Neuro Clicker (Cookie Clicker) @ neurosama.click

[lyric violet]

A thread for discussion about the Neuro Clicker on https://neurosama.click !
This is a reskinned version of Cookie Clicker and discussions about the development of the game can be found here.

Main developer - @worthy palm
Web hoster - @lyric violet
Prod github - https://github.com/repoclones/neuroclicker-prod/

mod approved post btw

[tall barn]

Was this newly made?

[worthy palm]

This has existed for a while

[tall barn]

ic

[worthy palm]

It's currently V8

V8 is a major refactor of the entire codebase

[tall barn]

It's just bugging me very slightly that Orteil owns the copyright to Neuro Clicker™️

[worthy palm]

That's actually silly how something like that managed to make it in somewhere

[tall barn]

yes

you're getting me addicted how dare you

[worthy palm]

Neuro clicker is just that silly

[lyric violet]

Neuro Clicker (Cookie Clicker) @ neurosama.click [Discussion]

[uneven silo]

Can't believe I'm doing this all over again (I'm also playing the main version of Cookie Clicker)
Are there any plans on going from base version of 2.019 to main game's current version of 2.052? One big thing that's missing is the stonks minigame xD
Also, something to look out for to anyone who's used to latest version, the lucky heavenly upgrades appear with different conditions in this version, rather than requiring 1, 2 and 4 number sevens anywhere on total prestige level, they instead require prestige levels to end with 7; 777; and 777,777.

[worthy palm]

Rebasing this thing would be insanely difficult
The whole codebase is refactored
It might just be easier to either get a good JS dev or get good at JS and backport the features

[gilded geyser]

tags updated, feel free to change title

[static current]

@worthy palm Does Neuro Clicker add or modify any major game functionality compared to the vanilla game, or is exlusively re-skins and text replacements? I know that code has been refactored, but I'm wondering how much of that has an effect on gameplay. If there aren't any crazy changes to gameplay, I think this could be converted into a mod pretty easily.

[lyric violet]

Neuro Clicker (Cookie Clicker) @ neurosama.click

[worthy palm]

It doesn't currently majorly change anything, but we are adding new stuff and there are code modifications and such that exist
It's definitely not exclusively reskins

[static current]

Hmm... Buying upgrades and buildings is easy enough port over to Neuro Clicker, but it'll be hard to add features beyond that without having access to CCSE, which I assume isn't compatible with Neuro Clicker. It would be pretty easy to make a separate mod that adds the reskin parts of Neuro Clicker. That way I'd be able to continue using CCSE to develop the Neuro integration, and the game would be Neuro-themed if/when it gets played on stream. I'd only do that with the permission of you and the artists, of course.

[worthy palm]

You should be able to make modifications to any part of the code you need
Neuro clicker has quite a substantial amount of code changes even outside of those made for purely refactoring purposes
And I kinda don't want a mod competing with Neuro clicker itself

[lyric violet]

https://github.com/repoclones/neuroclicker-prod/

prod github for web updates

[static current]

I don't think it would be competing with Neuro Clicker - it could just be used by Vedal and not be publicly available. It's up to you, though.

Working on an in-development code base without access to existing tools would require a lot more work than what I was intending. It would also require you guys to thoroughly test the Neuro integration any time you make a change. It took me a lot of time to test my current code so it would work (almost) flawlessly when Vedal ran it on stream, and each additional feature will make testing more time consuming.

I need to think about it a little before committing to anything

[worthy palm]

I don't really know
Neuro clicker is really designed to be played as it is with all our changes to it
If it was ported to Neuro integration I don't think it would need to be updated that often for the Neuro integration side, just like every major update do a pass to port the Neuro integration over
And major updates take a while, so it wouldn't be that much probably

[tall barn]

I'm down to test new neuro integrations if you need

[shut moon]

Is this an extension/plugin/addon?

[worthy palm]

It's a modified version

[shut moon]

Does it work with existing CC saves?

[worthy palm]

If it's from earlier versions, it might

I don't think we've changed the save and load routines significantly

[static current]

I skimmed through the Neuro Clicker code and it doesn't seem like any of the stuff I currently depend has been changed. I've started working on porting my mod to Neuro Clicker and will probably have a pull request for you tomorrow.

