Mike I get thats true but its not just about the facts that its possible, but that its deterrent and unnecessary. Not everyone thinks the lack of wiggle room is awesome/fine
#seasons-events-chat
tulip mirage
reef surge
i dont really like it
sinful bay
as long as i get my red cape and my little weird guitar or ukulele i'm happy
worn escarp
lol
reef surge
i think the only things non-pass havers can get is the red cape and a mask
exotic arrow
oh okay, ty
reef surge
at least thats what i was told
vagrant leaf
I’d love it if you could skip half the season completely and still get every cosmetic
sinful bay
can't they get the more oval like guitar?
vagrant leaf
But this is just wishful thinking
sinful bay
i have an image of all the stuff
reef surge
oh yeah
tulip mirage
Why, though? Its a purchased item. Why not?
vagrant leaf
You can be done with most of the quests in 10-20 minutes
reef surge
send?
tribal spindle
Assuming you’re not buying seasonal candle packs, if you buy the pass you can get everything within 43 days. If it’s gifted to you it will take you at least 46. The season lasts for 50 days in total.
tulip mirage
haha not the four hand holding
reef surge
im excited for the pants and the dance emote
sly rock
@vagrant leaf nobody is wishing to skip half the season. all we ask is for maybe a week to a week and a half extra wiggle room so we aren’t screed if we forget a few days
vagrant leaf
@sly rock You already get a week of wiggle room
sly rock
screwed*
sinful bay
wait whoops
sinful bay
it was a different seasonal pic
sly rock
not if you’re gifted
tulip mirage
For reference, 7 days wiggle room is 42 candles, and 2 weeks is 84. So more than now
reef surge
ah you can actually get a couple things without a pass
sinful bay
yup
tulip mirage
and it wouldnt cost them anything. Would make me hesitate less buying
reef surge
thats neat!
vagrant leaf
If you’re gifted, you get a bit under 4 days of wiggle room
sly rock
yes i know
vagrant leaf
Again, seasonal quests take 10 minutes tops
sinful bay
i totally want that santa mask
vagrant leaf
Maybe except the 4 hand holding
tulip mirage
Haha theres never a day when you cant get online to do them?
sly rock
also!!!!! sometimes people can’t afford to buy it right as it comes out
reef surge
so non-pass holders can get a mask, two capes, an instrument, a hair, and both facial hair
tulip mirage
e-goddess this is tbh my main point
sinful bay
how do some people already have the thinker stance?
sly rock
and tbh mike idkk why you’re trying to defend it you should be on our side as a player
tulip mirage
People who cant buy shouldnt have to play obsessively and get every candle to get everything
sly rock
^
vagrant leaf
Despite being very busy with uni, I still find time during my commute both ways
sinful bay
i've seen like 3 people with it already, one instantaneously on the season airing in ||the office|| and two in home
reef surge
why does the thinker emote look like it doesnt level up
sly rock
i’m a full time student and i find time but finding time isn’t the entire point
tulip mirage
Also playing obsessively is sometimes less fulfilling
sly rock
i shouldn’t have to carve time out of my day to collect every single candle to complete thee season
sinful bay
doesn't the thinker emote only come out with one spirit that isn't out yet?
silent pawn
hi not to interrupt but like,,,does anyone have candle locations for today I cannot find one
sinful bay
the wasteland
sly rock
and i only have a few days of wiggle room if i want to get the season pass
reef surge
someone sent a great photo of the candle locations if u image search this channel
sinful bay
also these
vagrant leaf
You only lose 5 candles of the wiggle room and end up with 6 days during which you literally don’t have time to even boot up the game and collect a candle you have to take two steps for 🤔
The only battle pass that doesn’t put some sort of time restriction on the season is Underlords’ proto pass because it’s for the entire duration of the beta
tulip mirage
Haha what I meant is sometimes people are in places without internet
subtle owl
Oooow @worn escarp Thanks
vagrant leaf
Anyway, this argument is getting a bit pointless since I doubt we’ll change each other’s minds
vagrant leaf
And arguing for the sake of arguing isn’t in the spirit of the server, so I concede my point
sly rock
it’s cute that you thought this was an argument though
vagrant leaf
Well, even if it’s a discussion, I don’t feel like there’s a progress towards a conclusion
tulip mirage
Haha I just think itd be useful for some people deciding to purchase, though perhaps not you. Its not necessary for everyone, clearly. And more people buying would be good for Sky
vagrant leaf
That’s just pointlessly condescending lol
exotic arrow
they probably make it tight because they need people to log in every day. man, i hope they add more puffy pants in outside of the season
silent pawn
@sinful bay thank you!
sly rock
umm.. idk how that’s condescendi nag in any way? you were stressing how wiggle room is unnecessary and they said you clearly don’t need it?
nimble yarrow
Where is the spirit today?
nimble yarrow
I thought it was daily?
tame agate
No, it's weekly.
vagrant leaf
It was daily in beta for proper testing
turbid plover
One new spirit a week, with daily quests rotating from prairie to vault
vestal turret
Is there anyone here that stopped playing in the last season and began playing in this season ???
zinc meteor
Seems there’s a bit over 4 days margin this time, a little tight I think, but I’m guessing they’ll have some double candle days again to extend that more
vagrant leaf
I think there certainly might be players who dropped off during Lightseekers
zinc meteor
I’m sure they’ll have stats showing how many players are going to complete the season or not, so they’ll be able to adjust if it is too tight
turbid plover
I wouldn't count on it, but both previous seasons dropped extra candles, either by accident, for compensation, or just as a result of changing quests mid-day
vestal turret
My daughter stopped during lightseekers and began playing yesterday in this season of belongings , she started with the 20 seasonal candles that she had while playing the light seeker season ???
