#lore-discussion-spoilers
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Oh yeah! I can see that too.
Oooh
Honestly he just reminded me of the main characters in journey lol
I feel like the markings on vault elders mask weren't there when he was alive? Maybe he died and the markings from whatever might've killed him were left on the mask?
Here’s some fun trivia
The forest elder used to not be helpful
They would intentionally lead you astray in the vast forest
But that was smth that was only in concept sadly :/
:(((
They were a “shaman”
I always think about how it would be super interesting for that to happen
But they have their reasons for not going with it
if the forest was bigger and more vast and if that elder would try to lead your kid astray or lead you into trouble.
hm
yeah.
makes sense why they didn't do that ig
might've been more programming and game designing to do if they went with that.
I could imagine the concept forest elder standing in the middle of some mist beckoning the player.
I couldn't put that in my notes but they mentioned that in the Japanese livestream
Something like Forest Elder kidnapping children of light
Ooh!
Yeah 
yup!
FOREST ELDE RHWA T
forest elder no goodie
Makes sense! Forest elder leads the sky kiddos to d o o m
:0
sky kid soup
theyre eviiiilllllllll
well, was evil
it fits the kitsune stuff
not anymore it seems!
ya know
Yeah.
It would've been interesting story wise if she did try to kidnap your sky kid.
it would’ve been terrifying
i mean
kidnapping children to make diamond devices

take their e ss e nc e
O_O
scary
I remember reading that there was a war of sorts? it seems like it was hinted at that in wasteland.
yeah
mhmm
with the protectors
Battlefield Theories!
The wasteland peeps were probably warriors.
definitely
mayybe it war a war with another civilization or it was the krill.
the krill
well the most popular theory over here would be the two opposing sides battling each other
maybe the krill were creatures of war, the other side used but it got out of control and the krill said: "okay fellas lets just eat all."
who was the opposing though
mysteries..
exactly and that’s the questions many people ask
i have a hunch
Vault Elder like
“Yeahhhh imma skedaddle thank you very much”
the opposing was forest
Cause like, I thought he was a prince of sorts who went into hiding because of the war.
hmm
Seriously though the two shields theories
fighting for control of sorts
Maybe not,
and the connections between Forest and Wasteland
I think forest and wasteland used to be the same world
Or at least they use to be connected instead of having valley in the middle
Lemme explains
Maybe like they separated,
hmm would make sense for the locations for Wasteland and Forest to be close to each other
Forest temple and wasteland broken temple looks too much alike
Toxic water could be flooded rain
already had a comparison picture here lmao
scroll all the way up and
Plus... they both have crabs in common and stuff that can take away light
you’ll see the comparisons there
they separated because of differing ideals and somehow they managed separate it and make it segway towards valley instead
Since rain takes away ur wings it makes sense that it could be the water flooding wasteland
Yeah!
i wonder
hmm perhaps so
Toxic water dun dun dun
was valley made to distract other people of light about the war
maybe, Industrial toxic sludge.
It makes gross sounds when you jump in it
yup or at least some sort of polluted substance
Also there’s pipes oozing it everywhere
ugh gross sounds
that's why theres no life there
🤔
the sludge killed it all prolly
there’s also pipes in eden
mhmm but interesting thing tho is that why would there be pipes in the Battlefield?
the krill and crabs are creatures of darkness
if yall notice
Crabs managed to survive forest too
why are there pipes in general
The pipes made sludge prollt
probably for factory reasons ?
It emptied it out like sewage,
i also don’t understand the pipes in eden as well
WHAT IFF
New Hot Theory: WHAT ARE THESE PIPES FOR ?!
Those pipes r like sewage pipes for the dark sludge probablyy
lmaoo
factory reasons.
I think the pipes were there since before the battle(s)
FOREST BECAME VALLEY AFTER THE WATER FROZE AND THEN THE ICEBERGS MELTED AND EVERYTHING STARTED TO ERODE SO THEY USED PIPES TO FIX IT AND THEN EVERYTHING WENT WRONG
h
also gotta consider that everything over there are buried underneath the sands so
true
I feel like the pollution got out of hand cause nobody was there to stop it cause the war killed everyonee
i feel like isle may be somewhat close to home and mayybeee wasteland & forest cause its surrounded by water and wasteland in the ship place
lots of water/sludge
and at the end of forest before the elder temple theres a ton of water
yeah!
didn’t someone take a pic of the wasteland water while underwater
it was all
swirly
rainbow swirls
polluted really badly
(The water probably became polluted because nobody was around to regulate it,
The war killed all the current spirits and elder spirits. (Cause they're all dead.))
possibly
Did u notice that forest and wasteland both have crabs and a giant dark plant and lots of water AND A fireplace?
they were alive at one point'
spirits are just doomed to repeat their lives even in the grave
We're reliving their memories but have you seen the textures on their bodies?