[static current]

Thanks, I'll let you know if I need help with testing

[tall barn]

👍

[uneven silo]

Found another thing that's bothering me. What I assume to be First Coffee font doesn't work that well as a small font, particularly with 8 and 9 being hard to tell apart, especially if 9 is lone by itself as shown in this screenshot snippet.

[worthy palm]

Keep the Neuro clicker with Neuro integration stuff on a separate branch so it's easier to deploy the right version to web

[worthy palm]

If you know how to replace the font selectively, feel free to
I don't want to deal with the pain that is JS to do that for now though

[uneven silo]

Regarding Grimoire
In minigameGrimoire.js lines 409, 413, 487, 488, removing titleFont from their class should suffice
(I'm looking at files in https://github.com/repoclones/neuroclicker-prod/tree/main so line numbers may or may not vary)

As for the left part of the screen the relevant part seems to be on line 14309 of game.js, but the fix is not as easy, as the whole section that the Neuro gain speed is under has the title marker.

Perhaps the unified response to those would be to create new class in css with a desired font family that has more visible numbers when text is small. So for minigameGrimoire.js you would instead replace 'titleFont' with the new class name.
And then for the Neuro gathering speed on left part, you would add the new class, requires a bit of changes in the line as the original one doesn't have class marker by default, resulting in something like this for game.js line 14309 (Hope I didn't mess up there 😅 ):
str = str + '<div style="font-size:50%;" class="newFontClassNameHere' + (Game.cpsSucked > 0 ? ' warning' : '') + '">per second : ' + Beautify(Game.cookiesPs * (1 - Game.cpsSucked), 1) + '</div>';//display cookie amount

[worthy palm]

I have no clue what any of that means, JS is terribly confusing

Just make stuff, test if it works and if it does give me the modified files

[tall barn]

or like open a pull request, the code's on github after all

[worthy palm]

Yeah, but the GitHub is the web version prod, I do testing on a local repo copy

[tall barn]

eh I guess, whatever works for you

[static current]

I'll make a PR from a fork into main. The NeuroIntegration code needs to be deployed to the web regardless, unless you want to make Vedal host it locally.

[worthy palm]

It MUST be hosted locally to work
CORS and garbage

So yeah, keep it on a separate branch to make it easier to update the main game without messing with the Neuro integration stuff during development of the new version

[static current]

Can't he just use the web game runner? I'm pretty sure this is what that's for
https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk/blob/main/Web Game Runner/server.py

[worthy palm]

By the way, the web runner that is there replaced my better version for some dumb reason, even after I patched the reason they wanted to replace it
And that web runner just hosts the thing locally

(the difference is that mine works without things installed on the system but the example one requires Python to be installed and on the PATH, which is literally the core issue I was trying to prevent)

[static current]

I don't know what the reasoning was for replacing your runner with the current implementation, but I can say that personally I'd much rather run a simple Python script than a bundled JVM application. Having Python installed and on the PATH is a pretty reasonable requirement IMO.

[worthy palm]

Maybe, but you know how much issues Vedal had with it last year

I designed my thing to be as Vedal usable as possible

[static current]

@worthy palm I made a lot of progress on porting my mod to Neuro Clicker, but I found that I need to do a lot of extra work to essentially make my own modding API for all the functionality I need. I've decided I'm going to stick to modding the vanilla game as it's more straightforward and enjoyable for me. Best of luck with your development of Neuro Clicker!

[worthy palm]

I guess that's unfortunate, it would have been really cool to have Neuro integration in the Neuro version of Cookie clicker

[lyric violet]

A

[lyric violet]

dead :((

[worthy palm]

There's this one bug I haven't figured out the source of, that being that most numbers like percentages are not x% and are now displayed as x.0 instead for some reason

[tall barn]

are you passing them as strings or integers? (That's my first thought when I saw that lol)

[worthy palm]

I have literally no clue, that bug just randomly appeared when I refactored the entire thing I think, no clue what strange cursed JS interaction causes it

Have I mentioned I hate JS?