#Nwero Bingo
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@lament scarab migrated the forum post
have you looked into a team to aid with prompts?
not yet sorry! I'll try to ask around
the bingo may or may not be configured at all for today's stream 
annd i forgot to bring my laptop with me today, this'll def be... interesting to set up
deployed
i quickly looked at them, they're the animator and songwriter for LIFE (in the order listed in the schedule)
maybe "collab partners talk about LIFE" as a prompt?
Oh this much I knew
I was just gonna check their streams and see their most said mannerisms and stuff
Like how Numi always stutters
Cerber says “yeah yeah yeah” a lot
Camila does a gremlin laugh often
Etc etc
Helps fill out my dataset
mhm!
im gonna explode
okay idk its 5:40AM im going to bed
I hope I dont miss stream
its prompts are pretty much done
I might need to add some if you can
also add neuro prompts from past collabs
I couldnt be bothered to add them all
Lemme know if the prompts are good
I wish I could of learned more about Monii and Mimi but there wasn’t much easily accessible info, and their recent streams didn’t help much
But I did my best
alright perfect
i'll add them in before the stream starts
will also preload the neuro solo cos i tend to not be available during those these days
Oh oh
ADD (Aliens abductions) to the topic list
I think I forgot alien stuff
re-implemented bingo detection into the codebase
added a button in the prompt explanation that replaces the "reminder to not bait the twins" speil if the prompt is part of a confirmed bingo. purpose of this button is to allow for "unmarking" the prompt, thus unmarking the bingo
So how was the prompts? I wasnt able to watch most of the stream sadly I was in and out
hoping my bad collab partner prompts didnt ruin the bingos
lmao thats funny
mostly spent their time talking about moon rats
classic neuro stream
either way there was a small incident at the start where
- i was cooking dinner, so i forgot to post the bingo message 10m before the start
- the bingo's update mechanism is fucked and needs a redo. it reset some people's boards
huh okay
my final bingo thing to say is
do we still wanna work on archiving past bingos's for Vod viewing? we discussed it a few times but understandable you've been supre busy and I was fucking cooked outta my mind after subathon
well ping me when the schedule comes out to let me know if I have to make prompts for another new stream
this is partially being aided via the way i'm formatting commits when i change the prompts, so eventually i'll build a database containing the historical sheets
epic
no pressure I just didnt know if that was still on the board
@lament scarab
collab prompts needed!
yo umbrella, i'm gonna quickly remind you about the prompt team i threw at you a while ago
might be beneficial if you're running out of time to work on prompts 
yeah sorry, i've been wanting to do that but ive been so scatter brained recently
im sorry again
total fuck up on my part
it's okay!
if you want i can give a call in neurotic neurons post-stream saying if anyone wants to help to come here
and then you handle them
sure that works for me
i'll make a "style guide" for prompts at some point as well
to help direct the newbies
Also
are we having a Sinder collab tomorrow?
I heard her discuss a collab and the schedule says potential collab
just cause then we'll be kinda throwing the greenies into the frying pan lmao
@raven thistle
we can't estimate stuff in advance because i post the bingo before opening livestream chat
if i come out saying "the bingo is configured for a sinder collab" and then turns out it's.. idk, aquwa for example, then we look stupid
the only things i can pre-configure are the neuro and evil automated streams
Oh yeah yeah I know
I just was wondering if the mod “rumour mill” had more info
All good if not
Just being curious
yeah we don't know shit gonna be honest
Gotcha
Once again, sorry about lack of prompts today
Sleep schedule is fucked bad
even if i did i wouldn't be allowed to say 
but it's okay, don't worry
@raven thistle ping me in your recruitment post when you end up doing it (unless you already have and I missed it)
:))
@lament scarab need prompts for disneyland trip
involved parties: Neuro, Evil, BTMC, and Chrchie
@raven thistle you around
yeah, what's up?
just almost done the bingo, took an allnighter to do since I thought the diney collab was on friday for some reason
was gonna ask if you had any input since Im a little rattled atm
alrighty!
also here's a twin prompt: Brain Tumor Megacolon Cancer
right great thank you
also just as long as there are 21 prompts overall you'll be fine, but it's preferable to get over that number
currently there's 19
yeah once I fill out the BTMC and Chrchie we should be fine
thats the hardest category
i can imagine 
@raven thistle wanna put out another casting call in NN
see if we get any bites
can you do it pls im going to bed
sure no problem
have a good night
they keep ignoring me
Welp I tried to fish for helpers but no bites
@raven thistle im not done with the Evil prompts and Ill probably add more stream/guest prompts
But lemme know what you think/if it will be a supersize bingo
@raven thistle sorry for the secondary ping but I just wanna know what size we're gonna make the bingo
@raven thistle okay how is the bingo looking with the prompts given
Is it enough
Sorry I’m like omega sleep deprived and I wanna take a nap before the stream so I don’t miss it so I’m asking now
perfect, thanks
bingo went infinitely better for evil birthday than it did subathon
good work
@lament scarab now we gotta do the next stream 
if you really want to, we can skip it
sorry for not responding, tho obviously I wasnt planning on setting it up, I crashed out and slept right after stream ended
bro just perished post-stream
im still sick with the flu
I woke up with a clusterheadache today
so im very much suffering
hi

