiery condor
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I think with the pipes they are extracting light from the big diamond in eden then to wasteland (which i think used to be some place different before krills happened), then to valley all the way to forest to be distributed for more diamond productions for whatever machinery they’ll build, maybe because the diamond had too much to handle and cannot control itself anymore, the light in the pipes are liquified and turned dark.

So much to think about it’s hurting my braincells SkyScared

Also @celest spoke i also agree that the tunnels in vault used to be pipe channels, there are water dripping and all over the ground when we get to the deepest floor of the maze infested with so many crabs, unlike the other floors where there are just few

river frost
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I never thought about the continuity of the pipes... it’s interesting that they’re in forest and wasteland. And vault tunnels could definitely be remnants of the pipes but is there an actual pipe in the vault anywhere like we see in wasteland?

fiery condor
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I don’t know, we don’t see any more pipes outside of the maze of vault, maybe just hiding on the walls and we just can’t see it SkyLOL

hushed steeple
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probably not true but just an interesting concept: what if dark creatures were created from negative thoughts

fiery condor
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Omg i was thinking of that too. Sky kids getting corrupted because of so much anger and hatred, but question is, what would they be so angry at? Other sky kids or something else theyve faced alone?

hushed steeple
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maybe just the state of the world and how it was destroyed and the stupidity of the spirits putting themselves in danger and then needing the sky children to fix everything for them

fiery condor
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Hmmm maybe

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Or maybe dark creatures/ sky kids are created from their remains after they ‘die’

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Not saying that dark creatures are like zombies

hushed steeple
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theyre zombies

fiery condor
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No like i mean the kind of zombies that would eat other creatures
maybe the kind of zombies that turn them to one of them by not eating them
no wait theyre almost the same thing—

dense edge
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Just a random thought- so the wasteland and Eden are both horrible places to hang out but in between them is the vault and it’s just vibing there with nothing to worry about whatsoever, it’s not even possible to die in there. Do we ever get to see what’s on the outside?

spring blaze
calm bobcat
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jaybird, our on going theory is that the vault is an illusion because the real thing is actually destroyed (like the vault spirits left us a intact recording type thing)

spring blaze
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@hushed steeple close up of those statues

jovial nacelle
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Those are probably dead sky kids.

tribal locust
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It's just water out there

jovial nacelle
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Which was extremely brutal..

tribal locust
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But lorewise not sure

spring blaze
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yeah ani but we dont encourage that

jovial nacelle
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Has anyone thought of sky kids as protostars?

calm bobcat
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what do you mean exactly

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also we meet again beanie lol

jovial nacelle
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Yes we do.

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True.

spring blaze
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idk what’s happening but the entirety of office is all easter eggy and has no connection to lore. its just a fun area for those who supports the devs via founders cape and during pre-launch

jovial nacelle
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Hmm

spring blaze
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knite, in the gnomon talk they said the exact same thing!

jovial nacelle
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Would anyone like to hear me about the protostars theory?

calm bobcat
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YES

spring blaze
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pEyes un, yeah?? we’re always down to hear any theory!

calm bobcat
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hit me!

jovial nacelle
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The birth of sky kids
Before the sky kids were born, the elders ruled as the giants of a sector. They were a peaceful cluster, Orbiting and becoming as one together.

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But that didn’t last long.

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As another was coming.

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A massive nebulae star approached their sector / eden. The star collided with their main star, flinging them out of their sector.

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The star cluster scattered along with the nebulae cloud.

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The next few billion years.

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The 6 stars were in a different sector, now they are the giants that rule those.

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The first star:

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During the collision.

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The nebulae cloud began forming protostars.

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Now becoming sky kids.

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Those stars roamed across the galaxy, encountering isle.

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Isle represented the birth of stars as where are our sky kid were born and made,

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Daylight.

calm bobcat
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beanie has big brain

dense edge
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Now that I think of it the shape of sky kids do look like stars

jovial nacelle
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Daylight was the stage of maturity as the stars developed and increased size.

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Hidden forest.

dense edge
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Especially with the capes

calm bobcat
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reverse chibi mask

jovial nacelle
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Hidden forest was the stage of cooling down.

calm bobcat
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yeah because some older spirits dont have capes

jovial nacelle
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The stars light began to dim...

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Valley

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Valley was the heating of the stars, now making heavy elements. After that, they grew More size and became giants.

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Wasteland

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Some of the stars died as another collided which were the krills.

