#eden-spoilers
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@dim geyser No, that isn't it. I'm not new to the game, I'm good at Eden. I get them all in one go with about 25 stars left each time. It's the mechanical function of having the control removed from the player that's still a frustrating experience, regardless of how good I am at the level. The function of losing stars itself isn't the problem; it's the stun-locking and the fact it takes control from the player. It's a UX thing; not so much a problem with the level being intentionally challenging. Like, in my suggestion, I'd replace it with intermittent rain, instead.
The intermittent rain is supposed to be there
Everything they added on the game is because they put it there because that’s the meaning and the functionality they wanted to put on... it would be such an easy and boring place to just walk around getting all statues without the intermittent rain
I understand what you are trying to say Words... but I also understand that part of the experience that TGC is giving the player is the loss of control that comes with stunlocking. It is emulating something that happens in life/death... a loss of control over one's physical self and one's ultimate fate.
that's true
there's also ways people have minimised stun locking, so if the endless rain was intermittent i feel like it would lower the difficulty by a lot
It would be SO much easier without stun locking, which sort of defeats the purpose of the story
What’s stun-locking? When you get greyed out and can’t relight?
I think people are misunderstanding what I'm saying. When I suggest rain as an alternative, I mean like the rain in Hidden Forest, but with an increased rate of charge draining, to a level that mechanically balances out to be as difficult as the current version of the level. Stun-lock isn't difficulty, it's wait time. It's partly the same reason people want an option to skip cutscenes. Taking control from the player isn't a positive mechanic.
@balmy hearth Stunlock is a mechanic in a game that repeatedly locks a character in a loop of getting stunned, usually because there are no i-frames, or because the cause for the stun happens immediately again, in rapid succession, preventing the character from being able to escape the cycle of stunlock. It happens in Eden, even though it isn't a permanent stun-lock. The way the mechanics are currently implemented, there is a stunlock problem.
Also, to say "Everything they added on the game is because they put it there because that’s the meaning and the functionality they wanted to put on" kind of ignores the fact that the game already does change, and not everything that's put in is definitely right, even in the devs' opinions, and the game is already being improved by feedback. And what's implemented, currently, doesn't mean that nothing could be improved upon in any way. My suggestion is to keep the themes of challenge, through use of an alternative mechanic that simply doesn't use stunlocking. In fact, arguably, using rain instead would fit those themes of lack of control even more, because the player couldn't simply dodge it, and it would be a constant factor. It's about alternate game-mechanic ways to create the same intended themes and intended results and challenge, without the one detriment of stunlock in the current mechanics. It's purely a UX thing. I'm not suggesting anything to make the level more boring, or necessarily easier. In fact, ideally, I'd suggest adding rain, and keeping the rocks, but simply taking out only the stun effect. It would still kick out winged light with whatever rate it could be programmed with, and be a genuine challenge. I'd argue it would be more interesting, and enhance the themes.
I mean, nobody's obliged to agree, of course. That's fine. But it is something I've put a fair amount of forethought into, which is why I suggested it.
I do think the stunlocking is annoying but it’s a good challenge. Replacing it with rain would be boring because the rain is that hard of an obstacle to avoid (plus the rocks are more dramatic and go better with the vibe of Eden). TLDR Eden’s fine the way it is in my opinion
Now I’m envisioning an alternate Eden where it’s just raining crabs
That would be amazing
rain crabs and krill
It would turn into a massive scrum of stunning crabs and then running around with them in a crab tag battle royale
i dont like how now when we are just near the krill we can lose our light
at the top of that tower
Or have the crabs molt into baby krill
Adorable baby krill like lethal brine shrimp
There are 10 winged lights in Eden?
yup
Hashtag just girly sky things: Diamonds will never look the same ♦️
and in she ra
aren't the last 3 valley?
I finally received the second half of the Valley Elder hair today. Didn’t know I needed four hearts on my last run.
I kick the kid in the head instead of hug >:D
ever just kick urself
I missed the moment but the nearest photo was this
omg
@torn bloom those are some beautiful screenshots! especially love those last two!
@torn bloom I call the whale Kirby the big boi 😄
i just did an eden run in under like 15 minutes-
Oh yeah
damn i do eden quite quickly now (tho i do still find it hard lol) and the time spent gathering all of the children of light and candles doesn't feel equal to the time spent in eden adhfkgfd
feels like 80% of the game is grinding
LOL
I lost my stars by the rocks at one point but the person in front of me help me get them back and I was so relieved 😩
This community gives me hope I stg
awww
Had to fix my video due to profanity...
a good sassy boi
Finally caught this moment last time I did Eden .
I scaled Mnt. Pagoda, lit that dumb flame, and died as I lived. I'm either doing Eden right or terribly wrong
Doing Eden right
quick question
you get the 40 wings when saving all the children right?
so if a missed some and went back for them, do i also get 40?
