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broski pls..,
Maybe he switched sides
maybe maybe
oh???
oh btw the forest constellation in a ver of beta is a diamond
like straight up what you drew up there
And on his mural he is leading soldiers and they have diamond shields as well.....unless they are about to backstab him but most likely they are being led by him
the constellation for waste is the diamond shield

bruh
10:56:34
thats it
hmmm maybe instead of opposing sides it just two symbols for the same thing? both related to light
But as u guys can see that’s the same symbol as the one on the shields and on the elder’s forehead plate. Anddd its on the wasteland masks
hm perhaps so
I want to think that but
if its not the opposing side
then maybe its something else
like you know with the krills ordeals
There’s battle barricades and weapons are piercing shields
I used to believe they were fighting krills too but....there’s no sign of any krill bones at all
yeahh
here’s an interesting shield guide
And u might say “weLL mAYbe kriLlS wErEnt kiLlEd dURing The bATtLe” well why would there be battle barricades there if krills fly and if ur alsoooo gonna say “weLl krIlSS hAVe nO bOnEs” I’m gonna throw my phone and give up

ya the barricades on ground wouldnt stop krilss from flying over it haha
yeah im sticking with the opposin side theory for now X'D
Also, the lookout spirit cutscene shows him looking behind him and going “oh noooo” and then he blows his horn
i mean just looking at it, there's so many potential connections with it
This....made me think that he saw an army coming and he blew the horn to warn everyone
anyone theorized what the other castle looking building in battlefield is
what different ones
you have the screenshot right?
im just askin if theres any theories on what the castle looking building in battlefield is, where the lookout spirits in
as for the similarities between the first krill room and the forest temple (the gold diamonds, the staggered building in the center, the rotating diamond columns in the doorframe, the giant hallway with repeating structure supports followed by a slope, etc), while there'sa lot of connections, I don't think they're the same place in two points in time
Things like the wasteland area being surrounded by an ocean, differences in the above room, the forest and wasteland elders clearly being aroud at the same time as each other due to their thrones at the end of vault and their faces in the eden gate, all that stuff
I imagine the two rooms just happened to have similar architecture, which isn't a rare thing for societies to have
yeah theres the temple then the castle lookin building
Hm
Maybe just a building that was destroyed by the war?
I might take another look there
theres a lot of valley architecture in buildings outside of valleys too
the castle looks,, sunken?? imo
So I’ll go back
I'm omw there now

Krill got nothin
uh dont.. get sand in ur hair
Update: not getting krilled, getting crabbed
dont get crabbed’
I like getting crabbed
One time a crab charged and me and 💨 I FLEW ACROSS THE WHOLE MAP
And then my game crashed
But it was awesomeee
As soon as I finish rebirthing to get my buffs back Ima go through my screenshots and vids from losing stars to krills to get some measurements on them 
also fun fact it's possible to go to 0 health in orbit, but you don't lose any stars or get sent to the shadow realm
I've done it before but sadly didn't have it recorded, and it's a nightare to reporduce, practically luck-based
This building thing is sunken into the swamp
you have to slam really hard into walls a lot
Ahhh barricades
And there’s the famous diamond shield and sword
Hmmm ur right it does look like a castle
And the shields with spears here, perhaps this is where one group was able to hold a line?
Diamond symbol on the wall reminds me of Forest elder’s mask
There’s more like that
In the battlefield there are more shields getting pierced by weapons
Sorry it takes a while to get screenshots over here, I have to email them to my phone because the files are too big to send thru my tablet
Are all the shields pierced ones with the sun symbol?
That one has a sun, yeah
There's another in the bg in that pic
Also with a sun I think
we NEED a waste expedition
the one Ginsy posted with the diamond shield doesnt get pierced https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632004389137154048/637661298443943946/image1.jpg
Must’ve been one heck of a battle bc if u look at the weapons...WELL THEY ARE HUGE
Yesss yes
the spirits are pretty big in height
Since ur rose’s friend and I see u on this chat everyday
ya loll
Wanna send a qr
sadly im only on to like get the dailies then bolt cus im lazy ;-;
sure, ill send one over
what if instead of there being a potential war happening there between groups it was still just the spirits trying to survive against the krill and they used spears to keep the shields lodged in place to be permanent cover from the krill~
there's supposedly no krill bones we can see anywhere in the game
dont know if krill even have bones to begin with?
The patterns on these gates are the same (sorry vot is hard to see)
shrimp don’t have bones
Because krill have an exoskeleton trust me I asked if they had bones and got yelled at
Even if they had no bones they have no remains at all
sounds about right
Krill have knees and you can pry this knowledge from my cold dead hands
Mini frog thank u for pointing that out I actually needed that
But anyways
Even if they are fighting krill
they don’t really have the.. best defense
those gate patterns are in a lot of places
Barricades on ground through a wrench in it
Why would spears be piercing shields
They just that strong man
But I guess since the krill charge downwards, hiding behind the barricades would still help
Im in the Christmas office NOW ....how to get spirit or it’s a big?
barricades on the ground, swords??? spears sure but they probably arent strong enough to pierce thru krills unless they throw nice and sharp
they could use the spears to lodge the shields into the ground and keep them propped up
And yes those battle barricades wouldn’t do much at all
for cover from the krill's sight
Nani the krill and krabs are intelligent enough to use spears and possibly other weapons in battle?!?
If a krill charged down into the barricade it could do some damage
@tidal lava best to ask at #questions-and-help since this channel mostly for lores
why would krill be targetting the temple anyway
@sand abyss ....but isn’t that a spoiler?
Targeting the elder??
ingame they dont seem to be targetting it, only like. area scan
they can go through the world (at least for game mechanic purposes) so really the best way to stay safe from krills is to hide behind cover
You can spoiler tag your questions in #questions-and-help
This is more for lore discussion that has spoilers than all spoiler discussion
U don’t need to spoiler tag anything here
Ok ....||like this||...???
Well they hunt light so chances are ,, something important was once there? Wasteland is sort of a last wall befor e the vault which is POWERED entirely by light so maybe
Krill would explain how this gate got blasted open. Unless fireworks are capable of doing this or the spirits had cannons or something
yep hammers
Mhmm just like that Hammers
well, we have a catapult.. 
F i r e w o r k s
Yea,,
That was a fun thing added by one of the devs
a lone catapult though
FIREWORKS ARE DESTRUCTIVE OKAY
We should have a season on the history of the realms
So we won’t have to argue all the time
Lol
There are catapults, but both of them seem pretty stationary
Lore seekers LoreSeekers LORESEEKER-