turbid plover
That too
vagrant leaf
Guess they carry over
turbid plover
😳
vestal turret
Yeah , I’m curious if it’s a bug or not
zinc meteor
@vestal turret you get 20 with the season pass
vagrant leaf
@vestal turret You have to actually log in and be in Home to have them converted
tame agate
that's odd, seasonal candles usually transform into regular candles after the season.
vestal turret
Yes I know
zinc meteor
Oh, interesting then. They would have converted to regular candles when she opened the game after the last season ended, but if she didn’t open it until now they might just stay as seasonal
vagrant leaf
So if you don’t go through these steps, they might not be converted
tame agate
EZ start
vestal turret
Weird , I’ll put it in a report
vagrant leaf
It’s possible that seasonal candles are just a variable with no tie to a particular season
turbid plover
Definitely seems like an oversight
zinc meteor
I doubt they record candles for different seasons separately and they can’t convert them now
vagrant leaf
Maybe the conversion is tied to the cutscene, so not triggering it doesn’t convert candles?
turbid plover
I guess it's triggered by the absence of a season, but since she logged into a season with seasonal candles still in inventory, the game finds nothing wrong with that and leaves those candles be, even though they weren't Belonging candles to begin with
tall valley
how the world do ppl already have the capes
turbid plover
iap and.... maybe leftover seasonal candles
tall valley
isnt the first thing like 8 candles?? and the 2nd is 10? 😭
fallen seal
Pay to play my dude
zinc meteor
You get some with the season pass, and there’s been 2 days I think? I got the pass, have the cape and hair, no candles bought
turbid plover
yeah but buying the pass counts as IAP
fallen seal
^^^
If you were gifted the pass, like myself and others, it takes longer to get that stuff
tall valley
bruh
zinc meteor
Can you get the cape without? (Haven’t checked which need the pass or not)
tall valley
-yells at my mom to give me $5-
zinc meteor
Ah ok
turbid plover
Plus, there maaaay be a problem with other seasonal candles getting smuggled into the current season, most likely by accident
fallen seal
F
uneven forum
What area are the candles in at wasteland?
heavy apex
Graveyard
uneven forum
Ah, thanks.
heavy apex
NP
sweet arrow
hi all, does ur seasonal candle(s) looks full like on this picture? because im pretty sure i collected all the candle lights and forged one, but it should look empty instead of full.
willow talon
Ooof
zinc meteor
It only looks empty while you’re collecting, it’s showing 11 full candles is all
hybrid river
yeah, mine too @sweet arrow , someone even reported it as a bug
sweet arrow
oh then im not alone lol. because going back to the graveyard is very scary
hybrid river
yeah, I was confused too 😂 Am I that old that my memory is already screwed? 😂
sweet arrow
@zinc meteor it should indicate empty not full candles because that isnt the case for last season, i just dont want to be misinformed and return back to that terrible graveyard
@hybrid river 😄
patent pawn
Hi. I was wondering about the seasonal hearts. Anyway to get them in exchange for seasonal candles?
sweet arrow
i read that u get one heart from each spirit to unlock the ultimate gift.
hybrid river
Yup, I'm not sure if you still need seasonal candles to get them tho.
But I'm 100% sure you need the pass
zinc meteor
The full candle looks correct to me, I’d say last season was the bug 🙂 you have a number of full candles unless you’ve collected half, and it has the red dot when you can convert it
peak island
You need season candles for the hearts,,,I got to it today and it costs 3 seasonal candles
patent pawn
Where do you do the exchange? , Martyr?
peak island
It’s just there when you get to it, gimme a sec I’ll get a screenshot
patent pawn
Ok thanks
warm seal
they're at the end of every seasonal spirit shop, last branch
patent pawn
Ah, ok. Thanks
edgy marten
peak island
Yea
edgy marten
Yes, you need 3 seasonal candles to get 1 heart
peak island
Shame tbh,,at least we have a week before the next spirit to get it!
dire ingot
I really want the other cosmetics, so I plan on buying the hearts last 👀
peak island
My plan too! I’m gonna try hoarding candles
prisma fiber
if you dont skip any day in this season, it totals up to around 250 ?
peak island
Oh wowwwwww
prisma fiber
*****and if you collect every candle every day
zinc meteor
300 if you have the pass I think? 50 days x 6
dim fossil
Yo
Does anyone know where the seasonal spirit is for this week?
peak island
The season spirit is in prairie yeah! It’s not in a new area of anything
dim fossil
I know but where in prarie
dire ingot
@dim fossil hey there! 
it’s on || the muffin rock||
peak island
^^
prisma fiber
omg thats a cute name for it,,
dire ingot
Y’all pls spoiler tag details^^ 
prisma fiber
will do!
peak island
Ofc!! I didn’t realise lol
dire ingot
Thanks lol
dim fossil
Hh thank you very much Panda ^^
dire ingot
Yw! 
sinful bay
how do people already have the red cape? doesn't make sense!
elder parcel
Buying packs
mellow saffron
They bought the pass.
sinful bay
oh
elder parcel
Or that, if you didn’t get gifted one ye
I’m not buying anything until they all come out
dire ingot
I got the cape, but haven’t bought any candle packs.
sinful bay
w
peak island
Yeah, if you buy the pass you can get the cape with only an extra day or two of candle collecting
dire ingot
It’s probably from the extra candles I got by buying the pass
peak island
Yup
sinful bay
oh
turbid plover
Yea
sinful bay
arrg i wish i could get the pass
elder parcel
True I think if you bought an individual pass you could get it but if u got gifted one u can’t
mellow saffron
I'm saving up too, mochiiii
elder parcel
Call me mochiiii
peak island
If you’re gifted one you don’t get the 20 candles :c
elder parcel
Yep
mellow saffron
Yes
keen vapor
if you play religiously
elder parcel
If you have the pass
keen vapor
😞
loud tiger
can't find the last candle bunch
got the one on the rock in the water, got the one by the crab roast, and also the one in the cave near the end
mellow saffron
If you have money
loud tiger
where's the fourth?
peak island
If you can get the candles every day you should be able to get all the cosmetics?
elder parcel
With the pass
loud tiger
nvm gott it
elder parcel
Bc otherwise TOU wont have access to Th e final cosmetics
peak island
Ohhhh
muted basin
@lusty echo I can take you
elder parcel
It’s in the graveyard
lusty echo
That’s okay dude 👌 @muted basin im not going to be playing much since I have some stuff to do
muted basin
Ah I see, good luck tho
rain garden
is there a new spirit every day or every week? i’m sure someone already asked
peak island
Every week!
worn shard
@sinful bay What are you doing?
