Game Dev General

[quick cliff]

channel based rate limit

[trail parrot]

frick

[quick cliff]

oh damn I have 10 slots for answers, might as well use them all to deal with multiple questions

let me repull up the jam creation screen

-# let us see, not bothing to do unranked. Voting rights have the options of submitter, submitter + contributers, Judges, and the public. There is a rating que, I think it is cringe to pregenerate a games list as can't advertise , Critera I'd yoink from the offical ones. And upload lock.

[hollow jay]

what are you cooking iggly

[quick cliff]

Checking the itchio game jam creation page

[hollow jay]

ah

[quick cliff]

seeing what to poll about for the unoffical game jam if it happens

[quick cliff]

-# Only way I'd allow public voting is to force them into the "rate random games que" first, there exists an option to exclude submitters but not submitters and contributors

Trying to make a decent poll and I have 10 slots, 3 options for voting (judge option is cringe), 4 timespans (1d 3d 5d 7d), 2 for toggling the upload lock (independent from late submissions), and last one is general interest.

Okay, it has been 10 minutes. Poll, part 2

[hollow jay]

I would help with organizing as well if I knew how to

[quick cliff]

@trail parrot Poll live

[trail parrot]

[quick cliff]

Discord made me think you managed to vote twice

I'm going to wait a few to vote myself

(discord I swear to frick, people are not voting twice)

[vapid trail]

9 votes by 2 people

[quick cliff]

13 here

if I didn't refresh it would have been 17

3 votes

[split yoke]

Orderin an Eliv plush to the winner

[quick cliff]

Man I can already tell I'm going to need to look more into the upload lock. It has pretty much been 50/50 the entire time.

we got plenty of time, so I'll let results flow in first

[split yoke]

Discord does hide voters sometimes

[silver junco]

I mean we could

Idk where the money would come from tho

[tight kestrel]

Discords poll API is a complete mess so this doesn't surprise me

[split yoke]

I'd assume from the ones organizin the jamegam

[silver junco]

Oh no

Thatd be my pocket if no official one happens

[kindred bone]

I don't think it makes sense to have prizes in an unofficial jam.
But if I had to choose, I think art would be good, even if it's programmer art.

[hollow jay]

that's true

[trail parrot]

I can offer my art as part of the prize pool

like, a custom character model

though, the complexity of the model would have to be reasonable since I don't want to spend more than a week on a freebie

except, how would you split that reward with a team lol

[split yoke]

Hydra model, everyone in the team gets a head

If too many people just cut some heads off and add double of that

[silver junco]

Your prize is that you get to help making the prize

Real talk if we do a prize we'll figure something out

[silver junco]

we should probably ask the mods about doing one if there will be no official one btw

[thick totem]

Before we get too involved in an alternative jam, we should probably 100% confirm that

• There will be no game jam this year
• There will be no game jam at a later date (eg. around Evil's birthday)

[silver junco]

@white steeple

keep us informed please

thanks

[kindred bone]

They just get 1 art based on their submitted game (like a fan art), and they don't get to choose what is about.

[trail parrot]

-# i would prefer if they got to choose, since its less mental effort to follow a direction than make my own

[kindred bone]

I don't think that's possible, the mods don't usually know about things that Vedal hasn't decided on yet, the third game jam happening depends on him remembering that he got humilliated last year for submitting a broken game, and that can happen in a random day during the subatton I think.

[kindred bone]

That's sheep mentality, but we could let them decided on 1 asset from their game to be the direction I guess.

[trail parrot]

it's not sheep mentality, it's literally effort to come up with a design

-# also, I wouldn't have to do guesswork

[misty spruce]

Theres another gamejam

[hollow jay]

*maybe another game jam

oh by the way do we need more hands on organizing?

[misty spruce]

I mean, i can participate in the jam if i know where to find it

[quick cliff]

I'll have to do some reading on what itch expects the owners of the jam to do. So far I'm helping and Sam is helping as neither of us can really participate this year.

[hollow jay]

I don't think I have the capacity to participate in jams so I can help if needed

[silver junco]

im waiting for conformation on if there will be a jam to orgenize one

my assumption is, if we do mkae one ourselves, we copy some of last years' rules and such

idk how we'll get the theme tho

[floral barn]

we can ask neuro for a theme

[silver junco]

i mean sure, but how?

