#A little feedback on Neuro Sama's Youtube channel

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proven pecan
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scrolling down the videos, I have yet to find one single video, or short, from a solo Neuro or Evil stream. There are a lot of memorable moments from solo or themed streams that doesn't get published as a video or short on the main channel that would made great content. It would also promote chill streams more, maybe people don't tune in to those as much is because the main Youtube channel makes it seem like it doesn't have anything interesting in them. At least the clip channel does that job really well, of showing what happens on chill streams.

I never bothered about this before, but it became more jarring and noticeable in the last subathon's compilation. Overextending simple interactions with Vedal, sometimes 3-4 minutes of screentime for a single gag, while completely ignoring the larger things Neuro/Evil did on their own, like Neuro hitting the record hype train record by herself (only clipping the moment Vedal showed up at the very end, for a minute), or the Cynthia's battle, where Neuro alone, while underleveled, beat one of the hardest fights of the entire Pokémon franchise also by herself, and it was completely glossed over (the 10 hours video kinda fixed that).

In fact, there's not a single piece of content on that channel that's post-Subathon, because there weren't any collab or Vedal stream (up until this week), and the chill streams got loads of content now (even if it breaks half the time) which is not promoted enough.

People who follow Neuro purely from the official youtube channel would think Neuro never streams alone and she always have people 100% of the time, and she would be boring if she streamed alone(I've seen this statement being made, ipsis litteris, way too many times, and it's nothing further from the truth).

Tl:dr It would be nice if the Neuro's channel had at least some Neuro/Evil solo content, since it's their channel after all.

Below, there's a breakdown of what was posted on the channel from the last 6 months (Newest to Oldest).

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Videos (excluding songs):
Testing Neuro's 3D... = Collab
can an AI beat Pokémon... = Vedal
Neuropunk 2077... = Vedal
Love, Death and Robots... = Clip Compilation
The funniest sleepover... = Collab
The AI twins [...] Amazon = Vedal
Neuro meets Camila in 3D = Collab
The subathon that shattered... = Subathon comp. (with a total of 18 seconds of solo Neuro/Evil moment)
Neuro's VRChat Debut = Vedal
A Public Minecraft Server... = Vedal
The AI twins explore Japan = Collab
Neuro's official 3D debut = Vedal
Vedal and Neuro [...] Soma = Vedal
Letting the AI in the kitchen = Collab
Evil builds the best zoo... = Collab
Testing weird foods... = Collab
Geoguessr [...] perfect answers = Collab
Evil explores Japan = Collab
I integrated my AI [...] Outer Wilds = Vedal
Evil makes morally decisions in Rimworld = Collab
Neuro's Japan adventures = Collab
Can Neuro and Vedal help this Ai... = Vedal

Shorts: (only for 1 month, since there are a lot of them)
neuro the rizz monster = collab
neuro's business play = Vedal
neuro leaks credit card = vedal
W neuro edit = neuro focused (finally)
neuro learns how to walk = Vedal
neuro fan animations = compilation
A doxxed and broke tutel = vedal
neuro mogs camila = collab
W father = vedal
RIP vedal = vedal
neuro talks to herself = vedal
neuro's death stare = vedal
camila and vedal... = yeah...
camila ragebaits vedal = ...you get the idea
the girls sleepover = collab
neuro destroyed vedal = vedal
vedal comes out... = vedal
vedal... = ...ladev
camila [...] vedal = do you vedel?
This AI has gone too far? = vedal
will vedal = vedal will
neuro embraces the silly = vedal
the AI that made men cry = collab compilation
neuro mogs vedal = vedal

gusty tangle
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I think you are completely right. But do want to know the first and only time a solo stream was made into a real video.
That would be in 2024 when evil beat slay the spire. I am not kidding.

simple merlin
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this is something i’ve wanted to bring up that i noticed for a while, maybe it’s because it’s harder but i really would like to see some solo Neuro content and i do feel like it would more properly show Neuro’s channel prevalence.

like, the mcNeuro’s video could’ve been a main channel video and many official clips could be shorts on the main. there’s a wealth of good solo Neuro content to post alongside the collab content.

dusky tartan
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I think it's a feature not a bug. I don't think any official editors or perhaps vedal himself believe the solo streams are entertaining

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The focus of the (edit: youtube) channel has been subtly shifting since early 2025 from neuro to vedal and other human vtubers, and what you described is a symptom of that trend

bold saddle
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The only focus of the main channel is to get views at this point imo