Its all starry.
On the second picture... IS THAT A TREE STUMP?
Reminds of a place in forest with a fireplace
I'm pretty sure they'd be more solid if they were living.
the big table place
I think the reason why wasteland is so cloudy is cuz' pollution. I wonder why it doesn't acid rain tho'.
yeah!
Imagine if it was raining in wasteland too.
forest might’ve gotten all the acid rain
Brings it back to my point
darn the difficulty would be super hhh
transferring through the wind
yeah!
Flooded toxic rain from forest
it’s a low pH acid rain
But y is valley in the middle??
The toxic rain was prolly from wasteland.
i think wasteland was just valley at some point
Because forest elder might've maybe found a way to manipulate the clouds to redirect towards valley?
then it’s just oop da rk
it’s mostly clouds
so the water froze
due to the atmosphere temperature
true water comes from mountains
So if the first krill area is the temple from forest.. then the second krill area was the last area in forest? Or maybe we go backwards
????
no it’s a comparison boop
Ty lyst
I always thought that valley was made up of sand and ice... was it just me?
I always felt like it was just snow and rock
i think it was supposed to be an extension of forest or a completely different area for the production of diamonds??
But I bet it’s snow
diamonds were the downfall of their civilisation according to the notes or i probably read that wrong lmao
I feel like yeah!
prolly!
They went to war over it and it ultimately killed everyone.
ye s
Game theory!!
Anything similar?
not really
Nah
i think it’s a completely different place than what everyone’s been talking about
Hmmm.. what r the bones in wasteland?
I think both bones from forest and wasteland are krill bones.
aren’t the forest bones the fish one
For fish call yeah.
I thought they were whales
lmao
the bones at graveyard aren’t krill too
might be the megafish
I remember seeing something weird in the transition place from valley to wasteland and i saw it again in eden
also i realise the elders and their lands represent the rise and fall of civilisations! 😳
it was flying through the clouds

That!!
YOURE RIGHT
true on the whale
the whale knows somethjng we don’t
The whale has seen the fall of civilization
_tell us ol wise whale _
_tell us your secrets _!!!
hmmm i don’t think so but who knows
There seems to used to be a portal on the cliff in prarie's portal
yo skymii does my thing about wasteland being a diamond production site make sense or like pretty off lmao
Wait in the picture I showed u doesn’t the prairie take off spot look like the broken portal on isle of dawn??
and there seems to have used to been a portal in isle
and yeah! i feel like the heavy pollution i suspect to be there is cause of the diamond production
alleged diamond production
I can’t believe the forest elder is the start of the industrial revolution
wasteland is post global warming bro
well she was kidnapping sky kids to make her diamonds
Forest elder couldn't take the trees anymore and said: "I want to start the industrial revolution."
so o o p
dawn grandpa: emergence
butterfly big lad: trade
forest wife: industrial
sports twins: peak of civilisation/ merriment
wasteland himbo: war
vault lady: collapse
HDKDHDKDNF
WASTELAND H I M B O
THATS WHAT I CALL HIM
*wASTeLAND HIMBo8
KEHDJEDBDVDRB
WHEHDGGD
also vault might be something to do with keeping things safe
Vault elder I also call vault nerd
or secluded
I call vault elder "vault dad"
Ok but for the diamond production in Wasteland could be plausible
vault mOm
Valid!!
mOm
VAULT PARENT
I always thought they were a duDE
how about this
VAULT PARENT YAE
VAULT VAULT
VAULT VAULT
LIKE MOON MOON
🤝
i can live with that
VAULT VAULT
EXACTLY
yes
🤝
🤝
from now on we call Vault Elder, Vault Vault
today they will now be known as vault vault
yes
can we rename forest elder to child kidnapper
POST THICC
Thicknt
i thought vault vault was likeee this dood who was like "ok im gon just stay in here and be lonely and stuff and uhhhh spotlight moon light hghsghsgfd moon light"
YUGUYU
YES
YES
I leave for two hours and come back to Forest Karen stealing skykids 
skykidnapper

FOREST KAREN
JEHDJHDRJGDHR
OH NOOOO
FOREST KAREN
ThATS
NOT FOREST KAREN
forest karen a climate change denier
I’M WHE EE ZHSDHBD

I really want to draw Forest karen and Industrial revolution lady having a face off
Rough notes on the kidnapper from the Japanese livestream:
At that point the forest elder was a mean, mysterious, Sherman, a little scary character that would spirit away the players in the mazy forest.