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But some lives.

dense edge
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This is making me think of how people call the winged light children Stars

jovial nacelle
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As a small dwarf.

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Vault.

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Vault was the dieing of stars as their light became more dim, the first time we see vault we see this fine and alluring beauty of blue and grace of each level which represented it’s past stages. And after, vault became a ruined tower.

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As it was already ruined

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Eden.

spring blaze
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they remind me of stars haha

jovial nacelle
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Once we enter the rebirth sequence of passing down the stars to the dead sky kids, we have already died there as we became supernova. And that supernova we play as the nebulae cloud which form the.

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New stars.

calm bobcat
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so like the more spirits that use light and create things without thinking just playing around the more it dims

jovial nacelle
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And that is the life cycle of stars.

spring blaze
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plus its easier to type than winged light. i typically call then stars or starkids unless im answering a question

jovial nacelle
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Any questions?

calm bobcat
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i like how you used science in this theory because we are stars

jovial nacelle
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Thank you.

calm bobcat
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hmm but if we come from stars why do we become them when we die (spirit constellations)

jovial nacelle
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What do you mean?

calm bobcat
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like if star kids are protostars and are born from stars but spirits are put into constellations when we die (like when we ascend we are in space)

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like in the terms of your theory is the star kid different from us sky kids and the spirits

jovial nacelle
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It’s different?

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L

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.

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We do become constellations.

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Since at eden

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By looking up, you can see a sky kid constellation.

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So

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We became a constellation.

calm bobcat
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oh wait i get it now sorry the rebirth part messed it up in my small brain

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(i forgot how a freaking star worked)

jovial nacelle
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Pfft-

calm bobcat
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this discussion has made the wasteland my favorite realm

spring blaze
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same!

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full of so much lore

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plus im not scared of krills anymore B) im willing to get hit

hushed steeple
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wasteland seems to hold a lot of keys to unlocking sky

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the other realms are important, but there’s a lot going on there

calm bobcat
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i know its so interesting and dark i wish i could explore it more but the krills make it impossible

jovial nacelle
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What about they use the old concept for the krills-

hushed steeple
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WTB observer mode to explore the maps outside of character

jovial nacelle
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Imagine

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How terrifying it would be.

spring blaze
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theyre HORRIFYING

jovial nacelle
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AW COME ON.

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HOW BAD IS IT?

spring blaze
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they are literally a flying black mass with a mouth THAT HAS TEETH

jovial nacelle
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How bad would it be?

drifting copper
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wait i don’t think i looked at the old krill concept

jovial nacelle
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I mean, yay.

drifting copper
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SHOW

jovial nacelle
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But

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They would also make sky kids bleed which makes it more natural.

drifting copper
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I MUST SEE THE MONSTROSITY THEY WANTED TO PUT

jovial nacelle
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Ok

hushed steeple
jovial nacelle
spring blaze
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horshoe crabs!

drifting copper
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oooooo

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it reminds me of a frog

spring blaze
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HOW-

hushed steeple
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if you look toward the bottom of that pic i posted, you see the same exact concepts the guardians are made from in journey

drifting copper
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FROG MY DUDE

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THE LITTLE LEGS

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AND THE LONG MOUTH THING REMINDS ME OF A LEECH

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LIKE LEECHING LIGHT OUT

spring blaze
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mhm. a lot of similarities are intenntional but the devs also try not to put too much journey into sky

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in the gnomon talk yui says something like.. journey and sky are “parallel universes” if i recall

calm bobcat
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okay what are those HUGE creatures that you can see in the wasteland home thing and that zone in the forest (the one where you have to break the floor to get in)

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like they are really f a t and they kinda remind me of eels

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i looked them up lol

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apparently theres one you can interact with in eden!

stark marten
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Or neither?

glacial linden
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Coelacanth?

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It’s a kind of rare fish. I’ve seen the whale be referred to as that somewhere before and there are some similarities....

glacial linden
radiant shard
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I don’t know if this is common knowledge but I just found out the real life version of the darkness that is amethyst mushrooms.

drifting copper
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oooooooooo

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even has the same colours

sly kestrel
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Looks almost exact

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👀

drifting copper
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fungi that grows after some place gets abandoned?