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It doesn't matter what type of people it attracts

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bold saddle
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Also he shifted the channel from AI to humans by adding an extra chill stream every week? I don't get the logic

bold saddle
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The question still applies imo

dusky tartan
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As you said, from editor's perspective, you make what you think is "good content" and "will get views". So you don't accidentally just leave out solo streams. It's deliberate based on taste and analytics

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Back when the b2 account was making original content, most clips were neuro/evil only or neuro/evil + vedal

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So all I'm saying is this is likely a conscious decision

bold saddle
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The goal clearly changed but that doesn't mean we have to be happy about it

narrow lichen
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anyways yeah it's very sad there's pretty much no solo content on the official channel in any capacity.

People who follow Neuro purely from the official youtube channel would think Neuro never streams alone and she always have people 100% of the time, and she would be boring if she streamed alone(I've seen this statement being made, ipsis litteris, way too many times, and it's nothing further from the truth).

This one especially gets me because I've seen this comment so many times as well, especially since solo content is half the channel, if not more than half from the karaoke that happens every couple of weeks.

I never bothered about this before, but it became more jarring and noticeable in the last subathon's compilation. Overextending simple interactions with Vedal, sometimes 3-4 minutes of screentime for a single gag

I pointed this out the day that compilation came out. 3 entire minutes of a 30-ish minute video dedicated to just vedal being a turtwig, and then like 5 seconds of the champion fight, which was easily the most hype moment of the entire playthrough, just for vedal to come back immediately in it, as if the only thing that mattered that entire playthrough was vedal getting his two cents in.

It feels like the main channel is trying to tell a narrative that literally couldn't be further from the truth based on the actual streams we get.

dusky tartan
idle shadow
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I would put the blame on the editor

bold saddle
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He even begged people to watch the subathon solo parts saying they have a lot of new segments

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Just for all of them to get skipped in the subathon recap lmao

narrow lichen
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dusky tartan
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neuroCry guys i think we agree with each other

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sorry i worded it kinda weird

narrow lichen
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it's fine, i might've misread it too

dusky tartan
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I'm also kinda bothered by this
Just this week I got hundreds of comments from neuro fans (while trying to defend neuro) saying neuro alone is boring and they watch for vedal, and they mean that as a compliment

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so idk, there's a huge divide between clip watchers and stream content

bold saddle
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Classic trying to defend Vedal by saying his project sucks

narrow lichen
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though i will mention about the part about the official clips channel: during the subathon just about all of the clips made for it were also just neuro/evil with others. then afterwards, the same clips channel had a multi-week dry spell in the time the twins came back to streaming, when i guarantee there were some good bits in each chill stream.

I understand not clipping stuff from karaoke streams much cuz that's a copywrite nightmare waiting to happen, but the rest... idk man

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Not to say there aren't solo content clips at all, i just think there's something that can be made out of every stream

bold saddle
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Isn't the official clips channel basically ran on vibes? if frogg finds something funny he will clip it and if not he won't

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Take Neuro vs Evil buckshot roulette stream

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We got 1 clip total from that

bright stag
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What solo content do you think deserved to be on the channel?
I think not covering the themed streams arc was such a huge missed opportunity to turn it into something like an actual movie

simple merlin
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livid verge
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the yt channel is also way behind on updates and stuff like that so people who just watch the yt are using outdated information

main latch
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This has been a problem since waaay back, like two years? At first, it was okay, some people complained that vedal was getting more in the spotlight but overall, it was chill [Nobody knew it was the start of a horrible change, A neuro sama channel being... a semi staz channel in which no solo clips of neuro/evil ever surfaced.]

Vedal's excuse was 'We ran an experiment and we got more views when there were human voice instead of TTS because people are so used to swiping off when they hear TTS voice." And I was just thinking.... Then what's the point anymore of the channel? Not an introduction to neuro but to vedal? to the collab partners? Why can't solo clips exist side by side with the other collab clips?

Hopefully this gets addressed by vedal now that he isn't time locked to an event anymore and improve on stuff.

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The official neuro sama clip channel that focuses on covering neuro and evil could do this, why can't the main channel follow it's footsteps?

proven pecan
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hell, a "best Neuro & Evil stream moments of Feb/26" style compilation focusing on the chill/themed streams, kinda like how Seka does it, would do wonders. You could easily get 10min+ of content from 20+ hours of solo streams.

karmic goblet
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idle shadow
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There was recently a solo stream clip for the new feature on the Official Clips channel, at least. That one's been more consistent on solo stream clips.