Later in development, the children's purpose to bring back the stars became clear, and the children now have to save/help the elders, thus the elder(s) became non-evil.
But the forest elder remained somewhat mean. The devs call her "cool aunt"
“I DENY RESPONSIBILITY ON CAUSING CLIMATE CHANGE AND THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION”
jhgghgjkj
oh hell
forest aunt confirmed
We get some content and suddenly we go feral
basically yeah
Isle Grandpa
Prairie Dad
Forest Aunt
Valley Siblings
Wasteland Uncle (Tea Uncle best boi
)
Vault Mom
we were so hungry for content
Forest Karen: I would like to speak to your manager
Industrial Aunty: I AM THE MANAGER
we got so hungry we got forest elder kidnapping children for her diamond production
Forest Karen: I would like to speak to the manager
Forest Karen: Oh wait I AM THE MANAGER, DO YOUR DAMN JOB
and valley being a cover up
dhdhdhdhehe 
t h e l o n g h i a t u s
Bro he needs a physiotherapist
he deserves it man
That shield is so heavy
bro i have physiotherapy
the man needs it
his break is ||spending time with Kuku||
Give him some like passing the light
his posture must be so messed up
i wonder how long the war lasted
if ther e w a s a w a r
long enough to have a mural dedicated to it!
everyone literally has war theories but doesn’t even think about how long it lasted
murals hhhmmmm
probably a while then
must be tough
Who's making these murals anyway?!
suddenly forest karen whips out her stinky experiment : the krills
the spirits ?
Vault vault or the scholars there
probably both
Your race is exterminated, and you decide to paint?
using the last few diamonds to do something good with them
what do the vault archives hold though

Dead skykids
N O
WAIT QUESTION
boop isn’t that just the cry spirit
y do the elders need our light?
restore themselves
no i don’t think they would go that nuts to make murals
especially forest karen who doesn’t have a hearT
The murals in the vault cutscene are not actually in the Sky world
The elder cutscenes take place in somewhere beyond the time and space
The concept was to stop making them evil
but now it’s more like
Fixing what was broken
With da light
right
probably just some fellow spirits who wants to pass the stories through generations so the future peeps could see it
Did someone say Karen??
they probably made the murals to give a goal for the future generations
to restore their elders
back to the light
yes
forest elder is always mean wdym lmao
exactly
we talked about that a while ago btw so oof
she was like YOINK
no she’s just hungy
B-baka,, it’s not like I wanted your light or anything
Ok every connected world makes sense to me except for valley
Valley is just funny sports time
valley’s a cover up for wasteland
what else do you do when everything is perfect?
entertainment for the folks
Y IS VALLEY THERE THO
you play
LET IT BE THERE
Valley is slidey wheeee time!
AGHHJFSQF
Ye
oh yeah logan i have pics of the isle elder at orbit
don't forget how the valley elders literally snatch your light away and play with it like it's a competition
I saw them, don't worry 👌
It makes sense to go to prairie from forest because of the green island hidden in the clouds
cool cool
Btw I got a WIP art of forest wife 😳 but I don’t know what colour to make the diamond?? I’ll post it in art rn
I FEEL LIKE ITS TEAL/ LIGHT BLUE BUT ITS GREY IN THE CUTSCENE
i love them
And it makes sense to go from prairie to forest because of the cave area and the summoning Oreo area
BUT IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE TO GO FROM FOREST TO VALLEY
it makes more sense if it was forest to wasteland
IT’S BL U E
no it makes sense to go from forest to valley lmao
And from wasteland it makes sense to go to valley and the vault
The emotional/height map
Because valley has the floating thingie
Floating thingie
U know what I mean
the gold rings
i think it has a name but i forgot
I like the term floating thingie more
Thank

it’s an orrery
It called floaty thingy in dev notes as well

orrery ye s
Hmmm also!