hello
@raven thistle can you pin the google doc?
(Ill have to reorganize it at some point but eh, if it aint broke dont fix it)
+1 prompter
i'll set stuff up after the stream, but i'll get you edit access to the google doc and outline what'd be needed

and Ill help you learn the ropes of what kinda prompts are optimal and stuff
i've been meaning to make a style guide for the new guys, so Ill get on that when I can
oki!
@hazy sable in dms can you send me your email address assinged to a google account so that you can edit the google doc. i recommend something without your actual name since the document is public knowlege
@lament scarab @hazy sable tomorrow is a neuro stream, i'll be loading in the standard neuro prompts, but for friday we have a twin stream. i don't think we have twin stream prompts but if we do they're probably severely outdated. as part of your first stream, i'd like for some twin prompts to be made

to clarify how making prompts work:
- Prompts are split up into "buckets". These buckets are mainly an internal tool to allow for seperation of prompts and precice weighting so that only a certain amount of prompts are present. However, they are also used by you as more of a category system.
- For the twin stream, 3 buckets will be used. One is for Neuro, one is for Evil, and the final one is for misc actions which could be either of them or both of them at the same time.
- A standard bingo card is 5x5 in size, currently 1 is used as a free space and 3 more are taken up by random chat prompts. This leaves 21 prompts to be divided between these 3 buckets, resulting in a minimum of 7 prompts per bucket in most situations. I will note down on the google doc if this is not the case.
- Prompts provided should be short but meaningful. Umbrella has done a great job so far, so if you need ideas, look at his existing work. For twin stream, you may find it useful to borrow from the existing Evil solo and Neuro solo prompts, while coming up with custom ones (such as evil insulting neuro, etc). If a prompt name provided to me is too long, I will shorten it myself when inputting the data
- Prompt explanations are written by me when inputting the data into the bingo schedule. If a specific prompt needs more clarification, please note it down in a way that I can tell is meant to explain it to me, seperate it via
{prompt name} - {explanation}if possible - If a prompt is not appropriate, I will cross it out and note the reason why I didn't include it in a lighter color. If I'm low on time, such as having to configure the bingo last-minute, I will simply omit it from the inputted data and not clarify.
After twin stream, I think we need to rehash the chat prompts with more up-to-date emotes, as some people have mentioned that some of the emotes included just aren't used anymore (such as
, in favor of
nowadays)
ironically,
was spammed when one of the twins said huh last stream
yep 
wtf was that xdx emote
also, someone remind me later that the emote implementation sucks ass and needs redoing
i've been getting reports that the bingo straight up will fail to update the bingo explanation modal in time if emotes are in use
i'll assume that the prompts provided in the document are for the misc bucket and i'll steal some prompts from the solos
Yee I added twin prompts
When was the last time we’ve had a twin stream without a theme lol
btw: in the future, i did ask for 3 buckets so i was expecting 3 seperate lists under twin stream 
its alright for this stream cos i could just steal from the solo buckets, but if that had happened for e.g. evil birthday i wouldn't have been able to deploy the bingo for the stream. just makes it easier for all involved if all lists needed are present
ah my bad, i thought all the other things were their own buckets
nah this is my fault I probably should have told you how prompts were set up sooner
@raven thistle assuming no bingo since we have no info on tomorrow stream
Unless we get info tonight
yep
@lament scarab @hazy sable if ya'll wanna speedrun, vedal disclosed in NN that it's minecraft
