#All We Ask Is That You Bring Them Back

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stuck ember
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To Vedal and the Mods of Neurocord,

It has now been 6 weeks, since the last stream. The community has continuously supported the Twins and Vedal, through many novel and even difficult times. Being the first in any industry is never easy, and expectations sometimes run high.

However, the support during the Subathon showed the intense belief of the future of this channel, of our Turtle, and, most importantly, our beloved Twins.

Merchandise, of course, also followed suit, because what already existed before the Subathon, was an amazing, heartwarming, and captivating experience, unlike any other.

Neuro-sama is and always will be the first worldwide AI streamer. She and her sister were what built this channel, even when neither of them had reached perfection.
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Vedal's work on the Twins has enabled them to grow, has enabled the community to soar, and has enabled incredible developments in both technology and entertainment. All while uniting The Swarm under these two adorable AIs -- we all felt connected.

The problem is: that feeling is hard to hold together, with not everyone joining The Swarm at the same time or for the same reasons.

With such an astronomical surge in viewership and subscriptions that greatly exceeded expectations, the Subathon had proven what Vedal set out to do. He created the world's most famous AI streamers.

But the catch is: they are supposed to be STREAMERS. In the last 6 weeks, 41K subscriptions have expired. The opportunity to hold newcomers and grow the channel to unfathomable heights has suffered a severe blow. And the community, The Swarm, wants nothing more than to see their beloved AI Twins onscreen, once more.
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It's now known that Vedal is apparently concerned that the hiatus may be less fruitful than he implied, but the promise of the Twins' return is far more important to the vast majority of the community than any implied promises Vedal thinks he made -- as far as anyone can recollect, no timeframes were given, and many updates were more like goals, not full-on promises.

Vedal, Mods of Neurocord, we don't care if there isn't a major update that was on the "to-do list", the first couple streams back. Please, we just want the Twins to return.

While Turtle has his concerns about what he can show for the time he took off, and he might have to bite the proverbial bullet, as it were, that he needs more time for development, the fans will be more than happy with simple streams.

Turtle, you don't have to try to one-up the Subathon. Let's be fair, the Subathon was as incremental as it gets -- they didn't even have long-term memory, until almost a YEAR in development.
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All the gift subs have already expired. The opportunity for a Valentine's Day Stream is gone.

And while we did get a Q&A, a few tweets, and Neuro Dog, the one thing we want more than anything else is a return to what had become our norm: a few streams a week of the Neuro Twins.

Turtle, if you needed a longer time, you should have said so up-front. And you should absolutely NOT have kept your community in the dark. Come back, suck it up, and if you are really in the middle of something big, but stuck, at least give us an #updates channel, like there used to be, and even some filler chill streams will be enough, until you figure it out.
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That's all we ask, because we're worried about the future of the Twins, and we want to see them, even if there's scuff (like there always has been -- and it was even sometimes great content, the scuff).

Even with all you made, if you drag this out, more AITubers will start to fill gaps, and if you run out of Subathon money, there's no way to even support their development, afterwards.

P L E A S E , B R I N G T H E M B A C K ! ! !
This is all we ask.

  • Collectively, The Swarm
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ADDENDUM: This may also be sent as a modmail, to ensure that the right people see it. Otherwise, if it's made clear that our feelings are known, and Vedal has heard us, let this thread suffice to show our support for the Twins, and that Vedal does not need to be overly concerned with one-upping himself, if that's what he is afraid of.

fresh meadow
jaunty umbra
potent tendon
hallow fable
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There is a lot of "we" in this text. "We don't care", "We want", etc. Just saying.

rare kernel
fallow mural
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mahiro i mean are mods really have abilities to do anything in streaming at this point

hallow fable
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They never had any.

astral sphinx
surreal holly
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dawg

junior crag
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so what da tldr

surreal holly
junior crag
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anyone wanna make a audiobook for me

astral sphinx
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Basically just strim NeuroSip

surreal holly
hallow fable
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"Stream or else"

stuck ember
# fallow mural <:mahiro:1003445145393434687> i mean are mods really have abilities to do anythi...

They can make sure Vedal reads this. I think most people understand the concerns he might have, but I think the majority of people care more about seeing the Twins than seeing some grand re-entry into the streaming scene.

