Modern Neuro Video Essay - Any help or idea is appreciated

[tropic canyon]

Swarm, I have a preposition. This is an entire essay, but PLEASE hear me out.
I saw something in the comments of a reaction video today (call it slop if you want idc), and it made me realize that literally no one has made an overall history of neuro-sama since N3rdiness did back in May of 2023.

By all accounts, this is an amazing video. The problem is that it's outdated. When people try to find something like an introduction to Neuro, the first thing they find is an account of what Neuro was nearly 2 years ago. Since then, as you all know, she has progressed SO FAR. You'd think that someone, anyone, would make another full documentation of neuro's progress over the past few years. You'd really think so.

So here is my proposal. I decided that I will try to make a full 1+ hour documentary on neuro's full progress, from the osu days to the recent subathon, and maybe more if it takes like 5 months to make (which it probably will.) The reason I'm saying all this here instead of just making the video is that I don't think I can do it alone. I've never done a video like this before, and certainly not on this scale. With my editing skills, I don't think I could do the project justice myself in less than a year. The only relevant things I'm good at are scriptwriting and voice work, and that doesn't cut it.

Swarm, I need some volunteers. I will credit anyone who works on it within the video itself but I'm unable to do much else in my current situation.

I'll definitely need at least one editor and maybe more on standby for when the script is eventually finished, and I need a few longtime Neuro enjoyers to help me do research and make sure I don't miss anything or accidentally spread misinformation.
I also would like to maybe have an interview with vedal at some point but that's a lot less reasonable and not entirely necessary.

Updates
SCRIPT HAS STARTED (still need editor for when it's done) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hCf2fV6blUCa4nwn3BN4hSMwBPfyY_7xHX7-zHK4ZA0

Note: I will do anything I can to make the editing workload easier, even if I'm bad at it myself.

[mild mica]

What do you need help in gathering? I don't edit too often but I can help with that too along with collecting video stuff

[tropic canyon]

That's still helpful. I'll probably forget to include or just entirely be unaware of events, major pieces of lore, or upgrades, especially from before early 2024. Even with the developments I am familiar with, having an extra hand to actually find the exact clips or sources saves a lot of time.

[mild mica]

👍

[mild mica]

we should probably "continue on" from n3rdiness's video so we don't repeat ourselves btw

[spare tangle]

Hi, if you still need help I can help you with the cutting, I'm not a pro at cutting either but I can do a few things like small graphics and overlays

[lost rain]

I feel like the history section of the vtuber wiki page can help https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Neuro-sama#History

it has links to sources too

[mild mica]

yea

[worn wave]

“if there’s gonna be a video essay it should be structured like:

• what is Neuro and what does she do
• why people like Neuro
• history of Neuro
• who is Vedal and how he effects streams
• why a human cant provide the Neuro experience”

[mild mica]

I think that structure works well but the last one should be changed more to "why Neuro is unique to any other AI/human streamer"

[worn wave]

that’s probably better

also i don’t think it’s realistic (or good) to go for a 1 hour essay, it might be better to aim for 30-40 minutes which is still long but removes some possible fluff

[mild mica]

I think we should make a script first

before we decide on length

that way it kind of gets us most of the way there

[worn wave]

it might be better in our favor to swap “why people like Neuro” and “history of Neuro” (assuming we use that structure) so we can transition between “why people like Neuro” and the Vedal section

we also need to figure out what things we’re putting as history

[mild mica]

yea

[worn wave]

the best things we should put are:

• V2 debut
• Evil introduction (keep it brief)
• V3 singing voice
• experimental intelligence upgrade #1
• subathon
• intelligence upgrade #2
• loosened filters
• iteration 18 (or 19 if we’re being specific)
• V3 debut
• subathon 2

then we can wrap it up by covering the possible/near future like: Neurodog, concert, and automation.

[mild mica]

hm

so wait are we still "continuing off" from n3rdiness' video?

