yooooo that’s dope
#Vedal plays Truck Driving Sim while Neuro Chats
rugged pendant
Anny and Teru might come later, for now these two are up on steam
steam really hates twitch huh
tired condor
Definitely hope turtle man does a few more truck streams in the future. It was a fantastic stream
restive magnet
link removed oof
azure raptor
Definitely hope turtle man does a few more truck streams in the future. It was a...
i agree
misty fable
Definitely hope turtle man does a few more truck streams in the future. It was a...
it was so good
rugged pendant
ah yes, not a single issue
vital blaze
I underestimated how hard blender is 
Trying to model the Gymbag into 3D with 0 knowledge 
rugged pendant
i have some experience but even then it'd be quite the task
indigo jacinth
I'll try to learn blender during the week
Watch the doughnut tutorials
rain lion
The doughnuts on the truck go round and round...
rain lion
With sprinkles
rugged pendant
Watch the doughnut tutorials
Like these ones 
rugged pendant
I made them years ago truly the way to get into blender
azure raptor
yummy
rain lion
Well, here's my WIP attempt at a gymbag. https://imgur.com/VTRC53a
indigo jacinth
I don't think it uploaded right 
rugged pendant
So i was looking into adding a bunch of alcohol bottles to the truck interior (this is a free 3D model) and I wanted to make a custom label, was looking for reference (i dont drink alcohol so i never really looked at them) and i found 
rain lion
I don't think it uploaded right <:hmmm:657776002906456099>
Hm? Works for me, even on a different browser. Here's a different one. https://i.imgur.com/e2mcZZQ.png
rugged pendant
rain lion
Thanks. Still need to do the strap and make it game ready
One of these days, Neurocord will make me an embedditor. Probably not too long based on where it was last time I looked.
rugged pendant
Also thank you everyone installing my mods even the trucks I posted today have already 30 installs 
(Neuro GPS got 260 
)
indigo jacinth
I love NeuroGPS
rugged pendant
Coming to a truck store near you 
misty fable
ionic socket
rain lion
I like the truck mod icon
vital blaze
Holy shit, I need to learn that
vital blaze
@rain lion Can you put the >.< on it as well? also I can use it for the interor? 😄
It's faster for Thursday if I ask you tbh
rain lion
Yep to both
vague ledgeBOT
You have unlocked new role
rain lion
Ayyy
rugged pendant
there it is
GASLIGHT
vital blaze
vital blaze
Neuro are you ok?
rain lion
oof
indigo jacinth
oh god
rugged pendant
moment
vital blaze
AAAAA
Damn you. Does someone know how to flip the bones without negative scale
or do I have to rebone
fug it, I reboned her
ok that sounds wrong
rugged pendant
vital blaze
@rugged pendant , is it easy to convert the project to workshop compat?
rugged pendant
/mod_name
/latest
put everything here
versions.sii
versions.sii
SiiNunit
{
package_version_info : .latest {
package_name: "latest"
}
}
delete display name and version from your manifest
indigo jacinth
Please do not the ai
rugged pendant
\/mod_name
/latest
put everything here
versions.sii
version...
install SCS Workshop Uploader, it should already be in your steam library just use the search bar
open it up, select the folder, select a 640x360 jpg as preview image and fill up the description and tags and off you go
whats neat is that you can have bunch of different versions so you can support various game updates at the same time i guess
rugged pendant
also if something is wrong the SCS tool has pretty good error messages
vital blaze
You are lucky then
I've been encountering errors like invalid format and empty animation
which gave me 0 clues
I just found out that animation hookup IDs have a 10 char limit
adding a _uk suffix crashed the mod
|| once again an UK L 
||
rugged pendant
yeah the uploader for example will say things like display_name in manifest.sii isnt required because the mod uses the workshop name or whatever
rain lion
tired condor
Gymbag
rain lion
Gymbag has a nice view in the Volvo
rain lion
Took me some fiddling to figure out how to get that in the game. As it happens, the tutorial I was following involved creating an entirely new locator for the truck, which seemed ... tedious. Also it was misleading me on what the unit file needed to contain.
If you just want to use one of the existing accessory locators, your def should be under that folder (toybed in this case) in the truck's accessories folder e.g. "/def/vehicle/truck/(truck name)/accessory/toybed/gymbag.sii".
vague ledgeBOT
@rain lion has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)
rain lion
After exporting, but before conversion and packing, I originally had to move my PIT and PIM files where I wanted the PMD file to end up ( "/vehicle/truck/upgrade/toybed/share/gymbag/" ) because when I use the exporter alone it doesn't put them in the right place, it just dumps them in the mod root, and the accessory lacks a model in-game. But the Export option under Clean/Export/Convert does it right.
In the def file, I used "accessory_addon_data : gymbag.volvo.fh16_2012.toybed" and "interior_model:" with the path above for the PMD
vital blaze
Oh you should've asked
rain lion
I wouldn't have known what to ask because I didn't realize there was a different way.
rugged pendant
we should probably merge the mods, like currently each one of us has a addons mod
i added rum bottles and a vedal plushie
rain lion
Yeah. But also leave them up individually so that people can pick and choose.
rain lion
Is there a locator for placing things in the center floor? I saw something that implied there was one, but I haven't found it in the defs or the models yet.
vital blaze
The model locator is the origin for the model + orientation (or for animation, but that is very deep to explain, can if want)
The position depends on where you want to put it
to put it on the floor, it needs to be toybig
sorry, toystand
not toybig
rain lion
I'm not touching animation right now. My brain would explode.
ah, yeah I saw toystand models, but I wasn't sure where that was.
vital blaze
i added rum bottles and a vedal plushie
Can I have that vedal plushie? I just thought of a good idea
As in the model
rugged pendant
its not quite exactly like vedal but cute nonetheless
vital blaze
tyty, will show soon what I cooked up :d
rugged pendant
i didnt make it, saw it on sketchfab and bought it but it was 1 euro or something because i had a discount so 
oh also for whatever reason it has a zip inside the zip, just remembered
vital blaze
I assume it was uploaded as a zip and the site downloads the files as a zip,
rugged pendant
its kinda funny because it has a sources dir with a zip file which has the sources and textures but also has a textures with the textures
vital blaze
rugged pendant
pog
rain lion
I just saw this screen. Not exactly an attack copter, but...
