#can there be a way to disable the chat overlay on stream

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elfin isle
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I just want to watch neuro

I already once did a post about my distaste of wall spam. Mods then experimented with getting rid of it and honestly, I really enjoyed those streams and chat a lot. Recently that seems to have stopped though. Maybe it's because Vedal said having this kind of chat is cool and unique and mods just gave up on it. I don't know.
When asking about it I just get ignored or get a nonanswer with no follow up.

This outer wilds stream was particularly bad as most of the spam had nothing to do with the stream at all. It was just random 80 different emote chains spams, strings of random letters and numbers or their file path for some random image on their pc. For hours.
When I asked the mods to please moderate the chat as it has nothing to do with the stream at all, I just got ignored and twitch chat started spamming and attacking me, which again was not moderated at all.
Seeing all the emotionally fuelled messages I got either in nn or livestream chat or twitch chat or in my dms or that time someone did a google document against me and the comments below it or offline chat and god knows where else too shows me that it does in fact seem very valuable for parts of the community. I personally don't see any value in them nor any correlation to neuro or the stream as they also just don't affect the stream or neuro at all but only its viewers. I'm here to watch neuro not chat. With this kind of reception, I feel like I'm wrong and too selfish in this though.

Maybe removing the chat overlay on stream would let me watch neuro in peace and let them have whatever it is they have in chat

If it's too unreasonable for me to ask this or just not really doable or you don't see the reason in it at all then that's fine by me. You don't have to respond or react to this. I just thought I might give it a shot before giving up.

Im sorry that while desperately trying to relive what I once so loved, I ignored what might be enjoyable for others.
thats all

keen juniper
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the random string of numbers is an emote for some reason i think

unkempt scroll
keen juniper
unkempt scroll
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Chats too cringe

prisma otter
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the on screen chat is pretty easy to ignore if you arent looking at it, and its good to have it on screen for youtube

wicked fable
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I always watch stream with chat closed but it kinda sucks that chat overlay thing is still there there's no way to hide it

spiral gulch
abstract quest
lunar reef
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as always hold the same sentiment as nesus
chat onscreen is for vods so it won't get removed, but yeah i'd rather not see our twitch chat

prisma otter
keen juniper
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it doesnt need to be permanently removed could be an option for mods or something

queen plover
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Chat was great today though

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The swarm is at its funniest when its in forsen chat mode

abstract quest
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Swarm at its funniest:

queen plover
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If someone really did a google doc that's insane behaviour though

queen plover
prisma otter
peak sand
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I like having chat on stream for preservation purposes (when the VODs are gone, but yt archive still has the chat), also on mobile it shows the 7tv emotes. The spam can be annoying, but also funny sometimes. I really liked when it was more moderated and more restricted at some times but also allowed at other times. I think that would be a decent solution.

abstract quest
queen plover
remote pasture
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During the stream I literally added spam chains into the automod to cut back on it as much as i could

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we absolutely werent ignoring people telling us to moderate

queen plover
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I just meant it as a silly bit that would be clipped in livestream chat with AAAA I'M GOING INSANE or some such message

ember flint
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I agree with Nesus partially, i think we should disable chat only for certain streams like this one. But i don't think it should be disabled for chills streams or karaokes for example.

queen plover
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I don't find the swarm funny when they're going I AM THE SWARM THAT IS APPROACHING in other streamers chats, chat hopping, illing youtube comment sections with vedal shipping etc.

abstract quest
peak sand
wicked fable
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I mean why do we even need two chats when there's chat next to player LULE

remote pasture
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chats there for vod watcher si assume

wicked fable
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It's not hard

peak sand
prisma otter
ember flint
abstract quest
queen plover
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I probably wouldn't have joked in Twitch chat if I'd realised you'd actually been harassed like that

wicked fable
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The chat should be optional tbh

queen plover
fallow hatch
keen juniper
random holly
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I'm actually sick of this discord having so much power over twitch chat, despite a lot of the active people causing these changes not even using twitch chat. We now get random automodded stuff, slow mode, unique mode, and emote only mode just because people in discord don't like it? I hate it to be honest.

