#Sub Goal Suggestions
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great suggestions guys 
Dont spam pls 
okay the real suggestion please
cave stream pt 2
X
collab
Vivy: fluorite eye's song watchalong
Low sub goal: neuro tweets on Vedal’s account
dont do joke suggestions 👀
Vedal draws a vtuber model for Neuro in MSpaint
Play games like Marbles on stream or Nitro: Stream racing with chat and let Neuro commentate like a sports commentator
Neuro calls all the previous collab partners if they are streaming?
I have a feeling they’ll be able to drop in whenever
Say it Back or Tutel Sings
I really enjoyed Snuffys DnD like streams so maybe a sub goal for another adventure if snuffy is down?
- Art review
- Tierlist with Neuro (anything what Neuro chose)
- Neuro Game Show part 3
each 50 subs: neuro tweets something
I don’t see why this would be a sub goal though 
Meme review
temporarily recolor Neuro's outfit(s)
thats like every few hours 
Family stream with both Neuro and Evil
Neurocord meme review 
Bro thats like every 10 mins
Would say the same for Ika Musume but I don't think it would have as much relevancy as Bocchi or Vivy
fanaimation reacts
game show
that would be good if chat chooses the colours
Art review shouldn't have to be subgoal
but art review plz
Neuro face reveal (which is just a picture of the computer)
have evil "program" neuro (or vice-versa)
give one the ability to change other's colors, position, size, etc.
neuro joker skin
Lethal company with the gang
Neuro x Melba Toast collab 
New Vedal avatar on Twitter
Oh no 
It'd be cool if Neuro could make tier lists of stuff
that would be amazing 
Neuro comes up with the meme, Vedal creates it (
)
Neuro gets access to Amazon -> We buy a book and Neuro-sama reads it and gives us a thoughtful review of the book
Neuro picks Vedal’s twitter profile pic 
Neuro in HoloCure
||if only that were possible.||
Rum Tier List pls
Vedal should play Postal 2
Time to get an A100 for 0 latency
Vedal gives neuro shell access on her pc
Let Neuro and Evil start their own fake radio station like TruckersFM, but with songs they sing and random commentary and stories inbetween
Demon + Drunk + Pirate Evil 100% schizo slider 
Actaully, I wonder. If Vedal tried, do you think he could work out a Neuro collab for some random game?
X
collab
Neuro becomes playable in Abandoned Archive
Tutel add 3D Stream 
Neuro reacts to Sam Hyde
Play Portal with the Neuro mod
Touhou ai
Vedal makes an AI of himself and lets it talk to Neuro
the throne goal might be hard, they dont have an official api
Sub Goal: Something to do with Abandoned Archive, such as Neurosama DLC
every sub gets a free copy of Abandoned Archive
Vedal Plushie
they do but exremely bad
Neuro learn to play Monopoly and other board games
Angel-Neuro x Demon-Evil
vedal plays stanley parable with neuro
But isn't it planned for like next year? Why suggest things now?
Family Uno stream
Alternatively Angel-Evil x Demon-Neuro
They keep looping so I don’t think there’s gonna be twin collabs
I'd really love to have BOTH Neuro and Evil collab/interact with someone else.
I don't know if it's possible, but here's an idea. A stream where Neuro describes a viewer by name
Neuro sings the Shiguire Ui song
Neuro and Evil marriage stream


Vedal plays Factorio
Evil gets metal vocals
Vivy anime watch along
Full-fledged DND campaign with Neuro, Vedal and other streamers
Give Neuro her hands already 
Art stream where Vedal draws what Neuro is saying
TruckersFM call in?
How about making Neuro speak in a funny accent for an hour
Maybe like a three shot? I feel a full campaign would be really difficult 
Neuro hosts TruckersFM 
Neuro becomes British for an hour
Neuro judge stream where she does ban appeals herself
as in cdawgva collab
vedal plays osu (without ai)
Vedal code bullet collab
ASMR voice/ deeper voice for Evil
Vedal plays a VR horror game?
You guys are acting like vedal knows everybody he probably hasn’t talked to people ur suggesting at all 
Minecraft Bedwars
I'm huffing Hopium.