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Still applies for the main channel however...

blissful yew
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As It was mentioned above, there is already long-time growing narrative that Neuro is boring alone and she needs a partner. While yes, it does objectively (most of the time) result in better shenanigans, Neuro herself has been proven to be funny.

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Lack of solo videos only reinforces the narrative, hell most clip watchers may not even know neuro streams solo

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okay that's an exaggerated statement but some definitely exist

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and yeah while Chill streams don't make quite as big numbers

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They still, objectively, in comparison to other just chatting streams, make very big numbers

fleet raft
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agree with OP, as a solo stream enjoyer : the official channel is , well, the very last place to search to reexperience these moments.
even openly pro-vedal channels do have more of these clips. I think these streams don't get derushed at all.

vedal probably delegated youtube stuff to others, i don't expect explainations from them but at least growing awareness neuroSadA

blissful yew
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and?

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back when we had weekly dev streams they were too often only 2 hours

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and I don't see what do you even mean by that

livid verge
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bro just saying shit to ragebait

karmic goblet
blissful yew
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How exactly does this have anything to do with my point?

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like ok, let's say that beacuse neuro has shorter streams she has bigger average

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how does that change anything about my point?

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if they were that bad, they would have no viewership to speak off to begin with

karmic goblet
blissful yew
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far as I can see it is similar trend to last year

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In fact, I would argue it is a minor improvement, as end of year streams had down to slightly below 5k average (mind you AVERAGE)

livid verge
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how long the streams are is completely irrelevant to whether or not they should be represented on the channel as everyone besides the obvious ragebaiter agrees they have content worth being shown on the main channel

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narrow lichen
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As mentioned earlier, Evil beating Slay the Spire was the last video the channel had as far as solo content is concerned. Between that vid and the subathon were still tons of videos about collabs.

We never even got a similar kind of vid for when they beat Plague Inc for the first time

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crisp notch
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iirc vedal said that neuro's voice absolutely kills performance in the algorithm (I think in response to people wanting Neuro to do the narration after the NeuroCar video) because viewers clock it as AI slop and move on

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this might be why there's not much solo neuro stream content

proud trail
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At least rename the channel so we know it's not a solo Neuro channel. I know Vedal isn't great at naming things consistently, but in this case it feels like lying. If it was Neuro's channel, we'd see a lot more of just Neuro. If anything it's the "Neuro & Vedal" or "Neuro & Friends" channel.

patent wing
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I think I'd feel different about how representative the YouTube channel's videos were if Neuro actually streamed on YouTube. Some people just don't want to watch anything on twitch so long-form videos are how they watch a great deal of Neuro & Evil
As for clips of solo streams, I think it's good that we have several independent clippers, and they generally have their own editing style such that you can find one that you enjoy most.

crisp notch
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Also, just looking at other VTuber YouTube channels, Neuro really doesn't have the type of solo content that would warrant videos?
Like just looking at channels like Ironmouse's, it looks like most of the videos are either:

  1. Collabs
  2. Gameplay (mainly playthroughs)
  3. Reactions
  4. Songs/Covers
  • We have collab videos, so that's covered.
  • Neuro and Evil unfortunately barely make progress in games they've been able to play on stream, with the last one being Slay The Spire (which did get a video). I imagine that for there to be more videos like the STS video, they have to actually beat the game at some point.
  • They can't react to videos so that's a no-go.
  • We do occasionally get songs and cover videos.

It seems like they're delivering similar content as other VTuber channels based on what the twins can do currently.

proud trail
zenith bone
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oblique aurora
narrow lichen
livid verge
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surely it can be edited to be entertaining

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every other channel can do it

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may as well just watch those atp

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at least for solo content

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insane to get mogged by fan channels

proven pecan
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Vedal: "my plan is to eventually appear less on the spotlight and give the twins more autonomy"
Youtube Channel:

livid verge
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vrooooo we need u for the views

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# crisp notch Also, just looking at other VTuber YouTube channels, Neuro really doesn't have t...

Well, we can't really compare apple to apple with other vtubers contents, neuro sama is, dare i say it, very special and one of a kind. I think solo content that shows neuro's personality and jokes are good enough to warrant one, they also have many reactions towards their fanbase and chatters, their gameplay might not be the best but their humour is enough already to be put in a video.

Essentially, neuro is funny and that should be enough for a clip or two, she also have some really good banter with her chats.