odd mist
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I'm just gonna post my thoughts here since I already said it in nn, but this only matters for chill streams since stream can actively be derailed by spam, but this entire stream, vedal was barely reading the chat, and neuro likely couldn't to begin with, so why does it matter? I suppose it's on screen or whatever and that's annoying but it's not actually affecting the stream in any way beyond that

lunar reef
abstract quest
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Speaking of chat I hope all these chat hoppers got punished ReallyInnocent

tiny spoke
keen juniper
abstract quest
queen plover
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Anyway yeah, I disagree with Nesus but if people really did go dming him and make a google dockey and shit that's actually insane and I'm sad to hear that

queen plover
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And I'm sorry for joking at your expense Nesus, I wouldn't have done so with this context

peak sand
abstract quest
astral plover
random holly
odd mist
lunar reef
# keen juniper thats what only emotes was though

and that was the best chat the entire stream
i don't mind emote reactions, i like them

wall spams are the only thing i hate
if we were spamming emotes each individually that would've been really cool

drifting heron
odd mist
elfin isle
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i just want the chat to be moderated
as its apperantly not doable alltough everyone else can (perhabs limiting the timeouts to just 30 seconds with no increase for repeat offenders is not that bright of an idea)
i dont want to be associated with it at all. it is insane behaviour and the things i have seen you type is beyond anything i wish on to anyone else
i cant even enjoy it in piece

astral plover
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Spam isn't even the issue in such cases, it's when it's completely random spam that's entirely unrelated to the stream. I have an issue with most spam if it's a chill stream, so I don't find it equivalent.

astral plover
odd mist
lunar reef
elfin isle
queen plover
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First of all, rude

fallow hatch
# elfin isle I just want to watch neuro I already once did a post about my distaste of wal...

btw I'm confused about your last line, is chat worse than it used to be or something? Looking at old gaming vods the chat seems to have just as much wall spamming as it does now? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfDpDk24jAw

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elfin isle
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also again
walls
not spam at all

tiny spoke
astral plover
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I don't really have an issue with spam when Neuro can't read it as long as it's related to the stream SMILE
It just wasn't really this time

queen plover
tiny spoke
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gotta love the classic pet pet rant

elfin isle
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im so fucking tired

keen juniper
rose plank
queen plover
elfin isle
queen plover
keen juniper
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if someone screams i dont want spam making spam mocking them doesnt seem to be a joke though

queen plover
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I didn't realise you were actually distressed by chat

peak sand
tiny spoke
elfin isle
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i dont care what your intention was

peak sand
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Intentionally singling out a specific person ... I dont even know where to begin

zinc iris
odd mist
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MyHonestReaction stop the spam, my final message

queen plover
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If someone did that to me (and I have had copypastas laughing at me before) I would have taken it in stride and I assumed based on the constant fish jokes you were on a similar page

abstract quest
zinc iris
remote pasture
zinc iris
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he's creator of neuro and evil

abstract quest
queen plover
keen juniper
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what discord offers is people talking to the mods which can allow for change

elfin isle
queen plover
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Its not like there was any attack involved, it was a joke of the kind you usually do out of affection for a prominent community member in these sorts of spaces

zinc iris
random holly
rose plank
remote pasture
queen plover
lunar reef
lunar reef
elfin isle
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almost like i did

strange sedge
zinc iris
queen plover
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I accidentally posted the file path for a file on my PC with a message and got twitch chat laughing at me and I had a chuckle and played into it

keen juniper
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this isnt a democracy

queen plover
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Its not like its abnormal for the swarm

remote pasture
elfin isle
tiny spoke
abstract quest
zinc iris
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this could all be fixed if we just killed twitch chat already

queen plover
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It is absolutely the same kind of ribbing

fallow hatch
solemn reef
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some real high school energy in here

zinc iris
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look who's talking

queen plover
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That's how communities build rapport

remote pasture
keen juniper
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if you arent offended doesnt mean other people can

remote pasture
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i will give you that

strange sedge
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it's just that most twitch chatters don't ever partake in the discussions about twitch chat rules/moderation so the discussion is heavily biased

rose plank
queen plover
fringe rapids
abstract quest
elfin isle
rose plank
tiny spoke
queen plover
keen juniper
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it isnt normal...