vital blaze
Wait, Kaz. Do I need to upload the compiled version?
rain lion
lol
vital blaze
and I'm stupid for trying to upload the non compiled one
rugged pendant
and i saw theres a army mod pack with a ton of army stuff, still wondering about it
no? like should just be this
vital blaze
huh very strange
rugged pendant
when you press upload it should give you a error log as well
rugged pendant
lmao
vital blaze
This app might not work on Linux 
rugged pendant
ooh that might be an issue
vital blaze
Everything worked beautifuly so far, and I'm breaking my leg at the end? 
rugged pendant
im also thinking of updating the gps mod and add a new sound bank with some files switched over so neuro says the wrong directions
rugged pendant
yeah i noticed in highways sometimes it tell you to keep on a lane and at the last moment to turn into the exit
but like adding something like "in the roundabout exit on the second exit" but actually its the third
vital blaze
\/mod_name
/latest
put everything here
versions.sii
version...
Looks like it doesn't like windows either
ERROR [00012] (/latest/vehicle/truck/upgrade/interior_decors/toybed/neuro_chill_base.pmd): [fs] Failed to open file '/vehicle/truck/upgrade/interior_decors/toybed/neuro_chill_base.pmd' in the read_only mode.
Looks like it wants to use the path with no /latest?
rugged pendant
huh
vital blaze
yeah idk either
rugged pendant
is that a uploader error?
vital blaze
yes
rugged pendant
weird
if you want send it over and ill check it too
but you literally need the /latest (or whatever folder name) or it will instantly yell at you lmao
the defs and stuff dont need to be changed either so its really weird
vital blaze
Yeah, it needs the folder specified in version
blissful gyro
I think someone mentioned this already but would letting neuro randomly interrupt vedal be possible? 
rugged pendant
Yeah, vedal just would need to hook neuro to a virtual dpad and then she could pull the handbrake, turn the truck and such
That has to be on his end tho, and how "randomly" each thing is done is another rabbit hole, should just be random or based on what she said and stuff
blissful gyro
yeah I guess that more up to him
but having neuro more integrated would be a lot more fun
remote frigate
Maybe some rudimentary controls so Neuro takes the wheel while Vedal gets a burger :V
whats the worst that could happen
rugged pendant
Maybe some rudimentary controls so Neuro takes the wheel while Vedal gets a burg...
Trumppi has a ai driving project compatible with ETS, they were thinking of using it to let neuro drive on the highway but it didn't happen
And what was it?
rugged pendant
vital blaze
ikr
rugged pendant
Well if it works it works
vital blaze
Friends only for now: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2970415742
rugged pendant
You'll have to add me then
vital blaze
Sent you a request
rugged pendant
19 years holy
rugged pendant
I lost my old account but it's be like 17 or so (same, was my dad's)
vital blaze
oh fuck, I suppose you have tried to contact steam support
You don't have old keys, like Half life?
We got this acc back by having the HL1 CD + key
rugged pendant
Might wanna ask a mods to do so, make one big post with all the links
I might have hadnt think of that might try but after 300 games or whatever mostly for nostalgia
rain lion
19 years holy
I'm at 18. Mine all along.
remote frigate
You guys are the oldge ones here, i'm at 12 and counting :V
rugged pendant
My current one has 8 but yeah 
rain lion
I'm literally crumbling to dust as we speak.
rugged pendant
thats quite the contrast
remote frigate
Any chance for animations? Since she's got new bones and all
rugged pendant
sqbika was working on that
vital blaze
Yes, currently I'm cooking
rugged pendant
vital blaze
It is possible, though very basic for now
indigo jacinth
very pog
vital blaze
Struggling right now decoupling two bones 
remote frigate
Very basic is still good
As funny as it is to see her sitting there perfectly still when drunk turtle flips the truck, its a bit weird
vital blaze
gmod like ragdoll would be godlike in those situations, but sadly as far as my animation knowledge goes in ETS2 it's not possible
remote frigate
Maybe have her look at Vedal when he turns to look at her?
vital blaze
The problem is that there are no inputs
you cannot give values to it so it has reactive animation
indigo jacinth
Would be funny to be honest if she cycled between what she looked at, it'd be funny if Vedal looked over to Neuro and she's just staring at him
vital blaze
I'm liking these ideas, so I'll cook something up
remote frigate
Can't you use the mouse movement as input? Vedals mouse moves left, so head moves right?
indigo jacinth
Maybe she could look backwards when reversing?
rugged pendant
what a way to spend the afternoon
remote frigate
....Or i guess joystick movement
vital blaze
Can't you use the mouse movement as input? Vedals mouse moves left, so head move...
There is absolutely no input what so ever
remote frigate
Perfection
Oh, can you add a sound for getting a speeding ticket? Like Neuro going "Oh no"
rugged pendant
probably
remote frigate
Not sure if theres a specific sound for getting a ticket vs a traffic violation but it probably fits for both
rugged pendant
theres 4 different "crash" sounds and i didnt know until i modded it lol
remote frigate
Ohh might fit for that then
rugged pendant
{01270b2e-068f-4680-b3cf-ad7f1245bd52} event:/reward```
warm osprey
Lol
remote frigate
I guess theres non-monetary rewards
vital blaze
```{25de1123-05fa-4961-8609-8ec713907539} event:/money
{01270b2e-068f-4680-b3cf-...
O hope the /reward actually says corpa
rugged pendant
i need a clipper to send me audio files ngl i dont know where to find anything
rugged pendant
i was testing why sometimes the audio doesnt play and i ended up with this 
rugged pendant
yooo 
native panther
modders
vital blaze
how the fuck did I break ETS2
00:00:11.542 : <ERROR> [r_effect] Failed to find effect 'eut2.dif.flat.skinned.rfx'.
00:00:11.542 : <ERROR> [r_effect] Failed to find effect 'eut2.dif.flat.skinned.rfx'.
00:00:11.542 : <ERROR> [r_effect] Failed to create effect 'eut2.dif.flat.skinned.rfx'.