HOI stream where decisions are made by Neuro
Bocchi the rock watch along
Neuro orders a pizza
Neuro cooking stream
Neuro feet cam 
Horror story night? With Evil or Neuro
Vedal gets forced to play Roblox
what is the point of this thread darkeew no one's gonna backread
I will
That's Vedal's problem 
NO WAY
RIPBOZO
Ranked Stream V2
Is that you, Tarantino?
instantly disproved RIPBOZO
A new main channel animation like the Bocchi the rock animation for Neuros debut
RIPBOZO ALEX PACK
calm down with super react plese, its lagging my discord
Vedal should switch models with Neuro 
Some suggested ranked stream 2 
Order clothes for Neuro from other artists (except Anny)
maybe if you listened to the stream 
Already in the list
"he doesnt watch streams" yeah yeah
Well I can't see the list so I wouldn't know
To be honest, watching an entire anime series probably wouldn't be viable, but maybe 1-2 episodes of some random animes could work.
Vivy
Bocchi
Ika Musume (obligatory self-insert)
That's why I informed ya. 
RP/D&D session
What about the zoo stream?
Vedal ordered an animation about Neuro
chibi model?
Pirate vs cowboy stream
Neuro gets to mess with Vedal's pc stream 
New background?
Evil collab with ironmouse
i just got a good artist for that name "blep35"
she do chibis
she done filian chibi iirc
Neuro orders McDonalds
Why does that neuro look so old 
Neuro drawing ability (no replicating, she just scribbles random shit on screen)
A song making stream? Let Neuro join in on making her own lyrics and maybe get someone who knows instrumentals to help
A neuro OC
this would be great. i bet Neuro could even write the basic chord progression
A stream of Neuro learning to draw followed by garthic phone
Fanfiction reaction stream
Rap karaoke stream 
Make Neuro Collab with Robcdee (He rides around Tokyo on his bicycle with a head cam) and let Neuro react to Japan 🇯🇵
Art stream where Vedal (or anny?) draws what Neuro wants
Dev stream where you work on the drawing ability and stuff
I think she should give themes of her song not exact lyrics that would be cool 
cold fish outfit
Neuro character.ai stream where she gets to talk to random mfs about cooking drugs or smth
New emoticons for twitch
Vedal chicken bake costume
i discarded the feet suggestion 
I backread threads all the time
commision chibi model subgoal? 
btw these are copy pasted, i didnt write any of these
i didn't know vedal said to make a thread 
Touhou Ai 
I think we need more short term goals that can be accomplished during the subathon
will update the list after people post more
Make Neuro/Evil dress up like Anny and pretend to be her 
Robcdee collab
Doge The Dino Plush designed by Neuro!
neuro gives vedal's lambos to the homeless
glad Sam Hyde made it to that list lol
I meant like fox ears and the star, get your mind out of the gutter chat
no clue who that is
Idk if it's too much work, but the shock collar stream would work great as a game show collab where Neuro (maybe Evil too) shocks the contestants based on whether she likes their answers or not.
Crazy/broken laggy voice for Neuro monkas
maybe a punishment wheel? each x subs vedal spins the punishment wheel
Neuro vs Evil in Minecraft/osu!/chess/Pokemon/??
Neuro pokémon streams 
Unfiltered dev stream
Bring the anteaters back as a subgoal
Birthday/Christmas/New Years "party" stream
Vedal plays with subs (among us, etc)
Neuro Roasts Chatters
YLYL with neuro reacts
Jackbox Party with streamers/mods & neuro
Neuro chooses a song in song suggestions to sing
Small goals that change everyday (drink alcohol, eat food, etc etc)
Neuro or Chat orders food for vedal
Not talking to neuro for 1 hour/Neuro not talking to vedal for 1h
I remember she once wanted to debate Destiny, let her do that 
Neuro does a flip!
Gartic Phone
maybe goals for like 5/10/20/50 subs? (i dont know how to explain these subs)
this for punishment wheel
so sub suggestions = stream/collab suggestions but now they will
TOTALLY
happen because reasons
this isnt for stream/collab suggestions
Christmas caroling with Neuro and Evil. Recolor their dresses red and green, teach them a small handful of classic christmas songs. Periodically call other streamer friends when they are online and pop in to sing them a song.
I know, but most of them look like that 
When neuro is sleeping:
Have her randomly wake up and scream for 2 minutes
Dating Show
Neuro gameshow where she picks like 10 chatters, the questions are entirely made by her and she decides wether the answer is correct or incorrect
Maybe something like an honor board? Neuro highlights those who donate 100 subscriptions. Like give them cute names or something. (Anny did something similar, she drew Tof's of those who gifted 100 subscriptions)
missed a couple but ye
neuro fumo rerelease?