I add spoiler in this chart, why do you upload the…
sinful bay
i'm very sorry, i will delete! 💙
it's gone! i think i deleted the right one, very sorry ):
keen vapor
@rain garden week
worn shard
@sinful bay it’s ok, thanks for understanding.
I’m annoying about some people use my charts without permission.
They ignore spoiler, and a certain person delete my copyright and add his original name😫
Sorry for complaining.
modern prairie
Where are the candles in wastes? At the ship like usual?
solid otter
No they are at graveyard
formal sedge
chrome sandal
theres one in a skull, at the crab spit, one on top of a pipe thing
dire ingot
@worn shard I’m so sorry to hear that! That’s not ok. We very much appreciate your work here 
chrome sandal
and one at that one shelter closest to the big plant
modern prairie
Just 4?
supple lark
Anyone knows which spirit will appear next week?
lusty echo
Isle
cyan saffron
I’m saving up for valley because I really want her cosmetics
glossy pawn
Where’s the crab spit thing? Is that where one of the candle bunches is?
glossy pawn
Ah thank you
kindred niche
np!
hearty ermine
Hey TGC, I haven’t heard the rationale behind spacing out the introduction of the seasonal spirits, so there maybe be some necessity that negates my two cents. I’m going to give it anyway. :)
Last season, I completed each of the seasonal spirits several times. They were new and interesting, and one of my favorite things to do once my other daily sky tasks were finished was to go and help a group do the Wasteland spirit (those crabs!), the Vault spirit (solo players sometimes ran out of light), or the Forest spirit (that rain!). Showing up and flipping crabs over to help the noobs was a serious source of fun for me! Especially whenever the seasonal candles were in that level, I’d almost always spend some time helping with the spirit. I’m concerned that our enjoyment of the season is going to be lessened by making the last couple of spirits only available for a relatively short time. It doesn’t allow as much time for some folks to become experts and get to help others. Instead of feeling like there’s a whole new world of spirits open to us, we’ll do the newest one and then spend the rest of the week grinding for seasonal candles in levels where there is no seasonal spirit.
Have you also considered that now the seasonal candle placement (like in Wasteland today) is sort of a “spoiler” for what the spirit’s path will be, without the spirit being there?
Anyway, that’s my two cents. Thanks for reading. And thanks for making the game’s regular spirits visible all the time, that’s really cool.
dire ingot
@hearty ermine would you mind posting this in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived ? It might get buried in this channel before tgc can read it
copper valve
Yes.
gusty fossil
ya that’s good feedback I haven’t seen before. For example we only have two weeks for the hard wasteland spirit to complete it but get 7 ish to complete the easy prairie spirit lol
azure holly
Do anybody knows the 🔥 (the last belonging ) ? What does it work?
dire ingot
Having them release weekly will mean that more people are doing the wasteland one at the same time, though. So it’ll be easier to get help
icy marten
A lot of puzzles rely on two-player doors
dire ingot
@azure holly what do you mean?
kindred niche
The staggered releases help ensure that the emote quests will be flooded with players when they're released and make it easier to do.
narrow summit
Guys how many seasonal bunches are? I only found 3
icy marten
I think they want to know what it is..
kindred niche
The ultimate reward?
dire ingot
@narrow summit four!
kindred niche
It's a fire place! I think it's going to be like a chat table
narrow summit
@dire ingot thank you!!
dire ingot
Oh! Yes, a campfire. We don’t know what it does yet.
potent parcel
so every week, the spirit changes?
kindred niche
a new spirit is added
potent parcel
ah
kindred niche
the old ones will still be there, so it's not like they're swapped out
potent parcel
what spirit(s) is already here?
kindred niche
only prairie is out rn
potent parcel
ah alright cheers
marble maple
does anyone still need to do the 4 person quest? I don’t have close friends to do it with 
lusty jetty
i do but rn i'm attempting to find these candles in the graveyard
marble maple
alright
coarse junco
#looking-for-group-live will find you people
marble maple
oh thanks
lusty echo
What if... hear me out... the ultimate gift is a campfire instrument that you can carry around and place down when you need to recharge
loud tiger
I'm imagining that's what it is
lusty echo
I’m
loud tiger
and people can sit down near the campfire and talk, similar to a table
lusty echo
Excitement
loud tiger
just guessing
molten basin
Definitely looks like it could be a campfire to recharge with, which would kind of be in keeping with the whole warm-friendly-family vibe we’ve got going on this season.
loud tiger
now we need a full on pop up tent
dire ingot
I just want to have a cozy campfire with people sitting around it, playing guitar.
loud tiger
you're guiding a buncha moths through wasteland, when suddenly, a krill spots you
potent solstice
Is season of gratitude ever making a comeback because that’s the only season I would pay for a season pass on 🤤
loud tiger
the moths freak out, while you calmly take a full sized yurt out of it's interdimensional storage and hide within
lusty echo
@loud tiger guessing moths refer to newer players..?
loud tiger
indeed
in regards to their brown cloak colour, wonky flight, and attraction to shinies
lusty echo
Haha that’s adorable
loud tiger
probably the cutest nickname for newbies i've seen
molten basin
I LOVE that newbies are called moths that’s so cute
prisma fiber
I think I've also heard the term "brownies" aswell! Very cute nicknames for new players
molten basin
I guess I would still kinda be a moth?
potent solstice
haha I haven’t touched any of the cape colors yet I’m just saving up for white
loud tiger
once i get that seasonal cape
i shall be a moth no more
from the seasons pass?
niice
it's the thing i want the most
in addition to the lute
lusty echo
Flute?
lusty echo
Ohhhh
potent solstice
the ukelele thing
prisma fiber
basically a medieval ukulele ! it looks beautiful
lusty echo
I haven’t heard what they sound like yet
DOES IT SOUND LIKE ONE?!?!!?!?