Gasp
LORESEEEKERSS
YES
season of lightseekers loreseekers
HEHEH
Season of history?
tgc give us history season
Yeyeye
The symbol for the season is just 
A HISTORY BOOK
Big question mark
Screams of suffering because there are so many possible theories call
HDJDJ
Ooo
I love. Making theories I don’t come here often enough

'cause it's a big question whether or not the constelation info on released spirits are true or not 
not all, tgc aint that generous
K fine
I like the seasons because it gives a little more insight to how life was when everyone was alive, nice speculation tools
But it would be nice if we had some questions answered
I think the devs said the seasons are supposed to shed light on the realms and paste of the spirits in a stream
Lmao this channel actually gives me incentive to go places other than the dailies
yeah. like this season gave us families
Like wasteland cough cough*
that's how tgc rolls
seasons are part of lore afterall
Familieeeeeeesss
Lightseekers one pretty interesting
Unlike journey where they spoon fed all the lore to us
i love the waste seasonal, so dramatic haha
I missed gratitude and winter
yeah the wasteland seasonal spirits take the cake for me
well winter is comin back so never fear
I was new during lightseekers and didn’t really pay attention to the spirit stories a,, I missed it all
the livestreams have been great at confirming and denying details and getting other info that seems small at first but is quintissential for other things
And everyone thought wasteland spirit had a crab pet 😂
nah he was def gonna eat him haha
Crab barbecue
i mean come on, he was bringing it back to the crab roast! and the emote is called dont go 
He just wanted to feed his family 
Crab dad just want to eat crabs
🍽 🦀
Heck heck heck. Someone let the krill loose
like them saying how while the stuff in the office isn't canon, they specifically told us that the scaling for skykids in it was, meaning everything was made to-scale and was intentional, which let me make the irl skykid height chart
crabpa
Crabs eat us, why can’t we eat them
i thought u could use the mac monitors used there haha
they don't eat us, they eat our light
aka us since we’re children of the light
I mean someone sent the chart earlier and I learned my kid is literally so small like half my size I m gonna cry they are so small
they eat our light
It’s not like we can eat their light cuz they have no light.....so how about we just eat them
I made the chart 
not the original image that compared the sizes to each other, but I made the edits that show their irl sizes
Well technically we don’t eat them
The spirits do
Sky kids don’t need to eat
skykids can't eat, no matter what the iPhone stickers try to tell you
Yes
doesn't mean we can't still have fun with headcanons
ssHH let me believe
its there for gags
PFPFPFPF
Skykids eat batteries confirmed
They dont eat
That looked sarcastic
They absorb
You heard it here first
i showed my mom the oreo sticker and she got happy and pointed at it and said our dogs name lol
Ultimate theory: the basis of Sky is the dream of a sentient candle based from the end credits
OMG YES IT DOES EAT OUR BATTERY

