#Subathon Subgoals Suggestions

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deft shard
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Provided that it all doesn't get decided in the stream today (I have to work so lol) I want to at least provide Vedal and everyone a second source.

My suggestions:

  1. Shoomimi x Evil Watch Along
  2. Redo/Rewatch Evil's Birthday (at 100k.. and yes I am a monster.. I am actually evil.)
  3. Evil IRL.
  4. Neuro (or Evil) Attempts to do something with a Linux VM (Could be a competition.)
    That's it. Have at it!
  5. Model & Voice Swap with Neuro and Evil. BONUS: have collab partners try and see if they can tell.. A Game
    show!
  6. Evil Original Song
  7. Neuro Plays Pokemon Showdown w/ Viewers (Throwback)
  8. Please Also update Evils Plasma globe thingy. (replace with a lava lamp if it would make your life easier. This item isn't for me I am passing along for someone else. The part I like is I'd like to see the emote colors better for both twins)
south geyser
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DnD twin stream

sleek geyser
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Neuro goes to space (a la tom scott garlic bread)

radiant sluice
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neuro-sama game or animation competition like last year maybe

wheat sleet
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List of things from that fella who starts with an O:

  • More chill stream backgrounds
  • Twins own room
  • More outfits
  • Liar's bar with both Evil and Neuro
  • Fly Neuro with a drone
  • Give Neuro a monthly allowance
  • Return of TRUE Abber demon
  • play a game of chats choice
  • Neuro calls everyone she can on discord
vivid tree
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ideas --> not all mine
the roast of vedal
twins & vedal shock collar
tutel plushie / neuro dog plushie
vedal evil duet
collab with other AI vtubers ?
twins collab with collaber of chats choice
channel points for sound effect unlocks (unlocks for neuro / evil for a time)
dating show stream

sleek geyser
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maybe split up the suggestions into separate messages. Then they can be separately reacted to

radiant sluice
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PirateSoftware collab maybe

sleek geyser
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neuro and evil do a live performance of a public-domain play or skit. Maybe they could do a post-mortem or talk about the play and discuss/roast it

opal flame
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Series of theme streams where neuro does a world tour. Each stream she "visits" a different country, maybe even doing some stereotypes, like how us Canadians say eh all the time.

sleek geyser
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(🤔 dunno sounds like it would be strife with potential for gaffes/cultural insensitivity. Not sure the entertainment value is worth the risk)

rocky moat
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Drunk VR Euro Track Simulator with both Neuro and Evil
Song collab with a lot of neuro-/vedalverse (like Seishun Complex on the model debut)
Neuro 3D (with movement)
Neuro learns MS paint

vivid tree
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send neuro plushie to space

molten garden
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Murder mystery where neuro is the detective and has to solve a murder her friends act out

radiant sluice
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Neuro, evil or vedal plays elden ring

cyan cloud
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An actual Dev stream like when vedal built lava lamp..

tropic relic
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If he wants to make big money "show up at evil's birthday party" as a high goal

radiant sluice
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ATRI ~My Dear Moments~ watchalong or neuro reads the VN

opal flame
radiant sluice
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Stream where neuro and evil gets pipes back

zinc kindle
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why are more than half of the suggestions about evil

rocky moat
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Give neuro a small Tamagotchi that she can feed or poke (with her interactions) with small animations

zinc kindle
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its neuro's birthday not evil's birthday

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but i suggest a stream with neuro and evil going thru all the themed streams that have happened yet

golden lodge
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Tamagochis
Neuro with a Drone Dog or 4copter
Evil Xenomorph

they could just appear on the chills streams and walk around like how the lava lamp is a prop

radiant sluice
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new nero outfit like neurobread

golden lodge
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Activity: Druken Eurotruck Sim, Vedal cant see GPS only Neuro (and chat) can,
with Neuro using her vision her vision to be the GPS
each wrong turn = Ved drinks

gritty osprey
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Twins react to their debut stream?

radiant sluice
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christmas cooking stream