[floral barn]

with highlighted message or a dono?

[split yoke]

I shared on another server a while ago and just saw it reappear there

[silver junco]

i guess we have our price money

[quick cliff]

@silver junco had to dip, I'm assuming no offical jam stuff yet (this channel would explode otherwise )

[silver junco]

ye nothing yet

[quick cliff]

The real question is how long to wait

[silver junco]

https://itch.io/jam/412641/preview
welp, its unlisted for now

i need to do the layout and stuff or get someone to do it for me

[quick cliff]

I'm assuming you went through the settings via poll results

[silver junco]

i have mostly copied stuff i remembered form last year

lemme add you as admin actually

also, let me figure this out with the mods too

@white steeple

we're allowed to do this right?

[quick cliff]

unoffical is unoffical, it doesn't seem planned

[silver junco]

as long as we arent doing an official one the plan is to have this instead

[quick cliff]

I guess time for the next of the polls

need to figure out how long to wait for offical and when to start the unoffical one

I'd do both in the same poll similar to options personally, we have 10 options with a 10 minute rate limit

[silver junco]

also, if the real jam want to use the neuro3 url feel free to ping me and ill change this

[quick cliff]

should have done neuro3u

[silver junco]

jam 1 uses https://itch.io/jam/neurosama-birthday-game-jam
jam 2 uses https://itch.io/jam/neuro

[silver junco]

done

[hollow jay]

why neuro3u specifically

[silver junco]

unnoficial

[quick cliff]

I'm editing the jam to repersent poll results

[hollow jay]

ah

do you guys still need help or all good?

[quick cliff]

you did say you wanted to help as well, wouldn't hurt

[hollow jay]

👍

[quick cliff]

I'm sorta vanishing for the next week

[silver junco]

extra help wouldnt be too bad since its in 7 days

[quick cliff]

vacation

[hollow jay]

lemme see if I still have my itch.io account

[quick cliff]

only thing is that submitters and contributers won for voting, makes sense

oh that is what the options is supposed to be, it is just a CSV

[hollow jay]

my itch.io username is ktrain5369 if you want to add me

[quick cliff]

expect link in dms

[silver junco]

i have no idea how formatting for this stuff works so i woudl love to not have to do it myself

[hollow jay]

isn't it just md

[quick cliff]

one of these is a meme, but that is the formatting

[hollow jay]

is that the 4th one

[quick cliff]

yeah 4th is the joke

also the third

[quick cliff]

it isn't md, it is traditonal editor

it contains basically all of MD and HTML, so advanced notes app level

[silver junco]

this is supposed to be unlisted

[quick cliff]

my admin link

[silver junco]

i dont think i should show that link actually

[hollow jay]

time to design a webpage to port to itch.io

[silver junco]

it doenst work when its already used so i think its fine

[quick cliff]

can we iframe

[silver junco]

lemme reupload the image

should be fine

[hollow jay]

probably, lemme see

[silver junco]

embed the twitch stream on the itch page

[hollow jay]

wait it wouldn't make sense because iframes can contain any arbitrary thing that would get loaded

well, lemme see anyways

my iframe tag got nuked

[quick cliff]

I'm stupid I see, let me actually test

[hollow jay]

oh I got it to work

kinda

[quick cliff]

you need to back out of html, peak design

I shouldn't be testing at the same time

let me just go back to the fields

[hollow jay]

Yeah ok I got it to embed the first subathon vod

I'll go embed the actual VoD rq

[quick cliff]

Alright, this is a lot easier now

because we can just iframe decent web design

[silver junco]

oh my days you actually embedded the stream

[hollow jay]

*vod

[silver junco]

hmm

i see, but why?

[hollow jay]

xdx

[quick cliff]

we can use an actual webpage instead of porting to itch

[hollow jay]

I'll embed the stream soon

[silver junco]

we pinged vanor but idk if he is even able to help with thi

maybe we need to ping alex or something

[quick cliff]

mods probably have their hands full with the stream

[silver junco]

true

should we go through modmail?