confirmed: sky is just a vivid daydream a candle is having
aight time to measure krills now
Yes n
Don’t lose stars
the candle just want to be human
excuse me while I comb through screenshots and individual frames
or at least wanting to fly
candle: become human
I already got the pics and vids
Ohgod Logan please I have pictures saved
from going capeless
OH good
I just need to analyze them
Ever seen a....wingless chibi 😂
I was also able to do the impossible and cross the jellyfish bridge alone while capeless
Has anyone thought of what this is yet? The light over there keeps blinking like a lighthouse
OH I - SAw a capeless tall boy in home when I was with Pyro-
that was me lmao
I was trying to get to home island but pyro doesn't have warp with me
You didn’t light my candle how dare
oh that light is just a lighting bug/glitch/error thing. theres nothing there
A
blink blink
Someone posted a video of the light! It’s a meditation circle
My actual body wasn't at the island, it was out in the ocean
Wow jus crushed my dreams
Oh dang
from that angle it looks more like a sinking building than an island
maybe sea levels rised
Let me see if I can find it it was posted on reddit
There is is, blinking and then u say it’s a glitch 😔
Oh yea that Definetly happened
we dk if the sea levels been the same
Wait the meditation circle is from the ship, I’m talking about the building at the back
And if u zoom in u can see the light mini frog was talking about
who is mini frog I Am Dying
Mini want frog
A
But if it is a glitch
I guess another dream was crushed 😔
Thank you ansolas!
Np!
ah its still something bugged/glitch anyway
maybe its like, idk, for the sit prompt in that statue at shipwreck
Oh my gosh
I have never seen a sky kid zoom so fast before 💨
And how the IFBEVEJRJEB did boo get over there in the first place
Oh wait I didn’t read the bottom caption
Nevermind
I’m dumb
Alright everybody, using my skykid's current height (one step above default) I have found the size of Krills!
They're 6'2" tall at the body and a whopping 69'8" long from eye to tailtip!
YEEEE
21m
Long long boi
o_o yup, 21 metres indeed

and they're just a foot taller or so compared to the average human, excluding their legs
“69’” coincidence I think not
lol
nice
They knew exactly what they were doing when they made it that long
geniunely will make people cry in pure fear
if krills exist with those height and length
Oml, i cant backread, cause its totally flooded
But 1 question
Who is this “king” and “queen”
You guys refer too?
*to
there isnt a queen mentioned at all in the concept arts and ingame, its just a theory if there was one to exist
the king isnt ingame anymore either, but he was pretty prominent im the concept arts (check the pinned msgs here for the concept arts albums if ur interested). we dont really know his role, but he's involved with eden
there's king symbols and structures scattered throughout the game though. he doesnt exist physically ingame but hes there in the environment
Oooh nice, ty
though in the image, the krill's head is turned slightly to the right, so it could be a few inches to a foot or so longer, but nonetheless it's a long boi
a very long boi that could carry a lot of skykids on its back
yis
a very long boi who can swim
btw my grandpa kid here is about 3'4" high (102 cm) according to the logan's chart
tiny kids would be sooo cute
Somehow I always thought they were as high as real grade school children, so the heights on the chart were shorter than I expected. They're as tiny as human babies and infants
I've been in my old elementary school for thay past few months and let me tell you, theyre TINY as heck
アカサか
Well I only saw the chart of average heights of kids
like, chibi 2'3" is as tall as a 7-8 months old baby
We are walking infants
📛👶 babies rule!
babies~
@sly kestrel there mining in isle
@•.GalacticEve.•#3253 we see that candles aren’t included in the memories in the raise candle spirit cutscene
...Didn't see the first krill for about a half an hour. Blue-eye. 69-footer. You know how you know that when you're in the wasteland, Chief? You tell by lookin' from the eye to the tail...
@spring blaze thé broken temple is in the first wasteland area after the vortex with message candles 100% but in game text descriptions may not be canon
We were told in a livestream that we call grandma that because she looks like it to us, so in game text isn’t necessary canon
ah
@sand abyss the sun symbol on the circle shields is different from the Praire/closet/mural symbols. There’s the sun shield symbol and the god/flame/something symbol in the intro
Guys you know how the whale has some bone or whatever its face is made of?
ya
Idk if this is something buuut
Placoderms are what those species are called irl
Exactly what i was gonna say XD
The Dunkleosteus...
But with horns lol
And not deadly
D: I just came in and saw THAT
eye bones
DD:
What is that?
E Y E B O N E S
I love how hage jus crushed all of our theory dreams
Hhhh
hes like.... one of the most active imo
Welcome to the club
Lol
I wonder like we have the Dunkleosteus looking boi
And giant sea turtle skull at the WL
The sea turtle might be prehistoric looking?
I love theorie s but am never active here aa,, I’m a little nervous so I settle for sharing in smaller servers 
There used to exist one so i was wondering by any change if any other prehistoric creatures live in the sky kingdom but again thats me XD
e-eye bones ?!!
Im kinda obsessed with prehistoric creatures soooo lol
Especially repilian ones...
I’m p sure there used to be a lot of different creatures we don’t know about yet
Oooh yea we see the turtle like skulls in boneyard, they probably existed but we never see them in game
👁☠️
prehistoric creatures are lit
I was actually gonna draw what the turtle would look like lol
im obsessed with dinosaurs send help
We can do it together 
In my perspective of course cri
@spring blaze one day we are gonna make an amazing theory, with amazing evidence and HAGE IS GONNA LIKE IT, AND AGREE WITH IT
Lmao
Lol
I love how the excitement went down
“LMAO”
“Lmao”
“Lol”
L
XD
|| ||
Oooh Skymii I like your artificial/natural theory
The sun shield symbols may be based on the flame symbol! They’re just not the same symbol
And ya, I’m really active here. And ooooofff it took a while to go through all that chat, you lot are dedicated!
Natural/artificial theory? Sorry, I missed that, could someone sum it up reaaaally quick?
eh it’s just a theory on how the symbols from the two shields in Battlefield might represent something
Ooh.
like how the Sun represent nature and the Diamond Artificial
._. yeah i just made that up
very recently sooo
That actually makes a lot of sense to me
got a long way to polish this theory
Hmm pretty sure someone else has similar theory to the Natural/Artificial but can’t remember who
or even when....
Also eheheh have fun back reading Hage !!