if it works
specifically, it's twins playing minecraft but just the subathon way. one of the twins will play and the other backseat
Which one is playing
uncertain
I’ll be able to contribute when I can get to me pc
what are all the loading messages when neuro restarts her game, that can be its own bucket
@hazy sable great work man, we got that done fast
@raven thistle Okay boss I think we're done unless meta adds anything last minute
looking thorugh subathon vods for any ideas
trying to avoid any multiplayer prompts just in case they're alone
good idea
@hazy sable okay we have an EvilxElliebot collab on friday and a Filian collab on Saturday (probably chess iirc)
So prepare your brain for those
I’ll handle the collab partners stuff then
Ellie stream will be designing a robot body I believe, but be aware that Ellie is well known to allow the twins to veer pretty heavily and discuss more intellectual topics
So keep that in mind
I’ll set up the categories in the doc in a bit
oki!
@raven thistle i know you’re eeping so hopefully this doesn’t wake you up
But Vani just added a “Schedule allowed” tag for art that the creator allows on the schedule, since they are permitting their art for the schedule, isn’t that a pretty good indication that they would allow it on bingo board?
Just pointing out a potential way to increase our art acquisition efficiency
pretty good indication, but also we will still need to request permission
prompt idea: "evil mentions CFRB"
Funny thing is that there’s a chance that she just never says the full phrase during that stream
@lament scarab @hazy sable if possible, can ya'll cook chess? there's twin chess in the doc somewhere so maybe use that as a base? assume that it's neuro Vs. <someone> and that each round is neuro facing off against someone else, like a game show
Understood
Will do
debating whether filian would play or whether she'd be more of a game show host...
make enough prompts to support both, i'll improve the autoupdater tomorrow so i can switch in real-time
Filian plans to "play" with neuro but Vedal has been procrastinating the implementation
at least thats what she said
will be tough without any details but if multiple vtubers are being involved, neuro will most likely be playing against multiple different people, so we should just focus on that
if she is playing then the prompts will cover it anyways, and if she's game show hosting, then we don't even know how that would go to make any prompts for it in the first place and since the bingo is only for the swarm, they'd probably want it to relate to neuro more than "generic fillian prompt"
we have posted the bingo in other community discords in the past
ah ok got it
@lament scarab @hazy sable need prompts done by 6pm BST pls thanks!
Yep almost done, just gotta finish uo the filly prompts
well i need to prepare the bingo now
we have enough for the other 2 buckets, just missing at least 2 fillian prompts
i'll just adjust the neuro prompts bucket to use more than the 7 minimum is all
could also move some of the fillian interactions with her to the fillian bucket instead
if we move them all neuro bucket will have exactly 7
dw i have it handled
oh shit tbh I completly forgot what BST to EST was
my fault
also dont we still have an hour and a half
all good
added Metabilis to credit list
@lament scarab @hazy sable since there's no custom bingo prompts needed this week, i'm thinking we could refresh the neuro and evil solo prompts? mainly update them with the latest happenings + deal with any potentially subjective ones
Been thinking about updating that, as well as the chat prompts
ive updated the solo and chat prompts, might add more while watching more solo streams in case i missed some things they usually do
was thinking neuro/evil exclusive prompts could be their own bucket but i couldnt think of anymore for neuro and i didnt want evil having a lot more prompts than her sister XD
@hazy sable thank you a lot man, Ive been so busy recently so Im really glad you're here to help me with the prompts and such