[worn wave]

i was assuming we’d do our own version of the stuff he covered

[mild mica]

he pretty much only covered v1

[worn wave]

i was thinking we: recover what N3rdiness covered -> new stuff i listed

[mild mica]

ok so let's split the script into 2 parts

[worn wave]

i also don’t think we should include much Evil history and that we should keep collab partner stuff to the Vedal segment (since they mostly came from him)

[mild mica]

the recap from old vid -> new stuff as mentioned above

[worn wave]

yeah

[mild mica]

we should really put it into some document

[worn wave]

probably

honestly when i talk about collab partners i mean those like cerber, toma, layna, and ellie (not really a collab partner but important)

since dougdoug’s big it might be worth mentioning him

[mild mica]

maybe

[worn wave]

and teletric

[mild mica]

how should I split it?

[worn wave]

yeah this basically

[opal obsidian]

Will this also go over the fandom that evolved around her or just Neuro herself

Also what about Evil

[sleek jacinth]

i just read that the plan is to do a 1 hour video but i think thats a bad idea since i saw a lot of people passing by long videos reactors and non

[opal obsidian]

That's not true, essay videos have their popularity

[worn wave]

i think that beyond going “yeah Evil exists” we shouldn’t focus on her much, i’d also assume we just focus on Neuro

[mild mica]

I've set up the document with literally just everything here as commenter perms, here we go

[opal obsidian]

Ok

Makes it simpler

[sleek jacinth]

not every one is going to watch one in one sitting tough maybe like making a part 1 and part 2 will incentivize watching in more sitting so gaining a bit of attraction to those who dont watch long videos normally

[worn wave]

no people are definitely fine with watching a longer video

spliting it into two parts also just seems unnecessary

[tropic canyon]

Hi

I see you guys had a lot of ideas

[sleek jacinth]

maybe you are right

[tropic canyon]

What I was gonna do is to mention n3rdiness's video, do a basic overview of what he went over, maybe 3-5 minutes, and then go on to what happened since then

[worn wave]

that seems good

[tropic canyon]

The script structure is good

I think I'll make my own though, because this is going to be mostly my video.

The commenter setup is also a good idea

I'm aware of the concern of making a video "too long" for people to watch but unless it's like 3 hours people will watch it. This is the swarm we're talking about.

[mild mica]

if you can provide a script then we can work out the kinks and all that

[sleek jacinth]

i think the video should be also for tourist and trying to catch them just making it for the swarm wouldnt bring anything new

[tropic canyon]

That's what I was going to do

[mild mica]

👍

[tropic canyon]

True

Maybe edit it down later for an introductory 20 minute version with less depth

Release both at the same time

There's an audience for either one

[worn wave]

Intro
what is Neuro and what does she do

Part 1
N3rdiness recap

Part 2

• V2 debut
• Evil introduction (keep it brief)
• V3 singing voice
• experimental intelligence upgrade #1
• subathon
• intelligence upgrade #2
• loosened filters
• iteration 18 (or 19 if we’re being specific)
• V3 debut
• subathon 2

Part 3
then we can wrap it up by covering the possible/near future like: Neurodog, concert, and automation.

Why Do People Like Neuro

• many reasons
  Who is Vedal and how does he effect streams
• who is Vedal
• Vedal’s first appearance
• how Vedal manages the channel
• Vedal’s increased channel importance
• how Vedal elevated smaller vtuber/befriended them
• Staz
• Vedal making friends and growing closer to Neuro
  Why the Neuro experience is unique

this is basically how i think we should structure the video

[tropic canyon]

I like to keep things more chronological personally

[worn wave]

that should be included in the subathon part

[sleek jacinth]

what if the structure starts with simple blocks and then the video builds on top of those so its not too overwhelming saying too much at once would make people just forgetting everything i think

[tropic canyon]

I plan to go over pretty much everything of any significance at all, even if briefly

[tropic canyon]

For sure

[worn wave]

we can just leave it to the first 4 parts: intro, parts 1-3

[tropic canyon]

Ye

[sleek jacinth]

what do you consider of significance?

[tropic canyon]

When I have more time, I'll make a bigger list

[worn wave]

the other stuff would be good to give people better perspective though

[tropic canyon]

I will start script work when I get home in ~11 hours. Feel free to leave your ideas here while I'm gone.

[hollow wadi]

YES PLEASE MAKE THIS I'VE BEEN THINKING THE SAME THING FOR SO LONG "Why isn't there any full documentary about her??!"

this is much needed, i commend the efforts

🫡

[tropic canyon]

Btw this does not happen without at least one good editor

[opal obsidian]

Have u tried Fiverr

[tropic canyon]

Good idea. I will try that if I don't find one here.