You get 40 wings from having every wing buff +the bonus star
Statues determine how many storm candles you get
When you save all the children in the last area you get ascended candles in orbit. The cap for those is 15.75 ascended candles a week
okay thank you everyone
may i ask what are the extra stars?
because i have all wing buffs and yet i only got 39 ☹️💔
there's one at the exit of orbit
it's a little funky so not everyone gets it
usually after you exit through the gate, the star collected sound plays
woah 😮
thank you so much
Got some help on my eden run
Aaaand some edits
Ok bit of a story here:
I was going on my Eden run when someone friended me at the first door.
I accepted it since it looked like it was their first time.
Skip to the actual part of Eden then that’s where are the chaos happens.
The bridge that you have to cross with the krill/dark dragons can sometimes put me off guard and the weird camera angles too.
NOW ME AND THIS OTHER PERSON ARE FALLING INTO WHO KNOWS WHAT.
Luckily I managed to have enough flight power to get us back on the bridge and do a quite successful run.
Definitely one of my most scariest experiences in Eden
oh man that part gives me anxiety
Anyone up for an Eden run??
@surreal valve try posting in #looking-for-group-live 

i went with one and like i fell somewhere and so did she and i had to teleport back and do it myself
cuz i couldnt join her
th bridge part yeah. i wish you could zoom out i always get stuck in there when i try getting out its so stresful ejfkjek
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The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset is on Sunday January 26 at 00:00 PST (In 3 days 8 hours 39 minutes 14 seconds)
why do we need the eden resets?
The statues give you a quarter candle each
They won’t reappear if you light them until the reset
ahhhhh
that looks so good
Ah well
It’s just with an editing app btw, so it’s pretty easy
You can try making some!
oh that looks pretty
like, it looks like those woodcuttings
Don’t you just love it when you have 30 winged light to spare the last three statues in front of you, only to lose all of them via stun lock? 😂
Yep
Honestly the stunlock is frustrating. I cant move at all when it keeps pinning me on the spot
Are you jumping a lot? That makes you fall over more
If you just walk you don’t get knocked over as much

Well at least i finished ascending all the elders in my last run so i got 15 ascended candles to spare whatever’s in store for me in the future xD
i'm having flying lag in orbit :((
also, has anyone ever managed to oob on your way to orbit? i feel like the castle and the final area of the valley races would be the prettiest places to oob but the wind barriers are so strict >:0
i know it's just doing its job but aag
how to oob to orbit
nevermind i managed to oob out of the castle! but i didn't get to explore much haha and orbit whisked me away
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The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
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this is some phone wallpaper worthy stuff
I love how orbit is really a e s t h e t i c
It really is
no context needed
when you have to do a presentation in front of the class by yourself
yeah!!
the way i got out was really difficult though i don't know if i'd try it again
I was just fooling around when that happened. I’ll try to recreate it on my next eden visit.
ooh
did you bust through one of the windows? i had to put a campfire above a no collision window's arch and worm my way up to the campfire
Iirc. That happened while I was following the birds, hit the cloud roof, kept flapping and exited out a hole. Lemme look if I had a photo of said exit.
This hole
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It was surreal flying out of bounds there though. xD
Awww, never found a perch unfortunately. Will try next time. xD
i was too scared to land there until the barrier pushed me into it and i realized i could stand there without being back in bounds! hehe
really crusty video but it was so long a >:0
also the whale breaking the building in the distance made me flinch for sure
Now I wanna go to eden again. That part with the whale smash, I remember that happening. xD
when eden is that relaxing you fall asleep half way through heheh Oops
IT SAW US
I'm still frustrated at Eden tbh. Even after tens of times there it's always a kick in the backpack when the mechanics of the last stage is so against you. It would be very different if the storm was for example, strong wind and rain with lightining strikes instead.
It just feels like you're unable to fight back.
Very poor design. It's like a poorly designed fighting game character, where one is overpowered and when you fight it you can't do anything and it just sucks.
If you were able to call out pings
to stop the rain, or simply change the rain to something like blue rain for a period that would allow you to re-kindle in the storm perhaps
Then again, emotion is what they want with it and it symbolizes the end
When you figure out that it's just lighting the star children and then dying just to reborn it's not so scary, but the knockdown is fundamentally frustrating
That's the only thing I wish they would redesign
When does the Eden statues reset?
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The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset is on Sunday January 26 at 00:00 PST (In 2 days 19 hours 5 minutes 10 seconds)
Oh, thanks!
just finished eden today!!!
im going to run around and collect wing light so i can play it with my friend too
Congrats!
@near forum personally I actually really like the brutality of the rock rain? Like you said it heightens the emotion.