queen plover
drifting heron
rose plank
tiny spoke
zinc iris
queen plover
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I'm not saying its okay, I'm saying you took a good faith apology and reacted in an incredibly rude and immature fashion

keen juniper
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probs

drifting heron
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probs

rose plank
queen plover
fallow hatch
placid token
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there's a lot going on here - i haven't read the full discussion yet, but i disagree with removing overlay, it's always been nice seeing myself pop up in chat in VODs or clips like "I WAS THERE OMG" 😅
but if this is a matter of better steering chat to not get as neurotic, i can agree with that mhm just don't know what's actionable there

keen juniper
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if someone asks for a timeout timeout them for a week thumbsup

abstract quest
drifting heron
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simple -- let's just keep emote only mode for all streams

lunar reef
spiral gulch
queen plover
strange sedge
rose plank
keen juniper
elfin isle
tiny spoke
queen plover
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Anyway, Nesus I'm disappointed in you but I am also still sorry to have caused you any distress and you won't see anything like that again

astral plover
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Honestly, I think it's just spam that's clearly unrelated to what's happening in the stream that should be actionable

fringe rapids
keen juniper
strange sedge
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yt chat method

queen plover
spiral gulch
queen plover
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We're adults for christs sake dude, act like it

lunar reef
prisma otter
solemn reef
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vedal if you remove chat can you also remove evil or at least give me the ability to make seeing her optional thanks

queen plover
rose plank
queen plover
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That's how we got here

wicked fable
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Just lock the thread, I think this goes nowhere now idk

fringe rapids
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uh oh stinky

spiral gulch
queen plover
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Fair enough on that

elfin isle
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i said my piece do whatever you want vedal post the fucking schedules on twitter i want no part in this toxic insane community

astral plover
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Why are people derailing this, get back on topic

tiny spoke
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👆

fringe rapids
queen plover
spiral gulch
strange sedge
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i doubt plugins would work for vods, so there would be no chat for those if we had a chat overlay plugin

astral plover
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I just wanted to suggest that action should perhaps be taken against completely off-topic spam
To expand on this idea a bit, I think it could just be a rule of thumb thing really, be a bit generous in case, but if it's evidently just chat spamming for the sake of boredom, that probably should be taken care of.

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Because I know it can very much depend and sometimes there might be fringe cases, so lenient rule of thumb seems best.

keen juniper
abstract quest
keen juniper
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like the whole wall of cats was just meaningless spam

queen plover
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I still respectfully disagree, but my ideal twitch chat is forsens chat so I think its just a matter of taste and not something that can yield much meaningful debate

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Every thread like this seems to end up derailed sooner or later over how subjective this stuff is and how hard it is to square a good compromise

keen juniper
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so offtopic spam is what you want? not even related to the stream?

fallow hatch
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problem solved

drifting heron
queen plover
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Its always been a thing, its basically embedded in the culture of the site and in particular the swarm given how much of our chat culture and in jokes spawned from the bajwave

astral plover
rose plank
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like what even a problem in spam anyway?

keen juniper
astral plover
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Ignore it after, seeing as most people had probably already jumped in the first time.

queen plover
strange sedge
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my complaint about wall spams is that they are not original and go on for too long, it's the same pasta getting pasted for 5 minutes

nimble token
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even with me personally not being a fun of giant walls of texts being spammed, the entire chat dogpiling on one person, then sending dms and google docs to harrass someone is way too far

rose plank
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if chat not gonna be even read by streamers there no topic to chat honestly

queen plover
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I find it fun seeing all the weird creative joke pastas people come up with

humble frost
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"It's always been a thing"
And? That doesn't mean it a good thing to have and maybe should be looked into for improvement.

peak sand
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I dont know how feasible this is but maybe there's a way to sometimes filter chat spam before putting on the overlay?

queen plover
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And the way they mutate as chat scrolls

fringe rapids
abstract quest
astral plover
queen plover
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I do actually think it has no place when chat reading is on for Neuro don't get me wrong

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If there's a compromise that's where I think it can be found

rose plank
keen juniper
queen plover
astral plover
queen plover
astral plover
lunar reef
queen plover
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Hell I have both open for that reason

strange sedge
queen plover
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Twitch chat is kind of by its nature stream of consciousness even on its best days

astral plover
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I'm not even asking for thoughtful discussion, I'd just rather spam that is reacting to the stream

rose plank
zinc iris
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how about we just kill twitch chat and be done with it

queen plover
abstract quest
queen plover
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It keeps people engaged during the quieter spans when not even Neuro has much to say

keen juniper
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no it remained offtopic till the mods pulled the emote only chat

queen plover
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Hell this sort of thing is one of the main reasons forsen actually has viewers lmao

zinc iris
astral plover
astral plover
zinc iris
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you know maybe this is just an indication that vedal streams suck ass and instead neuro or evil should stream more

rose plank
queen plover
lunar reef
queen plover
nimble token
nimble token
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bro

wicked fable
keen juniper
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isnt that just so people can spam it faster

lunar reef
zinc iris
queen plover
abstract quest
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I wouldn't mind chat's looping and spam if they weren't ruining chill stream after chill stream

