#Need help cutting card in my Evelyn the Covetous deck

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novel bramble
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Thats a very low creature count lol

warped flare
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๐Ÿคฆ more creature cuts huh

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without commander i guess you just have to take all the hits

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"FACE BLOCK"

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T3 KO? so fast

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need creature target on board....

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rollick at least somewhat get away as a free spell even with 0 synergy

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[[fear of missing out]] i think i would use this instead?

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novel bramble
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Could be good, but anything with a board means I dont get my extra combat

novel bramble
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Welp, I'm now at 30 decks made. I can't keep making new decks and not play them. I have to slow the f down

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I think I'll just make new decks when new commanders come out

warped flare
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a few replacement i can see would be those protection/ramp piece

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i see the overlap with [[rowan, scion of war]]

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it should give a decent amount of mana back when you untap with it to play commander the following turn

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and the dethrone thingy that pays 3 life for a red mana

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[[treasonous ogre]]

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warped flare
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these fast mana should get your commander as early as you want

novel bramble
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Yeah, even I think this one's broken lol

novel bramble
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Iroh is strong as fuck

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Thats Turn 6

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Still didnt finish my turn., but that's end-step

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after Shadow of the second sun and Wilderness Reclamation

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I cast Lumra after Second sun trigger, before Wilderness

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I have a flash enabler

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Completely insane turn potential. Once I started popping off... I popped off.

novel bramble
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Another one. Finale of Devastation X=10, Storm 12

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Also theres a Vivi in the deck so when Finale resolves I have basically infinite mana

warped flare
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i think veyran is too much work XD

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oh wow

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you got the storm emblem off too

novel bramble
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So far Ozai looks to be pretty good when uninterrupted

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T7 kills almost every time

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One example of a Exsanguinate X=20 with Solphim on board

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Someone died to Bulkupx2 too 2 turns ago

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Theory but doable

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Since Ozai fly

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Braid of Fire+Victory chimes is brutal when Ozai is unanswered

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Another one, Crackle for 7+4=11x5=55 damage to 7 targets

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I don't think I wouldnt be interacted at all here, but enchantments are harder to get rid of (Fated wouldve 100% be destroyed in the 3 turns that it stayed without doing anything)

warped flare
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isnt solphim irrelevant here? since its not damage (for exsan)

warped flare
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so 7 x 5 + 4 = 39

novel bramble
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Oh fuck, you're right. Good to know now.

warped flare
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is your Toph deck [[the first metal bender]] still going on

zealous ridgeBOT
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Legendary Creature โ€” Human Warrior Ally
Nontoken artifacts you control are lands in addition to their other types. (They don't gain the ability to manat for mana.)
At the beginning of your end step, earthbend 2. (Target land you control becomes a 0/0 creature with haste that's still a land. Put two +1/+1 counters on it. When it dies or is exiled, return it to the battlefield tapped.)
3/3

warped flare
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i would do [[cage sun]] for the troll end-the-game

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warped flare
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two card infinite-combo = DRAW with Split second

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i can almost certain that earthbending is the most broken mechanic from ATLA set

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even without that creature to make creature tap for extra

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[[lumbering worldwagon]] look nice there too with/wo haste

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warped flare
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as for [[fated power]]

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warped flare
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it s definite a good fun card although the synergy isnt the best when you dont have mutliple instances of burn similar to impact tremor

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if [[torbran red fekk]] is the baseline

zealous ridgeBOT
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No card found for โ€œtorbran red fekkโ€

warped flare
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[[torbran red fell]]

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warped flare
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as well as the lowest cost:rate

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firepower is basically only better because of flash and adjustable cost

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i doubt red has that proliferate synergy in general

novel bramble
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Yeah, as much as I like the spell its just not the right deck for it.

novel bramble
warped flare
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rip

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i am doing it with 3 cards using ashaya + karn, all in the 99

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its troll enough that it fits the theme

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worst use of ashaya in the 99? yes i know

warped flare
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[[Mightform Harmonizer ]] was this in one of your decks

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i feel like this is [[exponitial growth]] on repeat

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novel bramble
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Toph doing earthbending pretty good

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Didnt take a picture of last goldfishing but it was an easy T7 win

novel bramble
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Warp effect with Earthbending is interesting. You don't lose anything by warping stuff in as long as you earthbend them

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I'm sure we'll see more warp cards when StarTrek comes out

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But for Toph, any warp effect with a strong ETB means you'll trigger it twice on the same turn

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Worth checking it out, although I don't have any space for more mechanics

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Not sure its worth warping in big vanilla bois like [[Bygone Colossus]]

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novel bramble
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its too slow without haste anyway

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Welp, just checked, the amount of Artifacts with warp is extremely low, and the most "interesting" one was the Colossus lol. Nothing stands out

warped flare
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yeah, i think it just enchantment and generic warp/void stuff

novel bramble
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Im a lucky fucker

novel bramble
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You were right btw; [[The Archimandrite]] deck I've made suck ass. Not enough card draw. 4 times played and 4 times it didn't do anything. I spite killed someone, which wasnt the play at all, just because I couldnt do jack and I was constantly targeted (With a fucking Eminence commander on board no less)

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Legendary Creature โ€” Human Advisor
At the beginning of your upkeep, you gain X life, where X is the number of cards in your hand minus 4.
Whenever you gain life, each Advisor, Artificer, and Monk you control gains vigilance and gets +X/+0 until end of turn, where X is the amount of life you gained.
Tap three untapped Advisors, Artificers, and/or Monks you control: Draw a card.
0/5

warped flare
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oh wow, who was the eominence here? vampire? thats the one i see the most

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i think i get targetted less when my cards are revealed to be so bad, but depends on the $player $ i am up against i do need certain level to counteract

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the best moment are when i can convince my opponents to kill each other as i generate the smallest crappy value engine

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basically, if i have to spend 3-4 mana to get a card, i can still somewhat manage, but by the time i need 7 mana to draw a card top deck a land then i am screwed

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long story short, low quality card allows for a lower-safer threat assessment from the table and increase my chance to win as the underdog

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as much as i am unsure about the potential of archimandrite, i would focus very hard on the boardstate with tribal, even the weakest monks are fine. then find ways to outvalue my opponent without looking like i can pump everything by +10 and alpha strike

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creature/tokens -> card draw -> mass life gain -> combat. focus from the bottom to the top among those abilities. the handsize -4 life gain is awful

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and without a 6+ creature board, the +X/0 pump is abysmal

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white go wide> red go tall> blue draw

novel bramble
warped flare
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ah that one sometimes get away with drawing aggro

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it shouldnt but it does

novel bramble
novel bramble
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Worst part is he started with solring+ signet and wasnt interacted with much. Every turn I wanted to destroy his ramp the other clown kept destroying my board.

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And the other guy had a Doubling season on board. Like, why are you even destroying my shit?