Persevering though that struggle pushes all players to be heroic. I feel like it is really meaningful and gutsy game design. It doesn't coddle players or give a power fantasy like in other mainstream games.
I also like the way stormlock is now. It does give you a feeling of helplessness, but I think that’s part of the story. The whole time in the game, you’re pretty much fully in control. You can run and hide relatively easily everywhere else. Stormlock is different because it takes that and subjects you to the whims of the storm (which are still somewhat predictable). You’re pushed to the edges of your ability and are rewarded well
Try uploading directly from your photos app @simple glacier 

@near forum i feel u sm aaa, id prefer it if the devs would make it so the rain slows you down rather than knocking u down every step. I love how it conveys emotions, but after going to eden couple of time it feels less emotional and more helpless, even when you still have got some stars left u don’t even try because you know you’ll get knocked down every jump , it’s frustrating
True, but it becomes a more of a been there done that situation. The first time is when it's more impactful, and the idea of not getting knocked down while doing eden just seems like it would take away a level of panic, in turn making the juxtaposition of orbit less impactful. It's the first run that eden is designed for, that's not going to change for the people who are grinding all the impact out of it
I’ve been trying to psych myself up for a 4th run— yes, heroic sacrifice and passing on the help that others gave to you, but from a purely selfish perspective it’s just so heartbreaking to go from soaring airborne grace to staggering around covered with muck unable to do anything except wait to die
It certainly is an adventure, but that’s what makes it, in its own way, charming as well. Eden is brutal, but there is some beauty in it, even though soaring above the clouds is ideally more fun 
Hugging my in-game friend that guided me through Eden 🥰
I’m confused
“Everything’s gonna be alright.”
itll be fun they said damn never been to eden
it is an experience
@coarse dragon uUHU B O I YOURE IN FOR A R I D E IF U EVER DECIDE TO DO IT JSJSJ
u can dm me if you’d like an eden guide btw sjjsjs
If you want you can join us on saturday
uU i’d love to! i’ll update u if i’ll be free tho cuz i’m going skiing and there’ll be no wifi ✌️😔
the last part of eden is scary at first and then it just gets really annoying since i do want to get a move on but i keep falling backwards from getting hit and when i get up it just happens again and sometimes i just get caught in a loosing-star-falling loop
in the non-stop rock storm especially but the other areas are unpredictable for me so sometimes i'll wait and be like "yeah! the rocks stopped for sure now they haven't appeared for a good minute" and then go outside my hidey-hole and get pummeled and then hide again and then i'll have the same train of thought haha
that’s eden. it’s supposed to be like that.
ik
i just don't like getting caught in a fall loop and losing a good quarter of my stars
i understand
you might already know this, but you get knocked down more often if you jump. so it’s faster and safer to just walk through the rocks.
Don't rely on the sounds, rely on visual cues
The rumbling sounds are a bit deceiving
Go for it once the rock rain stops
I’m more scared of the first part of Eden! (not the very VERY beginning but the place after you open the second door)Don’t wanna lose winged light on the way to the final area!
ahh, after you do it enough times it becomes a breeze
But when you’re taking friends it’s like must protect
learning krill patterns, safe ares and knowing what distance you can cover between rock falls is key to doing a clean run
Tbh the last part of eden is so easy for me and it kinda feels tranquil
Sure theres rock rain, sure there's stunlock 1/4th of my time there, but thats the least of my problems
There are statues around, and we need to save them to the best of our abilities
And like, i guess theres a feeling of satisfaction when you give away that last star to one more statue
yesss
i never have enough time to give all of my stars to every statue despite having almost the max amount of stars for live
i usually have about 30ish stars before heading to the last 3 statues
i just say "oh alright" in an angry tone every time i get knocked down
i usually havee 20?
but it burns out quickly
it’s so satisfying to get them all
yess
i managed to record one of my cleanest runs in that zone
though.. i missed one statue just bc i didn't see it lol
i spend a lot of my time there trying to make sure i get all of them
if i see one all the way back i forgot i'll probably lose 10 stars just to get it
oof
i usually manage to catch them all running by
but some times one statue escapes and i can only see it in peripheral so i miss
I losing around 15 stars to rocks Neanderthal everything but kinda miss around 5 statues. Still kinda depressing getting knocked of and then loose around 5 stars just trying to get up
LOL
i always honk and deep call when i'm there
idk why but i feel like it makes a difference
Oh Gona try that. It’d always towards the end, that I cursing the rocks
Seems like at the end i opted for a half deep call
idk iirc in this one i didn't get knocked
Wow, you loose some star but don’t get knocked off. I’m really gonna try honking
the power of hjöNK
also just another thing when doing this strategy, always be moving
Okay, thank you. Will try next week
Good luck!!
Is there a limit to how many stars you can collect?