00:00:11.542 : <ERROR> [material] Could not create the effect 'eut2.dif.flat.skinned.rfx'.
i think it has something to do with effects
vital blaze
I started doing animations
I tried not doing a seperate file, but a seperate animation in same model
It was a grave mistake
it literally broke everything
whole days of work in the trash
rugged pendant
i know the feeling 
i tried to create a custom cargo with a trailer for transporting drones and the whole thing freaked out
so since it didnt work my way im reverse engineering someone elses mod
errant spoke
Not sure if vedal still intends to use this, but after a lot of crashing I got the lane changes working 
After I get the bugs sorted, next is a very hacky way to do navigation xD
vital blaze
Okay, I broke my ETS2
Existing mods doesn't work
the zip I've put here doesn't work either
same problem
time to reinstall lole
rugged pendant
for a while my ETS wouldnt detect mods
after a few restarts it did
i was kinda frustrated
vital blaze
I'm actually mad
remote frigate
i need a clipper to send me audio files ngl i dont know where to find anything <...
Remember Vedal offered to record files for you if you asked
rain lion
if anyone wants to test the gymbag: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2970412855
rugged pendant
rain lion
indigo jacinth
that motto lmao
ionic socket
lmao
rain lion
Imma change the colors so only "sooner or later" is in red.
vital blaze
whole days of work in the trash
somehow did it under an hour again and it's working almost fine
vital blaze
Who knows about blender, what is this?
As in like, what should I search for to solve this
I have a multi bone - mesh thingie with multiple armature deform and this dot causes a lot of problems
mostly because it's not in 0 0 0
HOLY FUCK
rain lion
I think it's probably the root of your armature, but I'd have to look at it to be sure. Those dashed lines coming off of it could be parent relationships for sommething with an offset.
Made a player owned version of the Tutel Transport trailer.
vital blaze
Despite how it started from yesterday.
I have done it.
I'm eagerly awaiting tomorrow
Also vedal, if you read this: mine is on Workshop as well (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2970415742) but it's friends only cause on sunday I want to clean up the filestructure + add more things and then make it public
Can also give you the zip file if steam friending is no bueno
It's now unlisted
tired condor
I love how this has kinda become its own whole project.
Every truck stream will be even better than the last
rugged pendant
man @vital blaze awesome job
tho my passenger neruo is kinda balding 
also, if you go to your workshop listing you can change visibility to "hidden" or "unlisted" which would probably let vedal downlad it too, i guess
vital blaze
Nope :\
rugged pendant
and unlisted too? :(
vital blaze
Oh that actually works
rugged pendant
btw some issues i found are that on some trucks the laying down neuros clip through the passenger seats, specially on uk interior, like the fh16 which vedal uses
rugged pendant
neuro balding 
(dunno if this is my install but it should be the workshop version)
vital blaze
neuro balding <:waa:1015795050946506852> (dunno if this is my install but it sho...
Nope, thats the model
I should probably fix that
indigo jacinth
yeah I think this was on the stream too
That's just how neuro is
we hav no proof she isn't balding here we can't see
rugged pendant
i had a pretty old version of the mod for a while so she was basically radioactive of how much she used to glow
so with the updated version i noticed
vital blaze
I need to learn how to fix that or ask for Retro to fix it 
@karmic kite Can you extend the hair on the top?
rugged pendant
rugged pendant
well scream works
sometimes whenever the game calls crash_hard, sometimes 30mph against a sign works, sometimes at 50 mph against a car doesnt sooo
karmic kite
I need to learn how to fix that or ask for Retro to fix it <:DeadAyaka:721977165...
Got lazy and added a hat instead 
vital blaze
indigo jacinth
omfg I love it
vital blaze
I love that
indigo jacinth
perfect trucker
rugged pendant
tbh that'd work, the one on the seat would look better and the **redacted ** its fine as they are really
rugged pendant
i was going to send a screenshot earlier when i mentioned the clipping but i thought the same and didnt just in case
valid violet
whats the plan for tomorrow
indigo jacinth
truckin'
vital blaze
We are ready to lift off
rugged pendant
yep
vital blaze
I'm doing the last minute changes, upload to workshop and we are good to go
rugged pendant
i wanted to add drone deliveries but its still crashing 
i can add simple deliveries but i wanted a custom trailer with a drone in a flatbed or something
vital blaze
Does it crash instantly as it load?
rugged pendant
i havent seen it in game yet
either the delivery doesnt even show up on the market
or when it does it crashes
rain lion
I'm going to put the trailers up on the workshop as well
vital blaze
Confirm that the names are corrent in the sii files
I had that issue as well, where my model just insta crashed
rain lion
Gymbag is already there, as posted upthread. Doesn't have the strap yet though.
vital blaze
mainly the pmd-s
rain lion
AI Trailers posted. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2970417779
I know of a few wonky ones, like the FBF Dumper. I'll fix those later.
indigo jacinth
Will these trailers appear in the wild too?
rain lion
That's all this does. There aren't any player owned trailers in this (I've only got the Tutel Transport one that I posted a pic of earlier). Player owned trailers use a completely different UV map so I basically have to rebuild them from scratch to allow that.
indigo jacinth
ahhh nice, I hope we see some
Vedal should link the workshop items so we can artifically inflate the popularity next stream 
vital blaze
Collections of all Neuro Related Mods: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2970851239
Did I miss any?
rain lion
All the ones I know of are there.
vital blaze
Oh Kaz already has one
@rugged pendant do you want to add the rest into yours? So we don't have two of them
Also we should ping a mod to pin the collection link
rugged pendant
Sure let me finish lunch tho
rugged pendant
I'll upload my box trailer too
vital blaze
sorry about that
rain lion
I'll be putting my player trailer up at some point before tomorrow, I just want to keep the two types separate and I'm going to bed right now.
rugged pendant
gn!