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He probably had PTSD from the time I destroyed him with Queen Marchesa. Only interaction I ever had with the guy.

warped flare
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๐Ÿคฃ rip what piece was on your side

novel bramble
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[[Rune Tail's essence]]

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novel bramble
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Commander, 2 monks and nothing else

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I was also last player and missed a landdrop

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It was the second time he targeted my stuff while other dangerous shit was on board too. Really felt personal

warped flare
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feels like archimandrite is a green deck

warped flare
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kitsune i can understand since it looks like a thing that fog all the damage coming your direction

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but its functionally a pillow fort card; if you dont touch it, it doesnt affect you

novel bramble
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Welp at least my day ended with a Roaming Throne pull, so pretty good overall

novel bramble
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Its been a while but here's my last update on Frodo and Sam

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I'm also thinking on removing Austere Command for [[Retribution of the Meek]] and Swords to Plowshares for [[Syr Ginger the meal ender]]

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novel bramble
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I'm also thinking on adding [[Bumi's Feast Lecture]], could be awesome, could be meh, but I usually end up with a ton of food still

zealous ridgeBOT
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Sorcery โ€” Lesson
Create a Food token. Then earthbend X, where X is twice the number of Foods you control. (A Food token is an artifact with "mana2, manat, Sacrifice this token:You gain 3 life." To earthbend X, target land you control becomes a 0/0 creature with haste that's still a land. Put X +1/+1 counters on it. When it dies or is exiled, return it to the battlefield tapped.)

novel bramble
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Sadly, [[The Cabbage Merchant]] Costs too much

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warped flare
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mostly because it can clone and all triggers are exponential

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do you know how long it takes your proxy to make and ship? like 2 weeks? from submit?

warped flare
warped flare
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thats a very big token; btw does it check for the type "food" or does it need the token named "Food"?

zealous ridgeBOT
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No card found for โ€œshelob, motherโ€

warped flare
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[[shelob child of]]

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Legendary Creature โ€” Spider Demon
Deathtouch, ward mana2
Other Spiders you control have deathtouch and ward mana2.
Whenever another creature dealt damage this turn by a Spider you controlled dies, create a token that's a copy of that creature, except it's a Food artifact with "mana2, manat, Sacrifice this token: You gain 3 life," and it loses all other card types.
8/8

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[[?bumi feast lecture]]

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novel bramble
novel bramble
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ffs stop me

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Anyway, since Roku triggers on any player attacking, I wanted to go a politics route, Goad, and fun combat tricks

warped flare
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XD "unstoppable"

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i will check it out to see what you can do with red mana on opponent's turn

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[[Panacea]] wuts dis....

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[[heal]]

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warped flare
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personally i dont like [[electro ass battery]], spiderman UB aside it turns fire bending into easy mode

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warped flare
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but mainly that it makes my jank [[horizon stone]] even more obsolete

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warped flare
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powerlevel wise, it would just powercrep cards out of the 99

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and it has the 3 card infinite with aggr assault

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with iroh i think i would do more on the "flash/ fire breathing theme" or something that feels martial art related or fun stuff [[radiant performer]]

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novel bramble
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FOund it

warped flare
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lel i thought you will

novel bramble
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Hey man, Merry Christmas, here's what I've been working on lately. Didn't have a lot of time to make a deck so this is the first one since Roku

warped flare
warped flare
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since its mostly generic good stuff, there are no obvious cuts but every cut is probably going to be something generic/less efficient on that note
[[ophimancer]] no etb, few sac outlet, has pillowfort effect already

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warped flare
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commander can take control of basically anything targattable even if it leaves the field

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[[thieving amalgam]] fun for thief decks but its a 7 drop

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Creature โ€” Ape Snake
At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep, you manifest the top card of that player's library. (Put it onto the battlefield face down as a 2/2 creature. Turn it face up any time for its mana cost if it's a creature card.)
Whenever a creature you control but don't own dies, its owner loses 2 life and you gain 2 life.
6/7

warped flare
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and creatures stolen doesnt die as easily when they cant be sac'ed

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although it is at least generating it's own face downs unlike ... say [[grave betrayal]] a pet card that straight up does nothing even tho it might be thematic in the right deck

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warped flare
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if i count amalgam as a win con, i would then try to take out something else (which is likely to cost less mana to do powerful things)

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the one nice thing is that it can let you do damage to the player without taking monarch away from them

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idk how often you want to take monarch because its either 1) take monarch for end step draw 1 or 2) take a creature (much stronger at instant speed) so either way it is going to give you a thing

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i can see [[junji midnight sky]] [[wake the dead]] having a place esp with clones

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warped flare
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which i would prioritze over single target removal such as [[feed the swarm]] at sorcery speed or cheap removal that can get rid of creatures

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warped flare
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when there are every 0 cost creature non-destroy effect, [[rescuipt]] is kind of overcosted unless the main target is to destroy an artifact for good

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No card found for โ€œrescuiptโ€

warped flare
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[[resculpt]] derp

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[[ghostquater]]

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okay those are may i thought some of the land destroy can FORCE search so that they are stronger with oppo agent

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so demolition field is fine as is

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overall, i dont see bad cards. Just goin to be power creep upgrades and beyond with chasing for that $$ card

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to add synergy it would cut out lot of the cheap casting interactive stuff that are flexible and somewhat versatile

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i do think that the commander can be played with more political tools and less "basic" good stuff pile

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how to take control of the best creature is one of the hardest thing to solve

novel bramble
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[[Come back wrong]]

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novel bramble
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Resculpt and Feed were in there because I wanted to try the [[Muddle the mixture]] Toolbox I once saw. I liked the versatility. [[Nuclear Fallout]] was in there too just for that but I eventually cut

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novel bramble
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I've been sick the past 4 days so I havent worked on anything since

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Biggest question for the deck I had is about the GCs

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My goal is for people to hit each other or avoid hitting me for monarch; Is there a point in having monarch with Notion Thief on board?

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Same with Narset

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Removes the incentive to attack others when monarch does jack but lose a creature

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Tergrid is also a choice, but very oppressive

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Could also just cut GCS and call it a day, I don't think it makes the deck any worse

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Also Resculpt can be an answer to somebody taking back their creature, so I exile it and get a 4/4 for it at the same time

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[[Treacherous Urge]] is probably one of my favourite here.

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novel bramble
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Yeah I'll remove Notion and Narset. I'll add Fierce since its free

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I'll play the deck and see if it needs a 3rd GC

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One weakness of the deck; Anything I steal will probably be tapped. and it feels bad to add untappers to the deck.

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zealous ridgeBOT
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Legendary Creature โ€” Elf Wizard
At the beginning of your end step, target opponent gains control of up to one target creature you control. Put two +1/+1 counters on it and tap it. It's goaded for the rest of the game and it gains "This creature can't be sacrificed." (It attacks each combat if able and attacks a player other than you if able.)
Whenever a creature you own but don't control attacks, you draw a card.
3/3

warped flare
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and discard type effect is just underwhelming in commander most of the time

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just saw this new card [[omni changeling]] the new clone to copy* sparkdouble?