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that also reminds me of yesterday when i was speculating if the darkness plants were actually spirits that died there

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but then i noticed the little baby plants in the butterfly pots so that’s probably why i forgot

spring blaze
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like the chopped trees in forest

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ye

drifting copper
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hmmm

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i’m not sure if anyone mentioned this but

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most likely before or during the explosion

west fossil
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Makes me wonder why it exploded.. cause theres no beam of light, and the beam of light is how you got to orbit

unborn eagle
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that concept of dark creature scares me

drifting copper
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well there’s an oob where a power diamond that powers eden blew the elders away

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ikr

unborn eagle
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imagine that one got into the game, it might be scarier x1000 times

drifting copper
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but they look like frogs and leeches

west fossil
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Tbh I wish more dark creatures were in the game

drifting copper
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won’t balance then

unborn eagle
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nightmare-ish map for pro players?

drifting copper
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all light has to have darkness as well so oop

west fossil
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But what about lore side, having more monsters to be drawn on the walls?

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Creatures you have never seen but could fear.

drifting copper
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well we still have the mega krill and megabird theories

unborn eagle
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those looks amazing

west fossil
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Thats like a whale and a krill had children

drifting copper
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they look like journey’s creatures

unborn eagle
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one that we could ride in Valley, and one we should avoid all cost in Wasteland

west fossil
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I had a dream about evil jellyfish

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Once, and they chased you around randomly

unborn eagle
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or they just stuck to your body and we have to run into lights to get it off, if not they will eat your lights out

west fossil
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Evil jellyfish could be red and black or blue and black

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Feeds on the light, nom nom

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It could get annoying though.

unborn eagle
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om nom nom

west fossil
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Little jelly leeches

drifting copper
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the pots are weird

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are all the pots the same cause if so they literally just cram every butterfly they can inside that

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squished together can’t even fly

dusk marsh
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Idrk where this should be discussed but what do you think is going on in the crying spirits memories? I sort of have an idea but not really

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Oh :’( thanks man

dense edge
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The pattern on top of the door looks like the portals in the home area- There’s also a star on top and the middle one looks like the Eden door- I don’t know if this has anything to do with the lore but— also the inside of this room looks like the picture in the vault constellation?? If that makes any sense.

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Like the windows are the diamonds on the sides or smthn idk

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It’s also a very long room

sly kestrel
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@stark marten the way I saw it is that there was this girl with some friends in the cave, idk why they were there but rocks collapsed on them and you can see the cry spirit and another friend try to get them out but sadly they died 😕. Then her other friend also died and idk how but a dark plant was around him and that’s when she built graves for all of them. Basically all her friends died and she was in the cave crying for it SkyCry

hushed steeple
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does anyone have a link to the japanese livestream 2 where some of the cannon lore came from?

wind bone
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hushed steeple
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awesome, ty

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and the 3 beings are elders, descendants (sky kids), but what are the ground people called?

wind bone
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I think they are called ancients

hushed steeple
sudden sleet
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Borg space ships It looks like more of the light/memory diamonds like what we see in the room with the telekinesis emote

hushed steeple
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yeah. going to translate the japanese live streams and see if they discuss these

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amongst other stuff

dense edge
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Was there like- some alliance thing the isle isn’t part of

crimson grove
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The design explanation for that is because the same model of the Eden portal we have now was taken from the aviary. Back then, you awakened in isle and after finishing the level you would go to the aviary and hear the prophecy about getting each elder blessing to face the storm (eden). Each level had a portal for you to visit and after you finished it, their mask would light up on the Eden gate and it would be available once all of them were lit

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Isle wasn't really one of them, more like a prologue you would come back to after being reborn (you could still revisit isle, but it didn't have a portal like other levels)

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Some people have the theory that isle and eden are related on the process of rebirth, and that's why it wasn't included before and now!

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or maybe with all the design changes and being born in home now, and isle being a proper level they just didn't update the door SkyLOL

hushed steeple
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isle is so confusing. originally they wanted it to be a shipyard, then it was an intro level and the elder shipped the kids off to the next level on boats. and now, we just fly through the clouds to prairie and are shown a scene of isle elder being able to control light and birds. meanwhile in vault, we’re shown content from prerelease isle elder’s guidance to sky kids

crimson grove
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the current mural is different than the one we had when isle had boats we could use to go to prairie

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the current one doesn't look like skykids on the boats, but maybe spirits

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the old one for comparison, with exactly 4 boats (just like the level had) and skykids on them

grave totem
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Oooooooh

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Now, why would they show that if that’s not even content within the game?

crimson grove
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it makes sense to shows spirits on the boats though, because we can assume that's the way they used to fly between lands

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the current isle temple seems to be on top of a boat (if you look at the terrain around it, it looks just like a boat). some people believe that there's where the kingdom started, and maybe all the boats departed from there

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you can even see boats on the walls of the isle temple

hushed steeple
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interesting. thanks for posting the old version for comparison. but yeah, in Isle, I don’t recall seeing anything that provides explanation for the vault constellation. I need to go back through the level and screenshot all the wall paintings and reference them against the vault version.

hushed steeple
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I just noticed that these birds have markings like the mantas.

crimson grove
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Yeah I think so!