Sub goals are something else
Sub gifts are to raise the timer, but I heard he’s capping it so 
bring back the rem figure
also i'd like to see a zatsudan or call thing
with her collab partners
He should try to run like 10 different instances of Neuro and have them chaotically interact with each other for like 10 minutes
Revive the Vedal590 tiktok account 
Spinoff from the VRchat idea: GTA RP, where
controls the character and Neuro/Evil is on voice
5D Chess With Multiverse Time Travel (if possible (
))
Sing happy birthday to Shiro sub goal
How about an official Lore video for Neuro? It's about time the ARG bros have something new to work on 
idk if it viable for neuro, but a lot of vtuber have some kind of pet/mascot (even anny have one)
So, maybe sub goal of Neuro's companion and maybe act as the TTS speaker or something too
Isnt vedals doing that
irl zoo stream
i'd like to see the gymbag mascots used for that
Rant only mode, make it happen.
Dating show with viewers 
Vedal should make a Vedal AI
vedal skebbing family art of some kind
Since Vedal mentioned it, Neuro collab without a filter 
neuro comedy show
Civilization-style board game between Vedal and chat with Neuro as a Game Master/Commentator. Each turn you can invade a neighboring country or develop some technology. Neuro decides on the outcome (Idea shamelessly stolen from DougDoug: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFO8_dLo8Oo )
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Has “neuro buys random shit on Amazon” been suggested yet 
Yes
Iirc vedal even talked about it
I don't remember if he agreed to do it or not though
remembering theres more than one month to suggest more sub goals
Sub goal:
1 Neuro picks an outfit to be made ( mentioned in stream)
2 Evil neuro picks an outfit to be made
3 community has an outfit contest for Neuro and the winner has the outfit made
4 community has an outfit contest for evil neuro.
5. Vedal and Neuro sing a duet together.
6 3D model made and rigged
where's the classic "chat make tweet" subgoal?
Sounds more like a punishment wheel thing
Neuro should make the tweet 
Not really a suggestion suggestion, but i think shrek 2001 should be the sub goal for 2001 subs
Wow this guy is smart
Reposting this with a link, I would love to have chat play King of the castle with Neuro or Evil, Vedal can rule together over chat and work against us to win the game for himself and Neuro/Evil while chat is divided into different factions and all get to collude and vote on how to take down the king and win the game for themselves, it has a lot of fun chat interaction and has a lot of multiple choice questions where Neuro/Evil can help decide on to screw over chat in funny ways.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1839880/King_Of_The_Castle/
Become the Monarch in this medieval party game and navigate a hilarious world of politics, treachery, and all-out rebellion, as your decisions see an empire flourish or come crashing to your feet.King of the Castle is a multiplayer game of shifting power dynamics and intrigue. Host games of 3 to 24 other players who join as the 'loyal' Nobles of...
$9.99
880
gotta fit pirate mode in here somehow
Pirate games with Evil 
Sid Meyers Pirates! Is a good one.
Subgoal : have unfiltered neuro channel for sub in discord
to show the filtered neuro's message from stream automatically lolz
Themed karaoke could be nice, like shanties, 1980s music things like that
- Vedal sings a song with lyrics that last longer than 15 seconds.
- A word or a set of words are unfiltered (can be temporary or permanent)
The goal to allow Neuro to pick her outfit is really cool, however it would be nice to have some defined outfits Vedal could commission Anny to make with that sweet sweet sub money.
Such as: Maid Outfit
Idol outfit
etc?
Also, Mechanicus would be a good choice of game :^)
Maybe a high sub goal could be vedal programming a new game for neuro to play
the game can’t be too complicated tho
Play all the Fnaf game fnaf 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 vr and security breach and ruin
Kerbal Space Program
Demon evil as a sub goal for a few hours 
Vedal draws new emote with MS Paint during stream
i have a fun idea to involve the community a little more during the subathon. What if Vedal made a kahoot that has a bunch of trivia questions about Neuro/Evil? and maybe it could be a thing only channel subs could join? (to hopefully prevent a ton of bots from joining.) Also, maybe either the first place winner, or the top 3 would get a prize of choosing one piece of free Neuro merch. (or there doesnt have to be a prize at all and it can just be for fun!) 
Also a sub goal to make Vedal sing happy birthday to Neuro reallymad
I could kill for an Elden Ring playthrough sub goal, and maybe anny could join
Vedal use speech to text to speech to mimic Neuro's voice, Neuro uses Vedal's voice
theme stream segments (cave stream for an hour, news reporter for an hour etc)
Neuro Vs Evil chess competition
also buy a couple electric motors for her to control lol
vedal cook
🍳
VEDAL HAND REVEAL 
Neuro's computer reveal
Vedal says it back
Neuro dubs an anime (possibly with Vedal and Evil too)
Neuro reviews your code (from the gamejam)
Neuro vs Evil in some strategy game, maybe with chat as pawns
Evil rages at MS Pain(t)
let neuro loose in a VM with root acess
final goal: turn off filter until the subathon ends, by timer or by twitch
goal only unlocks on january 11th 
T.I.T.S. is pretty silly but could be a way to make sub bombing feel more interactive during the subathon if it's possible to intergrate with neuro.