Yes, 116
116 is the max right now
At the moment 

Literal galaxy on your back
*i am the sky
Hmmm
Take THAT wind barrier
Oh you wanna race me in the Valley of Triumph?
turns around to reveal the infinite wedges on back
I have found 115 wonder where I am missing the last wl
76 in the world, 39 from spirits and 1 from being reborn
You can do eden as many times as you like as long as you’ve finished vault and have 20 winged light
However, there are statues in Eden you can only give your winged light and receive ascended candles once a week, so they probably meant that
They reset at Sundays pst
I’m using beta for this Eden run so not all the images can fit here for seasonal reasons but I’m glowey here so it doesn’t look too bad.. this shot is pretty
!!!
Continuing the eden talk, with the "poor design" that is intended to be the end and be a very intense experience, is fair game.
However, the problem is that the game does a very poor job explaining beforehand that this is a mechanic that can and will happen.
Somewhat, the issue with eden feeling terrible to play would be solved if they added a section that knocks you down as a sort of preperation to it. Introducing the player to the concept that the storm exists and you can get knocked down in such an environment.
Because rain, wind and the occasional krill is the only thing you have as "enemies" of the same magnitude you are clueless when presented with this seemingly unsurmountable obstacle that defies all your previous experiences.
And to be perfectly honest, the best I've played through eden was when the bug to stop the storm was still possible to do. You were able to outsmart the game, stop the storm and collect all the statues and choose for yourself to end the stage by submitting yourself to the storm.
In my opinion that was the more powerful emotion for me and it didn't involve being as frustrated because the start already has intermittent storm that is hard to navigate.
Imagine if the storm was intermittent all the way to the sand dunes, and because you're so close to the diamond you have to choose to fly into the storm instead.
The inevitability of death and the concept of "the end" can still fully be present and changes it to a power to the player who must still die, without the frustration of the game mechanics.
I feel they've definitely talked about this a lot and Jenova Chen likely has very strong feelings for how he wants this presented.
This is something we're free to disagree with as no one is perfect and as players/customers we can discuss the product. A live service game vs a finished product is another interesting topics too tbh.
Thanks for the ted talk etc lol

Question
In eden, the part where you give stars to the statues, is there supposed to be only like 5 statues? Cuz the past 2 times I’ve went to eden there have only been 5. This a bug?..
And also, is it just me?
You can only save a certain amount of statues weekly
So if you saved them already they won’t reappear until the next reset
Ohhhh. Welp that explains it
Thank you
I had an amusing if morbid thought: at the end of your run when ||you're slogging through, if you strike a pose/emote will you solidify like that or is the cut scene predetermined?||
Because sassy emote
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I dont think so?
I had the sneak emote for eden and it gave me the default pose so i guess poses are disabled?
Poses are disabled YeA
I’m sure people ask this a lot but what’s the max number of ascended wing buffs you can start over with after Eden?
Ok I have 6 after my recent run
I think it’s around 36 for numbers but I haven’t checked
And 41
39 wing buffs + one from orbit
Hmm why might I have 41 then?
do you play on beta?
No live
strange
Huh
Welp
The extra winged light might’ve come to live with the new patch
On beta, you could get 2 extra stars from being reborn
oh true hm
That would make sense
Not sure if it’s intended
i wasn't sure if my extra one came from the traveller though
The traveler should give wing buffs with the other spirits, the extra stars are during the cutscene
Should there be a traveller right now in live? I thought that didn’t start until next season?
i might have to do another run in beta
Ah okay no worries!
bc in beta i was testing whether the traveller gave me buffs, (at the gate i have 31 buffs) but upon entering the credits and receiving the secret stars i was granted 3 extra stars
but I'll do eden again to verify
Traveling spirit will come on dec 31
I believe I was given 2 secret stars because I had just unlocked all 39 buffs, maybe this is normal now 
Did you do Eden after the update?
If the update was today then yes I did
Yeah the update happened a few hours ago
ahh
ok i did a run in beta i think i just confused myself more ahaha
Yes
ah
Idk if its only me or for all player
maybe it’s some kind of bug
Yes maybe
Yes
let me check
Im bot playing beta
i'd report it
Im not playing beta
ohh i already bought the whale call wing buff so the price doesn’t appear
it's definitely not supposed to be that price
yeah
Or is it maybe caused by whale call has capeless cosmetics
hm
is there anything else you can see in that tree
in the locked portion of the tree, i mean
I can’t see more
in that case, please report it #report-a-live-bug

@blissful raven can I see what’s on the top of the whale call tree?
Thank you! This helps a lot
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Next reset is on Sunday January 26 at 00:00 PST (In 2 days 1 hours 18 minutes 2 seconds)
Ok so u do u have to unlock the spirit trees with ur eden candles in eden or can u unlock them at home and get ur wing buffs the next time u go?