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warped flare
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with that would be so good

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convoke is a bit annoying if you have no baord but clones are already useless when you have no board

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also any broken double trigger ability tribal that uses roaming throne

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most of the new cards that stands out to me is blue ex. [[mirrorfoam]]

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warped flare
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all artifact/creature tokens into basically any thing on the field

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INSTANT speed, how many board wipes you want to dodge? oh you just want to keep lands? or this broken game changing permanent, or just a green/red doubler/tripler

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that MAY NOT even be a card in your deck?

warped flare
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so no one else draws from the monarch but you

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and you dont actually need to keep monarch to draw

novel bramble
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But then my commander doesnt do its thing.

warped flare
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i can see two ways
one is never take monarch, keep the creature
another is have everyone fight over monarch

novel bramble
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I prefer those two ways

warped flare
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because you want the one with the biggest block to "Keep" monarch

novel bramble
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I think the commander himself is already a deterrent to others wanting to take monarch too

warped flare
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thus the creature you stole stays under your control

novel bramble
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so no point in adding even more reasons to not wanting monarch

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[[polymorph]] if you need to remove something or weird swap [[justiposition]]

zealous ridgeBOT
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No card found for โ€œjustipositionโ€

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[[juxtipostion]]

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No card found for โ€œjuxtipostionโ€

novel bramble
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Thats extremely pricey for a destroy effect

warped flare
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well there are others

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but more so for the morphed into something else, you gain value from what you stole without giving back

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the "capture the flag" feel

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without the simple sacrifice

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ultimately it is sacrifice without the word

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[[juxtaposion]]

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warped flare
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ahhh

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[[domineer will]][[rein of power]]

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i wonder if [[illusionist gambit]] can sneak in, probably too fetch

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[[cultural exchange]] is a weird one but high cost

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[[shifting grift]] cost too much

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[[decoy gambit]] that just a cool card i find during name the search

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[[Dredge the Mire]]

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it's the bad version of [[Seize the Spotlight]]?

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warped flare
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i feel like [[maralen fae ascendant]] is very close to evelyn and you are interested in the potential of it

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Legendary Creature โ€” Elf Faerie Noble
Flying
Whenever Maralen or another Elf or Faerie you control enters, exile the top two cards of target opponent's library.
Once each turn, you may cast a spell with mana value less than or equal to the number of Elves and Faeries you control from among cards exiled with Maralen this turn without paying its mana cost.
4/5

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and today i learnt this is a card and its cheap [[Sawhorn Nemesis]]

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it doubles ALL sources to the choosen player

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oooh and i can always do [[stuffy doll]] ๐Ÿ˜Š

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the "I choose you deck" XD

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whats that thing from 40k "creature attacks last choosen player has menance"

novel bramble
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Never got the notifications for some reason. Yeah Maralen looks pretty fun. I love sultai colors and I'm not stuck playing elves

warped flare
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it was this
[[Triarch Stalker]]

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novel bramble
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Does it last until next turn for every players? that's a nice card

warped flare
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Creature attacking that player has menace Now replace 'that" with the chosen

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[[sawhorn nemesis]] oh hey i mentioned this card before

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does this work with [[scrambleverse]] XD

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too bad cant have [[true name nemesis]] in a [[saskia the unyielding]] commander deck

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[[stuffy doll]] and the [[guilty conscience]] infinite

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[[booby trap]] is revealing ... every card they draw

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[[nyxathid]] has a big down side so its better to avoid having it enter

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but as simple as [[the rack]]

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or that unique mechanic [[stalking leonin]]

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[[skyshroud war beast]] is about the best creature for this theme

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i guess there is also this recent card [[zenos yae galvus]]

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Legendary Creature โ€” Human Noble Warrior
My First Friend โ€” When Zenos yae Galvus enters, choose a creature an opponent controls. Until end of turn, creatures other than Zenos yae Galvus and the chosen creature get -2/-2.
When the chosen creature leaves the battlefield, transform Zenos yae Galvus.
4/4

Shinryu, Transcendent Rival
Legendary Creature โ€” Dragon
Flying
As this creature transforms into Shinryu, choose an opponent.
Burning Chains โ€” When the chosen player loses the game, you win the game.
"The heavens are too small a field for our dance. Let us transcend this mortal coil!"
8/8

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i can build a "I choose You deck"

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fiirst time seeing this card [[curse rack]]

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novel bramble
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Limitations comes with the fact that there's 2 other dudes in the game. Not bad but limited in options

novel bramble
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On my side I've pretty much upgraded the new Blight Curse Precon:

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I've changed my mentality on lands, going for more basics

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Ironically enough the first game that I did after changing the lands in Queen Marchesa had a Winter Moon player

novel bramble
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Anyway, for Auntie Ool, I'm debating the ramp if you wanna chime in.

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I've removed Sol Ring, and right now I'm looking into maybe removing Arcane Signet to add another 2 mana dork.

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Riskier, but it gives me more Blight targets

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so they need to have at the very least 2 Toughness, but preferably more than that

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which is why I'm debating cards like [[Sylvan Caryatid]] over Bloom Tender and Hardbristle Bandit, which are great in this deck but can't take a single -1-1

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novel bramble
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[[Biophagus]] is also pretty good. I run some Proliferate, and it offset the -1-1 counters I might put

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novel bramble
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Gameplay will always try to T2 Ramp into T3 Auntie

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land ramp count so high [[edge of autume]]

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is there too much mana and not much to do with it late game?

novel bramble
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You usually have a lot of draw with the commander.

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Get it out T3 the start putting counters on stuff

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btw i really want to get
[[ twelfth doctor]] but dont have deck fori t

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i feel like so many cards i want to get belongs more in the collection rather than to play

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but i also want to play them if i got a copy [[!explosive singularity]]

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a foil one of those looks nice even though i usually hate foils

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is [[auntie ool cursewretch]] one of those very flexible 99 decks?

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or you need lot of synergy in order to get the deck going

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because i built a jank deck where the commander is doing a decent amount of work but i still need an engine of some sort

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in order for the deck to run

novel bramble
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Well if you don't -1-1 counters the commander doesnt do shit

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yeah, so you do need to keep a board of creatures with -1 synergy

novel bramble
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preferably yes

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I thought about some protection spells

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Wrap in Vigor and ofc Heroic

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But I dunno. I'd rather draw another synergy

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I also took this dude for a ride for the first time

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Holy shit I love the mind games he does

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Lost to a shity Niv mizzev combo but it was hilarious to see people wrack their brains on how to deal with Garland on board

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glad you like some mini games

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i wonder whats the chance where you can steal a clone from an opponents' deck and copy your garland XD that way it is a "creature you control but dont own"

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[[tempt with reflection]] and [[switchroo]] XD

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novel bramble
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Then opposition agent makes this pretty easy to pull off

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Speaking of, do I need to exile what they were searching for? for example if they play Three Visits, do I have to search in their library for a forest?