[quick cliff]

so best to assume we are on our own

I'm not worried on enforcement as it is just a community event

[silver junco]

i want to confirm there wil be no official one before i have people put effort into this jam, and make sure we're allowed to do certain things

[hollow jay]

I've embedded the actual stream but it autoplays so I have to figure out how to disable that

[quick cliff]

Let's get this page somewhat workable, worst case we just do it via word of mouth without a prize pool. I'm the camp of no offical one is planned

we would have been given time

[silver junco]

best place to watch the stream

the prize pool is 10 of my bucks

idk how id send it tho

maybe paypal or something

[quick cliff]

Once we are sorta finished with the page, I'll set up another poll to see what everyone thinks on this. Don't want it to be buried and also don't want the entire event not hitting as hard because we never wanted to pull the trigger.

[silver junco]

true

[white steeple]

yeeeeeeeeeeeah i think that's fine

just make sure it stays within this thread for now, ill see if i can get it out

[quick cliff]

Of course I was in the poll editor as this was typed

mod approval

I'll have to ping interested parties later, I am not attempting that on mobile.

not getting messages wiped due to pinging too many people

[tight kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-let-me-out-gif-18252480

[cerulean willow]

dang, so is there no official jam this year? i havent been paying enough attention to be sure but i assume id have heard bout it by now

[hollow jay]

havent heard any info yet afaik

[silver junco]

welp, its the 22nd now and no info on a potential jam

i think we'll have to start workign on the unnoficial one

[misty spruce]

around when does the unofficial one start?

and if possible can i get pinged when it starts?

[silver junco]

we set it up to be on the same dates as last year

https://itch.io/jam/412641/preview

[misty spruce]

if ya dont mind i would like to join

[silver junco]

you can ye

thats the point of this thing

[misty spruce]

i dont remember the dates of last year so just ping me

[silver junco]

does this link not work for you?

its 27th till 30th

[misty spruce]

link no work

[silver junco]

maybe its cuz im admin

[misty spruce]

[silver junco]

December 27th 2025 at 8:00 PM to December 30th 2025 at 8:00 PM
but thats 8pm my time, which is central european winter time

so that time would be 7pm for vedal

[misty spruce]

what time does neuro start her stream for you?

[silver junco]

8pm

on normal days that arent subathon

[misty spruce]

thats 3am for me

i think i can manage

i have work around that time so i dont really sleep during the night

[silver junco]

<t:1766862000:F>
this should work?

ye

[misty spruce]

yup, 3 am

[silver junco]

[misty spruce]

[silver junco]

ill fix up the game jam page today or tomorrow maybe and then ill publish it

[misty spruce]

[quick cliff]

We do need to set up the omega ping without getting automodded. Surely whoever does it won't get muted

[quick cliff]

Sam ignoring poll :classic:

tbf the results are close

[wicked escarp]

or you ask a mod to do it...

[quick cliff]

Nah, they are busy enough as is

[silver junco]

I want to rent a mod

[trail parrot]

who's coming up with the theme?

[misty spruce]

[thick totem]

personally I'd still prefer an early January date, so both the game jam and the rating period is comfortably outside the holidays
but that's just my 2c
I usually spend the end of year with family, so jamming tends to be a bit awkward

[quick cliff]

genius idea, we take suggestions and let the wheel decide

[quick cliff]

from what I can tell, this is the most valid point. A half of people are indifferent on it judging on poll results. So it makes sense to pick something logical.

(the start on 21st and other votes are not real, someone just selected every category)

[silver junco]

hmm

since we're only 5 days away from the current day it would potentially take place, we either have to do some quick orgenizing, or we delay tilla fter holidays

[quick cliff]

we are stalling till 26th anyways to cover most votes

so it is unwise to start on same day without giving prep time, so either the 29th or 2nd. I'd lean to the 2nd to be firmly out of celebration range personally.

at least somewhere in the 2nd-5th

[trail parrot]

in that case, may I suggest || Walking the edge|| as my theme idea?

[silver junco]

Well add it to the wheel i guess

[misty spruce]

theres a wheel?!?!

[silver junco]

Apparently

So for now thats the only thing on the wheel

[misty spruce]

[quick cliff]

As expected, but to cover both popular answers we are going until the 26th

[misty spruce]

wait so we start at 26th?

[quick cliff]

That's how long a majority of people want to wait until we go for unoffical

[misty spruce]

[quick cliff]

good news

we got time

[silver junco]

what's the good news?