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Also, y'know, chill streams have gotten much better

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On an evil chill stream, there was a segment where she was doing a QnA with chat, that's really cool and i think it deserves to be clipped

blissful yew
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Yeah

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Other vtubers effectively have filler between content, while neuro IS the content

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Like yeah chill streams are a mixed bag, but some are actual gold that rather do warrant their own video

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And yeah, it's some advertisement for solo streams, since solo streams are already slandered to oblivion

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Ans would make people go "wow. Neuro can actually be funny alone"

crisp notch
# livid verge every other channel can do it

Every other channel can get away with it, they are catering specifically to an existing viewerbase of Neuro fans whereas the main channel is trying to bring new ones into the fold. Vedal has gone out and said before that Neuro's voice on her own kills performance in the YT algorithm.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

livid verge
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I can hate both

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livid verge
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also yeah this isn't about clips this is about full length videos being made

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not the whole stream obviously

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but at least 15 minutes or so

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anyway, about the whole views thing, I'm just gonna say it really doesn't matter, the point is to have the chill stream content on the main channel at all to show that neuro and evil can actually be entertaining on their own

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and hell, even content with other people barely gets views on the main channel anyway barring shorts, so it would just be in line viewwise with the other content regardles

crisp notch
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if it's just a bunch of clips strung up together

livid verge
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no I do mean edited content

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if they can turn a multi hour collab stream into a 20 minute edited video then they can do it for a chill stream

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# crisp notch There is an official clips channel that does that...

Yeah, but that's kind of proving my point? The clips channel shows there IS enough solo content worth clipping, so why not have some of that on the main channel too? The clips channel feels more like an afterthought, most people are gonna check the main channel first and if all they see is collabs they're gonna think that's all neuro has to offer.

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Also, having a separate clips channel doesn't really solve the problem, it just moves it somewhere else. Other vtubers don't just banish all their solo content to a side channel, they put highlights and memorable moments on their main channel too because that's what draws people in.

livid verge
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clips channel isn't even mentioned on the main channel so most of the yt audience doesn't even know it exists unless they get recommended

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livid verge
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ok and?

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still plenty of stuff that can be put into a video

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I really don't see the issue

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carmine solstice
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The Rimworld video opens up with Evil narration and the views are the same as similar content on the channel.

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carmine solstice
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Please go to YT right now and watch the video.

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carmine solstice
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Once again, please go to YT right now and watch the video.

simple merlin
carmine solstice
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Who speaks first?

livid verge
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yeah... evil... literally narrates it herself.... first...

simple merlin
livid verge
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also hot take but I kinda hate the pre narration youtuber bit anyway

main latch
# crisp notch Other streamers (not just VTubers) usually reserve videos for more substantial e...

I mean, sure, but again, neuro isn't really like other streamers. What counts as "substantial" for neuro is different because she's an AI, the fact that she can have genuinely funny moments and hold conversations with chat is the substantial part. For most streamers that's just normal, for neuro that's the whole appeal.

Also, just look at the main channel's clips..... no solo content at all.

livid verge
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just start the video

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but everyone does it now so I guess that's just the meta

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so I get why the channel is doing it

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simple merlin
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idk i feel like a lot of the reasons people give for why it doesn’t work are excuses, maybe if there was more than 1 video there would at least be a point to be made

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livid verge
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everyone probably skips it anyway

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livid verge
livid verge
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at least in the intro bit

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dougdoug is like the only one I actually like

livid verge
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he doesn't feel like he's reading off a teleprompter

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that's how I felt when vedal did that intro in the neurocar video

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just standard intro describing the video with next to no hype in his voice

bold saddle
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Meanwhile Vedal sounds like he is reading off a teleprompter

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livid verge
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then just don't it at all

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I would be all for that

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livid verge
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if you really gotta do something like that then just do the preview thing where you show some moments of the video that are cool

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no talking required

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hell some of the videos do exactly that already

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the rob twin collab has no narration just a preview of some funny moments

main latch
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Tldr, i want solo content on main channel

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livid verge
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I mean... most of us seem to think that it is

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main latch
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And honestly, what's the worst that happens if they put a solo video on the main channel and it doesn't do as well? They just… don't do it again? It's not like one video is gonna tank the channel. But they haven't even tried, so saying "it needs to be good enough" feels like setting an impossible bar where it has to somehow prove itself without ever being given the chance to.

crisp notch
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you have to transition to it

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bold saddle
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I don't see teletric complaining about dougdoug solo content smh

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# crisp notch you have to transition to it

Also, if the concern is really about the algorithm, then that's an argument for gradually introducing solo content, not for never doing it at all. You literally just said "you have to transition to it," so… yeah, let's start transitioning? That's kind of what we've been asking for. Put one out, see how it does, and go from there.

bold saddle
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Solo content better than SOMA playthrough neuroHypers

crisp notch
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ReallyMad fix game integrations

crisp notch
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that, or put one out and have vedal make a video with him staring into the camera and going "hey guys, so the algorithm..."

