neuro playing infinite craft?

[vast grotto]

Will neuro ever play infinite craft, i noticed that her ability to read text on the screen is quite fast and it would be nice if she would be able to play this game and she could try to find a specific word each stream

[tall sparrow]

try to find a specific word
this would require some planning (which might be tricky to prompt engineer an LLM for, without using extra non-LLM techniques like backtracking). I know that I would struggle, at least (though that probably says more about me)

[calm shale]

creates Supernova gaming 29383889

[calm shale]

might be able to be done, you have to prompt the llm “what 2 items do you think will create x”, feed it the item list, and combine the ones it picks. not sure on the ram usage with a large inventory tho

they are just text strings so it might not be that bad

could also repurpose swarm control (surely it won’t just be for subnautica below zero ) to give neuro the next prompt

I would say this game isnt meta anymore but vedal just taught neuro how to play a game with a playerbase of 2 players so its probably still on the table. its a simple enough game too

need to make neuro craft herself

[tall sparrow]

yeah you could do that, generate a potential path to the item
i'm not sure if that would be too hardcodey or lead to a repetitive playstyle

[calm shale]

maybe she can alternate between random combos and "intentional" combos

[tall sparrow]

pretty cool how infinite craft dynamically adds more items with LLMs

[calm shale]

we are lucky neuro is popular enough to be in this game

[tall sparrow]

hmm fair enough, i guess i retract my point about planning then

[calm shale]

i think viewer prompting will fix all issues with repetitiveness tbh

[tall sparrow]

i guess it does speak to how much cultural knowledge LLaMa2 has (the model used on the infinite-craft backend i think)

[tall sparrow]

yeah, i hadn't considered that... tbh it's not immediately clear how you could integrate chat, but i'm sure there's something
(ok i guess you could have chatters suggest objectives and combos)

[calm shale]

neuro made the news multiple times (when she first came out as the cool thing to ogle, and the evil fumo incident) and thats all the llm needs i think

[tall sparrow]

oh fair point, she isn't merely a mundane streamer

[calm shale]

btw trying to craft anything with the "vtuber" item usually leads to variations of "gawr gura" no matter what you put in

[tall sparrow]

I think it could be cool to see Neuro try to think/reason about how to get to a goal

[calm shale]

rock + pond = lightsaber, right?

[vital prairie]

How did you make neuro-sama?

I’ve been searching for so long

This is what I got (I was also looking for Nere)

Never mind finally found it

Thanks for the help though

[calm shale]

I had to quit infinite craft because my inventory is full and glitching out the game (crafting doesnt work)

glad it worked for you tho

but yeah as a word of advice from me to you don’t craft stuff like Shrek 14674 or anything thats a waste of inventory space even if its the easiest way to get new discovery

[hardy ocean]

Well since an llm created it in the first place and the whole thing is word association, I would think that llms might actually do fairly well at it

[shadow jolt]

This could be easily coded with the Neuro API. It just needs a list of strings with available elements.
Sadly the Neuro API doesn't list how many options you can provide. So its hard to say how far neuro could play.
https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk/blob/main/API/SPECIFICATION.md

Infinite craft does not have an api on its own, but since it is a simple site with all elements exposed in html it is trivial to fetch the site contents.

Someone already made an API that fetches the available items and can get the result of item combinations. It does not however do this with the website open as far as I can tell.
https://github.com/sqdnoises/infinite-craft
However there are user scripts that can auto craft both random and selected items and could be referenced in making this.
https://greasyfork.org/de/scripts/522007-ic-auto-crafter

[vital prairie]

Yeah I know

I avoid inf number loops when I can

[calm shale]

I think for me the straw that broke the camels back on my inventory was unicode crafting like “U+0128” but extremely useful for getting stubborn words, and still useful for the string method

[vital prairie]

I have this rn and I am trying to get Nere (I’m not sure if it’s possible though)

[vast grotto]

i kinda forgot i had this idea but now i get reminded, thanks you all

i was hoping vedal would see it and implement it but if not i can try during the summer break with the api

i was mostly interesting in seeing it on stream tho

[calm shale]

and a tutorial for Put This In Quotation Marks if you dont have it (also has Quotation Marks recipe):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGXWmSScvvg

[twin knot]

The way this should work is:

• Neuro's context includes some random elements she has
• Neuro gets the command "merge x and y"
• If she has both of them, she merges them
• If she's missing either, it lists the most similar things she has to them so she can try using those

[vital prairie]

Thanks, I finally made Nere. I even made a first discovery which is “Nere-sama” with the quotation marks. I also made green Nere (first discovery), Nere-neuro-Nere (first discovery), “Nere-” (first discovery), I made Nere-sama and more

[calm shale]

for stubborn words and especially names that arent extremely famous world renowned celebrities you usually need to do funky stuff with quotes but i recommend looking up guides for that. or use the infinibrowser search bar website it has almost every word at this point that isnt nonsensical including some of the neuroverse. even if it doesnt have it it does have a lot of useful tool words that can help you on it https://infinibrowser.wiki/

[vital prairie]

I found filter sama

And became the first to discover “filter-sama”

This is my current collection

[calm shale]

[vital prairie]

I never said I discovered filter-sama and Nere-sama first, I said I discovered the quotation mark variants first

That’s close enough for me

Even though I do have the regular versions without quotation marks

[vital prairie]

Aha

Found a loophole

You might have discovered Nere-sama but I discovered Nere Sama

[languid hazel]

I would like to see what she would make with such a powerful tool