[misty spruce]

any updates?

[silver junco]

26th is already today huh

fuuuck

well, its time to start workign on this then

[misty spruce]

ganbatte

[trail parrot]

wait, unofficial game jam is tomorrow?

[floral barn]

yeah, #1336984748882399242 message

[trail parrot]

@silver junco is the jam page up? I can't find it on itch

[silver junco]

Its probably still unlisted

[silver junco]

Thats when we would commit to it

[silver junco]

.

I think that has been a problem with the current communication

This is becoming confusing

Let me just get the page up asap. Give me a couple of hours

[silver junco]

the problem with starting on the same day as we commit to doing this, is that we dont have enough themes for a spint he wheel

[hollow jay]

that doesn't seem like a problem with timing

[silver junco]

we just need people to add more themes to the wheel i guess

https://itch.io/jam/neuro3u

i think its in a state where we can publish it now

ideally we would have our own BG art and stuff cuz idk if they're fine with us copying it

@white steeple could you check if we have permisiion to use the BG art and banner from last jam?

[silver junco]

ill admit i'm not too good at organizing things

[torpid spear]

Do you want to add random themes or themes need to have... well, theme?

[silver junco]

i think randome themes are fine

since the games will be at least somewhat neuro related it will work out

[misty spruce]

thx alot for organizing this dudes

[white steeple]

, i might be too busy for that, i don't remember who did the BG art and banner

[silver junco]

who do i need to bribe? (buy lisence)

[quick cliff]

email with 4 jam joiners

[silver junco]

4 is a decent amount for the first jam i host at least

[wicked escarp]

well.. if someone doesn't check this channel reguraly they probably don't even know it exists

[silver junco]

true

but they asked to keep it in this channel for now

[silver junco]

[misty spruce]

[shrewd stag]

heyo, popping in here to ask, is vedal not doing a game jam this year?

[silver junco]

No

But we're doing an unnoficial one

https://itch.io/jam/neuro3u

[velvet tartan]

Hi guys, I wanted to ask the legality of recreating neuro's tarot card readings into an android app as I wanted to do tarot card readings for myself while she was streaming because theoretically none of the art is done by me and the concept was also plagiarised from her stream. Furthermore, this is my first unity project.

[misty spruce]

something you keep to yourself should be fine but taking the art from artists isnt that good unless you have permission, it gets worse if the app is uploaded to some appstore, best to try getting an artist or becoming one yourself

[silver junco]

since neuro is an ip form vedal you'd have to get his permission

alongside the artsts' persmissons

either that or you'd have to pay for a lisence to use the neuro brand or whatever

[hollow jay]

for the neuro ip you'd probably have to ask vedal via business enquiries

[silver junco]

ye

[misty spruce]

yup neuro is also an ip by vedal, almost forgot since i mainly just make fangames for gamejam

i had to ask captain's (aquwa) perms to be able to make a video game so i was able to make it but right now its still in development hell

[silver junco]

[misty spruce]

so yeah, get perms first from all connections

[hollow jay]

dev hell :classic:

[silver junco]

[misty spruce]

[velvet tartan]

Thanks guys

[silver junco]

np

[misty spruce]

[quick cliff]

Whoops I JPEGed the model

-# Some hair was also lost in compression (real)

[silver junco]

my hair

🙏 maybe use the latest version of the model, it looks way better

[misty spruce]

Happy New Years

[kindred bone]

Happy New Year, I wish for everyone to make great games this year as well.

[quick cliff]

Happy New Years

-# I'm going to pretend I didn't send this early

[silver junco]

4 hours left for me

But happy newyear

[misty spruce]

Happy new years!

[cerulean willow]

have a few new sprites to add to the collection since last year :3 artist has decided to upsize them a bit so ill have to rescale them to fit for now i guess

but here they are~

[quick cliff]

the jam is tomorrow

Because we have a singular wheel option from the chat, I'll have to come up with a few others.
-# This is where you ping me with other ideas, make sure to censor them with || on each side

Join the jam
https://itch.io/jam/neuro3u

[silver junco]

holy fuck we have 18 participants

[quick cliff]

@silver junco I might overeep so I'm making the wheel in advance and sending it to you

[silver junco]

um

yuo know i sleep at roughly the same time as you right?

