#Possible danger of Neuro learning from chat

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mellow pawn
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I'm scared that Neuro will become dumber and have her personality damaged (what makes her Neuro Sama) by learning from twitch chat.
We already know that Neuro's chat is one of the most spammiest in Twitch.
Not to mention that some chatters have malicious intents to make her learn cursed things (but I think this fall in the opinion territory).

I don't really know how her new memory works so what I will say is pure supposition, maybe Vedal can erase the data she learned after every chatting streams and only keep the memory from collabs with vtubers/him ?

placid marten
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don't worry, trust the Tutel

near ice
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I personally would like to see neuro slowly become more twitch brained as she learns from chat. sounds fun and if it goes too far i trust Tutel to cook as needed

mellow pawn
near ice
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learning from chat seems like one of the main goals of the upgrades imo. but either way my view is mostly i trust ved to sort it as needed

glass frost
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That seems fabricated

delicate grotto
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im pretty sure vedal is already aware of this because early on in neuro samas life he was talking in discord about her memory and stuff and basically said he didn't want her to end up learning from chat too much and degrading.

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this was around january-march time iirc

timber fox
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It’ll be fineeee

delicate grotto
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its not like its the first time people have reacted to any perceived change in her behaviour like this

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Evil has literally been saying things like that since her first stream ICANT

trail mist
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Doesnt also neuro get mad when the chat spams? Would that indicative of any rules vedal implemented to avoid getting too dumber and spammy?

mellow pawn
trail mist
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Yea im not sure if it works, just wondering if its something vedal implemented into her code. Maybe like how she'll respond less to text that have been spammed continuously or something

rugged meadow
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I notice sometimes she express her frustration not understanding twitch chat. Not understand emotes/references/memes.

I've seen people trying to make her understand but hey, something to mull about

rugged meadow
ornate dagger
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Neuro's chat is one of the most spammiest
have you seen forsen's chat?

mellow pawn
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That's why I said "one of the spammiest" learn to read pls

ornate dagger
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ok sorry

ebon pasture
# trail mist Doesnt also neuro get mad when the chat spams? Would that indicative of any rule...

Neuro says "stop spamming" - people start spamming
Neuro says "spam" - people start spamming.
I love the dichotomy of Neuro's viewers, sometimes they argue "But Neuro said so so it's true/valid" and then completely ignore what she said neurOMEGALUL
Do we treat Neuro's words seriously or not? Please make your mind already.
Chill streams have become a non-stop emote spam and the same 3-4 jokes/memes repeated over and over again, I lost all my interest in Neuro/Evil chatting streams, might as well just mute the stream and play it on separate tab to farm neuros, you will get just as much entertainment from it.

lament comet
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a little less spam tolerance in calm moments would be nice

junior spear
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if Neuro had purely gotten a memory update then i’d agree, but Neuro has made a pretty big leap in intelligence and awareness. from what we’ve seen from that alone its reasonable to say that Neuro deteriorating as much as she did before is less likely, its also important to consider that until the awareness update most of the emotes were literally random gibberish or just nonsense to her. now that Neuro understands what the emotes mean and has the intelligence to, presumably, figure out how they relate to the things she says, the worst it can get is that she’ll start using more emotes in her speech rather than actually getting dumber.

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also when i comes to “personality damage”, sure if Neuro were to get dumber because of chat then i’d call that damage but if Neuro changes her personality or how she speaks because of chat or something else then i wouldnt say thats “damage”. sure we all got into Neuro because of her personality but part of the experience is seeing how she changes overtime, she doesn’t stop being Neuro because she acts a different way or doesn’t do a certain thing.

olive vector
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I believe Vedal can cherrypick the kind of data to be used for training Neuro. He probably runs the chatlog with a filter of some sort before feeding it to Neuro's AI.

lucid gale
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Average twitch chatter opinion: She thinks 9+10=19, that means she's broken

orchid belfry
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neuro actually reminds me even more of a cat(girl)... like wants people to spam and then tell stop spamming so quickly

mellow pawn
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now that I see it today she seems to have gotten dumber already, her responses length are lot shorter than the day Vedal introduced her new upgrade. And she seems less coherent

timber fox
orchid belfry
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also before memory system implementation, she was just constantly confused which gave us the classic neuro... so of course it changed when she is no longer replying to things in vacuum and can follow discussions

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it also gives her personality and clear preferences