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Maybe the constellation represents each elder “role” on the kingdom. Isle might’ve been transportation, prairie storage, forest industry, valley entertainment maybe? wasteland military and vault the archives

hushed steeple
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I believe so. most things line up with the old concept with the exception of the old vault and eden ideas.

drifting copper
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spirits

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ancestors if we’re going in game terms

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also journey and sky being parellel universes gives me some sort of idea of the differences

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one where the stars didn’t fell and were worshipped as gods and the other where the stars fell and built a kingdom in the clouds and more worshipped as rulers than gods

grave totem
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I am a little curious about journey

drifting copper
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same

grave totem
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Personally, I prefer sky because of the customization and additions to the game. But I also REALLY wanna see more lore from the world... world building is awesome~

drifting copper
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so far though in journey i can only tell that the people (ancestors) figured out how to live for themselves while worshipping the stars

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similar to real life

grave totem
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I’m kind of stuck between two separate theories

drifting copper
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now in the sky universe since there aren’t gods but rulers it’s a bit more chaotic

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lmao i’m stuck between all the theories

grave totem
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One where sky kids are angels, elders are gods, and sky spirits are humans of sorts.
The second one is that elders are gods and sky kids and spirits created a civilization of his own. Unfortunately, this came to an end because of the storm. Now the children are living in a beautiful post-apocalyptic world where they watch the spirits of their ancestors. Who all passed away.
I like to think that sky children had families and lives before the events of the game, and depending on whatever, they were ripped away from their family.
That’s just me... y’all can ignore me otherwise

drifting copper
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lmao

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well it wasn’t the sky kids that had families but the spirits

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sky kids are mere vessels that are used to bring back the elders home

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they don’t even have emotions so oop

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i like to think the elders were gods but then became rulers to the spirits as time passes

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forest aunt did oop

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at least her industry did

pulsar dragon
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my belief is the elders created it. they are the reason the world is how it is. they wanted to industrialize, they wanted to change everything. and eventually it imploded

drifting copper
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they wanted too much power

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seems like they started abusing their power around the time before eden’s power diamond created the explosion

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i’m still going wild about the journey and sky theory i suddenly had in general lmao

pulsar dragon
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yeah. for me the worlds are a progression through the story though not exactly in order (for me vault wouldnt be exactly where it is in the timeline). you can see the world get more complex and technologically advanced, and valley is the height of it. then it got corrupted and fell to pieces and thus wasteland.

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i think the elders are dead lol

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the narrator is the creator and is like not an elder imo

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thats where people think it is the eden king i think

drifting copper
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elders are dead bro

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yeah it’s most likely the king

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can’t be vault vault

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maybe the prince?

mystic moat
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I feel like we only ever go through entire thing once

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And every time we go back through a portal we’re travelling back in time to when we first went

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And Home is kinda like Purgatory

drifting copper
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i feel like the less technologically advanced realms denied to add more things so oop

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ouch purgatory

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kinda just leads me back to the war that happened in wasteland

mystic moat
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Not dead but not exactly alive either, stuck outside of time

sudden sleet
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my belief is the elders created it. they are the reason the world is how it is. they wanted to industrialize, they wanted to change everything. and eventually it imploded
This is feeling so real right now SkyCry

celest spoke
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ok this is a weird thought brought on by too much tea and shwarma this late at night... but if the elders could create butterflies out of light and stuff them in clay jars, and extended the process to making bigger and stronger light creatures and putting them in more high-tech containers, what if they made us and the winged light is like, our real souls but our skykid bodies are just the clay containers walking around trying to refill ourselves

edgy heath
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Hmmm

dull coral
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Or the jars were contaminated and accidentally breading moths, the moths died and we just released their light spirits to wander the world

drifting copper
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well we are basically just

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walking vessels with no human traits

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no emotions, no care for others since all of that they either learn or we control them to do so

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plus they’re only here now to fulfill their mission

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so yeah the sky kids are probably shaped by someone who has some better skills than prairie dad