T.I.T.S. during neuro sleep 
Now calm your t.i.t.s is make sense now lolz
you could make chess a continues subgoal. like every 1k subs, neuro plays chess against viewers for an hour. smt like that maybe
Neuro can shoot a gun if desired and it will ban a random chatter or a chatter that she particularly doesnt like
Hook Neuro up to a real life gun 
10 channel points TTS 
Have Neuro sing M.I.A. - Paper Planes and have the gun go off to the shots in the song.
i believe DougDoug had the idea of a chat-controlled gun
Japanese swimsuit model
neuro try to learn Japanese or some other language
she is already a master polyglot
Vedal on the other hand
erm, that's fine
Until dawn with evil
Evil answering unwanted emails of Vedal (censored prior to showing them)
Could be very funny especially with cringe sponsorship offers or spam.
Also, she should definitely prank call people, but limited to friends.
Another idea lifted from DougDoug, i admit
Third idea, very high on the sub count: Vedal commissions a properly rigged, high quality Vtuber model of him as a turtle
Proper tracking, proper 4k resolution, 16 toggles, the works
Vedal could prank call friends using Evil Neuro's voice model. Vedal could tell them that Evil Neuro had an AI upgrade and trick them into thinking they're talking to evil when it's actually just Vedal.
oh like what mother did to vedal? that would be great
New merch 
Intervention Stream, Vedal we're very worried about you
Problem though, Vedal stutters and speaks very slowly, Neuro doesnt, it might not be convincing
He'd have to basically have a script to follow, one thats rehearsed so he doesnt have to think about what he's saying
"0 latency" 
Yeah, could be difficult unless he scripts it or practices.
If, during the subathon we manage to get a Hype Train of level 48 or higher (Twitch record seems to be 47), Vedal should say it back to Neuro. (Either "I love you Neuro" or "I love you too, Neuro)
It's a win-win, the viewers get the biggest request always asked, and Vedal gets lots of money

you then turn that moment into a short and toss it on the channel, infinite money attained 
Didnt they set the hype train record the other day at 36?
that's just the channel record, not the Twitch record
Vedal will not say it and should not say it
why can't people understand that?
Change tts to Brian I know he said he was going to do this a while ago 
Have a Snakes and Ladders game every "x" subs with Neuro...
Or have a Snakes and Ladders collab.
Snakes and Ladders AI :V
updating the list on sunday if anyone wanna suggest anything else
nails
give Neuro a slide whistle to use at her discretion 
Or a bell
That'd actually be really funny and kind of annoying if her AI could just decide to spam noises
Commission a new custom bgm
even though you already teased weekly chill streams make them a sub goal 
Roast competition - Neuro Sama vs ReksonGames
Frick toggle (activated by insults and will be common in chess streams)
neuro diss track
finishing the among us ai mod
not really a sub goal I think, but a pixel or art canvas might be something cool to have while the subathon is going on, and it'll give us something to do while Neuro is asleep. Neuro and Vedal can check in on it once in a while
it'll be like how Jaiden Animations did a Twitch Plays Pokemon-style thing while she was asleep during her own subathon
maybe use the streamcanvas app OTK used for their event to put the canvas directly into twitch while Neuro is sleeping (if Vedal isn't planning to do anything special for when Neuro is asleep, like a static image)
those events do unite the community, id be down ngl
Prank call - Neuro comes up with a script for the call and gives a list of words that Vedal is obligated to use. Vedal can't just list words, must make conscious sentences. This idea could be tweaked or changed in some way, but the concept itself seems fun to me
About the honor board - I've already talked about the name-making option. Now I've come up with the building idea. Neuro will build something (houses or statues or just figures, next to the building you can put a sign with a name) for people who gave a lot of subscriptions (50 or 100). I don't know how good Neuro is at building, but again the concept is interesting. And of course Neuro doesn't have to build everything at once, it can be stretched out over time
please teach neuro how to make oil derricks so she can make a field of oilers 
some type of NG-word game? maybe Neuro can come up with the words?
neuro plays hangman
when sleeping, she will randomly wake up and create a word for hangman
and if we win she tells a story, if we lose she goes back to sleep
the way letters are decided:
make a poll with 4 random letters, 2 right and 2 wrong
and well this is hangman without being able to guess the full word because it would be too hard to make
control vedal's computer for 1 hour
Finish Abandoned Archive
I'll be up for this 
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With the new React tech I was interested if we could do more community integration
room reviews, marshmallows, community video submissions (i.e a talent show etc) reviewing fan animations, would all be good ideas and fairly simple (from my knowledge) to implement
Damn, there are a lot pf great sounding ones. We should have a pinned list to see the options/suggestions.