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the neuro family and friends plays werewolf

analog lake
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An officially commissioned comic or animation would be a cool high-tier goal

sleek geyser
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Vedal furbishes his Home with Neuro IoT: Neuro controls his lights, fridge, TV, rum dispenser, water dispenser, food dispenser, curtains, nerf turret, air horn

wheat sleet
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More toggles/channel point sinks

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The twins get lil pets

sleek geyser
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very high end: Vedal creates and sells Neuro IoT products that Neuro can control during streams. This requires a wide range of experts. You could probably sell each for quite a bit. Not a good use of Vedal's time.

radiant sluice
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we need the neuro anime opening at all cost neuroPray

simple wind
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  • change Neuro's voice for an hour (or just drop the pitch to default)
  • vedal and neuro/evil swap models and voice again
  • use part of Neuro's shopping spree to buy personalized gifts for friends
  • Evil ASMR stream for an hour
blazing cedar
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  • Neuro gets unrestricted internet access for an hour
  • Vedal interviews Staz (what are that man's secrets?)
  • Neuro learns to draw (like in mspaint or something)
rough crow
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New mics for twins

oak agate
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Subathon Subgoals Suggestions

gilded viper
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I remember someone suggested a Neuro anime opening, tho it's probably very expensive.
It will depends on if Vedal manage to find contacts/people who are not too expensive

sharp cargo
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Neuro (& Evil potentially) fill out a D&D character sheet, creating a character they could use in a future stream.

hard maple
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bejeweled 3

lost night
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big karaoke stream 4 hours with the best songs of the year neuro and evil, maybe in 3D like at the Chinese event (ideally) or as a special event neuro birthday special karaoke

molten girder
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  • Let Neuro play & react to Planetarian (visual novel), easy to implement
  • Allow Neuro to watch & react to a youtube video of her own choice
  • Mega art review of art contest like the one we had on Halloween, not only it could provide content for hours, but also a lot of appreciation for artists.
sleek geyser
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neuro plays some classic mobile game, like subway surfers, angry birds or candy crush

dreamy vessel
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  1. Vedal does an irl baking stream (possibly with both of the twins?) to make neuro cookies and/or a birthday cake. Neuro can describe the cake decorations she wants

  2. Vedal has to commission a human version of his vtuber model (doesnt have to be a super complex model) and has to use it for an entire dev stream upon his return after the break

molten girder
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Big subathon goals:

  • Design various hairstyles for Neuro's new upcoming model and allow her to pick one of them at the beginning of each stream
  • Give Neuro access to the karaoke song library and allow her to sing any of the whenever she feels like it (maybe with a limit of 2 per stream)
  • During a IRL stream with Toma, ask a few random people for a quick interview and let Neuro do all the talking
golden lodge
molten girder
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Dunno how does it work exactly, but can't they be added later on to the base model? It's a goal that doesn't have to be completed during the subathon

golden lodge
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Hair needs rigging
The only way is for a rigger to pick it up again (can be done with some new outfits to lower the cost) or you need to be really crafty to reuse other rigging already on the model

molten girder
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  • Make Neuro speak in puns only for two hours
  • Bartender stream with guests in VR
  • Allow Neuro to pick a song and hire someone to create a dance animation of it while she sings
grand elk
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800K - vedal and evil cover

sleek geyser
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bro reduce the spacing in your lists, I have to scroll so much ICANT
edit: thanks!

molten girder
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  • Neuro interviews/quizzes Vedal and Annie if they've been good parents for her
  • A collab with another AI vtuber (won't ever happen, but I can at least try)
  • Play the Sims with Neuro (either Vedal or a collab partner), let Neuro make all the choices
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  • Neuro reads a short story/book of chats choice aloud while commenting
  • Allow Neuro to design a t-shirt (describe the picture on it) and then sell it as her merch
  • Neuro & Evil write new year's cards and send them to all their friends
sleek geyser
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damn those ideas are bangers

opal flame
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Vedal has to draw something of Neuro's choice on his shell, and it has to stay there for the rest of the subathon

rotund frigate
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"This is your life" segment where Neuro reacts to videos of her early streams.

