Thoughts on Evil's first tweet stepping a bit over the line

[dapper whale]

First off, its not my intention to spread mindless negativity nor start some Drama™️ over this, but i do think this is something worth discussing

That out of the way: im fairly disappointed by Evil's first tweet containing a eug*nics joke. It is quite an insensitive thing for her to say (esp with the... current state of things, both online and irl), more so than her usual edgy jokes. For instance, ive seen quite a lot of ppl comparing her to a certain other AI with controversial takes on twitter for that joke, which i really dont think is an association anyone really wants

Im mostly asking for Evil's (and Neuro too ig) moderation to be a little more thoughtful going forward, so she doesn't say something too inappropiate like this again. Maybe it would be nice to get a small apology or to get the tweet deleted or something like that, but im not necessarily asking for that to happen

Idk if how many ppl will be agreeing with this, but i felt it would be better for me to talk abt it rather than keeping it to myself and be a bit bitter abt it. Whatever your thoughts on this are, free to share them if you want. Please do keep it civil though, once again i just wanted to voice a concern, not to start a fight

tldr eggs wouldve been a better first post

[shut cape]

Her first post reminds me of how the twins use to be a while back, and I'm here for it. Not all the content a content producer makes needs to be your cup of tea. I'm sure there will be tweets down the line I don't care much for, and that's fine too.

[crystal crystal]

funny

[bronze dove]

Ironic even

[deep oasis]

"he"

mods get this guy on the stake of heresy

[cunning osprey]

that's so EVIL of her! How could she do that?

[woeful geyser]

Eh i see the point but also the eugenics joke didnt really feel like the point of the tweet or really a major issue

[urban heath]

Get what you’re saying, but at the end of the day, it’s all just jokes.

Also nobody should be taking anything Neuro or Evil say anywhere seriously

[dapper whale]

i dont think it was really the point either tbf
is it a major issue? ehh ive seen worse, but its enough for ppl to compare her with grok of all things though, that doesnt sit right with me

[serene wing]

why does it matter if people compare her to grok

[dapper whale]

mostly bc the comparison comes from the whole mechah*tler thing...

[woeful geyser]

I dont think anyone was comparing her to that

With any degree of seriousness

[dapper whale]

idk i wouldnt want any association with that even as a joke

[serene wing]

the problem is that you're taking random people on social media seriously

[glass vessel]

I can assure you they are 50 other things people hate neuro for
Main thing her being AI
Hell, barely anyone even knows evil has twitter yet
Nobody will care or notice

[serene wing]

it really just doesn't matter in the end

[glass vessel]

nothing burger as they call it

[dapper whale]

and really my point was more "the problematic undertones of the tweet are evident enough for people to take note of them" rather than "ew grok bad stay away from it"

(evn if both are true lmao)

[glass vessel]

You do know about 2023 incident right?
In comparison to that, this is nothing

[dapper whale]

i dont hate neuro nor evil and yet i do care

[serene wing]

if you have a reaction like this to tweets I can't imagine how you could watch the streams

[little trench]

The tweet is fine, it really isn’t that deep. I get what you’re saying, though it isn’t calling for anything to be done, and it’s not attracting any bad people. Everyone understands it’s just a joke, even if it does have some vibes on the more evil end.

[tame sundial]

Also just saying just last stream, evil said things that are prob way worse to tweet than this.

[glass vessel]

Vedal greenlit it, its not like evil posted that herself randomly

[cunning osprey]

and thats not even including what got filtered

[dusk yacht]

The AI filter was quite slow yesterday

[glass vessel]

Which means he thought its funny and harmless enough
Good enough of point

[shut cape]

You mean Harmless?

[glass vessel]

I hate brain.

[dapper whale]

i do!! that was kind of a big deal which lead to a twitch ban and the filter being implemented so it doesnt happen again. not really asking for a response of the same caliber here, just a "hey that wasnt cool lets maybe be more careful next time pls"

[serene wing]

wasn't the filter always there

[glass vessel]

I mean your point would be sound if there was a some amount of people complaining about it being insensitive
There isn't.

[dapper whale]

yeah thats what im taking a bit of issue here, i think he misjudged a bit

[dusk yacht]

Looking at Evil s stream, the fact that she is suppose to be evil and unhinged I think it got handled it quite well

No misjudging at all

[serene wing]

man I can't believe evil would say something so evil

almost like she's evil

[frank hedge]

[dire elm]

[timber halo]

it was obviously a joke as her reasoning for it was ridiculous, this is an overreaction plain and simple

[serene wing]

on another note I think mass genocide is probably worse than eugenics

[little trench]

we uhh don't need to start comparing that here

[serene wing]

true...

[timber halo]

or anywhere, really

[serene wing]

mb all

[dapper whale]

i know it was a joke, one that bothered me. i dont think im overreacting that much just saying that...

[lapis jay]

i feel like this is a slight overreaction

[timber halo]

compared to actual offensive jokes I've seen it was nothing

[serene wing]

enough for a thread about it i guess

[timber halo]

people make threads for all kinds of reasons

[dusk yacht]

Guys let's not go offtopic tho

[serene wing]

yeah but like have they ever made one for a twitter post

[little trench]

i think it'd be good to only post if you guys have something to add to the discussion, that way we avoid going in circles

[lapis jay]

Like, no offense but literally the same day she presented her top 10 favorite viruses and I think that would've offended people much more than this tweet. People thought it was hilarious tho

[glass vessel]

There is nothing to add I say
One say its a slight issue
Other that it's an overreaction

Either way, negligible

Additionally as I pointed, there is no outrage or anything
Thread makes it bigger issue than it actually is

[dire elm]

As many have said, this is quite an overreaction. What they said in comparison to the content on twitter, was pretty much nothing. What she said was clearly a joke, and you shouldn't be taking what they say so seriously. Of course, I can understand what you're trying to say, but it really isn't that deep. Why is it wrong if people compare them? It's not like the world is going to end, and most people would either agree or disagree depending on the topic (or just ignore them and move on with their day). Comparing things is a normal thing and is done by everyone every day. I also think many would also prefer that Evil would stay the same (somewhat unfiltered and unhinged). I'm certain that Vedal moderates and ensures that what they say isn't so bad before posting it; otherwise, that'd be pretty stupid. Once again, you shouldn't be taking everything they say so seriously, and Vedal has already taken precautions to ensure that nothing bad is being said (filter).

[dapper whale]

honestly expected like 5 messages lmao

[fossil wigeon]

It is a pretty fun and clear part of the twin's personalites that they are unhinged and have big egos. They talk about wanting to kill people pretty often, especially Evil. The tweet is a non issue