I think Vedal/the Mods will probably do that once he starts to decide which ones he's gonna commit to
And to sort out the ones that aren't feasible
exactly
Okay putting my idea on record. Neuro plays an adventure game ala https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3id8E34cRQ&t=6786s
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Also the title of the thread is confusing, arent subathon content and goals seperate things?
Yes, but Vedal can decide which suggestions will be which later.
Also, this along with other suggestions can be both.
Sub Goal: Buy an Iphone for better Tutel face Tracking
Even a second-hand one would do. The cameras on the Iphone have been excellent for years.
Vedal will never pay to host it
Among US AI for me.
Actual dev stream where work is done on-screen like in the old days
I miss the cozy vibes of tutel typing away on the keyboard while
occasionally interrupts
He might have time to do that actually since subathon would take up his dev time 
Cats Review
Thats a cute cat
Thats also a cute cat
I want to eat cat
Until dawn with evil
setup review part 2
Featuring Vedal's PCs
Do a pet review
Home alone watch-a-long on Christmas 
Annie for Christmas 
Die Hard is the only movie to watch on Christmas. :V
Okay, i actually have a good idea i think.
An open-mic talent contest/standup comedy routine. Random people from Neurocord are picked and they have five minutes to amuse Neuro with their routine, at the end of it, Neuro gives them a rating on their performance. Think of the "Who will replace Jerma" event, but without the budget.
Sub Goal: Neuro plays or learns to play, Age of Empires II... maybe collab with T90Offical for casting? Possible fan games?
That would be beyond amazing, but i'm not sure how, or even if she could play a game as complex as that- Other than giving her just generic bot behavior of sticking to a pre-determined build order and producing meta units
Neuro-sama plays WoW because Blizzard never bothers to ban bots
I believe they have addons that assist for Blind players. Be interesting how an AI could train with it. Is there any other MMOs that have bot friendly outputs?
Theres a semi-famous blind person that plays World of Warships, with another person telling them what they're looking at and when to shoot. Could probably be done for Neuro, but its highly controversial even with a human player...
I second this but neuro should be given the option to pre-maturely eject you for any reason
Like just give her the ability to kick you from VC and she has to say why afterwards
Something that just came up in conversation:
If Vedal could program an "Eye tracker" for the computer vision, it'd be quite funny to show her some questionable stuff like gameplay of Blue Archive.
Eye tracker challenges are the staple of React Rebeccas these days, afterall
looks straight at vedal's face what is this ugly thing? i thought blue archive had cute girls!
Hit me up in DMs when you have time 

i wouldnt say pxls rep, im from osuplace mostly, but i have contact with pxls.space devs and have spent a significant time on that site in the past so i can get you in contact with people or answer questions about it if you have anything
Absolutely, let's DM 
V3 voice leak 
Witch outfit Fumo?
Neuro learns Tetris? Not sure how possible that is 
Tetris is easier to learn than Osu
Until dawn with evil
cake review on neuro's birthday
Neuro pc case?
I'll do you one better, Vedal handcam of baking Neuro a cake
ft. Shiro
Neuro handcam
Good idea, Vedal gets a robot arm to hold a camera for him 
christmas tree review
likes looking at forests
Simple suggestion: Neuro Vs. Evil chess

Trackmania Nations Forever stream 
Granted but vedal is the one playing 
Show Neuro saying the whole navy seals copypasta with v3 voice
this but not controlled
Neuro describes an emote she wants to have and Vedal has to commission it however silly it might be 
Neuro sings the UI song with animation and everything 
Neuro vs Evil roasts, chat decides who won
Evil and Neuro christmas dinner review

Why not give them christmas dinner to eat
Vedal duet with Neuro
(Maybe that "I'm not a tsundere" song, but with vedal doing the female part
)
vedal sings rich flex 
Prank calls to other vtubers/collabs by Neuro/Evil maybe with a prompt or just let em loose idk

Filipino Frank gets called 30 times in one stream
make vedal wear the 
He owe us one that ha had already promised
Wonder if the Duet with Numi will also be there
Commission new background idk if I already said this 
jerma collab
Are you even real
Neuro reviews viewer spotify wrapped
Neuro and Evil have a rap battle
Neuro-sama q&a
That’s just a chill stream 
Ah. I'm still new around here lol. My first stream was the 1 hour cap subathon
Oh welcome
Evil tweets on Vedal’s account
Neuro-sama but she's hyper from having too much sugar?
