The wheel situation is crazy

[carmine haven]

The wheel in its current form is just an idiotic idea. No one wants it to end quickly. In my opinion the best option is to cancel the wheel and recalculate the timer. But I realize that not everyone can agree with that. Here's what I think is the best way to use the wheel. The numbers on the wheel need to grow every day. In this case, we will avoid the worst case on day 2. Vedal wants the timer to gradually decrease, so the options for day 1 can be -1, -1, -2, +1, +2. On day 2 add -3, +3, -4. On day 3, +4, -5, -6, and so on. You get the idea.

[patent wraith]

Your picture and the text describing how the days should look don't match.

Eitherway, that requires effort to redo the wheel each day and won't satisfy the ones who care enough to cry rigged since your wheel is much more heavily weighted to the negative. The current wheel is also fine. The only valid criticism i've seen is the wheel started too early and even then it's hindsight 20/20 complainers since it came down to luck since we got the worst result day 2. The double or nothing gave us +4 seconds for free albeit, again, luck. (Gambling addicts smh)

The current wheel, assuming he keeps removing options as spinned (and he should remove the -1 from the 1st spin if so) has a net value of -10

We're at 17 seconds. Do the math.
So the subathon has a potential of extending indefinitely at 7 seconds per sub if we survive long enough to get all rolls. This is a pretty big increase from the start of the subathon which had a calculated +3 per sub ending. That's assuming we survive that long enough and the rules don't change to ensure the subathon ends.

Day 4 onwards depend on luck. But now the worst that can happen tomorrow is we go to 10 seconds. Which is not different from your proposed worst case scenario. Except with the current wheel we have the potential to get +10 and more potential to get + spins in general.

[carmine haven]

All the numbers and the picture are just a demonstration of the idea. I'm not suggesting to do exactly with these numbers. And doubling is a kludge Vedal had to use. It wasn't part of the original plan

[patent wraith]

So your suggestion is to make a new wheel with new numbers but not this wheel and not these numbers. Gotchaaaaa.

It was definitely a kludge though, that much is obvious since the wheel spins were so trash over 3 days and he had to do something to keep the subathon going long enough. But that's to our benefit as explained.

Nobody benefits to just change the system mid subathon. Maybe an idea you can flesh out for next year. Though honestly just timing when to use the wheel better (after game jam maybe) and removing the +10 / -10 solves the issues like 99% of the time so it doesn't get too extreme too quickly.

[carmine haven]

I realize it's too late to change anything now, I'm just pissed off about the wheel and I'm venting my emotions in this thread

[patent wraith]

Fair. Lesson everyone can take from this; gambling fucking sucks.

Imagine if the -1, -10 and -3 were instead all positives. We'd be praising the wheel.

[misty sparrow]

I legit thought it's 20 (+1/+2/+3/-1/-2/-3...) everyday

Resetting back to 20, not using the number from previous day