Have Neuro-sama respond with a rant to a message for a certain amount of bits!

[compact mortar]

This would be a way to get more rants for the chill streams, and it's 👏

[icy river]

A great idea imo. People who want more rants could literally pay to get more rants. It would be even better if you could define a topic for a rant in your dono message.

I can see it being like adding "rant:" in the beginning of your donation message and thus prompting for a reply rant with bigger than usual "schizo slider" value.

[compact mortar]

@icy river No, I think you'd have to keep it at a higher cost, as a rant takes a lot longer than the usual responses. So if the cost is decided, then it'll just automatically prompt the rant prompt with your message. Though she often talks about her life during rants, so maybe as it's set up, an arbitrary topic may not be so easily incorporated. But IDK how it works.

And the message queue is already quite long -- which is what prevents rants.

[icy river]

Why would you force a user to get a rant automatically?

Higher cost - sure. But to decide the kind of repsonce you're getting only on the amount donated instead of what user wants to hear is weird.

[compact mortar]

@icy river If you pay the exact amount of a rant, then you get a rant. It won't be often that someone arbitrarily paying higher for a normal message would pay the exact price.

[icy river]

I still don't understand "why" do you want to tie rants to a specific amount of money, instead of the user's input?

[compact mortar]

@icy river It's just simpler. And most people always pay 300 bits for having their message read.

But I can understand your implementation, and it would be one way to do it.

[icy river]

Okay, sure. I guess at the end of the day it's for Vedal to calculate implementation complexity.

[viscid crescent]

The implementation would be simple in either case, it's more about what makes sense from the ux perspective

I think overall it's a fine idea but i wonder if it may take away from the spontaneity and unpredictability of the rants

People will just start farming them and then it's neurover

Maybe a better way would be to have a fixed chance to get a rant with a normal message and make it a lottery system

[icy river]

Maybe both? A guaranteed higher priced rant and a chance for a rant in a normal dono.

[viscid crescent]

If it's priced too low then I think most people would go for the rant rather than a normal

It would have to be a substantial number

[icy river]

I assume donowalling needs to be fixed first. It would be a lot worse if she starts donowalling people who paid a noticeably larger amount of money.

[coral hedge]

I doubt that paid rants would be overused, making Neuro read your message used to be 5k only but now people send more tts messages than these 5k non-tts messages even though price of tts used to be 20k at some point, hearing the message on stream is that valuable to most people apparently.

[icy river]

That ratio could be controlled with both the price of the guaranteed rant and chance for a rant in normal donos. So if too few people buy a more expensive option some variables may be changed

[viscid crescent]

I feel like that might be too confusing for the user

I assume you mean dynamically controlling the prices during the stream

[viscid crescent]

No tts response to tts + response is a direct upgrade while a rant is in a whole new league, I don't think the pattern can directly translate. But I see what you mean, maybe tts holds enough value in its own.

[icy river]

Nah, that would be too troublesome without much benefit.
I just meant that it would be up to Vedal to control all of that "most people choosing a rant dono instead of a normal one" thing behind the scenes.

[viscid crescent]

Yeah, of course

I had an idea but I forgor

Could also make it into a community thing where you build up a cumulative meter to produce a rant

Is that too corpa

[icy river]

Constant Hype Train HOOOOLY

[viscid crescent]

You could even make it tiered so every higher tier produces a longer rant

Infinite money

(not that I think vedal cares much about that side of it)

It doesn't really have to be tied to donations though

Might set it up to happen at certain points in the stream

Let's say every half hour

I'm sure the queue can handle 4-6 interruptions