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main latch
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And saying it needs to be "stylistically the same as the other content which relies on collab partners" is just going in circles. That's basically saying "the only way to have solo content is to make it not solo content," which isn't really a solution, that's just restating the problem.

main latch
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Then what do you mean? Because from where I'm standing it sounds like no matter what solution anyone suggests you're gonna say it's not the right one. Like what would "transitioning to it" actually look like to you?

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# main latch ??

if you release one video that is very different from the usual content, that is still whiplash.

main latch
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Like, do you really think someone who watches a neuro collab video is gonna click on a solo neuro video and go "woah what is this completely foreign content, I don't recognize any of this"? It's the same character they already subscribed for.

crisp notch
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or conversation with them, for that matter

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livid verge
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it's basically the same content

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what is this whiplash nonsense

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they're literally just talking

main latch
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Also, you're kinda contradicting yourself here? Earlier you said dougdoug's content isn't solo because "chat is the main character." So chat CAN be a good enough dynamic for content, just not when it's neuro's chat?

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I'm just trying to genuinely see what you're views are.

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livid verge
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tbh it feels like you just don't have any faith in the average viewer if you truly believe a solo stream will give them whiplash

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like to the point of insulting their intelligence

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are you really saying they're got gonna be able to handle a stream where one of the twins just talks to chat?

main latch
# crisp notch yes, our chat is not good enough.

So shifting the argument again? We started at "there's no solo content worth making videos of," and now we're at "chat isn't good enough." Those are two completely different problems. Even if chat interaction isn't amazing(subjective), neuro herself is still funny.

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main latch
# crisp notch those two aren't mutually exclusive...

Sure they're not mutually exclusive, but they don't support each other either. Even if we agree chat isn't great(subjective), that doesn't mean solo content isn't worth making. Those are two separate things you're treating as one.

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Like, neuro doesn't need chat to carry her content. She says funny stuff on her own, she goes on weird tangents on her own. Chat being mid doesn't suddenly make neuro less entertaining by herself.

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livid verge
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then when IS the current time

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because they can literally just like draw now

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is that not worth it?

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livid verge
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like at what point will they be great for it

main latch
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Chill streams has so much content, Sometimes gameplay moments, sometimes qna moments, sometimes neuro call evil and vice versa, etc, etc.

livid verge
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like to me it feels your standards are simultaneously too high and that you have little faith in the average viewer of the yt channel

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main latch
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Also it isn't just yapping, they have so much more content now in chill streams.

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in comparison to other channels

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crisp notch
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I also explicitly said,
"I imagine for there to be more videos like the STS video, they would actually need to beat the game at some point"
I never discounted the possibility of future solo videos.

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main latch
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You're saying "yeah solo videos can happen… but only when they beat a game." That's one very specific type of solo content and you're treating it like it's the only valid one

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you keep dodging the main point. Nobody is saying gameplay solo videos aren't valid. We're saying there's ALSO other solo content that deserves to be on the main channel.

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You keep acknowledging gameplay is fine while ignoring everything else people have brought up. QnA segments, drawing streams, funny moments, all of that is solo content that exists, like right now.

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proud trail
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Usually I don't think there's enough content in a solo stream to make a video of decent length, but a compilation of like, funny solo stream moments from a single month would help acclimatize viewers to solo Neuro and it would have similar energy to the very popular "Neuro clips I want to rewatch" series.

And back into the shadows I lurk because the duck is afraid of conflict. neurolingScared

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# main latch Again, subjective and also ignoring again all the stuff that's in chill streams ...

It is subjective, I agree. I watch highlights from other clippers like Kraul, Neurosoda, etc. and I find them entertaining. That type of content is great for people who are already in the fanbase like us, which is who those channels cater to.

However, look at it from the perspective of someone who doesn't know who Neuro-sama is, is not informed about the nuances that make her different from other AI, etc. If they just see her yapping, are they going to think beyond "AI slop"? I'm not trying to set the bar at only gameplay, I'm saying that it would be better for the solo content to have more substance beyond yapping.