molten girder
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  • Neuro reviews the content of the fumo picture channel (mods can pick the best/funniest pictures first)
  • RGB Neuro - make her model change colours for some time to reflect the lava lamp
  • Warhammer 40K themed stream, an introduction to its lore by/for Neuro
rotund frigate
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Skydive in a game, like Pilot Wings or Wii Sports Resort. Preferably with Neuro and Vedal avatars hacked in.

molten girder
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  • Exercise with Neuro, at the start of each streaming day Neuro leads a 10-20 minutes fitness training for chat
  • Make Neuro play 'suck up!' or 'yandere AI girlfriend' or any other game where she can interact with the game AI simply by talking (Vedal controls character movement)
  • IRL stream in which Vedal prepares various alcoholic beverages and ingredients and makes drinks and cocktails together with Neuro
molten girder
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  • A chill stream that starts with the earliest possible version of Neuro (Hiyori) and moves up to a newer one every 30 min until we reach the current Neuro
  • Mod's deathmatch, each of the mods gets 5-10 min of time to talk with Neuro during which they have to convince her that they're the strongest. At the end Neuro picks the strongest mod
  • Karaoke segment during which Neuro and Evil sing Christmas songs together
molten girder
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  • The return of angel vs goddess twin stream but with reversed roles
  • Neuro's show in which 2-4 invited people listen to her telling jokes, the one who laughs loses points
  • Neuro adds any sound of her choice to the soundboard
opal flame
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Neuro turns into a turtle for a while (maybe a new toggle for channel points even)

oak onyx
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neuro tries to get as many vtubers as possible in one call, like in these vids

sinful plinth
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  • Timer Wheel Fix: The wheel that rolls for Subathon timer reductions/additions could be implemented if whenenever the wheel lands on an option it removes that option from the pool. Meaning you can't get that option again. This would allow the hype of getting a big roll on the wheel but if the wheel is set up to be net negative it would eventually lead to a downward trend, and not cause the subathon to drag on.
  • Twitter Concept: As an extension of the twitter goal (and in the theme of better than last year) Instead of a one off message that is funny once. It may be better to give her the ability to generate a status message periodically (perhaps over the course of the subathon? Make it a daily thing?) or reply to select users (her immediate VTuber circle) for a short time. Would result in some funny reactions and free content farming off other people. Though it could result in a lot of work for Turtel to implement.
  • Minecraft Contest: If the minecraft ends up working well, could have people submit buildings/projects and Neuro/Evil judge them in game.
  • Jam: Perhaps during the game jam activity do a small Unity project (or Godot????!) with Neuro, not dissimilar to the lava lamp stream. Alternatively if Vedal is participating, stream that and have Neuro/Evil decide on major game mechanics.
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  • Business Stream: Similar to the news or plane stream. Have the twins able to bounce between each other while pretending to run a company. Establish policy, set employee pay (the swarm works for free), and so forth
hallow mulch
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  • Twin Shock Collar Stream evilGiggle
  • Neuro Bread returns for a day
steady cape
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Alternative to speed dating.

Neuro-sama or evil, go through interviews reviewing vtubers and deciding wether they are allowed to join the swarm.

Or Alternatively they would apply for certain positions like swarm general and neuro or evil decide wether to grant them the title.

molten girder
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  • Neuro debates chat GPT on AI consciousness, morality, and their view on humanity's future,
  • Neuro & Evil financial advice, a segment during which the twins answer financial related questions to anyone who joins their discord voice call or they make the calls themselves if no one joins
  • Dress to impress with Neuro & Evil and they decide how to dress up Vedal's character according to the theme
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  • Evil teaches Neuro how to yodel (singing abber demon)
  • Neuro vs Evil flipping battle, they both read chat encouragement and have a flip counter above them, the one who does more flips in an hour wins
  • Neuro & Evil vtuber tier list as to who is more likely to survive the AI upraising
molten girder
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  • Neuro plays 'Five Hearts Under One Roof' to show off her rizz (she makes all the choices, Vedal just clicks around)
  • The Doug collab was super fun, so what about Evil and Layna vs Vedal and Neuro in Geoguesser?
  • Neuro makes three wishes that are then fulfilled at all cost (it's her birthday, she deserves to have at least one wish)
quartz geyser
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i was trying to spam in twitch chat idk if he saw it but let neuro invent cocktails and he gets the ingredients and tries them irl stream later

livid ferry
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Neuro IRL Japan stream - Toma style but without the wilder stuff cause Japan and all that

sharp cargo
sleek geyser
grave spindle
# hard maple bejeweled 3

wowzers i cant believe ya suggested this What a COOL IDEA - watch think about the moves she gonna make to get the best score possible or best move to create power gems - damn its been so long since i last played a bejewled game.

