Bring back weekly dev streams.

[hexed silo]

Weekly dev streams would:

Give more content: Planning for content takes time away that could be spent on upgrades for Neuro.
A weekly dev stream makes content which would require less planning for content with collab partners or for themed streams.

Boost the community's morale: The lack of dev streams has made Vedal talk to the community less which has made people more negative about him, we got many negative memes about Vedal: V3 voice, 9 month break, the concert costing too much, and lack of dev streams.
Weekly dev streams would help heal the damage of the lack of dev streams, the break, and V3 Voice.

Give more entertaining upgrades to Neuro: This year has more focus on projects that don't improve neuro but make the Neuro brand flashier.
The lava lamp, Original songs with music videos, the concert, and 3D(Somewhat)
The lack of dev streams made Vedal focus less on upgrades that can make Neuro more entertaining.

Let's compare 2024's upgrades to 2025 upgrades.

2024 Entertaining upgrades:

Neuro can make polls, change the title, customize time out messages, call and DM people on discord, can search the web with a search engine, play sound effects, Intelligence upgrades, and has improved hearing.

2025 Upgrades

Entertaining upgrades:

Can be in 3D, short term memory is better, and improved search so that neuro can click on the webpages of the search.

Debatably entertaining: Twin calling and intelligence upgrades.

These show that Vedal spent too much time on superficial projects instead of improving Neuro.
With weekly dev streams Vedal has to show what he's working on and justify why he worked on projects.
Vedal has been drifting away from the goal of make Neuro more entertaining so weekly dev streams will make him have to work on entertaining upgrades for Neuro.

If you aren't a big fan of 3D 2025 feels somewhat disappointing compared to 2024. If weekly dev streams are brought back 2026 could be a great year for Neuro.

Thanks for reading this.

Also I have a few suggestions for the upgrades you could add to Neuro.

1. Let Neuro open and close the games she's playing. This could make chill streams more flexible plus ragequitting could be funny.

2. Let Neuro show pages she's browsing. The search function would be cooler if in chill streams Neuro could show the search results and the page she's on. Like a wikipedia page showing cats that can be cool.

An unrelated upgrade to streams could be showing the amount of TTS messages sent on stream. This could be helpful for themed streams so that people see 30 TTS messages think twice about sending a highlighted message/donating bits for a message.

Also Vedal you did receive 1.5 Million dollars of Subs so the 300k hidden sub goal can be weekly dev streams.

[long night]

Let Neuro show pages she's browsing.
It would be cool but dangerous for the channel, unless some heavy filtering is put there

[velvet karma]

I don't see how having weekly dev streams instead of bi-weekly does anything

Especially when like half of last year's dev streams were spent talking about merch

[torn bramble]

This year will probably be the same as well

[crystal dew]

and when vedal has actually said that dev streams are actually a distraction from his dev work

[upbeat pecan]

"Boost the community's morale: The lack of dev streams has made Vedal talk to the community less which has made people more negative about him, we got many negative memes about Vedal: V3 voice, 9 month break, the concert costing too much, and lack of dev streams.
Weekly dev streams would help heal the damage of the lack of dev streams, the break, and V3 Voice."

I don't see the thought process

"Give more entertaining upgrades to Neuro: This year has more focus on projects that don't improve neuro but make the Neuro brand flashier.
The lava lamp, Original songs with music videos, the concert, and 3D(Somewhat)
The lack of dev streams made Vedal focus less on upgrades that can make Neuro more entertaining."

I also don't see the correlation here

"Give more content: Planning for content takes time away that could be spent on upgrades for Neuro.
A weekly dev stream makes content which would require less planning for content with collab partners or for themed streams."

And personally, I would consider this a negative if we're replacing what could've been more unique content with just dev streams

[velvet karma]

Anything in existence can be a distraction to him tbf

[dark furnace]

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[trail shore]

To add, when Vedal has commented on the progress of stuff it's usually a dismissive "yeah it's being worked on" which would lead to lower morale within the community if he said that every week

[upbeat pecan]

Yep, that's pretty much what I'd expect

He doesn't elaborate much on anything he's working on even on dev streams most of the time, simply that it's being worked on

[trail shore]

Vedal is very reserved and seems to enjoy surprising the audience with unexpected progress if you asked me

[cerulean canopy]

honestly kinda funny cus when I'm coding I'm the exact same way vedal is but now I know what it's like for the ppl waiting

[trail shore]

So if weekly dev streams returned, he wouldn't use them to update the community on work behind the scenes as much as you would think

[rapid venture]

I used to love how vedal would still sometimes talk about interesting stuff he has been working on / planned or sometimes even just asked for some opinions from the chat

[velvet karma]

Only thing weekly dev streams are good for nowadays is asking the community for the schedule and he doesn't listen to like 99% of the good ideas anyway

[weak haven]

Surely making him scramble to find something to stall about for 2 hours every week would make him so much more productive

[trail shore]

Additionally, you seem to relate frequency of dev streams with number of updates in your 2024/5 comparison which would seem inversely correlated to me

[trail shore]

That's also a factor, some dev streams in 2024 had Vedal just wanting to go back to working and groaning all throughout the stream, which could happen more frequently if the dev stream frequency went up

[lofty junco]

no

[cerulean canopy]

groaning throughout the stream
But as an NN chatter I want Vedal to suffer

[trail shore]

As a NN chatter I want his suffering to be funny, not boring

[grizzled summit]

no, as the others have already said, more dev streams does not help most of the points you mentioned.