I have a theory about corruption of light creatures into dark creatures
Oh yes, I forgot to convey something. When I claimed my candles I did a terrible thing and asked a lore related question, I got no answer BUT I did get told the next live stream is going to be about light and dark creatures!
krill time
Don’t think we can ask if there’s any dead corpses of the creatures in the battlefield...
ask about them making krill plushies for mercy
I need a krill plushie
MANTA BLANKET YESSS
guess we just have to find out ourselves if the devs decided to do Light/Dark Creatures Q&A
I found them! The mega-eggs!
Is that Eden??!
eg g
What came first; Mega-bird or Mega-eggs?
So a krill and a manta put on a Barry White album...
Whoaahhhhh
So the dark plants growing from the whale skelly is essentially decay?
Would the dark plants growing from the spirit in the memory be, for lack of a less vivid descriptor, him decaying?
they like fungus / mushrooms
parasite maybe
The dark plants also trap living mantas and butterflies, so I see them as parasitic fungus like caterpillar fungus (don't google this unless you're okay with worms)
Could the storyline of journey somehow be related to sky’s storyline since they both have versions of ||ascension, storm/eden(?)||, wing power, etc? This might be a stupid question but I’m just wondering lol
No need for spoiler tagging
@hushed steeple such a beautiful theory about the whale 
Has there ever been conformation on what happened to eden king?
NOPE
the only thing we have on the king is the concept arts
And on murals and stuff
That’s it
👍🏼
in one of the livestreams it said that there was an eden elder (possibly the king) but it isnt ingame anymore cus in eden theres "nothing left to save"
something like that
but its just a speculation if the eden elder was the king. they never explicitly said
Theory: Skykids are sentient plants. Why else would everyone be so obsessed with light?!
Light and butterflies
Don't know how the boats work into it, but its all they talk about. More light! And more boats!
everything leads back to the boats!
ah i was wondering when we’d see the emo of the fam
Im starting to go through a teenage emo stage myself 😳😳
Hmm yes time to read through all the channel
Good luck out there soldier
Wow I don’t know if I’m just dumb or I am alarmingly interpersonally impaired, but I saw the kid (um, the son) as looking at the direction where the gate is rather than being emo. 😂😅
The way I understood it the dad was like “hey go to this direction, got something for you” so dude got the ukulele, played it, then dad was like “ya good at this you took after me lemme pat ur head”
Alternately, they got into some kind of fight so the son locked his dad out of the gate and played music to let off some steam, then dad later went to praise his ukulele playing.
Alright everybody, Vault mom has been measured!
She's a lot shorter than I remembered, but I double checked by going into the normal cutscene to make sure the scaling was the same as it was in the oob version, and fortunately it is
its possible to go oob to the murals cutscene to see her standing
Murals cutscene?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
all the elders in one place too sp its pretty neat
I forgot where that cutscene even plays
its part of the vault elders cutscene
I couldn't see it in the pre-eden oob area (where the first part of the vault elder cutscene is, it only has the main room, the beginning of eden, and the first part of the cutscene, and a massive cube), and there's nothing oob in the vault meditation room other than a giant flat plate
you know how when u went to the oob vault island to see vault mom you see this gigantic cube
the murals cutscene is in that cube
welp, everyone in the oob group that went for it is offline rn sadly
to the center of the cube yall go
I see a pumpkin
that's aqua, they helped us go oob
is that an mask :3
yes
no longer available since it’s a halloween item
pretty sure it was less but could be wrong
Spooky ooky pumpkin he owange round oh boy :3
.. cursed
Just before the temple in wasteland it looks allot like the one in isle of dawn
that little mural appears in eden as well
though i don’t remember if it appears anywhere else
Wrong channel @verbal jolt ! Can you please move them at #screenshots-and-videos ( with spoiler tag on ) since this channel is specifically dedicated to lore and theories only
Thank u!
Np I wasn’t sure whether it was okay here or not Ooof 😅
Nah its ok! its perfectly understandable to get confused with this channel's name, especially with the "spoilers" at the front
So you're fine 
Maybe we’d get less confusion if the channel name was lore-spoilers?
Also those megaeggs, are those canon or..?
how do you get oob in the vault cutscene?
@small osprey a question like that is better asked in #questions-and-help but the answer is with the table glitch and a friend
I double checked the circle shield and flame/whatever symbols and they definitely seem different but they could just be different ways they’re drawn
Interestingly this appears to be the same image reused as the Praire docks
In the intro/docks/closet there’s smaller lines on both diagonal axis, but on the shield it’s consistent
I think I’m reading too much into this and they’re all actually the same symbol (except the central one on the ground in orbit/constellation button because they have the broken lines and dots)
Bonus close up, the golden bit in the middle floats!
I was just about to say it looks like the sun symbol and diamond symbol.....mixed
Sort of
While I’m out of state I won’t have my computer to calculate measurements for the elders or anything else, but I’ll still be taking screenshots and I’ll look around for something else I can use to record the pixel lengths 
Bon voyage!
Now I am curious how high the normal spirits can be. Don't you guys think all those weapons and shields seem kinda large for them?
Definitely, the first shield in battlefield looks as tall, if not taller, than the regular spirits 🤔
But we can see just how big soon once we measure them
Which anyone can do, really, they just need to use no hair or default hair, default stance, and make sure to take care with getting the right angles and pixel measurements
I am not good at numbers and measurements so I used my kid to compare their size
I am also not good at editing images, but obviously the arms were too large for normal spirits to handle.
What could this mean??
Maybe those were the ones that the Elder used?
Yea but the whole realm has enormous weapons like those
I know spirits are tall but.....I don’t think they are that tall
Maybe they.....evolved?
Maybe there was a sorta rankings system that made big spirits. Hence the elders are huge
Let us talk politics
What political compass were this civilisation?
My best guess would go for a socialist oligarchy due to the lack of social class differences and the elders ruling them all
Unless it's just a bunch of tribes
Which one are u talking about
Golden wasteland?
Omgmgmgmgmg
Omg
Guys
I can’t be the only one who noticed this.....right?
people have noticed the similarities betweem the skulls in both forest and waste and the helmets spirits used
:0
Yayy so I’m not crazy