If you unlock the spirit trees in Eden, you’ll get the buffs right when you leave. If you buy them at home, you’ll have to wait till your next run to get them
Ok thank u
the best way to make a comeback lol
the game tells me it's hard, what are the mistakes not to lose your wings
Sorry for my english
You will end up losing all your wings, that’s the only way to clear eden
To preface this, you will lose all your wings and be reborn. That is the point of going to Eden.
sorry i am new player since 3 days now^^'
The game is like a continuous loop. There is no permanent ending
hm ok so
In Eden, you are climbing the mountain (the one you see in the distance in the other realms)
It’s broken up into three main stages
I have 6 pairs of wings, can I lose everything at 0? as if I started the game again?
It’s broken up into three main stages
ok i see
Almost all the obstacles in all of the stages are based on timing
Well, the third stage gives you a special currency that helps you increase the amount of wedged you can get
But we’re not there yet
The first stage is just climbing a steep path. Strong winds are timed to increase and decrease their intensity here. This is also the first place you see falling rocks. It’s only for a small bit, and the rocks are also timed. If they hit you they take your light. After the falling rocks bit, you’ll come to a large crack. You can only jump over it during a lapse in the wind. If you try while the wind is blowing strongly, you’ll be pushed back
That’s pretty much it for the first stage
wow wow wait i traslate ur message x)
oh ok and Do I have to combine all the pairs of wings or can I go directly to the stage?
Hmm
There are stars, the glowing children you collect in the realms
These make up the amount of cape wedges you have
In other words, how many wing flaps you get
It does not matter how many stars or cape wedges you have, you must travel through all 3 stages every time you go to Eden
Hmm...what if I tried to explain this in French? I can’t speak it but I can use google translate
I’ll have to message you because only English is allowed in this server
ok np
Just did eden and got knocked down only in the intermittent storm before the constant storm. I had absolutely no knockdown even at the sand dunes
If it stays like this.. that might be something but I feel I was just lucky
But the game did a BRRR sound effect and now I don't have sound ingame anymore lol
Got thrown off a cliff by a krill cause I wasn't looking and then I fell into like a river thing and couldn't move and lost stars so yay for eden
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@wooden talon Sorry spoiler- ||You will die at eden but stay alive long as you can||
How did you like it, des?
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finally,,
Wait, i didn’t really get an end like this, even tho I saved almost all fallen ones
ive unlocked all the cosmetics, once you do that for a constellation, you can call the elder of that realm in orbit
@sleek vigil something new up there?👀
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Is there really a place in the third stage after the continuous rock rain without the rain?
If you are talking about orbit, yes
After you die in Eden, you go to orbit, where you are reborn
With the statues?
@dull thistle not sure what you meant about Eden, but I go regularly in both versions, and don't find them any harder in the latest versions.
The statues part is where you die
i haven't noticed much difference between versions either
After that part, you'll ascend and be in orbit
Does third part of this map require the glitch to collect the dark blue ones?
No, it's possible to get them, just a little difficult
the glitch was not intentional and it was fixed long ago
you have to get the statues during the rain
It gets easier the more winged lights you go in with 
was there more dust added recently?
to the rock rain area with the krill
also, i dont know if anyone else has experienced this, but I keep getting ?? sticky, i guess? in eden
i’ll get stuck to smooth rocks for no reason
got endless rockfall where I’m. P sure there isn’t supposed to bE!! I think it was my fault bc I explored off to the far left and peeked through a crack between some rocks, might’ve triggered the endless rockfall and in turn caused it to be everywhere on the maP 
oof that's some bad luck-
oof indeed
So i went last sunday to Eden. Does this mean I have to wait till this upcoming sunday to get some ascended candles?
Depends on when Sunday PST is in your time zone. If you went Sunday PST then yup you’ll have to wait for next Sunday for the statues to be reset, but if your Sunday is before 12AM Sunday pst then you can go again this week and still get candles
Thank you,
Unless you didn’t get all of the statues. Depends on how many candles you got, really
When I started I’d only get up to 10 candles. So I’d make more than 1 trip. It’s really up to you in what you can handle and what you think is worth it
Thinking about it… still thinking… Urgh. Should I do this during my 30min break at work or wait until tomorrow? Crap I’m busy tomorrow too
Should I just wait until Monday then? I don’t got work then either or maybe I could go Sunday.
For some crazy reason I thought today was Saturday.
i’d wait til i had more than 30 mins. it could take longer than that to finish.
If you speed run it, you can get it done in between 15-30 minutes but I’d wait until tomorrow
There’s more past the continuous rock fall?????

yes
I have done eden like 4 times I believe and....all this time...