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nvm its written in the rules of Opp agent

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Still possible

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[[Bribery]] works as well

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Garland is basically reverse [[jon irenicus]] in those terms

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Legendary Creature โ€” Elf Wizard
At the beginning of your end step, target opponent gains control of up to one target creature you control. Put two +1/+1 counters on it and tap it. It's goaded for the rest of the game and it gains "This creature can't be sacrificed." (It attacks each combat if able and attacks a player other than you if able.)
Whenever a creature you own but don't control attacks, you draw a card.
3/3

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how many things were you able to steal with [[!garland, royal kidnapper]]

novel bramble
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In my first game, I stole 2 creatures. an [[Agitator ant]] which was very useful, and the Yshtola Commander of the almost bracket 4 deck

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novel bramble
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[[curiosity]] and Yshtola is broken as fuck btw

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you didnt know XD

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i guess since you proxy you ignore lot of price tags

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i had a full play set of this one bulk from morningtide or something

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that got to over $10 each

novel bramble
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Nah, I often check if it would be better to just buy the cards before

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there are like 5 ish curious effect i remember of the top of my head

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i think for yshtola, the 3 cmc flash enchantment is basically the best

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but in general its the same card

novel bramble
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Yeah

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he had a Delney on board too

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but anyway, since he was archenemy, we got blindsided by the Niv Mizzet dude

warped flare
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you won that?

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and i meant stealing more than one creature at the same time

novel bramble
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No, he summoned 2 niv mizzet and they go infinite

warped flare
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oh rip

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i think the jankiest thing i have seen with curiousity is probaly [[fiungal shambler]]

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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To steal more than one creature with Garland's effect I need to blink him and target the same opponent for monarch

warped flare
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my playset is called [[helm of the ghastlord]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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i think its kinda too mean to pair with [[fate unraveler]] but then ofc

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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But I loved the interaction that I had over the game. They all took an extra minute thinking wtf should they do.

warped flare
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they printed yshtola in the command zone

novel bramble
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But they saw me as more treatening than I was

warped flare
novel bramble
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Most of my games that night were like that. Since I help with the rules at the table they assume that my decks are super strong

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usually they are though

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but I don't optimize at 100% anymore

warped flare
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something i dont see 99% of magic content creator mention is how:
more problematic cards, essentially puts you at a much higher threat level than you actually are. if you cannot uphold that archenemy status, it is probably not worth it (in terms of pulling of a win). If you can 1 vs 3, then there is another issue at the table

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i think this is more of a problem with matching with randos

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many of those "run more removals, dies to removal" is so out of context

novel bramble
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I think the problem doesnt come with people playing sangerous commanders, but the rando's innability to understand how dangerous they are

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Guy had a [[Scion of the urdragon]] that never got targeted all game long

zealous ridgeBOT
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Legendary Creature โ€” Dragon Avatar
Flying
mana2: Search your library for a Dragon permanent card and put it into your graveyard. If you do, Scion of the Ur-Dragon becomes a copy of that card until end of turn. Then shuffle.
"I am the blood of the ur-dragon, coursing through all dragonkind."
4/4

warped flare
novel bramble
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I told them very early that It can go almost infinite with a ham sandwich

warped flare
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what do you work as irl?

novel bramble
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I work in Healthcare

warped flare
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or certain style of doing things that fit your personality

warped flare
novel bramble
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I like policing but I know its not good for my gameplan

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Removing the Sol Ring, killing the draw engine, destroying the Smothering Tithe, etc.

warped flare
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i think i like to "take care of people" too

novel bramble
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I'd be a good dentist

warped flare
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i can be the one that recommand people to your clinic

novel bramble
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1600's Dentist

warped flare
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"Here's their bag of teeth, it took me a while to collect them"

novel bramble
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Call me the Mountain

warped flare
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my history score is so low i cant understand that 1600s reference

warped flare
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i prefer less/no responsibility from the position so hourly worker suit me better

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but i am artist by heart

novel bramble
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Depend on my group really

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If I feel the table is low-level IQ I might police more than usual

warped flare
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XD

novel bramble
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but good players know to hit the Turn 1 solring player

warped flare
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superior complex intensifies

novel bramble
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Nah I'm very impartial

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I know the average players at my LGS

warped flare
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i guess, just the phrasing "low level IQ"

novel bramble
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Well you quickly notice the less good players

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They dont interact by fear of not doing the right thing, etc.

warped flare
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"Noob, low level, mid, veteran, elite"

novel bramble
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I'm a good Mid

warped flare
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yeah, but then you have to run all the removals yourself

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i am advanced-causal, often confused with filty causal?

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actually idk what filthy causal means tbh

novel bramble
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I make game-ending mistakes sometimes just because my knowledge of combos is not quite there yet

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the other day a guy played a card that allowed him to combo off, and I countered the wrong part

warped flare
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i make impulsive mistakes in hindersight due to "not wanting to be optimal on KO'ing a player" but i often forget i am playing a red deck/fair magic win by combat damage

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so player removal is my best form of removal

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maybe i need to. play / brew with voltron more

novel bramble
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Thats fine, depends on the deck

warped flare
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but with many side plans

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that are more fun than voltron

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like no 11 double strike but more like 40 damage unblocker one shot

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with any creatures so it doesnt need to be my commander

novel bramble
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I'm thinking about maybe making a voltron [[Yes man]] deck

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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i have actually put together two combo decks recently but now the problem is that their overall damage is so low i cant win outside of comboing off

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and with no proper tutors its really weird

novel bramble
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Yeah

warped flare
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be like drawing 15 cards and its jank

novel bramble
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combo without tutor is playing casino magic

warped flare
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i think tutors can be good for the game similar to how stax can be good

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the problem isnt the tutor itself

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but the optimization and efficiency

novel bramble
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Yeah well depends on bracket

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B4 combo deck without tutors is just not a b4

warped flare
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B1, the non existenting mythic beast need tutors

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when your entire deck is so shit

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the best card is still the worst crap you can almost cast

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i did [[weird harvest]] with X = 3

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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if i could get 6, i probably would have been able to mill out the player who tutored [[bane of progess]] and got rid of my winning board with [[anthem of champion]] and [[patchwork banner]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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losing like 10 power there really forced me into milling people out

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and then because i didnt focus all my mill onto one person, he got rid of my turtle from FF which is basically a cool way of fog for 8 mana

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whats that called

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[[ancient adamantoise]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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i had to use that to counter the toxic poison combat damage trigger

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but an 8 drop in commander just a pile of wasted mana

novel bramble
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Gotta cheat it in

warped flare
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i am better of with [[rapidhydrzation]] every game

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No card found for โ€œrapidhydrzationโ€

warped flare
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i am a fair player who like to hard cast my [[it that betrays]] and [[jin gitaxis core argur]] on curve

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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if i want to cheat i would be a Cedh flash hulk combo player

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do you play on spell table

novel bramble
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Or a regular ol' b3 player

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Rarely but I have my setup for it. I told you about it a while ago

warped flare
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i dont think people have the incentive to cheat in commander but i guess off camera you can do so many things

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i forgot the last time you said anything

novel bramble
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The player quality is leagues behind LGS yeah

warped flare
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i am still trying to figure the camera setting like my boomer parents

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well, one of my LGS power is pretty fucked but it's been consistently fun 95+% of the time

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when i won with that turn 1 top deck sol ring and T2 top deck forgotten ancient untouched the entire game