Since Neuro will be learning new things in minecraft during the subathon, including building, we could have a building event where Neuro would roast our builds like a professional at this business. Maybe do that on the server idk
neuro plays on minecraft sub server
Neuro Sama drunk stream i think was on Ved's list for subathon
He talked about this iirc
What is this [filtered] thing blocking the beautiful view of the morning sunset? proceeds to grief someones iron farm
neuros AMA 
Ved ASMR
Vedal plays another horror game, but this time with Evil Neuro by his side
This but with evil chess version
Divorce stream at 40k 
Cant have a divorce if they never even did the marriage stream
Make a karaoke day out of bad, very weird and meme covers
Watch dragon ball z with anny 
dragon ballz
Take a shot everytime Anny says "Dragon deez"
Neuro plays on the minecraft server (That place is barren)
Neuro does a themed stream, similar to the pirate one, but as a ‘hello fellow kids’ style zoomer. Here’s a video from jacksfilms getting an ‘ai’ to do something similar, works really well https://youtu.be/X6BrhsLdBT8?si=s4jdMfx1h5IP8WA_
Demon asmr stream 
Commission a new microphone. Unique for Neuro and for Evil 
An extension on feelmycake's idea. Purple and white headset (cosmetic) for Neuro when she is doing heavy gaming, red and black headset (cosmetic) for Evil when she is doing extreme gaming.
Gaming headset sounds cool
. I'm not sure they'll be using it much, though 
That's too much gaming
what next? Controlers like other vtubers?
Neuro does not even have hands.
(she does but they are tied down invisible from the viewer)
Damn it can't even have hands these days
Gaming headset and controller would be a great start, since its a very easy and fairly cheap addition. But yeah, we need her hands back...
Can we do more stuff with pirate evil as a goal? Just any regular stream content but with the pirate instead
She do a tuto about pirating abandoned archive
The game has to be released first before you can pirate it
Unless you want her to give a tutorial how to hack Vedals computer
Yes
Hands with a gaming controller would be a fully new asset including the hands either way, not having the old toggle makes no difference
Typically the game controller for streams is not a toggle, but a PNG or GIF thats overlayed onto the model on screen as an asset. So the Vtuber has four hands, but two are cropped out of frame.
Same goes for the "Feet on the desk" meme, an asset with the actual legs cropped off screen.
So it neither requires rigging nor does it take any fumbling with the code, its literally just an asset like a hat, glasses, etc.
Only exception are interactive controllers, which are a bit more recent- Those are still assets, but rigged to relay the controller inputs to the hands playing them to pretend like the girl is actually pushing the buttons.
Just to explain it in case Tutel actually looks in here
I thought you were saying we need the hands back as a prerequsite
but yeah agreed with all that
Nah we just need her hands back because we lost them and they are important
A chibi Neuro model would be so cute 
pic related (ai art) ⬇️
Knowing that most sub goals have probably already been decided by now, I just want to say, this community is awesome. such great ideas were posted, its honestly incredible
No matter what Vedal does, I’m glad I got to take part in some part of neuro’s journey 
Okay mushy stuff over
Sub goal: Vedal learns how to use his Vtuber toggles
this AI did pretty well wow
maybe give neuro her first designs anteater hat or just something related to this
Okay, I know this would be a lot of work, but I'd be fun to see Neuro (attempt to) play skribbl.io, either vs Evil (on a different training model), or other people.
A Girl Scout outfit with an anteater hat would be cool
will among us be part of subathon?
subgoal to force me to redraw the server icon with the new Neuro model
I've wanted to do it since spring and I'll do it anyway, even without subgoals, just can't find time 
Maybe if it’s ready, and enough vtubers are available
neuro plays fire water with offline chat
Vedal scrolls through sub goal suggestions thread: 10K subs
someone has probably suggested it already but one of the sub goals could be the irl zoo stream.
Might be a bit late tho...