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he can only form a butterfly but whoever created the sky kids has some better skill at manipulating the shape of light

celest spoke
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forest aunt hammered us into shape ow

limpid basin
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I’m just joining this
I’ve been contemplating it since I started and finished the first time

The depth and philosophy/ lore/ mythology they have used and created is mind blowing

The understanding of multiple cultures layered like this is brilliant

I have theories but I would like to hear others I’ll read this whole thing now just to get a handle on the consensus

I’m happy to listen to anyone

celest spoke
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check pinned messages for canon info

celest spoke
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whut

grave totem
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Question: what exactly are moths, because I’m a little curious to know what exactly they are

drifting copper
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they’re a community term for new players

grave totem
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

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I’m a 🤡

drifting copper
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lmAo

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don’t worry i was confused too

grave totem
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Still a clown tho

hushed steeple
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Maybe each elder made one part of the sky child?

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🤔

drifting copper
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won’t that be a mess of traits

deep badger
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I like how sky children honour/greet spirits by imitating their movements. Lowkey laugh-crying at unlocking the comedic SkyFaint emote from the poor dude in Wasteland who straight up fell over and died lol

grave totem
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Lol it is funny. My question is, obviously spirits are different than sky kids, so why do some of them have capes?

drifting copper
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cosmetics mAn

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they wanna be stylish too

hushed steeple
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Lol true

shy relic
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The star behind the final eden gate that you can get if you don’t skip the credits..
Is there a video on that¿

hushed steeple
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Better to ask in Eden chat

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But just keep walking forward through the portal, eventually you’ll hear the sound of collecting a star

cold steppe
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I’m pretty sure you get the star even without watching the credits

karmic gorge
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@shy relic walk through the gate, let the vid play, put your ears close to the phone and u will hear a star collection sound, u can skip the credits now

glacial linden
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Oh wow I didn’t know that thanks

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I remember seeing the names of the Elders somewhere

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Could someone direct me to that doc?

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Found this image by searching;

Tsadi, Aylila(?), Teth, Alef and Daleth (which is which?), Lared (?), Samckla(??)

sly kestrel
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Those don’t rlly apply
It was a rlly old concept where they were named after Hebrew letters

scarlet wren
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yeah all of them are so different from the current designs it’s hard to pin who’s who

glacial linden
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Ohhh

grave totem
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Oooooooh

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I didn’t know they had names

tranquil nebula
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What was the purpose of these orbs? They don’t restore light but the glowing circles on the wall do. Could these orbs have the ability of what the glowing star children have? Or did these orbs give the spirits winged light?

crimson grove
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They were part of the Lightseekers season

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The isle spirit could be found there

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Now they’re just there lol

tranquil nebula
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Oooh

crimson grove
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They’re the same kind of lights you chase for daily quests sometimes

grave totem
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Ohhhhhhh

tranquil nebula
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Thank you

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This thought was literally keeping me up at night

runic jolt
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Sounds like hebrew letters -
tsadi- צ, - (forest)
ayin ע

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Aleph - א (valley)

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Tet (teth) - ת

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Dalet(h) - ד (isle)?

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Lamed - ל (isle?)

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Sameach - ס (prairie or vault)

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Now I wanna look at the constellations lol

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Tzadi looks like forest, Aleph looks like valley

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Samech could be vault or prairie

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Isle is lamed or dalet

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@glacial linden where did you find it?

glacial linden
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Just chat searched this channel for the keyword “elder names”

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Had to scroll for a bit

runic jolt
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Image someone else posted

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Seems samech ס was what became vault

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The one named Ayiin ע became isle elder tho isle constellation looks like a lamed ל

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Concept of the twins from valley doesn’t seem to exist in that pic tho

glacial linden
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Yeah it looks to me like in that image, the one named Teth is forest, Tsadi Prairie

runic jolt
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So cool that forest spirit originally had an umbrella

glacial linden
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You’re right! Instead, it makes seven figures because the king was included 🤔.

runic jolt
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Seems king was Aleph

glacial linden
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I think the super short, hunched over Vault mom design is cute

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That’s the prince to her right, isn’t it?
With the cone hat that now belongs to the sassy spirit :V

runic jolt
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Not sure never seen a prince concept

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Interesting the constellation shapes still seem inspired by the hebrew letters

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Think @coral quail would find this interesting

hushed steeple
maiden glen
nocturne estuary
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They are small but mighty

glacial linden
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Oh it’s just the head shape

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On the prince, it’s not a hat

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Were these two figures supposed to convey a sense of artificiality?