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and i played 0 removal that game

novel bramble
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I dislike what Sol Ring does to the game

warped flare
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hypocrite for having sol ring in every one of your deck

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๐Ÿ˜’

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jk

novel bramble
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Not in my Auntie Ool

warped flare
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i dont mind having it but i do count it as one of the game changers

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so i rarely run it in B2 decks or decks that is not building synergy with either big mana, artifact etc

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and B3 with no game changer is my most fun B3 deck challenge restriciton

novel bramble
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Some decks can work without it just fine and you wouldnt see the difference with it in anyway

warped flare
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still working on that double 99 no overlap same commander so 198 double deck

novel bramble
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But, allowing a player to drop a 4-drop T2 will always be a problem

warped flare
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i think people just need more sol ring hate

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i would love the idea of [[praetor's grasp]] a sol ring

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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to get my own with [[artificer prodigy]]

zealous ridgeBOT
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Legendary Creature โ€” Human Artificer
Whenever you cast an artifact spell, you may search your graveyard, hand, and/or library for a card with the same name as that spell and put it onto the battlefield. If you search your library this way, shuffle.
A sojourn through time gave dark inspiration to one gifted young mind.
4/4

novel bramble
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[[Thada adel]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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well if you want to be mono colour -> artifact deck

novel bramble
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and that flying mermaid that steals artifacts

warped flare
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i dislike seeing the commander and knowing more than 65% of what the deck is going to do

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flying mermaid?

novel bramble
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[[Thieving skydiver]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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ah yeah

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merfolk =/= mermaid in my book

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i actually never got something nice from it ๐Ÿ˜ข

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just my luck

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oh right i think i was going to mention that 2 drop artifact

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come in with -1 counter on one creature, proliferate

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kinda meh?

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even in auntie

warped flare
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assert dominance incorrectly

warped flare
novel bramble
warped flare
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its a breath of fresh air when the nice-guy type of player using some crazy combo-piece but isnt actually playing combo

novel bramble
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The proliferate can be good, but proliferating in Auntie is more of a "Win more" effect

warped flare
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i think i only know so few of them tho

novel bramble
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I might remove [[Atomize]] for that reason

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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weird enough they are all Asians

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i think i dont mind proliferate but i dislike overcosted effects

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unless you are flooding yourself

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i really only get flooded when i play 38 lands play a commander than doesnt draw cards or some sort of card selection in the engine

novel bramble
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Exactly what hapenned to me yesterday lol. 34 cards that put -1 counters and I drew 1 the entire game

warped flare
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i be like 'why am i top decking 10 lands when i only have 20 left in the library'

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my commander gives me 5 mana per turn, where is all this blue/black mana coming from

warped flare
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got myself a played copy of [[enduring renewal]] maybe i can do some combo with it

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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even if not infinite

novel bramble
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It happens. Not statistically probable

warped flare
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ahh unskilled shuffling didnt stack your deck like the avg commander player XD

novel bramble
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Yeah. Unlike that guy that very often start with solring

warped flare
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i often end up with 35 lands after putting in 12+ ramp sources (no green) so if i get screwed i know its my fault

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for the most part i actually prefer sol ring T2

novel bramble
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I just like playing a land every turn.

warped flare
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i only care for the first 5 lands, if i dont have draw at that point i think i have some deck building issues

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like even the overcosted draw spells [[commerce the end game]] should be somewhat playable at that point

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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while green can completely avoid the "miss another land" drop problem with all the cultivate effs

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you actually love land tutors yourself XD

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ultimate counter to Opp agent, [[stranglehold]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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dang i want a symmetrical version of this

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and the leyline T0 ability

novel bramble
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Yeah I like land ramp. Cant be destroyed

warped flare
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๐Ÿคฆ

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abusing that social stigma of MLD

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time for some landfall decks

novel bramble
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Not abusing anything. Im just playing green

warped flare
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but i do love [[evolution sage]]

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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MLD doesnt affect green as much anyway

warped flare
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so much more fun than [[scute swarm]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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the problem is ETB

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and the land "drew"

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not the land-mana itself

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the supposed counter [[confounding conundrum]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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ironically is best in green [[yorock, descrated]]

zealous ridgeBOT
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No card found for โ€œyorock, descratedโ€

warped flare
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[[yarock, descrated]]

zealous ridgeBOT
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No card found for โ€œyarock, descratedโ€

warped flare
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[[yarok, descrated]] fuk

zealous ridgeBOT
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No card found for โ€œyarok, descratedโ€

warped flare
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(โ•ฏยฐโ–กยฐ)โ•ฏ๏ธต โ”ปโ”โ”ป

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[[yarok, the descrated]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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ah i missed some letters

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i want a Ghastlord lock with Yshtola that doesnt feel overly oppressive but i havent find the right one yet

warped flare
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i am doing the [[toph hardheaded teacher]] jank

zealous ridgeBOT
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Legendary Creature โ€” Human Warrior Ally
When Toph enters, you may discard a card. If you do, return target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard to your hand.
Whenever you cast a spell, earthbend 1. If that spell is a Lesson, put an additional +1/+1 counter on that land. (Target land you control becomes a 0/0 creature with haste that's still a land. Put a +1/+1 counter on it. When it dies or is exiled, return it to the battlefield tapped.)
3/4

novel bramble
warped flare
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i think i played one game with yarok and never again

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i know its bad but it was beyond bad

novel bramble
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The only deck I have that can return lands from grave is [[Glarb calamity]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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i basically storm, stax, locked, and mill, reanimate all graveyards, make sure theres no counter play, and still just doing jank synergy

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opponent's hand got completely denied with discard

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and my protections are all flickers

warped flare
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i only have interest in that frog in the 99

novel bramble
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Otherwise whats that blue card that lets you draw whenever someone cast a green spell?

warped flare
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oh i got that one, that was the main reason why my weird harvest was bad and got someone bane of progress

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to destroy my [[insight]]

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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Yeah

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Great card btw

warped flare
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yeah i randomly encountered all 3 players playing green

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although it did put like all the aggro onto me

novel bramble
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There's always a green player

warped flare
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as power level goes up

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i heard the most popular is technically black

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even without lot of tutors

novel bramble
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in cedh? Blue

warped flare
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yeah thats true

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but Cedh is again like less than 5% of commander

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and has their own meta

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its basically not actual commander format that follow commande rrules

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leaving for a bit will be back

novel bramble
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54 commanders in the top 100 of EDHREC has green in its colors

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59 if we just take the most populars from the past month

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funniest part? its the 2nd lowest LOL

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Black is highest

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at 64 commanders in the top 100

warped flare
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so yeah, by stats, black is more popular

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although i am really unsure how accurate edhrec is/where it pull data from

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and i am sure each Local has their own "meta"

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or people who invest more time and effort into the game, travel around more to experience different types/ online across the world etc

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would have a very diff sense of power level and competitiveness

warped flare
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i believe glarb and [[helga]] goes in the same deck

zealous ridgeBOT
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Legendary Creature โ€” Frog Druid
Whenever you cast a creature spell with mana value 4 or greater, you draw a card, gain 1 life, and put a +1/+1 counter on Helga.
manat: Add X mana of any one color, where X is Helga's power. Spend this mana only to cast creature spells with mana value 4 or greater or creature spells with manax in their mana costs.
1/3

warped flare
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commander? idk can be Miku for all i care

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or some Karuga companion

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4 cmc leyline flash creature tribal with storm [[intruder alarm]]

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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my meta is very different, but I see the top 100 commander often enough

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Some are way more popular than others though. Nobody plays Atraxa for example

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Never seen a single Edgar Markov either

warped flare
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wow i seen my shares of edgar markov

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although most of the time they are immediately dealt with

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yet it swings the game in a weird direction so their impact lasted even after they lose; i only remember like 1/8 edgar game that actually won?