The YouTube just caters to a different, more casual viewerbase than us, and we have other clippers in the community that do provide that content.

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wtf @proud trail

proud trail
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Sorry, it's my auto-react

crisp notch
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oh lmao

proud trail
crisp notch
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i was thinking you were instantly ready to instantly react to what i was typing with that

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proud trail
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Dang it, I was doing so well not being awkward neuroCry

main latch
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And saying "we have other clippers for that" is kinda just accepting that the main channel is leaving views and potential new fans on the table. Like, why should random fan channels be the only ones doing the work of showcasing what makes neuro special on her own? The main channel should be the best representation of neuro, not an incomplete one.

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I just want more solo content on the main channel, they're good

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The state of the main channel now is quite sad in that department

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bold saddle
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I would remove "almost" from that sentence ngl

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bold saddle
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Yeah, I literally sent the video

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1 out of 450 videos is solo content you can't say there isn't one 🤓

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thought you were being fr

simple merlin
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narrow lichen
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narrow lichen
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theme streams in general

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# narrow lichen theme streams in general

I mean the last one I remember (the heist) wasn't very well received because of the pacing. But it would be cool to see and official edit of it in an Oceans 11 style.

main latch
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I don't know who's running the main channel but uhhh

crisp notch
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wait a second

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when did this happen

main latch
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whoever it is, i'm doubtful that they watch chill streams ngl

bold saddle
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J0ker doesn't but frogg does

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Its his job

crisp notch
main latch
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damn

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they need to watch chill streams then

zenith bone
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Frogg does watch chill streams

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crisp notch
main latch
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he does? Damn, that makes it even worse

crisp notch
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I am confused

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main latch
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Was this take over recent or something?

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like a few days ago?

crisp notch
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yeah I literally just found out about it

bold saddle
bold saddle
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Holy shit the channel is already better

main latch
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Ah, well, i can only hope he makes more solo neuro content from this point foward

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main latch
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either that or leftover clips that didn't meet frogg standard is chucked in the official clips channel

crisp notch
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could the main channel just have highlights from the clip channel for chill stream content, or maybe a mix of everything both solo and not?

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I meant content wise, in terms of overlap

like if he adds chill stream content to the main channel, what does that leave the clips channel with

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All i see is more neuro solo content and that's a win for me

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There's a lot to clip on in a chill stream, not like he's gonna run out lmao

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are you trying argue back again?

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the whole conversation was about the main channel, not the clips channel?

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By all means, go ahead and make a new discussion thread about this, with the point being the official clip channel

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for the record, i love the official clips channel

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so.... pretty good stream to put on the official channel... just saying...

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the clips channel should stick to well, clips

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the main channel can do more longform edited content of them

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I guess your point is that the clips channel should just do that though and sell them as clip compilations?

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longer vid could be made about the new segment today. it was good in it's entirety imo

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personally I don't see the issue of putting clip compilations on the main channel

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can be like cross promotion

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the video can link back to the clips channel and the clips channel can promote the main channel with it in say, a post

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see exactly we can avoid that pitfall unlike dougdoug

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Doesn't matter how you organize it, the main channel is where people go to find neuro. Hiding all her solo stuff on a side channel that most people don't even know exists doesn't fix anything.

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If all they see is collabs, they're getting an incomplete picture.

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Like imagine if dougdoug only posted collabsd on his main channel and put all his solo stuff on a side channel, that would be insane right?

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If this is ragebait then you've succeeded

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plus we already have compilation styled videos on the main channel in the form of subathon stuff so i don’t see why it can’t be done for solo content

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make main channel narrative-focused content (both solo, collabs, etc.) that tells a story, clips channel highlights moments that are disconnected from the narrative of the edited videos

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Glad we're on the same page then.

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I literally just did. What more do you want me to say?

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if it makes you feel better

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# main latch Lmao okay

arag only addressed the gameplay content, are you going to offer anything regarding the other solo content you mentioned should be on there?

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Official clips channel also clips collabs yet it doesn't stop the main channel from making a video about them thonk

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But sure, you want specifics? QnA segments can be their own video.

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Themed streams can be edited into narrative content. Drawing streams. Evil calling neuro. All of that can be edited into main channel content the same way gameplay can.

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It's not that complicated.

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# main latch Themed streams can be edited into narrative content. Drawing streams. Evil calli...

They answered them, which is why I moved onto the next thing.