I know it’s supposed to be extremely difficult and the point is to die but..
Eden seems like a chore to me 
@tepid topaz have you been there? Past the continuous rock fall?
I’m starting to think I’ve misunderstood your question
There are statues while the continues rockfall hits you yes but
There’s no end to that rock fall
it sounds like you’re aware of what happens after you die in the continuous rockfall area
After you get to the last statue there’s not much further you can go
Exactly
There’s a barrier preventing you from ever reaching the diamond
Just wait there and die if u gave extra wings
@tepid topaz I just read further up and people were talking about sand dunes
@rich egret ah! Thank you!
Just keep going forward till u don’t see more statues xD
🤪 I always get so frustrated
@dim geyser ty! I really wish there was a birds eye toggle so I can see where I’m at in relation to everything else
@dim geyser sorry for starting another convo!
Thank y’all!
Don’t worry ;”0
Just the game tries to not have stuff on the screen
TGC I should’ve said
You will know where all of them are with fine and all places to get wax and stars @charred dock
You’ll get it
@dim geyser thank you so much

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Eden is honestly so much fun
WHEN THERE AREN’T NOOBS IN THE SAME SERVER
Lolol
But I honestly need to go to Eden cuz I um… lost all my extra wings
Oh boi good luck ahnik! 
is the number of ac you're rewarded based off of how many stars you drop, or how many total stars your group drops?
It's based on how many statues you save
not based on groups, but on how many you personally do
wait, so why is it useful to go with a group?
if you go in a group you can work together to keep eachother lit
like maybe some one more experienced runs ahead to light those mother statues, or maybe in the endless rain you deep call to make eachother last a bit longer
What Granny Pigeon said. Groups can be useful in Eden.
not to mention but when you go in groups you suddenly have a strong attachment to them
eden is so much fun with friends and friendly randoms!
You become battle buddies fast
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I lead a expedition through Eden with like 4 moths and I watched two of them get krilled
It was very sad
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Groups r good but sometimes you gotta split up 😭
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I’m very sorry but how absolutely DARE you glow in a dark place, especially eden?? I hate it when people do that, I can’t see anything and then I either wait 5 minutes or sumn for them to finally leave or I just leave and get thrown to oblivion
also people glowing in wasteland is a big pet peeve of mine
cent they fixed the glow spell in the most recent update, it’s not so bright now
@hoary briar that is not glow spell. Glow spell was changed.
This is glow spell now.
Yay, people are no longer blinding
One day, the glow spell will actually be useful
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You all played the eden part of the game?
It felt like I was in the military after I left my friend to start the journey
How many wings should I have by the end of Eden?
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@mortal dragon it fully depends on how many wing buffs you unlocked after being reborn + how many ac you got
How does one determine how much ascended candles a person get?
Depends on how many statues you light! the max is 15
15 candles*
There’s around 63 statues to light
Thanks @spice pewter
no prob!
Hey I have a question about ascended wing buffs; are they permanent, or do you lose them next time you go to Eden as well?
I lost my friends in eden and it’s a big group, legit I’m scared ;-;
Yay
the first safe area, where you find one winged light in there
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@prime plume you use the wing buffs to release more children statues just like the star kids you collected in the worlds. After Eden and before being reborn you get the buffs back
!spoiler When you die at the Eye of Eden, before you’re reborn it’s the most beautiful sight you’ll ever see.
It gets...tiresome if you’ve seen it 20+ times already. Lol
But yeah, way to orbit is pretty
@tall galleon thanks
Beautiful!
Yeah
Udsigdidsjajkzmd
What a great reward after the eye
i havent been in eden for about a month 
ever since i unlocked all 9 wing buffs i havent been there since
well
no point, already have them all
Go for fun
well
Play hide and seek in storm lock
the last time i went there was just to get the stars in eden lol
Also warp
Yeah, traveling spirits need ascended candles
yeah
cries in having spent them last week
my “friend” on sky abandon me :(
i dont really care about the traveler spirits, until the crab call spirit returns 
o people just randomly add me ig
They have wing buffs
I used to before I joined this
i wait for people to add me bcuz im scared of getting rejected lol
i dont but after doing some emotes thats what usually makes people add me ig
most of them are moths now that i think about it
i need to delete some
Eden is great
NO ITS NOT
Yeah it is
It’s all fun
The pretty part takes the longest to finish
yeah
I agree with wren. Eden is great. Lots of fun with friends.
its not fun for me
Totally different experience than solo
it will be
With friends
You can actually fly together in orbit
Friends are fun without capes
That too
You need to find better friends in game then
RIPPp @west ermine
Don’t add random people
i dont add
Talk to them first. That’s what chat seats are for
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How do I explain eden to someone who’s never done eden before and has no idea lol
Umm is it just me or did Eden wind become stronger after update
some are saying it’s stronger, some are saying it’s the same
i thought it reset already i was jsut about to go in
@low fulcrum try "wasteland x10"
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quick question
GOD i adore and hate the animation of ur kid going through the first parts of eden (the idle animation!),, TGC made their body language so reAL they have their arms!! around their torso!! like they're in pain!! i Weep!!! 
how many red candles would one get if they gave their winged light to all the children
15.75 candles
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I just realized, so you go to the eye of eden to help others like yourself, by sacrificing the lost ones to their old rock corpses right.. And by the time you are out you did a heroic deed by sacrificing yourself. Losing your cape, so would that mean like.. “Not all hero’s wear capes” in the end?