[dark furnace]

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[foggy escarp]

-# sabotage them if anything

[lime sierra]

In what universe does letting Neuro move in 3D not improve Neuro??

Also how does more dev streams increase the number of upgrades to Neuro? How does that even make sense?

[foggy escarp]

I believe what bro is trying to say is that average stream quality is hurt when vedal focuses on bigger projects
and that dev streams would incentivise vedal to work on smaller upgrades in the meantime (Though it would have the opposite effect, because instead of spending the day working on neuro, he will probably just procrastinate until the stream, which will be just vague minor updates with 2 hours of stalling)

[foggy escarp]

as for my own points the community morale part is just...not really the case
Memes would still exist

• Im sure V3 memes would disappear if vedal was being asked same question every week and had same answer
• Break is just the subathon burnout, those happen and are pattern at this point.
• I wouldn't say concert cost was that big of concern, but DATE was. As late as October vedal would say that concert is happening in 2025. Being stubborn despite like 50 threads and posts on multiple platforms telling him it's a stupid idea. Only AFTER all that stating that the concert will be next year. Which I can't even tell if he actually read the feedback, he grew a braincell, or concert team told him it's physically impossible. We still don't have an announcement about it, so it should tell you how realistic vedals stubbornness was.
• As for lack of dev streams, well there will be one when there's dev to show.

In conclusion, no.

NONE

of these would be solved by more dev streams, if anything they would make it even worse.

[hexed silo]

The first 6 months of 2025 show otherwise, He had no dev streams during that time and there were no upgrades.

Collab planning is way more complicated than you guys think. you would have to talk to someone, check when they're available, apparently coach them on what to say to Neuro. Although this is just a guess because Vedal hasn't fully explained that process. If you have weekly dev streams you wouldn't need to plan as many collabs since a dev stream is like a collab. Also a dev stream could explain the collab process which would allow for better feedback from the community.

Also have you all forgotten about the first 6 months of 2025. Vedal had no dev streams and spent a lot of that time on working on V3 which hasn't progressed that much. Vedal is not that good at deciding what to work on and needs ideas from other people. Vedal has no discipline and requires pressure to think of upgrade ideas. The guy leaves his clothes on the floor and can't cook he clearly doesn't have a lot of discipline.
Also there was constant complaining about the lack of dev streams in the discord during the 6 months of no dev streams. It's clear that dev streams force vedal to interact with the community at least and put pressure on him to work on things.

If vedal interacts with the community less then the community likes him less. Weekly dev streams would make vedal interact with the community more so the community would like him more.

The first 6 months of 2025 show that vedal without dev streams has given less content and no new upgrades because he spent too much time on V3 and wasn't pressured to give upgrades to Neuro with more dev streams Vedal has to either come up with ideas or take some ideas from the community.

[crystal dew]

The issue with all of this that you think dev streams replace collabs, which isnt true, even when weekly it would it be on mondays and the weeks would keep the 4 to 5 stream week rarely without a collab on the schedule

So no your point of it lowering the need for collabs matters naught to this

[craggy magnet]

• I'm pretty sure Vedal doesn't "coach" people on how to talk to Neuro, he just agrees on a date and a theme and throws Neuro at them for the collab partners to interact with her however they wish to (you see this with how different people act towards Neuro, and Vedal doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to direct and police people on how to talk with her)
• Vedal is bad at communicating and he only wants to do whatever he finds interesting at the moment, at the expense of literally everything else on the channel going downhill or stagnating as a result. He doesn't need to do dev streams if he can communicate better with the community - all he needs to know about what the community wants is literally right here and he just needs to read and act accordingly to address those concerns. Dev streams should only happen when he has something noteworthy to show, otherwise it's gonna be 2+ hours of stalling
• it's not about a matter of "him interacting with the community", it's him actually listening to the community and addressing their concerns

[ripe aurora]

Vedal has no discipline and requires pressure to think of upgrade ideas. The guy leaves his clothes on the floor and can't cook he clearly doesn't have a lot of discipline.
holy parasocial LULE
solution for all the problems isnt more dev streams - 2024 when there were a lot of them, more often than not he was just stalling for 2 hours and not doing anything, in second half of 2025, when there was one dev stream every two weeks, most of them were focused only on merch

[craggy magnet]

Neuro being in 3D does not magically solve every problem plaguing chill stream, it's a novelty as of now (cause yes, Neuro in 3D opens up a lot of venues for future content, provided that it's polished and expanded upon) but for now it's a novelty rather than a definite solution to any of the issues currently happening for chill stream
And chill is the bulk of the channel's content, so him neglecting improvements and new additions to them in favor of chasing 3D upgrades hurt the general content on the channel a lot (chat literally devolved into petpet spam to entertain themselves because chill streams are stale as hell is the direct consequence of that)

[hexed silo]

From what I heard from magemini (Someone who was involved in The conspiracy theory collab ) vedal had suggested to them that they shouldn't say filler words like umm because it interrupts Neuro. Also they meet in a call and talk to Neuro beforehand so it would seem like there's more prep time to collabs especially for first time collab partners.