A CONCERT UKE???!?!?!?!
potent solstice
Maybe
loud tiger
perhaps
potent solstice
I don’t even touch my piano a lot lololol it’s there for decoration at this point
molten basin
I want the guitar so baaaaaddd
lusty echo
The piano is definitely on my checklist
prisma fiber
the lute is not available just yet, but hopefully it will sound gorgeous!
potent solstice
The white cape is on my checklist but 50 hearts is a lot especially when no one on ur friends list is sending light back
😔
loud tiger
kinda sad we couldn't get the panpipes from lightseekers though
lusty echo
Bro friend me :0
loud tiger
that would've been amazing
lusty echo
I’m on daily
loud tiger
i am so proud of this community
potent solstice
Oof could u send me a qr
lusty echo
Yeah !!
prisma fiber
Aww, how sweet!! I have the black cape on my wishlist, remember to limit your spendings and send light daily! I think you'll earn that white cape soon!:DD
cyan saffron
Question where is the cooking crabplace
prisma fiber
wasteland, ||In the graveyard||
potent solstice
I spent my 10 hearts for the piano because I wanted to play the Up Married life song badly but then learned the first few notes and stopped XD
cyan saffron
Where in wasteland I’ve been looking for and hour
fossil gulch
to the right of graveyard area
cyan saffron
Ahh thanks
rapid olive
are seasonal spirits only in one section at a time this season? like not all out at once?
mellow saffron
Yes
hard vine
rapid olive
ahhhh! thank you!
rapid olive
thought I was missing something when I was running around haha
rapid olive
thank you! that was the first one I tried to find, so I was a little lost after that
potent solstice
@frigid valve oh I can send u one back
rotund parcel
Where are the seasonal candles today?
vapid kayak
minor ore
the area after the 1 krill area
pearl sand
Yo. Where can I find seasonal wax in Golden wasteland?
lunar hemlock
its in the graveyard section of wasteland, it's scattered quite far apart
nocturne forge
when do daily season candles change?
trim relicBOT
The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset is on Sunday November 24 at 00:00 PST (In 4 days 5 hours 25 minutes 53 seconds)
loud tiger
in 5 hours, 25 minutes, 50 seconds
prisma fiber
change locations?
loud tiger
yes
nocturne forge
I'm new to this game, no idea where anything is
loud tiger
you'll get the hang of it
nocturne forge
Should i unlock all locations first before buying season pass
loud tiger
the levels don't take too long to unlock, since the regular spirits have nothign to do with the seasonal ones
nocturne forge
I guess I have to rush this :< so I can work on season stuff quickly
worn shard
@dire ingot Thanks😢
Is there a channel on this discord to discuss issues with other players?
I will not talk about this problem if it is against the rules.
dire ingot
@worn shard if you’d like to discuss an issue with another player, I’d suggest DMing one of the mods to talk privately.
trim relicBOT
@frigid valve, soliciting and offering currency or trades is against the rules in this server. Please edit or remove your message
frigid valve
Sorry, my bad
woven dune
Where are the candles in waistland?
worn shard
@dire ingot @sacred elbow I appreciate you.
I will do.
dire ingot
@woven dune they’re in || the graveyard area. ||
woven dune
I just went through there and didn’t see any
silver sapphire
hey um idk if this is just me or im just silly but i cant find seasonal candles like anywhere in the game
woven dune
^^^
silver sapphire
like theres none in the maze, none in the prairie, none etc etc
dire ingot
@silver sapphire the seasonal candles are always in the level that the quest giver is in front of. Today they’re in ||wasteland, in the graveyard area||
@woven dune let me see if I can find the map someone posted earlier. One sec
woven dune
Ok thank you
silver sapphire
ah thanks - kinda forgot that part lol
hoshi do u want to do a candle run with me?
gritty horizon
Try starting in the crab roasting party area 😂
dire ingot
@woven dune do you mind if I DM it to you? I’m on mobile right now and spoiler tagging pictures is a pain lol
rocky harness
can you dm it to me @dire ingot
silver sapphire
me too pls lol
dire ingot
K!
lunar hemlock
why, is there seasonal hearts? just to unlock the final gift? what's the purpose of that?
isn't it just the same as getting it at the end like other seasons?
weary trail
sort of? but maybe helps players new to seasons understand the structure better?
lunar hemlock
hmm, feels rather convoluted, adding additional currency to the already existent currency
candles buy non cosmetics, hearts buy cosmetics, but ascended candles buy level ups and friendship lvls and SOME friendship abilities, and event candles buy everything seasonal, but event hearts buy ultimate gift
see what I mean? it's not consistent, it gets very confusing (I was confused when I first saw the seasonal heart)
they sound the same, but all of them do different things
(sorry I m just asking cause maybe they talked about it in livestream or something)
coarse heron
I need help getting the spirit in golden wasteland
coarse junco
personally i dont mind as long as its balanced with the amount of candles we can earn over the course of the season. it's a rather small little bit of experimentation, so
@coarse heron what spirit?
dark vector
@coarse heron if you mean the seasonal spirit, it isn’t out yet
coarse junco
there is no seasonal spirit there yet
dark vector
the spirits are released once a week, this week’s spirit is prairie
lunar hemlock
well, I m pretty sure it is, but just wondering what was the reasoning behind all that convolution, maybe I should drop it in the suggestions for them to review XD
coarse heron
Oh. I saw the emote on the list so I thought it was there nvm
coarse junco
i like how things can work a little differently each time. spices it up
lunar hemlock
XD ya, but it's always a little hectic on the first day
I was freaking out a little on the first day worried I m missing stuffs
white dock
I’ve toured new areas in Dawn, Daylight Prairie, Forest & Vally of Triumph.