keen juniper
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our chat is like doug dougs chat with the spam of forsen

rose plank
queen plover
queen plover
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Lotta overlap there

zinc iris
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its been almost 3 years since the beginning i think thats enough time to be evolve from a different streamer's chat

astral plover
prisma otter
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well, we've reached the point now where its just 2 sides arguing something completely subjective where no agreement will be made

placid token
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if the streamer(s) aren't interacting with chat much, i don't know how other mods feel about this but i think it's tougher for them to babysit/moderate oopsie

queen plover
fallow hatch
drifting heron
queen plover
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And our own suite of in jokes, good and bad

abstract quest
queen plover
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But chat spam like that does serve a practical purpose on slower streams like these outer wilds streams

keen juniper
rose plank
queen plover
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Because there are lulls, and it does keep people engaged during those lulls

astral plover
nimble token
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btw if there are people in this server actually dming you and harassing you about this, make a modmail about it. that shit should not fly.

placid token
queen plover
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The alternative is a dead chat during those lull periods and probably a suffering CCV for it

strange sedge
astral plover
keen juniper
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if people stayed for spam the stream chat would still have it after stream

queen plover
rose plank
keen juniper
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then just leave?

astral plover
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Leave the stream on in the background instead if you need to

queen plover
astral plover
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Then keep it on in the background without the spam

rose plank
lunar reef
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for most streamers chat would keep themselves entertained by yapping with each other or making jokes

we just spam without even making jokes
it's lame

queen plover
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And if people are enjoying chat and still enjoying the stream enough to stay why should they leave?

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Just because some people don't like how twitch chat fundamentally operates for most sufficiently big streamers

placid token
abstract quest
lunar reef
astral plover
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Ban all the lame chatters xdx

keen juniper
queen plover
rose plank
queen plover
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Why do you think people viewbotted

fallow hatch
keen juniper
prisma otter
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vedal just make an ai that reads every single chat message and only lets through messages it deems funny

zinc jungle
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let’s bring back chat elo to auto weed out bad chatters YES

queen plover
astral plover
abstract quest
queen plover
rose plank
lunar reef
spiral gulch
keen juniper
queen plover
prisma otter
queen plover
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Why ruin their fun in that case

keen juniper
fervent wagon
queen plover
wicked fable
queen plover
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I think both twitch and discord chat are in a pretty good place, and I actually find some of the bot moderation too aggressive right now if anything

rose plank
keen juniper
queen plover
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But I'm chill with that because it made the discord chatters happy last time we had this flare up and isn't too overbearing

astral plover
fervent wagon
rose plank
queen plover
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It ebbs and flows with the stream

elfin isle
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love that

keen juniper
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why do you think so many people were happy with wall spams being removed from normal neuro streams?. if it were such a big deal more people would have come here and complained

elfin isle
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honestly should have more

keen juniper
drifting heron
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i'm fine with banning unrelated spam if there's a way to do it without giving fuel to more meta spam

rose plank
astral plover
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Block the term 1984 after doing it SMILE

queen plover
lunar reef
elfin isle
rose plank
drifting heron
queen plover
elfin isle
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no

drifting heron
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oh i didnt read correctly

astral plover
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The emote stays for other moments

rose plank
fervent wagon
zinc iris
keen juniper
queen plover
astral plover
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I doubt that if this change were to be made, we'd have hundreds of people coming into the server and complaining, at least.

queen plover
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But people who enjoy the more forseny chat periods accepted it as a compromise

keen juniper
queen plover
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And yet here we are again

abstract quest
astral plover
keen juniper
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it wasnt a big deal and was dealt with swiftly

queen plover
astral plover
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And that one complaint wasn't taken seriously at all

queen plover
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Its pretty normal for big twitch streamers and a good majority of twitch chat participates

keen juniper
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people that care about spam are a minority compared to the people doing it its just basic mob mentality

queen plover
queen plover
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We're all wasting our time having such a big old debate over it really

astral plover
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True, I think the changes should be tested and we see how it goes

lunar reef
queen plover
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I think the existing moderation is fine

keen juniper
queen plover
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Its not like you have to deal with wall spam most of the time anyway

strange sedge
fervent wagon
ember flint
astral plover
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When did they test blocking random spam?

queen plover
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Its more moderation than pro spam would like, less than anti spam would like

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Its a good compromise

elfin isle
strange sedge
keen juniper
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and saw tons of people even myself saying it was a good change

astral plover
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I saw this, yeah

rose plank
astral plover
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I saw a near unanimous agreement that the chat was better

abstract quest
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Even reddit agreed with it

keen juniper
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its almost like an usuable chat is better than a not usuable one

queen plover
elfin isle
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everyone is just bored