Omg y e s
Uwu
O h
@finite locust by “visit the light” it means the ending of the eye of eden level
ohh. Thank you.
no problem!
how do you get 10 stars on your cape?
hey does anyone wanna go on an eden run with me
@tranquil helm you can’t yet
wh
yeah only 7
i saw someone wit 10 stars
I think
@pliant thunder that would be better asked in #looking-for-group-live !
You can get a max of 9 wedges
The best form of altruism 😄
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how many stars would you guys recommend before entering eden for the first time?
as many as you can manage or when you feel like you're ready
@tranquil helm it will be ,not yet
If you saw someone ,|| maybe was on beta or a beta picture ||
10 wedges isn’t possible in beta either
Tell me this how am supposed to beat Eden with all the red rocks coming down losing all of winged light?
you, uh, you just do
You’ll get better at it with time ...
basically youre not gonna save everyone
suggestion: watch the rain on the first phase
I already lost all of winged light
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odd one out :0
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@snow fractal @lean robin thank you for the translation! Why are zone 3 and Zone 4 separated?
There's no zone 4, do you mean zone 2 & 3? ^^
Err
At least I don't remember a 4th o.o
No problem ^^
They're seperated because of a glitch that was still active months ago that disabled the falling rocks of Eden ^^;
But that glitch is long since fixed and honestly I should just edit the map to show that xD
Ah okay.
The rocks do seem to get more intense though past number....
I’d say around 46/47
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Do they? I haven't done Eden in ages so I wouldn't know ^^;
Just laziness really =P
I prefer just relaxing with all my sky friends when I play for the most part ^^
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Since Moxiefox addressed it, I decided to merge Zone 2 & 3 of the map. ^^
Good luck to all Eden-goers and may your Eden runs grant you new friends, wings, and candles!
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I've gone through Eden several times now, but this week was the first time I had gone twice in one week. I was able to save all of the stone children with two runs and it was really satisfying to do so.
@drowsy cliff
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Warped to someone in Eden while I was already dead and this happened.
I even re-lit my friend's candle when it was out.
@mystic zephyr there’s no rain??
Damn tha was a good run 🏃♂️
Nope. Nothing
I was at the stage where you hug the sky kid, but I called to my friend and warped to her.
I came back with no cape but still lit, and re-lit my friend.
Walked all the way to the eye as seen in the video...somewhere
Aaa it’s broken, try uploading directly from your photos app 
I couldn’t save it in my photos, had to save it in my google docs. If I’m allowed to I can put a link here
Not sure about the google docs, but if you can upload it to YouTube, you can link the YT link here at least

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Noob run, 1st time soloing the last area, back with 9 candles
niceee
Nice. I usually manage 13 or 14 ascended candles nowadays per run
Oh my God i finally managed to light up all 63 statues 😱😱😱
I thought i d never be able to do it
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selfie before I got separated from my friends 😦
God the hell behind you...
Hello! I have a question, did Eden reset yet?
Sorry if this isn’t the right place to ask!
Oops nevermind! I just read a few messages from the chat and yes it did 😅
Thank you and sorry!
Anyone knows what is the max ascended candle we can get?
15.75
@torn bloom Thanks! I'm going to Eden soon hope I can get as many as I can
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Is it just me or other face the same problem that after we died the animation keep repeats. I just can't get out from therer
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ru kidding me my game crashed after i took this i didnt get in the checkpoint yet.
oh my god do i have to do it all over again
angy.
Very
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The star hallway?
@golden narwhal sorry, I hope I wasn't rude! It sounds like an issue you should report and you can do that using the #report-a-live-bug channel
how old is your phone, btw?
I don't think it' supposed to happen, no
oh ok. XD I just want to be able to hear the end game music D:
but I never get to XD
I would definitely report it as a bug, so that perhaps TGC can pinpoint if it is device specific, since others have reported it too
cool thanks for the info. I'll definitely report the bug xD
Hopefully they can squash it
Oh?
I kept getting hit by rocks in the section right before the tunnel in beta
when you hide behind that ruin wall waiting
I much prefer being small, I can hide easier too. I find being tall very laggy ?