Any new areas in Wasteland or Vault?
white dock
Excellent
lunar hemlock
there's a nice spot in wasteland, and vault is behind an annoying door again (curses)
white dock
Oh.. oops. Not Prairie. Just the other 3
lunar hemlock
do you need the location? or are you just confirming?
lunar hemlock
haha have fun exploring, my favorite thing to do too XD
honest badge
what’s the ultimate gift for season of belonging?
crystal acorn
@honest badge it’s a campfire- however no one knows exactly what it looks like, and what it does.
turbid plover
and even if someone were to find out, they'd be krilled for talking about cheating
honest badge
the mysterious campfire :0
crystal acorn
Sure as heck when it comes to beta and we get it I’m not saying a dang thang about it. LOL
rancid trellis
hey so im new to discord and such, can someone tell me how to get to pinned photos ?
rocky harness
there’s a new area in the prairie?
turbid plover
it's our crimmus gift 
actually, no
prairie has no new area, for as much as we know
crystal acorn
@rancid trellis press on the name of the chat room up top
honest badge
it didn’t last season either though
turbid plover
the other 5 worlds have some changes to them (excluding spirits)
rocky harness
ah okay
exotic anchor
What spirit are we getting next?
turbid plover
If it follows the beta order, ||we're getting Isle next||
but don't count entirely on it
exotic anchor
Isle is the... fluffy pants spirit?
crystal acorn
@rancid trellis graveyard area. With all the krill
rancid trellis
i know its in that one area with all four of the dragons, i’m just too scared to look 😭
crystal acorn
LOL.
exotic anchor
I can help you Tordilol
rancid trellis
those things FRIGHTEN me lol
rancid trellis
@exotic anchor that would be wonderful !!
turbid plover
but I have a strong, strong feeling ||Forest|| will be the last to arrive, beta and non-beta content considered
exotic anchor
If you want someone to guide you I can. Just send me a QR @rancid trellis
rancid trellis
alright, tysm !! give me two seconds ((:
crystal acorn
So Isle is next
exotic anchor
Which is forest?
Spirit wise, no spoily
I calculated it and whichever spirit is next I’ll most likely have more than enough szn candles for it
gloomy sparrow
Where are the bundles today
paper holly
the seasonal candle bundles or the regular?
willow talon
Sure
lofty tiger
Do we get enough seasonal candles at the end of the season to unlock everything in the spirits' constellations with the seasonal pass?
finite lotus
Ugh, I can't find the fourth seasonal candle =_=
ruby kestrel
Scary to find them
finite lotus
Fur sure
ruby kestrel
From the tip top mountain I look before I go and watch the krill pathway
dark vector
try doing an image search in this channel. some community members have posted pictures
limpid crystal
Is the seasonal spirit in prairie yeah?
candid rose
Yes this week’s spirit is in prairie
limpid crystal
Ty ty, which specific area in prairie is it?
candid rose
First area after the meeting hub
ionic eagle
Hello people! May I ask where are the seasonal bunches of candles today? I can’t find them ;-;
limpid crystal
Thank you!
candid rose
Wasteland graveyard
ionic eagle
Imma go look ,thank you!
sterile flame
hpbksatvjudjkqapft
forgot the candles
limpid crystal
I noticed there’s ||some new areas||! Is there one in prairie?
minor ore
nope
limpid crystal
Good to know 😂
rain garden
.Hello everyone, where is the crabs campfire? I can't find it anywhere
dark vector
@rain garden go right from the catapult in wasteland graveyard (area with 4 krills)
rain garden
i saw it thank you
potent solstice
Someone sent this and I saved this but I don’t rememebr who it was I’m so sorry 😢 but here @tacit monolith
violet pike
Oml I came at a perfect time
oak fox
Well the original image was made by lyjii and we have that image pinned in #questions-and-help
Not sure who made the edits to add the candles
violet pike
Is anyone willing to help me out please
I need to fulfill the 4 player handhold and go through wasteland
dark vector
@violet pike #looking-for-group-live
violet pike
@dark vector Ty
tacit monolith
@potent solstice thank you so much!
indigo smelt
Boop
Question
When it came to the first seasonal spirit to hit live was that also the first to hit beta?
If that’s so who’s up next?
coarse junco
yup! if it continues the order, next will be ||isle!||
crystal acorn
You can tap the stars in the seasonal constellation for a daily countdown of when they will be released.
coarse junco
true, but it doesn't tell you which spirit it will be
so most people still don't get much info from doing that
mellow compass
Hi, I just joined discord so I’m sorry if this is repetitive... how do I share my extra adventure passes?
coarse junco
you'll have to see your friend that you want to share with in game. when you tap on them to bring up the friend constellation, a little hand with the seasonal icon will show up to the left of (iirc) the high five emote
mellow compass
Quick answer, thanks so much!
coarse junco
no problem! and yeah, i'm always lurking, waiting for new questions to answer 
fervent comet
oof i still havent held hands in Wasteland
anyone up for it?
coarse junco
you should try #looking-for-group-live 😉
coarse junco
bright walrus
morning totally forgot the candles yesterday anyone know where they are? on the single ship with 1 krill?
ruby kestrel
They are located where the other krills are with the catapult in the area
bright walrus
oh wow thanks a lot
rain garden
Are the seasonal candles located in every levels or just one
Cus I can’t seem to find it
heavy apex
☝️ Look above your comment theres a photo of the locations
rain garden
So it’s just in the wasteland for today?