What about the floaty thingy? Why'd it come up?
Vault and valley both start with a V!
several people are typing
Jkjk they both have mazes
I was gone for like 2 hours and I see 500+ messages
that’s how it works
Lore-d hard in this mutha
Usually it’s like 2 days and 8 messages 😂
So doesn’t it make more sense if we went from valley to vault?
we talked about wasteland being diamond production site, forest elder kidnapping children and such
Need a lull in the emotional arc
Kidnapping children
When did I miss this
Why did I miss that conversation!?
It was hinted that when u transition worlds, there’s no proof that u are moving in a straight timeline
i think i accidentally made the chat lively so that’s why there’s a lot of messages
Serval people typing the calm before the storm
Id dp hf vt gw vk
Lets blame you, I agree
the calm before the storm indeed

It’s spells nothing
wait what does the lore chat rarely talk about
Quick, what normally sends people running from this chat?
we keep going back to wasteland
Boats!!! More boat talk!

true
I'd say the level layout is fine the way it is 
Isle goes upwards a tiny bit into prairie, prairie then goes up to the drop into the forest, the end of the forest sends you super high up to the start of valley, which is really just the slope of a mountain and not an acutal valley itself, then it falls down into the wasteland (the true valley in terms of geography), and then we use the vault tower to get close to the summit of eden and we take our climb to the very top
BOATS U SAY?!
BOATS
I like boats
Y E S
can we just talk about why there are more boat pieces popping up in prairie
@green pine fits!
yup 
And really, if anyone has a higher res, pls up!
Isle of dawn= baby, daylight prairie=pre teen, hidden forest= teen years, wasteland= adulthood midlife crisis and sadness, vault of knowledge=elderly

ghghg
I always have a midlife crisis
Honestly Vault elder doesn't look very old though.
Must be why that place is my favourite
That’s because they can turn back time ooooo
Funny, Vault is the only area where the height doesn't match the emotion
if they could they wouldn't be in this whole mess 
They knew Vault was going to be boring from the start 
Goodnight gtg 

well, vault is simultaneously near the top and a the bottom
at the bottom because of physical and mental health problems as an elderly, but near the top because it's the final point before death, the culmination of all the things you've done and learned
valley are the youngest
they aren't sized by age alone, they're all vastly different from each other in ways where age isn't the main thing playing into size
true
It's that age's perception of adults? Right?
Prairie dad is how all dads look to kids
Most in common with the player's supposed age?
skykids don't really have an age of sorts, or at least they can't undergo physical aging
we’re all baby yoda
ffjgkhjhfhgj
yall better have some good theories when i come back shdhdhbd
in hmm.. vases
those pots..
Those pots are everywhere.
And butterfly dad's pots in his temple place unleashed those light butterflies
ooh yeah!
I think he might be a repairman
cause of the boat.
makes sense!
don’t think so
i think there's a boat or two in Eden
two (or one split into halves) in the social area
I remember no boat in the krill areas
hmmm yeah might have to recheck eden again
There’s a boat to the right in the first area
yeah
Well,, skmewhere to the right at the start of an area I forget
if you go astray just after the gate you will see one
No this ones in pretty good condition actually
What are moths?
New players
Is that term of endearment? Or not so much?
Yes
Well i'll repeat my theory.
so like, Wasteland and forest may be connected, They share similar architecture and creatures minus the krill.
I believe Wasteland looks the way it does because:
The war killed all the now spirits in wasteland and their factory producing diamonds kept making waste and pumping it out like sewage, and because its been a long long time all the water has turn't to polluted sludge, The sludge could be related to the dark creatures. Hence why Krabs aren't damaged by the dark sludge and why krill possibly aren't affected.
Wasteland probably looked like Forest prior to the industrialization and war and was connected, They cut down all the trees to make way for their temples and monuments and yeah!
it looks like theres a very large tree stump up near where you spawn in wasteland which may or may not be a tree stump. it could just be a rock formation but eh.
(sorry for repeating terms egsdhg)
A second theory for where things are located.
I believe isle is located not too far from home, because I'm certain you can see isle off to the distance past the portals to the different kingdoms.
isle may be located not tooooo far but far from Forest & wasteland cause of the water. But that might be a stretch, Though we know that Prarie is close to Isle.