All the ETS2 mods: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2970388274
My ATS collection (still very behind but I'll port the rest soon): https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2970856279
vital blaze
All the ETS2 mods: <https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=29703...
unlsited cannot be put into there?
upper summit
All the ETS2 mods: <https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=29703...
idk whether or not he's doing mods
haven't read this thread
rugged pendant
yeah throws an error
upper summit
but yeah since you've asked so politely i'm happy to pin it thank u
rugged pendant
yeah 
thanks cabbage
vital blaze
thank you cabbage
vital blaze
yeah throws an error
public now
rugged pendant
public now
its in it now
rugged pendant
ill push my box trailer in a second and then ill see if i can fix the deliveries
that might not be done in time, we'll see
rugged pendant
@vital blaze i think the tutel is bugged? at first it didnt show up from the outside view but now it disappeared inside too, i checked on the service station, the attachment is installed...
vital blaze
the one on the dashboard?
rugged pendant
yeah
vital blaze
figures. I'll fix that*
rugged pendant
my trailer been uploaded too
vital blaze
I hope stream is this time tomorrow as well
rugged pendant
yooooo
remote frigate
What, is Vedal gonna deliver Battle Fairy Yukikaze lmao
rugged pendant
close enough its one of the planes from ace combat which fit the "swarm" pretty well
at least is not crashing the game now
remote frigate
Ohh yeah i recognize it now, the squares fucked with my eyes
rugged pendant
yeah its the ADF01
and i know, was just trying to figure out why it kept crashing so i removed the textures at one point
ill probably scale it down and put two on a trailer or so
remote frigate
Its stealth coating thats why you cant see it
rugged pendant
just imitating car companies when they want to test prototypes without leaking it
remote frigate
Or a cute pink version of digital camo
Tbh though, you guys are doing an amazing job but this game seems to be held together with shoestrings and glue
rugged pendant
tbh a lot of the wiki is in "TODO" for god knows how long and the tools are kinda scuffed but oh well
lots of text files in very specific folders pointing to very specific files and what not
vital blaze
Sory 😄
inland echo
no worries 
rugged pendant
azure raptor
HAHAHAHAHAHA
rugged pendant
rugged pendant
if only i could get this drone trailer to be stable 
azure raptor
drone trailer?
rugged pendant
most likely gonna be two, just having lots of issues but oh well degen hours arent new to me 
azure raptor
well i mean if you don't have time for tomorrow it's okay, i think he might some other streams on the game
rugged pendant
yeah just im very stubborn
azure raptor
i am as well i know how it feels lmfao
remote frigate
most likely gonna be two, just having lots of issues but oh well degen hours are...
I think the original scale was close enough tbh
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3q8n1dzBU0M/maxresdefault.jpg
rugged pendant
yeah but problem is fitting them on the road
if i could detach or retract (like in game) the wings it'd be easier to manouvre
remote frigate
Wdym its funny to see Vedal struggle 
rugged pendant
otherwise its a very wide load, just to make it easier for me (id have to check that all the compounds where it spawns are wide enough) and for vedal (not getting stuck everywhere) just gonna make it a bit smaller
remote frigate
But rather than just that i imagine it'll be very glitchy given the.... questionable physics of this game
Trailer touches the invisible wall thats the road barrier = Truck flips violently
rugged pendant
ive done some test with the original size with a wide collider (you can set up the collider as big as you want) and it was fine
you definitely get caught on street poles or signs
im fairly certain the game treats the load as part of the trailer, it doesnt get its own physics
still quite wide, gonna have to drive slightly on the centre to clear everything
i guess in highway is less of an issue
rugged pendant
it finally loaded, the model and didnt crash and it loaded it with (most textures) and didnt crash thank god
indigo jacinth
rugged pendant
now some to add some ratchet straps or smth and i can push it so we might get some swarm delivered
rain lion
The owned trailer is up. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2971078732
rugged pendant
and now its in the collection 
rugged pendant
i havent had any issues but sqbika had some trouble too
rain lion
Getting a lot of "can't find .tobj file" errors for some reason. Will poke at it after food
rugged pendant
well gl, ill be here a few more hours if you need anything
man finally managing everything to load properly has given me such a boost of energy
rain lion
I added some regular traffic vehicles. Those appear to be the issue as all of the errors are based on those. I probably forgot to do something.
rugged pendant
misty fable
Ladies and gentlemen a common W for Kaz
rugged pendant
kinda scuffed but given im not a 3d artist, im taking it
also its probably strapped wrong but i dont load flatbeds for the army either so whatever
now
do i add collisions to the wings
rain lion
Well, as far as I can tell, the automats generated simply appear to be pointing to skin files that don't exist. Took the Traffic vehicles out and everything worked again.
rugged pendant
i had some issues with automats too
at one point they kept pointing to my desktop for some reason
rain lion
Weird
rain lion
lol
rugged pendant
imma make some collision but not to the tip, i wanna have vedal maybe get stuck but at the same time i want him driving reckless
rugged pendant
i cant believe its done
vital blaze
Pooog
rugged pendant
after tracking down a empty automat that didnt let me upload to the workshop its finally done https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2971121259
now to bed 
got a stream to catch in the morning
rain lion
goodnight
winged vale
vedal lambo delivery
ancient shadow
valid violet
this is what I have, am I missing anything? (it is only these)
and does anyone have recommendations for what to do?
rugged pendant
that should be everything
valid violet
will my save break
vital blaze
There are bunch of upgrades
rugged pendant
oh and remember to just activate one version of them if you still got the zip files
vital blaze
Yeah remove the zip files actually
since the Workshop is more up-to-date
It should not break anything since the internal names are the same
rugged pendant
the swarm trailers should just show up on the market like any other job, the trailer skin i made is for an owned trailer so if you wanna use it you'll have to get it
valid violet
okay yeah it seems to work
rugged pendant
keep the old neuro noises one if you want just as a backup, i added neuro "aaaaaaaah" when you have a "hard" crash but ets seems quite conflicted when that is, if it gets too much switch to the old one
vital blaze
I cannot wait for people's reaction
tired condor
Lmao
vital blaze
they are just 
tired condor
They don’t know
rugged pendant
i dont particularly care but like why comment, the workshop is full of crap, so you mostly just scroll past all of it, so why even bother commenting
best part is i can just delete it
rain lion
As for my stuff, the AI trailers just appear in world automatically. The Gymbag has to be bought like any other accessory, and the player owned Tutel Transport skin is bought just like Kaz's trailer except mine's just on the dry and freezer trailers, not the curtainsider for now (because the UVs are slightly different).
upper summit
this is gonna be so awesome, i missed the last one
rain lion
I'd post a pic of another trailer I made just for people's amusement, but its not in the pack and isn't strictly Neuro-related (Vtuber though).