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atraxa i think most people usually just failed to find a "fun" build to build around and i remember there's this youtube video on trying to make atraxa fun

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but i dont recall what it was focused on so idk how good that build is

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and i see progressively less atraxa since it does have certain basic mana requirement and balance within the deck for it to run well, most people fail that first part, making the deck playable

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so getting colour screwed/mana screwed is already unfun, on top of becoming archenemy in no time

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i think for some types of commander/ avg mana curve, i like to have at least 1.5 times if not 2 times my commander's CMC worth of mana on my side

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so if i dont have like 6-8 mana to work with for atraxa, i think i wouldnt be able to pull a lot of things.

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also lack of focused and clear direction that has perfect synergy with counters

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Tidus is basically what fun atraxa is to me

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dont need 4 colours, just consistent proliferate
a easy to cast commander that comes out early and start the plan of go wide smash face

warped flare
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was [[dawnhand dissident]] in the precon?

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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i like the free/repeatable blight which in auntie translates to "Draw 1, surveil 1" effectively looking at 2 cards each time

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if it is a blight after the effect type of spell, then it would be "do something, cantrip" which is slightly worse

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unless its multi target proliferate

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btw, i edited my discord profile for once, is it fitting

novel bramble
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It doesnt come with, but its in my sideboard. Its a very nice card with some recursion too. This is probably going in when I take out Contagion Clasp

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I might put in [[High perfect morcant]] just for the "boardwipe" for 4

zealous ridgeBOT
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Legendary Creature โ€” Elf Noble
Whenever High Perfect Morcant or another Elf you control enters, each opponent blights 1. (They each put a -1/-1 counter on a creature they control.)
Tap three untapped Elves you control: Proliferate. Activate only as a sorcery. (Choose any number of permanents and/or players, then give each another counter of each kind already there.)
4/4

novel bramble
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Dont have much elves but her effect is pretty good with Auntie

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at the same time its just one per opponent

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so maybe not

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[[Mikaeus the unhallowed]] is also pretty good here

zealous ridgeBOT
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Legendary Creature โ€” Zombie Cleric
Intimidate (This creature can't be blocked except by artifact creatures and/or creatures that share a color with it.)
Whenever a Human deals damage to you, destroy it.
Other non-Human creatures you control get +1/+1 and have undying. (When a creature with undying dies, if it had no +1/+1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a +1/+1 counter on it.)
5/5

novel bramble
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Deck doesnt have a lot of boardwipe protection, this could help

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Lots of good cards to consider

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[[Soul immolation]] with [[Tree of perdition]] is also hilarious

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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its probably worth consider you want fast mana and mana dorks

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personally i would probably stay away from mana dorks in a deck that kills them so easily

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soul immolation was one of the few $$ card i bought this set similar because its basica;;y [[chandra's ingition]] if idc about the creature doing the damage

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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and better yet since it doesnt hurt your other creature

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i dont really find tree that interesting in itself, unless my deck already have some toughness matters or life control synergy

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here it is more like a 2 card combo

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or a creature to turn counters into card draw

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i guess since format is 40 life, a 4 drop with a powerful effect like that is nice to work with

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-1 counters are so much slower than [[tragic slip]] tho

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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or whats that [[over kill]] + bite one shot combo

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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I also wanna change Delighted Halfling to a 3Toughness mana dork when possible

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And they need to tap for any color too

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T3 auntie is too important to risk not having the right colors

warped flare
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๐Ÿค”

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most of what i can think of are those 1 drop in green that somewhat gives you land into play and often has around 0/3 base stats

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but i usually prefer a scaling late game with just the 2 mana ramp or creature-landfall synergy with steve

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if you invole every 2 drop that can fix your colour your option increases

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in a weird way, i guess you can somehwat count ignoble hierarch with an extra toughness to the table just because you can attack b4 blight

novel bramble
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you can check the sideboard to see the mana dorks I'm looking at

warped flare
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gtg 2 work ๐Ÿ‘‹ ๐Ÿƒโ€โžก๏ธ

warped flare
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waiting to find a [[Wickersmith's Tools]] in my LGS, since i expect to see lot of precons/-1-1 theme going around, maybe i can turn this into a counterplay on them
it is one heck of a mana rock that can be a win con. or at the very least i can use it with a counter matters/proliferate commander

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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no luck yet

warped flare
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nvm i find one jsut now

#

๐Ÿฅณ

novel bramble
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Comes in the BLight Curse Precon

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I removed it since it was 3 mana ramp

warped flare
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yeah you hate those slow ramp

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i care more about the -1 counters going around and its a utility rock that may become a threat even if i dont have a big -1 counter focus

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its not like my opponent are going to stop pumping out -1 counters just because i play that

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when they kill my board, i can make another one with all those 2/2s

novel bramble
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Yeah its a nice card; fits the deck nicely. I just pushed the T3 Auntie into T4 put counters on stuff/draw engine more over late game stuff. I barely have artifacts

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I'm even looking into replacing Arcane Signet with another Dork

warped flare
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oh i think this will do [[harvester druid]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
#

just a card lying around on my desks

novel bramble
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Doesnt fit

warped flare
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ofc there are tons of better options

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but its your nerfed arcane signet

novel bramble
#

Probably the worst 2mv dork I've ever seen lol

warped flare
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<.< fine

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i like my free janks

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they are same thing

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but one cost me $ the other one i find in the trash

novel bramble
#

XD

warped flare
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i cant find a single

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YGO on motorcyle meme

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in the discord gif

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they probably banned smoking too since there are childen on this social app

novel bramble
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Nothing beats the classic

warped flare
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but its card game on motorcycle

novel bramble
#

Made 0 sense too

warped flare
#

which is probably illegal they dont allow texting and driving

novel bramble
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Have you read the manga lol, its downright murder games all the time

warped flare
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"let me make a left turn at the next inte... let me finish reading this card first"

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season 0 or what

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going to eat back later

novel bramble
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Yugioh Manga is just a lot more deaths than the anime

warped flare
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meh

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it was a death game to begin with

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like every card game should be

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although the show did make a lot of the death seems stupid when they always comes back in the end

#

arc V the 5th generation of ygo anime that introduce pendulum summon

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that one had the worse ending in anime history

novel bramble
#

I never finished anything after OG yugioh

warped flare
#

and thats without exageration

#

did you at least watch season 0

novel bramble
#

I barely remember anything beside green hair kaiba

novel bramble
#

Havent watched the anime after S1

warped flare
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i am waiting for the hikari fight

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and the original sound track for it

#

thats going to be somehow more epic than the phoke

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phonk

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dafuq i cant even find that

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where is the hikira dance

#

discord gif so ass

novel bramble
#

Wanna go back in time? Im looking into my good old Hobbits deck

#

Obviously maybe I should wait for the Hobbit set to come out first

#

but my mindset changed a bit since then

#

Here's the current version

#

the extra cards are those I'm considering removing, the cards in sideboard are the ones I'm looking at.