heavy apex
yep!
heavy apex
unless the reset has already happened
turbid plover
One more hour
cobalt pike
wait
turbid plover
sky runs on Pacific Time, daylight savings included
bright walrus
do we need to do the spirit in wasteland that difficult one?
well we don't need to but I guess that's the one right now
kindred niche
the spirits are released once a week so the wasteland one isn't out now
the spirit will probably go along the same paths as the candles do though 👀
gloomy sparrow
!er
trim relicBOT
The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset is on Sunday November 24 at 00:00 PST (In 4 days 56 minutes 47 seconds)
bright walrus
oh weird right yeah it shouldn't be there then it's kinda strange seeing the light at the camp fire
restive tangle
Hello
nocturne forge
How do you get season hearts?
coarse junco
seasonal hearts are the last node on the seasonal spirit trees, they require the pass and cost 3 seasonal candles.
vestal maple
not sure if this is a spoiler but ||what is the instrument that non-pass holders can get called? I know the other one is a guitar but is it different in terms of sound?||
coarse junco
some sort of lute-like instrument. i've heard lute/biwa/cittern
coarse junco
aw 
vestal maple
ah ok, thanks
pale galleon
Guys wheres todays quest spirit?
lament herald
anyone know where the seasonal candles are
split spruce
why is the chat so ded on 3rd day of season
sinful bay
i thought it was a shamisen!
eager geode
peak swallow
|| seasonal candles are in new area of vault ||
sinful bay
oh
eager geode
glacial skiff
|| how does one fine new area? ||
sinful bay
lmao i was about to ask it
split spruce
there's a new area in Vault?
split spruce
wow thank you, you found all of them so fast
eager geode
No
split spruce
?
eager geode
Np
split spruce
oh lol
eager geode
Auto correct
split spruce
thx
restive tangle
I already got mine ^~^
Finished first spirit
Now I gotta save up for the next to get them pants
split spruce
lol
eager geode
U will have 38 season candles when new spirit comes out
If u don’t buy the HEART
If u play every day
restive tangle
I’m having 29 candles when thar spirit comes out
eager geode
Why no pass
turbid plover
Interesting how the new red cape has the entire inside glow when it is close to fully charging
restive tangle
I have the pass
ashen escarp
How many candles is the heart?
ashen escarp
Ty
restive tangle
I can’t wait till I get 6
eager geode
It’s gonna take 274 to complete season
crystal acorn
Finished the first spirit tree. 1 heart done- 5 to go.
ashen escarp
274 Candles?
restive tangle
Exactly it’s 2 more than last time
ashen escarp
That means it’ll be close, but possible to complete everything starting from zero candles
split spruce
im k.inda sad that you can't get the emote upgrades without pass
but meh, they're good enough
restive tangle
Did you get the pass today ?
ashen escarp
No, I got gifted it day one
restive tangle
Ahh I see
restive tangle
Yes
ashen escarp
Alright, thank you
glacial skiff
|| am i not able to pick up crab in new vault area tunnel?||
restive tangle
Things may not be accurate to 100% but it’s close enough
crystal acorn
@glacial skiff no they are extra large so they can’t be picked up
restive tangle
Depends if there the really really ||big crabs||
I am sooo excited for thar guitar spirit to come out
peak swallow
is there any masks this season?
restive tangle
Check the image I sent earlier
worn shard
@restive tangle Thank you for using my chart, but please don't upload it to other places🙂 The chart is pinned this channel.
restive tangle
Your welcome ^~^ and sure
timber turtle
Where are the seasonal candles?
vestal maple
@timber turtle they're in a new area of the vault, to the right of the entrance
sinful bay
new area in vault
dire ingot
@restive tangle that chart is already in the pinned messages for this channel, and the creator has asked that it not be shared by others without permission. Please remove your post.
dire ingot
Obviously I wasn’t involved in that conversation. I was going off of what I could see here in the channel. Thank you.
restive tangle
Ok
sinful bay
what's the order of the seasonal spirit by name(?)s? i know this week was the popper/fire crackler one but when was the dancing one?
restive tangle
Yeah it’s a lil weird
dusk lark
How do you do the sit with a stranger quest?
Do you just wait for someone?
Which area is better?
pliant gazelle
just sit on a bench w someone you aren't friends w yet,, you can probably wait and get someone in vault since people are collecting seasonal candles
pliant gazelle
no problem ! :D
oak sierra
Where is the new area in vault?
dusk lark
||Right when you enter the vault fly to your right||
oak sierra
thank you!
eager geode
Season candles in new door at vault
fading dune
@eager geode How did you make the borders?
eager geode
Magic
brittle moon
magic?
eager geode
Lol look at the bottom right
warm seal
new vault area reminds me of 2001
loud tiger
where are the quests located today?
tribal star
Vault
zinc meteor
They're always through the portal the quest giver stands next to
loud tiger
thx
clever geode
How much seasonal candles do you get from lighting all 4? Is it 2?
tribal spindle
@clever geode When you light all 4 seasonal candle bunches, you get exactly 1 seasonal candle.
clever geode
Thank you @tribal spindle 
untold quail
wheres the new door
dark vector
@untold quail in vault, once you enter (right in the lobby even before you go forward and down the corridor), go right. you need another person to help you open the door.
glossy zenith
We really need to wait a week to catch the spirit?
dark vector
yes @glossy zenith
glossy zenith
dapper bear
potent solstice
Anybody heading down to the new door? I checkpointed myself on stage 4 oof
vagrant leaf
Yeah
But you’ll get sent to the checkpoint if you enter with someone
Enter a different stage and go back home, this resets the checkpoint
crystal lake
hallow grail
tame hatch
I can't open the door because I'm totally alone lol how sad
whoop nvm had to complain i guess xD
hollow arch
Hi, How many season candle each day possibly can obtain per day now? Thx in advance.