hushed steeple
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I’m not exactly sure if the concepts were scrapped, or if they were actually destroyed as livestream 8 says the eden elder is no longer around. it sounds like neither made it into Sky, similar to how the ark ship concept doesn’t seem to exist in eden either. or maybe I missed those somewhere.

grave totem
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Wait? I didn’t know there was a prince?

calm bobcat
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Okay so I was viewing some older messages and I saw thatskykid bring up the cubes in the vault and they remind me of the cubes in castle in the sky by studio ghibli, anyone else? Maybe they had a use like those lol

sudden sleet
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@grave totem Keep in mind, this is old concept art, and not everything that was drawn at the time made it into the game as originally conceived, if it made it in at all

grave totem
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Yeah, I know, I kinda wish we could see the prince again in game.

hushed steeple
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@calm bobcat In the Japanese livestream 3 they say the main area of vault is old and a place where knowledge is hidden, and the large cubes are used to store knowledge. super vague answer.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zmWKRTc_kqI

The concept art of vault tells us that the sky kids go into vault to read ancient paintings, which show stories and memories. I’m assuming that means the little power source deals that light up the diamonds also serve as holographic hard drives . This is also seen in old prerelease screenshots

calm bobcat
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Ohhhh that sounds equally as cool

limpid basin
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There was. A prince

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I noticed each realm is a nod to bits of mythology

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The valley speaks volumes to what ruined them

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A peak and implode

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But that’s not surprising I’m assuming

spring blaze
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i noticed its the same design as the actual model in eden but here its much more clearer imo

slim umbra
steady steppe
thick isle
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Maybe it’s meant to represent the womb? The like sounds and stuff

slim umbra
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Actually found a similar design in valley earlier.

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Makes me wonder why only on those places.

wild vortex
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wasteland elder’s statue is broken at the vault, i wonder if wasteland elder died due to an injury like that and his death is more important than we think...

grave totem
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I thought that the elders were gods of some sort? I’m assuming they were immortal, but maybe no?

wild vortex
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i think they were immortal, but changed when they left orbit

signal zinc
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his statue is also broken in the temple, not just in vault

calm bobcat
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Is it just me or does the Eden castle look like it’s part of the valley?

last wigeon
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I just put this in suggestions what do you guys think

Idea for new land that would not mess with the lore. The land of the time before the battle. Maybe when the tensions were ramping up and the last days of civilization where happening. We could see the building of the great diamond in ||Eden|| look at the light extraction factory in forest, wander in the golden wasteland before the graveyard and see the krill when they where tame before they lost control of them. And go to vault of knowledge where the elders, fearing the end, where making the first sky kids to try to carry the light on. And we could put the portal here

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Sorry my art skills are learner with layering and whatnot

warped reef
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I wonder what they are used for, since the one on top of the temple in battlefield is lit up pThink

last wigeon
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Lazzzzzeerrrrs

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Pew pew pew

warped reef
dusk sluice
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That maybe could be what lifts the gate

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Diamond you light up sends some sort of message to it?

warped reef
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But its on the corners as well, i feel like they don’t have a relation to the gate opening sThink

hushed steeple
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@last wigeon i think a lot of that stuff could be covered in cutscenes, and i’ve suggested we have a in-game lore book to replay memories and have text to tell us about things we discovered. i always have to look up youtube videos to rewatch the spirit memories.

last wigeon
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@warped reef perhaps the lit up crosses were a weapon

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@hushed steeple a lore book we could find in the vault of knowledge

warped reef
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Hmm maybe. Or maybe the ones at the back fueled something else, like the shields and spears you find around battlefield

last wigeon
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Yes @warped reef like a force field until the main power reactor blew up and they were all left defenseless

hushed steeple
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oh that reminds me. the pipes run from the beginning of wasteland all the way through eden up until you go through the cave. if anyone has seen pipes in the last section of eden or has screenshots of them let me know

last wigeon
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I’ll see if I can get some tonight I’m Ubering a friend

hushed steeple
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thanks!

fiery condor
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I wonder if whatever the elders feel (being joy, sadness or anger, etc) could affect their surroundings and the lifestyle of the other spirits. I thought of this one at one point while i was candle farming in forest, was thinking the toxic rain is happening because forest elder felt so sad and desprate she let out toxic rain in her realm

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Like they used to be gods but not really anymore but still has the power?

spring blaze
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oo that does make sense! watching their cutscenes, the mood of their cutscenes kinda reflect on the situation of the realm

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imo

maiden glen
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They do have some influence on the outside world too, it’s shown with the pot appearing in the prairie temple after the cutscene, also the forests door mechanism receiving its last diamond after the forest elder snatched the little flame you bring and repairs the diamond.