#

I'd prefer changing tag for tag if possible, but tightening the early game is important

#

Things I've learned about my games is that: My whole plan is absolutely shat on if I get boardwiped.

#

Both commanders are too expensive to recast, so strong protection is required.

#

Phasing out cards is the best one. So I'm thinking of adding cards like [[Clever Concealment]], [[Guardian of faith]], and since this is my real $ deck, I need to keep it within budget.

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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But If I find a Teferi's protection at a good price I'll 100% add it in.

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Beside protection I'm also looking into locking in my first 3 turns which are and should always be:
T1- Mana dork
T2-Frodo
T3-Sam, eat the food, attack with Frodo to start the Ring.

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The only 1 mana dorks possible are in my sideboard. Utopia's Sprawl doesnt work weel enough since it needs to target a Forest. Not consistent enough

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There's also a couple TMNT cards I'm looking into but only 3 are in the sideboard for now.

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Side Note: After reading a very very detailed primer on Frodo and Sam with the same plan as me, the maths says that for the optimal way I can T1 ramp into T2 Frodo T3Sam+Food, I will need 13 1-mana ramp in the deck.

warped flare
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[[Argothian Wurm]] i want to play this in a deck...
okay i will look into the changes and get back

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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Done for now. I need to go buy 4 cards (In sideboard) and trade them with the 4 cards left in main deck

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I went with 11 T1 ramp in the end. I still have space for Wild Growth if it comes to it. I guess the main problem is not having Verdant Catacombs for better consistency

novel bramble
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I also have a [[Beseech the mirror]] that I won in a raffle that fits very well in the deck except for triple black pip

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Sorcery
Bargain (You may sacrifice an artifact, enchantment, or token as you cast this spell.)
Search your library for a card, exile it face down, then shuffle. If this spell was bargained, you may cast the exiled card without paying its mana cost if that spell's mana value is 4 or less. Put the exiled card into your hand if it wasn't cast this way.

novel bramble
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I'll trade a few cards for the Verdant catacombs, I still have my extra [[$Delney Streewise lookout]]

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[[$verdant catacombs]]

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warped flare
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[[Great Forest Druid]][[verdant catacombs]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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๐Ÿค”

novel bramble
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?

warped flare
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you know what you doing, unlike me XD

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going to work

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had to use the bot for the pic since idr card names well

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did you find all the 2 drop mana dork for auntie

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๐Ÿƒโ€โžก๏ธ fleed

novel bramble
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Pretty much, GFD is nice tho, 4 Toughness works fine, I'm wondering why I havent seen it in my scryfall researchs

novel bramble
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Welp, trading with a store is always dogshit. I womt do that again. But I got my cards

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And anyways I traded card I'll probably never use

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But for example they wanted to give me 35$ in store credit for Delney

warped flare
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i think i got an amazing jank for auntie and it may surprise you

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is $35in store bad?

novel bramble
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Considering the card is 70$ usually and its store credit not cash yeah. 50% is pretty lowball

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They take their prices from facetoface, and when they sell they sell 10-20% more than facetoface.

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Aka a scam

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They dont negociate that much either. I got my clever concealment from 25$ to 20$, and facetoface sells it for 16$

warped flare
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[[consuming frevor]] lowkey wanted to get more suspend for it but w/e

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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kinda a crazy phyrexian arena

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while its not a combat trick, 3 power toughness is also relevant

novel bramble
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Oh yeah I saw it. Nice card.

warped flare
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find it in my bulk piles with potential and never had a commander for it

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so if i see someone with an auntie deck they may end up getting it

novel bramble
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Fits well with a few cards too, like [[Soul immolation]]

zealous ridgeBOT
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One extra mana for 9 total damage

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OH YEAH btw, had some drama yesterday at my LGS

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remember the guy I told you about that always target my shit? I wasnt sure if it was pettiness or respect for my decks

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Well, it was pettiness. I was playing Frodo and Sam, and was last player. He Swords to plowshares my Frodo on my 3rd turn even though the 1st player ramped twice and had a 7-mana commander

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Welp I asked if tonight was gonna be another night of him targeting my shit all the time and he blew a casket lol

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Ragequit out of the game and left the Store. Said we wouldnt be playing together ever again. Good riddance!

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Anyway. I found a super interesting card that is super cheap too: [[Pillage the bog]]

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warped flare
zealous ridgeBOT
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i wanted a copy of [[monk gyatso]] but it got sniped at $4 now its so much more expensive and not availible at my LGS

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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and overall as a red player i got all the redirect effect, makes my [[chief kiss]] from jank to super staple

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No card found for โ€œchief kissโ€

warped flare
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oh and in return of the petty favour, nothing beats that single target curse "Hey you need a chill pill, i think you need to slow down, take a deep breath. Here let me help you a bit"
[[!curse of exhaustion]]

warped flare
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[[curse of echoes]] is pretty fun chaos too

zealous ridgeBOT
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if in universe set didnt do so bad and magic keep giving hyper exhaustion, i think this would be much more well known as a card. OTJ, MKM, DFT are some of those sets with super good power creep and interesting new mechanics but people dont pay as much attention to with the stupid lore and stuff

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[[$pillage the bog]]

zealous ridgeBOT
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the hardest part is just the timing of the plot, its nice to hold it for much later but its almost like a mini tutor. it does matter more for that landfall payoff

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i can troll so hard when someone easy to predict XD

novel bramble
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Even just casting it T2 is still 4 cards deep. Mid game goes into the 10s, that's pretty good for 2 mana.

warped flare
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yeah mini tutpr

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tutor*

novel bramble
warped flare
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i am not willing to look for 4 tho

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well, my random LGS power level is so inconsistent or low

novel bramble
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Would love for it to be 2R instead

warped flare
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with newbies

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where it is a dead card

novel bramble
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Better vs higher brackets yeah

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B3 is perfect for it

warped flare
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i have 3 games where i have no target for my $$ [[redirect lightning]] in my self pain deck

zealous ridgeBOT
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

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literally not a single spell that has a new single target was casted for me to counter

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one of which i did misplayed

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๐Ÿฅน the deck just about [[self destruct]] from beginning to the end

zealous ridgeBOT
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i just want to hurt myself

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[[kaboom!]] is so far the most fun payoff

zealous ridgeBOT
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yes i target everyone everytime so far

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18 damage on average

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trying to make my avg CMC 5 or higher

novel bramble
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Whats the win con lol. Dying?

novel bramble
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I'm gonna do an overhaul on Bello too now. I'm curious how strong I can make him without restrictions.