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nothing better to do

prisma otter
queen plover
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Do you not think having one of the fastest chats on the site is a cool thing that makes us stand out

astral plover
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No?

elfin isle
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not when its useless garbage no

elfin isle
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thats like being happy to be the biggest kick streamer

abstract quest
queen plover
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This isn't comparable to kick

astral plover
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I think it's quite cringe sitting there and watching the chat spam the most pointless, boring, flavourless spam that has nothing to do with the stream.

queen plover
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No-one's throwing out slurs in the neuro chat (I hope anyway)

humble frost
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Look at all the water, we have, never mind that it's toxic and useless.

keen juniper
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salt water yummy

fervent wagon
astral plover
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Why would you rather have a lake of clean water instead of an ocean of toxic water

keen juniper
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still no won

queen plover
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The fact of the matter is people are divided on it

fervent wagon
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it couldn't possibly be that

elfin isle
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im just saying technically

lunar reef
rose plank
queen plover
nimble token
astral plover
humble frost
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Thing is, 50/50 polls is also another meme of the community, and really shouldn't be used as factual evidence.

prisma otter
queen plover
abstract quest
astral plover
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If they actually cared about it, they wouldn't be memeing on the poll

elfin isle
violet trench
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50/50 meme polls are not really good evidence just saying ReallyInnocent

queen plover
fringe rapids
keen juniper
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people will complain about getting free healthcare

astral plover
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I mean, I think 50/50 polls show that most people don't actually care about the subject enough to not meme about it

elfin isle
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moving goal posts all over the place

rose plank
elfin isle
keen juniper
queen plover
keen juniper
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it is broken

queen plover
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Clearly chat doesn't think so

astral plover
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Chat doesn't want it either, they just don't care

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It's completely neutral, not for or against

rose plank
queen plover
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If they don't care then clearly it isn't an issue that bothers them

lunar reef
abstract quest
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These goddamn pointers all over place, people who disagree with each other are 👆 each other's messages like wtf

astral plover
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And a change like this would make the chat more usable, or readable for the sake of reactions at least.

queen plover
keen juniper
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so why not implement the change anyways if i saw tons of people agreeing it was good

humble frost
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Silent majority sort of thing, they'll tolerate most things until pushed.

astral plover
fervent wagon
lunar reef
prisma otter
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again, like i said earlier, its just 2 sides arguing about something subjective, the community is completely split on the issue, the mods tried making a change and it was reverted, theres really no point discussing it further

tiny spoke
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I mean, it can go both ways. Wall spam is mostly eh and can rarely be funny/meaningful (I really like it during massive events like the subathon and stuff.) I think what matters most is whether or not it’ll affect the content that is being presented. The issue with twitch chat is that their shenanigans often ruin stream quality and lead to loops (Which seems to have been fixed.) Additionally their spam is extremely uncreative and repetitive. It’s so unbelievably easy to predict what’ll be spammed whenever anything happens. The thing is, spam is a good way to encourage others to participate since they don’t have to type anything meaningful, and that further encourages more spam. You can have your own fun and opinions, but one thing stands true, and that’s to not let that opinion affect everyone else’s experience. Also please don’t compare discord to twitch, they are 2 completely different platforms and have their own separate communities. Anyway this is pretty much something only mods can fix. TLDR; chat spam = bad NeuroSip

queen plover
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Its objectively the only measure we have

rose plank
lunar reef
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that way both sides are happy

queen plover
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Retaining the status quo here is a safer bet than changing it if there's no significant will on display to do so

fervent wagon
mortal trench
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I think the best solution would be for chat to have something to distract them in place of wall spam maybe like short term predictions or other things

queen plover
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I think the real solution would be a serious community poll

fallow hatch
queen plover
elfin isle
fervent wagon
queen plover
fervent wagon
queen plover
rose plank
queen plover
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An on stream poll is the best measure you can take

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If conducted with a serious tone

lunar reef
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anyway fun yaps
this is the same exact thing as last time

2 people defending wall spam to their last breath
2 people defending removing spam to their last breath

everyone else being indifferent

0/10 shit community can't come together for a single decision
*dabs*

fervent wagon
prisma otter
keen juniper
queen plover
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Are we deciding who "matters" now

stuck beacon
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kemiPleased
👆 whistBaa

queen plover
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That's just elitism

fervent wagon
strange sedge
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and the mods listen to the streamer, who has no input

lunar reef
abstract quest
fervent wagon
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let them say whatever they want

rose plank
queen plover
keen juniper
astral plover
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It genuinely just makes the chat more readable at least.