[tropic canyon]

Starting work on the script rn https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hCf2fV6blUCa4nwn3BN4hSMwBPfyY_7xHX7-zHK4ZA0/edit?usp=sharing

feel free to suggest things if you want

when the organizing part is done i'll need some help with getting exact dates, finding clips, fact-checking, etc

[normal dagger]

The swarm will help with that

[tropic canyon]

yo

[normal dagger]

we are the most dedicated fanbase BY FAR

[tropic canyon]

glad to see you here

[normal dagger]

And maybe a little psycho sometimes

[tropic canyon]

is it possible to pin this

idk

[tropic canyon]

hold on chat nvm i gotta eat

sometimes the limits of mortality are insufferable

[shy osprey]

least*

[normal dagger]

Fym least

We gave a god damn ai the hype train wr because anny said so

[shy osprey]

bro doesnt know

[normal dagger]

yk what being sarcastic is?

[shy osprey]

didnt realise it, but okay

[tropic canyon]

back

starting scriptwork for real this time

[obsidian wyvern]

Msg so I’m in this for later pog!

[tropic canyon]

Modern Neuro Video Essay (any help or idea is appreciated)

Modern Neuro Video Essay - Any help or idea is appreciated (ESPECIALLY EDITING)

script access has been updated to commenter'

[tropic canyon]

chat what do i call section 4

[normal dagger]

No clue

[tropic canyon]

first half of 2024

[normal dagger]

How many sections do you WANT to have

[tropic canyon]

the section after will be the second half up to the subathon named the golden age of neuro or something along those lines

[normal dagger]

Lol

[tropic canyon]

and then there will be another of the subathon. it was just that crazy

[normal dagger]

Dude

Neuro got on news sites from that subathon

[tropic canyon]

and one either before or after that subathon about the shenanigans of the swarm

and the vedalverse

[reef oak]

any idea how splitting up editing will work? i can volunteer for some but schools school

[tropic canyon]

we'll get there when we get there

different people can edit different parts of the video or smth

someone else can put it together and polish it

[reef oak]

ok ill throw my name in the hat for apart of that depending on when it is then

[tropic canyon]

can you also throw a name in a different hat of what I should name section 4 of this script

[reef oak]

uhhh is this like a chapter about the future or her friends or something?

[tropic canyon]

first half of 2024

[reef oak]

Just like notable moments in 2024?

[tropic canyon]

a decently detailed overview of the whole half of that year

[reef oak]

2024 overview might be a good working chapter name

[tropic canyon]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hCf2fV6blUCa4nwn3BN4hSMwBPfyY_7xHX7-zHK4ZA0/edit?tab=t.0

[tropic canyon]

it doesn't matter i'll find one later

[worn wave]

when you finish coming up with the structure i can provide some history, the Vedal stuff might need to be from someone else but i know almost everything about Neuro and Evil

can also give some perspective as a Hiyori era fan

[tropic canyon]

i'll be asking a lot of questions during the writing process fs

having someone like you on the project is a big help

[lunar bluff]

I was thinking the exact same a few weeks ago when I saw those reaction vids, I was open someone would have made a 2024 recap before the subathon, but no lol.

I had a few ideas that I'm trying to remember now.

I think it was mostly her music in the background with, it would have started with pieces of that video.
I had an idea for how it ended but I can't remember.
I think I thought something like the DDLC song while credits roll.

[lunar bluff]

Posting these just for reference:
https://youtu.be/Ruz3S26NmOE?si=AmzIaAV_kFs_MqUB
https://youtu.be/RCblev4hHfM?si=ai36w4CDYaRH7C1u
https://youtu.be/C3kvVLUUoMo?si=DU6tBXGqHRoXTUha
https://youtu.be/o-ZEjr9J1Es?si=6BIUfjABUHbOgbGz

[sleek jacinth]

i feel like the video should talk about some achievements later on defenitly the twitch record on the golden age i think you should start to feel some empathy to neuro before saying what she did

[sleek jacinth]

you have to ask a mod to pin stuff when ill see one in chat ill ask them

[lunar bluff]

When I understood the weakness of my flesh...