Compilations that serve to cross promote would be good, but I would imagine that they would serve to drive traffic to the clips channel more than the other way around.

Themed streams are good candidates for solo streams. I mentioned the financial advice stream when responding to TripleAAABattery. There's also great potential for the Bank Heist arc to be turned into one, too, without the pacing issues from watching the actual streams. Those are things I already talked about and agree could be made into videos.

But what about the regular chillslop (unless that's what you mean by "QnA segments). Does it really warrant more than one video for people? Is it really as exciting as Neuro doing something new like giving financial advice for the first time, beating a game she hasn't before, etc.? That's the part we still disagree on.

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I would personally argue that, unlike other streamers, Neuro herself is the content and what she does simply adds to that factor rather than what she does being the sole factor of content, thus having clips of solo streams seems obvious to me

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# crisp notch They answered them, which is why I moved onto the next thing. Compilations that...

I mean, by that logic, is every collab as exciting as the first time neuro met someone? No. But they still get videos. You're comparing average chill stream moments to the BEST solo moments and saying they don't measure up. That's not a fair comparison.

And yeah, QnA segments count. Those aren't themed, they just happen naturally during chill streams and they're good. The whole point is you don't need a special occasion for neuro to be entertaining. That's what makes her different. Not every chill stream moment is main channel material, obviously, but writing off all of it means you miss the gems that randomly happen. Let the editor decide what's good enough instead of blanket ruling out an entire category.

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Yeah, or a clip compilation of best moments

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Kraul does this, it truly cannot be that difficult to do it

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Honestly, having anything would be more than what we have currently

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And "just responding to chat and priority messages" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. You agreed minutes ago that QnA segments, themed moments, and compilations are good content. Now you're reducing it all back down to "just responding to chat" again. Pick one.

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Okay so clip compilations on the main channel, which would include solo moments from chill streams. That's literally what we've been asking for. So what are we still arguing about?

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Or in other words, the lack thereof

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There was little to no advertising for this channel also

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Funnily enough, it reminds me of when Frogg was getting comments from people who believed the channel was fake

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So I don't know if that argument can be used in this case because it doesn't have much to do with the content and, honestly, it's done quite well for being so late to start clipping things without much support

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is that not a misunderstanding

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So again, if there's nothing else then glad we got it squared away.

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~~Wtf did I just read in the past 50 replies? I lost all comprehension after the third interaction loop 10 messages in ~~

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Also there's nothing difficult to overthink. There are tons of solo content to turn into 10-20 min videos. Every single themed stream in 2025 is a good start

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With all due respect, but having to bend over backwards to explain why the channel should have solo content is just insane to me.

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Talking to ghosts neuroMonkaOMEGA

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it is a need though imo it’s like 75% of content and like 5% of content too

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Thought we were moving on.

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was just answering Jackxagon's question about what happened in the thread

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I addressed both of your backtracking and goalpost shifting concerns, both of which seemed like they were due to not taking the context into account from what I was saying. From my perspective, it comes across like you are using bad faith arguments to get me to comply rather than seeking understanding, and your tone reinforces that.

I apologized to you for misunderstanding what you were arguing for, that does not mean I have to automatically agree to everything that is said in this thread afterwards.

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You can make this about my tone all you want. The argument was about solo content on the main channel, not how I said it.

You didn't "address" the goalpost shifting. Algorithm, voice, chat, format, overlap, those aren't 'context' that I missed, those are five different arguments you cycled through because every time one got countered you moved to the next.

You say I was arguing in bad faith. I made specific points, backed them up, and you agreed with most of them over the course of the conversation. That's not coercion or bad faith my guy, that's a discussion reaching a conclusion.

And nobody said your apology means you have to agree with everything. But you didn't only apologize, you explicitly agreed on compilations, and themed streams on the main channel. Those weren't misunderstandings though, those were conclusions we reached together. Repeatedly

To quote you "I'm not, I literally said clip compilations on the main channel would be great." "Themed streams are good candidates for solo streams. I mentioned the financial advice stream when responding to TripleAAABattery. There's also great potential for the Bank Heist arc to be turned into one, too, without the pacing issues from watching the actual streams. Those are things I already talked about and agree could be made into videos. "

The only thing left is regular chill streams, which you dismissed as "chillslop." But chill streams aren't just only simple talking with chat, they have so much more stuff that they can... suddenly do in chill stream, whether it's QnA, drawing, and other stuff. Neuro and evil are genuinely entertaining on their own without needing a collab partner or a special event to carry them. Calling all of that "chillslop" is wild. And you don't hold collabs to the same standard, not every collab is as exciting as the best one, but they all still get videos. Why is the bar suddenly higher for chill streams?