[craggy magnet]

Then it's not "coaching" it's advising
And the whole "talk to Neuro before collab" thing can be chalked up to last minute testing and checking if there's anything wrong with the other streamer's side or warming up to each other before going live

But what do I know, I'm not in his production team

[hexed silo]

It's not just about what Vedal does during the stream it's that he has to be present and see what questions the community asks and answer some of them. Being present and telling your community what you do every week would put pressure on Vedal to at least think of upgrades or ideas that could easily improve Neuro. That could help with improving chill streams since those upgrades would be easier

[craggy magnet]

He can literally read Discord, most of the questions he needs to answer is here

He just need to stop vagueposting about upgrades and being radio silence

There's no need to have weekly dev streams for that if he answers stuff in the discussion threads instead of reading and doing nothing about it

In my opinion dev streams should happen only when Vedal has something of note to show, like an upgrade or a new addition to talk about because then he gets something to do instead of complaining he has to stream

[hexed silo]

Discord is a small part of the audience while I appreciate discord being a way to give suggestions not everyone is in the discord it's why I think dev streams can give a way for other people who aren't in the discord for input.
Vedal should be less vague and more transparent I do agree with that. He hasn't exactly communicated with us. I don't 100% know what production did in the subathon.

I just think dev streams can serve multiple purposes, they can be communication with the community and content.
I also think they put more pressure on vedal to give chill stream upgrades since he's in front of around 10k people where as the discord has a few hundred active users.

[craggy magnet]

Said "other people's input" being emote spam

[hexed silo]

I mean I've seen in dev streams that he reads questions so there's some way he's able to read twitch chat

[craggy magnet]

Well yeah that's not taking into account that Vedal is awfully susceptible to getting oneguy'd

Reading through discord would be infinitely easier to gather feedback since

• chat won't get flooded by emote spam and the actually contributing criticisms won't be drowned out
• people can have discussions about said idea or feedback being put forward which helps Vedal to various degrees

Not everyone is in the Discord yes but you can't really get opinions from everyone in the fanbase, that'd be impossible

[lime sierra]

What makes you think 3D can’t be a part of chill streams? Neuro having 3D capabilities isn’t just a novelty, it’s a massive boost to the channel.

I believe the focus should be on memory and awareness upgrades for now though. That and visual latency for react content.

[hexed silo]

Discord is way easier to get feedback and generate discussions I agree with that. Twitch chat is too fast for in-depth discussions but they do come up with questions that could be answered. Twitch chat can generate the questions and the discord can discuss the answers. A question here doesn't make as much sense since vedal is less likely to read those questions than when in a dev stream.

[craggy magnet]

• 3D is a novelty for now
  I said it'll open up a lot of new venues for content but only if it's polished and expanded upon
  As of now none of the chill streams components are "good enough", we got no new segments, ragebait gameplay spam, half-broken art review (tbf it's due to Discord's shitty API but still) and that's kinda it, 3D is simply something shiny and new as of now because there simply isn't much to do in 3D yet, the novelty will wear off sooner or later and shit will go back to how it is rn - bad
• he said that he doesn't really want to have react content on the channel moving forward iirc, it kinda sucks as a whole cause while reactslop is bad, a lot of the cool community made projects won't ever get shown on stream cause lol lmao

[craggy magnet]

Well that's on him for not reading (or reading but doesn't respond or answer) questions being put forward here, and besides if he doesn't get anything to talk about he'd just groans and complains about how he has to stall for the next two hours before he's allowed to get off stream. Not like he'd go on an interesting tangent with a question anyways, he either vaguepost or answers it in one or two sentences

[pine parcel]

The tone of this suggestion is insane. Instead of saying "I want Vedal to stream more. Also I think there are some advantages of him doing more dev streams, but who am I to tell (optional)" you say "Vedal should stream more. Here are obvious reasons why weekly dev streams are good and lack of them is bad". You are trying to rationalize your own wish and make Vedal look stupid for doing otherwise.

Vedal is his own man and I don't think he should do anything, no matter how many reasons to do so you can come up with. Also, adding the point that it would be better if he were more pressured is not very helpful while asking anyone for anything.

[craggy magnet]

It's very rare to have him going on a tangent to explain stuff when questions are asked on stream (that is if he even catches the question due to the copious amounts of emote spam in chat)

[lime sierra]

Yeah the chill streams are really lacking.

When did Vedal say that? I really hope he reconsiders because being able to react to past streams and to her friend while being consistent would be huge. She doesn’t need to react for like a whole 2 hours like a lot of streamers do either.

[craggy magnet]

You can look for the thing on ladev, I'm pretty sure he said that somewhere in the past but I can't remember the exact time

Personally I'd like Neuro twins to react to community projects and other cool stuff people in the fanbase cook up cause it'd get even more eyes and attention on the projects which is always a good thing to have