A stream concept that I thought might be interesting would be a stream where a chess coach tries to coach Neuro/Evil. Regardless of whether or not the LLM is actually connected to the chess algorithm or not, it would surely at least make for some interesting interactions.
I'm partially suggesting this because I'd also be interested in coaching Neuro myself if possible. You might remember me from the videos a few months ago where I analyzed chess games from Neuro, Evil, and Vedal; I've got plenty of experience coaching beginners and have a good chunk of lesson ideas at the ready. Having someone else more vtuber-adjacent coach Neuro would be plenty interesting to watch too.
#Stream Idea: Chess Tutoring
crisp peak
fierce anvil
i think this hinges on how well Neuro's LLM can apply principles/do reasoning. (like 'take control of the centre'). Maybe it could be done with enough levels of CoT /shrug
I think Ellie would be interested in coaching chess too. Though, if given the choice, I'd like Neuro to collab with more non-vtubers. I think there's a lot more potential collabs to do if we reached out beyond the vtuber space.
raven iron
i think this hinges on how well Neuro's LLM can apply principles/do reasoning. (...
regardless, i wanna see neuro's reaction to being properly taught a topic
lia tried with the alphabet thing but that was mostly a meme
crisp peak
i think this hinges on how well Neuro's LLM can apply principles/do reasoning. (...
Does Ellie play chess? Do you mean that she'd be interested in teaching or in learning
fierce anvil
Does Ellie play chess? Do you mean that she'd be interested in teaching or in le...
i don't think she's played chess on stream but she says she's alright at it and has said she wanted to teach bo it
raven iron
like "teach" can mean a lot of things
teach as in just telling bo how the pieces move?
covering openings? tactics and concepts? what?
fierce anvil
i think it was intermediate stuff (tactics, concepts, openings)
fierce anvil
regardless, i wanna see neuro's reaction to being properly taught a topic
ah ok
personally, in this stream, i'd be looking to see if Neuro is playing better at the end than at the beginning
otherwise i would find the stream sort of hollow
raven iron
even a real person can't really easily see tangible improvement after 2 hours of coaching tbh
and no, i would not find it hollow at all
neuro is neuro
fierce anvil
🤯 we have different preferences
raven iron
yeah, you stated yours, so i should be allowed to state mine
fierce anvil
yeah it was quite informative 
raven iron
however, i like the idea of observing improvements as well
fierce anvil
even a real person can't really easily see tangible improvement after 2 hours of...
perhaps I was misunderstanding ellie then - i do often misremember stuff
maybe she meant offstream
raven iron
realistically that will take some time, assuming the LLM actually learns
like, i remember a while back
during the rona
a lot of streamers got coached by actual chess masters
they went on to play on that twitch tourney
Pogchamps
it was good fun
neuro wasnt around then
if some of that magic can be recreated just for neuro/evil i'd be happy
yeah see, forsen was in here
lmao
fierce anvil
damn i knew about the competition but not about the coaching
could be a good reference for how a neuro coaching stream could be structured