#Need clarifications on the rules about art

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cursive aspen
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i'm saying this because "some" mods are using this blurry part of the rules to choose what is allowed or not using their personal visions.
The last example of this is the last neuro art who got bonked, he was in #1095941852068331560 since the 10th of october btw so it's clear that mods are not even focused/consistent on what they should ban or not.
I'm making this argument because this specifical art (who's "surprisingly" hinting that it's Vedal/a femboy guy despite being in unrelated art) didn't got banned
https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1197972086359064706

this art shows the exact same aspects as the neuro art who got banned :

  • exposed tummy
  • hand lifting a skirt
  • suggestive position
    the only difference being that it's a femboy and not Neuro

So clearer guidelines would be good to know what is allowed or not for EVERY arts

rocky atlas
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I'm kind of going through some stuff right now, can you hold off the drama aspects of this for like 1 week?

cobalt veldt
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arent there more staff members that can provide a response?

rocky atlas
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All right. I tried to help you.

cobalt veldt
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i dont see whats wrong

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you can still help even if its in one week

hallow field
somber agate
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Let me ramble a litle bit i guess. I know for certain that there is a rule specifically mentioning that panties aren't allowed and i did see It in full efect yet this piece right here contains it clearly. I don't need the rules to change i think they are fine mostly maybe a litle bit strict the thing i want is just consistency Sorry i'm carrying it over from NN

cobalt veldt
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everyone can share their opinion

uneven plover
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Okay I may be controversial but I don't think art rules need more consistency but that neuro arts need their own set of rules.
Some may find neuro suggestive art ok because she is an AI. Some may find it wrong because neuros avatar looks relatively young.

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Neuro is an enigma in that aspect

hallow field
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I think there's a bit of bias towards Vedal's suggestive art, since he's a turtle and all human personas of him people make are not "canon" or whatever.
My point is, while I understand why some arts with Neuro are not ok, I don't understand why we have double standards for pics like this

uneven plover
# uneven plover Neuro is an enigma in that aspect

Which is why I believe neuro arts should have some sort of their own guidelines because neuro depiction is much more "morally" complicated.
These guidelines would make neuro arts moderation more consistent while keeping rest of the arts untouched.

hallow field
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My comment here that quoted the rule 10.1 got blocked so I'll try again.
The server's rules do not say anything about suggestive content, only explicit nsfw and so on. There are also Discord's ToS but I can assure you there's been plenty of Neuro's explicit arts in the past (which would be nuked today in 5 seconds) that are still on and somehow do not break Discord's ToS

uneven plover
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Again, it comes down to neuro dilemma

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Some may find some neuro pieces acceptable while other not. It's not problem with art, it's problem with neuro art

cursive aspen
hallow field
uneven plover
uneven plover
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You either strike at the issue, or isolate whole area for everyone.

cobalt veldt
uneven plover
cobalt veldt
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Do they even explain to the artist what makes their art suggestive?

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Havent they noticed the complaints either? This is only mentioning the art problem, theres alot of problems left unsolved

real hawk
oak swallow
oak swallow
real hawk
uneven plover
cobalt veldt
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Also for mods/admins out there, please provide your own opinion, not a "after discussing with the staff team" opinion

uneven plover
serene ingot
cobalt veldt
oak swallow
cobalt veldt
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  • is nice to see the individual opinions of the mods
shut spruce
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it's overcomplicating
i agree with hjalnir, and maybe provide some guidelines on what is suggestive
like CJ said "suggestive pose, spread open legs, barely covering pelvis area skirt which doesn't cover most of the buttocks, open tummy"
these sort of guides can also be very helpful for mods deciding what to allow
we will have nothing to complain about if we clearly know what's allowed and what isn't

cobalt veldt
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and they can discuss it here, so we can know the thought process of what goes behind the scenes

uneven plover
shut spruce
uneven plover
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I simply think of all sides

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Does it work? Yes, but hurts some artist work in the process.