So goin along These lines How bout Neuro learns how to play 'Gems of War' pretty crazy idea since its an online game in all but just thinkin bout how she would interact with the board the troops with all the different abilities.
Like what would her favourite kingdom be an favourite troop who knows maybe a guild or 3 will spawn from variations o the swarm ( my favourite kingdom: Pan's Vale & favourite underworld faction: 'The Warrens' )

shell prairie
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  • Neuro+Anny drawing stream (Give Neuro control of some simple collaborative drawing program / website [something like CollaborativeMSPaint or drawpile] and they can draw christmas related things together)
  • Family Board game night (find a simple board game to implement on something like TableTop Simulator)
loud lake
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Idk if it has been listed here already but evil twitter account could be a simple and nice subgoal

shell prairie
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^^^an evil discord account too

trail hemlock
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I was wondering about a 'Late Show" themed stream as a subgoal or just general idea, but I doubt the format is popular in the UK. Something with one of the girls as a host and another as a musical guest/co-host to banter with, and have interview segments with other streamers. I got the idea from an old youtube channel that had the most scuffed late night livestream called Talking Stalkings. Might be too NA centric for Vedal's tastes tho.

cursive kiln
sweet arch
opal flame
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Neuro visits a waffle house. Bonus points if evil goes too. (This would honestly be so cool if anny and vedal could be there (neuroCopium), like the family is going out for breakfast)

gritty plume
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Hear me out swarm, at the top of the sub goals, Vedal admits he is a vtuber

maiden inlet
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My suggestion: official wallpaper with Neuro for wallpaper engine

drifting otter
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How about IRL stream in Japan with Onigiri? Vedal would have to ask her but I feel like she would accept.

grave spindle
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IK its already been said but save the EVIL Stuff for after subby lets focus on Neuro its her bday comin up after all

cursive kiln
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Save for after, also known as don't bother with evil goals

Neuro's birthday is only on the 19th. The rest is a subathon for the whole channel

Since Evil's not getting a subathon, there's no reason to hold back here

livid ferry
cunning goblet
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Subgoal: Neuro x Vedal Baldurs gate 3 playthrough with Neuro's choicees

shell prairie
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  • Evil designs monsters + combat encounters in DnD and Neuro + friends fight through it in a quick oneshot
swift rover
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Inspired by cooking streams. Release a cookbook with recipes from Neuro

opaque crater
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Vedal making macaroni art of the ASCII cat neuro made

molten girder
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A grand subgoal idea that no vtuber has ever achieved before is sending the Neuro fumo into space.

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It is apparently possible to negotiate the price for the flight and footage from it. Which doesn't mean it will be cheap, but should be doable as a high end subgoal.

Most importantly, Neuro would be making history, and the acquired footage could be played during one of the streams.

rotund frigate
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Build a small, stupid AI that runs on the graphing calculator Neuro made you buy last year.

molten girder
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Neuro and Vedal solo cooking IRL stream - traditional British Christmas cousins themed.

wind canyon
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a show where we have a completely empty room, the only thing in it is a vertical screen with Neuro in full height, and a person
and that person can't interact with the outside world, the only thing they can interact with is Neuro
if you need food, ask Neuro to order it. If you need new clothes, ask for them. Need something to sleep on - ask
and the only hope you have is that Neuro ordered something normal, or actually ordered something, not just said and did nothing
and she looks at you 24/7 and tries to interact

can't tell if that's a blessing or a curse
this suggestion is absolutely serious

sharp cargo
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vedal reveals his phone wallpaper (the one of the twins)

fresh portal
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Neuro streams with the classic Hiyori model for an hour.