That tooo
The gw braid looked sort of like a krill
What if the mask design was based on the (now deceased) creature's head
heh
tgc really b changing and adding stuff secretly
a boat on top of the new isle area
they replaced the stone opening into an actual gate
they also changed the elevator design
That was from the vault renovation update
didnt know they also renovated isle too
They didn’t say in the patch notes so understandable
its a nice surprise
i came back to add extra pics for my albums but i got more than what i expected haha
Jay I definitely think it looks like the whale’s skull! So I wear the mask with the vault hood and a white cape with the whale voice to cosplay as a whale

Not me, working perfectly
Finally u believe me
So something interesting to note about the battlefield, I don’t know if anyone notice this but the pipes on the far right of the area, where it’s connected from the shipwreck and to the Temple.
Wouldn’t it be weird to see those pipes during the battle?
I mean, imagine one side decided to use those pipes to defeat the other side for victory?
or other reasons for the battle to occur?
far right from the entrance to battlefield?you mean the battlefield-shipwreck door?
i always thought it was a mode of travel because the army used ships to reach the shores and they snuck into the battlefield through the pipes possibly
Hmm maybe maybe
but at the same time, something had me thinking about that Lightseeker spirit and how she might be the nurse in training
iiffff that’s a case that is
we don’t fully know what’s her ordeal being at the area like the shipwreck
Nurse in training?
eh we’ll never know but i heard stories about nurses who travel to where wars at and aid the soldiers
similar to how the spirit was next to the supposedly injured spirit before the end of the spirit quest
huh can’t believe i still remember that
Or sometimes nurses straight up accompany the army as they march
true true !
Like the medics are their own division in the army so to speak
I wonder if the spirits had any pets
since i do know that the wasteland spirit starts inside the pipe
annnnnd ends on top of the pipes
Right
Hold up ... in connection to what Kira said about some people potentially sneaking up from the pipes
Imagine if the nurse ( who knows if it’s the same nurse ) having to travel secretly in order to heal the injured soldiers while the battle still happens
Why would she need to sneak around to do her job? Are nurses not protected from being attacked by enemy soldiers?
Hmm we not too sure since we don’t know full details on her yet
after all she might as well be the nurse/visitor for the shipwreck only
Annnd sadly i couldn’t find any videos for her btw