I don’t remember any other specifics but ya!

spring blaze
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the weird vault teleportation from the level to the entrance of eden

maiden glen
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Oh ya! I forgot that one dmdnejw,, idk how

spring blaze
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jsncksjc its ok ^^

calm bobcat
sly kestrel
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I think that’s jus ruin

dusk sluice
little panther
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I think it tells you what time the rainbow happens

dusk sluice
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Wow sky tech is pretty advanced to be able to predict a rainbow

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Welp thats that then

spring blaze
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yes its a clock

humble barn
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the clock shows when the rainbow happens in the US pacific time zone. It's an OOPArt in game SkyLOL

celest spoke
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if the rain is constant and the angle of the sun doesn’t have any seasonal variation, then yeah rainbows can be predictable— sunset rainbows are a regular thing in Hawaii along the edge of the rain shadow

hushed steeple
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I just thought those were put there during the first Season (Gratitude) stickerUmm

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“The more you know”

white venture
lucid fractal
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TGC: hippity hoppity no more these things in my property

white venture
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I mean yeah sure I can see something breaking an arch, but leveling a whole cliff?! Nah bro

maiden glen
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They fixed up the butterfly fields to make it feel more open and easier for new players to navigate

sudden sleet
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@@halcyon ingot this channel is specifically to discuss lore related to the story, it’s not a general spoilers channel, so your post would fit better in #screenshots-and-videos with a spoiler tag. Can you remove and repost there please?

halcyon ingot
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@sudden sleet sorry, and done SkyBow

white venture
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@maiden glen ahhhh, okay gotcha

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Thanks brosky

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👉👁〰️👁👉

mortal willow
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1_ Isle of Dawn : it’s the beginning of human life , where you lost and you’re not educated, that’s why it’s like desert .
2_ Daylight Prarie : it’s the childhood part where you go to school , you get education , the desert you were in turned to life , imagination and happiness .
3_ Hidden Forest : it’s the teenage part of your life , the rain that hurts you is the changes that your body goes through , it’s rough part because your thoughts are changing , your emotions! You feel depressed because of your changes that gets a lot of your energy however this won’t last long the rain won’t rain forever, at the end of your teenage-hood , your mental health and your body changes will be stable !
4_ Valley of Triumph : it’s the adulthood part , you will go through a lot and try to find a job and of course also you will lose a lot of friends but the real ones will stay with you and complete the race with you ! This part of life is really fast more than you imagine .
5_ Golden Wasteland : it’s the parenting part , it’s hard because of the children you got , you try to be the best parent ever and give your kids the love they want , you feel exhausted because of the challenges that you face you in the way (dragons) but these challenges worth going through , all you want to see is your kids smile ! Because these moments are like Gold to you
6 _ Vault of Knowledge: it’s the elderly part of your life , you gained a lot of information and a lot of experiences and it’s the point that you ready to leave this life
7_ eye of eyden : it’s the end , your soul left your body but you still want to stay with your kids and you still want to care and look after them but the light in the end tells that it’s ok , your kids are under my protection so you accept your destiny and you will go through your beautiful memories

rose arrow
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Connecting to this idea, i also found this poster in || the office||

drifting copper
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well that’s already canon

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not really a theory but it’s still nice to see what others think SkyLOL

sly kestrel
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They even said it in live-streams

fiery condor
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Yeah @maiden glen it’s exactly what I was gonna say, I didn’t think of the right words to say. I do notice the pot replaced the candles after prairie cutscene too but I didn’t think about how elders would influence the outside world that time

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Now that I’m seeing it again, I’m thinking why the rain stops when you light up the end of the bridge, my mind was like ‘what if the forest elder feel our presence’. Probably through the ring of the bells and she could hear it, thinking someone will come to the temple.

Omg so much unanswered questions to solve it’s hurting my braincells! stickerGloomy

drifting copper
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all i wanna find is evidence to support that sky and journey are probably happening at the same time SkyLOL

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though maybe they have weather machines up there in the clouds

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rain being a defense mechanism against enemies perhaps

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we do see spirits using umbrellas and running from the rain so when the bell towers ring in unison it stops the rain for a brief amount of time

crimson grove
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Jenova said sky is a spiritual sucessor to past games, I don’t think they’re happening at the same time/same universe

drifting copper
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shame :c

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would’ve been interesting lore wise and how they’d connect

crimson grove
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I think they still connect somehow aahhEyes

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Many similarities like the story arc, the enemies, the mountain...