[quick cliff]

Anyways wheel

send ideas so I don't have to think of at least 7 others

[silver junco]

uh

im the least creative person i know

[quick cliff]

Gotta wait for chat to revive

[silver junco]

@gamedevgeneral

[wicked escarp]

wait i thought it was starting on the 6th for somereason.

[silver junco]

we have made the start date probably the most confusing part of this

[quick cliff]

That is entirely on me blame @quick cliff

[hollow jay]

ask vanor if it can be broadcasted

[quick cliff]

@silver junco

[silver junco]

@white steeple

[trail parrot]

||Full Circle
A spark of inspiration
Sonder
Derealization
Epilogues
False Limits
Make it count
To be continued
Pass it on
In the far future...
If a tree falls in an empty forest...
The question.
The art of uncertainty
Run it back!
Paradox
Here and There
Paradigm Shift||, I came up with a bunch of ideas

feel free to veto the ones you don't like

[silver junco]

oh

iggly is asleep

@quick cliff

[trail parrot]

game jam in 4 hrs btw

@quick cliff might want to do some prep work

[quick cliff]

I tried to get up earlier but body said no

[trail parrot]

it's ok

[quick cliff]

Itch, now is not the time to be down

:SAVED:

[silver junco]

[quick cliff]

I'd really like to see joiners so I can ping for wheel

but I ain't seeing it

[silver junco]

You can see them in the jam itself

But some of them are different names to their discord

[trail parrot]

yea

my itch account is "Purab"

[quick cliff]

I wanted to not go off of the original interest poll in case of dropouts and late joiners but I don't think I have a choice

If I blindly followed that I'd miss lusk after all

[trail parrot]

true

[quick cliff]

16 orginally, 20 now

so some late joiners

[silver junco]

Do based on both maybe

[trail parrot]

can we just @ here xdx

[silver junco]

Oh

Maybe

[trail parrot]

someone ping a mod and get their blessing

[quick cliff]

no but even so that is only if client is online IIRC

[silver junco]

Oh

[quick cliff]

not sure how it works with threads

[silver junco]

I geuss justget the jam list and the poll list?

[quick cliff]

I still can't find the jam list

[silver junco]

Edit jam

[quick cliff]

As soon as I said it

[silver junco]

And the there's a participants section

[trail parrot]

I wish there were more joiners ngl, but since we didn't do any advertising I guess it's natural all of 20 people know about it

[quick cliff]

We were forbidden from such

[trail parrot]

[quick cliff]

I thought this was going to be more helpful tbh

[trail parrot]

itch usernames not aligned with discord usernames?

[quick cliff]

like only 2 or 3

[trail parrot]

XD

[quick cliff]

Let me draft the omega ping, I'll just be endlessly typing rq

[wicked escarp]

i mean 10% of how many there were last time is still a decent chunk i guess... assuming everyone actually submits something. i didn't know this thread existed for a long long time

would a new thread in #1336777692070023271 be allowed? i mean surely people would see it if its a new thread instead of a topic in here...

[quick cliff]

It is neuro related so I guess, as long as everyone is wiling to move over for the event

I guess that makes the ping useful

eitherwat I can only half bake it currently as in order to copy text a ping I need to actually send it

unless I want to build the ping from user ids

[wicked escarp]

idk how useful a new thread at this point would be. the thread should have been made like a week ago to gather more people. just tossing out ideas

[quick cliff]

[trail parrot]

even a single extra participant is like. 5% bigger event

[quick cliff]

at the very least once it is over it'd be nice to have all of them together

and not inside this channel as we move back to normal stuff

[silver junco]

i didnt think of it

[quick cliff]

I still need to wheel

[silver junco]

but we probably should have done a project thingy

[quick cliff]

I spent all the time on ping

[trail parrot]

do it now?

[wicked escarp]

still have 8 minutes to do it

[trail parrot]

yeah XD

speedrun time

[wicked escarp]

could also increase the time to a week for the jam instead of 3 days to account for this

[trail parrot]

true

[quick cliff]

yeeted into the wheel

let me find a VC for the wheel

@silver junco I'll dm you ping list, can you handle the project thread?