ah the one we’re talking about was from the Season of Lightseekers’s Wasteland seasonal spirit
aka the one with the sunny hat and the blue petal shaped cape
annnnnnd the one with crab call
yes...the infamous call of all calls
That was my favorite spirit and she is the best
And nurses get attacked a lot bc if you take the healer out they have no one to fix the other side
Mhmm mhmm
I remember the spirit but I forgot the whole cutscene and story, also her hat is my favorite and I wear it everyday
I just realized that someone was telling us they need our help when we first played the game. I wonder who.. 
@sly kestrel @sand abyss you can watch the wasteland light seekers spirit on yt in either nastymold or Tara’s videos of the full season
There were no seasonal cutscenes prior to the season of belonging
I don’t remember seeing any spirit other than her when I watched nastymold’s video, I’ll go and watch both now
Just rewatched nastymold’s video, also app unwrapper and Noob Mode’s vidéos and only saw the krab voice spirit during the memories
MMM LORE FRIENDS I dunno if this has already been mentioned but what are y’all s theory’s on this thing on the forest temple s door 
What may it meaaaan
It looks like a skull to me :0
ah yes that mask
Though I hardly catch this door closed, so it might just be a mechanic of that ,,, dunno
:0
Ooooh that makes sense, nice they stuck it in the game discreetly ,, nice little Easter egg to the concepts 
heheee indeed indeed !
you can find out more of the origin for that mask in one of the recent live-streams
Oooh that reminds me I still need to watch them 👁
Yay for break!
Yay!!
Who are they?
It’s missing isle for whatever reason
The murals in the Isle temple don’t depict it either 👀
Starting to wonder if thats on purpose
Like they dont show Isle as a realm, just the others (including Eden ofc)
boat grandpa was the king all along
:000
plot TWISTTTT
Why am I overthinking this
Some dumb reason, that actually makes sense
Or maybe.....I’m just dumb
His mask IS really broken so I’m down with this theory
He literally controls birds and sends them to Eden
I’m imagining all these sky kids ganging up on isle elder
“What are your secrets old man”
"OLD MAN TELL US"
but seriously though
Isle Elder ( aside from the whole life cycle theme ) is just
mysterious, even intimidating in a way
He is the Megabird
H E'S OREO
Or that
Skymii has joined the Oreo cult, you heard it here first folks


Also, what’s with all the stone pillars in Isle?
There’s 5 small pillars surrounding the take off before the temple
That ^
funnily enough i took a photo recently
i’m not sure what they are tbh, but it’s very bizarre
one of them has the mural of the people ascending with boats
Pretty sure two of them are tied to that spirit
Also, why is there just a giant wall between Isle and the clouds?
This
How👏did👏you👏make👏it👏rain👏
It’s just the wind being visually angery
ok but saw No Name wrote something about the many rooms in the Wasteland Temple
and

i m a g i n e the possibilities!!
coughs coughs back to the Isle Elder Mystery
If we actually like
get backstories for this man
probably not
but who knows
I was going Isle temple but ended up sitting in the exact position I took the photo from 
The Isle elder approaches the candle/skykid in the cutscene coming from Eden
@sharp wolf @sharp wolf
I don’t even know him/her
Bruh moment
So I took a photo of each of the elder masks and stuff like the Eden portal and the portals at home
But I don’t want to upload too many at once because it’s 11 photos
perhaps a google drive or something ?
I’m too stupid to do that unfortunately
Meh, I’ll just upload them anyway
Isle
Prairie
Forest
Valley
Wasteland
Vault
Why does Isle ring when Eden does?
Photo I just took
Isle and Eden are connected? 
Ok I’m done theorising
Oooooh

ok ok maybe i’m just overreacting but since all of the elders has that symbol in their masks
but interesting that Isle Elder the only one that has that on the gate while the rest, none
he ‘twas a young boiiiii
although the was presumed to be the oldest elder (probably younger than vault elder idk), maybe he was the most recent elder.
yeah
Vault Elder and Isle Elder would be around similar year group
but definitely one of them older