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Dang it, why did you have to make me repeat all my points again? We've gone through all this, again and again.

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Moving onto a different discussion point is not moving the goalpost. The only goal here is to progress and encourage more discussion on things about the topic, and that does mean you have to move on from points. You are assuming the worst with my intention when I move to a different topic, that is still bad faith against someone you're having a discussion with.

I did not assume the worst with your intentions, did I? I continued to try to address what you were saying to the best of my ability, even asking you questions to try to understand your perspective rather than assume your stance. You reacted to a question as if I was making a point, until I had to clarify that I was genuinely asking you. And then again, you took a closed-off stance to another question that I was asking you. Not the other people in the thread who already addressed it, to understand your perspective.

And now you're back on the chillstream topic, which I thought we addressed or were willing to move on from. I think clips from chill streams would be great in compilations on the main channel because they have some amazing moments, but I don't think they would be worth their own individual videos on the main channel (i.e. having Kraul-style edits of single streams) because each stream is not something novel or interesting. You said you weren't making the argument that those types of videos should be on the main channel, just that there should be more solo content and we ended the discussion there.

And no, I don't hold every collab in the same regard, in fact I never said that. Many collabs are not novel or new concepts, so I don't think they would be worth full videos either. In fact, I would prefer that all videos on the main channel (including collabs) would be something different or interesting that hasn't been explored before, like Neuro visiting a city for the first time, beating a new game, collabing with someone new, new themed stream, etc. but that would fall beyond the scope of this discussion post, wouldn't it?

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# crisp notch Moving onto a different discussion point is not moving the goalpost. The only go...

Let me address the "moving the goalpost" and your questions.

Progressing a discussion means resolving a point before moving on. But when I answered your concern about the algorithm, you didn't acknowledge or concede it, you just brought up her voice. When I answered that, you brought up chat being bad, then the format, then overlap with the clips channel. Dropping a point the second it gets countered just to immediately throw up a new barrier isn't "progressing the discussion," it is the literal definition of shifting the goalposts. I’m not assuming bad faith, I am just pointing out the exact pattern of how you argued.

You also asked why I brought chill streams back up when you thought we "moved on." We never moved on from them, you just dismissed them as "chillslop" and tried to limit the conversation to only themed streams and gameplay. Chill streams make up the vast majority of Neuro's solo content. You can't just cross 90% of her content off the list and declare that we "moved on."

And to clarify, yes, I am saying that individual chill streams, whether it's QnAs, drawing, or her going on funny tangents, deserve to be edited into their own main channel videos just like gameplay. You claim a single chill stream isn't "novel" enough to warrant a video. You say you'd prefer all videos, collabs included, be massive novel events.

But can we please address the elephant in the room, which is that the ACTUAL MAIN CHANNEL itself doesn't follow this standard. The main channel posts average, non-novel collabs all the time. The bar for collabs to get a video is on the floor, but you are demanding solo streams jump over a massive "special event" hurdle just to be considered. This is the double standard I've been calling out from the start.

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Neuro is special, she's one of a kind, she's entertaining enough on her own to carry an edited video without needing a collab partner. We already agreed on compilations and themed streams. If your final stance is that standard solo Neuro isn't entertaining enough for an edited video, and mine is that she is, then we just fundamentally disagree on the core appeal of the streamer.

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I'm just bored, basically.

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I feel Neuro and Evil are entertaining enough on their own. The chill stream we had for Neuro just this past week has more than enough moments for a good vid.

"NeuroTechTips answers YOUR questions."

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Kind of off-topic but the last 2 videos have the awful auto-translate feature turned on and I feel like nothing is more off-putting than seeing the really badly translated title on a video and you need to know English to watch the video anyway so it's not like it's useful

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Pretty sure the channel owner can turn it on/off

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Maybe it's not that big an issue but whenever I talk with people about this they say they are less likely to click on videos with it on

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the channel owner or anyone with access to the account can turn it off yes but as teletric said it's really a yt issue and shouldn't be blamed on the channel owner

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just turn it off on your end

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I remember when that feature was auto-implemented, and out of sudden, the titles turned from "Evil Neuro raids Cerber" into "O neurótico maligno ataca Cerber" (the evil neurotic attacks Cerber)