#Karaoke Copyright Takedown Tracker

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junior juniper
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This post is to gauge the Swarm's interest about creating a tracker of Karaoke songs that have been plagued with copyright issues, and how frequently they are targeted, using the power of statistics, Swarm beacons, and scripting.

If you are somehow not aware about the state of Neuro karaoke songs right now, as of the time of publishing this:

  • Several Neuro karaoke archivers on YouTube have been taken down entirely.
  • Swarm FM has been taken off YouTube (partially due to supposed policy strikes, but they have also been affected by copyright problems on a regular basis)
  • You can download the karaoke songs from #1337588612845539349 (the official archive is being deprecated), but this only covers personal use cases. This also doesn't have the videos.
  • The operator of #1368988213624049774 is attempting to get the videos on a hard drive right now to host separately, since previously they were relying on a now-gone YT channel.
  • There is also a chance for some karaoke VoDs to disappear for the same reasons as the YouTube channel.

A while ago (start of this year I think), me and someone else started working on a public API to provide and track takedowns of karaoke songs. Largely due to the sheer quantity of songs with more coming out every 2 weeks, combined with the constant need to manually track everything, on top of having to write scripts to update it, not even mentioning that both of us had our own life issues and other projects, led us to abandon it, and it's been sitting privately ever since. But, due to the state of karaoke songs right now, I'm open to reviving it so long as I can get a few more people to help with the project.

Any helpers? Or even if you would be interested to see which songs are safe to use and which aren't, you can express interest too.

indigo inlet
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i'm actually interested how can you automatically track the takedown events

junior juniper
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That's the problem, we can't

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The absolute best we can do is send out a ping to a designated karaoke host page every 5 minutes and parse the returned HTML, if we don't mind getting ratelimited/blocked by youtube

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that's why I said "using the power of statistics, Swarm beacons, and scripting"

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afaict the only way to actually use something webhook-style is to hack together an email parser and ask all the karaoke channels to set up an auto-forward rule, even then that is way too complicated and admittedly intrusive as well

indigo inlet
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is youtube sending emails for each strike or takedown request? that could also be useless if we lost the channel altogether...

junior juniper
indigo inlet
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and takedown =/= a strike?

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(pardon me i havent uploaded public videos to youtube)

junior juniper
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We care more about the takedown part than strike

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either way

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but also if we lose an entire channel. code red that shit immediately

cursive mauve
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considering we always get new songs, how useful will this be in the long term

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not that its not a good idea

junior juniper
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for another, it would also log stats & trends and from there we can try and predict what's going on and proactively respond if at all possible

indigo inlet
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i think what could be useful is to track the copyright holders of the songs as well, but that might make it like "don't upload most of the things"

junior juniper
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We also were tracking copyright holders, in fact the original version was to just track copyright holders and not individual songs

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The reason why I realised it would be individual songs would be because in case some fuck ass person on yt decided to maliciously take things down

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and they targeted one popular song in hopes that it reaches as many videos as possible

ashen isle
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Oh yeah, I noticed a third of my YouTube playlist was mercilessly hiddenneuroD

mint spear
ashen isle
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There are 76 videos in my playlist. A quarter of them are not karaoke (they are all there) and 34 are hidden. sadly

woeful timber
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sajj

lavish sail
junior juniper
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oh it's flashfire

lavish sail
lavish sail
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wait is this thing still a thing