upper summit
hm
rain lion
As for what you can do, Vedal, you could try playing Isekai Simulator.
rugged pendant
isnt that what he did last stream anyway
vital blaze
I woke up at 4:30 and I was like, I must do this for the stream
vital blaze
I'm enjoying the heck out of this
rugged pendant
same
vital blaze
First I need to decompile and find all of the fucking .sii configs and create a full documentation of them
cause it's drives me insane that I have to edit all .sii files blind
rain lion
I couldn't sleep at all
rugged pendant
how barebones the wiki is for some things is so annoying
im having the same issue with rimworld
vital blaze
the wiki is literally only good to point you somewhere
the rest is forums, guess work, trial and error
vital blaze
I couldn't sleep at all
ouchy
rain lion
Yeah. I still have no idea what's going on with the Traffic Vehicles. Mods Studio 2 has templates for them so it should be possible.
rugged pendant
someone isnt very happy with my drone mod <:sillycat:1085011552530346126>
dude is back
i delete it again
rain lion
Some people.
indigo jacinth
Neuro loves being interior sounds
rugged pendant
rain lion
lol
vital blaze
I have a fucking 
moment
Will it work with that...
Actually now I want to try it
WAIT
THIS WAY HE CAN LOOK AT THE MODELS
rugged pendant
i dont have vr so ive never tried it 
rugged pendant
and this was the original model, like twice the wingspan 
vital blaze
I'm collecting a bunch of new stuff this stream to do :3
(secretly hoping there is no trucking stream next week so I can cook)ű
I'm gone on weekend
vital blaze
this is how i set it up in the end
Yeah maybe reduce it to the width of the truck
rugged pendant
i got another neuro project im cooking but i had to make ets2 a priority so ill be cooking regardless of which it is
ill just move the wing collision to match a regular trailer width
theres oversize loads dlc but im guessing the routes dont go through tolls
rugged pendant
yeah i was gonna put some signs but i was so done last night 
aw he cant purchase trailers yet
keen sedge
Vedal should sleep away and leave the truck in rest area and neuro keep talking lmao
sleek nimbus
You should make a ballistic version for the drone. 
remote frigate
Mod the drone into being a roof decoration so its flying overhead ;D
rugged pendant
@vital blaze, I can do it if you want and then mege it into your add-on pack?
vital blaze
Uhh, I think we could keep it categoriy seperated, like interior, exterior
We could merge also, though I wont be near a PC until Sunday
rugged pendant
Oh I interpreted it like the nuero cubes hanging
Yeah we can make an exterior and interior pack better
vital blaze
Oh I interpreted it like the nuero cubes hanging
Ooh I misunderstoox, yeah sure that could be fun
I want to do a gymbag toyhang aswell
That was the original idea
remote frigate
Maybe a bottle of banana rum for the dashboard, so he can take a swig while driving :P
rugged pendant
no more toll booth shenanigans
if you can drive a box truck, you can deliver drones
remote frigate
I'd have two suggestions for a third stream...
https://www.modhoster.de/mods/dodge-charger-2016-1-34-x
To let Neuro drive the closest thing to her dream car, or
https://ets3mods.com/camper-with-caravan-trailer-v7-0-1-42/
For a chill camping stream. Unfortunately, neither of those are designed for 1.47 and i'm not sure how much hassle it would be to retorfit them...
Alternatively, this would actually work with the current version and be fitting for the Vedal meme
http://www.ets2world.com/lamborghini-aventador-svj-2018-1-47-ets2/
Let the man use his racing wheel properly lol
rugged pendant
i can look into upgrading them but those wont end up in the workshop, not gonna claim someone's work
remote frigate
Yeah for sure, just an idea for additional content
crisp python
multiplayer opensource https://sourceforge.net/projects/flightgear/
if you want a modding project as a sample: https://github.com/c172p-team/c172p
indigo jacinth
oohhh 
paper oasis
I believe it was not yet discussed, but just in case if we ever have a VR stream again:
Is there a way to smooth camera's output just like in VRChat?
I believe some viewers were getting a little bit sick because of junky movement
tired condor
I have a feeling vedal probably wouldn’t wanna do it in VR again, he sounded really exhausted by the end there, and he kept talking about it making him feel sick.
but you never know i guess. It’s up to the turtle at the end of the day
rain lion
If ithe game's supported, Vedal could install LIV and set up a camera with enhanced fpv smoothing. The output from that can then be sent to obs. https://help.liv.tv/hc/en-us/articles/360017068860-LIV-s-Enhanced-FPV
Even if the enhanced FPV isn't supported, LIV also has a First Person Stabilizer which apparently works in any SteamVR game (https://help.liv.tv/hc/en-us/articles/4946005392914-First-Person-Stabilizer). And I believe I've heard of a few other ways to do something similar, but I don't remember the details offhand.
LIV's free, but it might impact performance on a 1080ti
rain lion
OK, well, I don't see it listed but I'll test it out anyway since I was already meaning to try ETS in VR before yesterday's stream.
LIV might be the app Vedal was trying to remember yesterday. It would let him see chat even if the game is unsupported https://www.liv.tv/streamerkit I'd have mentioned it, but until now I forgot it could do that.
obsidian temple
The VOD has background music playing on top of the radio, making the footage unusable
rain lion
OK, I had the stabilizer working. It seems to help, but recording it appears to cause hitching. (Recording ETS2 might cause hitching even without it on my system, I'll have to test further) Not sure yet how well it'll do with streaming.
valid violet
The VOD has background music playing on top of the radio, making the footage unu...
ah oops
obsidian temple
but I like that you added the radio, anyways. I think it was really lacking in the last stream.
rain lion
Edit: NVM, I'm sleepy
royal geyser
if you need someone for coding im here :shy:
indigo jacinth
rugged pendant
rain lion
if you need someone for coding im here :shy:
I think ETS2/ATS mods are mostly textures, models, sounds, maps, and in-game traits. Not much to code in that I know of. i might be wrong, though.
its possible something could be done out of game using the telemetry maybe (https://blog.scssoft.com/2015/02/a-look-on-technical-side-telemetry-sdk.html) to feed neuro info, akin to the amongus plugin, but not sure what would be fun.
rugged pendant
could maybe have neuro tell you your speed/how long there is to destination but thats about it i think
rain lion
I put a few new skins on the trailer mod
TBH I haven't looked at the telemetry SDK at all other than reading the linked article, I just remembered it existed
rugged pendant
i looked into it when we first started talking about modding neuro into the game, thinking we could have actual neuro giving indications but theres basically 0 navigation data on it, so i settled for gps
rain lion
makes sense
vital blaze
I wonder if we could create a cheat engine mapping to use in py so we could read gps data
rain lion
World position and orientation doesn't give you much without context about where stuff is in the rest of the world, though. Do they have that too?
rain lion
I haven't forgotten about this silly thing. Managed to get it to show up. Currently trying to figure out why the material is missing even though the files are there.
indigo jacinth
lmao
vital blaze
I haven't forgotten about this silly thing. Managed to get it to show up. Curr...