@shy kiln we call them moths because they have clumsy flying and brown wings
Also, valley is using the power diamonds as well and I believe that was when they thrived, they used the power diamonds and bc of how much they did, they had fun with games and arenas
(I meant I accidentally mislead newbies to the wrong route when I tried to take a screenshot of the boat in Eden)
Here's another boat (or two) which is in the social area
oo! Yeah! the power diamonds probably helped them have their races and games
I wonder if there were a lot of spirits before the death of like all of them where are they?
Cause in the valley races theres cheering
i dont do the races often tho' so i may be qerfesdgf
but like wheres the cheering comin from and are there a whole load of spirits we never got to interact with
what makes the spirits right now so special that they're the ones we see and relive memories of
and these spirits, what were they when they were living? Did we relive the most influential non-elder spirits?
I thought it was an illusion 
Like it’s a windy location
I wonder if you play with the breeze just right
It sounds like cheering
huh
Like
people make sound with the wind all the time 
There was this monument somewhere that made music with the wind
Oh I’m talking about the cheering in valley!!
:0
HSKSJD VALLEY NOT VALUE
I always thought the cheering was genuine and there were a multitude of other spirits watchin the race!
in v a l u e
NSKSJSKJSS
value of triumph
i gotta draw thattt xbddsfgds
i can imagine them working in a supermarket for some reason
though anyways, if there were more spirits past the initial like 37?? there are in the story part of the game right now that'd open so many new opportunities for the new emotes people are suggesting.
im gettin tired so i might get sloppy typing safdgbfw
well each season they introduce additional spirits to us
true
though what if there were other kingdoms, I remember someone suggested something be done with the vast ocean/water we have in sky.
I personally think it's unlikely they gonna add new levels/kingdoms
they will add new areas tho, and maybe new normal spirits
About the transportation of light creatures/diamonds,
Maybe the pipes were also used to transport diamonds?
the diamonds were set to the golden octagonal thingy which could then fly inside the pipes
yes wind can make sounds like laughter, cheering and others i forgot
:O
i was scared of the strong winds for that lmao
with the really really strong winds in valley it might be the wind bro
hell yeah
the other kingdoms theory is why I made fan elders!!
Olympia, Azure and Yves
lost kingdoms cri
(If anyone wants to see them I can dm ) 
If u stand next to the valley portal u can hear the cheering
To avoid confusion I jus told myself that it’s the voices of the passed spirits
So basically, the elders are gamers who mine diamonds 💎
well they ma d e diamonds
Omg they are on creative mode
lmao
@finite onyx That area where you meet the first krill is a destroyed version of the forest temple. I originally thought they were playing a mind-game with that. Like that it was the same level, just later on in time.
So we back in the mine
aw man
if you ever ventured to the oob in the valley, you will find another arena but destroyed.
and a wasteland vortex without the clouds
so
Hypothesis: All maps are actually built from the same basic map with a water as the bottom
The sky kids are just witnessing the ruins of each stage of development of the same place?
most likely
Do you think they harvested the mantas in forest, since the machine to do that is there, or did they transport some to wasteland - hence the lonely lost manta who must have escaped one horrible fate for another?
I wouldn't say horrible! We're just taking their excess light, depriving them of life.
@worthy cipher the second arena was used for the valley cutscene, they had to put it somewhere
Oh god, that gear spinny top thing in the forest temple, is that like a grindstone for light? Like you know how they grind wheat between stones to get to the grain inside? They grindin' butterflies and birds and stuffs?!
To get to the juicy light nougat inside?!
Yeah I believe so, Drap.
This leads me to another thought. How did the mantas get trapped in dark plants? Unless the light harvesting doesn’t kill the creature, but weakens them to the point they are exhausted and discarded outside the temple.
Then they are still enough for dark plant to take hold and grow, trapping them.
Or, more likely, now that I think about it, a pumping station
You know, it’s all so much darker than it appears from the surface. Some of these things people have theorised, that are substantiated by pretty damning evidence...
Part of me thinks the manta just tried to fly through the plant but soon found it was a horrible mistake
maybe the ones stuck managed to escape a bad fate
wait
is that why there’s one manta guiding us through the forest
TO SAVE THEIR FAMILY AND FRIEND
PLURAL F R I E N D S
Mantas in the forest like to come over to recharge your cape :>
Mantas are nice
I feel so sad right now. The mantas are such wonderful creatures.