First part: that one jump
Second part: just hide once and run for it
Third part: hope you don't get spotted getting that star
The middle part is very easy as a chibi since you can just hide under the stairs
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i keep falling in the ground and i have problems running up stairs as chibis i get scared that im not gonna make it up the stairs to hide in the first krill part ksfkdj
my character fake getting up xposed
I managed to light the torch in the forever rock rain... wouldn’t recharge my light but I lit it!
Will I be able to get the heart even tho I accidentally closed the window for app rating :(
@robust osprey the chibi struggles are real, I got krilles just for getting stuck in the stairs
I accidentally closed the pop-up too, and as far as I can tell no
You get a heart for rating the app when you ascend
what does it mean by Eden resetting, and why does the eden bells sometimes ring at the spawn area
aha Ive rated the app twice for some reason but only got a candle from each
Awww :(((
@quartz smelt when eden resets all the stone statues revert back, so you’re able to light them again
If you do eden more than once in a week you can’t light a statue more than once
oh i seeee, so basically its only good to go once every reset
Yes!
Yup
Yea, or if you really messed up the first time you can go again
well, i aint going there again for a long time - scary place
I went once a week before but now I got plenty of ascended candle's and already ascended all spirits
So I go for fun sometimes but not last area
i almost peed myself - a krill saw me and i flew like across the map to avoid it
Go in a friend group, it’s a lot of fun! @quartz smelt
Krill told me - rush b cuka blayat
i has no friend groups
okies
a good way to hide/stop the krill from getting to you is going into the ||tubes/pipes in eden|| cuz they usually cant get you if you run into them
i hate when i try skipping and i start flying on accident and i fly all the way down the rocks...
also when i was hiding after the stairs i walked out too early and the krill above me spiked me andi. lost all my light
ivthought it was gone kdfjd
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Coming back from eden in two different seasons
Season of Rhythm
And
Season of Belonging
@red current it just depends on the time of day you do eden
Regardless, looks pretty
@left knot this was fun! chaotic, but fun! 
Very chaotic, but very fun indeed!
yes! only complications came at the end when I think one or two of us crashed in orbit heh
luckily, that counts as a checkpoint!
Orbit?
They do
okie doke thanks!
👍🏼
Hello~
So.. I use my ascended candles to buy ascended wings?
I always thought you earned them the more you did Eden?
you can use them to buy wing buffs from spirits
nah you only get more from buying them from spirits
each one you buy from a spirit gives you another wingbuff when you're reborn
Each like.. level up in a spirit that asks you to only use ascended candles?
yup!
some spirits have two of those, if you buy them both you'll get two wing buffs from that spirit
i believe only cry and wave have two tiers
yup!
Wow.. I always wondered why that was there in the afterlife.. :/ now I’m mad at myself
I never knew and I’ve played since May 2019
fusjadknsnl you have so many ascended candles
Yes because I had no idea omg
I kept doing Eden because I thought that was how sjsjskskjs
I’m literally a clown
time to go on a spending spree 
I hope
So you’re 100% sure it’s the lock with wings that will give you more ascended wings
Cause I’m having to use my normal candles too and that’s a 🤡🤡
yeee just the lock with wings, increases the amount you're reborn with tho, so if you buy them at home you'll have to die again to get em
Sadly
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I just like broke my game from buying almost all of them
It won’t tell me names on the constellations or the prices or what cosmetics they’re offering lmao
Just reset and it’ll fix
I think I may have just bought all ascended
@rich egret Yup, it did😊 I just thought it was so funny
Waaa congratulations Granny!!

thank you!!
Wait I’ve never seen them stand like that at the end?
I’ve seen like constellations in the back but idk if I’ve ever seen real spirits there until you get the ascended
i think thats when you unlock all the clothing and stuff in each constellation
i think
yes!
elders appear when you finish their constellation
only when you fully, fully complete their constellation and summon them
I was just strolling thru eden for fun and I saw someone do a shortcut of the first area, you dont even have to struggle with rocks or wind
never seen that before
oh yeah! its a good short cut but admittedly uses a lot of wedges 😔
I just walked and flew alittle bit in the end
are we talking about the same? just hold to the right?
Bros we did it
Im now in the pipe, in the first area really high up but I seem to be stuck, wierd.
Just had to say that I’ve always planned my Eden runs.. too scary, etc. Last night I went from Vault to Eden with a few kids I’d met and what a great run! Sooo much fun and such teamwork. And I’d never been so comforted before having friends to fly with after it was over... sigh! Love this game! 
gonna complete vault constellation just so i can see vault dad 
you mean vault mom
OH RIGHT THIS HAPPENED
i was trying to just ascend
but for some reason it wasn’t working and i just exited the dark room???