Make sure the texture path in the SCS Material menu is the same path what you have in the zip
Also look at the automat as well, cause sometimes that can issues
rain lion
Well, I somehow got the above version to work by making a zip manually. When I tried clean exporting it from Blender properly, it looks the same except it has the pink and white checkboard, so I assume the first version just didn't have the UV mapping correct. As far as I can tell, the paths in the resulting zip are correct, including the automat.
The DDS texture and tobj file are in the zip file under vehicle/truck/upgrade/f_grill/share/vedal/textures/
The tobj file contains the path /vehicle/truck/upgrade/f_grill/share/vedal/textures/VedalHead.dds
The automat file contains texture[0] : "/vehicle/truck/upgrade/f_grill/share/vedal/textures/VedalHead.tobj"
hm, wait
Yeah, I was running into a PEBCAK issue. All of the info above WAS correct. ETS just wasn't using that version because I somehow left an old copy behind. Cool.
remote frigate
Good god lmao
rain lion
Terrifying innit
rain lion
What if ... Gymbag, but also trailer.
rain lion
Maximum Tutel is now public. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2972512928
rain lion
Heh, and I have my first complaint comments (in German)
remote frigate
Heh, and I have my first complaint comments (in German)
Two actually, the first one says "This hurts" and the second one saying "And this is the sort of trash you find on the Workshop"
rain lion
Yeah
I chose to interpret the first one as groaning about the joke. Which is, you know, fair. I never intended it to be taken seriously.
crimson tulip
Oh my god I love it
vital blaze
oh god 
vital blaze
Why didn't she get the info about the procedures
She should have the savefile
and mods
Save file: #1096531774185685063 message
vital blaze
rugged pendant
thank god i updated the colliders 
remote frigate
Updated colliders dont help with pepega driving though 
rugged pendant
well at least she wont clip the wings on everything
rugged pendant
and thats saying something knowing vedal drove it drunk
rugged pendant
theres too many drone jobs on the market
but i was panicking and just added them to every depot
vital blaze
We need a lot of drones after all
vital blaze
I was actually thinking of making a trailer of mini neuros
from the pixels
making a 3d pixel neuro and just them chilling ona trailer
vital blaze
Oooh thats good as well
indigo jacinth
one giant 4090
indigo jacinth
indigo jacinth
Could do a 1080 too https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-fe-rev2-43561a3309854d94858c293e1ba454d4
vital blaze
now thats a chonkers. It could fit the gates
crimson tulip
Actual 4090 size
rain lion
lol, oh god, i was asleep and now I'm at a cookout. I'll have to catch this later
rugged pendant
your trailers showed up on stream 
rain lion
nice. did she notice any?
rugged pendant
we saw anny's but she was distracted and didnt notice, she did see tutel transport and another one that i dont recall
rain lion
cool
rugged pendant
filipino boy spotted
rain lion
lol
crimson tulip
I saw Filipino boy in my own game a few days ago and did a double take lol
rain lion
Preserving the surprise is one reason I havent posted pics of most of them (not that mind if others do) or listed them on the desc/version messages
crimson tulip
Keep it that way
rain lion
👍
bronze torrent
should make a mission to deliver a cargo of fox piss
rugged pendant
oh lord i could make a tanker for that 
crimson tulip
OnlyFox trailer when
rain lion
oh no
tired condor
I’m just imagining a shipment full of crates with john’s lemons
crimson tulip
I’m just imagining a shipment full of crates with john’s lemons
Omg thats even better
rain lion
I can do that, maybe. Since I have a logo.
Not that I'd use it, but Johnn Lemon is in fact a real brand. In the phillipines I think? Saw it in one of Garnt's videos. For awhile I thought thats what neuro was referring to.
crimson tulip
I think it was lowkey an actual meme too
Also this sick fan-art https://www.behance.net/gallery/6426661/John-Lemon
rain lion
ah makes sense
indigo jacinth
Herman Miller distribute models of all their chairs 
https://www.hermanmiller.com/en_gb/resources/3d-models-and-planning-tools/product-models/individual/special-gaming-edition-aeron-chair/
rain lion
too bad you cant have cargo spill out when theres a crash (as far as I know). just Vedal driving along minding his business and a small pack of chairs crosses the intersection ahead...
rugged pendant
nah cargo is static
only way of doing that is creating a random event
theres accidents where the truck cargo is off the trailer, like the fighter jet i guess
rain lion
Yeah, about what I figured
vital blaze
@rain lion Do you want to create those mirror hanging accessory from the gymbag?
Like the nuero cubes
rain lion
I could, unless you want to
vital blaze
I think it would be cool, I can you how to do it
rain lion
Sure
rain lion
Nope. I was writing a python script but haven't finished it.
vital blaze
why not text discord REE
anyway, you can use that.
you have to replace the nuero instances, also you need to do a few things in the model:
you need to create a coll SCS Parts in the root object
You need to add these as well
rain lion
makes sense
vital blaze
And make sure that the locator is assigned to the coll part
and then you are good to go, export and it should work
rain lion
cool, thanks. Imma test the skin I'm working on, then I'll poke at it. Are those box dimension settings rescaling the model, or will I need to do that manually?
vital blaze
Those settings are only for the collision
and manual
they don't affect the actual model
rain lion
yeah
vital blaze
There is a convex type where you can map it to the model with the angels, but I haven't tried it
rugged pendant
<@536221054792761344> Do you want to create those mirror hanging accessory from ...
if you wanna do the drones i can send you the model, got other projects so might not get it done soon
rain lion
Me? Sure, might as well.