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I’ve also seen some interesting theories with the broken structures in the vault looking the same as the ones from journey

drifting copper
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agreed

warped reef
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They do resemble the structures found in Journeys “vault” level. I always seem to find small connections to Journey whenever i’m in Vault aahhEyes

drifting copper
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maybe the parallel universes connected some time ago before the eden explosion seperated the two worlds pEyes

warped reef
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Yes! pEyes

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But that would mean all the levels are connected somehow pEyes

hexed turret
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And maybe that the journey boys people help constructed the vault

drifting copper
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ohohoho

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y e s

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especially since vault vault looks like the white being from journey

warped reef
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The vault elder do have some similarities to the caped journey people. That could be highly possible pEyes

hexed turret
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They want to pass down their traditions to the kingdom

warped reef
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They do have some similarities. It’s kinda crazy. Even vault elder clothes resembles the cloak a bit if I don’t remember wrong pEyes

drifting copper
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yup

warped reef
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Maybe the vault elder is a descendant of the Journey people

drifting copper
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perhaps

hexed turret
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We got the runes from parts of the vault

drifting copper
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or maybe an apprentice from one of the journey people

hexed turret
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like I said it could be that they passed down their traditions to the spirits

drifting copper
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the spirits are just chilling

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though yeah they did pass down traditions

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like the masks perhaps

hexed turret
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yep

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And the kingdom

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I wonder why that we get the knowledge from the journey boy

fiery condor
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Oo i was thinking, what if the spirits in vault or vault elder were like descendant/s of the people from journey, and yeah passing down the tradition until it reached the time of the recent vault elder

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Imo vault elder was the strangest to me even from my first impression from them. The hair, the mask and why in eden their eyes are closed (yes, I do know it was inspired by some mythology?), their actions, mainly when they were kissing (or whispering something) the diamond before releasing it through the air

drifting copper
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some people think vault vault loves the eden elder pEyes

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which was why they kissed it

ocean ivy
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I think whats strangest is the markings on the mask.
They don’t seem.. naturally put there? More like chipped away or damaged than painted on or something.

sand abyss
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yup looks like someone or something caused those damages to appear on Vault Elder’s mask

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or just terrible mask material wheeze

inland dune
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If we think about it, maybe since vault is in front of wasteland, someone got in, but that’s when the eden explosion happened

spring blaze
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what do yall think broke the isle gramps mask

inland dune
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Maybe Isle elder is the meaning of like, if someone helps you, try to see if you can help others

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Since we help him by giving him light, and he leads the birds to orbit

sand abyss
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For Vault Elder, personally i thought it might happen within the Vault itself, perhaps something with the Archives?

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As for Isle Elder, perhaps with the lack of lights, his mask slowly begins to crumble

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hence the mask falling to pieces and blinding him

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( and may evidence that with enough light sources he could repair his mask back into one piece, as seen in his cutscene )

inland dune
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Hmmm, makes sense that isle elder was lacking light, if you see the candle places in isle, there aren’t a lot

sand abyss
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mhm mhmm

spring blaze
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ironic cus its isle of dawn lol

ocean ivy
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It’s also a bit odd the vault elder rarely stands. They always are sitting minus the one part of the cutscene. Even in the elder hair part the elder is sitting. Maybe this also has to do with the mask? Maybe the darkness of Eden being so close to the vault had something to do.

exotic shuttle
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i had a random lore idea that i really like:
what if the entire game takes place inside the power diamond (the “eye” of eden), we children of light represent the power diamond gaining self-awareness, trying to understand itself by experiencing memories of the world

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to me this could explain how the forest temple is also the first krill room in wasteland, and how the vault elder statues appear in eden (only in ruins).

ocean ivy
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Maybe the vault elder serves as another ruler of sorts? Considering the Eden elder is arguably a “king” of all with the castle being there at the very top and last. The vault seems to be a part of that castle with the entryway from vault to Eden looking like castle corridors. It’s hard to tell considering Eden is in shambles however.

hushed steeple
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there’s a line from the japanese livestream that talks about the child’s mission is to return light that will return oshio. any japanese speakers know what the oshio reference means?

pure fjord
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I always thought of the vault elder as the head scholar of the archives/library/whatever-the-vault-holds

ocean ivy
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Google translate says salt so I have no idea.