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And yes, Bedlam will be in it lol

warped flare
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btw, one of the reason why i was somewhat against the previous way you had your decks built was that

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aimming for power/optimization/new cards will reach a point of burning out very quickly

warped flare
novel bramble
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aggro is already a failed concept in commander

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Sadly most decks will trive more when built midrange and Bello doesnt like that

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Its not just about slapping strong cards into a deck anymore; I need to optimize the play patterns too

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Have a real plan of sorts

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yeah, i think thats the best thing i learnt from the group hug precon from a decade ago, a deck that is fun for the entire table is the hardest thing

novel bramble
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T1 ramp into T2 Bello into T3 4mana something is the basic Bello curve that works great for the first few turns, then you die when people get their board going and start slapping you in return

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I think maybe having a lot of damage-upon-entry cards to control the creatures would be best?

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Ramping is important, but if we can focus the ramp at 1 mana and 4 mana only it leaves space for interactions

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[[Prismatic undercurrents]] [[case of the locked]] and [[encroaching dragonstorm]] are great to ramp and still have a creature to hit shit with

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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Much better than having 2 mana dorks or 2 mana ramp spells imo

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For now. I havent checked sorceries much yet

warped flare
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yeah i would have go super hard on 4 drop ramp

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havent been a fan of 1 mana ramp dorks since Ivy with like an avg cmc of 1.3 or something

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if i am not elf ball, i go very light on low curve ramp

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because i like when my deck can run without the commander, most of the time

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which is perhaps why i havent tried to make a bello deck

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gtg will be back in couple hrs

novel bramble
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Well I see this similar to Henzie, where the deck also want to get him out T2 to start blitzing T3

warped flare
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yeah

novel bramble
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Welp, list is at 110 for now. The plan is pretty simple,
T1 Ramp
T2 Bello
T3 4-mana ramp
T4 Should have around 6 to 7 Mana available. I got a lot of plays from now on, probably better to keep a mana or two open for protection.

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Oh, if you take a look, disable the global tags. I condensed the tags into very simple categories instead of literally tagging everything the card does

warped flare
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will get to it soon as i can

warped flare
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idk if sad golem is needed [[$mana echo]] hard to justfy that price tag but its is a powerful card for sure

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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They are 4 mana ramp

warped flare
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ehh

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whats the plan with mana geyser

novel bramble
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Finisher. You get 15+ mana and cast a bunch of shit, kill someone or the entire board I guess?

warped flare
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i can see a buff card getting cut

novel bramble
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Similar to Jeska's Will

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k

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i can see [[gratyutiys violence]] going away

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No card found for โ€œgratyutiys violenceโ€

warped flare
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pardon my fat fingers

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i dislike chain reaction but its a easy wipe

novel bramble
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Yeah, not a big fan either

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but since its kinda one-sided its fine?

warped flare
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hmmm how to protect bello

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need another card?

novel bramble
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Had to cut like 4 so far.

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I think 10 is a good number to see one in a game

warped flare
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i mean when you cast chain reaction

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it kills bello then the board revert back to non creatures

novel bramble
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Yeah I know

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Might be worth to do sometimes

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and I have a lot of protection to use with it

warped flare
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i wish [[descent of the dragon]]] is worded differently

zealous ridgeBOT
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lol

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if not destroyed no dragon ๐Ÿฅฒ

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as a chaos player, my boardwipe involve

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BEHOLD [[Scrambleverse]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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my permanents are universal effects so it doesnt matter who has control for it to function

novel bramble
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then the triple damage one...

novel bramble
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its not as strong as a triple ofc but its 1 less mana

warped flare
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because you know you can have everything and you can only cut so many lands

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cant

novel bramble
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No lands will be cut

warped flare
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38 is bare minimum with Exploration and co in the deck

warped flare
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which is co

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case?

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yeah

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[[Prismatic undercurrents]] too

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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yeah that one i actually bought

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even without a bello deck its a nice one with card advantage and consistent land drops

novel bramble
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Lorwyn set was pretty good imo

warped flare
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yeah, not all powercreep

novel bramble
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You see the quality in non-UB sets

warped flare
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actual good mechanics

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for once

novel bramble
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[[Mirrorform]] gotta make something with this

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warped flare
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whats the worldly tutor main target

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i ahvent got a copy yet :c

novel bramble
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Maybe I'll overhaul my Inquisitor Greyfax deck with this inside

warped flare
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i want mirroform the most but not available

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do you own ragavan already its anoither $$ pricey one

novel bramble
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Depends on game but it can be anything beside solemn and the 1-mana dorks

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Hexavus can hit for 10 in the air, Myriad and drop as a 19/19 pretty easily

warped flare
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[[world war hulk]]] i guess card isnt out yet and it cares about creature spell, which the deck doesnt have too many

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Enchantment โ€” Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I โ€” The next red or green creature spell you cast this turn can be cast without paying its mana cost.
II โ€” Put three +1/+1 counters on target creature you control.
III โ€” Choose target creature you control. Until end of turn, double its power and toughness and it gains trample.

novel bramble
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Giggling can just kill everything once its monstruous and I got a couple protection spells to target him with

warped flare
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Its instant, just use it at end of turn

warped flare
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i guess its fine with open mana

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as long as you arent tapped out and have other things going on

novel bramble
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Only reason to be in tbh

warped flare
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i see, so its technically protection for bello

novel bramble
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Yeah, can't do much vs forced sacrifice effects

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burn the mana dorks until I'm forced to sac bello

warped flare
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want to cut tibalt trickery?

novel bramble
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No

warped flare
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XD

novel bramble
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Shit saves games

warped flare
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guess you jsut gotta cheat and play with 111 oversize deck

novel bramble
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Everything is good yeah

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The mana dorks are mathematically right, so hard to cut

warped flare
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as much as i want [[raiding schemes]] for myself

zealous ridgeBOT
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Enchantment
Each noncreature spell you cast has conspire. (As you cast a noncreature spell, you may tap two untapped creatures you control that share a color with it. When you do, copy it and you may choose new targets for the copy. A copy of a permanent spell becomes a token.)
"Keep enemies close . . . and elves closer." โ€”A tale of Auntie Wort

warped flare
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i think its kinda meh

novel bramble
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Not super hype for Ragavan tho, if I'm last player there's no guarantee I'll be able to hit someone T2

warped flare
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maybe its okay in this deck

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i would count it toward ramp but it isnt 4 mana

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dash out the monkey

novel bramble
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Wanted to try it. New cards and feels strong

warped flare
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i think it can do a lot

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but having to tap everything is rough

novel bramble
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Bello+something

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It is slow though, so Its not super high in my priorities to keep

warped flare
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i would probably cut either trickery or malfunction

novel bramble
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doesnt work for artifacts either

warped flare
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it say non creature spell

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so you should be able to cast artifact

novel bramble
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YOU WOULD CUT [[Ya viene el coco]]???

zealous ridgeBOT
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ohh

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shared colour