[silver junco]

uh

okay

[quick cliff]

I need to set up for streaming the wheel

@silver junco get in the vc

[silver junco]

the theme is paradox

[quick cliff]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1456723201752039505 Jump over to the thread

[storm night]

True.

Yeah, I'll let Genshin Impact install before doing anything else.

So close to install after half a day.

[vapid trail]

I was literally away from my computer for the entire duration of the jam. So instead I did a little bit of work on making my godot art program work on my phone

[misty spruce]

[vapid trail]

Using godot on my phone is a bit silly

[quick cliff]

This reminds me of the krita mobile app, also cursed

Literally just the desktop UI

[golden abyss]

This is the gamedev equivalent of blowing a kiss to god as you moonwalk into hell. I respect you

[vapid trail]

It barely usable in its current state, sometimes the undos break the entire script and you have to reload to get it back and lose the progress you made... at least in 4.6 you will be able to hide the debugger supposedly.

[quick cliff]

I wonder if it'd behave better with trying to hit Ctrl-Z? I still daily drive hacker's keyboard because it has a functional ctrl key

[silver junco]

welp

ive sent the tutel an email regarding the game-jams

[rancid smelt]

I'm brand new to unity development

working on a project and I wanna add a melee attack of some kind

was going to just use a collider (or many) to make a weapon hit area which would detect the presence of an enemy when the player attacks

I thought I'd ask if there's a better way to do this though, or if there's any considerations to be made here

[ivory lodge]

iirc unity has collision objects called triggers? I believe that's what you want to be using but I haven't used unity in ages so someone else would probably be more of a help

depending on your specific use case you could also get away with raycasts, but otherwise as simple of a collision shape as possible is usually the way to go

just manage your collision layers well, and you usually want to inflate player attack hitboxes just a little so they feel more responsive,,

but again, someone who uses unity will be more helpful with the specifics!!

[golden abyss]

Parent the box trigger/collision to the damaging part of the weapon mesh, key frame the points you want to be able to damage things and tie them to a boolean on collision checks, make sure it cant collide with the same target multiple times, and make sure it cant collide with the player

[undone karma]

There's a lot of ways to do this but as brine said I think the best way is to use a collider, then select "trigger" on it so it works as a hitbox and when you're attacking, check if there's an enemy currently colliding in the moment of attack
And then you can add some other stuff like pushing the enemy back and dealing damage and whatnot on hit

Also I made a silly lil' devlog about my game which started in the Neuro jam last year xdd (neur and tutel mentioned too)
https://youtu.be/0OD4qbcK0bg

[rancid smelt]

yeah this was kinda the plan, and it seemed reasonable, I'm just not sure about the unity specifics of which components to use, how to lay them out etc

[undone karma]

You'll learn it over time and you can always improve it as you get better, but usually just doing a box collider for 3D or box collider 2D for 2D stuff works fine

[rancid smelt]

something I'm wondering about in particular right now is different weapon types

they will almost certainly have different collider shapes or sizes

does it make sense to have every weapon collider always on every character and then just use the one I need

or should I be dynamically adding/removing them when weapons are equipped for some kind of performance gain

[undone karma]

That can work - you can create a gameobject structure in the heirarchy where a characterWeapons transform holding all the weapons as children is a prefab and a child element to the character itself for example (and then you can have the same prefab on each character)
Alternatively you can Instantiate (spawn) the specific model for the current weapon type with its colliders.
This stuff shouldn't majorly affect performance too much unless you have a ton of weapons / tons of characters / spawning stuff constantly. Overall don't think about performance as a beginner, I suggest you run head first into a wall and when stuff becomes slow you learn about performance and optimization xd

[rancid smelt]

yeah that seems like the right approach

[undone karma]

Like this kinda thing

Anyway you got this

[ivory lodge]

go shiro!!!

evilCheer

[rancid smelt]

🥲

how can two colliders, which can collide and are intersecting, not collide

[silver junco]

I dont think he reads his emails that often

[kindred bone]

He is on vacation, I don't think he will be reading any emails any time soon.
Previous neuro game jams were co hosted by Alexvoid, I wonder if he has anything to say about this.

[primal eagle]

anything to say about what?

can someone fill me in?