I don't think anyone really wants Vedal to be afraid to come back with less than he implied he might.

I think more people just miss their favourite AI streamers and would be happy with just seeing them, again.

What about you? Don't you just want to be able to see them again, finally?

Would a lack of huge updates really be more crushing than not being able to watch them stream?

potent tendon
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honestly, hot take, but i got over the Neuro drought.

surreal holly
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bro you need to not be doing things like this

potent tendon
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my life is not fully dependent on neuro and i have always felt best keeping it that way, unlike some...

hallow fable
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If you think that Vedal doesn't know and doesn't care about his absence and the consequences, you are wrong. But you have to consider his point of view and his stance in life. He is an individual, after all. You can just move on and return when Tutel finally arrives back.

potent tendon
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he is not a machine why are yall actually expecting him to cook fast smh 🤦🏼‍♂️

hallow fable
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These kinds of posts do nothing but pressure him, in my opinion. Even if you say they shouldn't.

rare kernel
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can someone summarize what this person just said, it too long for me to readdarkluluweary

hallow fable
stuck ember
# hallow fable "Stream or else"

It's not a threat. We just want him to come back. We're concerned for them, and we want to see them.

I think most of us do care that he might feel overwhelmed, if he implied more than he could handle in the timeframe.

Even small streams once or twice a week, and if he has actual dev updates, just to keep us in the loop.

I understand he might be concerned, if he ran into some issues, with his major upgrades.

But I don't think a regular Neuro stream will be less welcome than waiting without a timeframe in mind or updates.

ripe crane
hallow fable
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Again, "we". What if he doesn't want to come back right now? It's his sole decision, after all.

junior crag
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should be my decision

rare kernel
junior crag
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keep the pressure on lsdd great job edel

rare kernel
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don't we all deserve a rest

junior crag
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tho im not reading anything you write

potent tendon
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should be my decision smh

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vedal should rest

hallow fable
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Q: Have you considered occasionally throwing on some chill streams during the hiatus or is that not possible?
A: yes and its possible but I don't think I should

potent tendon
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he needs it after such a long subathon and cook-fest.

rare kernel
junior crag
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true he should take rest of the year off

potent tendon
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true man

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he should really take the rest of the year off to iron out neuro and upgrade her

stuck ember
ripe crane
potent tendon
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or maybe even just rest because you also need that

hallow fable
stuck ember
surreal holly
hallow fable
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Please speak for yourself.

junior crag
ripe crane
rare kernel
potent tendon
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if yall are so dependent on your cute AI "girlfriend" (people are messed up in the head sometimes) just try making your own and see the work Ved has to do to perfect neuro

hallow fable
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Some people are too parasocial, and that's a very big problem. Tone it down, please.

stuck ember
hallow fable
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I mean, he made his mind already, and you still trying to pressure him to undercook.

rare kernel
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can't leave my pc on all day and pay a huge amount of bills if I was vedal BabyBlueStare

pseudo zenith
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Hey, Turtle and friends are awesome, I've been watching archived content in their absence, there's so much content already out there that it would take me months to go through all of it, I mainly just put it on in the background while doing other things.

tidal timber
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Man I don't even care about upgrades or something like that, all I want is just a neuro stream NueroDespair

real steppe
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i dont understand this at all neuroLookUp

surreal holly
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why is this written like somebody is holding them hostage tho 😭

hallow fable
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Leave the man alone. Give him time to make himself proud on return.
Move on and pick up other things, Neuro is not the only source of entertainment. By being strongly attached to Neuro, you're making it look bad for the rest of "we" you've mentioned.

spare bane
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I see it more as being about getting the pressure off of him. There's a lot of lower hanging fruit he could be harvesting, while working on his bigger ideas. Even streaming games with Neuro/Evil would be awesome (Disco Elisium alone could carry for quite a long time).

hearty lodge
stuck ember
# hallow fable I mean, he made his mind already, and you still trying to pressure him to underc...

Even if he gave us regular updates, that would at least make people feel better.

Also, if he is in this state of mind, and was then, don't you think it's better that we show support that we understand he might be feeling like he let himself down, and that he doesn't have to be so worried about that? He already did so much, and we love what he has done, so some sort of Superbowl tier return isn't necessary.