As long as we get about an hour or two, can probably make up stuff quickly
yeah I'm finally no longer as busy so I should be able to cook a lot faster and more reliably now
@hazy sable @lament scarab speedrun on plague inc if possible 
Sure boss
im not too familiar with the game and less so with shylily 
I can do it
bingo research moment
sorry I didnt get far enough in the game to get good game prompts 
i barely did any game prompts and got nothing for shylily 
@hazy sable @lament scarab alright, we've got 2 newcomers this week!
focus on Michi meets the twins first. camila is involved so we're looking at 3 buckets this time (twin bucket, michi, and camila)
looks like geoguesser going to be first now

alright, geoguesser it is!
use prompts from dougdoug, but they're not compeating i don't think
add "japan" as a prompt, kyoto japan reference
doesn't have to specifically be kyoto, just japan

merged the art and game prompts into a single prompt, "changes scene", mainly cos she either does an art review or plays a game, never seen her do both. so avoids a sort of "dead space" situation that is sometimes a problem 
i'm basing it on scene change because i just can't think of a better way to explain it rn, because the only thing that really ties art review and game is the scene 
I’ve seen them do art and game in the same stream, just not recently though, probably due to art review being broken, but that’s fair enough
should i split the common prompts into their own category so you can either lower their weights or put them in a bucket that adds one or two of them? ill do the same with the evil prompts with your notes on the neuro prompts in mind @raven thistle
yeah that'd work as long as they all have enough
i can move like maybe 5 or more into there
hmm... might not be enough. we'll wait for the next time we redo the solos
alright then~
its been a year surely shes better 
looks like neuro's carrying today 
@hazy sable @lament scarab laimu geoguessr prompts are now finalized, can you work on Michi meeting twins?
okay so archive the geoguessr prompts for now
they WILL be used, just not today
i need michi meeting twins though
got it boss
@hazy sable in response to your comment on the doc, a couple months ago Michi genuinely thought Neuro was just vedal with a voice changer
@raven thistle reminder to update evil prompts so you dont forget again and also the chat prompts 
ive also crossed out the prompts based on your notes for neuro's prompts so it all should be good
its a lot of prompts so i split them into a common category, idk if you'll pick and choose some or if you'll make a new bucket for those
since theres a ton of new sound effects ill split the sound effect prompt to all the sounds they use often
maybe i can change how stuff works internally to allow for each person to get a different sfx prompt?
thoughts? @hazy sable forgot puing
ping
you mean like one random sfx per bingo card? that could work
@lament scarab @hazy sable got a collab and a themed stream this week
priortise collab
Yes ma’am
@lament scarab @hazy sable remember i need prompts ready for tomorrow
I know I know Im working on it
Prompts will be done tonight, currently just doing some cleaning work then will finish up the final ones


@hazy sable @raven thistle okay there are 7 minimum in each category but Mega category could use two more if you have any ideas
its hard to make them with Mega since she doesnt really have any signature tics or mannerisms
sorry if its sloppy, I really tried to research but there wasnt a lot of conceret stuff that coudl be easily changed into bingo prompts

my bad
@hazy sable @raven thistle The bingo for tomorrows stream has begun to form
lemme know if you guys have input on it
as we dont know what exactly the stream will entail, I've set it up assuming itll be a sort of Neuro Stand-Up night
I have not added anything for potential guest appearances yet, lemme know what your predictions/speculations are
i have no idea, i think its gonna be neuro on stage telling jokes and maybe like cut to evil doing something else, maybe in the audience trashing neuro or something
so uhhhh
@lament scarab
you know how you put a lot of effort into the prompts?
well my server kinda just self-combusted
Bruh
it died laughing at the jokes
@lament scarab @hazy sable saturday: neuro solo, but i'll fork the prompts and have people get individual prompts on when she ends, forming groups as a result
sunday: i need prompts for TEMU 


@raven thistle Okay I need to reconfirm, you DONT need us to create prompts for the Neuro "end when she wants" stream
there will be a few extra prompts added by myself. like "neuro threatens to end stream" and a special bucket for "neuro ends before 2h 40m" and "neuro ends after 2h 40m"
got it, thanks for the clarification
cant wait to have 0 on my bingo board that stream 
@lament scarab @hazy sable BIG: Vedal MIGHT be present for temu
according to schedule
Potentially we do this stream in 4 buckets
Stream prompts:
Vedal prompts:
Filian prompts:
Neuro prompts:
Then we can remove vedal bucket if he doesn’t show
i'll be able to deploy slightly late to account for it
now that we know vedal will be on stream, the products might be going to him and fillian is just there so i assume vedal will be in charge of buying and vetoing products
i am so glad we didn't put so much effort into that stream
might i propose using neuro-sama cursors to the site
could be an idea
if you need, i can get the files converted from .ani to .gif. I heard .ani isn't supported on most browsers
@lament scarab @hazy sable speedrun!
we'll use default prompts for the experimental neuro stream
so just need tomorrows 
got it