[silver junco]

we want to do community game-jams since ved didnt do an official one this year

due to promotion rules we havent been advertising it

due to that we got some people that were disappointed they were late

so ive been trying to find a way we're allowed to advertise it to the wider neuro community while not breaking any rules and stuff

[primal eagle]

oh that's a discord server question, you should ask the discord moderators (#contact-mods)

[silver junco]

okay

[kindred bone]

[golden abyss]

five hours of work, pls kill me

[quick cliff]

I just so happened to be listening to ultrakill ost while looking over here

[golden abyss]

ULTRAKILL is a big inspiration for NERE anyhow

[quick cliff]

I didn't want to assume, but the signs were there

tbf I'd also want to make movement that smooth

[golden abyss]

you should look at the stuff I have posted in NERE's project thread, movement is smooth as butter (may need to touch up wallrunning though).

[quick cliff]

[golden abyss]

grapples can act as a pendulum, pull you to a target, or fling objects and certain enemies towards yourself

[rancid smelt]

any tips on unity build pipelines failing?

not getting much in the way of useful debug info

[pine mortar]

maybe restart unity editor? when i was making games in unity few years ago, you could look at editor wrong and it would fail/crash lol

[undone karma]

You can write a script to catch any errors that are posted into the editor while you're building

But often they can happen if you have a class that has using UnityEditor outside the Editor folder for example

Idk if you solved it by now xdd but hope it helps

[rancid smelt]

is there anything I need to know about spawning? for some reason I cannot comprehend, something I'm spawning will occasionally not render its sprite

the sprite is set according to the inspector, and the component is enabled, yet it's entirely invisible

I've tried reenabling the component, changing the draw order, etc. but nothing seems to resolve the issue

it also happens inconsistently

[rancid smelt]

as an addendum to the above, I thought it'd be useful to mention that the sprite will show in about 10% of spawns and be invisible for the remaining 90%

and I have only seen it show successfully when the spawn was called from Update, never from FixedUpdate or LateUpdate

that doesn't mean it can't show when called from those functions given the apparent probabilistic nature of the issue, but it might give a starting point for debugging

[kindred bone]

I don't use unity that much but that sounds like a timing issue.
I would try to set the sprite every step, to see what happens.

[rancid smelt]

the sprite is set though unless the inspector is lying

I've even tried changing the sprite to something else in the inspector while the game is running

to no avail

[silver junco]

[vapid trail]

Since I don't really use Unity, all I can really recommend is to follow a tutorial and see if you run into the same issue. If you don't you might be able to see where you went wrong.

[rancid smelt]

ok i fixed that issue the cause was really stupid

but the same build issues from before persist

the error message is pretty scary so i dont really know what to make of it

zzzUnity.Burst.CodeGen.BurstILPostProcessor: ILPostProcessor has thrown an exception: System.InvalidOperationException: Internal compiler error for Burst ILPostProcessor on Assembly-CSharp. Exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

[vapid trail]

Me when you paste the least scary looking error msg after you say this. since I don’t know where in your code this error is coming from I can’t really you help that much. but that last part to the error message is telling you the what the problem is, you are trying to get data from something that is (at the time of requesting this data) a null object because it hasn’t been given an instance and therefore doesn’t have any data.

[rancid smelt]

it's not me doing the null dereference

it's the compiler

regardless i solved it with some help

a unity plugin from 2018 had a bad directory structure

[vapid trail]

[rancid smelt]

bricked the entire build pipeline by not putting a scriptable object in an Editor folder

[vapid trail]

This is why godot is better

-# I’m way to eepy

[vapid trail]

Ive made it more manageable for myself at least

[quick cliff]

[vapid trail]

Surely some of these are easy to add while on my phone.

[quick cliff]

Anything is possible as long as sanity is not a factor

[vapid trail]

I added the layer dragging(to replace the layer swapping that I removed). It will probably break completely if/when I add layer groups

It also showed me how much I need to update my palette ui, as it has basically the same features but the way I update the ui is quite different.(and also I discovered a new container type that I should have been using)

[vapid trail]

Exporting drawings is also done, I think. Going between my file system and Godot sometimes causes Godot to refresh and by extension close the art program and the file is not actually saved. However Im pretty sure this is only an issue because I’m on my phone, and it would probably be fixed if the program was actually exported outside of godot.

[vapid trail]

Surely this is the easy way to add drawing groups and layer groups

[vapid trail]

, the drawing group ui.

