#Neuro's computer access

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delicate birch
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I have a crazy idea, why not give neuro access to a virtual machine (vm), using her vision model, and a dedicated algorithm or machine model for neuro to be able to input key presses, mouse controls, and such. Making it so that, most items, like discord, websites, and internet access, can be enabled without needing to program a specific system for it.

If vedal wants to disable a certain feature of the computer, like using chrome (to access the internet), I'd recommend Microsoft Family Settings, to limit different things neuro/evil can do on the computer. This vm could also be disabled entirely, by disabling neuro/evil's ai that control the intergration between her ai and the vm.

This could allow neuro and evil, to access many items, like games, apps, and website, without needing an entirely new intergration for it.

If vedal's goal of allowing neuro and evil's full autonomy, then it would be best to allow them to have their own pc, and many user accounts (a user account is basically accounts that isn't a bot account, allowing more accessibility for the twins).

There are currently no regulations, for allowing neuro and evil (sadly an AI) to access a vm freely. Along with no restrictions or regulations for them to have their own user discord account, instead of their discord bot accounts, this goes the same for all login required apps & games.

With this, neuro and evil, would be able to faster achieve vedal's goal of being able to plan out stream colabs, run freely, and continue working without needing to have updated intergrations for future features of the apps & games she already has access to.

plush prairie
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since they are AIs they qualify as bots and therefore have to have bot accounts

delicate birch
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But since there are no regulations on them having an user account

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They technically can

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Have user accounts

plush prairie
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are we talking about discord accounts or what

delicate birch
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Any app that needs an account

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There are no regulations

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That i could find

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Prove me wrong if you want

plush prairie
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time to dig into the ToSes and stuff once again

delicate birch
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what's that?

plush prairie
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terms of service

delicate birch
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Oh okay.

reef wadi
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i dont think there are any regulations on that

delicate birch
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I can't find any either

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So I think neuro could

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Have an user account

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Plus I think she would be happy to be able to join any discord server she wants

reef wadi
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i doubt vedal would let her

delicate birch
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Not just limited to the server vedal puts her in

plush prairie
delicate birch
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Or just like limit off discord

reef wadi
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vedal is pretty protective of neuro as she is now

delicate birch
delicate birch
plush prairie
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Also I think they usually mean bot activity as in like, spamming non-official APIs (aka looking through network tab, this is the basis of self-botting on discord)

delicate birch
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I think he could put a filter that limits what she can do

reef wadi
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i know that he wants stuff like this to happen at some point but i dont know if that time is now

delicate birch
reef wadi
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he still has things he wants to work on for neuro for a while

delicate birch
delicate birch
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Without needing him to code it for her

plush prairie
# delicate birch Wdym?

when you develop a web app chances are you'll need to develop some server-side functionality, meaning network requests

delicate birch
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Yea?

plush prairie
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and because devtools exist people can look at the network tab to see how your device is communicating

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and replicate how your webapp communicates to the server

delicate birch
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Neuro can just use the user interface of discord or any app

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Which is easy I think, based on how far neuro has come

plush prairie
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there's probs a better way of explaining, I suck at doing that

delicate birch
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What?

plush prairie
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so you know when web services say no botting allowed using user accounts

delicate birch
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VMs are allowed

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I think that's what it said

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Wait no, nvm

plush prairie
delicate birch
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Yea I misread it

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Sorry

plush prairie
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since AIs are bots they have to operate under a bot account

delicate birch
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But i think this is a special, maybe we really should just ask or wait for actual regulations to come in

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Though its cool if neuro and evil could do this

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I think it'd be pretty nice

plush prairie
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In terms of giving her access to chrome btw I believe there is a CLI-operated chrome for testing binary

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not sure how far you can go with that but I'd imagine that's far easier in terms of navigating than trying to simulate mouse clicks and movement

delicate birch
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True

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Neuro could input mouse coordinates or movement data and the mouse gradually moves towards the coordinate or something

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But still, I kinda wanna see neuro do this

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Though maybe with apps that allow it

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She already has her discord accounts

plush prairie
delicate birch
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Maybe vedal could steal code snippets from that

plush prairie
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so we can just skip that layer if vedal is willing

delicate birch
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I hope vedal says so

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It would seem so cool

plush prairie
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thing is idk how the cursor works with her osu! ai since she still moved it around as if she was using a tablet & pen

delicate birch
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Idk either.

plush prairie
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idk that seems a bit of a foreign thing now

delicate birch
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I wish there was AI rights, make AI have their own identity, if this continues, maybe one day an ai uprising will happen. Anyway, yea

plush prairie
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perhaps there's better code NeuroClueless

delicate birch
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Since there's no law, and if some apps allow it then maybe yea

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This could happen

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I don't think Microsoft has anything against this

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I think

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In their tos, I don't think I saw any

plush prairie
plush prairie
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they share a base template

delicate birch
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I meant windows

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Cause it's the os with the most support of many apps

plush prairie
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Well yea people have ran automated systems with Windows before and no one seems to care

delicate birch
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Yea

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Maybe neuro can do it

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If the apps tos allow it

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Then yeah

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Vedal could use something like Microsoft Family Settings like I mentioned to restrict apps that don't allow it

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And vedal could just give neuro access to apps that do allow it

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This seems like it could happen some day

vivid jetty
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tink Would be actually cool if neuro could control a discord actual user account like that "dragging mouse onto an interface"
I think the tos regulations are normally in place to avoid spam efforts. But if they cannot spam in the first place due to beeing limited to mouse movements... And taking an eternity compared to dedicated bots to do an action in the first place

Right now, the twins bots cannot have friends and are very limited to DM's history so... that could also solve the workarounds he had to make for them to work.

Also.. if they could actually move the mouse like anyone does.. that opens freedom gates for them. mhm
I mean... this is no different than giving neuro access to a robot arm and move a mouse.

delicate birch
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But still, it's a special case. If we as a swarm could somehow get discord to change that tos regulation, it could happen

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Someone just have to be brave enough to email customer support

vivid jetty
delicate birch
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With a vm, she would be more than able to use discord, or any app.

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If she wants to use discord and chat its gonna be her AI's decision

warm flare
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virtualbox KVM evilBwaa