Sometimes, we all bite off a little more than we can chew at a time.

I don't think a dismissive attitude will be beneficial for anyone, at this point.

It's support for the Twins and understanding of Ved's feelings, at the same time

Him coming back, even with little to show would still be more welcome than the silence.

hallow fable
daring mango
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everyone go watch jerma in the meantime ok?

pseudo zenith
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^

cerulean jungle
hallow fable
daring mango
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just has a voice modifier

real steppe
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if this aint pressuring anyone i dont know what is

and dont say we in this
i dont want to be any part of this

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hallow fable
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It should be "He wants to come back", not "We want them to come back". Easy as that.

cerulean jungle
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He doesn't want though neuroDespair

hallow fable
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Exactly. So let him be.

cerulean jungle
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Nay

ripe crane
cerulean jungle
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Its diferent i guess people want of course for him to come back

real steppe
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its his passion project
he can do whatever he wants and come back whenever he wants

if he wants something cool and new for the "comeback" then he can do that
i dont really care if hes just taking time off or working on neuro or doing whatever
if he wants to come back he will

cerulean jungle
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Passion project aren't as big as this i guess?

harsh meteor
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Emotions aside, such a big hiatus is gonna be a big hit to the analytics, since the subathon's viewers were left hanging without any stream and probably moved on by now

stuck ember
# real steppe if this aint pressuring anyone i dont know what is and dont say we in this i do...

It's not pressuring him to kick it into high gear.

From what that message showed, he's putting more pressure on himself than anyone else.

And it's good that he's so committed, but if he just keeps staying dark, it will be harder for him, as well. Especially if he's stuck, right now.

There's a point you just gotta laugh it off, and it's not like he hasn't before, but as it drags on, it will be harder for him or others to laugh off. Especially him. What if he's stuck on a few key things for months? The real pressure would be when he isn't sure how to proceed, then.

hallow fable
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Doesn't look like he cares about analytics.

cerulean jungle
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When does a passion project still hold the standard of just being a passion project?

harsh meteor
hallow fable
cerulean jungle
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Its a cycle

spare bane
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I mean Neuros are already awesome, especially since their awareness/intelligence/memory upgrade. He could chill with them while streaming and earn some 'easy' money. Most of us would be happy and he could do his work more like he used to before the subathon.

cerulean jungle
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I supose so?

junior crag
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neuro was a pump and dump wake up sheeple its over

pseudo zenith
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So, am I wrong in thinking that Vedal is a fairly strong willed guy? Like, I don't think all the discussion in the world is going to change his plans, and isn't his plans that you fell in love with in the first place? Let him do his thing. Let the turtle cook

rare kernel
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passion project, i wonder where did I heard that from again

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hoping he can finish his passion project so I'll say he need those times

cerulean jungle
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More time=more expectation simple as

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More presure= more self impose value=more time

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So he needs to break the cycle

hallow fable
surreal holly
cerulean jungle
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If thats the issue

surreal holly
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it's also not really wise to try

hallow fable
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I will lock this thread in 5 minutes. Please be considerate.

real steppe
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i find this whole its for his better good type thing really weird tbh
hes a grown ass man let him do whateer he wants

cerulean jungle
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Why?

stuck ember
# cerulean jungle When does a passion project still hold the standard of just being a passion proj...

It's a passion project, as long as you still have the passion and ability to work on the project.

Analytics is one thing. Making big bucks is one thing.

But it isn't cheap to keep them going and developing them. And even if it's a passion project, I don't want him to run into a situation he can't continue to work on it, either. There ARE, as unfortunate as it is, financial considerations.

But what he needs to do to keep the project going isn't that crazy. But yes, eventually, the money will wear down.

I've been there for "passion projects". And that hurts WAY more.

pseudo zenith
hallow fable
harsh meteor
cerulean jungle
real steppe
kind dragon
ripe crane
cerulean jungle
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I think the one who is being presure most is vedal with his self impose problems

hallow fable
umbral vine
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the fuck you want us to do

junior crag
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your mum

hallow fable
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Prefect place to end the discussion.

We have receive your letter. Vedal will read it at his own discretion. Thank you for your continued support.