At some point I am going to look into figuring out how to get a particular AI truck to link to a specific AI trailer, since I'm working on the TT truck skin. I know it's possible
vital blaze
Small update pushed
rain lion
Figured out how to use the model previewer to line up textures on the actual model, so these hexes are a lot easier.
rugged pendant
theres a texture missing for the glass bits but idk where i put it, in anycase i just used the glass shader from the already set ones for that
rain lion
Seems to be working. I'll probably lower the mesh resolution.
indigo jacinth
Does the cab have to be a truck or can we swap in an entire ferrari
Seems hard to model the inside though and make all the interior objects fit
vital blaze
You can do custom cars yes
remote frigate
Does the cab have to be a truck or can we swap in an entire ferrari
I posted a link to a Lamborghini mod befoe
indigo jacinth
I posted a link to a Lamborghini mod befoe
ahh nice nice nice
remote frigate
Theres also camper vans and such, should Vedal ever wish to take Neuro on a camping trip
indigo jacinth
Neuro camping
rain lion
oh, Gymbag mod now has the hanging version. i forgot to simplify the mesh, but i was running on two ish hours of sleep.
crimson tulip
You guys are awesome for these mods
vital blaze
remote frigate
oh, Gymbag mod now has the hanging version. i forgot to simplify the mesh, but ...
Should hang it from where the Neurocubes are hanging, driving in hard mode
rain lion
It is hanging from where the cubes are; Sqbika gave me the cube def file yesterday. Other than changing that to get the model working, I just made it a singular bag rather than two and tweaked the orientation accordingly.
Unless you meant hang the FULL-SIZED version there. LMAO. I did make the hanging decoration a bit larger after the screenshot I posted, though, because I felt it got lost.
rugged pendant
man im in such a bad mood i went to port Neuro Noises to ATS but i just cant get the truck def files when i extract def.scs or base.scs for that matter
I did find this tho, it handles like ass tho
rain lion
When i was having issues extracting the files it turned out it was dumping them in the game directory instead of where i wanted. But if it extracts anything, thats probably not it.
remote frigate
I did find this tho, it handles like ass tho <:sillycat:1085011552530346126>
It handles like a truck would, i assume? So they just... made a really fast truck?
rugged pendant
theres more nimble trucks in ETS2 than that thing and its not particularly fast either
remote frigate
Bleh, useless then :V
According to Clarkson a Lambo should always be trying to kill you, thats when its a good Lambo
crimson tulip
Needs more POWER
rugged pendant
remote frigate
They aint wrong, its good
rain lion
True
tall orbit
Neuro being a GPS voice is just great!
crimson tulip
Take a wrong turn and she says gymbag
tall orbit
Turn left, kekwa
rain lion
ATS is 75% off (and other truck sim stuff on sale) this week... hmm.
vital blaze
oh dang
rugged pendant
but since im focusing on Isaac, i'll look into it more on another moment
i got gifted ATS by someone after i replied to someone on the workshop that i couldnt port it because i didnt own it tho
rugged pendant
if you dont have issues with def.scs or base.scs make me a guide or send me a zip i just dont get any of the /vehicles/truck/volvo_fh16 equivalents
rugged pendant
Ikr
I had to me it to another SSD because on my boot drive I kept running out of space
vital blaze
um, it extracted fine
rugged pendant
Check the directories, It didn't error to me they just weren't there
rugged pendant
I did base and def
Also I didn't find anything about it, the only posts I saw the answered boiled down tow "it's slow, just wait 4head"
rugged pendant
I didn't compare them so idk mine, I had other mods to do so I just pushed it back
vital blaze
yeah it's late, I'll get back to this tomorrow
rain lion
I came across a comment "For ATS, the trucks are seperate .scs files within the same folder the base.scs and def.scs are located. "
rugged pendant
Huh
I'll check when I'm back from dinner if sqbika doesn first
Its true :O
I dismissed it at first because they are named as dlc_
rain lion
heh
TBH I mostly ignored the ETS extra files aside from that free DAF truck (which I still need to add to the Gymbag mod)
rugged pendant
Yup, well I guess I'll port my noise mod tonight in an hour or so
rain lion
Mouse says she has bought ATS and has a wheel now. Maybe she'll be interested in having Neuro along. I have to get my Little Kayzers and Sayton Shipping trailers working in ATS if they don't already...
rugged pendant
rain lion
I think SCS needs to start going east with these maps.
remote frigate
Mouse says she has bought ATS and has a wheel now. Maybe she'll be interested i...
Booster seat mod pls
rain lion
lol
rugged pendant
i lost my fmod project for neuro noises
gonna have to try reusing the soundbanks i already have or remake them from scratch
rain lion
Oof
remote frigate
<:waaaaaaa:805168920759107594> i lost my fmod project for neuro noises
Cant you just download it from Steam Workshop and work off of that?
rugged pendant
nah you export .bank files but you cant remake the .fmod file from that
remote frigate
...Of course...
rugged pendant
i had kept my .fmod project but i guess i deleted it without noticing
remote frigate
Suggestion: Make a new project for the additional noises? Or would that conflict with the existing mod?
No need to remake the mod if you arent planning to change whats already there and working
rugged pendant
i dont know if i want to add any more sounds tbh, i think i got basically everything covered
maybe the sound when you get a ticket but that would be a different soundbank from the trucks so its whatever
im gonna try reusing the banks i did for ets2 if it doesnt work ill remake it
the blinkers are working, looking at the console the AAAAAAAAAAA is broken but thats an easy one to remake if needed
rain lion
Nice
rain lion
I'm trying to figure out how I extracted this WS4800 mod when I started working on the turtle head, because now I can't get most of its SCS files to extract properly, with either Mods Studio or the SCS extractor.
rain lion
Well, this is sort of a problem. ATS box trailer UVs for AI Traffic seem to be mapped so you can only change the area covered by the colored grid, and in-game the white sections are just the edge of the texture stretched forward and back (this behavior is probably controlled by the material. I know there are edge clamping options in the source tobj files, and the white portion can be recolored in the previewer).