”and this is how the war started”
Valley twins
wheeeezeeee
Le epicy does a backflip
Ok but seriously though, judging by the looks of the elders, from youngest to oldest
- Valley Elders
- Forest Elder
- Wasteland Elder
- Prairie Elder
- Vault Elder
- Isle Elder
5 and 6 can still be debatable
mhmm
But I would personally agree with that chart
Valley ones pretty easy since they look notably young compared to the rest
but yeah Vault and Isle, interesting one
wasteland is like perfect where it is at in that chart
The middle
Forest and prairie could be something as well
U saw the chance and you took it

Cya!!
I don’t have a photo but have you guys noticed when you’re low on light sometimes this light wisp looking thing flies around you and recharges you? Any theories on what that is?
if we're thinking of the same thing, i thought it was a stray butterfly. Usually happens when a flock of butterflies is some way away
IM JUMPING IN LN THE OLD MAN THEORIES LATE BUT A
so I’m going to reuse a theory I’ve said before, I don’t know if I’ve sent it here but I’ve said it elsewhere,
Since spirits seem to have a home realm, they usually reflect said home right?
When we travel to Eden, no one is there to save else for other sky-children like ourselves. If Eden is supposed to be this “heavenly” place, and Skykids resemble angels in a way, would that be their home?
I’d imagine that if regular citizens were allowed into Eden, there would be some to save alongside the kids, but there isn’t.
And since it’s pretty agreed upon that Isle represents “new beginnings and rebirth” and it’s the first place we see on our journey, perhaps Isle had some information on Eden that the others didn’t.
it’s a stretch but it also may be why there are so few people, no civilization or ruins other than boats. That new area, up by the temple could be an exception, but even it doesn’t resemble a living space or anything other than an empty structure built into a cave 
What I’m getting at is that yes, Isle and Eden may very well be connected, bringing joy the bell ringing thing too,,, that always confused me and It’s a nice little detail that points in that direction
I need. To go and relook at the murals to see if I can get anything
I mean when you first enter eden you automatically see eden
You just confused my brain with a single sentence frick I’m- tired
Oh wait
WHOOPS
I MEANT
When you first enter isle you automatically see eden
I’m tired too, sorry 😂😂
Lmao
Interestingly, the two-player puzzle in Isle wasn’t the only place secretly updated in the recent vault patch; the unusable door in Pineswood got a tiny change as well, the mechanism is now blocked by rubble and there’s a few pre-lit lanterns inside
Oh yeeee I noticed that too
ooo
devs coming up with ways to make it look unavailable but interesting: rubble rubble shuffle shuffle
I find that change so funny fjfhfjfn
but I really wanna know what they’re going to put behind it, if they are putting anything there anyways
Bit late but I feel like it’s preparation for an entrance to a new area
There’s stairs leading into the void under the cave behind the door
Finally got the pic
Those prelit lanterns were there before, I glitched behind the door to take a look previously
Yes but the stairs
Stairs
Weird thought but does the ball that the ||Eden king eats|| have any relation to the balls inside the spirits?
Is that what turns you into a spirit if you consume it?
The spirits are just memories of the dead
Some show how they died
Like faint
And some show their funnest memories
Like laugh
i meant to ask, whats in the two player door in the ice rink of the valley?
nothing, it’s from the Gratitude season, aka two seasons ago
sooooo it’s technically a leftover for the old seasonal spirit
_i think it’s best not to experience.... what happened over there
_
_the seasonal spirit for Gratitude.... just disappeared for many many weeks _ and the devs tried their hardest to bring back the spirit from their holiday
no, no star there
ah dang
indeed, thankfully tho as soon as the spirit got fixed, some managed to get it so yay!
Ohhh
this one! that annnnd
the mask my pfp wearing rn
( plus the small bell which was non pass )
rip
Gratitude don’t have much story going on, but the fact that the same Valley spirit from Gratitude appears in the Lightseeker’s Ice skating boi was pretty sweet
wonder if the devs gonna do the same when the next season comes
( but yeah both Gratitude and Winter has their Valley Seasonal Spirits on the same place, which is at the ice rink, except for Belonging which is allll the way at the temple )
I think lightseekers had it in the ice rink too
ah right, forgot about them too, even though i talked about it not too long ago