tardy mist
5 seasonal candles without the pass! And 6 if you purchase it~
tame hatch
By the way, is the pass still worth if i don't buy it right at the beginning of the season ? Because i can't right now but in a few days yes-
Like, will I still get everything ? xd
mellow compass
Well for sure, you’d be able to get 4 candles from quests instead of 2, and you’ll get a free one each day from the offering stone at Home. Then I -think- it also offers unique cosmetics. Oh dear, misinformation, my apologies.
vagrant leaf
@mellow compass This hasn’t been the case since Gratitude
All players get 4 quests, the difference now is only one candle that you claim daily at Home
@tame hatch There’s a leeway of 46 candles before you lose the ability to get everything
If you buy the pass yourself, that is
If you’re gifted, this drops to 26 candles
zinc meteor
@tame hatch check the pinned messages, there’s a graphic showing all the things you can collect, and it shows what you can get with candles and what requires the pass
If you want anything that requires the pass, you probably want the pass 🙂
tame hatch
Okay thank you !!
Yeah I know that i need the pass to get everything ^^ I was just wondering if I could still buy everything even if i don't pass the pass right now but in a few days :) @zinc meteor thanks !
ruby schooner
New door in Vault? Which level is this door at?
tame hatch
Yup ! On the right when you enter the Vault ^^
ruby schooner
Thanks
hardy tree
So there's two new children of light in the new vault area, and there was one new one in the valley maze. Was there a new one in wasteland too?
glossy gull
No
acoustic fjord
there isn’t.
hardy tree
cool, thanks
acoustic fjord
no problem
stuck rain
How do you get to the vault area?
heavy apex
the new area?
stuck rain
Ye
heavy apex
if so, then once u enter the vault, the entrance will be on ur right
u will need 2 ppl to get in tho
coz theres a gate
cyan ruin
With the new areas in each Kingdoms, will there be new Wings to collect besides the Spirits?
heavy apex
yep!
cyan ruin
Alright!
hybrid river
Not a new star for every new area tho
steep terrace
So what was the answer to
When we need to buy the pass
To still be able to get everything
Does the ultimate gift require seasonal candles ?
reef surge
yes
you need seasonal candles to get the seasonal hearts at the end of each spirit
which is what you use to get the final prize
i think someone did the math and you can go most the season without the pass snd still get everything
i wouldnt wait longer than you can though, just to be safe
zinc meteor
Do you actually need the pass to get the ultimate reward? Oh, checked the pinned message, yes. You need the pass to get the hearts, you need the hearts to get the reward
reef surge
yea
vagrant leaf
You get the ultimate reward from the quest giver, and the entire tree is pass locked
So you don’t have much choice
reef surge
about what
steep terrace
xD
I cant get the pass today
So im wondering if i get it later ill still be able to collect everything
woven oar
If you do all the quests everyday, should be fine even 2-3 weeks in
vagrant leaf
You do have to collect every candle every day to get away with buying the pass towards the end of the season
steep terrace
Okaayyyyy thanks guys
Cause i found a wiki page with all the prices but they didnt put the prices for the hearts
reef surge
well the first heart is 3 so
next epoch
what floor can i relive the soirit in vault?
reef surge
i assume the rest are too
steep terrace
Hmm
woven oar
Yeah all of em are 3
reef surge
im not sure where the spirit is, i havent gotten on :/
woven oar
The 3rd floor @next epoch with the growing trees
steep terrace
I got one more question 😅 about the items you get with the pass..they dont cost candles right ?
reef surge
na
woven oar
Yep the pass items are free
reef surge
everything off to the side is free wih the pass
steep terrace
Okii so only the hearts then
next epoch
thak you @woven oar !
reef surge
well everything up the middle too
woven oar
No problem! XD
steep terrace
errant lagoon
3
steep terrace
Thank youuu
haughty hatch
Hey so,,, are the candles hidden in vault today
Bc they’ve been hidden every other day
And
I just want
To get them
woven oar
They're in the new area hol
woven oar
The valley candle too
next epoch
yes
haughty hatch
Ik about valley
Dude I won’t find it on my own could I please have a hint ;’)
How near ||to office||
next epoch
AAAA SPOILER IT NARU SHHH
woven oar
Hahahha sorry
next epoch
lololol
woven oar
||like across||
haughty hatch
Sigh I’ll have to figure it out I guess
gloomy sparrow
Where are the seasonal candles today
gloomy sparrow
How do I get there
woven oar
||right across from the office entrance ||
woven oar
Np
knotty spoke
Does anyone know where seasonal candles are today?
ruby schooner
In the vault, near where one enters the vault. There is a new room. Near the chat benches (home portal)
knotty spoke
Ahhh ok thanks!
fickle basin
@haughty hatch|| the gate entrance is to the right and up once you walk into the vault||
misty edge
How much for the violen?
coarse junco
@misty edge look at the pinned messages, there is a spoiler tagged image with the price of the guitar.
sacred elbow
there are two guitars with one of them been a lute
coarse junco
there is no violin
coarse junco
yes, there's a piano haha
sacred elbow
that instrument so confusing to indentify
misty edge
Omg im so rekt lol
sacred elbow
It’s ok!!
coarse junco
in that case it's 10 hearts from the valley cheer emote
sacred elbow
you can do this Jinjin !!
coarse junco
misty edge
Yes i can!💪😎
manic bolt
Location of seasonal candles today ?
molten siren
Is anyone else having problems with seasonal spirits. I go to the area they are supposed to be in but they do not show up ?
sacred elbow
Oh that’s because only one will show up, one spirit per week !
So this week’s spirit would be Prairie
where the meatball dome at ( located in the area after you fly down from the lobby )
Giving out passes here is against the #old-𝚛ules can you please remove it
forest ether
Oh sorry
manic dragon
Has anyone met the spirit in Valleys new area? He appears at random times right behind the new gate and dissapears after a while. It’s a bug, right?
sacred elbow
Thank you! Just don’t want you to be flooded with the dms !