The cry spirit, has that friend trapped in darkness, and the whale bones are covered in darkness. I think it's decay
mantas are wonderful and nice aaa
Would you say the little black orbs that grow on us in Eden are darkness?
I think the butterflies etc were processed in forest. And wasteland. The vault mural shows the big light creatures being harvested, so I think the creatures were transported to vault for processing. And once their light had fully been harvested, they became the ghost (space) mantas
Hello!
we only scratched the surface for sky
Are you all talking about theories.
yup
?*
Oh dear lord I'm headtrippin hard right now
this is the theory/lore channel
I have a theory!
people usually talk about wasteland but they don’t talk about the rest hhhhh
I just found something out, When the valley of triumph intro when the race was about to start.
It said: Race down the ridge, and the city gates will open to honour you.
By city, I think it meant the Golden wasteland.
Before it was a wasteland.
I mean can make a theory about why there's harmful rain in forest.
Well, Wasteland has these mysterious vibes that you know, interest to many people ( myself included
)
Also, when eden broke apart. The krills broke free. (If that is possible, that would lead to corruption right?)
To the large sky fish.
harmful rain is because of acid rain
Wasteland - They harvested mantas, whales, etc like Forest. But they tried to pull as much light as possible from the creatures... And went to far. They removed all light from these creatures and created, you guessed it, Krill. That temple was destroyed from the inside out!
someone already talked about it earlier so oof
I mean can basically talk about the world being a post apocalypse.
After global warming.
/s
yeah the world is basically post apocalyptic after a suspected war
=
?
with industrial revolution in forest and my random theory about wasteland being the place for diamond production
Vault - They found a way to harvest just enough light to prevent them from turning into Krill. Turning them into ghost mantas
hmmm
Why diamonds?
i remember the whale/fish bones
What do you mean?
Specifically.
kimchi the sky world is powered by the power diamonds i think is invented by the forest elder herself
True.
But mention the daylight prairie elder.
That elder did make the butterflies right?
prairie elder helps with transporting the butterflies by putting them in jars
Would that also help with the power to?
he probably did but i’m not sure
So as the vault elder?
yeah if we talk about the animal cruelty of taking the light from mantas
You see the vault is nothing but just broken and ruined right?
I think the vault has only limited light to those who survive and come through the wasteland?
Because, it makes sense. After I looked around. There was no light, just the entire thing in ruins.
And the entrance to Eden. It’s similar to the temple in journey.
But just the entire thing in ruins.
yep
Which Journey temple?
The temple of knowledge?
Also, I suggested that the glow spell should be a ball of light
Not really, remember the first start scene?
she’s the only one who was expecting us
So the character we were playing, was the survivors of eden.
Think about that, if we had a sort of parent from the sky children, wouldn’t they cast them off for them to survive?
Oof brb
2020 is here!
sky kids are always sky kids
no parents
however many centuries pass they’re forever sky kids
we can’t be survivors of eden we would be more traumatised and not confused on what the world around us is lmao
my opinion though
Oh right...
What if the the woman at the start who made the stars / constellations.
she didn’t i’m pretty sure
Used the light she had to revive one of the child.
the fallen stars were the elders
and they built a home in the clouds
something happened and someone summoned the sky kids to come
Oh.
gets overlooked at first lmao
Hiding in a wall of fear- 
i still don’t understand what the opening meant when it said “but they didn’t listen”
from the stars that didn’t fall
So, that is might be the reason they only appear on the light.
hmmm
Asking, if you were an elder. Who would you match the most?
I match the daylight prairie elder the most I guess for meh...
i a m m e a n
lmao
i also experiment a lot with life but not to the point of causing manipulation to things around me
What would happen if the daylight prairie elder pranked the forest elder?
so yeah that’s why i’m like both forest elder but not forest elder
oh she’d be mad
hella
ma d
especially since they’re trade partners
Daylight prairie elder: Dumps an entire bucket of butterflies on her.
forest elder: You just wasted perfectly good light sources for my diamonds’ power
Daylight prairie elder shrugs
(Valley of triumph elders come in and hit a ball on her head-)
more like paddles
Where is the new hidden level? Is it in the forest?
cause spoiler i guess
Hmm it’s ok just be mindful that this channel is not for the general gameplay questions ( for this is a lore/theory channel ) so best to ask at #questions-and-help ! @old night
Ah ok thanks
You’re welcome !