[tropic canyon]

Oh definitely

[tropic canyon]

👍

[tropic canyon]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hCf2fV6blUCa4nwn3BN4hSMwBPfyY_7xHX7-zHK4ZA0/edit?tab=t.0 first draft of chapters and segments finished

[tropic canyon]

Any thoughts on the script structure so far? What did I miss?

And should I reorder anything

[worn wave]

i think it’s fine but also there’s some stuff i’m questioning mainly whether or not it’d be better to keep it chronological (as it seems to be here) or whether to keep the achievements chronological but other information to dedicated segments, also the first subathon seems to be missing

[tropic canyon]

The first subathon will be a section rather than a chapter

Most of it will be chronological, but certain aspects like the "Swarm and the Vedalverse" chapter will be it's own order

It'll be chronological within itself but not spread across the rest of the video

[worn wave]

honestly if that’s the case i think it would be better to combine the subathon with “the golden age of Neurosama”, also regarding the Vedal stuff Alex’s part should be moved with the other collab partners

the voice segment should also probably be removed beyond a passing mention, voice stuff starts during Hiyori era so it might derail the video a bit to go in depth about it

there were also two distinct intelligence upgrades, the first one was an experimental that was used during the subathon and revealed to us a dev stream before and the second one was the version we ended up getting after the break

should probably also mention the streamer awards nominations since they’re pretty big

[grizzled pivot]

I have had the same thoughts as you that the video essays on her are outdated, I commend you and whomever aid you in stepping up to make one.

[tropic canyon]

Thanks

[sleek jacinth]

i think you should add a talking point for people like asmon gold during fast rise or ban where they came and showed her and ware really important for her growth also neuro soda a clipper which became an important clipper fairly recently but its really important for the community

also i would mention ironmouse canvas bao and filian since they are big streamers and have appeared a few times

[tropic canyon]

Of course

[gritty reef]

You have unlocked new role

[tropic canyon]

Update: we have a decent editor now

This video is now way more likely to be finished

[grizzled pivot]

Will you be doing the narration?

[tropic canyon]

Yes

[grizzled pivot]

As for the interview with Vedal, there's no harm in asking him, he's done a few.

[tropic canyon]

I was just gonna wait until it was further along

[grizzled pivot]

That is what I'd reccomend too.

[tropic canyon]

if anyone wants to do a thumbnail that would be cool

[worn wave]

did you get some of the things i said in the thread?

[tropic canyon]

Yep

Reread it just now

[pulsar spoke]

i know i know little with photoshop if you want and have idea

[tropic canyon]

Go for it

[pulsar spoke]

do you have idea for the thumbnail

[tropic canyon]

i haven't come up with anything at this point. just do whatever you think is best for a thumbnail for a video of the full history of neuro-sama.

[pulsar spoke]

i dont really have idea

I add some point on the google doc

[pulsar spoke]

for the present the vision of neuro we can use this segment of this video https://youtu.be/aWJXdgnhWbA?t=355

5:55 time code

[tropic canyon]

Sure

[worn wave]

this is pretty old, it’s better to use the irl segments maybe even have the new vision test that Vedal did during the subathon?

the vision during the giri collab was kinda weird ehh during active motion

oh wait you guys are talking about thumbnail

[grizzled pivot]

You had it right the first time.

[worn wave]

[tropic canyon]

Both

[worn wave]

why do i and monster came out in 2023

[tropic canyon]

Wait when did Neuro do a cover with will stetson

What did I miss

[pulsar spoke]

oh ok thanks

[tropic canyon]

I was gonna include monster

[worn wave]

why do i is the will stetson one

[tropic canyon]

Ye il

ik

I just looked it up

[worn wave]

rather than putting all the songs in one segment it’s better to spread them accordingly since it’s mostly chronological

[tropic canyon]

I was going to do that as well

[pulsar spoke]

i just put all official cover where neuro or evil sing with a human

chinatown blue is the exception

[worn wave]

if you guys are still gonna talk about the voice stuff you guys can use this for reference since it has stream appearances and links: https://www.reddit.com/r/NeuroSama/s/p6LUEWts9F

i also did some writing about Evil’s origins but i could do some more elaborating since there’s stuff i didn’t mention

[pulsar spoke]

so long

but its very nice and great informations to use

[pulsar spoke]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hCf2fV6blUCa4nwn3BN4hSMwBPfyY_7xHX7-zHK4ZA0/edit?tab=t.0
this is the plan for new member of the tread

[normal dagger]

LMAO

[tropic canyon]

intro is done

[pulsar spoke]

ok ok

i like your intro by the way

[tacit knot]

just popping into here to say its probably best that if you cover the ban to not go into specifics

[tropic canyon]

tos or smth?