Winter, Gratitude AND Lightseekers all have their Valley seasonal spirits at Ice Rink
Could kinda see why the devs decided to put the Belonging one in the Valley Temple
Wait
Do the spirits change every season
I know the seasonal spirits
But the other ones
The regular ones, afaik, stay the same
Hm
ok dokie
Blop
How do people even find this game without Journey? Journey's the bait, Sky's the hook
Oof
Hes got an ipad and played it during launch
I was thinking
What if the darkness plants, crabs, and krill represented something in life?
Since, yanno, the 7 kingdoms already explain how life is apparently
The crabs could be a metaphor for fear, maybe. You're always trying to avoid them as they actively come for you.
The darkness plants could serve as sadness, maybe. They grow back, but eventually theyre destroyed by light, which might mean we find a way to get over the sadness, even if its temporary.
The krill/dragon could mean something lingering-- repressed bad memories, bad thoughts about oneself. Like, if you're caught by them, you certainly risk your light being destroyed. Just like if those mems come back and you think about it, it makes ya feel bad
Just a thought
Wasteland is like adulthood right? That’s what I’ve heard at least. Going off that possibly false assumption, maybe the krills are a midlife crisis? And in Eden, since it’s death, they’re just all the regrets you’ve had in life?
Does anyone still have the mural that was on one of the towers in old prairie, now in birds nest?
Wasteland is supposed to represent your midlife (40s-60s), so maybe the krills represent regrets in both cases
Krills are just massive eye centipedes staring you down
onefear.jpg
This may have been said before but what if the forest temple is actually a power diamond factory? The forest elder is the blacksmith that makes the power diamonds but the forest kingdom ran out of light (which is why there’s darkness plants everywhere). On the door there is a mural that shows to make a power diamond they used parts of the trees and combined it with the light from butterflies captured in pots from prairie. In the cutscene the elder is still trying to create power diamonds but she only has the parts from the trees, once we give her light she can complete the power diamond which opens the door.
Thats interesting
I wonder what these were used for, the power diamond has been taken out probably as they became desperate due to running out of light
:0 just found some more in the shipwreck... also empty.. maybe they were large power diamond storage devices that were getting shipped to the wasteland kingdom before its downfall..
ooo this is a really interesting theory of yours @gentle smelt
The sky kid there could be a lost soul from the damaged delivery
@gentle smelt ooh I like the idea of the dark plants being associated to more "power diamonds", as the diamond at the end of Eden could be the cause of the storm.
Ok, I know I’m completely new here, but something kept bothering me about the sky kid’s lore
You guys were talking about the home of the spirits earlier, right?
And if the sky kids had a home as well
My immediate flashback to this was in Eden
That was my theory yea 
My thought was that it was Eden, if you can find my message I go a bit more in depth~
Oof, well that’s already half of what I was going to say and a bit extra
Mdmdmd a! Go ahead and say yours! I’d love to hear it
Well, thing that was bothering me was actually the constellations you see there
Amongs the six others, there’s an extra seventh
One with no spirits, but a very familiar shape, the crown
The wing I have not dove in depth with, sadly
Unless
The crown is used to represent Eden, as seen in the Vault cutscene. Which further adds to my thought that the skykids home was Eden, as it’s also used as the image for the friends constellation
Ahh, got it, this settles my annoying conscience down, thank you
But, now the wing? I forgot literally every mural in the game so if there’s any that explain it do tell
Hm, I don’t think it’s shown in any murals except for the final constellation gate before Eden,,, like that’s the only place I remember seeing it.
I haven t quite figured a connection for it besides being used to also somehow represent the skykids and the stars they collect 
Well, now I have a new mission! Cya!

Is it just me or.....lately this chat has been a lot more quiet than usual

guess we don’t really have anything new to say here aside from the Skykid, Life Cycle, Wasteland and Eden, Megabird, The King, Elders annnd more theories
so ehhh anything interesting theories you guys had in mind?
wHAt IF ThIs WHOlE gAME is JUs a DReaM
😂
Imagine tho if sky was merely nothing but the adventure of journey’s white leaders
Idk any theories but if anyone wants to give any, I’ll be WAY more than happy to go talk about it and explore
same here 
Hm...
What was the Belonging Wasteland elder doing way out there alone?
How’d the family get separated in the first place?
probably the family members losing touch of each other hence having them doing their own things ?
Huh I suppose so
I was wondering tho cause some of them definitely seem like children
So I was wondering if they got physically separated or something
three children and three adults
with having Isle, Prairie and Forest as children
And Valley, Wasteland and Vault as adults
mhmm mhmm
you could try identify them through the colour of the capes
True
Mhmm from the look of it
I just find it kinda odd that the three kids especially would be supposedly okay with being separated for so long
with the white capes been grandparents
blue capes been parents
and red been children
especially the isle and prairie ?
Wouldn’t they all be freaking out trying to find each other?
thought so too if that’s the case
Assuming that they like got lost or something
Well I’m the livestream Reika jus said that they didn’t really get separated, they just went and did their own thing and we were jus supposed to remind them that it’s dinner and they should spend time
Something like that
Spend time?
mhmm thought about the doing their own things as well
Oh I guess that’s true
Like for the holidays ya kno
hmm looks like a mother to me
Er wait
Valley was mom I think
Yeah
Mother to the Isle and Prairie kiddos
Like 2 kids, 2 parents, 2 grandparents...?
And one that I should’ve noticed a lot earlier is that they are aged throughout the realms