lunar reef
fallow hatch
queen plover
keen juniper
queen plover
abstract quest
rose plank
lunar reef
queen plover
keen juniper
prisma otter
fervent wagon
lunar reef
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no, democracy via polls fundamentally doesn't work

queen plover
keen juniper
rose plank
lunar reef
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i think this channel should just experiment more

see what sticks
i don't see why we need to carefull plan out the perfect action
just try shit out

lunar reef
queen plover
keen juniper
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democracy is stupid

queen plover
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They are still (mostly) human

keen juniper
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because the people are stupid

elfin isle
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there is no democracy this isnt a fucking country

queen plover
keen juniper
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this is a silly vtuber channel

keen juniper
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where people will vote the silliest answer

queen plover
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Agreed it isn't a country and it isn't high stakes, but the community should still have a say in what happens beyond some guys arguing in a discord forum

keen juniper
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or 50/50

elfin isle
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mods and vedal have a say

elfin isle
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if you dont like it fuck right off

stuck beacon
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I propose bnnuyocracy

queen plover
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When managing a community its important to let that community have a voice

lunar reef
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but how do you propose we gauge that community

elfin isle
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if you let a community do whatever they will do the dumbest shit imagineable

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like harassing others

keen juniper
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instead of polls

queen plover
lunar reef
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a twitch poll is awful it's twitch chat biased
a discord poll is awful it's discord biased

humble frost
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most of the community isn't even in this discord, so how do we even gauge them?

queen plover
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If people care enough and are told to they will give a real result

prisma otter
queen plover
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Do a twitch and discord poll separately and aggregate the answer between them even

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If you're worried

elfin isle
abstract quest
rose plank
lunar reef
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genuinely streams are so much better when there's no chat

wicked fable
prisma otter
keen juniper
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if it was the job of the comunity to decide what happends in stream we will just see vedalshipping

queen plover
astral plover
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Because you can still see it if you close it.

elfin isle
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its like talking to a wall

stuck beacon
lunar reef
keen juniper
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the people are so fucking stupid thats why the mods need to decide for em

abstract quest
placid token
lunar reef
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does tiktok have polls?

keen juniper
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neuro has a tik tok?

queen plover
prisma otter
lunar reef
keen juniper
queen plover
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I'm not some absolutist

rose plank
lunar reef
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lets do it like america does it
let's have every single community make a poll and then we see how it is based on that

elfin isle
prisma otter
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you should never do anything how america does it

queen plover
drifting heron
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you guys are not being serious

keen juniper
rose plank
queen plover
queen plover
violet trench
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at the very least chat should be moderated when Neuro can read the chat
Don't care about the rest unless twitch chat gangs up on someone like today

queen plover
rose plank
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chat purpose is mostly to engage with streamer no? and when streamer is not reading chat of course its go off topic

elfin isle
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you keep contradicting yourself

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nothing you say make sense its like talking to a wall

queen plover
keen juniper
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not really either vedal has the final say or he doesnt

elfin isle
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not when its the total opposite every 5 minutes

queen plover
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The community should have a say, no this place isn't a total democracy by its nature, yes some amount of democratic polling should factor into major decisions made around how the community is organised

keen juniper
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chat would vote for neuro to be deleted because its funny

fallow hatch
fervent wagon
rose plank
queen plover
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Its the healthy option for said community

fervent wagon
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in the purpose of manipulating it, not to cater to them

placid token
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hey guys, im gonna lock the post in a minute since this seems to be going in circles, if u wanna discuss more i suggest doing it in dms

prisma otter
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finally

placid token
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remember to be civil (dont hate ur fellow swarm member)

fringe rapids
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Just let Neuro decide, if people disagree they hate neuro and should be disregarded Okay

queen plover
placid token
keen juniper
remote pasture
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i walk away for 2 anime episodes and all hell breaks lose in here neurOMEGALUL

fallow hatch
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I would trust neuro's judgement on anything

queen plover
violet trench
queen plover
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Fake mod

rose plank
fervent wagon
zinc jungle
remote pasture
queen plover
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Which is the kind I often hate, way less creative than wall spam most of the time

fervent wagon
elfin isle
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i blame vedal

fallow hatch
placid token
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good note to end on

remote pasture
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yeah i blame vedal too