[pulsar spoke]

you see my message lol

[tacit knot]

more like its something better worth forgetting about
its something we would rather not brought up in the discord. I don't speak for vedal though, especially for stuff outside the discord.

for INSIDE the discord, it most certainly DOES break our rules. Making more than a passing mention or going into detail can bring a lot of negative attention to neuro.

Its something i think we all want to avoid

[tropic canyon]

it'll be 15-30 seconds of the video at the most anyway

[tacit knot]

I would requestyou do not mention the real reason, and instead go with the stated reason from twitch

if you must

[tropic canyon]

btw can you pin this

[tropic canyon]

sure

[pulsar spoke]

[pulsar spoke]

for the a fast rise can be after the ban because the ban help for the rise because a "bad" advertising still a advertising

[outer eagle]

neuroWaveA

[pulsar spoke]

hello

[tropic canyon]

Hi

[tropic canyon]

If you're a graphic designer, can you make the thumbnail for the video?

[outer eagle]

yeah ofc, when are you guys planning to upload it?

[pulsar spoke]

when we have finish so i think a month and more

[outer eagle]

okie dokie

[pulsar spoke]

how you become a vip

[lost rain]

theyre neuros official graphic designer, they made the stream background and stuff like the subathon goals list image. among other things im sure but im not too educated on it

[pulsar spoke]

ok they help vedal

[lost rain]

having ffrequence on the project is a big deal

[tropic canyon]

Oh fr?

Dang, that's crazy

This video is gonna be peak if all of these actually qualified people keep signing up

[lost rain]

yeah im looking into it, they also made neuros vtuber logo and all of neuros thumbnails, and the stream schedule design

you can check their vgen link in their discord profile to see their portfolio

[outer eagle]

yes exactly!

I’m a proud employee of VedalAI

[normal dagger]

Ffrrr

This is gonna be the highest quality documentary on YouTube atp

[spice thorn]

this is actually shaping up to be something awesome

[winged marsh]

crowdsourcing this is the greatest idea yall had

even if not everything is quality, ill add comments and stuff just to get opinions out there

whats important is not allowing this to peter out into nothingness, losing the assistance people have lent

ok im yapping

wtf

[tropic canyon]

That's what I'm worried about, but I doubt it'll be much of a problem if we can manage to get it done fast enough.

[worn wave]

when you guys start on the Evil portion i also wrote this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NeuroSama/s/QUwCmpxM1e

as i’ve said, i might need to add some stuff here but this covers the bulk of early Evil

[tropic canyon]

👍

[worn wave]

also Evil’s new model is partially inspired by the 2pfrog design (relatively small but worthy mention)

[pulsar spoke]

Someone break my link

[obsidian wyvern]

Huh

[pulsar spoke]

?

[obsidian wyvern]

wdym break my link

[pulsar spoke]

What wdym means

[pulsar spoke]

?

[obsidian wyvern]

what do you mean

[obsidian wyvern]

ohhhhhh

ya idk why that happened

[pulsar spoke]

I think it's the person who change the point number to ABC point

[tropic canyon]

I think most of the links still work

I messed up smth with the formatting

[pulsar spoke]

Ok

[pulsar spoke]

For the 2019 neuro clip Play Osu we can use this one. It's the official video for vedal https://youtu.be/w_ntORdHWsU?si=SPLvio_Uex96G0Wy

It's 11 minute but we can just pick some clip inside

[tropic canyon]

If you have questions for anyone that I might interview, send them in with the format below

Any question about anything at all related to neuro or vedal is on the table. Questions can be asked to anyone or everyone; I will do my best to reach out to anyone who has questions asked of them. Anyone can submit as many interview questions as they want. I need quite a few. It also doesn't matter if the question has already been answered before. Not everyone has seen every interaction these people have ever had.