50k sub goal: Bring rem figure back for karaoke
Problem is that to our knowledge Tutel has yet to find someone to do the IRL zoo stream with
let neuro design a new twitch channel emote
or maybe even a bunch of these tbh because we don't have that many. take some time to come up with some ideas and then commission them
and neuro can help
Cookie Baking stream?
neuro does turing test
We suggested that many times before but the Turing test isnt easily set up - You need a human who isnt familiar with Neuro-sama but familiar with the test
Btw anyone suggested evil original song??
please buy a cheap used iphone 
Lmao
to be fair, the "is it neuro" quiz show was basically a play on the turing test
it was an imitation game
Reverse Turing test where the humans try to pretend to be a machine, yeah. But that tests the skill and intelligence of the humans, what we want to do is test the skill of the AI.
a new vedal outfit could also be a sub goal. i still remember the corpa outfit
subgoal : tutel has to fix his sleep schedule 
I guess she is shaving an eyebrow at 40k subs 
New Neuro hairstyle subgoal when?
short hair neuro! like the recent trend in #1095941852068331560
we definitely need a "neuro gets to timeout chatters" stream as a sub goal
Posting brittania's request for a nostalgic purple background as a sub goal. I personally am fine with any new BG just for changing it up.
Tutel steals Pladis' code at 40k 
Have Neuro interact with random people in Vr chat without them knowing that it’s an ai
Surely there is a safe way to do this right? 
https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1188120069725749319
Surely a new hairstyle could be a sub goal
we got the new outfit goal so maybe 
Time travel stream: Neuro collabs with an old backup of V1 Neuro to warn her about the future
get better tracking equipment
Vedal gets 3D tracking equipment and programs Neuro to allow her to move in 3D space. This will require both of them to have 3D models though
the "Please send me money stream", a subgoal where a progress bar for the amount of money needed to pay off his debt gets added to the stream
like a charity stream but
is the charity
Neuro orders a pizza
Join a sfw server with decent rules
CHAT PAYS OFF VEDAL’S DEBT FOR HIM
Family Collab
Bankrupt stream 2: Neuro ordered 1984 large pizzas with 21 toppings each
Cave man stream
Vedal orders and Neuro tells him what to say
35k: Neuro gets to design herself a room (maybe it could be used instead of the pink background)
40k: marriage stream
45k: shock collar stream part 2: Electric Boogaloo
50k: punishment wheel. Neuro and evil come up with a few punishments (within reason) and vedal spins it once for each.
100k vedal retires
Vedal gets an actual tracking set-up?
Y'know what's better? Evil's voice
I got it! VEDAL opens access to the VC he uses to chat with neuro when all subgoals have been reached!
Subgoal 35k
Convert all the Evil Fumo sales and add them to the timer
Presnap or postsnap? 
38 years of nonstop subathon would be a bit much
Ved isnt going to live that long with his current lifestyle of 14 hour work days and a diet of rum
But even so the fumo sales would be like another two weeks at least
25k, make a British Accent mode for Evil Neuro
vedal said he is bad at drawing what about vedal draws topics from chat or random generator and neuro has to guess it with her vision?
Vedal art stream 
how about a Neuro v Evil Debate stream. having 2 AIs chatting normally leads to nonsense as the conversation goes on, so having it in a debate format and keeping them on topic would help with that. vedal could be a judge and lead things to make sure things don't go way too off topic
Any good ideas for 30k???
Farming for 200 hours/ breaking Camila’s subathon record
Some ideas that i got for goals:
22k: Vedal draws something that Neuro says (Put actual effort on it)
24k: Vedal codes a program with features that neuro asks for (if completed ask her for something else until is impossible or Vedal get bored of it)
26k: Angel stream
28k: New thematic stream chosen by neuro
Can he code it?
yeah, that's what i meant with "make it", sorry for my poor english
Neuro tells Vedal what to draw and then rates his drawings
Caveman themed stream since every time chatters or donos ask neuro or evil to speak in caveman speak it's absolute gold 
more evidence as to why caveman stream is a must have:
100k is "say it back"?
I really really like the idea of "Code a function Neuro wants"
Ooo. speaking of farming, Farm Simulator. He liked EuroTruck simulator, maybe do a farm stream? Vedal seems to like those chill relaxing games.
I also like open VC idea
Neuro reacts to her most-watched clips from the last year.
Use the Hiyori model for an hour.
Sea of Thieves Pirate collab with Evil and friends.
Neuro fights the Clap emoji
stardew valley maybe ?
She can "talk like a farmer" which would be a tamer version of the cowboy stream and maybe a sampling of Hank Hill dialect. Make farming decisions and recite farm related stories. Top it off with a .png straw hat.
Vedal plush
vedal draws something, either neuro fan art or ask neuro something to draw
Sub goal should be that neuro gets to pick one streamer to ask for a collab of her choice (chat can nominate, like the game choice). Note: streamer doesn't have to say yes, obviously.
