So I was legitimately thinking that since Neuro-Sama is now selling merch and supposedly a brand, has Vedal taken the legal steps to protect the trademark/ brand? Because, I don't see what would stop someone else right now, from making non-official merch of her and making it pass as if it was official. Idk, just a random question.
#Neuro-Sama Trademark
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Here is the problem: if you have a registered trademark, then you have to actively protect it, which means you have to actively find trademark infringements and resolve them. If not, your trademark can be disputed pretty easily.
Copyright, however, is not the same. Copyright is automatically protected by law since its creation date (when you created copyrighted material).
I would say that applying for the trademark would be a massive burden.
From my understanding, I comprehend that copyrights essentially only really serve to protect the outright copying/ stealing of someone's created/ tangible product. However, my research indicates that it does not apply to names or brand images, logos, etc... Essentially, to address your point, I agree that for now, trademarking the brand of Neuro-Sama could be a problem, seeing as Vedal is essentially a small and sole entity. It could produce a lot of stress (And come on, the guy clearly needs a break
). However, past that, my original question in idea ( and sorry if I did not necessarily make this clear) aimed to address the future, once the Neuro-Sama brand/ and name would have grown and developed itself enough (If it ever does). And this is precisely where I want to ask these questions: "What could be done to differentiate a basic Neuro-Sama product from a non-original one sold by a third party? What could be done to protect the name or logo from use? And what is it that could stop a scummy third-party entity from trademarking the name for themselves?" This is all because, again from my understanding, whilst copyright is indeed generally applied automatically (at least in the UK and US) from the date of creation of a particular work or product (I.E.: Video, art, book, etc...), it does not necessarily protect names nor brand logos. Moreover, as long as the work is transformative enough, I understand that it can be freely used in other people's work. Essentially, to summarize my entire mess written above, I overall agree that getting a trademark now could be more of a burden (Stressful and resourceful) for Vedal seeing as he is a sole entity now, but in the future, (May things scale up), could it become a bigger problem? Regardless, my intention isn't to force anything. As a business-interested person, it just seemed interesting and I wanted to inquire/ know if Vedal contacted a lawyer or at least thought about the topic.
Also, sorry if I made mistakes in my understanding of things. I don't typically deal with copyright and trademarks and so had to do some research (which established my assumptions about certain things).
Trademarks Rights are established by first use in commerce even without registration, so if you were the first user by eight years then there is the possibility that not only can you keep using your mark but the competitor may be infringing you.
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Interesting... Can you provide me with a link to your source? It might act as a fun read. Regardless, from what I had read, I thought that the UK only provided limited protection for unregistered trademarks. Here is what I read: "it is essential to register your trademark in the UK early, because similar to the European Union’s trademark system, the UK follows a first-to-file system. In short, a first-to-file system grants the first person who files for a particular trademark, exclusive rights to the use of that mark, regardless of whether that individual had used that mark first. Thus, a first-to-file trademark system may attract opportunistic registrants who might register your mark before you and hold your mark hostage". (Sorry, idk how to quote)
Here's the source that I used too: https://www.heerlaw.com/uk-trademark
However, since trademarks are regional, now that I think about it, that may be truly too much work/ a lot of things to do. Heh, overall an interesting matter tho
Ah yes im using US first-to-invent system. he can trademark there also, or go to Madrid International Trademark Applications
But dont worry, China counterfeit doesnt care :3
Lol, Chinese Neuro-Sama when
(If it doesn't already exist ofc)
Just looked it up. It's fascinating! Specifically, the Madrid International Trademark. Thought at first that since trademarks are regional, it would be too hard to trademark Neuro, but with this, this is something that may actually work...
Wtf. This is actually really interesting and I can totally see the potential of an application like that. I mean, we already have Google Assistant, Bixby, Siri, etc... Now imagine having something like that for all of your devices. It's frightening and probably it will need a specifically tailored business model but wow, this is incredibly interesting.
[OT] It's also made as a vtuber bot, 3d with full body gestures, I use a similar one. see my profile. but Chinese LLM bots are aligned more to adult-oriented conversations since they are not on Twitch, they earn more lucrative money coz there's no revenue cuts
Yeah, I was checking your latest vod, earlier. Seems pretty interesting. Only thing though, is that I wasn't sure whether you (As in the programmer) were the one playing the game or if it was the AI. Anyways, coming back to Chinese LLM bots, I can see why this happens since obviously, adult-like parasocial relationships can sometimes allow for higher margins due to the nature of the interactions. However, I am still astonished by it. Doesn't China have a "zero-tolerance policy" against raunchy content or those it simply not apply to that kind of content?