@hazy sable alright bud, we got minecraft next

@lament scarab @hazy sable seems like mini & neuiro minecraft isn't finished and probably won't be finished in time. that's alright, don't worry. while it's fine to miss one stream every once and a while, it does highlight that maybe we might not have enough people to pull off such a quick turnaround on bingo prompts
if ya'll want, i can steal someone from nn and put them to work in the bingo mines with ya'll 
Sorry I couldn’t think of more prompts for mini or generic stream prompts XD
Need a person more familiar with collab partners
if it were cerber i could easily help, but i don't watch mini really...
Also stream starts an hour later, maybe I could stretch a few prompt ideas and split some of the neuro ones up
maybe? it'd be a stretch...
thing is anything neuro does is a neuro prompt, anything mini does is a mini prompt, and anything the game does or is misc is stream prompt
I did held back on the neuro prompts because it was getting full
I mean I can like split neuro killing mini to be mini getting killed by neuro and change the other to mini gets killed by a mob
prob best not to, "mini killed by neuro" is still neuro taking an action
if mini died to something stupid, like "mini dies to fall damage", then that's mini doing an action and suffering the consequences
Yeah I guess
I did thought about a prompt for vedal joining but I doubt it since mini is baby sitting so he has no need to join and he’s gonna be at fillians stream
vedal's not the intervening type unless something is just not going right at all
like how neuro never hung up with evil that one time
just got out of bed, i can try to stretch a few prompts
i got a few more good prompts for mini, still iffy on the stream prompts, minecraft isnt a good game for stream prompts since almost everything happens because of the player
sometimes you can generalize things
i mean the things that i can think of are never gonna happen like triggering a raid, zombie raid, struck by lightning, etc
i guess i can combine both building prompts to put int he stream prompts
Hey sorry this was a major my bad moment
I wasn’t able to contribute like at all to prompts for today due to life stuff, I should have said something in advance so y’all would have some sort of warning
Im sorry
Okay I added a bunch of prompts but if you could add more Neuro prompts that would be helpful
Oh yeah I forgot about it, I can do that in a bit
@raven thistle thanks for the clarification with that prompt, though it is a little unfortunate given it does apply to a lot of Vtubers LOL
@raven thistle is dev stream gonna just be a standard bingo or are you thinking of doing anything special?
maybe making the turtle colour scheme mandatory for the stream?
the turtle color scheme is a subathon thing, i'd have to manually implement stuff
also
it's been a while since devstream
@lament scarab
@hazy sable
yeah I know thats why I asked
can we have devstream prompts
if I needed to know if special stuff was gonna be used for prompting
like a 6x6 board
standard 5x5
oki
i might switch the color scheme to
for the laughs, but we'll see
kk
@lament scarab
https://nwero.net/
A fun game to play during neuro streams!

also
in the future can you put a little indicator for all the prompts you DONT use
it helps me not make similar ones in the future/im curious
that's when they're crossed out
fuck I am sleep deprived

