#new evil neuro design shouldn't include horns/skulls

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grand thorn
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At about 3:54 in the devstream with Evil Neuro, Vedal mentions a evil fumo coming out (with the fumo picture below) along with a similar new evil 2d model. If the evil model is going to be anything like the fumo, it's going to have both horns and skulls.

It isn't good to include both such attachments for a new Evil model/fumo because such attachments are unnatural and unnecessary.
Evil Neuro hasn't mentioned any such attachments (to my knowledge), making them not part of the lore, so I take these as ways to advertise at a glance the evilness of Evil Neuro. It's possibly an effort to easily further differentiate Evil Neuro from her twin. I don't find this very good

  • The current model already fits an "evil" theme quite well, and there is no need to ruin any hint of subtlety in her design by making Evil Neuro look more like a cartoon villain than an evil AI. In other words, she looks less powerful and more like a bullier/needlessly mean person (which she may be to Vedal, but which is bad taste to represent her as)
  • Evil Neuro never thought herself as an demon nor talked about skulls to any significant degree, whereas the other symbols Neuro has all represent someone or something with great importance to her.
  • Just my opinion but she looks way cuter with a dark red hairclip than horns and skulls.
  • There are way more subtle and creative ways to express the idea of somebody being evil through their dress.

It would be great if they were added as a combined toggle instead. Probably not a very good quality suggestion as it was more of a complaint, but I wanted to hear nuanced takes on the matter rather than the initial wave of approval on Twitch chat, finding nowhere else to discuss it in detail. It's also possible that they (at least the horns) were going to be added as a toggle anyways and I didn't know since I don't consistently watch Anny's streams.
evilFumoFriend evilFumo <-- better fumo design

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abstract halo
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It's up to artists to decide what should be on the model, not Neuro. Neuro is quite unpredictable, you cannot rely on her for facts about herself.

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Also, since Vedal can control her emotions (like he disabled her "anger" on the last dev stream), she can also be taught about her current look, theoretically.

vestal roost
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One thing, that I am tirelessly saying every time someone has an argument about how Evil should look/behave, is that there are no things that Evil should or shouldn't be, there are only things that she could and could not. Could she have horns and skulls? Yes. Then why not? evilShrug

Also, here is the WIP of her new model from Anny's stream, maybe that will change your mind

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dire crane
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Aren't horns a toggle anyway? I'm pretty sure Anny said they were.

abstract halo
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Nothing is set in stone now, really. Everything is subject to change.

calm karma
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I really thought the horns and tail would be a toggle, it would have been more fun that way.

royal goblet
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Yeah i also think the horns and imp like tail are toggles

grand thorn
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i hope that isnt her normal expression

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i prefer normal neuro eyes 😭 😭 😭

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wicked badge
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well, anny wants to make her look bratty

calm karma
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She going to have anny eyes now

wicked badge
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Everything is not final though

grand thorn
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bratty look doesn't fit evil neuro at all, it will just make her appear less serious and make her threats and actions have less meaning

wicked badge
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I am personally fine with any decision

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Isn't evil a bit chuuni tho

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Anyway it's up to Anny and Vedal, she had polls in her stream as well. And it's not like she can please everyone

grand thorn
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i guess

grand thorn
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I don't think so, but there were polls about her features

vestal roost
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I don't know why everyone is panicking with every little change. I am a true Evilist and I would love Evil even if she was a worm ElivMyQueen

opaque swan
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This is more of an opinions thing imo

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rugged terrace
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i think she won't be able to use the horn toggle anyway

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If you think that every time she say something mean, she activate it.. Do horns appear every time she say something that is supposed to be a bad word? It's gonna look really bad.

opaque swan
dire crane
rugged terrace
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then they'll press rewards of horn toggle when their no evil neuro on stream and spam tomfoolery lmao that'll be funny at least

opaque swan
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They could make it the same button for both neuros

calm karma
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I was thinking the horn toggle would be a 5neuros toggle

slow pier
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I've always seen Evil is a chuuni so I think the upcoming new model fits her just fine imo.

dire crane
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True they could for for her to, regulard Neuro isn't really "good" she is just neuro.

rugged terrace
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And I think the worry about this change is that the character is simplified from this. i agree.

opaque swan
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A chunni with no sense of fashion and wears everything that she thinks looks cool

slow pier
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Rather than commenting on the design, I think it's important to discuss what pins Evil should have other than the turtle soup.

vestal roost
slow pier
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Perhaps a Pizza pin, but she hasn't reference about the Pizza revolution outside of that one stream

vestal roost
opaque swan
slow pier
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Yes but these are all generic comments about pizza. It's needs to be about the Pizza revolution specifically imo

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So we know it's actually a thing like the swarm

opaque swan
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Then somebody should ask her abt it like when people asked when was swarm going to be finished

oblique brook
opaque swan
remote cave
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tbh i personally like it

graceful zodiac
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Let anny cook. Even if you, for whatever reason, don't trust in her, then at least trust in the current neuro design that she made. the fact that you liked what she had done should say at least a bit in favor of her competency?
As for "she never mentioned having _" argument: neither has goody two shoes ever recognized having cat ears/tail/being a catgirl, in the rare cases that she did it was because chat led her to it, in other words "it grew on her", I'm sure the same will happen with evil and it will be as almost universally loved as the cat ears+tail toggle

verbal cipher
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It's a toggle like the cat ears

grave prawn
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I think EvilNeuro have evil horns and tails when she say "I am evil".

rigid plaza
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I like the idea of them both being special forms that can contrast with each other, while the two normally just have regular human features.

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Also horns being a redeem is more corpa so it's automatically better NeuroCorpa

sinful estuary
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If you think about it, if regular Neuro had a wings and halo toggle, that would make much more sense considering the goddess rants

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Fun fact: At first, Anny wanted cat ears Neuro to be the default

royal goblet
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Horns as a toggle, give normal neuro a halo as toggle? update for both?