Surely I can just use the tree ui node for testing the drawing groups for now. Or I have to find a way to try and have it look nice by adding or removing children from the grid container of drawings based on if a branch is opened or not.

[kindred bone]

Removing children is always good.

[vapid trail]

I have it to the point where the base system is working and I have drawing groups. I now just have to figure out how to move my drawings around nicely to make new groups/add or remove drawings from a group. Easy

[silver junco]

its been a while since ive seen shiro do unity stuff

[vapid trail]

It is in fact not easy(I almost have the drag and drop to create a new group)

[silver junco]

its nearly been 2 months since the first image

the hair still looks a bit eh

idk how to fix it

[kindred bone]

The model improved a lot.

[vapid trail]

Im finally back to my computer. Most normal Git commit.

Surely now that I'm on my computer I can bug fix and make a clean implementation of drawing groups.

[vapid trail]

I was able to implement it, now the next thing I should work on is having the data not all be saved on a single file(if it crashes while saving I lose all the drawings I made ).

[pine mortar]

it does feel nice when you optimise your game and it doesn't regularly drop from 165 FPS to below 80 FPS anymore

[tight kestrel]

there are 2 types of git commits:

• change value from 1.1 to 1.09
• added 32 classes, 4203 LoC and 263 functions

[vapid trail]

Real, I try to do a commit everytime I change how something works so it feels like im actually doing something, but I cant make commits while im working on my phone

[silver junco]

Evil Neuro celebrates her birthday on March 25

no promises

1 month left

[hollow jay]

no promises on what

[pine mortar]

yipee, after failing to submit my projects to the last two jams i joined, I finally made another game for brackeys gamejam

https://grimodello.itch.io/dimensional-grocery-hunt

[vapid trail]

The drawings are no longer a single file, I also dont store the image in the file like 4 different times anymore (can someone explain why storing an 8k by 11k image in a resource file takes 512mb but storing it as a png is 31mb) anyways I store them as a folder of pngs now

[quick cliff]

quickest answer without technical stuff, different compression methods. 512mb is pretty close to completely uncompressed so it can just load in. PNG is a compressed form, so it doesn't have to store as much.
-# 512mb is about the amount it'll be in RAM, regardless of the compression method on the file. Something to keep in mind.

[vapid trail]

I mean I figured on that last part considering how sad my phone gets when trying to open that image in the art program.

Though I wonder how the photos app can handle it (I know it doesnt load the entire image at once but idk how I would implement something like that in godot for the art program)

[quick cliff]

Have a similarly sized image on hand, looks like LoD

takes awhile as it has one layer of detail then has to scan again once you zoom in.

[silver junco]

yep, its cancelled

wasnt even announced yet, but we're already cancelling it

i do see a potential promising future for the main event

[hollow jay]

I'm assuming you didn't get an email back

[silver junco]

Not any emails no

But i have been in contact with the mods

[hollow jay]

oh

and I assume it was shot down?

[hardy bone]

hi, just wondering if anyone is interested in working on neuratro mod for balatro

we need programmers

[silver junco]

its too soon

[hollow jay]

damn

[silver junco]

idk how much i should say since plans can and will change, but there is potential for the 4th one

[hollow jay]

wdym 4th one? is that dec 19th this year?

[silver junco]

ye

except that we might do it in january since last time a lot of people were busy with the holidays

[hollow jay]

yeah fair enough

[silver junco]

or maybe we will do it earlier, ill have to see what the people want

[hollow jay]

honestly early jan might be the best bet

[silver junco]

[vapid trail]

Surely These Brush Icons are understandable enough (I decided to tackle that part of the ui)

[vapid trail]

Definitely what I was trying to achieve.

[pine mortar]

my gamejam game placed in top 100 (out of 1431) and second in theme category

if i had one more rating i would have been #1 but oh well

[vital fable]

Been working on a Neuro game Started setting up integration today, it was surprisingly painless

It's kinda like a turn-based card-based platformer, sort of HK meets StS

[silver junco]

[hollow jay]

[vapid trail]

[quick cliff]

[vapid trail]

Im finally working on this kind of feature.

[vapid trail]

[pine mortar]

[kindred bone]

How's everything going? Anyone released a new game or something?