thick seal
I'm just looking at the KR fanbase, specifically on this video, https://youtu.be/ILiepBRrZDs?si=lsjAdwFC5G0ZJd86, even compared to our EN fanbase, they are quite big as well, granted, the clipper only posts every once in a while, but that's still a big amount of people tuning into a KR clipping channel for our AI overlords. Won't a channel for them be necessary?
young cargo
Vedal987_kr wen 
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tacit finch
collect my 8 vedal987 localizations
lean vigil
collect my 8 vedal987 localizations
Vedal: No! The subathon cannot go longer than 27 days!
The seven vedal987 localizations:
untold ember
plz yes theres many korean fans out here i belive
There’s a separate Korean streaming platform called Chzzk, and if he’d be open to it, it would be amazing if vedal could stream there as well. https://chzzk.naver.com/
young cargo
Perhaps could work. The problem is the same as with Bilibili. Timezones are extremely late for korean peninsula
untold ember
Perhaps could work. The problem is the same as with Bilibili. Timezones are extr...
True… but there are still quite a few Korean viewers who make the effort to watch, like me!!
lucid ermine
Theres' also those like me with completely messed up time-schedules that the timezones actually work 
( stream starts ~ 3 AM but I sleep at like ~ 5 AM )
lucid vapor
There are also three more issues with adding another stream for a foreign language
First, Vedal is already having to manage three different streams at the same time to make sure they work correctly which takes time and effort which a fourth stream would require more of
Second, This would require Vedal to be familiar with his korean fanbase despite not knowing korean. This would also make it harder to follow the rules of whichever platform he streams on like chzzk for instance since bilibili has much different rules compared to twitch which has gotten him banned multiple times
Third, He would need staff like moderators and maybe even a community manager for the korean fanbase
young cargo
Yup, menager would be mandatory for that platform and that would take aditional time and effort to handle it
that's essentially how B2 operates
lucid ermine
I thought possibly a youtube stream would work, with auto-translations. Would have the benefit of opening up to not just the Korean fanbase.
ontop of those that don't use twitch.
young cargo
I wonder if setting up some APIs would work for YT but I digress
lucid ermine
The issue with Twitch is that, in some countries, its very restricted, like in Korea (cause they left) you cannot buy subs, watch vods, etc. Iirc some other countries also have these restrictions.
Hence, I'm hoping for a youtube stream someday.
lucid vapor
He considered Multistreaming on Youtube before but I forgot what his reason was for not doing it. One of the reasons might've been the terrible moderation tools for youtube but I'm not sure. And it would also add another stream he would have to manage in addition to the other three
lucid ermine
There'd ofc need to be a high demand for it, hence, some test streams or possibly polls might be helpfull.
young cargo
Youtube is already managed by J0ker to an extent, he'd just need another moderation team for streams
lucid ermine
And possibly extra if the auto translations are enabled (for Korean, for example), but yah.
untold ember
There are also three more issues with adding another stream for a foreign langua...
Chzzk doesn’t have rules that are as different from Twitch as Bilibili does. It was created to bring in viewers after Twitch pulled out of Korea, so I don’t think that would be a big concern.
lucid vapor
Still. It would probably be easier to just add translated subtitles to the videos instead of running streams for each language seperately
It could have the potential for much bigger reach that way
lucid ermine
I agree it may be easier, but it is very limited and unreliable. A separate stream might help bring in a large group of viewers that otherwise are restricted.
In the end it really is up to Vedal, I'm just hoping for one seeing that it has been done with other languages. As long as it doesn't cause Vedal to stretch himself too far, it seems like a good idea for possible future growth.
untold ember
Koreans can’t purchase things like subscriptions on Twitch anyway, so in the end it really depends on whether Vedal wants to monetize his Korean audience tbh
lucid ermine
yah, my sub was cut after twitch left, and I had a long sub streak 
untold ember
yah, my sub was cut after twitch left, and I had a long sub streak <:NeuroBwaa:1...
same.. we can't do subs and bits.. its just isn't about reaching foreign audiences.. Korean viewers simply can’t spend money on Twitch
lucid vapor
Running a korean stream on a different platform is a much bigger step than translated subs since the translator only needs to work a few hours whenever a video is released to translate it, whether it's 5 languages or 15 since seperate streams would get more and more unreasonable the more languages you add, unlike subtitles on a video. I wouldn't really hope for the former until we get the latter
untold ember
ok bro just let us cope 
lucid ermine
I don't think translated subs will do much, I mean we have a clipper already and the main issue is monetization.
lucid vapor
Actually, something like how some clippers on youtube clip japanese vtubers and translate them for the english audience might work for Neuro steams as well. What do you think?
lucid ermine
wdym? You mean an official Korean clipping channel? (I don't really get it sorry)
untold ember
its already there??
lucid vapor
Is there already a fan channel doing that?
lucid vapor
Ok nevermind then
lucid ermine
There were multiple, only one remains now iirc
And if ever none remain I'll probably pick it up, tho my translation skills are not the best I do have some editing experience.
untold ember
Aside from the channel mentioned above, there was also a channel that mainly clipped Hololive EN but started clipping Neuro as well. i think they made the Korean viewer base grow.
wispy wagon
Running a korean stream on a different platform is a much bigger step than trans...
auto translated sub is much easier than human translating video 😂
but I'm not sure how many korean viewers will watch the stream too
maybe under 100? like jp
time zone issues
lucid vapor
auto translated sub is much easier than human translating video 😂
But auto generated subtitles are bad and unreliable sometimes, especially during collabs. It wouldn't take much effort to pay some people to translate 10-15 minute videos once a week
Pretty sure korean viewers can still watch the stream. They just can't spend any money on it
wispy wagon
yes. unless vedal is streaming on YouTube or Chzzk
so there's not much hope 
well, It seems like korean fan clip channels are more active and getting more attention than japanese ones though
I’m not sure if it’s enough to start a new stream for vedal
and I noticed vedal987_es is unused now 
but I just hope we can see korean stream one day...
If it’s not a big deal to vedal I mean
lucid ermine
wispy wagon
and I wonder how accurate the auto translated sub would be lol
kind apex