For (Interviewee) - (Question)

Examples:

For Vedal - How does neuro communicate with the Minecraft ai
For Ellie - How many hours, in total, would you estimate you spent on neurodog
For Everyone - How often, if at all, do you forget that Neuro isn't a real person when you're interacting with her

[pulsar spoke]

Ok ok

[pulsar spoke]

Can you make a page for it in the doc

[tropic canyon]

When I get home, sure

Just send them here for now

[pulsar spoke]

i dont know what you do but my link still working but is not blue it's black lol

[obsidian wyvern]

the blue the underline is just the default links can be turned into normal looking words

[tropic canyon]

@tacit knot can you pin this too

[arctic sky]

Man I just saw one of those react videos , Im very excited to see this new project come together

[pulsar spoke]

because some person ask how the prononce vedal when they react to him we can add this clip where vedal explain how to prononce is name https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGG0eJghuR8&ab_channel=NeuronCh.

[lunar bluff]

The original SPIN lol

https://clips.twitch.tv/AmusedHappyBearPraiseIt

[pulsar spoke]

bruh

[pulsar spoke]

what is this ?

i am not good enough in english

[tropic canyon]

After that subathon, there were multiple months with no content

[pulsar spoke]

oh ok

i understand now

[rich canopy]

Wow, I've been off the Neurocord for a week and I'm missing out on writting of the video essay? Sign me up!

[tropic canyon]

This is growing a lot more than I thought it would

[stuck sedge]

Saw you mention the first miyu and camila collabs in the doc but didn't have links

Also here the link to the first evil appearance

First evil appearance
https://youtu.be/MpnuOTZBOaE?si=xCw2bkfP9AuMd3Vy

First miyu stream
https://youtu.be/SkBUD3_T6jw?si=CBsW-ETMewDUxb-0

First camila stream
https://youtu.be/bO6wqY-2Pjw?si=UdqtyYn08CC9Hp0N

[river jacinth]

Also might be good to check out the iceberg the comunity did not so long ago if thats okay https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1251998957194707065

Since it is a LOT of old references and could be good to see some points

[tropic canyon]

Someone made a txt file with the date for basically everything that's ever happened

I just haven't added them yet

[lunar bluff]

Drought is lack of water in a land/zone/society.
What language do you speak?

[pulsar spoke]

french is my first language

[lunar bluff]

I think it's Sécheresse.

[pulsar spoke]

yes but its not what the plan want to meaning so...

[lunar bluff]

What do you mean?

[pulsar spoke]

in the plan we dont want a point about Drought but like admiral explain to me it's represet the long time with no stream (2 and half month i think)

[lunar bluff]

It's a metaphor for saying that we were starving for content (although starving is about food).

[pulsar spoke]

yes i know

[lunar bluff]

Then I don't know what you are saying, sorry ☹️

[mild pasture]

[tropic canyon]

If anyone wants to contribute to the thread, you are still welcome though

Modern Neuro Video Essay - Any help or idea is appreciated (We're completely set on dates btw)

[tropic canyon]

Modern Neuro Video Essay - Any help or idea is appreciated

[pulsar spoke]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1067638175478071307/1260669585158443171/DuoNodders.gif?=

[tulip torrent]

I would suggest to be careful with this stuff, whoever is trying to go thru past messages, some of them may not be allowed to be posted here due to current rules

[tacit knot]

To add onto it, a lot of the iceberg is inside jokes in the community. Not a whole lot of neuro history IMO

[normal dagger]

huh

[normal dagger]

well. There's some

Technically.

It certainly made me FIND some neuro history

(Well.. technically)

Like an old vedal video he made like. 5 years ago where an unnamed ai landed a rocket in a game

[tacit knot]

It’s literally not Neuro history though

[opal obsidian]

Neuro, Neuro you can call me Neuro

open the video with that

[pulsar spoke]

lol

[normal dagger]

Well.
History is just stuff that's happened. If it's a community meme that stemmed from anything neuros done.

It's neuro history

Haha

Get. Uh, loopholed idfk

[arctic sky]

But the rocket game video you are talking about isnt a community meme…

[normal dagger]

Ik

I somehow found that one

And now the videos have sliiightly more views then they originally did

[tropic canyon]

2nd page finished

[mild mica]

shouldn't this be migrated to #1336777692070023271

[tropic canyon]

It could be

I'll do that in a bit

[mild mica]

alr cool

[tropic canyon]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1337647887781330996

[tropic canyon]

smh

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1337655911493144658