Vevil

[lofty depot]

AI administrator/moderator based on Vedal himself.

If vedal wants to make an AI corporation, I think he needs to consider creating AI managers and moderators for each of the talents he may create in the future. To test the idea, he could make an AI that is trained on his own behavior as a moderator on his own streams. Vevil takes chatter data and determine whether each message sent is appropriate or not. For the first initial tests, Vevil has no real authority and Vedal will assess whether or not Vevil's analysis for every chat message is correct or incorrect. This assessment will be used to train the next Vevil instance for the next stream. This cycle repeats until Vedal is satisfied with the latest instance of Vevil and can implement Vevil for practical testing.

[regal wharf]

if its just a moderation ai there are probably a million ways to do stuff like this, the only reason i can see for doing something like this would be to have a "manager character", kind of like how hololive has a-chan. so like to play in the whole "ai agency" narrative

[lofty depot]

AI manager character would also be nice

[lofty depot]

Well, automods exist and I'm sure Vedal uses them both in discord and in twitch, but there are still human moderators that are used to make up for the automod's shortcomings.

[marsh niche]

An AI manager would actually be somewhat useful for announcing things, creating and posting schedules and such

And unlike A-chan she'll never be too overworked not to play with the girls

[lofty depot]

Well, a bot or script could do the things you listed. An AI that is trained to make decisions based on complex human behavior is what I was going for.

[marsh niche]

Yeah true, but those decisions can't be trusted upon a Vedal type AI

When asked, Neuro will say she streams at impossible hours

[lofty depot]

That's why you train it

If something is wrong you use that data to weigh and bias the next iteration of the AI

[marsh niche]

Sounds like it would take a long time to train though since you have to review the data every time

[lofty depot]

yeah

[marsh niche]

The one thing Vedal doesnt have is time

[lofty depot]

he could outsource the work

to trustees

[marsh niche]

We've been trying to get him to do that for a while...

[lofty depot]

well he already has mods that do that work lol

[marsh niche]

So, its definitely possible, but at Vedal's pace

[lofty depot]

he could just ask them

[marsh niche]

Who, Cabbage and the like?

[lofty depot]

yea

[marsh niche]

Then he'd have to make them a control panel where they click if the answer is correct or else the AI is punished, he doesn't trust anyone with the internals of Neuro

[lofty depot]

yee

[lofty depot]

Vevil wont be like neuro though

Vevil wont be the one making Vedal bank

Neuro will

There wont be much incentive to keep Vevil's source code hidden then

[marsh niche]

So what are you suggesting then, just using an off the shelf ChatGPT AI?
That wouldn't be much fun

[lofty depot]

wdym?

[marsh niche]

Unless this is supposed to be a strictly business AI that doesnt appear on stream, just using a stock GPT type AI limits what you can do with them content wise

Since every five seconds they say "As an AI language model, i have to follow a code of ethics etc."

Completely breaking character

[pine summit]

automation is officially taking my job

and it came in the shape of a turtle no less

[lofty depot]

kek

[lofty depot]

I don't think GPT models will be the ideal model to use

GPT models and speech-based models are just one of the most popular types of AI, but there can be better models for decision making

[lofty depot]

Does it really count as a job if you don't get paid?

[pine summit]

i can dream ok

[marsh niche]

If there is an AI specifically for these types of jobs, then I dont see why we couldn't take one of those and combine it with a text transformer to announce the schedule.

I'm just saying, Vedal AI's appeal comes from the AI taking shape and talking to us, if you go to the lengths to make another AI then might as well make it talk.

[lofty depot]

He could; what i'm saying is that if Vedal were to make Vevil, then speech/text-based models like the GPT types wont be sufficient; he'd probably need to make it from the ground-up.

Vevil being able to speak and interact like neuro would be secondary to it's primary function.

[marsh niche]

Meh, seems like more or less a waste of time then. It'd be more efficient to simply hire someone at that point.

[fresh grotto]

Snapping tutle model

[lofty depot]

Hiring more people becomes a problem as the number of vtuber streamers and number of chats scale up and becomes difficult to manage. Obviously, human operators will still be necessary to some degree, but using and exploring this kind of technology is supposed to reduce costs at a certain size and scale.