#Highlight messages for points' reform

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meager lodge
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I personally think we should use the tehnologia! at our disposal for greater good - Twitch allows setting a limit of used redeems per stream per person (example - CerberAktUaLLy does it with her regular confetti, only 2 per chatter for the stream, but her "premium" confetti stays limitless), so we should let a limit for points-for-highlight to 2 or 3 per stream per chatter, and make the price a bit cheaper - at least in line with the toggle redeems or possibly lower, like 15-20 thousands - still steep enough, but not inaccessible by new viewers in ~15 streams with high activity and evilGamba, or by gifting for points

This is not necessarily tied to doing something with bits' highlights or any other ones, this is a different matter - making points' highlights more responsible to use for old guard with hundreds of thousands of points while also letting more newer people in, could also implement a "premium" highlight redeem for 100k points for big guys so they can bypass their limit and such if they feel it

UPD: Could also institute some general guidelines for the meaning of the highlights overall, which would improve their quality and give timeout reasons (and eventually even bans for dentge people) for mods for misconduct

marble grove
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thinking a global cooldown is a good idea if not outright limiting how many each chatter can send a stream, even for bits. if thats implemented a queue / cooldown timer would be neat too but i can see the cd having another problem where as it hits 0 people rush to get their message in, but that's just my opinion.

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a limit pr chatter pr stream is a great idea tho

meager lodge
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Global cooldown always gets rushed by people, seen that with Kumi streams, not even a chance with bigger community like this one

marble grove
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it would pace things out more tho, give nuro more time to yap

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i dont think this is an easy solution to solve with this many people in chat

rotund sluice
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generally the issue isnt points redeems, it's oilers with bottomless pockets making infinite bits redeems just to say petpet neurosocute petpetevilsocute or some shit like that

meager lodge
sage carbon
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Don't forget the 100th question about Vedal or some other Vtuber.

meager lodge
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Just a thing pointed out in chat and I decided it should be brought up more, as one of the newer chatters here

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Mods and the big guy himself seem to have bits' highlights handled for now, this is for "betterment", not any issues with those like that

rotund sluice
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ngl i just read the first sentence LULE

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yeah decent solution, constant inflation of redeem price does kinda make it shitty to try to get a points redeem in, tho i think the redeem should be limited to 1 per chatter if the price would be reduced in this way

marble grove
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limiting both would be a good idea tbh

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would let newbies get their stuff in too

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more engagement

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pretend i can spell

sturdy wing
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im for limiting bits but its harsh deleting bits redeem completly. but reducing spam is nice

analog moat
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I've genuinely never used the highlighted message feature because I'm concerned that I'll somehow mess it up and lose channel points that I collected over a long time.

meager lodge
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That's why cheapening is on board

marble grove
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i just have nothing to add to the stream

rotund sluice
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i just use mine for gambling, since it doesnt really seem worth it to blow 65k on one message that is a coinflip on if they will donowall or not lmao

analog moat
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Even just a simple guide for "Here's how you can say something to Neuro!" with instructions (and maybe even some guidelines on what to talk about vedalPray ) could be helpful

rotund sluice
meager lodge
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I watched for 20 days and have a third of that

marble grove
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ive watched since the subathon and am sitting at like 130k

rotund sluice
meager lodge
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So I'd say 20k (with a limit for uses) price could be justified - it's "committed enough" but not "endless grind"

marble grove
analog moat
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Heck, even a disclaimer that the twins might not respond to your message

meager lodge
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Yeah, could also be good, I'll add that in

analog moat
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But right now it feels like a bit of a free-for-all and we're going to have a tragedy of the commons with the twin's attention during streams

rotund sluice
marble grove
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anything that lets the twins yap for a little longer im all for

marble grove
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ive never redeemed so idk neurOMEGALUL

rotund sluice
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we love wasting 7 bucks or a fuckload of points on trial and error LULE

meager lodge
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UPD: Could also institute some general guidelines for the meaning of the highlights overall, which would improve their quality and give timeout reasons (and eventually even bans for dentge people) for mods for misconduct

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That's what I added

marble grove
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how hard would it be to filter out some stuff?

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like "rate my username"

meager lodge
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Mostly just bot, but it still would be needed to be revieved by mods

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Because some people really like to try and bypass things

calm ingot
marble grove
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i'll take ur word for it, im not much of a twitch user

analog moat
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I know for B2 stuff there's evidently some limitations with moderating translated messages, but I've seen some quite frankly uncomfortably weird highlighted messages come from there. neuroErm

rotund sluice
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i know, B2 swarm is great, right? peepowow