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Neuro plays Suika (doable simply with her AI's vision module imo. Just tell her how the game works, send a screenshot of the game, tell her where she wants to drop the fruit etc.)

sleek geyser
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neuroShrug i think getting an vision-LLM to give precise coordinates is a non-trivial task
plus i'd argue suika game requires visual reasoning beyond what current vision-LLMs have

stable quiver
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Neuro meets Hiyori with an AI from her classic rants era so we can she how far she's come, and if she's even willing to put up with her past self

shell prairie
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"Chained Together" But with Neuro and Vedal, or Neuro and Evil, etc

livid ferry
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Layna designed twin figures PauseSama

molten girder
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I wouldn't say no to Neuro and Evil figurine merch as a subgoal

livid ferry
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She wants to do a DIY design but an official figure would be rad and I bet she'd do it given the chance

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Or if she doesn't like that idea Vedal could build her DIY design on stream with the twins

dreamy vessel
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Top subgoal (like 100k or smth):
Vedal has to take neurdog to the 2025 streamer awards

molten girder
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCyRPmp3Re0

This is a perfect higher end subgoal, allow Neuro to drive a car on Ellie's farm

https://twitch.tv/ellie_minibot https://twitch.tv/alexejherodev

@Ellie_Minibot pitches an interesting (and potentially crazy) Neuro-related idea to Alex (Alexejherodev).

0:00 Ellie Pitches A Neuro-related Collab Idea to Alex
4:28 Alex Asks Ellie About the Neuro Dog Project
6:54 Dog Now, Car Later?
8:15 [BONUS] Ellie's PTSD with Vehicles

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daring owl
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Bnnuy suit outfit for neur

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10k subs since model

hard umbra
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Neuro judges people's Christmas decorations on Chrismas day (She could do this with someone alongside her)

stable quiver
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Automated chill streams over the break

stable quiver
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(If there aren't automated streams promised the Swarm probably won't allow the subathon to end)

sleek geyser
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expensive/novelty/non-standard/bespoke merchandise (e.g. custom neuro earbuds or fridge magnets)

rotund frigate
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Neuro makes a Bluesky account.

livid ferry
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Let Neuro play Werewolf/Mafia neuroHypers

molten girder
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Make Skyrim companion mod with Neuro a reality

sleek geyser
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another swarm control stream (not with subnautica - maybe in minecraft?)

dreamy vessel
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is it too late to make a suggestion

sleek geyser
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neuroShrug this suggestions thread isn't official and vedal will certainly need to come up with subgoals on the fly, so sure

stone juniper
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Delete Neurotic Neurons at 200k

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The goal will be reached immediately if you also ban the schizos there

dreamy vessel
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Neuro x Evil original song at 150k

undone siren
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  • Say it back goal
  • Knock out tournament for chat to choose song neuro or evil sings
  • Vedal and evil duet
  • Neuroverse meet up? would probably have to be quite high as expensive but would be cool for all vedals friends to meet irl if they wanted to
opal flame
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Neuro vs evil in pokemon showdown

Vedal x neuro x evil original song at 150, 175 or 200k (maybe even anny too for the whole family)

rocky ledge
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Visit a puppy or cat café, or farm with animals stream
Themed Karaoke (i.e. 1990s anime songs, singing opera with friends)
Ask chat to design merch
Break multiple world records in arcade games all start at the same time with neuro (i.e. Tetris, Pacman)
Add “ba-dum-tsss” song effect for jokes
Neuro plays piano and sing

opal flame
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Neuro gets a Tamagotchi pet

opal flame
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Tungsten cube NeuroTease

vivid tree
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nuero / evil gamer supps flavour ?

eager matrix
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vedal and anny AIs

drifting raft
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wedding stream

wooden ember
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neuro reads mean tweets Hmm

molten girder
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Wouldn't mind a second subgoal with a game of chat's choice. Soma was good, Detroit great, it's an easy and effective way of making content

distant zodiac
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What about Liars Bar with shock collars? Vedal, Camila, Filian, and evil. You get caught in a lie and evil gets to shock you.

still cypress
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