Edit: In their infinite wisdom, SCS apparently did not include an SCS_Box traffic trailer in ATS that has the entire side of the trailer covered by the texture, except for the 28 foot (which is so short that I'd have to change the designs anyway).
crisp python
this thread convinced me play this game :3 give me 12 min :3
misty fable
this thread convinced me play this game :3 give me 12 min :3
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misty fable
All the ETS2 mods: <https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=29703...
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indigo jacinth
Hope Vedal does more trucking soon, it's so much fun to watch
karmic tulip
True
indigo jacinth
vital blaze
Converting the mod to ATS 
rugged pendant
vital blaze
@rugged pendant Do you have a collection for ATS too?
Also modded savegame moment
rugged pendant
i do but only the gps mod has been ported since
(it has the wrong image but i didnt have one to replace for at the time)
vital blaze
It's fine, perfect
ATS people are now included as well 
also porting midway I realised that there is no _uk variant in ATS 
I need to fix that in my conversion tool to remove all _uk
rugged pendant
i need to port the rest but i really havent felt like it
rain lion
The AI traffic trailers that have relatively simple designs (like Snegglings or Fun AI) aren't too problematic, but the way traffic trailers are skinned in ATS (i.e. none of the box trailers longer than 28 foot are fully texturable) is an issue for the skins that are meant to cover the entire length of the trailer with repeating patterns or imagery, such as Tutel Transport.
IIRC, it looked like it might be possible to specify in the .sui file that a particular kind of AI traffic uses an owned trailer instead of the traffic trailer, so I could maybe go that route, but I haven't tested it and that's still a lot of work because owned trailers use a more complex UV layout. The existing owned Tutel Transport trailer skin will also need to be remapped to get it into ATS.
The Gymbag could be converted fairly easily.
misty fable
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crisp python
this needs a new stream episode. maybe an MP https://truckersmp.com/ and everyone joins the convoy?
vital blaze
Not sure if you can add mods to TruckersMP
autumn lintel
No, you cannot add random mods to TruckersMP. You can technically add them as a "local edit", but it sucks and might lead to a ban.
Also, if TruckersMP is an option, please use Arcade servers, since they don't have truck-to-truck collision there + rules are simplified.
If there is a need, I can provide more information and help for TruckersMP.
crisp python
No, you cannot add random mods to TruckersMP. You can technically add them as a ...
if enough players can sign a request to truckersmp maybe it wont be banned for 1 day event? i do have a separate account just incase
autumn lintel
- They don't provide dedicated servers to firstcomers, you have to be prominent in TruckersMP community to have a chance.
- They have a very extensive system for ban evading, should you choose to have multiple ones.
Source: I was a TruckersMP team member for 7 years, including a web developer position.
crisp python
1. They don't provide dedicated servers to firstcomers, you have to be prominent...
That's why i say it would be a request, basically a media exchange. since there's specific time the servers are not loaded anyway. a separate account should be best also since the usernames appearing should be in uniform format. it's not a technical issue but a commercial one
autumn lintel
They don't provide such things. If you want to host an event and your community is far from TruckersMP, you'd be better to use Arcade server for ease of moderation.
During COVID, multiple F1 racers were joining TruckersMP, and they were instructed to use Arcade servers.
crisp python
how come they have events on simulation servers https://truckersmp.com/events
autumn lintel
As I told you before, they don't provide dedicated servers to firstcomers. You have to provide a proof of meeting RSVP numbers during your previous event.
All the events listed there are from established virtual trucking companies.
Also, Events <> Servers.
crisp python
so its best to go through a VTC to run an event?
autumn lintel
It is best to use an Arcade server and avoid all the hassle.
You don't need an officially recognised event/dedicated server to have fun with the community. It is only required when you need a moderation assistance (since only Game Moderators can moderate the servers and control the traffic flow).
crisp python
ah found it thanks https://truckersmp.com/knowledge-base/article/671
autumn lintel
Let me give more context:
- Events are essentially a big town board, where you can post your event and let other players know. They don't have any exemption from the rules and not covered by Game Moderation as a separate traffic flow.
- Dedicated servers might be provided for the Event should your event have more than X amount of approved attendees. This will allow you to ask for moderation assistance and the ability to set your own rules for the event, including a traffic control team of your own.
Ah yes, I should've pointed you at the KB
misty fable
No, you cannot add random mods to TruckersMP. You can technically add them as a ...
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autumn lintel
Yes, but they are limited to 8 players
misty fable
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misty fable
Yes, but they are limited to 8 players
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autumn lintel
It will be worse on dedicated server, depending on configuration.
TMP servers not at capacity are ok, we even hosted a big convoy on American server with ping up to 170 and it was all good.
misty fable
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autumn lintel
Arcade server is never at capacity, so it is fine.
misty fable
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autumn lintel
They have made several performance updates, last time I checked
Also there are many performance-related settings available
misty fable
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autumn lintel
We can always try.
misty fable
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autumn lintel
Skill issue 
misty fable
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autumn lintel
Ah, memories
misty fable
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errant spoke
If Vedal makes the Neuro API we can actually have neuro "drive" 
vital blaze
The official modding API is limited in that regard, so we would need to go on the hard road
errant spoke
We've solved that already 
(well mostly, few more months to get it done fully)
I was thinking of making neuro do simple decisions and then letting the driving be done by the rest of the app
vital blaze
Oooh
errant spoke
Didn't vedal say they are supposed to be just simple questions for the LLM?
I don't think Neuro could ever actually drive the truck, it's too complicated of a task to do in real time.
vital blaze
I need to look into re-learning how the mod works
I tried a few times to update, the Evil Update is very due
I need to contact a model creator for Evil
rugged pendant
i have tapriekos models we could use
and basically everything we did is broken since there has been plenty of updates
i kept getting messages on steam about it, i just havent had the energy to fix everything lmao
rain lion
There have been a lot of new references to make trailers of (and requests to port the old ones to ATS)
vital blaze
Lovely
vital blaze
She is back and not glowing 
rugged pendant
She is back and not glowing <:Pog:859958188517752843>
taprieko made 3d models of v3 tho you might have to redo the whole thing but leaving them here just in case: https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/vtuber-neuro-sama-v3-6a00e5f3a17542d5ac27bb37a8e35307