real hawk
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I think it's better if it applies to all artists rather than just negatively affecting Neuro artists specifically

uneven plover
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Well democracy will speak for itself ig

somber agate
uneven plover
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And I think this discussion may actually lead to solving this issue once and for all

oak swallow
cobalt veldt
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only vedal smh

serene ingot
somber agate
oak swallow
somber agate
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It seems that at the end it was suggestive

cobalt veldt
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nah, maybe another day

uneven plover
real hawk
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said as much

uneven plover
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As painful as it is he doesn't want to deal with this bullshit, and you can't blame him for it really neurOMEGALUL

oak swallow
serene ingot
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Seems that’s not gonna happen NeuroSip

uneven plover
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Because call me crazy but I'm pretty sure most riots came from problem with art moderation.

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So if issue will actually get solved once and for all, the server will live happily ever after

oak swallow
serene ingot
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The only riots have come from art moderation I don’t think there was anything else

shut spruce
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there was one about neurotic-neurons when it was extremely off-topic

uneven plover
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I'd say that's a miniscule issue

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And even that is better than it was in the past

lime ravine
shut spruce
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also lads try to keep this more on topic and less conversational so mods can actually read this neuroPray

uneven plover
lime ravine
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femboy vedal i think

real hawk
somber agate
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The art was the femboy one that marswatch chose to represent the thread

uneven plover
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Ah

somber agate
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And as i said before it seems that it was suggestive at the end

oak swallow
# uneven plover And even that is better than it was in the past

fair point, but i do believe there starts to appear an issue where mods are more extreme with their decisions like striaght up banning people for offenses that shouldnt've given a ban
(i dont want to go into detail because im not that knowledgable about this and i dont want to get bonked)

lime ravine
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This will be an endless cycle of them boinking a neuro art then people forcing them to boink a random femboy vedal art

uneven plover
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Yeah pretty much, balancing the scales

somber agate
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I mean true not the first time this happends

serene ingot
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I mean people losing bringing it up and complaining about it so they remove it NeuroSip

lime ravine
uneven plover
lime ravine
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if it was boinkable from the start then they should've boinked it from the start

somber agate
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We should'nt need to bring it up for it to get deleted (talking from experience)

uneven plover
somber agate
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Oh hi PB

lime ravine
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she is essaying

uneven plover
serene ingot
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Well there wasn’t an issue with it people just made it an issue because they were unhappy with neuro art getting bonked NeuroSip

somber agate
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Let her cook PauseSama

lime ravine
cursive aspen
uneven plover
oak swallow
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hey PB can you tell the other mods to discuss your thoughts with the entire community here and not in the #staff-chat? Someone asked it here

lime ravine
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Yeah, I don't really care about the subject but mod inconsistency is really annoying

hallow field
lime ravine
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Its the artists who are suffering not the mods despair

final lake
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For me, most of the arts posted were quite ok, but those pushing the rules should have been blurred with spoiler tag or sth
If in doubt, use the tag.

lime ravine
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imagine drawing for a whole day just to get your art deleted because some mod didn't like it

hallow field
somber agate
meager citrus
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acknowledged and understood neuro7
the rules will be adjusted to keep things more clear cut. more consistent moderation and less room for interpretation

uneven plover
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Straight to the point

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I like that

lime ravine
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Ain't no way she spent 10 min to write that

meager citrus
somber agate
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And when can we expect this stuff

meager citrus
uneven plover
meager citrus
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if thats okay, i will close the thread now

stuck ginkgo
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Nyooo PepeLaugh

serene ingot
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Nuro nwero

hallow field
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thanks for help PB, we appreciate it vedalHeart

oak swallow
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any objections to close the thread?

real hawk
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nwero neur

hallow field
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I'm fine personally

stuck ginkgo
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I love Neuro
I love Evil

uneven plover
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We got through so I think it's fine

somber agate
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At the end bnnuy neuroHypers

meager citrus