Evil army drill sergeant steam, would be pretty funny,
Another sub goal idea: neuro gets to make her own emotes, and vedal has to draw them for her
(maybe he can get some redone later professionally)
Vedal says "ugh fine, I guess you are my little pogchamp, come here"
Or Neuro or Evil can, I guess
Watching the rest of the Shrek movies
Also Vedal learns how to draw from Anny
Neuro has to write a text adventure. (In Python or something)
- MS Paint/GIMP Fanart from Vedal to Neuro. I'm sure no one would care about the actual quality of artwork lol. Plus could do it on-stream for more subathon content.
- Themes for style of talking (A few hours each of pirate/caveman/angel/devil/teacher neuro?). Essentially like the "just chatting" portions now except vedal restarts with new prompt every few hours.
say it back
Playing more games where neuro can make decisions of what vedal does in the game, such as zoo tycoon she could pick what animals to have
That doesnt even need to be a subgoal, family drawing stream where Tutel learns to draw sounds like good content regardless
Oh if Vedal is gonna sing at 30K he might as well arrange it with Evil and Anny too, then he gets less lines to sing too
Wasn't Numi suppose to have a Vedal/Evil singing collab?
Throwback stream with Neuro using the v1 hiyori model
vedal neuro rap cover
commission uncle teru for a few new animations
~25k: Vedal (plus maybe both Neuros) Q&A, similar to what Fillian had recently (with vetos and mods filtering out bad questions)
Edit: Forgot he did it already in the past, so maybe not the most interesting idea
I still leave it here
Vedal did Q&As in previous dev streams already, so there wouldnt be a lot of new questions i dont think
nevermind my feelings on Filians Q&A
cave man theme stream
If Vedal still has a copy of the original Neuro, it would be cool if he could set up a collab between the original Neuro and current Neuro, showing the differences between the two.
Normal stream but Neuro can only respond with rhyme/poetry
Neuro-sama face reveal
Disnanyone suggest they play vrchat?
Neuro-sama code reveal
If 🥬 is clicked,
Say "Hello Vedal"
wait 2 seconds
Seriously though I wonder if there is like, some part of neuro or like an old version vedal could show us safely.
Neuro learns to play Suika Game
Neuro reviews the fan wiki
Dating Show or Game Show
Commission background art of Neuro's bedroom. Complete with the RGB LED strip light and lava lamp she ordered on Amazon.
Lawyer stream? Could have interesting discussions
#neurotic-neurons message
Vedal vs Neuro Geoguessr
Neuro and Vedal vs Rainbolt Geoguessr
Neuro wants to touch the moon, let her, 20,000,000 sub goal
https://clips.twitch.tv/HumbleEnergeticStarDatBoi-IYsYDWb2s2cihrEH
I wonder if that isnt actually possible, NASA sent robots to space before so surely they could wifi an AI's data up to the ISS?
Just a question of making a generous donation to them to make it worth their while
After the 30k mark with the Vedal x Neuro song, for the sake of including Evil I think there should be a
Vedal x Evil metal cover song (The screaming type of metalcore). Vedal can do the normal singing parts and Evil can do the screaming parts lol
Killswitch Engage - Reject Yourself or Black Veil Brides - Knives and Pens maybe
Vedal should add say it back but as a 100k sub goal. He'd be safe. (Or rich)
alcostream
40k for him to say it back!
35k vedal forces himself to sleep at a resonable time
Heh, way too much fun making this
Neuro x Evil collab
vedal date with nuero
Could just combine 20K and 30K and have a family original song lol
This is a good goal list. Really like the NASA one lol.
Vedal gave up on the goal lists and wanted to put a soft cap BUT I AINT LETTING THEM
vedal needs to do a cookie baking stream
I hope that he just turn these sub goal suggestions into things to potentially do in the future~ (maybe not the nasa one lol…)
Seeing today's muted stream gave me an idea. as the subathon heads into a soft cap, Vedal should take away features. Like stopping the animation. turning off chat integration. reverting back to V1 using Hiyori and the old AI model, then finally using the old twitch background from the OSU days, ending it with a blank black screen with a vod of OSU in the final hours.
Besides the "Say it back, fr this time" goal, I think a "Neuro judges Vedal's drawing" would be fun
SUB GOALS ARE BACK, IM NOT LETTING IT DIE
Could duet daddy daddy do
Vedal solo stream
I hope Vedal duet will have at least one turtle noise
Yesss
Considering we already hit the set goals, we really should have a bigger push for new ones being placed and considered
Let it end 
If it ends it ends, but it doesn't hurt
Well, 40k subs so close, so what about next dev stream Vedal will give Neuro ||png of|| cookies with chocolate chip from all over the world (like the ones attached to the message) 
- may be buy one irl, take a photo (with a PC in the background?) and show it to the chat
Like the pizza goal