Also hmm.....
good question actually... i don’t think so but who knows
might be because
the spirit that had the butterfly jar on their back
was it multiple spirits that had that idk sudhdjhdhd
Would anyone want to try and dm me a brief version of the lore at the moment?
second that^
I would like to have already existing ideas presented in the lore on some kind of document or something
Slavery in Sky? 👀
yeah 
👁️👄👁️
we piecing this together
first industrial revolution and animal cruelty now slavery
why does it sound like something abraham lincoln did
Wut
Eden and wasteland resemble factories with wasteland having a lot of pipes and eden having you climb up a building that looks like a factory
Slavery might be why they got corrupted
Check the pins @wise crater and @worthy cipher
Not sure how up to date it is but people have been collecting all the lore into a document for easy reference.
Happy New Year, Chee.
Happy New Year to you too fellow lore seekers
( oh my lord the name so cheesy yet i love it )
Anyhow New Year meaning potentially new lores/contents
~~ wonder how the devs think of all these theories we had over here...?~~
we all went nuts ever since this channel was made
went 
😂 lol
Ok sky historians what the hecc is this symbol?
that would be the countdown/time to the rainbow
hmm i think so, haven’t really visit over there so might have to see what others had to say
For all i know if it’s some sort of a time for certain to appear
so 5 pm PST right ?
ahhhh so it’s either way really huh
hmm if i have to say about what my favourite theory is from 2019.... ( ~~ coughs, i’m commenting from the fuuuUuTutreee hehee, aka 2020~~ )
Definitely has to be the Two Shields Theory. Since that as soon someone ( or at least a handful of people ) mentioned about the presence of these shields, more people start to take notice of them and decide to expand the theory, which I love about.
Something about this particular theory made me questions so much about the history of Sky Kingdom like, what are the connections the six realms had with each other? Are these shields belong to one group or two opposing sides? And if the opposing sides the case then why do Wasteland Elder has one shield in his shrine but the other at the Vault Elder’s Cutscene murals ( aka which side is he really on? )
[ Oh man there’s so much more questions but don’t wanna flood this channel too much so that’s all i could say ]
Despite not really relating to the premise of the game which is children with flight abilities and having to build bond through altruism ( and many other social interactions). But hey! Its something I personally enjoy seeing people here having fun with the theory. Especially since the theory went off the roof for almost the end of last month, December!
welp imma rest but if anyone has their personal favourite theory from 2019 just comment righhht over here 👀!
A bit back in this thread somebody mentioned (I think it was @modest sequoia ) harvesting the the mantas and butterflies for light and storing it in the vault. Is that why the shelves are filled with light bottles? I also found an empty one. Some have one light and others have two. Bottles filled with manta and butterfly juice aaaahhh 🤔😰
If you opened the bottles could you drink memories and knowledge?
H i
i think it was a mixed of people who mentioned that but yeah that’s probably where they store light
since in the vault archives you had to relight ones that have been open or had gone out
@sand abyss I was a crazyyyy fan of the war theory and I have been crazy over it for sooo long and all the evidence I had made sense but......one thing we always ignored is that the weapons are way too big for spirits to use, only the wasteland elder is big enough to wield those weapons so to be honest I don’t know what to say about it anymore 😔
I think the sky ppl store info in the lamps in the vault
equivalent of books
@drifting copper
hmmm
but how exactly-
i think they’re more like power generators since we keep seeing them used to activate something like the diamond elevator mechanism in the vault
If u look at the vault mural u can see the mantas being transferred into those lamps
😖
🤔
What is this yellow pot for in the vault,
I found this and I have no clue what it does.
It’s just there.
Wow ur outfit is.....different
Bc it was a review of the chibi-
And there’s no actual game mechanic for that pot but I always wondered why it was there
This is meh real of
Ik
Also, did you notice when you give your light to the children and you lose your light.
mysterious vase what it does, nobody knows
yeye i like that detail
I heard about that too but I need to go to eden to see it
Anyone here played journey?
Idk if this is lore or an Easter egg but out of all my time of playing this game I never noticed the smiley face behind the shrine in the prairie temple
GOd that is creepy-
:)
Wait, I think I know the reference.
And no I haven’t played journey, only seen a few clips and screenshots of it
Journey is on my “MUST PLAY” list
Last time I played journey, there was the final level where I had to die, same as ascending.
I had a friend too which had the same robe as mine.