its so fucking joever
ima be real, i have zero idea of what the next stream even is to come up with any prompts
character ais neuro rizzes them
ok that makes sense now
@lament scarab are prompts finalised?
i'm just gonna assume that they are
actually @lament scarab like 3 of the stream prompts are pretty much pointless
Chatbot based on another vtuber appears
Chatbot based on a fictional character appears
Chatbot based on a celebrity appears
i'm pretty sure, by the title, she's only interacting with AI versions of her friends
those prompts were changed from my original prompts which were just differnt vtubers
so all 3 of those are pointless afaik
stream title in schedule is "Neuro Helps Lucy Rizz Up Her AI Friends"
yeah guess Ill just undo the changes
hold please
well either way there's at least 7 prompts
it's fine you don't have to do anything
Okay done
this is kinda a scuffed bingo list tbh
but its the best I could do I suppose
nah nah nah
I think its good enough
just my personal.. perfectionism? or more like "good-enoughism"
i have to type this up while cerber is streaming cerbathon
do you not have 2 monitors?
i have 2 monitors
but i need BOTH to do bingo prompts
can we induldge my selfishness and speed up on prompt creation so i can have it done by 5pm for next few weeks 
Sure Ill try my best
(you can just say no and all i can say is
okay)
sorry been so busy this week with doctor stuff
next week SHOULD be better
i do have to do it now regardless, can't skip it cos i wanna watch dawg
same with how i moderate, i'm still moderating streams while watching dawg
wait @lament scarab it might be lucy's friends?
did you take that into account?
yes
I did
all the people I chose are Lucys friends
Cotton is the only Im not sure actually
lemme do some checks
pls do 
nvm yeah shes friends with cotton
if you dont mind I can throw in a couple more names
I just skim her VOD channel for collabs
like Filian
actually honestly I got most of them
Maybe just Filian as a throw in
yeah I got them all
her most frequent collab partners are Numi, Bao, Filian and (past tense) the Evil Fox
@raven thistle you should be good to go
@raven thistle you are a code person (respectful)
how feasible do you think #1384156387889909760 is and do you know anybody who might like to help (idk who is a big coder in this server
)
you can just say no tho, no pressure
just you're the person I first thought of to ask
i remember a project that was similar in another community (mlp)
it's feasable @lament scarab
also
next time, ping me directly in the thread, this discussion is off-topic here 
Oh my bad
Idk why I pinged here
@lament scarab @hazy sable you know the drill
fast food themed prompts with Evil
then a collab between cerber and evil for will you press the button
then a dev stream next monday
your task is to find a Neuro/Evil eating a burger fanart for the free space
i have a neuro evil AS a burger

considering disabling chat based prompts for collabs
and starting to reach out to other discords to give them bingo
hmm thinking if theres a way to add prompts for shared chat, but probably not since neuro's chat is always dominant anyways
I can start doing that again if needed
I like joining over vtuber discords anyways so no skin off my back
we can't rely on shared chats always being a thing
share chat
@raven thistle hey boss, you want us to update dev stream prompts?
yes please!

@raven thistle prompts are done (unless @lament scarab wants to add more), keeping in mind that dev streams will be a regular thing again, ive separated vedal's todo list into its own category.
ive also added a few more prompts to neuro and evil's solo streams as well as added a category for their sound effects. ive also completely redone chat prompts with two categories that you can choose to omit or not
I will add more in the morning tommrow if I wake up in time
also the seperation was a great call
thanks
Welp my alarm just woke me up so clearly I failed this task
so uhh
i also napped through configuring it 
quick, before vedal starts stream 
Oh boy yummy yummy
copy > paste > replace zentreya with camila > 
Meta we are so screwed LMAO
just gotta dump a lot of generic prompts since we have no idea what the tier list is gonna be
What is this nwero bingo thing, is this like a list of context prompts for neuro and evil to say stuff or look at during a stream or what is it
its the bingo board posted in #livestream-chat before every stream (usually) for people to fill out for the stream. it has no effect on the stream itself
Oh okay thanks for clarifying 
the link is nwero.net btw
in case you miss the link in livechat somehow
maybe combine zentreya and camila prompts 

so... not only are they not doing a vtuber tier list, zen isnt even in her 3d model 
brooooooooo
i've been distracted by screeps i apologise
not enough prompts to do a bingo today 
:<
ive wrote all i can for this stream, idk anything about the game to be able to write any prompts for (totally didnt forget and now just very sleepy)
is okay!
we obviously just don't know enough about the game to write prompts for it
@hazy sable @lament scarab well need custom prompts for tomorrow i think
i can't fully remember, but i think vedal said something about a merch meeting
if he did, pls work on those prompts
is i gonna be the full stream or just a segment? since the schedule is simply dev stream
@hazy sable @lament scarab lil reminder to finish tonight's prompts!
i looked at the steam page and it didnt really tell me much about the game, so im hoping todays stream will give me ideas
hopefully!
Has the bingo been abandoned?

Abandoned Archived Bingo
if this is dead I found this:
https://dev.streambingo.app/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/1rnixfk/i_made_streambingo_a_tool_to_make_bingo_games/
debating on whether to bring this back or not
if i do i'll most likely build an admin interface for making new sheets
If you do, let me know boss
https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1110199900114780182
Is this the same project? A continuation? Or something different?
it's a separate project from that one
it's migrated from this #1095948590947500113 post --> #1285719769399562291 message