@manic dragon And it is a bug !
The Valley Spirit hasn’t come out yet
so you can skip that one
forest ether
That sucks though because I have no use for it
sacred elbow
hmm do you know any friends that you might want to give out?
forest ether
Mmmmm no. I’ll go and see though. Tome to hoard candles to unlock the ability
sacred elbow
good luck!
coarse junco
@manic bolt im unsure if anyone's posted a guide but if you simply walk through the new vault matrix, you'll see them all no problem
coarse junco
so fancy, right?
sacred elbow
Agree!
forest ether
Thanks I just gave it to a stranger :3
sacred elbow
yay! hope you and your friends enjoy this season!
bright walrus
hmmm hi where are the orange candles in the new (if that area is new) underground area in vault?
sacred elbow
bright walrus
Ty
steady island
So can u only get seasonal candles at vault today? ( and the quest of course)
heavy apex
yes
steady island
Well then.
molten siren
@sacred elbow thanks! I was really confused
sacred elbow
You're welcome @molten siren Big thanks to @/Yoochun for posting the image!
_full image would be at in: seasonal-chat has: image _
gentle epoch
Is anyone else having trouble finding the seasonal spirits? I know where to go but so far only collected the spirit from daylight prairie. I don’t see any of the other spirits in the other locations? Any help??
sacred elbow
Currently only one spirit appears per week
indigo smelt
I hope the next seasonal spirit is the dancing one
sacred elbow
meaning you'll have to wait for other spirit to come!
|| coughs and it is in Isle, according to Beta and the countdown in live||
gentle epoch
So just daylight prairie for the whole week?
sacred elbow
Mhmm!
indigo smelt
Oh for the beta players in here, the ultimate reward out there yet?
sacred elbow
Not yet
indigo smelt
Heh ok
gentle epoch
So anyone else who has the new emotes is a beta player
sacred elbow
Well Beta and Live are two separate things
indigo smelt
Unless your beta yourself or watch vids
sacred elbow
Mhmm
sacred elbow
Well there are some emotes from other seasons
like Lightseekers, Gratitude and even WInter
indigo smelt
@sacred elbow so the first spirit to hit live, was it the first to hit beta?
gentle epoch
Not the dancing emote though
sacred elbow
Which Winter only available for the soft launch players
@indigo smelt Yes, Prairie was the first one to pop up
for Beta
buoyant arrow
What level is the new vault area on?
indigo smelt
So according to beta who should hit next
sacred elbow
the first level as soon you enter the Vault gate!
buoyant arrow
Oh thank you!
sacred elbow
Should be on the right side where you ( and other person ) lighting up the door!
@indigo smelt || Isle in the revamped cave||
indigo smelt
Oh I remember that one! Not my preferred next but not my least
sacred elbow
|| the dancing emote||
gentle epoch
Awesome, thanks everyone 🙏🖖🙏
sacred elbow
you're welcome!
indigo smelt
Tbh the ultimate reward or what I presume to be (looking at the quests spirit) looks like a campfire
sacred elbow
^u^ hopefully
winter egret
Anyone know where the isle of dawns light child is at the end
The one past the cloud tunnel
sacred elbow
@winter egret Should be at the second level up for the cave, inside the tunnel )
winter egret
Thanks
sacred elbow
Im honestly excited for the emotes to come!
indigo smelt
The whole season tbh was really well made
indigo smelt
They really went out with this
sacred elbow
Mhmm mhm!
indigo smelt
Well they went out with all seasons but I can’t help but feel amazed at this one
Expesially the ||forest season area||
I am confused tho
These areas, they have children of light which those are only in permanent areas (the collectibles that increase your wing cap)
Are they like staying
Or something
sacred elbow
Should be!
rain garden
Im hoping that’s so. Especially ||hidden forest’s||. Just found it last night and can’t wait to hide there for music
sacred elbow
pfpfpf
indigo smelt
I guess it makes sense they add new permanent areas
But through a season
It feels weird
rain garden
They took out the long steps in vault from last season. I didnt realize that until i tried to fly up and it was just empty Dx
I was shook lol
indigo smelt
It was fun but I can understand why it was taken out
It wasn’t that meaningful other than the season
floral rapids
Anyone knows Which seasonal spirit gives white cape and when is it coming out ?
indigo smelt
Which cape
floral rapids
So we have to wait for 3 more weeks to get that cape 🤔
floral rapids
I'm close to reaching 50 hearts, not sure if I should go for white cape and get done with it or wait for 2 weeks + hahah
floral rapids
Yup !
sacred elbow
|| funny that both white capes are in Vault, except for Gratitude's fluffy white cape which was at Wasteland, not fun 
||
floral rapids
Maybe I'll grab the white cape afterall, 3 weeks is a bit too long and I'll need a ton of candles to get it anyhow
raw shore
Which floor are the candles on? 🙈
sacred elbow
in Vault's new area!
Check on in: seasonal-chat has: image
to see where they are at
raw shore
OH YEAH 🤦🏻♂️
sacred elbow
( Especially Yoochun one )
rain garden
Dude kudos to the folks who make the helpful images for the seasons. The details of some of these seasonal candle maps are just 👌👌👌
I especially love the drawn ones
sacred elbow
Bless them really!
exotic valley
I bought a seasonal pass uwu
Does anyone have a list of all the items that will be available?
swift flicker
Is it just me or did lightseekers have more candles around?
swift flicker
Hopefully lol
coarse junco
lightseekers had a week where 8 candle bunches were available in the levels
sacred elbow
mhmm
coarse junco
belonging doesnt
sacred elbow
but who knows?
zinc sigil
What floor is the new area in vault?
sacred elbow
the very first floor!
rain garden
Where’s the candles?
zinc sigil
Oki thanks
rain garden
Ty
sacred elbow
you're welcome!