Tgc loves to make their characters die in the end
And when we died, I think 7 of the white robes appeared,
So, it’s something like that reference.
Also, they die because it’s a journey to life,
Ye
I heard the game was more about the journey rather than the destination to that giant mountain thingy
Eden.
Also there are creatures that are similar to krill in there I believe.....
Guardians
Did you know, reversing the sentence “A nut for a jar of tuna” Will still be the same sentence
HUH 🤨
off topic but a confusing fact
Ik
ohhh I see it now
Anyways, can I friend you all in sky just saying OwO
I read it as
tuna of jar a for nut a
oof
we gotta start theories on that gold pot
it looks familiar outside of the vault but idk fake memory
lol I made a post about in on reddit earlier 🤣
Does anyone else ever think that the bleachers in the beginning of the valley races are a bit weird? Like imagine being part of the audience and you’re sat there and then the racers just zoom past and that’s it. You don’t see them again. It makes me feel like the valley races were never built to be races. In the skating race I think the whole thing is supposed to be a massive ruined part of the city that has been covered in snow,; the other buildings remain because they are higher up. Also this skating race part of the city may’ve had a long street going from the beginning, all the way to the coliseum (I like to imagine it’s a pretty important street and they held mini parades for athletes on their way to the coliseum). The flying race may have been more practical. Because there are clouds everywhere, and candle wax at the entrance, it could be used to transport goods with boats, but somehow the clouds got mixed into the city, leading into the coliseum. Idk the races just seem too odd to me :/
Omg what if during the Eden disaster, the clouds started to shift, making the big boats crash into the city, causing it to crumble?!
I never though the bleacher weird because people irl do enjoy having a glance at a long race.
But I did imagine the courses were originally not made for races, because there are too many ordinary-looking buildings along the way. The course of the skating race looks like an old river to me
but I also thought that the course was too steep for a river and so I never mentioned it in this channel
Probably !!! But also those bleachers look a bit more serious than a quick glance. I mean there are important looking golden statues and everything. A river also makes sense since it could’ve been a river also made for boats
Oh oof
Nvm😂
geologically speaking valley is usually formed by running water, so maybe!
Mhm!! I just support the idea that it’s not supposed to be a race lol
Yes! I am really happy to know that there's someone who thought the courses were not used for racing in old days
And yes! you can see diamonds on the boats!
Hmm ITS ALMOST AS IF THEY USED DIAMONDS AS A POWER SOURCE
They do
and the paddles were attached to the diamonds on the boats
Just like in the movie Atlantis
Everything is powered by diamond
JUST LIKE IN ATLANTIS
I never seen that movie but that's on my must-watch list because of this channel
Everything is also destroyed by diamond
Also.. send a picture of an elder I want to point out something
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1yXhDxZPUl--eOgY7oR87KAoLoVQlD-22you here you can see the boat moving (the video is taken by kampai)
the diamonds on elders chests?
Idk were to find a picture
any elder?
Yes
Ren have made a video of all the elders cutscenes https://youtu.be/F45tApENkew
a screenshot from the video
Thank u
NOTICE something STRANGE?
This is a sky kid
Look at our head
THERES A DIAMOND
Look at that elder
He looks ded inside
Anyone want to try and figure out the elder names with me? 😳
BUT NOT ONLY THAT
😳
They don’t have a diamond like ours
I named the golden wasteland elder Orion.....bc of the constellation
We are......emotionless kids sent to do a mission
Who sent us?
The narrator at the beginning
We can’t see or eat or smell
MAYBE WE ARE BEING CONTROLLED
by us** from the other side of the screen
Maybe sky kids are robots but we are their new souls
LETS GO
I’m not sure if the beard signifies isle grandpa or the secondary location of the guy signifies the butterfly big guy
does it go Aylin -> Tsadi or Tsadi ->Aylin
😳
LIKE ARE WE LOOKING AT BODY SHAPES/ DEFINING FEATURES OR KINGDOM LOCATIONS
Something I noticed earlier, the concert elder names are just Hebrew letters in the alphabet
The last two are wasteland elder and vault elder
That top left pic, it’s hard to tell which elder is which but all I know is that teth is the forest elder
but Lamed resembles the earlier vault elder
Alef is the first
the one in the center
probably the eden elder, the king
Eden elder in the middle right?
The old prairie symbol looks almost like this one......kinda




