#Personal Feedback for 1st CN Stream & Personal QA about CN environment

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bleak mist
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Under the commercial operations of the business team vedal cooperates in CN, the popularity of the stream soon reaches the highest of the site (at 2am and 3am, counted hourly). Neuro also receieved more than 200 fleets (Bilibili variation of subscription) in her 1st stream! Cheers for neuro here! neuroHypers

It's exciting to see more than 10k peak viewers, but remember that vedal and neuro's fan base is small. Extra people flooding in doesn't know the interaction feature is under construction, they doesn't know this stream is only a chatting stream, and they might not really know that it's an AI. Chat at start is catastrophically in chaos, but fortunately turning better as it getting very late at night. One reminder for vedal is that in CN network (and maybe the global Internet), popularity might not be a really good thing. There will always be people seeking for repulsive fun.

Luckily, I've been seeing CN swarm are actively trying to maintain a good environment, including advising people to interact in Twitch and condemning fun-seekers, even at a cost of sending super chats (you will see -30, -50, -100 during stream, all because people sending superchats at a cost of real money for no neuro replies). I dare not to say I'm an active swarm member (I don't really watch neuro that often) but I feel warm for their movements.

So, what's next? Posting explanatory videos, dev streams, or just a short text update? The choice in on the turtle nekodal and I don't feel that I'm the one who is capable at giving a suggestion. But what I can do is to provide some explanations for Chinese environment. And I believe CN swarm members can help you as well with neuroHeart .

Please post your questions below and I might try to answer them? Been busy these time nwero .

outer salmon
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do you know the price of 1 bilibili subscription/fleet?

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I heard a rumor that 1 bilibili subscription was $20

bleak mist
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and if you choose the 198CNY tier with auto-renewal turned on, there will be a discount (to 138CNY)

outer salmon
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and 1 fleet lasts 1 month?

bleak mist
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yes

outer salmon
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Sorry if I'm asking for info that I could look up myself 😅

around 28$, 280$ and 2800$
That's crazy.
So if all 200 of those fleets were the 198CNY tier, then about $5600 was spent on fleets, which is the equivalent of 1100 twitch subs. That is insane 🤯

bleak mist
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and some fleets (around one and two?) are in the 1998CNY tier

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spoiler: one of which is gifted by a CN-native AI vtuber

outer salmon
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🤔 so more like 1250 twitch subs (equivalent)

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they might not really know that it's an AI
That's a good point. The biliibili intro video assumes knowledge of Neuro. Thus it only talks to the pre-existing fanbase in China, not new people who haven't heard about Neuro.
Perhaps a generic introduction video could be made to bring the chinese fans up to speed (like you suggest). It would introduce Neuro, Evil and Vedal. It could even maybe provide a condensed timeline of the past 1.5 years and introduce Anny etc. This video could then be reused for the japanese and spanish markets too.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV17r421K7Ak/

outer salmon
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oh vedal wrote a short paragraph, before the stream, that explained that Neuro couldn't see the bilibili chat
#neurotic-neurons message

bleak mist
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I'd rather say that the business team made a wrong decision (or it is not good at this at all, they just want to see big numbers, they don't care about vedal&neuro)

white copper
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It's not crazy, as you can see, it's just how passionate Chinese users are about live streaming and Vtuber

white copper
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I have long said that Neuro has broad potential in China and across Asia

bleak mist
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btw, perhaps cn-native vtuber environment doesn't sound that well. it's now a place of more repulsive fun. idk but I would like to suggest vedal to stay a step away from cn collabs

bleak mist
white copper
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As of now, Neuro's Bilibili broadcast room has 237 captains, three of whom are commanders.

bleak mist
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yes it's a lot even from a view of us cn viewers

white copper
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So now, after deducting 50% of the platform's revenue, Vedal has made 25,164 CNY if tax is not taken into account

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Amount to 2,755.46 GBP

bleak mist
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might be more or less but who knows

white copper
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Yes, but it's still a lot of money. According to today's live stream, there are 175 new captains

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And that doesn't include gifts
Gift Name: Spicy Strips, Total Count: 63,719
Gift Name: Fan Club Signboard, Total Count: 44,545
Gift Name: Popularity Tickets, Total Count: 5,824
Gift Name: Qixi Meteor Shower, Total Count: 4,015
Gift Name: Heart-fluttering Card, Total Count: 769
Gift Name: Little Flowers, Total Count: 434
Gift Name: Peach Blossom Branch, Total Count: 333
Gift Name: B-Clapper, Total Count: 202
Gift Name: Love Letter, Total Count: 160
Gift Name: Double Limit Card, Total Count: 92
Gift Name: Awesome Cow, Total Count: 85
Gift Name: Cheering, Total Count: 73
Gift Name: Lollipop, Total Count: 56
Gift Name: This is Great, Total Count: 31
Gift Name: Popularity Top 1, Total Count: 24
Gift Name: Nice, Total Count: 11
Gift Name: Pinch the Cheek, Total Count: 11
Gift Name: Cheer for You, Total Count: 10
Gift Name: Small Cake, Total Count: 8
Gift Name: Hundred Million Yuan, Total Count: 8
Gift Name: Drooling Soybeans, Total Count: 6
Gift Name: Heart Pillow, Total Count: 6
Gift Name: Maiden's Prayer, Total Count: 6
Gift Name: Milky Way into Dreams, Total Count: 4
Gift Name: Strawberry Cake, Total Count: 4
Gift Name: Meow Girl, Total Count: 3
Gift Name: Happy Birthday, Total Count: 3
Gift Name: Transforming Microphone, Total Count: 2
Gift Name: Fairy Rabbit, Total Count: 2
Gift Name: Stars and Moon, Total Count: 2
Gift Name: Mechanical Fantasy, Total Count: 2
Gift Name: Galaxy Lantern, Total Count: 2
Gift Name: Go for It, Total Count: 2
Gift Name: Pat on the Head, Total Count: 2
Gift Name: Sweet Call, Total Count: 1
Gift Name: Fancy Praise, Total Count: 1
Gift Name: Confession Bouquet, Total Count: 1
Gift Name: Starship Launch, Total Count: 1
Gift Name: Friendship Boat, Total Count: 1
Gift Name: Star Track Train, Total Count: 1
Gift Name: Heartbeat Launch, Total Count: 1
Total Guard( Captains ) count: 175

bleak mist
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yeah that's a lot. fyi all of these gifts counts money except Spicy Strips

white copper
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yeah

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# outer salmon Sorry if I'm asking for info that I could look up myself 😅 > around 28$, 280$ ...

yeah chinese vtuber viewers are like that😓 also I wouldnt measure success by how much revenue the stream generated, because currently the stream chat/video comment areas are both flooded with people who havent heard of neuro before, and there's also a bit of controversy surrounding a chinese vtuber guild(of very bad reputation) that vedal supposedly(i havent seen any concrete evidence) cooperated with to get neuro's account up on bilibili

dim estuary
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just gonna jump in to say, please do not speculate neuroPray

dim estuary
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i'll also add - if there's something that might concern vedal, please don't hesitate to open a ticket with details to back up whatever it might be!

white copper
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https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1dr421M7p9
Translation from Chinese to English:
During a live broadcast on Bilibili, Yezpi commented on Neuro, saying it would be difficult for Neuro to reach a thousand captains. A minor reason is that the developer Vedal didn't come, which means there's less fun. The main reason is the lack of interaction in the country. No matter how famous it is, without interaction, half of the revenue is lost.

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